If the alleged "Minister for Jews" quote is confirmed to have originally come from the Corbyn camp, Labour can probably kiss goodbye to the London mayoralty.
Why?
I'm guessing many of the residents of Barnet and Camden won't be impressed by it.
I've got to say Roger this is all pretty grim. It seems like McDonnell is the man pulling Corbyn's strings.
But Corbyn- I mean going from the leadership contest to sing the Red Flag with a bunch of notrights in some London pub yesterday. I think that is likely to be the high point of his tenure.
My personal honeymoon with Corbyn has lasted...23 hours, so thanks Alex, I've flopped again.
Can anyone confirm this is true, appalling mistake if it is. Twitter Tom Fenton @TommyF124 3m3 minutes ago Corbyn has cancelled his BBC Radio 4 appearance for tomorrow.
Blanking the Beeb? Who does he think he is - Alex Ferguson?
Lucy Powell to Education, apparently. Nicky Morgan must be quaking.
Edit: schools 'n' hospitals = jobs for girls. I think a large section of JC's support are going to be rather disappointed by the #everydaysexism of the hard left.
If the alleged "Minister for Jews" quote is confirmed to have originally come from the Corbyn camp, Labour can probably kiss goodbye to the London mayoralty.
Why?
I'm guessing many of the residents of Barnet and Camden won't be impressed by it.
And on a more serious note, other minorities see I-am-just-against-israel-but-I-seem-to-make-antisemitic-remarks position as meaning I-am-a-really-big-friend-of-one-sub-section-of-one-minority. The one that the other minorities have.... er... doubts about.
Ask the average Thai muslim living in London. He will decode it for you....
@faisalislam: Confirmed: ex Miliband chief of staff Lucy Powell is the new shadow education secretary
The same Lucy Powell who wasn't going to serve under Corbyn? The same Lucy Powell who is utterly incompetent and not capable of stringing a coherent sentence together?
@faisalislam: Confirmed: ex Miliband chief of staff Lucy Powell is the new shadow education secretary
The same Lucy Powell who wasn't going to serve under Corbyn? The same Lucy Powell who is utterly incompetent and not capable of stringing a coherent sentence together?
@faisalislam: Confirmed: ex Miliband chief of staff Lucy Powell is the new shadow education secretary
Ok, that at least is the first one that I can say with utter seriousness is a terrible appointment. I assume she is really good at some aspects of her job given how useless she is at the media side of it, but the Education brief will surely involve getting in front of a camera quite a bit, and that is just not for her. One of the few politicians who matches how her opponents cariacature her.
Lucy Powell to Education, apparently. Nicky Morgan must be quaking.
Edit: schools 'n' hospitals = jobs for girls. I think a large section of JC's support are going to be rather disappointed by the #everydaysexism of the hard left.
Lucy Powell to Education, apparently. Nicky Morgan must be quaking.
Edit: schools 'n' hospitals = jobs for girls. I think a large section of JC's support are going to be rather disappointed by the #everydaysexism of the hard left.
The snub to women will be a genuine shock to many who voted for JC. And they will feel bitterly disappointed; betrayed even. But that's the hard left for you. It's very, very male. Almost all the senior Militant figures were blokes; almost all senior trade unionists; and so on.
Is Zoe Williams tweeting currently? She voted for this.
It doesn't look good to have most of the front pages showing Corbyn surrounded by beautiful women and then for him to do what he's done with the shadow cabinet.
People are saying Corbyn will be gone quickly, but how? Corbyn got in with 20% more votes than all the other candidates combined. He won by a landslide in every group. And there has been a surge in Corbynites joining the party since. This is what the Labour Party wants. Any MPs who are horrified are in the wrong party.
If the alleged "Minister for Jews" quote is confirmed to have originally come from the Corbyn camp, Labour can probably kiss goodbye to the London mayoralty.
Why?
I'm guessing many of the residents of Barnet and Camden won't be impressed by it.
So the mayoralty is kissed goodbye I see.
Care for an even money small stakes bet the alleged "Minister for Jews" quote isnt in the top 5 issues of London electors next May.
The most common comment I got canvassing was they are all the same.
Not now clear water between Tories and a more equal society is on offer while ever Corbyn remains.
Lets see if Labour are wiped out or gain ground as a result of the clear water.
PB Tories are 100% certain the public will not like Jezza policies.
I am not sure which way this will go.
Time will tell.
They might like individual policies, but you need have a narrative and win peoples trust that youll manage the economy well. The 'they are all the same' complaint is not new, in fact it is as old as political canvassing.
I am in no doubt that if you could go and canvass people in 1983 you would get a similar complaint.
I've got to say Roger this is all pretty grim. It seems like McDonnell is the man pulling Corbyn's strings.
But Corbyn- I mean going from the leadership contest to sing the Red Flag with a bunch of notrights in some London pub yesterday. I think that is likely to be the high point of his tenure.
My personal honeymoon with Corbyn has lasted...23 hours, so thanks Alex, I've flopped again.
What makes Labour different is they've all been appointed to the Shadow cabinet
The bloke's an unreconstructed 1980's Tribunite. This was always going to happen. His total lack of any kind of nous should surprise no-one. McDonnell as shadow Chancellor is a masterstroke of stupidity straight out of the hard left playbook. And women in the most important jobs? Don't be stupid; put the kettle on, luv.
@faisalislam: Confirmed: ex Miliband chief of staff Lucy Powell is the new shadow education secretary
The same Lucy Powell who wasn't going to serve under Corbyn? The same Lucy Powell who is utterly incompetent and not capable of stringing a coherent sentence together?
Splendid!
This is actually the most WTF moment so far.
I'm not sure who it reflects worse on - Powell or Corbyn. Whichever, it is bizarre and ridiculous.
@faisalislam: Confirmed: ex Miliband chief of staff Lucy Powell is the new shadow education secretary
The same Lucy Powell who wasn't going to serve under Corbyn? The same Lucy Powell who is utterly incompetent and not capable of stringing a coherent sentence together?
Splendid!
This is actually the most WTF moment so far.
I'm not sure who it reflects worse on - Powell or Corbyn. Whichever, it is bizarre and ridiculous.
It is ridiculous of course but the McDonnell appointment is the one that will destroy him.
Lucy Powell on Ed's Stone: “I don’t think anyone is suggesting that the fact that he’s carved them into stone means, you know, means that he will absolutely, you know, not going to break them or anything like that.”
Maybe Corbyn doesn't think he needs a shadow for defence.
Why ? He will just put out a statement Labour will not renew Trident. As regarding cuts, it is the Tories who are cutting Defence big time. Another 20%, I hear.
People are saying Corbyn will be gone quickly, but how? Corbyn got in with 20% more votes than all the other candidates combined. He won by a landslide in every group. And there has been a surge in Corbynites joining the party since. This is what the Labour Party wants. Any MPs who are horrified are in the wrong party.
Judging by this calamitous and hilarious Shadow Cabinet formation, the point is: politics sometimes doesn't need rules or regimens. You can just be so horrifically bad at your job that you know you have to quit, and there it is, as all your important colleagues despise you.
It is very possible, I'd say, that Corbyn could reach that stage quite soon. Perhaps before Christmas, certainly within 18 months, unless he shapes up dramatically. No Labour leader could - for instance - continue in the job if all his MPs were openly laughing at him in the Commons, and talking over his speeches.
I think you don't understand the persistent bloody mindedness of the old hard left. The people are wrong - they need to be abolished....
I don't really know McDonell other than the IRA comments, is he really that bad? It's hard to believe he could be worse than Corbyn after being told how bad Corbyn is supposed to be.
Lucy Powell to Education, apparently. Nicky Morgan must be quaking.
Edit: schools 'n' hospitals = jobs for girls. I think a large section of JC's support are going to be rather disappointed by the #everydaysexism of the hard left.
Apparently the Barrow MP is going to be Shadow Sec for DWP? wtf? Is Labour coming out in favour of Trident Renewal? (i think that might have explained the potential Bryant appt and why he is struggling to fill it)
Maybe Corbyn doesn't think he needs a shadow for defence.
Why ? He will just put out a statement Labour will not renew Trident. As regarding cuts, it is the Tories who are cutting Defence big time. Another 20%, I hear.
Pretty sure there is more to defence than just Trident. Jeez!
Anna Yearley @AnnaYearley Jeremy Corbyn's first PLP will be interesting. In my 12 yrs of attending them not sure I ever saw him at one.
Lucy Powell MP @LucyMPowell @AnnaYearley I have never, ever met or spoken to him. At PLP, in Chamber, in voting lobbies, tea rooms, library, anywhere ...
@faisalislam: Confirmed: ex Miliband chief of staff Lucy Powell is the new shadow education secretary
The same Lucy Powell who wasn't going to serve under Corbyn? The same Lucy Powell who is utterly incompetent and not capable of stringing a coherent sentence together?
Splendid!
This is actually the most WTF moment so far.
I'm not sure who it reflects worse on - Powell or Corbyn. Whichever, it is bizarre and ridiculous.
It is ridiculous of course but the McDonnell appointment is the one that will destroy him.
Yep. Absolutely poisonous. I've read several articles by insiders saying that Corbyn's association with McDonnell was the clinching factor. If Corbyn kept him on: implosion.
He hasn't just kept him on, he's made him Shadow Chancellor.
That's leadership. Corbyn hasn't bowed to the wets.
After canceling Marr, and now Today, what are the odds he wont appear at PMQs?
Cam must be pinching himself.
He could and should make a statement out of PMQs.
He should ask:
1. That the PM must give a straight answer to a straight question. No evasion.
2. The Mob culture must end from all sides.
The Tories and the Speaker will almost certainly refuse. Corbyn will say he will not participate then.
The idea that the shouting and jeering is hugely popular with the public is actually misplaced. The public also wants to hear a clear answer to a clear question.
The PMQ did not start with Magna Carta or 1832. It only started in the 50s. So no great tradition.
It's not the opinion polls; Corbyn's shadow cabinet prove that he is just incapable of doing politics. You just cannot alienate everyone and get away with it. Thatcher and Blair- both winners of 3 elections got knee capped- Corbyn has pointed the shot gun at his own head and is waiting for someone to pull the trigger.
@faisalislam: Confirmed: ex Miliband chief of staff Lucy Powell is the new shadow education secretary
The same Lucy Powell who wasn't going to serve under Corbyn? The same Lucy Powell who is utterly incompetent and not capable of stringing a coherent sentence together?
Splendid!
This is actually the most WTF moment so far.
I'm not sure who it reflects worse on - Powell or Corbyn. Whichever, it is bizarre and ridiculous.
It is ridiculous of course but the McDonnell appointment is the one that will destroy him.
Probably true. But then Corbyn is always going to fail because he's a socialist muppet with delusional ideas. He was always going to appoint the likes of McDonnell who were always going to take the job.
The difference with the Powell appointment is that it undermines him with his own support base.
He hasn't just got to get the non-voters to vote, he is going to lose loads of moderate Labour voters who will not vote or vote LD.. They are fecked which ever way you like to try and work the numbers.
Twitter George Eaton @georgeeaton 3m3 minutes ago As midnight approaches, still no shadow defence secretary. Clearly struggling to bridge gap between Corbyn and others.
After canceling Marr, and now Today, what are the odds he wont appear at PMQs?
Cam must be pinching himself.
He could and should make a statement out of PMQs.
He should ask:
1. That the PM must give a straight answer to a straight question. No evasion.
2. The Mob culture must end from all sides.
The Tories and the Speaker will almost certainly refuse. Corbyn will say he will not participate then.
The idea that the shouting and jeering is hugely popular with the public is actually misplaced. The public also wants to hear a clear answer to a clear question.
The PMQ did not start with Magna Carta or 1832. It only started in the 50s. So no great tradition.
If Corbyn doesn't want to hold the PM to account in the Chamber, so be it. Other MPs can have more time.
@faisalislam: Confirmed: ex Miliband chief of staff Lucy Powell is the new shadow education secretary
The same Lucy Powell who wasn't going to serve under Corbyn? The same Lucy Powell who is utterly incompetent and not capable of stringing a coherent sentence together?
Splendid!
This is actually the most WTF moment so far.
I'm not sure who it reflects worse on - Powell or Corbyn. Whichever, it is bizarre and ridiculous.
It is ridiculous of course but the McDonnell appointment is the one that will destroy him.
Yep. Absolutely poisonous. I've read several articles by insiders saying that Corbyn's association with McDonnell was the clinching factor. If Corbyn kept him on: implosion.
He hasn't just kept him on, he's made him Shadow Chancellor.
There is something of the irresistable force meeting the immovable object about all of Corbyn's leadership so far. I hadn't taken seriously the possibility of a split until now but his behaviour is so brazen that you could well understand MPs wondering why it's worth their while remaining with a party that cares neither for their efforts or for the public.
There is something of the irresistable force meeting the immovable object about all of Corbyn's leadership so far. I hadn't taken seriously the possibility of a split until now but his behaviour is so brazen that you could well understand MPs wondering why it's worth their while remaining with a party that cares neither for their efforts or for the public.
Twitter John Rentoul @JohnRentoul 1h1 hour ago It'll take journalists a few days, but once they've been through John McDonnell's back-catalogue, the Labour Party will be a smoking ruin.
How about a Minister for Beards and then a Minister for Merkins to keep a balance of the sexes?
Your narrow, cisgender biased views on the barbaric patriarchal prevention of female-identifying individuals maintaining facial hair is a disgrace.
Did we learn nothing from Conchita Wurst?
Clearly @TCPoliticalBetting needs to attend a substantial course of re-education Gender Respect and Consideration seminars
What's wrong with men wearing a merkin?
By enhancing their genital region and calling attention to it they are oppressing non-cisgendered male individuals with their patriarchal display of phallic dominance.
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That will be UKIP's pitch across the North of England.
It seems like McDonnell is the man pulling Corbyn's strings.
But Corbyn- I mean going from the leadership contest to sing the Red Flag with a bunch of notrights in some London pub yesterday. I think that is likely to be the high point of his tenure.
My personal honeymoon with Corbyn has lasted...23 hours, so thanks Alex, I've flopped again.
Suddenly so many of them seem so much more credibly plausible.
I think Corbyn will simply refuse to appear on any BBC medium whatever they do.
ITV, C4, LBC will probably be the ones he appears.
Edit: schools 'n' hospitals = jobs for girls. I think a large section of JC's support are going to be rather disappointed by the #everydaysexism of the hard left.
Ask the average Thai muslim living in London. He will decode it for you....
Corbyn would put Rambo as shadow defence secretary and you would still be shocked.
Arguably the most important appointment given NATO/Trident and he hasn't filled it yet!
Splendid!
If you polled 100 people now, how many out of that 100 would know who the leader of the Labour party was?
Lucy Powell?
Really?
http://news.sky.com/gallery/1551904/mondays-newspaper-front-pages
Care for an even money small stakes bet the alleged "Minister for Jews" quote isnt in the top 5 issues of London electors next May.
I think your knee may have jerked too jerkily!!
Ed Conway @EdConwaySky 2m2 minutes ago
New shadow chancellor seems to believe Labour should strip Bank of England of its independence http://www.labourbriefing.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=38&Itemid=55 …
louise martin @louisemartin25 18m18 minutes ago
Some v angry female labour MPs and members on my timeline.
re-educationGender Respect and Consideration seminarsI am in no doubt that if you could go and canvass people in 1983 you would get a similar complaint.
I am not saying Labour is going to win the next election. It wouldn't anyway whatever happens. Labour needs a swing of 10.5% to win.
Would JC do worse than the faceless alternatives - the Tory lites ? I don't know.
I do know that 33% of the electorate did not vote. Can he get 10% of those on board like the SNP did in Scotland ?
I'm not sure who it reflects worse on - Powell or Corbyn. Whichever, it is bizarre and ridiculous.
Perhaps the problem with Bryant is that he still thinks we should have some. If only for the employment.
This is similar to how Manchester Utd felt after the Munich Air Crash.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Official_Opposition_Shadow_Cabinet_(United_Kingdom)#Members_of_the_Shadow_Cabinet
“I don’t think anyone is suggesting that the fact that he’s carved them into stone means, you know, means that he will absolutely, you know, not going to break them or anything like that.”
Cam must be pinching himself.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06950lm
So 69 and 71 respectively in 2020.
Jeremy Corbyn's first PLP will be interesting. In my 12 yrs of attending them not sure I ever saw him at one.
Lucy Powell MP
@LucyMPowell
@AnnaYearley I have never, ever met or spoken to him. At PLP, in Chamber, in voting lobbies, tea rooms, library, anywhere ...
Not one of us could have predicted any of this.
Seems there won't be any by-election then.
He should ask:
1. That the PM must give a straight answer to a straight question. No evasion.
2. The Mob culture must end from all sides.
The Tories and the Speaker will almost certainly refuse. Corbyn will say he will not participate then.
The idea that the shouting and jeering is hugely popular with the public is actually misplaced. The public also wants to hear a clear answer to a clear question.
The PMQ did not start with Magna Carta or 1832. It only started in the 50s. So no great tradition.
@JamesLiamCook
James Liam Cook announced as new Shadow Defence Secretary
Who is he?
The difference with the Powell appointment is that it undermines him with his own support base.
It's not defensible in any way.
JCICIPM Vs JCWNBPM?
George Eaton @georgeeaton 3m3 minutes ago
As midnight approaches, still no shadow defence secretary. Clearly struggling to bridge gap between Corbyn and others.
There is only 1 loser there.
Edit... it is a joke.
John Rentoul @JohnRentoul 1h1 hour ago
It'll take journalists a few days, but once they've been through John McDonnell's back-catalogue, the Labour Party will be a smoking ruin.