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“The Labour party is a moral crusade or it is nothing” was Harold Wilson’s rallying cry to the Labour conference a little over fifty years ago (somewhat unusually for political quotations it seems clear that he did actually say it). Twelve years later he was declaring they were now a “natural party of government”.
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"But those groupings are revealing, if the Lib Dems under Clegg were a medium party that still tried to think and act like a major one then Corbyn is the part of Labour that holds on to a small party mentality."
Yes. Very interesting to see how Labour will withstand continued (often brutal) scrutiny with that kind of attitude, and how much message discipline there will be from the backbenches.
These tamed down equivalents are tricky though. For a long time I imagined that 'Berk' was a pretty tame insult, much the same as 'Chump' say. It turns out of course that it isn't.
As I've got older though I realise that 'strong' language gets you nowhere. 'Fool' is quite sufficient to condemn someone really. I think I'll have really grown up properly when I feel myself to be safe from that epithet. I suspect that will never happen.
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Those nice people at Bet365 are offering decimal odds of 3.75, i.e. 11/4 in old money, against this being the outcome.
However you look at it, this is a two horse race between Labour and the Conservatives and these odds therefore imply that Labour has a 26.7% chance and the Tories a 73.3% chance of winning the most seats. I see it as being a great deal closer what with "events" and all that, and have invested £72.73 on Labour to win a nice round £200 .... wish me luck!
As ever - DYOR.
Fair play on comments on the blandocracy, but for the moment that has still worked for the Tories, so I don't think the age is dead yet, and if Corbyn is unsuccessful, it will demonstrate why the blandocracy emerged - it's what we, the public, asked for and deserve.
PS - Looking back on the last threat, I had no idea Prat did not mean simply 'idiot' apparently.
There's a Pratt's Bottom in Kent, served by Knockholt train station, just inside the modern Greater London boundary.
Farage isn't snuggling up with terrorists nor does he want to give away the Falklands. He said somethings others were afraid too for a long time on immigration, but I can't see any else in common with Corbyn.
It's as empty a comparison as IDS which @HYUFD keeps making.
And AFAIC Corbyn's a minnow compared to Foot and it's a disservice to include them in the same sentence.
I know clothing's trivial really but peer pressure to conform is hard to resist, and the extent to which people bend to it shows how likely they are to compromise on other things. On this, I was a bit surprised to see Corbyn wearing a dark suit for his big day yesterday and took this to be a concessionary move that showed respect for his colleagues, party and protocol. After all, he could of worn the red Butlins blazer he wore to parliament for death of the Queen Mother.
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Merkel was bloody stupid in her initial announcement which will have exacerbated an already serious migration problem across Europe. – With this change of tack, what happens now to migrants that don’t qualify for refugee status? – I guess it’s Austria’s problem now…
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I came downstairs this Sunday morning, grabbed my cereal and turned on the TV. I watched a college football game on a local station last night.
Local news was going gangbusters - the lead story was a tree falling across a suburban street. Not a major road or a rat run, just a quiet suburban street. They had a reporter and camera crew on scene, and the news chopper was circling overhead. They had interviews with the crew chopping the tree up, the utility crew waiting to fix the power lines, residents who heard it fall. It was classic local news.
Then they went breathlessly to see the traffic situation, with graphics, traffic cams, traffic chopper, the whole deal. It's 8am on a Sunday - there is no traffic.
I've mentioned football and Sunday. This is the first sunday of the NFL season. The NBC game this evening is the Giants visiting America's Team. At about 8.20pm Carrie Underwood will sing the intro, and we'll all go nuts. It will sound something like this.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7ZrkIclBgQ
But of course nothing could match Hank Williams Jr and the craziness of Monday Night Football at its height. This is Giants at Dallas a few years back.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmQFz3WugQE
Moreover:
The report said it was likely that British security force personnel were involved but had insufficient evidence of higher-level involvement. However, the inquiry was hindered by the British government's refusal to release key documents.[4] The victims' families and others have continued to campaign for the British government to release these documents.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dublin_and_Monaghan_bombings
If Labour had elected a centrist leader the smaller parties would have had free reign to offer a much more nuanced critique of the Conservatives, with the SNP and Greens attacking them from the left on austerity, welfare etc. and UKIP from the anti establishment/right.
The days of the main opposition party hoovering up all the anti-government votes by default are probably over in this new era of multi party politics.
Any selective system puts into place a series of incentives and disincentives for certain behavior and characteristics. The House of Commons that exists today is, at least in part, our fault.
Someone else noted that we say we want politicians to be more consensual and to collaborate more, but when they do do that, we then punish them in the ballot box. Likewise, the development of a 'blandocracy' is *our* *own* *fault*. Maybe not as individuals, but as a collective group that elects according to the leader, or according to the rosette colour, or won't vote for one party because of FATCHA/the 70s/the coalitionbetrayal or whatever.
And the people already selected in and the people around them aren't stupid. As someone mentioned elsewhere, if PMQs would be more effective in a less aggressive style, someone would have worked it out and played it by now.
Anyway, in a cross-over with the strong language, I've found a Sergeant Wilson style "do you think that's wise?" often works absolute wonders.
(Of course the biggest NFL change now is how the promo packages make a point of avoiding the big hits they used to love).
(Go Chargers).
But then consider this delightful poem from 1942:
"She's a far better piece
Than the Viceroy's niece,
Who has also more fur on her prat."
In modern times there has certainly also been a "female genitalia" meaning, though the "backside" use is even longer established.
Note that "twat" also dates back for centuries ("they talk’t of his having a Cardinall’s Hat / they’d send him as soon an Old Nun’s Twat" from 1660). Very speculatively, I wonder if the genital sense of "prat" was originally a bowdlerisation, or simply a mistake, for "twat".
Farage, successful? Depends on the measure you choose to use.
It's a complete mess. http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/world/europe/article4555482.ece
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34239674
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/34237355
Reminds me a bit of one race, maybe China, a year or two ago. The circuit itself was ok for driving but the poor air quality meant practice had to be delayed because it was unsafe if a medical helicopter was required.
Of course though there's no joy in any of this. True equality for all is probably anarchy. I would certainly argue that I've earned the right to be in a better place that the stolen tracksuit wearing immigrant criminal. Unfortunately though I can't make such arguments for many, many good reasons. Those reasons of course hold us all back from throwing the whole lot of them on the returning banana boats (to coin a phrase).
Germany and the UK will embrace those who's views we can identify with, but there's a long way to go before I'd agree that someone should be shrouded from the world because of my beliefs.
Things will get very nasty in central Europe. If we're lucky we'll vote to get out just before that.
As an Episcopalian imitating liberation theology lefty pope Francis - I forgive you.
I make a point of not watching local TV news - that's why this morning was unusual.
More to the point it's Sunday Ticket today on DirecTV. It will lack something as Dallas is the NBC Sunday night game, seen by everyone. I can't decide whether to wear my Aikman or Emmitt shirt.
There's a tangible benefit to Mr. Corporeal's presence.
As you get older you desperately try to hold onto your youth by channeling Mr. T.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_irUw5PfHM
Obama has shown how hard it is to satisfy all the extreme identity groups that make up the left-wing fringe. They now are some of his harshest critics because following anything less than 110% of their agenda is betrayal to them.
Given the impossibility of providing all the groups that make up the fringe everything they want, Corbyn's support is bound to splinter at some point.
Still think Ed Miliband was the odd one out in the Three Teflon-slick Robots sketch. His brother would have fitted right in.
Yes, lots of people did lots of naughty things during the Troubles, the political wing of one side met with a Labour politician, now the leader of his party just after their paramilitary colleagues blew up the Grand Hotel in Brighton. Possibly you could stop your dancing now and enlighten us as to which loyalist paramilitary supporters met with a Tory politician, without a bunch of diversionary crap about the security services.
If I were Hungary, I'd be feeling really really p1ssed right now.
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.." then when the wretched refuse of your teeming shore arrived she decided it was all a bit of an embarrassment, thus inciting a lot more people to cross the Med, and hence a lot more people to drown in that attempt, and a lot more people to end up sitting on the German border causing severe inconvenience to their neighbours, not that such has caused Germany any great pause before.
I think Tom Watson without doubt is Labour's new kingmaker. I cannot imagine anyone who has such an influence in a major political party without being leader. His power base is enhanced because he has no aspirations for the main prize.
But it's the Germans that will spark this. More specifically the German middle class. Merkel is about to become the most spectacular political failure ever. 'Forever Change' the country - I think this needs a greater mandate than she has.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Oa04A8dNeI
Posted in order to get the horrible sound out of my ears:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDIuApfVxBg
PS - he's very effusive about MacDonnell, isn't he? Nailed on for at least some big job or other, I would think, even if not the SCE.
2015 = 82.5m and in 2045 is supposed to be 74.5m ?
http://populationpyramid.net/germany/2045/
Worse, with people living longer, the working age population will fall even more drastically.
Who will pay the taxes ?
UK, on the other hand goes from 2015 = 63.8 to 2045 = 72.1
It is this switch which projects that the UK will have a larger GDP than Germany in 2050 !
Should Merkel just sit there and wring her hands ?
Where did that moral high ground go?
Where Germany leads others follow....
Clever politics (which was what Wilson was about) - because it implied other political parties were not about 'morals'.
I read Blunkett is saying, 'Give Corbyn time to adapt' - again clever politics since it is implying 'give Corbyn time to abandon his principles'.
Mr. Floater, indeed. Schengen was so vital a few days ago Germany used it for emotional blackmail to try and force other countries to take migrants, now it's an optional extra that can be suspended by Germany whenever it likes.
With winter coming, there's a chance the flow of migrants will decline. Or, they'll think the drawbridge is being pulled up and rush to clamber onto it.