It's probably worth putting a small bet on Cooper at this stage. She won't win but there's bound to be a moment during the counting process where a rumour emerges saying she's doing better than expected which affects the odds.
What's the betting on a Tory 50% poll in this parliament? One can dream.....
I have a feeling we'll all be disappointed at how relatively 'normal' polling is, with Tory leads for a bit, Labour then getting decent (but not necessarily high enough for an opposition) leads, which if are not decent enough will lead possibly to an ousting.
DUP leaving finance and personnel minister Arlene Foster in executive as gatekeeper to stop crazy-lefty policies. She is staying on as temporary first minister to keep things going.
Anyone wonder if the politicians of NI are upset that their usual level of political nincompoopery isn't getting attention because of Corbynmania, so they've decided to up their game?
I heard that Baghdad has accepted Germany's kind offer of citizenship and the population are on their way. May be far fetched but what on earth has Merkel done and at what point will she be forced to retract and how can she retract.
Well, that depends how many have already upped sticks and are on their way.
1 million? 10 million?
'Ach, but you kant come here, I only zaid 800,000'
Merkel's probably made one of the worst decisions and announcements by a European politician, ever.
I think "Let's split Poland between us; nobody will do anything about it" is also a contender.
Also by a German as it happens. Arrogance is a feature, not a bug.
Also, "Let's violate Belgian neutrality, no one will notice"...
Anyone wonder if the politicians of NI are upset that their usual level of political nincompoopery isn't getting attention because of Corbynmania, so they've decided to up their game?
Northern Ireland actually has a province-wide CLP.
The situation in NI is very disturbing,more so for anyone who remembers "The Troubles".One of the reasons Labour supporting people,including me,need to stop using the term "Blairite" as an insult, is because it negates any political capital Labour can gain from wholeheartedly celebrating the massive achievements of the Blair government,particularly the 1st period from 1997-2001,including the social liberalism of the Human Rights Act and FOI Act but the jewel in the crown was the NI peace process which seems now to be under threat. The next Labour leader's appointment of a shadow NI secretary is thus perhaps the most pressing appointment.It must be someone who will be seen to be fair to all in NI and Jeremy Corbyn has work to do to gain the trust of unionists.There also remains the idea floated by Andy Burnham that Labour changes policy,organises and puts up candidates in NI.This makes sense if UK Labour decides to support a federal structure. I suggest Keir Starmer for the role and I hope to see him in the shadow cabinet and I second TSE's view that he is value at 20-1 for the next Labour leader.He is a man relatively "baggage free". I wonder if Jeremy does succession planning?
The situation in NI is very disturbing,more so for anyone who remembers "The Troubles".One of the reasons Labour supporting people,including me,need to stop using the term "Blairite" as an insult, is because it negates any political capital Labour can gain from wholeheartedly celebrating the massive achievements of the Blair government,particularly the 1st period from 1997-2001,including the social liberalism of the Human Rights Act and FOI Act but the jewel in the crown was the NI peace process which seems now to be under threat. The next Labour leader's appointment of a shadow NI secretary is thus perhaps the most pressing appointment.It must be someone who will be seen to be fair to all in NI and Jeremy Corbyn has work to do to gain the trust of unionists.There also remains the idea floated by Andy Burnham that Labour changes policy,organises and puts up candidates in NI.This makes sense if UK Labour decides to support a federal structure. I suggest Keir Starmer for the role and I hope to see him in the shadow cabinet and I second TSE's view that he is value at 20-1 for the next Labour leader.He is a man relatively "baggage free". I wonder if Jeremy does succession planning?
I heard that Baghdad has accepted Germany's kind offer of citizenship and the population are on their way. May be far fetched but what on earth has Merkel done and at what point will she be forced to retract and how can she retract.
Well, that depends how many have already upped sticks and are on their way.
1 million? 10 million?
'Ach, but you kant come here, I only zaid 800,000'
Merkel's probably made one of the worst decisions and announcements by a European politician, ever.
I think "Let's split Poland between us; nobody will do anything about it" is also a contender.
Also by a German as it happens. Arrogance is a feature, not a bug.
Also, "Let's violate Belgian neutrality, no one will notice"...
It's probably worth putting a small bet on Cooper at this stage. She won't win but there's bound to be a moment during the counting process where a rumour emerges saying she's doing better than expected which affects the odds.
I will be betting on Burnham tonight now his odds are at their longest. If he gets to the final two he has a better chance of winning than Cooper as more of his voters have preferenced Corbyn than Cooper voters. Corbyn of course remains favourite
I heard that Baghdad has accepted Germany's kind offer of citizenship and the population are on their way. May be far fetched but what on earth has Merkel done and at what point will she be forced to retract and how can she retract.
Well, that depends how many have already upped sticks and are on their way.
1 million? 10 million?
'Ach, but you kant come here, I only zaid 800,000'
Merkel's probably made one of the worst decisions and announcements by a European politician, ever.
I think "Let's split Poland between us; nobody will do anything about it" is also a contender.
Also by a German as it happens. Arrogance is a feature, not a bug.
Also, "Let's violate Belgian neutrality, no one will notice"...
Belgian neutrality - it's up there with Norwegian charisma in terms of meaningless phrases.
I heard that Baghdad has accepted Germany's kind offer of citizenship and the population are on their way. May be far fetched but what on earth has Merkel done and at what point will she be forced to retract and how can she retract.
Well, that depends how many have already upped sticks and are on their way.
1 million? 10 million?
'Ach, but you kant come here, I only zaid 800,000'
Merkel's probably made one of the worst decisions and announcements by a European politician, ever.
I think "Let's split Poland between us; nobody will do anything about it" is also a contender.
Also by a German as it happens. Arrogance is a feature, not a bug.
Surely Uncle Joe's bargain was one of the best in history. He agreed to just take half of Poland and ended up with not only all of Poland but all of Eastern Europe and half of Germany having massacred nearly all the intelligentsia capable of inspiring original thought along the way. As they say, "Result!"
I heard that Baghdad has accepted Germany's kind offer of citizenship and the population are on their way. May be far fetched but what on earth has Merkel done and at what point will she be forced to retract and how can she retract.
Well, that depends how many have already upped sticks and are on their way.
1 million? 10 million?
'Ach, but you kant come here, I only zaid 800,000'
Merkel's probably made one of the worst decisions and announcements by a European politician, ever.
I think "Let's split Poland between us; nobody will do anything about it" is also a contender.
Also by a German as it happens. Arrogance is a feature, not a bug.
Also, "Let's violate Belgian neutrality, no one will notice"...
Belgian neutrality - it's up there with Norwegian charisma in terms of meaningless phrases.
I heard that Baghdad has accepted Germany's kind offer of citizenship and the population are on their way. May be far fetched but what on earth has Merkel done and at what point will she be forced to retract and how can she retract.
Well, that depends how many have already upped sticks and are on their way.
1 million? 10 million?
'Ach, but you kant come here, I only zaid 800,000'
Merkel's probably made one of the worst decisions and announcements by a European politician, ever.
I think "Let's split Poland between us; nobody will do anything about it" is also a contender.
Also by a German as it happens. Arrogance is a feature, not a bug.
Also, "Let's violate Belgian neutrality, no one will notice"...
To be fair they were right about that both times.
Britain declared war in 1914 because of that violation:
The situation in NI is very disturbing,more so for anyone who remembers "The Troubles".One of the reasons Labour supporting people,including me,need to stop using the term "Blairite" as an insult, is because it negates any political capital Labour can gain from wholeheartedly celebrating the massive achievements of the Blair government,particularly the 1st period from 1997-2001,including the social liberalism of the Human Rights Act and FOI Act but the jewel in the crown was the NI peace process which seems now to be under threat. The next Labour leader's appointment of a shadow NI secretary is thus perhaps the most pressing appointment.It must be someone who will be seen to be fair to all in NI and Jeremy Corbyn has work to do to gain the trust of unionists.There also remains the idea floated by Andy Burnham that Labour changes policy,organises and puts up candidates in NI.This makes sense if UK Labour decides to support a federal structure. I suggest Keir Starmer for the role and I hope to see him in the shadow cabinet and I second TSE's view that he is value at 20-1 for the next Labour leader.He is a man relatively "baggage free". I wonder if Jeremy does succession planning?
Bollocks. NI was John Major.
The second, permanent IRA ceasefire happened after Sir John was defeated.
The situation in NI is very disturbing,more so for anyone who remembers "The Troubles".One of the reasons Labour supporting people,including me,need to stop using the term "Blairite" as an insult, is because it negates any political capital Labour can gain from wholeheartedly celebrating the massive achievements of the Blair government,particularly the 1st period from 1997-2001,including the social liberalism of the Human Rights Act and FOI Act but the jewel in the crown was the NI peace process which seems now to be under threat. The next Labour leader's appointment of a shadow NI secretary is thus perhaps the most pressing appointment.It must be someone who will be seen to be fair to all in NI and Jeremy Corbyn has work to do to gain the trust of unionists.There also remains the idea floated by Andy Burnham that Labour changes policy,organises and puts up candidates in NI.This makes sense if UK Labour decides to support a federal structure. I suggest Keir Starmer for the role and I hope to see him in the shadow cabinet and I second TSE's view that he is value at 20-1 for the next Labour leader.He is a man relatively "baggage free". I wonder if Jeremy does succession planning?
Bollocks. NI was John Major.
The second, permanent IRA ceasefire happened after Sir John was defeated.
I think his point was that the process didn't start on May 2nd 1997, and a lot of groundwork was required to get that far.
I heard that Baghdad has accepted Germany's kind offer of citizenship and the population are on their way. May be far fetched but what on earth has Merkel done and at what point will she be forced to retract and how can she retract.
Well, that depends how many have already upped sticks and are on their way.
1 million? 10 million?
'Ach, but you kant come here, I only zaid 800,000'
Merkel's probably made one of the worst decisions and announcements by a European politician, ever.
I think "Let's split Poland between us; nobody will do anything about it" is also a contender.
Also by a German as it happens. Arrogance is a feature, not a bug.
Surely Uncle Joe's bargain was one of the best in history. He agreed to just take half of Poland and ended up with not only all of Poland but all of Eastern Europe and half of Germany having massacred nearly all the intelligentsia capable of inspiring original thought along the way. As they say, "Result!"
Also by pushing the Polish frontier back two hundred miles or so, he bought some time during the subsequent German invasion in 1941.
I heard that Baghdad has accepted Germany's kind offer of citizenship and the population are on their way. May be far fetched but what on earth has Merkel done and at what point will she be forced to retract and how can she retract.
Well, that depends how many have already upped sticks and are on their way.
1 million? 10 million?
'Ach, but you kant come here, I only zaid 800,000'
Merkel's probably made one of the worst decisions and announcements by a European politician, ever.
I think "Let's split Poland between us; nobody will do anything about it" is also a contender.
Also by a German as it happens. Arrogance is a feature, not a bug.
Also, "Let's violate Belgian neutrality, no one will notice"...
Belgian neutrality - it's up there with Norwegian charisma in terms of meaningless phrases.
I heard that Baghdad has accepted Germany's kind offer of citizenship and the population are on their way. May be far fetched but what on earth has Merkel done and at what point will she be forced to retract and how can she retract.
Well, that depends how many have already upped sticks and are on their way.
1 million? 10 million?
'Ach, but you kant come here, I only zaid 800,000'
Merkel's probably made one of the worst decisions and announcements by a European politician, ever.
I think "Let's split Poland between us; nobody will do anything about it" is also a contender.
Also by a German as it happens. Arrogance is a feature, not a bug.
Also, "Let's violate Belgian neutrality, no one will notice"...
To be fair they were right about that both times.
Britain declared war in 1914 because of that violation:
The situation in NI is very disturbing,more so for anyone who remembers "The Troubles".One of the reasons Labour supporting people,including me,need to stop using the term "Blairite" as an insult, is because it negates any political capital Labour can gain from wholeheartedly celebrating the massive achievements of the Blair government,particularly the 1st period from 1997-2001,including the social liberalism of the Human Rights Act and FOI Act but the jewel in the crown was the NI peace process which seems now to be under threat. The next Labour leader's appointment of a shadow NI secretary is thus perhaps the most pressing appointment.It must be someone who will be seen to be fair to all in NI and Jeremy Corbyn has work to do to gain the trust of unionists.There also remains the idea floated by Andy Burnham that Labour changes policy,organises and puts up candidates in NI.This makes sense if UK Labour decides to support a federal structure. I suggest Keir Starmer for the role and I hope to see him in the shadow cabinet and I second TSE's view that he is value at 20-1 for the next Labour leader.He is a man relatively "baggage free". I wonder if Jeremy does succession planning?
Bollocks. NI was John Major.
The second, permanent IRA ceasefire happened after Sir John was defeated.
Last Tuesday also happened after Sir John was defeated. Unclear about your point, if any.
The man just has this visceral hatred of America doesn't he?
Standard attitude for the loony left. 'Great Satan' don't you know. The USA is a successful capitalist bastion against communism. Its obvious why the nutjob left hate it.
I heard that Baghdad has accepted Germany's kind offer of citizenship and the population are on their way. May be far fetched but what on earth has Merkel done and at what point will she be forced to retract and how can she retract.
Well, that depends how many have already upped sticks and are on their way.
1 million? 10 million?
'Ach, but you kant come here, I only zaid 800,000'
Merkel's probably made one of the worst decisions and announcements by a European politician, ever.
I think "Let's split Poland between us; nobody will do anything about it" is also a contender.
Also by a German as it happens. Arrogance is a feature, not a bug.
Also, "Let's violate Belgian neutrality, no one will notice"...
Belgian neutrality - it's up there with Norwegian charisma in terms of meaningless phrases.
I heard that Baghdad has accepted Germany's kind offer of citizenship and the population are on their way. May be far fetched but what on earth has Merkel done and at what point will she be forced to retract and how can she retract.
Well, that depends how many have already upped sticks and are on their way.
1 million? 10 million?
'Ach, but you kant come here, I only zaid 800,000'
Merkel's probably made one of the worst decisions and announcements by a European politician, ever.
I think "Let's split Poland between us; nobody will do anything about it" is also a contender.
Also by a German as it happens. Arrogance is a feature, not a bug.
Also, "Let's violate Belgian neutrality, no one will notice"...
To be fair they were right about that both times.
Britain declared war in 1914 because of that violation:
I heard that Baghdad has accepted Germany's kind offer of citizenship and the population are on their way. May be far fetched but what on earth has Merkel done and at what point will she be forced to retract and how can she retract.
Well, that depends how many have already upped sticks and are on their way.
1 million? 10 million?
'Ach, but you kant come here, I only zaid 800,000'
Merkel's probably made one of the worst decisions and announcements by a European politician, ever.
I think "Let's split Poland between us; nobody will do anything about it" is also a contender.
Also by a German as it happens. Arrogance is a feature, not a bug.
Also, "Let's violate Belgian neutrality, no one will notice"...
Belgian neutrality - it's up there with Norwegian charisma in terms of meaningless phrases.
I heard that Baghdad has accepted Germany's kind offer of citizenship and the population are on their way. May be far fetched but what on earth has Merkel done and at what point will she be forced to retract and how can she retract.
Well, that depends how many have already upped sticks and are on their way.
1 million? 10 million?
'Ach, but you kant come here, I only zaid 800,000'
Merkel's probably made one of the worst decisions and announcements by a European politician, ever.
I think "Let's split Poland between us; nobody will do anything about it" is also a contender.
Also by a German as it happens. Arrogance is a feature, not a bug.
Also, "Let's violate Belgian neutrality, no one will notice"...
To be fair they were right about that both times.
Britain declared war in 1914 because of that violation:
What's the betting on a Tory 50% poll in this parliament? One can dream.....
What's the betting on a poll with a Conservative vote share BELOW 30% ?
A mathematical impossibility
How so ? Perfectly possible to imagine a severe midterm slump in popularity and problems relating to the EU referendum etc.
I'd have thought it more likely than the Tories getting to 50% - it requires plenty of things to go wrong to get to sub 30%, which might appear unlikely right now, but no matter how many things go right there are just too many people who will put anything other than Tory for them to get to 50% I think.
That must be slightly annoying to Tories, but I guess they cannot get greedy.
The man just has this visceral hatred of America doesn't he?
Corbyn, if he ever became PM, would rather have special relationships with Putin's Russia, Palestine and Cuba than the USA and Israel with the possible exception of a Sanders presidency
The situation in NI is very disturbing,more so for anyone who remembers "The Troubles".One of the reasons Labour supporting people,including me,need to stop using the term "Blairite" as an insult, is because it negates any political capital Labour can gain from wholeheartedly celebrating the massive achievements of the Blair government,particularly the 1st period from 1997-2001,including the social liberalism of the Human Rights Act and FOI Act but the jewel in the crown was the NI peace process which seems now to be under threat. The next Labour leader's appointment of a shadow NI secretary is thus perhaps the most pressing appointment.It must be someone who will be seen to be fair to all in NI and Jeremy Corbyn has work to do to gain the trust of unionists.There also remains the idea floated by Andy Burnham that Labour changes policy,organises and puts up candidates in NI.This makes sense if UK Labour decides to support a federal structure. I suggest Keir Starmer for the role and I hope to see him in the shadow cabinet and I second TSE's view that he is value at 20-1 for the next Labour leader.He is a man relatively "baggage free". I wonder if Jeremy does succession planning?
Bollocks. NI was John Major.
The second, permanent IRA ceasefire happened after Sir John was defeated.
Last Tuesday also happened after Sir John was defeated. Unclear about your point, if any.
Blair won the Election, IRA saw an end to evil Tory rule. Decided to do business with St. Tone.
TSE - you appear to have backed Cooper in the competition and yet predicted JC getting over 50%.
Have I missed something?
Auto correct gone mammary glands up I think
You wanted to vote Corbyn, but after two letters, the auto-correct assumed that only a fuck-wit would want to vote that way, so....
My phone is used to me regularly typing "Agent Cooper"
She's dead. Wrapped in plastic.
Yay someone got the reference. My friend really regrets becoming a field agent for a utility and having the surname Cooper.
Does he/she have a partner called Dianne?
No, but she does have a dog called Dale.
Ha!
Does she like cherry pie? I mean really? I take it this doesn't get old for you, but same can't be said for her?
Any more news about Frost/Lynch wrt a new series yet? Last I hear, Lynch was back on board...
My surname is one that leads to many jokes.
The frustrating thing is not the jokes, but that the jokers believe that they are being witty and original.
Believe me, you are not! I have heard every possible combination of joke on the topic.
Could be worse, my friend has the name A Hooker.
Everyone thinks they are the first person to tell her "I'm spending the next few hours with A Hooker"
I participated in a investigation after a ship hit a dock. The captain was Captain Buckle, the investigating officer was Captain Basham and the class surveyor was Captain Dent
They had immense pleasure in signing off the final damage report as
I heard that Baghdad has accepted Germany's kind offer of citizenship and the population are on their way. May be far fetched but what on earth has Merkel done and at what point will she be forced to retract and how can she retract.
Well, that depends how many have already upped sticks and are on their way.
1 million? 10 million?
'Ach, but you kant come here, I only zaid 800,000'
Merkel's probably made one of the worst decisions and announcements by a European politician, ever.
I think "Let's split Poland between us; nobody will do anything about it" is also a contender.
Also by a German as it happens. Arrogance is a feature, not a bug.
Also, "Let's violate Belgian neutrality, no one will notice"...
Belgian neutrality - it's up there with Norwegian charisma in terms of meaningless phrases.
I heard that Baghdad has accepted Germany's kind offer of citizenship and the population are on their way. May be far fetched but what on earth has Merkel done and at what point will she be forced to retract and how can she retract.
Well, that depends how many have already upped sticks and are on their way.
1 million? 10 million?
'Ach, but you kant come here, I only zaid 800,000'
Merkel's probably made one of the worst decisions and announcements by a European politician, ever.
I think "Let's split Poland between us; nobody will do anything about it" is also a contender.
Also by a German as it happens. Arrogance is a feature, not a bug.
Also, "Let's violate Belgian neutrality, no one will notice"...
To be fair they were right about that both times.
Britain declared war in 1914 because of that violation:
The situation in NI is very disturbing,more so for anyone who remembers "The Troubles".One of the reasons Labour supporting people,including me,need to stop using the term "Blairite" as an insult, is because it negates any political capital Labour can gain from wholeheartedly celebrating the massive achievements of the Blair government,particularly the 1st period from 1997-2001,including the social liberalism of the Human Rights Act and FOI Act but the jewel in the crown was the NI peace process which seems now to be under threat. The next Labour leader's appointment of a shadow NI secretary is thus perhaps the most pressing appointment.It must be someone who will be seen to be fair to all in NI and Jeremy Corbyn has work to do to gain the trust of unionists.There also remains the idea floated by Andy Burnham that Labour changes policy,organises and puts up candidates in NI.This makes sense if UK Labour decides to support a federal structure. I suggest Keir Starmer for the role and I hope to see him in the shadow cabinet and I second TSE's view that he is value at 20-1 for the next Labour leader.He is a man relatively "baggage free". I wonder if Jeremy does succession planning?
Bollocks. NI was John Major.
The second, permanent IRA ceasefire happened after Sir John was defeated.
Last Tuesday also happened after Sir John was defeated. Unclear about your point, if any.
Blair won the Election, IRA saw an end to evil Tory rule. Decided to do business with St. Tone.
Just been having a debate on Twitter with an intelligent europhile who hadn't worked out why mass Syrian/3rd World migration into Sweden/Germany was a problem for his side in the euroref.
He hadn't worked out that Free Movement means they can come here, in time.
If that's the calibre of europhile thinking the INNERS have a big problem.
This seems to be one of those occasions where the more "intelligent" someone apparently is the more stupid they are when it comes to noticing the obvious.
Intelligence does not equal being correct or more likely to reach the right conclusion, only that you have a very good innate ability to learn. But that doesn't mean it's consistently exercised.
In Sweden, before the war, the educated elites though euthanasia was a jolly good thing.
Intelligent people tend to think they have no prejudices when, in fact, they do, it's just they are more sophisticated in their explanation of those so they end up both sounding like they are rationalised positions and, through that, convincing themselves that they are too.
What's the betting on a Tory 50% poll in this parliament? One can dream.....
What's the betting on a poll with a Conservative vote share BELOW 30% ?
A mathematical impossibility
How so ? Perfectly possible to imagine a severe midterm slump in popularity and problems relating to the EU referendum etc.
I'd have thought it more likely than the Tories getting to 50% - it requires plenty of things to go wrong to get to sub 30%, which might appear unlikely right now, but no matter how many things go right there are just too many people who will put anything other than Tory for them to get to 50% I think.
That must be slightly annoying to Tories, but I guess they cannot get greedy.
Fine. I'll settle for 45%. A modest improvement over the current position.
Yes, you've cleverly spotted that the plan, of course, involved the ostrich being hungry. Which turned out to be a bad guess.
Captain Blackadder: Yes, that's right. You see, there was a tiny flaw in the plan. Private Baldrick: What was that, sir? Captain Blackadder: It was bollocks. Private Baldrick: So the poor old ostrich died for nothing then.
The man just has this visceral hatred of America doesn't he?
Corbyn, if he ever became PM, would rather have special relationships with Putin's Russia, Palestine and Cuba than the USA and Israel with the possible exception of a Sanders presidency
Bernie's brother Larry Sanders actually contested Oxford West & Abingdon at GE2015 for the Green Party. He only came fifth, however.
The situation in NI is very disturbing,more so for anyone who remembers "The Troubles".One of the reasons Labour supporting people,including me,need to stop using the term "Blairite" as an insult, is because it negates any political capital Labour can gain from wholeheartedly celebrating the massive achievements of the Blair government,particularly the 1st period from 1997-2001,including the social liberalism of the Human Rights Act and FOI Act but the jewel in the crown was the NI peace process which seems now to be under threat. The next Labour leader's appointment of a shadow NI secretary is thus perhaps the most pressing appointment.It must be someone who will be seen to be fair to all in NI and Jeremy Corbyn has work to do to gain the trust of unionists.There also remains the idea floated by Andy Burnham that Labour changes policy,organises and puts up candidates in NI.This makes sense if UK Labour decides to support a federal structure. I suggest Keir Starmer for the role and I hope to see him in the shadow cabinet and I second TSE's view that he is value at 20-1 for the next Labour leader.He is a man relatively "baggage free". I wonder if Jeremy does succession planning?
Bollocks. NI was John Major.
The second, permanent IRA ceasefire happened after Sir John was defeated.
Last Tuesday also happened after Sir John was defeated. Unclear about your point, if any.
Blair won the Election, IRA saw an end to evil Tory rule. Decided to do business with St. Tone.
I'd love to live inside your head for half an hour
The situation in NI is very disturbing,more so for anyone who remembers "The Troubles".One of the reasons Labour supporting people,including me,need to stop using the term "Blairite" as an insult, is because it negates any political capital Labour can gain from wholeheartedly celebrating the massive achievements of the Blair government,particularly the 1st period from 1997-2001,including the social liberalism of the Human Rights Act and FOI Act but the jewel in the crown was the NI peace process which seems now to be under threat. The next Labour leader's appointment of a shadow NI secretary is thus perhaps the most pressing appointment.It must be someone who will be seen to be fair to all in NI and Jeremy Corbyn has work to do to gain the trust of unionists.There also remains the idea floated by Andy Burnham that Labour changes policy,organises and puts up candidates in NI.This makes sense if UK Labour decides to support a federal structure. I suggest Keir Starmer for the role and I hope to see him in the shadow cabinet and I second TSE's view that he is value at 20-1 for the next Labour leader.He is a man relatively "baggage free". I wonder if Jeremy does succession planning?
Bollocks. NI was John Major.
The second, permanent IRA ceasefire happened after Sir John was defeated.
Last Tuesday also happened after Sir John was defeated. Unclear about your point, if any.
Blair won the Election, IRA saw an end to evil Tory rule. Decided to do business with St. Tone.
I'd love to live inside your head for half an hour
My apologies - should have said 'an end to "evil" Tory rule' - oops!
TSE - you appear to have backed Cooper in the competition and yet predicted JC getting over 50%.
Have I missed something?
Auto correct gone mammary glands up I think
You wanted to vote Corbyn, but after two letters, the auto-correct assumed that only a fuck-wit would want to vote that way, so....
My phone is used to me regularly typing "Agent Cooper"
She's dead. Wrapped in plastic.
Yay someone got the reference. My friend really regrets becoming a field agent for a utility and having the surname Cooper.
Does he/she have a partner called Dianne?
No, but she does have a dog called Dale.
Ha!
Does she like cherry pie? I mean really? I take it this doesn't get old for you, but same can't be said for her?
Any more news about Frost/Lynch wrt a new series yet? Last I hear, Lynch was back on board...
My surname is one that leads to many jokes.
The frustrating thing is not the jokes, but that the jokers believe that they are being witty and original.
Believe me, you are not! I have heard every possible combination of joke on the topic.
Could be worse, my friend has the name A Hooker.
Everyone thinks they are the first person to tell her "I'm spending the next few hours with A Hooker"
I participated in a investigation after a ship hit a dock. The captain was Captain Buckle, the investigating officer was Captain Basham and the class surveyor was Captain Dent
They had immense pleasure in signing off the final damage report as
Captains Basham, Buckle and Dent
Our chief witness in the first case I was ever involved in during my articles rejoiced in the name of Randy Kruk....
TSE - you appear to have backed Cooper in the competition and yet predicted JC getting over 50%.
Have I missed something?
Auto correct gone mammary glands up I think
You wanted to vote Corbyn, but after two letters, the auto-correct assumed that only a fuck-wit would want to vote that way, so....
My phone is used to me regularly typing "Agent Cooper"
She's dead. Wrapped in plastic.
Yay someone got the reference. My friend really regrets becoming a field agent for a utility and having the surname Cooper.
Does he/she have a partner called Dianne?
No, but she does have a dog called Dale.
Ha!
Does she like cherry pie? I mean really? I take it this doesn't get old for you, but same can't be said for her?
Any more news about Frost/Lynch wrt a new series yet? Last I hear, Lynch was back on board...
My surname is one that leads to many jokes.
The frustrating thing is not the jokes, but that the jokers believe that they are being witty and original.
Believe me, you are not! I have heard every possible combination of joke on the topic.
Could be worse, my friend has the name A Hooker.
Everyone thinks they are the first person to tell her "I'm spending the next few hours with A Hooker"
I participated in a investigation after a ship hit a dock. The captain was Captain Buckle, the investigating officer was Captain Basham and the class surveyor was Captain Dent
They had immense pleasure in signing off the final damage report as
Captains Basham, Buckle and Dent
Our chief witness in the first case I was ever involved in during my articles rejoiced in the name of Randy Kruk....
A classmate of mine was of Chinese heritage, with the surname Fu.
Teacher: How do you spell that? Classmate: F U, sir!
Probably the bigger risk for the Tories is becoming too fixated on Corbyn and his nutcase associates and failing to make the positive case for their own policies, only to find that Labour neutralise the attacks by dumping Corbyn, putting the Tories behind the game against a fresh new Labour leader (even allowing for there being a fresh new Tory leader too).
Clive Lewis will swoop in and take over from Corbyn about a year before the election. He's a lefty economically and also a bit "doveish" on foreign policy, but has (a) served in the Army so it would literally be impossible for the Tories to paint him as "anti-British", and (b) is more charismatic than Corbyn.
Well a good point but sadly wrong. They won't paint him as anti British for his military history which is of course without question. They will utterly destroy him because he sat on the sidelines while the expected LOTO remained in place for 4 solid years without a whimper.
If they elect Corby then truly there really is no way back..... for anyone.
TSE - you appear to have backed Cooper in the competition and yet predicted JC getting over 50%.
Have I missed something?
Auto correct gone mammary glands up I think
You wanted to vote Corbyn, but after two letters, the auto-correct assumed that only a fuck-wit would want to vote that way, so....
My phone is used to me regularly typing "Agent Cooper"
She's dead. Wrapped in plastic.
Yay someone got the reference. My friend really regrets becoming a field agent for a utility and having the surname Cooper.
Does he/she have a partner called Dianne?
No, but she does have a dog called Dale.
Ha!
Does she like cherry pie? I mean really? I take it this doesn't get old for you, but same can't be said for her?
Any more news about Frost/Lynch wrt a new series yet? Last I hear, Lynch was back on board...
My surname is one that leads to many jokes.
The frustrating thing is not the jokes, but that the jokers believe that they are being witty and original.
Believe me, you are not! I have heard every possible combination of joke on the topic.
Could be worse, my friend has the name A Hooker.
Everyone thinks they are the first person to tell her "I'm spending the next few hours with A Hooker"
I participated in a investigation after a ship hit a dock. The captain was Captain Buckle, the investigating officer was Captain Basham and the class surveyor was Captain Dent
They had immense pleasure in signing off the final damage report as
TSE - you appear to have backed Cooper in the competition and yet predicted JC getting over 50%.
Have I missed something?
Auto correct gone mammary glands up I think
You wanted to vote Corbyn, but after two letters, the auto-correct assumed that only a fuck-wit would want to vote that way, so....
My phone is used to me regularly typing "Agent Cooper"
She's dead. Wrapped in plastic.
Yay someone got the reference. My friend really regrets becoming a field agent for a utility and having the surname Cooper.
Does he/she have a partner called Dianne?
No, but she does have a dog called Dale.
Ha!
Does she like cherry pie? I mean really? I take it this doesn't get old for you, but same can't be said for her?
Any more news about Frost/Lynch wrt a new series yet? Last I hear, Lynch was back on board...
My surname is one that leads to many jokes.
The frustrating thing is not the jokes, but that the jokers believe that they are being witty and original.
Believe me, you are not! I have heard every possible combination of joke on the topic.
Could be worse, my friend has the name A Hooker.
Everyone thinks they are the first person to tell her "I'm spending the next few hours with A Hooker"
I participated in a investigation after a ship hit a dock. The captain was Captain Buckle, the investigating officer was Captain Basham and the class surveyor was Captain Dent
They had immense pleasure in signing off the final damage report as
Captains Basham, Buckle and Dent
Our chief witness in the first case I was ever involved in during my articles rejoiced in the name of Randy Kruk....
Many years ago I lived in Twickenham, and near Twickenham Green was a butcher's shop, with a big sign saying - For Best quality meats only, Caress and Seymour
Probably the bigger risk for the Tories is becoming too fixated on Corbyn and his nutcase associates and failing to make the positive case for their own policies, only to find that Labour neutralise the attacks by dumping Corbyn, putting the Tories behind the game against a fresh new Labour leader (even allowing for there being a fresh new Tory leader too).
Clive Lewis will swoop in and take over from Corbyn about a year before the election. He's a lefty economically and also a bit "doveish" on foreign policy, but has (a) served in the Army so it would literally be impossible for the Tories to paint him as "anti-British", and (b) is more charismatic than Corbyn.
Well a good point but sadly wrong. They won't paint him as anti British for his military history which is of course without question. They will utterly destroy him because he sat on the sidelines while the expected LOTO remained in place for 4 solid years without a whimper.
If they elect Corby then truly there really is no way back..... for anyone.
G.A.M.E. O.V.E.R.
Serving in the military dies not stop charges of weakness just ask John Kerry. In any case Dan Jarvis would probably be a better bet
The man just has this visceral hatred of America doesn't he?
Corbyn, if he ever became PM, would rather have special relationships with Putin's Russia, Palestine and Cuba than the USA and Israel with the possible exception of a Sanders presidency
Bernie's brother Larry Sanders actually contested Oxford West & Abingdon at GE2015 for the Green Party. He only came fifth, however.
This doesn't seem to fit very comfortably with Kezia's 50/50 gender balance policy - or is there something some of these male SLAB stalwarts are not disclosing about their current gender ?
It just feeds more strongly into the East/West split of the current round of the SLAB meltdown. The more Kez tries to reform Scottish Labour into a more inclusive and meritorious party (in her mind) the more the Dinosaurs of West Central Scotland will do just the opposite.
What better way to confront Kez than appointing a gluttenous, leching beast to what is, amazingly, now Scottish Labour's most powerful political position.
I think Kezia is trying to run the party from Edinburgh and trying to manoeuvre around the SLAB's Glasgow Office. The last I read, only the folks who were party members or affiliates in mid June 2015 are going to be allowed to vote on the regional list placings in February 2016.
At least Murray has confirmed he would serve in a Corbyn cabinet.
@Moses, - My apologies, I appear to have mistook you in an earlier post for a 7 foot Llama…
How was your trip escaping the Danish border guard...!
Well sort of uneventful. Just north of the border there were some at a petrol station but not causing any problems. Checked boot before departure as was recommended by another PB er Border was open on the road and there of of course no checkpoints or wasn't today.
I did notice that there were 10 times the number of lorries heading north compared to the ones heading south..... Make your own mind up.
Hamburg airport is a mess tonight. Nearly 2 hours to get through security
TSE - you appear to have backed Cooper in the competition and yet predicted JC getting over 50%.
Have I missed something?
Auto correct gone mammary glands up I think
You wanted to vote Corbyn, but after two letters, the auto-correct assumed that only a fuck-wit would want to vote that way, so....
My phone is used to me regularly typing "Agent Cooper"
She's dead. Wrapped in plastic.
Yay someone got the reference. My friend really regrets becoming a field agent for a utility and having the surname Cooper.
Does he/she have a partner called Dianne?
No, but she does have a dog called Dale.
Ha!
Does she like cherry pie? I mean really? I take it this doesn't get old for you, but same can't be said for her?
Any more news about Frost/Lynch wrt a new series yet? Last I hear, Lynch was back on board...
My surname is one that leads to many jokes.
The frustrating thing is not the jokes, but that the jokers believe that they are being witty and original.
Believe me, you are not! I have heard every possible combination of joke on the topic.
Could be worse, my friend has the name A Hooker.
Everyone thinks they are the first person to tell her "I'm spending the next few hours with A Hooker"
I participated in a investigation after a ship hit a dock. The captain was Captain Buckle, the investigating officer was Captain Basham and the class surveyor was Captain Dent
They had immense pleasure in signing off the final damage report as
Captains Basham, Buckle and Dent
Our chief witness in the first case I was ever involved in during my articles rejoiced in the name of Randy Kruk....
A classmate of mine was of Chinese heritage, with the surname Fu.
Teacher: How do you spell that? Classmate: F U, sir!
I once had to assess for employment a Chinese candidate with the name
Jackpot on Pointless.. .Name any constituency with "East" "West" or "North" in the title
I got two pointless answers from my three...
Which ones?
Well there were 170 Pointless answers!
I said Rochford & Southend East, East Ham & Islington North.. East Ham scored 3 the other two were Pointless
But did the contestants get any of the 170 pointless answers?
Yes.. I cant remember which now!
They said East Bridlington which doesn't exist anymore, and Dundee North which got one point
I think Aberdeen North was wot won it.. they said if they won with a place name they had planned to spend the prize visiting it.. but then changed their mind afterwards!
Seems like Jowell will be the one most screwed over by the union sign ups and £3ers rather than any of the leadership contenders. If the voting figures are broken down, there could be unhappiness if Jowell is ahead by a decent amount amongst members.
Former London mayor Ken Livingstone is in line for a top role if Jeremy Corbyn wins the Labour leadership race
Ken Livingstone has been suggested as a leader of the 'Corbyn army' It would include all those who paid £3 to back him in the leadership race Corbyn set to call shadow cabinet members to assess suitability to serve under him
"I hear that Team Corbyn has started ringing round senior Labour MPs to check whether they are willing to serve in a Jeremy Corbyn-led Shadow Cabinet. They may not be measuring the curtains, but they are leafing through the catalogues." http://blogs.channel4.com/gary-gibbon-on-politics/road-corbyn/31401
TSE - you appear to have backed Cooper in the competition and yet predicted JC getting over 50%.
Have I missed something?
Auto correct gone mammary glands up I think
You wanted to vote Corbyn, but after two letters, the auto-correct assumed that only a fuck-wit would want to vote that way, so....
My phone is used to me regularly typing "Agent Cooper"
She's dead. Wrapped in plastic.
Yay someone got the reference. My friend really regrets becoming a field agent for a utility and having the surname Cooper.
Does he/she have a partner called Dianne?
No, but she does have a dog called Dale.
Ha!
Does she like cherry pie? I mean really? I take it this doesn't get old for you, but same can't be said for her?
Any more news about Frost/Lynch wrt a new series yet? Last I hear, Lynch was back on board...
My surname is one that leads to many jokes.
The frustrating thing is not the jokes, but that the jokers believe that they are being witty and original.
Believe me, you are not! I have heard every possible combination of joke on the topic.
Could be worse, my friend has the name A Hooker.
Everyone thinks they are the first person to tell her "I'm spending the next few hours with A Hooker"
I participated in a investigation after a ship hit a dock. The captain was Captain Buckle, the investigating officer was Captain Basham and the class surveyor was Captain Dent
They had immense pleasure in signing off the final damage report as
Captains Basham, Buckle and Dent
Our chief witness in the first case I was ever involved in during my articles rejoiced in the name of Randy Kruk....
A classmate of mine was of Chinese heritage, with the surname Fu.
Teacher: How do you spell that? Classmate: F U, sir!
I once had to assess for employment a Chinese candidate with the name
Hu Suk Bum
When I worked for Tesco we had some student agency workers. Min Gi Che Se Chun Kee Kok Used to cause much mirth in the office if someone had to call them over the tannoy
Former London mayor Ken Livingstone is in line for a top role if Jeremy Corbyn wins the Labour leadership race
Ken Livingstone has been suggested as a leader of the 'Corbyn army' It would include all those who paid £3 to back him in the leadership race Corbyn set to call shadow cabinet members to assess suitability to serve under him
"I hear that Team Corbyn has started ringing round senior Labour MPs to check whether they are willing to serve in a Jeremy Corbyn-led Shadow Cabinet. They may not be measuring the curtains, but they are leafing through the catalogues." http://blogs.channel4.com/gary-gibbon-on-politics/road-corbyn/31401
They had immense pleasure in signing off the final damage report as
Captains Basham, Buckle and Dent
Our chief witness in the first case I was ever involved in during my articles rejoiced in the name of Randy Kruk....
There is no point in this conversation.
Nothing will ever beat the British Ambassador (in Moscow, I think) during 1916 who wrote to the Foreign Officer to report that he had a new colleague by the name of Mustapha Kunt.
As he put it "we all feel like that from time to time, but it takes a Turk to put in on their card"
They had immense pleasure in signing off the final damage report as
Captains Basham, Buckle and Dent
Our chief witness in the first case I was ever involved in during my articles rejoiced in the name of Randy Kruk....
There is no point in this conversation.
Nothing will ever beat the British Ambassador (in Moscow, I think) during 1916 who wrote to the Foreign Officer to report that he had a new colleague by the name of Mustapha Kunt.
As he put it "we all feel like that from time to time, but it takes a Turk to put in on their card"
Indeed. Fighting for the lesser podium positions....
"I hear that Team Corbyn has started ringing round senior Labour MPs to check whether they are willing to serve in a Jeremy Corbyn-led Shadow Cabinet. They may not be measuring the curtains, but they are leafing through the catalogues." http://blogs.channel4.com/gary-gibbon-on-politics/road-corbyn/31401
"I hear that Team Corbyn has started ringing round senior Labour MPs to check whether they are willing to serve in a Jeremy Corbyn-led Shadow Cabinet. They may not be measuring the curtains, but they are leafing through the catalogues." http://blogs.channel4.com/gary-gibbon-on-politics/road-corbyn/31401
Is this a Sheffield rally moment?
"We're aaaaall LEFT!"
LOL!
Will the last Blairite to leave the building please turn out the lights.
"I hear that Team Corbyn has started ringing round senior Labour MPs to check whether they are willing to serve in a Jeremy Corbyn-led Shadow Cabinet. They may not be measuring the curtains, but they are leafing through the catalogues." http://blogs.channel4.com/gary-gibbon-on-politics/road-corbyn/31401
Mr. Taffys, not sure it'll harm Labour that much in such areas.
Mr. Borough, the Sheffield Rally happened before the polls opened, though.
For those a little older than me, was 1992 or 2015 the more shocking result?
1992 I'd say. Although I knew on the day itself that the Tories had probably won when a friends wife - a teacher and usually fairly centre ground - said she'd gone Tory in a marginal seat.
Well I'm an engineer from Solihull and I finally joined Labour to vote for Corbyn. Quite a few people in my demographic that I know have done the same.
Mr. Taffys, not sure it'll harm Labour that much in such areas.
Mr. Borough, the Sheffield Rally happened before the polls opened, though.
For those a little older than me, was 1992 or 2015 the more shocking result?
Good question. I'd say 2015 actually, because virtually no-one say a Tory majority coming. Though a lot of people thought 1992 would be either small Lab majority or a hung parliament, a Tory majority was also seen as a possibility - and after 1983, 1987 many Labour supporters were not that optimistic.
Credit to her for atleast having the humility and self-awareness to recognise that she/the Blairites got things wrong. But she goes onto demonstrate just why they've failed when she describes the EU referendum as "the defining event of our generation": most Labour members, even ones who are pro-EU (leaving aside the growing Lefty Eurosceptics) rank fighting austerity and inequality as higher priorities than staying in Europe.
They had immense pleasure in signing off the final damage report as
Captains Basham, Buckle and Dent
Our chief witness in the first case I was ever involved in during my articles rejoiced in the name of Randy Kruk....
There is no point in this conversation.
Nothing will ever beat the British Ambassador (in Moscow, I think) during 1916 who wrote to the Foreign Officer to report that he had a new colleague by the name of Mustapha Kunt.
As he put it "we all feel like that from time to time, but it takes a Turk to put in on their card"
Archibald Kerr, Lord Inverchapel, British Ambassador to Moscow, writing to Reginald Pembroke in 1943, when the outcome of Barbarossa was still in doubt:
My Dear Reggie,
In these dark days man tends to look for little shafts of light that spill from Heaven. My days are probably darker than yours, and I need, my God I do, all the light I can get. But I am a decent fellow, and I do not want to be mean and selfish about what little brightness is shed upon me from time to time. So I propose to share with you a tiny flash that has illuminated my sombre life and tell you that God has given me a new Turkish colleague whose card tells me that he is called Mustapha Kunt.
We all feel like that, Reggie, now and then, especially when Spring is upon us, but few of us would care to put it on our cards. It takes a Turk to do that.
Sir Archibald Clerk Kerr, H.M. Ambassador"
I have actually seen the original, which is in the National Archives and has a government stamp on it, so despite Wikipedia casting doubt on it it is genuine!
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https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/#/politics/market/1.103946886
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news
NI first minister steps down
Agreed.
http://www.labourpartyni.org/
The next Labour leader's appointment of a shadow NI secretary is thus perhaps the most pressing appointment.It must be someone who will be seen to be fair to all in NI and Jeremy Corbyn has work to do to gain the trust of unionists.There also remains the idea floated by Andy Burnham that Labour changes policy,organises and puts up candidates in NI.This makes sense if UK Labour decides to support a federal structure.
I suggest Keir Starmer for the role and I hope to see him in the shadow cabinet and I second TSE's view that he is value at 20-1 for the next Labour leader.He is a man relatively "baggage free".
I wonder if Jeremy does succession planning?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_London_(1839)
© Private Baldrick
Unclear about your point, if any.
The USA is a successful capitalist bastion against communism. Its obvious why the nutjob left hate it.
Will the Conservative genie keep granting wishes? Will Labour attempt to eat its own face?
We'll find out soon.
That must be slightly annoying to Tories, but I guess they cannot get greedy.
They had immense pleasure in signing off the final damage report as
Captains Basham, Buckle and Dent
Which turned out to be a bad guess.
Captain Blackadder: Yes, that's right. You see, there was a tiny flaw in the plan.
Private Baldrick: What was that, sir?
Captain Blackadder: It was bollocks.
Private Baldrick: So the poor old ostrich died for nothing then.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Oxford_West_and_Abingdon&redirect=no
The Falklands
;-)
How was your trip escaping the Danish border guard...!
JC 1.21
YC 9
AB 16
Think YC is the price to watch - AB looks done.
Teacher: How do you spell that?
Classmate: F U, sir!
I got two pointless answers from my three...
https://twitter.com/stephenkb/status/642016866714689536
If they elect Corby then truly there really is no way back..... for anyone.
G.A.M.E. O.V.E.R.
I said Rochford & Southend East, East Ham & Islington North.. East Ham scored 3 the other two were Pointless
The Slovakians, Cypriots and Hungarians are making similar noises.
At least Murray has confirmed he would serve in a Corbyn cabinet.
Border was open on the road and there of of course no checkpoints or wasn't today.
I did notice that there were 10 times the number of lorries heading north compared to the ones heading south..... Make your own mind up.
Hamburg airport is a mess tonight. Nearly 2 hours to get through security
I blame Ms. Merkel as do the Danes.
Hu Suk Bum
They said East Bridlington which doesn't exist anymore, and Dundee North which got one point
I think Aberdeen North was wot won it.. they said if they won with a place name they had planned to spend the prize visiting it.. but then changed their mind afterwards!
https://twitter.com/NCPoliticsUK/status/642024527363481600
http://blogs.channel4.com/gary-gibbon-on-politics/road-corbyn/31401
Min Gi
Che Se
Chun Kee Kok
Used to cause much mirth in the office if someone had to call them over the tannoy
Derek Hatton must be on tenterhooks, waiting for that call.
Nothing will ever beat the British Ambassador (in Moscow, I think) during 1916 who wrote to the Foreign Officer to report that he had a new colleague by the name of Mustapha Kunt.
As he put it "we all feel like that from time to time, but it takes a Turk to put in on their card"
Should go down well in those northern strongholds...
Mr. Borough, the Sheffield Rally happened before the polls opened, though.
For those a little older than me, was 1992 or 2015 the more shocking result?
Will the last Blairite to leave the building please turn out the lights.
Quite a few people in my demographic that I know have done the same.
http://www.lizforleader.com/closingspeech
Credit to her for atleast having the humility and self-awareness to recognise that she/the Blairites got things wrong. But she goes onto demonstrate just why they've failed when she describes the EU referendum as "the defining event of our generation": most Labour members, even ones who are pro-EU (leaving aside the growing Lefty Eurosceptics) rank fighting austerity and inequality as higher priorities than staying in Europe.