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Last time the final YouGov poll was carried out about 6 days after the ballot packs went out and a key question was whether people had actually voted at that stage. This time the final poll was published just as the ballot started going out.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1iHNSmHmoA
Edited extra bit: that's a fair point. We just don't know whether Labour will led by a third rate lightweight, or a 1970s socialist.
How on earth do they think that Corbyn can appeal to the British public?
1. There will have to be another election.
2. Back to the nominations.
3. Oh, Corbyn isn't being nominated.
4. What a shame.
- the secret Harman Plan.
Would Jeremy Corbyn be a risk to Britain's security, would he bankrupt Britain, would you trust Labour to organise a farting contest in a baked bean factory etc.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COd4JwrWcAEweWq.jpg
But, that doesn't mean the other 76% are left-wing. I don't think there is any hidden reservoir of left wing voters who'll rally to a Corbyn-led Labour Party. Worse, there are almost certainly centrist Labour voters who'll switch elsewhere or stay at home.
That'd require a huge surge for UKIP or the Lib Dems. With Corbyn as leader, it's possible, but tribal loyalty can run very deep.
No, they think that Corbyn's straightforwardness will cut through the other phoney politicians and he will win.
No more Tory-lites!
(According to a supporter I asked).
http://www.bristol247.com/channel/news-comment/daily/politics/mayoral-candidates-set-to-be-revealed
Former Bristol West Green candidate may have upset his party by endorsing current Mayor.
Ahem.
Hence my very careful words 'based on what was presented'
Still think that Jezza will narrowly fail. He's not Santa Claus, he's a very naughty boy.
The average Labour member thinks there was enough compromise with the electorate last time under Ed Miliband. Since that failed so decisively, the British electorate can go to hell: they'll vote for someone they really believe in, and see if that passion is enough for others to become as inspired as they are.
After all, they can't do any worse, can they?
And then @NickPalmer could support them and claim that he has maintained a consistent position throughout.
Not only the worst possible leader, but also the worst possible timing.
Edited extra bit: Mr. Taffys, still, it's not like his views on Northern Ireland are going to come back to bite him.
Oh.
But it isn't. It's an omnif*cking clustershambles - but a legitimate, Labour home-grown totally by-the-book omnif*cking clustershambles. The problem is the rule-book was written by a f*ckwit. With a red crayon.
And then the Labour MPs decided to scrawl all over it. In dog vomit.
Radical Muslims; ethnic minority activists; disaffected feminists; angry teachers and university workers; left-wing students who can't stand "cisgendered" speakers; Greens; human rights lawyers; people working in professions like fashion, design, and the arts; and between them, that's quite an influential and vocal coalition. But, it's a coalition that's totally off-putting to the average voter.
Just tried to send you a message. I hope that you have received it OK.
I think even Corbyn's detractors might be fair-minded enough to concede that his victory might only be the second-worst of what the possible outcomes to this contest were. Perhaps third-worst if you count Chuka's abortive candidacy.
A slow motion car crash that goes on and on and on, and on and on and on and on, and on and on and on and on and on and on and on. I don't think the end of the voting period will make it all stop.
You're an utter superstar.
The mere 11% having an issue with the drone strike was instructive.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/sep/08/labour-up-to-eight-shadow-cabinet-members-may-refuse-to-serve-with-corbyn
Slightly ominous that they have closed their "helpline" given people still haven't receive their ballot paper.
Andy Burnham had a face like a smacked bottom. No sign of Liz.
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That is a very good article indeed.
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An excellent article from a lifetime leftie, who pulls out all the stops and see's that in Jezza Corbyn it's all wysiwyg. Trouble is, why oh why didn't Taylor Parks write this piece two or three weeks ago?
Social media could have a better record but it's prone to becoming an echo chamber.
I don't really do politics on Twitter [with rare exceptions], but did try following someone whose opinion I knew would almost always be different to mine. I think it's useful to get as wide a range of views as possible.
Result? He blocked me. No idea why. We didn't fall out. Indeed, I commented, politely, on a few of his tweets and occasionally he'd respond.
So, even when people try to get beyond the echo chamber, it doesn't always work.
On the drone strike: it was somewhat reassuring to read views here and the YouGov poll, because my own view was miles away from the bleating newsreaders wibbling about the death of two terrorists.
Edited extra bit: cheers for that info, Mr. Rentool.
As you'd expect (I'm neither a real nor a pretend Labour supporter) I've not been paying close attention to the deputy contest, so it's interesting to hear how you think things stack up.
I do know that voting for Watson is about as appealing a prospect as a handjob from Edward Scissorhands.
Most people find their predjudices comforting and like them to be confirmed, not challenged.
Is it OK for a Guardian-reading leftie to play Grand Theft Auto?
http://bit.ly/1IYno3y
Maybe my relaxed approach is due to my lack of prejudice. Well. Except for anti-elven prejudice, but those pointy-eared bastards deserve it.
http://thaddeusthesixth.blogspot.co.uk/2015/08/guest-post-why-elves-are-total-bastards.html
"So long as you only steal environmentally friendly vehicles I don't see how there could be a problem."
"There are plenty of equally unsavoury games out there - I'm thinking of that battlefield simulation game where you hack your way through the enemy's low-status troops before deposing their leader... Chess, I think it's called.
And I'd be very concerned if, as a self-proclaimed "leftie", you admitted to enjoying Monopoly."
And who would want to contract out their critical faculties?
[I haven't actually played GTA V. I may get around to it, but I've only played the one, San Andreas, previously, and with Fallout 4 on the horizon see no need to get it at once].
NB: If the Guardian ever does a positive review of any of my books I reserve the right to agree that it is the best source for determining worthy media.
Just think about that for a minute.
MPs refusing to serve in Cabinet with their own leader? How is the labour party sustainable on this basis?
I called it and Stephen Bush said no.
Discuss...
Terrorists scheming to kill us. Do you a) do nothing b) kill them?
Labour leadership: Jeremy Corbyn 'was urged to quit contest'
Present Labour leadership now shitting themselves.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/labour-shuts-down-leadership-election-6412158
Right then. Clearly loads of ppl without a #labourleadership vote. We have the basis of a class legal action here. I'm serious.
a) Each computer was a perfect chess player
b) Each computer knew that the other computer was a perfect chess player,
then a game between the two of them would run,
COMPUTER#1: Pawn to KP4
COMPUTER#2: Resigns.
Genuinely dunno.
IF the poll was made up of 53% people who voted Yes last year and 47% people who voted no then there wouldn't be the slightest bit of surprise at the result of the poll.
The French forces had to assault both the kosher supermarket and the place where the Hebdo killers were hiding out in Northern France at the same time.
One of the women killed in the Charlie Hebdo offices was Jewish. The assassins spared the other women there but killed this particular lady because she was Jewish. In the deli attack, one of the shop assistants, a young man from Mali, a Muslim as it happened - and more importantly, a decent human being - shepherded down tto the cold store room 8 of the shoppers and thereby kept them safe. He managed to escape and was able to help the French police with the layout so that they were able later to kill the terrorist and free the remaining shoppers.
For his remarkable act of bravery, his application for French citizenship was fast-tracked and he was awarded it a few weeks later in a ceremony by President Hollande.
The young man said when asked to explain his actions: "Mon coeur a parle. Et j'ai reagi."
"My heart spoke and I acted."
That is the definition of true character. An example to us all.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34197785
They must have been reading PB.
Ah, was that the event where people hid in the freezer and idiotic media broadcast their location?
I think it was indeed an example of me forgetting something. Ahem.
On Labour's woe: I'm beginning to think the deliberate shambles theory holds water. But does the margin of potential Corbyn victory alter the prospect of a potential re-run?
Now heading west...