The BBC's paper reviewers falling over themselves to rubbish the poll showing No on 51% for the EU referendum.
They should be careful. Six months ago, the idea that someone like Jeremy Corbyn could be elected as Labour leader was also for the birds. Two years ago so was the idea that Scotland might be cleaned up by the SNP.
For BBC Radio 4, I've been searching for some idea of what the modern "British Dream" could be, through a series of frank interviews with some of the almost 3 million new arrivals to England and Wales since 2001 (the first of three programmes is broadcast at 8pm starting tonight). Time and again, our team uncovered Africans who were not any longer from Africa. They were EU citizens and actually giving up welfare rights in places like Scandinavia to come to the UK.
Ouch! This has got to hurt the Dems, and Hillary's campaign in particular:
"In an election for President of the United States, today, Labor Day, business provocateur Donald Trump narrowly defeats Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, Bernie Sanders and Al Gore, in head-to-head matchups, according to nationwide polling conducted by SurveyUSA.
"Today it's:
* Trump 45%, Clinton 40%. (There is a 20-point Gender Gap; Trump leads by 18 points among seniors.) * Trump 44%, Sanders 40%. (Trump leads by 10 among independents and by 6 among moderates.) * Trump 44%, Biden 42%. (Trump leads by 10 among the best educated; Biden leads by 17 among the least educated.) * Trump 44%, Gore 41%. (Trump leads by 12 among men and by 18 among voters age 50+.)
Among a subset of registered voters who tell SurveyUSA that they pay "a lot" of attention to politics, the scale tilts to the right: Today it's:
The BBC's paper reviewers falling over themselves to rubbish the poll showing No on 51% for the EU referendum.
They should be careful. Six months ago, the idea that someone like Jeremy Corbyn could be elected as Labour leader was also for the birds. Two years ago so was the idea that Scotland might be cleaned up by the SNP.
These are unpredictable times.
Agreed. Sadly, I have thought for a long time that Britain will vote 'No'/'leave' if offered the opportunity. The latest media frenzy over migration/asylum means I am more certain.
The BBC's paper reviewers falling over themselves to rubbish the poll showing No on 51% for the EU referendum.
They should be careful. Six months ago, the idea that someone like Jeremy Corbyn could be elected as Labour leader was also for the birds. Two years ago so was the idea that Scotland might be cleaned up by the SNP.
These are unpredictable times.
Agreed. Sadly, I have thought for a long time that Britain will vote 'No'/'leave' if offered the opportunity. The latest media frenzy over migration/asylum means I am more certain.
There's nothing sad about it: I think it's a tremendous opportunity for the country.
The BBC's paper reviewers falling over themselves to rubbish the poll showing No on 51% for the EU referendum.
They should be careful. Six months ago, the idea that someone like Jeremy Corbyn could be elected as Labour leader was also for the birds. Two years ago so was the idea that Scotland might be cleaned up by the SNP.
These are unpredictable times.
Agreed. Sadly, I have thought for a long time that Britain will vote 'No'/'leave' if offered the opportunity. The latest media frenzy over migration/asylum means I am more certain.
There's nothing sad about it: I think it's a tremendous opportunity for the country.
Personally, I'd be delighted.
We'll have to agree to disagree on this one I suspect.
This is the danger for the Tory leadership. They risk being on the wrong side of the base, which can be done, but only if you're respectful and honest about it. If they start coming out with three million jobs nonsense or say eurosceptics want to pull up the drawbridge they will be in trouble.
Not that it's an impressive set of goals anyway but polls like this should actually help Cameron wring concessions from other EU leaders to achieve his (highly limited) renegotiation.
But that assumes the remainder of the EU still care whether we stay or not.
The BBC's paper reviewers falling over themselves to rubbish the poll showing No on 51% for the EU referendum.
They should be careful. Six months ago, the idea that someone like Jeremy Corbyn could be elected as Labour leader was also for the birds. Two years ago so was the idea that Scotland might be cleaned up by the SNP.
These are unpredictable times.
Agreed. Sadly, I have thought for a long time that Britain will vote 'No'/'leave' if offered the opportunity. The latest media frenzy over migration/asylum means I am more certain.
There's nothing sad about it: I think it's a tremendous opportunity for the country.
Personally, I'd be delighted.
We'll have to agree to disagree on this one I suspect.
Bed time - night all.
Not at all. I hope I can persuade you over the coming months to look at it differently.
This is the danger for the Tory leadership. They risk being on the wrong side of the base, which can be done, but only if you're respectful and honest about it. If they start coming out with three million jobs nonsense or say eurosceptics want to pull up the drawbridge they will be in trouble.
Not that it's an impressive set of goals anyway but polls like this should actually help Cameron wring concessions from other EU leaders to achieve his (highly limited) renegotiation.
But that assumes the remainder of the EU still care whether we stay or not.
I think they do ( French aside possibly ) but thus far I don't think they're taking the possibility of us actually going seriously. Some "leave" leads would be great to concentrate minds and extract some concessions.
Make your minds up, yesterday according to the ABC's, Cooper was brilliant and Burnham was trash, today they flipped once more.
Indeed, the Head of the Kendall campaign has said he has given his second vote to Burnham. "According to Burnham’s canvassing data – involving responses from the 80,494 people eligible to vote – the percentage of his voters who have, or will, put Corbyn down as a second preference has risen in recent weeks from 28% to 51%.
Cooper has been better at appealing to ABCs, Burnham has been better at appealing to people who sympathise with Corbyn but worry about electability or foreign policy or whatever. So Cooper is well placed to win the ABC "primary", but Burnham would do better in the final round.
This is the danger for the Tory leadership. They risk being on the wrong side of the base, which can be done, but only if you're respectful and honest about it. If they start coming out with three million jobs nonsense or say eurosceptics want to pull up the drawbridge they will be in trouble.
Not that it's an impressive set of goals anyway but polls like this should actually help Cameron wring concessions from other EU leaders to achieve his (highly limited) renegotiation.
But that assumes the remainder of the EU still care whether we stay or not.
I think they do ( French aside possibly ) but thus far I don't think they're taking the possibility of us actually going seriously. Some "leave" leads would be great to concentrate minds and extract some concessions.
Precisely.
Right, I must do some sack hitting myself. Goodnight.
Make your minds up, yesterday according to the ABC's, Cooper was brilliant and Burnham was trash, today they flipped once more.
Indeed, the Head of the Kendall campaign has said he has given his second vote to Burnham. "According to Burnham’s canvassing data – involving responses from the 80,494 people eligible to vote – the percentage of his voters who have, or will, put Corbyn down as a second preference has risen in recent weeks from 28% to 51%.
Cooper has been better at appealing to ABCs, Burnham has been better at appealing to people who sympathise with Corbyn but worry about electability or foreign policy or whatever. So Cooper is well placed to win the ABC "primary", but Burnham would do better in the final round.
Exactly, it is only by winning over some Corbyn leaning voters that an ABC candidate will win, and Burnham is the only candidate likely to do that
Ouch! This has got to hurt the Dems, and Hillary's campaign in particular:
"In an election for President of the United States, today, Labor Day, business provocateur Donald Trump narrowly defeats Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, Bernie Sanders and Al Gore, in head-to-head matchups, according to nationwide polling conducted by SurveyUSA.
"Today it's:
* Trump 45%, Clinton 40%. (There is a 20-point Gender Gap; Trump leads by 18 points among seniors.) * Trump 44%, Sanders 40%. (Trump leads by 10 among independents and by 6 among moderates.) * Trump 44%, Biden 42%. (Trump leads by 10 among the best educated; Biden leads by 17 among the least educated.) * Trump 44%, Gore 41%. (Trump leads by 12 among men and by 18 among voters age 50+.)
Among a subset of registered voters who tell SurveyUSA that they pay "a lot" of attention to politics, the scale tilts to the right: Today it's:
I can't believe Americans are seriously going to vote for Trump as POTUS.
The world has gone mad.
Interestingly on some matters like healthcare (Trump has praised the Scottish system) and the tax code Trump has been left of most Republicans in his statements, it is on immigration that he really takes a hard right line
Home tomorrow after a ludicrous wander, even by my standards.
In 10 days: Frankfurt, Paris, Brussels, Philadelphia, Raleigh, Greensboro, Chicago, Lansing, Los Angeles, Phoenix, Kansas City, New Jersey, Indianapolis and New York.
Can't wait
I managed India, Switzerland, France and the US during calendar year 2010, but that is highly impressive!
Globetrotters! I haven't been out of the UK since early 2008.
'Well if we do leave the EU we will certainly lose Scotland this time
That's a win win.
In the end I think it will be a narrow In, but as this poll shows Cameron does need to get a reasonable renegotiation to ensure it
Well, good luck with that one. Does anyone especially after the migrant crisis saga - believe that Cameron will get a decent renegotiation?
In the end Germany will want the UK to stay, it does not want to be the only major north European economy left in the EU, outnumbered by Spain, Italy and France
They've nothing left to offer us.
Stay in the EU and take several hundred thousand asylum seekers.
In the end I don't think we will take a large number
We won't have a choice when they get EU passports.
That takes ~8 years in Germany, by which time people will be by and large settled down in Germany.
Passports took 10 years in Holland, yet more than a third of their Somali population came to the UK. If only 10% of this migrant wave do the same, thats an extra 80,000 per year for the UK.
I recall stories that a significant number of Somalis living in the Netherlands became embroiled in accusations of benefit fraud. Because they were EU citizens many moved en masse to the UK. It's a pity that their unemployment rate is extremely high.
'Well if we do leave the EU we will certainly lose Scotland this time
That's a win win.
In the end I think it will be a narrow In, but as this poll shows Cameron does need to get a reasonable renegotiation to ensure it
Well, good luck with that one. Does anyone especially after the migrant crisis saga - believe that Cameron will get a decent renegotiation?
In the end Germany will want the UK to stay, it does not want to be the only major north European economy left in the EU, outnumbered by Spain, Italy and France
They've nothing left to offer us.
Stay in the EU and take several hundred thousand asylum seekers.
In the end I don't think we will take a large number
We won't have a choice when they get EU passports.
That takes ~8 years in Germany, by which time people will be by and large settled down in Germany.
Passports took 10 years in Holland, yet more than a third of their Somali population came to the UK. If only 10% of this migrant wave do the same, thats an extra 80,000 per year for the UK.
I recall stories that a significant number of Somalis living in the Netherlands became embroiled in accusations of benefit fraud. Because they were EU citizens many moved en masse to the UK. It's a pity that their unemployment rate is extremely high.
And organised violent crime is rife. There's a level of hardness you acquire from being a young soldier that is so far off the scale what you would normally see in civilisation. Utter pure brutality. Violence without hesitation of conscience.
'Well if we do leave the EU we will certainly lose Scotland this time
That's a win win.
In the end I think it will be a narrow In, but as this poll shows Cameron does need to get a reasonable renegotiation to ensure it
Well, good luck with that one. Does anyone especially after the migrant crisis saga - believe that Cameron will get a decent renegotiation?
In the end Germany will want the UK to stay, it does not want to be the only major north European economy left in the EU, outnumbered by Spain, Italy and France
They've nothing left to offer us.
Stay in the EU and take several hundred thousand asylum seekers.
In the end I don't think we will take a large number
We won't have a choice when they get EU passports.
That takes ~8 years in Germany, by which time people will be by and large settled down in Germany.
Passports took 10 years in Holland, yet more than a third of their Somali population came to the UK. If only 10% of this migrant wave do the same, thats an extra 80,000 per year for the UK.
I recall stories that a significant number of Somalis living in the Netherlands became embroiled in accusations of benefit fraud. Because they were EU citizens many moved en masse to the UK. It's a pity that their unemployment rate is extremely high.
Shockingly, only a third of working age Somali immigrants to the UK are in employment. Almost three quarters are on benefits.
The BBC's paper reviewers falling over themselves to rubbish the poll showing No on 51% for the EU referendum.
They should be careful. Six months ago, the idea that someone like Jeremy Corbyn could be elected as Labour leader was also for the birds. Two years ago so was the idea that Scotland might be cleaned up by the SNP.
These are unpredictable times.
Agreed. Sadly, I have thought for a long time that Britain will vote 'No'/'leave' if offered the opportunity. The latest media frenzy over migration/asylum means I am more certain.
There's nothing sad about it: I think it's a tremendous opportunity for the country.
Personally, I'd be delighted.
We are being threatened by Europeans that our "incorrect" stance on taking migrants will diminish our negotiations with Europe. We are being told by Europeans that we "must" take more migrants. These things will add to the 51% that now wish to leave.
'Well if we do leave the EU we will certainly lose Scotland this time
That's a win win.
In the end I think it will be a narrow In, but as this poll shows Cameron does need to get a reasonable renegotiation to ensure it
Well, good luck with that one. Does anyone especially after the migrant crisis saga - believe that Cameron will get a decent renegotiation?
In the end Germany will want the UK to stay, it does not want to be the only major north European economy left in the EU, outnumbered by Spain, Italy and France
They've nothing left to offer us.
Stay in the EU and take several hundred thousand asylum seekers.
In the end I don't think we will take a large number
We won't have a choice when they get EU passports.
That takes ~8 years in Germany, by which time people will be by and large settled down in Germany.
Passports took 10 years in Holland, yet more than a third of their Somali population came to the UK. If only 10% of this migrant wave do the same, thats an extra 80,000 per year for the UK.
I recall stories that a significant number of Somalis living in the Netherlands became embroiled in accusations of benefit fraud. Because they were EU citizens many moved en masse to the UK. It's a pity that their unemployment rate is extremely high.
Shockingly, only a third of working age Somali immigrants to the UK are in employment. Almost three quarters are on benefits.
Home tomorrow after a ludicrous wander, even by my standards.
In 10 days: Frankfurt, Paris, Brussels, Philadelphia, Raleigh, Greensboro, Chicago, Lansing, Los Angeles, Phoenix, Kansas City, New Jersey, Indianapolis and New York.
Can't wait
I managed India, Switzerland, France and the US during calendar year 2010, but that is highly impressive!
Globetrotters! I haven't been out of the UK since early 2008.
2005 for me, but that's nothing compared to a chap at my work. Never been off this island and he just turned 70.
In terms of the Tory leadership doing stupid things to annoy the base, it sounds like they are going to oppose an amendment to stop the EU using public funds to campaign for In. So our UK government will be limited, but the EU will not.
Completely hare-brained.
I'm also disturbed by reports that the In side will be allowed to spend a lot more money than the Out side. That's not fair at all.
Home tomorrow after a ludicrous wander, even by my standards.
In 10 days: Frankfurt, Paris, Brussels, Philadelphia, Raleigh, Greensboro, Chicago, Lansing, Los Angeles, Phoenix, Kansas City, New Jersey, Indianapolis and New York.
Can't wait
I managed India, Switzerland, France and the US during calendar year 2010, but that is highly impressive!
Globetrotters! I haven't been out of the UK since early 2008.
2005 for me, but that's nothing compared to a chap at my work. Never been off this island and he just turned 70.
Good night all.
Wednesday for me.*
* Outside the country being outside the US in this instance.
2005 for me, but that's nothing compared to a chap at my work. Never been off this island and he just turned 70.
Good night all.
Good efforts both. I lived abroad (in three US states) for seven years so I certainly can't match that. I leave the island on the Kilcreggan ferry across the Firth of Clyde about once a month and did make it to the Orkneys this summer.
I've just had an email from a bloke in Nigeria saying if I send some dough via Western union he will send me more back
Also, my auntie, a 20st unemployed layabout, has met a bloke from the Ivory Coast that is 14 years younger than her and fit as a fiddle. He says he loves her and she's been so lonely since uncle died and left her all that money... I think he is going to propose
Home tomorrow after a ludicrous wander, even by my standards.
In 10 days: Frankfurt, Paris, Brussels, Philadelphia, Raleigh, Greensboro, Chicago, Lansing, Los Angeles, Phoenix, Kansas City, New Jersey, Indianapolis and New York.
Can't wait
I managed India, Switzerland, France and the US during calendar year 2010, but that is highly impressive!
Globetrotters! I haven't been out of the UK since early 2008.
2005 for me, but that's nothing compared to a chap at my work. Never been off this island and he just turned 70.
Good night all.
Wednesday for me.*
* Outside the country being outside the US in this instance.
91% of Britons have travelled overseas compared and 8% have never left the country. 50% of Americans have travelled overseas while 48% have not.
However, while 60% of Americans have not left N America, with 28% having gone to Europe (the most visited foreign continent) a majority of Britons have not left Europe either, with 56% of Britons never having visited North America (Britons most visited foreign continent) https://today.yougov.com/news/2014/11/20/no-travel-please/
Ouch! This has got to hurt the Dems, and Hillary's campaign in particular:
"In an election for President of the United States, today, Labor Day, business provocateur Donald Trump narrowly defeats Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, Bernie Sanders and Al Gore, in head-to-head matchups, according to nationwide polling conducted by SurveyUSA.
"Today it's:
* Trump 45%, Clinton 40%. (There is a 20-point Gender Gap; Trump leads by 18 points among seniors.) * Trump 44%, Sanders 40%. (Trump leads by 10 among independents and by 6 among moderates.) * Trump 44%, Biden 42%. (Trump leads by 10 among the best educated; Biden leads by 17 among the least educated.) * Trump 44%, Gore 41%. (Trump leads by 12 among men and by 18 among voters age 50+.)
Among a subset of registered voters who tell SurveyUSA that they pay "a lot" of attention to politics, the scale tilts to the right: Today it's:
I can't believe Americans are seriously going to vote for Trump as POTUS.
The world has gone mad.
Interestingly on some matters like healthcare (Trump has praised the Scottish system) and the tax code Trump has been left of most Republicans in his statements, it is on immigration that he really takes a hard right line
Yes, Trump seems to have had some liberal views in the past - more than a decade ago he was pro-choice - and now he's moved the pro-life position of the Republicans. It's very hard to tell what Trump actually believes: has he shifted rightwards because that's really what he believes, or to fall in favour with the GOP base?
Ouch! This has got to hurt the Dems, and Hillary's campaign in particular:
"In an election for President of the United States, today, Labor Day, business provocateur Donald Trump narrowly defeats Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, Bernie Sanders and Al Gore, in head-to-head matchups, according to nationwide polling conducted by SurveyUSA.
"Today it's:
* Trump 45%, Clinton 40%. (There is a 20-point Gender Gap; Trump leads by 18 points among seniors.) * Trump 44%, Sanders 40%. (Trump leads by 10 among independents and by 6 among moderates.) * Trump 44%, Biden 42%. (Trump leads by 10 among the best educated; Biden leads by 17 among the least educated.) * Trump 44%, Gore 41%. (Trump leads by 12 among men and by 18 among voters age 50+.)
Among a subset of registered voters who tell SurveyUSA that they pay "a lot" of attention to politics, the scale tilts to the right: Today it's:
I can't believe Americans are seriously going to vote for Trump as POTUS.
The world has gone mad.
Interestingly on some matters like healthcare (Trump has praised the Scottish system) and the tax code Trump has been left of most Republicans in his statements, it is on immigration that he really takes a hard right line
Yes, Trump seems to have had some liberal views in the past - more than a decade ago he was pro-choice - and now he's moved the pro-life position of the Republicans. It's very hard to tell what Trump actually believes: has he shifted rightwards because that's really what he believes, or to fall in favour with the GOP base?
Undoubtedly the latter, he is basically a richer, even more brash version of Nigel Farage!
I think they do ( French aside possibly ) but thus far I don't think they're taking the possibility of us actually going seriously.'
I think they are seriously underestimating the volatility of the electorate as seen in last year's Scottish referendum,the GE this year and the Labour leadership election.
Keep calm bitches, this time last year (well technically tomorrow) we had a poll with Yes ahead in the Indyref
Well if we do leave the EU we will certainly lose Scotland this time, but it will be the rest of the UK who will have kicked them out by default, knowing that voting to quit the EU means losing our northern neighbours too (Scotland almost certainly voting Yes)
The English could do anything, and that would be used as justification by the SNP for another indyref!
Yes, but Sturgeon has made clear EU exit would be a 'change in circumstances' which could trigger indyref2
Sturgeon does not have the authority to call Indy Ref 2.
All she can do is run a big opinion poll without the say so of the UK Government.
If the UK votes to quit the EU though she will demand Scotland be allowed to stay in the EU regardless of whether the rUK leaves or not
Maybe.
But how long will that take and will the dog's breakfast the SNP are making of Scotland have come home t o roost yet?
You can only starve your education and health systems of resources for so long before the people notice.
Indeed, but it does not seem to be being noticed much at the moment
Your estimate of the answer to my question?
Based on Quebec's experience, 15-20 years
Interesting.
I am 10-15 based on the longest it has taken UK Govts to sour, plus 5-10 extra because the opposition in Scotland is split plus the referendum emotional boost, which makes it 15-25 from 2007.
Ouch! This has got to hurt the Dems, and Hillary's campaign in particular:
"In an election for President of the United States, today, Labor Day, business provocateur Donald Trump narrowly defeats Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, Bernie Sanders and Al Gore, in head-to-head matchups, according to nationwide polling conducted by SurveyUSA.
"Today it's:
* Trump 45%, Clinton 40%. (There is a 20-point Gender Gap; Trump leads by 18 points among seniors.) * Trump 44%, Sanders 40%. (Trump leads by 10 among independents and by 6 among moderates.) * Trump 44%, Biden 42%. (Trump leads by 10 among the best educated; Biden leads by 17 among the least educated.) * Trump 44%, Gore 41%. (Trump leads by 12 among men and by 18 among voters age 50+.)
Among a subset of registered voters who tell SurveyUSA that they pay "a lot" of attention to politics, the scale tilts to the right: Today it's:
I can't believe Americans are seriously going to vote for Trump as POTUS.
The world has gone mad.
Interestingly on some matters like healthcare (Trump has praised the Scottish system) and the tax code Trump has been left of most Republicans in his statements, it is on immigration that he really takes a hard right line
Yes, Trump seems to have had some liberal views in the past - more than a decade ago he was pro-choice - and now he's moved the pro-life position of the Republicans. It's very hard to tell what Trump actually believes: has he shifted rightwards because that's really what he believes, or to fall in favour with the GOP base?
Undoubtedly the latter, he is basically a richer, even more brash version of Nigel Farage!
The difference between Trump and Farage in that though, is that Farage's views are genuine.
Ouch! This has got to hurt the Dems, and Hillary's campaign in particular:
"In an election for President of the United States, today, Labor Day, business provocateur Donald Trump narrowly defeats Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, Bernie Sanders and Al Gore, in head-to-head matchups, according to nationwide polling conducted by SurveyUSA.
"Today it's:
* Trump 45%, Clinton 40%. (There is a 20-point Gender Gap; Trump leads by 18 points among seniors.) * Trump 44%, Sanders 40%. (Trump leads by 10 among independents and by 6 among moderates.) * Trump 44%, Biden 42%. (Trump leads by 10 among the best educated; Biden leads by 17 among the least educated.) * Trump 44%, Gore 41%. (Trump leads by 12 among men and by 18 among voters age 50+.)
Among a subset of registered voters who tell SurveyUSA that they pay "a lot" of attention to politics, the scale tilts to the right: Today it's:
I can't believe Americans are seriously going to vote for Trump as POTUS.
The world has gone mad.
Interestingly on some matters like healthcare (Trump has praised the Scottish system) and the tax code Trump has been left of most Republicans in his statements, it is on immigration that he really takes a hard right line
Yes, Trump seems to have had some liberal views in the past - more than a decade ago he was pro-choice - and now he's moved the pro-life position of the Republicans. It's very hard to tell what Trump actually believes: has he shifted rightwards because that's really what he believes, or to fall in favour with the GOP base?
Undoubtedly the latter, he is basically a richer, even more brash version of Nigel Farage!
The difference between Trump and Farage in that though, is that Farage's views are genuine.
Maybe, but then The Donald is the King of Reality TV on The Apprentice! Night
Keep calm bitches, this time last year (well technically tomorrow) we had a poll with Yes ahead in the Indyref
Well if we do leave the EU we will certainly lose Scotland this time, but it will be the rest of the UK who will have kicked them out by default, knowing that voting to quit the EU means losing our northern neighbours too (Scotland almost certainly voting Yes)
The English could do anything, and that would be used as justification by the SNP for another indyref!
Yes, but Sturgeon has made clear EU exit would be a 'change in circumstances' which could trigger indyref2
Sturgeon does not have the authority to call Indy Ref 2.
All she can do is run a big opinion poll without the say so of the UK Government.
If the UK votes to quit the EU though she will demand Scotland be allowed to stay in the EU regardless of whether the rUK leaves or not
Maybe.
But how long will that take and will the dog's breakfast the SNP are making of Scotland have come home t o roost yet?
You can only starve your education and health systems of resources for so long before the people notice.
Indeed, but it does not seem to be being noticed much at the moment
Your estimate of the answer to my question?
Based on Quebec's experience, 15-20 years
Interesting.
I am 10-15 based on the longest it has taken UK Govts to sour, plus 5-10 extra because the opposition in Scotland is split plus the referendum emotional boost, which makes it 15-25 from 2007.
(OT) The extremely gorgeous handsome beautiful actor Skandar Keynes is also extremely intelligent and intellectual, and accordingly has contributed to researching and writing a report from the UNHCR about Syrian refugees in Jordan.
Jim Messina is moving on. After helping Obama and Cameron win, he is backing the Social Democrats to beat Merkel. I'm not so sure his magic will be up to that task:
Keep calm bitches, this time last year (well technically tomorrow) we had a poll with Yes ahead in the Indyref
Well if we do leave the EU we will certainly lose Scotland this time, but it will be the rest of the UK who will have kicked them out by default, knowing that voting to quit the EU means losing our northern neighbours too (Scotland almost certainly voting Yes)
The English could do anything, and that would be used as justification by the SNP for another indyref!
Yes, but Sturgeon has made clear EU exit would be a 'change in circumstances' which could trigger indyref2
Sturgeon does not have the authority to call Indy Ref 2.
All she can do is run a big opinion poll without the say so of the UK Government.
If the UK votes to quit the EU though she will demand Scotland be allowed to stay in the EU regardless of whether the rUK leaves or not
Maybe. She can demand all kinds of things, for example that they could keep the pound with no consequences, or any of the other varied fantasies tehy put forward last time.
But how long will that all take and will the dog's breakfast the SNP are making of Scotland have come home t o roost yet?
You can only starve your education and health systems of resources for so long before the people notice.
Have to add for posterity here that you are totally ignorant of any facet of life in Scotland yet pontificate on here as if you know something. Same brain again and you would be dangerous.
Keep calm bitches, this time last year (well technically tomorrow) we had a poll with Yes ahead in the Indyref
Well if we do leave the EU we will certainly lose Scotland this time, but it will be the rest of the UK who will have kicked them out by default, knowing that voting to quit the EU means losing our northern neighbours too (Scotland almost certainly voting Yes)
The English could do anything, and that would be used as justification by the SNP for another indyref!
Yes, but Sturgeon has made clear EU exit would be a 'change in circumstances' which could trigger indyref2
Sturgeon does not have the authority to call Indy Ref 2.
All she can do is run a big opinion poll without the say so of the UK Government.
If the UK votes to quit the EU though she will demand Scotland be allowed to stay in the EU regardless of whether the rUK leaves or not
Maybe. She can demand all kinds of things, for example that they could keep the pound with no consequences, or any of the other varied fantasies tehy put forward last time.
But how long will that all take and will the dog's breakfast the SNP are making of Scotland have come home to roost yet?
You can only starve your education and health systems of resources for so long before the people notice.
Have to add for posterity here that you are totally ignorant of any facet of life in Scotland yet pontificate on here as if you know something. Same brain again and you would be dangerous.
Also for posterity.
Keep up the abuse, Malc; I'll keep sticking to facts.
The IFS on SNP management of the NHS in Scotland:
2. Between 2009-10 and 2015-16 spending on the NHS in England will, on currently announced plans, have risen by about 4% in real terms despite an overall fall of 13% in English departmental spending.
3. Over the same period the vagaries of the Barnett formula mean that Scotland will have had to cut overall public service spending by less – by about 8% rather than 13%. But the Scottish government has chosen to protect the NHS in Scotland slightly less than it has been protected in England. Spending on the NHS in Scotland has fallen by 1%.
Comments
These are unpredictable times.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/jan/28/british-dream-europe-african-citizens
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_presidential_race.html
Personally, I'd be delighted.
Bed time - night all.
But that assumes the remainder of the EU still care whether we stay or not.
Sleep well.
Right, I must do some sack hitting myself. Goodnight.
And organised violent crime is rife. There's a level of hardness you acquire from being a young soldier that is so far off the scale what you would normally see in civilisation. Utter pure brutality. Violence without hesitation of conscience.
'In the end I think it will be a narrow In, but as this poll shows Cameron does need to get a reasonable renegotiation to ensure it
Think voters are now waking up to the fact that if you really are concerned about immigration then the only option is to leave the EU.
Good night all.
Completely hare-brained.
I'm also disturbed by reports that the In side will be allowed to spend a lot more money than the Out side. That's not fair at all.
* Outside the country being outside the US in this instance.
I've just had an email from a bloke in Nigeria saying if I send some dough via Western union he will send me more back
Also, my auntie, a 20st unemployed layabout, has met a bloke from the Ivory Coast that is 14 years younger than her and fit as a fiddle. He says he loves her and she's been so lonely since uncle died and left her all that money... I think he is going to propose
Any advice?
However, while 60% of Americans have not left N America, with 28% having gone to Europe (the most visited foreign continent) a majority of Britons have not left Europe either, with 56% of Britons never having visited North America (Britons most visited foreign continent)
https://today.yougov.com/news/2014/11/20/no-travel-please/
I think they do ( French aside possibly ) but thus far I don't think they're taking the possibility of us actually going seriously.'
I think they are seriously underestimating the volatility of the electorate as seen in last year's Scottish referendum,the GE this year and the Labour leadership election.
Merkel could win it for the 'No' campaign
I am 10-15 based on the longest it has taken UK Govts to sour, plus 5-10 extra because the opposition in Scotland is split plus the referendum emotional boost, which makes it 15-25 from 2007.
http://www.thelocal.de/20150905/palestinian-teen-given-residency-permit
Just like South Africa had to...
Nothing "vile" about it at all.
http://unhcr.org/jordan2014urbanreport/home-visit-report.pdf
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/obama-insider-jim-messina-wants-to-beat-angela-merkel-a-1051358.html
Keep up the abuse, Malc; I'll keep sticking to facts.
The IFS on SNP management of the NHS in Scotland: Link:http://www.ifs.org.uk/publications/7366
I don't think I really need to rehearse the evidential inexactitudes throughout the Scottish Govt Independence White Paper again.
And so on.
I'm done here.