At some point, one of these seriously right wing populist parties is going to take power in a European country, especially as the immigration crisis escalates. And then....
"A guy named Adolf Hitler won an election in 1932. He won an election, and 50 million people died as a result of that election in World War II, including 6 million Jews. So what I learned as a little kid is that politics is, in fact, very important.”
- Bernie Sanders.
For a given value of 'won' - most seats and most votes, but very far short of being able to form a government especially as the Reichstag was more or less moribund by 1932.
It was the intriguing of Papen and Oscar Hindenburg that made Hitler Chancellor, not the election results. One thought though - they intended to use him to harness the popular support he was whipping up for their own ends. Now, is there any possible parallel with that today?
I think it used to be pronounced 'Rye-gar' in Oxford English. Many other pronunciations have changed since that disappeared - e.g. Hark The Herald Angels sing, verse 2, 'come' and 'womb' are included as a rhyme, even though they no longer rhyme in most English accents.
" If he does not, it will not be long before he establishes “Operation Plantagenet” to determine Richard III’s involvement in the murder of the Princes in the Tower of London."
Scottish Labour's public services spokesman Dr Richard Simpson said: "NHS staff work round the clock to provide the care Scots need but it is becoming increasingly clear that they are facing an uphill struggle because the SNP have squeezed health spending in Scotland harder than even the Tories in England.
My parents had a guest from Switzerland recently. As luck would have it he had a heart attack. Took him to NHS hospital in Aberdeen - treated brilliantly, operation to put stents in his arteries. No charge. They're not in the EU. The NHS prefers to treat the world and then just ask the Government for more money.
The NHS are VERY quick at chasing up payment from those not entitled to free treatment.
Friend from Guernsey involved in a life threatening accident in the UK - NHS A&E brilliant - but after things settled down, asked where the bill (by then in the hundreds of thousands) should be sent.....fortunately employer ponyed up...
Ms Vance, was this in Scotland. That the contrary example was could be relevant.
Couldn't it?
Ah so it's just racism.
Despite the SHS having consistently better outcomes over the years than the NHS in E&W it is somehow completely incompetent.
At some point, one of these seriously right wing populist parties is going to take power in a European country, especially as the immigration crisis escalates. And then....
"A guy named Adolf Hitler won an election in 1932. He won an election, and 50 million people died as a result of that election in World War II, including 6 million Jews. So what I learned as a little kid is that politics is, in fact, very important.”
- Bernie Sanders.
For a given value of 'won' - most seats and most votes, but very far short of being able to form a government especially as the Reichstag was more or less moribund by 1932.
It was the intriguing of Papen and Oscar Hindenburg that made Hitler Chancellor, not the election results. One thought though - they intended to use him to harness the popular support he was whipping up for their own ends. Now, is there any possible parallel with that today?
Details of the "purge" via the Guardian: Of those initially excluded for not being genuine supporters (and sent to a panel for review) - this doesn't include those refused for not being on the electoral register:
Total ruled ineligible – 3,138 (of which RS [registered supporters] 1,972, AS [affiliated supporters] 748 and Members 418).
Those deemed eligible – 144 (some decisions still pending).
More than half of those so far excluded are Green party members. Approximately, of those found to be ineligible, 400 are members or supporters of the Conservatives and 1,900 members or supporters of the Green Party.
Seems reasonable, even though the occasional anomaly will slip through - cerainly unlikely to provide a basis for a legal challenge to the outcome.
The fact that *full* membership has gone up by 60% since May is more interesting. For better or worse, CLPs will change significantly if lots of these people get involved. Labour membership is now roughly three times the size of Tory membership, though the election showed the limits of just chucking human waves of leaflets and volunteers.
Nearly all these members are going to be nutters, Trots, SWPers, Stop the War hipsters with Tourettes, mad people, really mad people, Islamists, Respect members, Holocaust deniers, homeless Marxists, antisemites, TUSC members, 17 year olds, econazis, and cats.
This is the new Labour party. The surge in members is not a boon for Labour, its a catastrophe. Your party is about to swing wildly to the far left, after badly losing an election because it was too leftwing already.
Abandon Hope All Ye Who Entry Here...
And, they're the most sane. You'll also get rustlers, cut throats, murderers, bounty hunters, desperados, mugs, pugs, thugs, nitwits, halfwits, dimwits, vipers, snipers, con men, Indian agents, Mexican bandits, muggers, buggerers, bushwhackers, hornswogglers, horse thieves, bull dykes, train robbers, bank robbers, ass-kickers, shit-kickers and Methodists
If Fox News are coming out against Corbyn, is it time to warm to him?
Improbable though it may seem Jonathan, there are times when even Fox News are correct!
What's more remarkable is that Murdoch has backed Corbyn and now pretty much his entire media empire have started savaging him. Very odd. Either Murdoch has lost control, or he's trying to hedge his bets somehow. But if it's the latter, he's not making a very good job of it - tactically, the other way around would have been not merely better but a whole lot more plausible.
I would say Murdoch does not have complete control of his staff.
The same thing happened with the Telegraph. The Barclay brothers gave UKIP a free double page advert and the staff being loyal Tories countered it by running on the front page a quote from a Tory MP warning against voting UKIP as they will destroy the country.
The whole statement needs to be read. It is a riveting read. And some names have been named (albeit by someone who is passionately seeking to clear his own name).
"I was asked if I could recognise images of the pen knife mentioned earlier. It was suggested it was Edward Heath who persuaded me not to castrate “Nick” with it. I was obviously so persuaded by Mr Heath’s intervention that I placed the pen knife in “Nick’s” pocket ready for him to present it to the Metropolitan police over 30 years later as “evidence”.
TBH the most significant point is that he was not interviewed as a suspect.
On the subject of Harvey Proctor's statement, it's a pretty brutal read - not just the offences, but the counter-charges. In particular, the suggestion that the commander of the inquiry plus that one from Wiltshire are suffering from mental illness is one that will not have been well-received by the Met or indeed the Home Office. It would also be interesting to know whether he is contemplating a private action for defamation against the officer who stated without reservation that these allegations are true - it sounds as though he is.
What we really need is strict anonymity for suspects until or unless they are charged - possibly even until they are brought to court. I know there is this, 'oh, but other people come forward' line but I regard that as nonsensical. If a case is strong enough to stick on its own merits, then other cases are not needed. If it isn't, then it should not be being bolstered by several other weak cases in the hope of getting a verdict on a sort of proportional representation principle. Moreover, it's hard to imagine it doesn't prejudice the trial itself even with sub judice protection (increasingly meaningless in the days of the internet).
He is also quite correct about Watson of course, relentlessly exploiting these allegations against Conservatives yet curiously silent on the allegations against serving Labour MPs. Most unedifying, even though it may be effective politics. Also, extremely dangerous for the Labour party.
The whole statement needs to be read. It is a riveting read. And some names have been named (albeit by someone who is passionately seeking to clear his own name).
"I was asked if I could recognise images of the pen knife mentioned earlier. It was suggested it was Edward Heath who persuaded me not to castrate “Nick” with it. I was obviously so persuaded by Mr Heath’s intervention that I placed the pen knife in “Nick’s” pocket ready for him to present it to the Metropolitan police over 30 years later as “evidence”.
TBH the most significant point is that he was not interviewed as a suspect.
You really do get the impression the police are overcompensating.
" If he does not, it will not be long before he establishes “Operation Plantagenet” to determine Richard III’s involvement in the murder of the Princes in the Tower of London."
OK, I'm a bad man, I giggled at that.
Who wants to put more blame on the shoulders of a much maligned historical hero of mine? Discracefull! The disappearance of the two princes is still a mystery; maybe their bodies will be found under another car park, or mayhap an ancient pub of that name.
Scottish Labour's public services spokesman Dr Richard Simpson said: "NHS staff work round the clock to provide the care Scots need but it is becoming increasingly clear that they are facing an uphill struggle because the SNP have squeezed health spending in Scotland harder than even the Tories in England.
My parents had a guest from Switzerland recently. As luck would have it he had a heart attack. Took him to NHS hospital in Aberdeen - treated brilliantly, operation to put stents in his arteries. No charge. They're not in the EU. The NHS prefers to treat the world and then just ask the Government for more money.
The NHS are VERY quick at chasing up payment from those not entitled to free treatment.
Friend from Guernsey involved in a life threatening accident in the UK - NHS A&E brilliant - but after things settled down, asked where the bill (by then in the hundreds of thousands) should be sent.....fortunately employer ponyed up...
Ms Vance, was this in Scotland. That the contrary example was could be relevant.
Couldn't it?
Ah so it's just racism.
Despite the SHS having consistently better outcomes over the years than the NHS in E&W it is somehow completely incompetent.
Grow up, kid.
I suggest when you do, you might learn to read. My post was (mildy) complimentary to the SHS, not critical.
In fact both the last two posters were postive about SHS.
I don't think you would have had that many made up names among the 3 quid members because they had to pay by credit card. How many people have a credit card issued to a fake name?
Well, various cats and llamas seemed to manage it!
Presumably, though, the affiliates would be real union members rather than made-up names (if not, there might be an even bigger scandal lurking here).
According to stats I found 13% of the UK population are migrants. Moreover, 7 million British citizens are not on the electoral register (12%). If these numbers are reflected in the makeup of union membership then this may account for the large number of affiliate voters that were removed from the list. This will surely hurt Corbyn who will have done well with foreigners (being pro-immigration) and British citizens who are not on the electoral register, especially the latter.
I don't think you would have had that many made up names among the 3 quid members because they had to pay by credit card. How many people have a credit card issued to a fake name?
Well, various cats and llamas seemed to manage it!
Presumably, though, the affiliates would be real union members rather than made-up names (if not, there might be an even bigger scandal lurking here).
According to stats I found 13% of the UK population are migrants. Moreover, 7 million British citizens are not on the electoral register (12%). If these numbers are reflected in the makeup of union membership then this may account for the large numbers of affiliates that were removed from the list of voters. The removal of persons not on the electoral register will surely hurt Corbyn.
" If he does not, it will not be long before he establishes “Operation Plantagenet” to determine Richard III’s involvement in the murder of the Princes in the Tower of London."
OK, I'm a bad man, I giggled at that.
Who wants to put more blame on the shoulders of a much maligned historical hero of mine? Discracefull! The disappearance of the two princes is still a mystery; maybe their bodies will be found under another car park, or mayhap an ancient pub of that name.
Or maybe the skeletons tentatively identified as theirs and interred in Westminster Abbey will be DNA tested. Won't happen while Her Maj is still alive as she's very much against it. Prince Charles might suggest it again if he ever becomes King.
I've never heard of an ancient pub called 'The Car Park' - is it on the M25?
Scottish Labour's public services spokesman Dr Richard Simpson said: "NHS staff work round the clock to provide the care Scots need but it is becoming increasingly clear that they are facing an uphill struggle because the SNP have squeezed health spending in Scotland harder than even the Tories in England.
My parents had a guest from Switzerland recently. As luck would have it he had a heart attack. Took him to NHS hospital in Aberdeen - treated brilliantly, operation to put stents in his arteries. No charge. They're not in the EU. The NHS prefers to treat the world and then just ask the Government for more money.
The NHS are VERY quick at chasing up payment from those not entitled to free treatment.
Friend from Guernsey involved in a life threatening accident in the UK - NHS A&E brilliant - but after things settled down, asked where the bill (by then in the hundreds of thousands) should be sent.....fortunately employer ponyed up...
Ms Vance, was this in Scotland. That the contrary example was could be relevant.
Couldn't it?
Despite the SHS having consistently better outcomes over the years than the NHS in E&W
" If he does not, it will not be long before he establishes “Operation Plantagenet” to determine Richard III’s involvement in the murder of the Princes in the Tower of London."
OK, I'm a bad man, I giggled at that.
Who wants to put more blame on the shoulders of a much maligned historical hero of mine? Discracefull! The disappearance of the two princes is still a mystery; maybe their bodies will be found under another car park, or mayhap an ancient pub of that name.
Or maybe the skeletons tentatively identified as theirs and interred in Westminster Abbey will be DNA tested. Won't happen while Her Maj is still alive as she's very much against it. Prince Charles might suggest it again if he ever becomes King.
I've never heard of an ancient pub called 'The Car Park' - is it on the M25?
If it's the CIA Plato, as long as they are following you, you're probably OK. It's when they start following somebody in your immediate area who looks nothing like you that you need to be worried.
Scottish Labour's public services spokesman Dr Richard Simpson said: "NHS staff work round the clock to provide the care Scots need but it is becoming increasingly clear that they are facing an uphill struggle because the SNP have squeezed health spending in Scotland harder than even the Tories in England.
My parents had a guest from Switzerland recently. As luck would have it he had a heart attack. Took him to NHS hospital in Aberdeen - treated brilliantly, operation to put stents in his arteries. No charge. They're not in the EU. The NHS prefers to treat the world and then just ask the Government for more money.
The NHS are VERY quick at chasing up payment from those not entitled to free treatment.
Friend from Guernsey involved in a life threatening accident in the UK - NHS A&E brilliant - but after things settled down, asked where the bill (by then in the hundreds of thousands) should be sent.....fortunately employer ponyed up...
Ms Vance, was this in Scotland. That the contrary example was could be relevant.
Couldn't it?
Despite the SHS having consistently better outcomes over the years than the NHS in E&W
Link?
You could always start with Life Expectancy.....
For a start, the "NHS in E&W" is not a thing - NHS Wales is as separate from NHS England as NHS Scotland is (and HSC-NI).
I think the Kendall abuse is terrible. And I had a feeling you'd mention feminists in regard to calling women harridans!
Personally, I think gendered insults in general should be avoided.
Heh. Quite happy in general to identify as an anti-feminist, but we may have differing circles on the Venn diagram....
I'm afraid I'm not a big fan of anti-feminists myself - which is probably why I as far as equality of the sexes goes, usually me and those on the Right don't get on.
I didn't say anything about censoring language, simply that I think gendered insults should be avoided. As for someone finding something unacceptable now, there are just general words that society finds unacceptable in general. For example, there's a reason why spastic is now considered unacceptable - it's because of the change in attitude towards those who are disabled. I don't see it as an in-fashion thing at all, but simply that we're becoming (slowly) more reflective of how we use language and what it means. I also don't agree it's just gesture politics. I think the change in the language we use is often a part of addressing an underlying issue. For instance, slut is a gendered insult. It's a word that reflects the double-standards in a woman's sex life, versus a man's sexual life.
And while language may be used to simply marginalize opposition in certain cases, I also think we can use our own nuances, and judge the situation appropriately to decide whether that truly is the case.
I also reject your spastic case. I have never heard anyone use the word 'scopey' in my life. I'd wager the vast majority of people probably couldn't even recognise what SCOPE was, or what it does.
On mainsplaining, while I don't the like word, I understand the logic behind it.
I don't think you would have had that many made up names among the 3 quid members because they had to pay by credit card. How many people have a credit card issued to a fake name?
Well, various cats and llamas seemed to manage it!
Presumably, though, the affiliates would be real union members rather than made-up names (if not, there might be an even bigger scandal lurking here).
According to stats I found 13% of the UK population are migrants. Moreover, 7 million British citizens are not on the electoral register (12%). If these numbers are reflected in the makeup of union membership then this may account for the large numbers of affiliates that were removed from the list of voters. The removal of persons not on the electoral register will surely hurt Corbyn.
That would include me - but I've been a full British Citizen since 1988, so there
I am mildly encouraged that Labour PBers appear to be voting Creasy for deputy (as I did). If there is, as seems distinctly possible, some kind of Corbyn implosion/ resignation/ defenestration in a couple of years' time, the process of starting to clean up the mess is going to be a big job. And I'd certainly have a lot more confidence in her ability to bring the party back to sanity than I would in Watson's.
At some point, one of these seriously right wing populist parties is going to take power in a European country, especially as the immigration crisis escalates. And then....
"A guy named Adolf Hitler won an election in 1932. He won an election, and 50 million people died as a result of that election in World War II, including 6 million Jews. So what I learned as a little kid is that politics is, in fact, very important.”
- Bernie Sanders.
For a given value of 'won' - most seats and most votes, but very far short of being able to form a government especially as the Reichstag was more or less moribund by 1932.
It was the intriguing of Papen and Oscar Hindenburg that made Hitler Chancellor, not the election results. One thought though - they intended to use him to harness the popular support he was whipping up for their own ends. Now, is there any possible parallel with that today?
I don't think you would have had that many made up names among the 3 quid members because they had to pay by credit card. How many people have a credit card issued to a fake name?
Well, various cats and llamas seemed to manage it!
Presumably, though, the affiliates would be real union members rather than made-up names (if not, there might be an even bigger scandal lurking here).
According to stats I found 13% of the UK population are migrants. Moreover, 7 million British citizens are not on the electoral register (12%). If these numbers are reflected in the makeup of union membership then this may account for the large numbers of affiliates that were removed from the list of voters. The removal of persons not on the electoral register will surely hurt Corbyn.
That would include me - but I've been a full British Citizen since 1988, so there
And my wife, full British citizen since 2006 - and strangely she didn't divorce me once she'd got the passport!
The Labour Party has tolerated the rot for far too long, and now the whole structure is collapsing. I'm glad there is some justice in this world.
To be fair, the Labour Party tried very hard to eradicate the rot over many years, and were almost successful. Unfortunately they left a few spores in a forgotten corner of their backbenches and one of these has sprouted into a monstrous growth which is now engulfing them.
People like Corbyn should have been de-selected as MPs.
That's roughly what I took JEO's post to mean, Mr Apocalypse. That the Labour party should have actively got rid of these weirdos when it had the chance - and because it had a sneaking regard for them, didn't and is now paying the price.
It is of course a disaster from the point of view of having an effective opposition.
Why does everyone think I'm a bloke?
On Labour, I doubt Mandelson, Campbell, Blair and Brown had a sneaking regard for people like Corbyn. Rather, after the Kinnock years I think they took things for granted and thought the hard left would never come back. But now it's back, when it gets defeated at the ballot box it'll be completely destroyed.
I think the default assumption is for posters to be male, given the ratio on here it is the most probable. It's especially difficult if you have non-gender specific handles
It's true that there is quite a lot of men on PB. The only female poster I can think of besides me, is Plato. I think men in general are more likely to be interested in politics, though. I wonder why that is?
The only female posters I can think of are Plato, Cyclefree, MrsB and fitalass
Since the unmentionable person has gone, is this site more female friendly?
I am mildly encouraged that Labour PBers appear to be voting Creasy for deputy (as I did). If there is, as seems distinctly possible, some kind of Corbyn implosion/ resignation/ defenestration in a couple of years' time, the process of starting to clean up the mess is going to be a big job. And I'd certainly have a lot more confidence in her ability to bring the party back to sanity than I would in Watson's.
I love Stella, but I don't have faith that she could stop Labour becoming some kind of hard-left platform. Whereas I do think Watson could, even though I dislike him intensely.
@ Ms Apocalypse: People assumed I was a man too for a number of years before they cottoned on. I think people assume that politics is only of interest to men. And one person commented that I had a masculine writing style, whatever that is.
@ Ms Apocalypse: People assumed I was a man too for a number of years before they cottoned on. I think people assume that politics is only of interest to men. And one person commented that I had a masculine writing style, whatever that is.
Tbf, I think generally it's men who are interested in politics, which does lead to the default assumption that a commentator is a man, rather than a woman. I think some PBers commented that I had/may have had a masculine writing style as well. @Plato linked to a website which analyses the gender of people's writing, and it said that my writing style was 74% male!
Stella Creasy got my 1st pref in the deputy contest.
Bottler.
There will be many others like him who talk big on Corbyn, but actually vote differently, thus invalidating the landslide conclusions of the opinion polls.
Corbyn will still win, but not totally knock it out the park, and it's probably this phenomena that accounts for his relatively long price on Betfair.
Yentob really has gone too far. "a document, emailed to civil servants in the name of Alan Yentob, chair of the charity's trustees, on 2 June. It warned that a sudden closure of the charity would mean a "high risk of arson attacks on government buildings". "
@DPJHodges: Any Corbyn supporters care to comment on this. http://t.co/fBE86RCryE Corbyn: "No one should be sharing a platform with an avowed racist"
It's no use. There are none so blind as those than don't want to see. And most of the Corbyn supporters don't want to see. The disingenuous and frankly dishonest explanations there have been for Corbyn's behaviour - not least from him - are proof of that. It's no different to the mental gymnastics people indulged in when trying to justify their support for the Soviet Union or earlier for Germany.
A lot of people believe what they want to believe. Not what the facts tell them.
Scottish Labour's public services spokesman Dr Richard Simpson said: "NHS staff work round the clock to provide the care Scots need but it is becoming increasingly clear that they are facing an uphill struggle because the SNP have squeezed health spending in Scotland harder than even the Tories in England.
My parents had a guest from Switzerland recently. As luck would have it he had a heart attack. Took him to NHS hospital in Aberdeen - treated brilliantly, operation to put stents in his arteries. No charge. They're not in the EU. The NHS prefers to treat the world and then just ask the Government for more money.
The NHS are VERY quick at chasing up payment from those not entitled to free treatment.
Friend from Guernsey involved in a life threatening accident in the UK - NHS A&E brilliant - but after things settled down, asked where the bill (by then in the hundreds of thousands) should be sent.....fortunately employer ponyed up...
Ms Vance, was this in Scotland. That the contrary example was could be relevant.
Couldn't it?
Ah so it's just racism.
Despite the SHS having consistently better outcomes over the years than the NHS in E&W it is somehow completely incompetent.
Grow up, kid.
I suggest when you do, you might learn to read. My post was (mildy) complimentary to the SHS, not critical.
In fact both the last two posters were postive about SHS.
I see the bunch of bumbling incompetents at the Chilcot Inquiry have delayed their report for so long that parts are already leaking out - and those leaks will set the narrative, rather than the report itself.
Payments to these bumbling incompetents should be stopped immediately, and the report released, in full, as it is. Partial leaks are just going to further devalue an increasingly devalued report.
Bumbling incompetents is really too forgiving a term: I'm trying to think of another which, whilst polite, would express their sheer nincompoopery and stupidity.
An example of the second item is how when "spastic" became unacceptable, the Spastics Society renamed themselves "SCOPE". The next thing that happened was that "a bit scopey" became an adjective that replaced "a bit spastic". It doesn't work.
You've reminded me that troops nicknamed Falkland Islanders "Bennys" after their supposed mental similarities with Benny the retarded bloke from Crossroads. This was banned because apparently it was offensive. They were henceforth known to us as "Stills".
I see the bunch of bumbling incompetents at the Chilcot Inquiry have delayed their report for so long that parts are already leaking out - and those leaks will set the narrative, rather than the report itself.
Payments to these bumbling incompetents should be stopped immediately, and the report released, in full, as it is. Partial leaks are just going to further devalue an increasingly devalued report.
Bumbling incompetents is really too forgiving a term: I'm trying to think of another which, whilst polite, would express their sheer nincompoopery and stupidity.
@ Ms Apocalypse: People assumed I was a man too for a number of years before they cottoned on. I think people assume that politics is only of interest to men. And one person commented that I had a masculine writing style, whatever that is.
Tbf, I think generally it's men who are interested in politics, which does lead to the default assumption that a commentator is a man, rather than a woman.
I think men are generally more likely, or perceived as more likely, to be the sort of obsessive weirdos who post on message boards about things as well, doubly so when its local election results, polling subsamples and which ancient historical event and 80s pop tune current politics is like.
I see the bunch of bumbling incompetents at the Chilcot Inquiry have delayed their report for so long that parts are already leaking out - and those leaks will set the narrative, rather than the report itself.
Payments to these bumbling incompetents should be stopped immediately, and the report released, in full, as it is. Partial leaks are just going to further devalue an increasingly devalued report.
Bumbling incompetents is really too forgiving a term: I'm trying to think of another which, whilst polite, would express their sheer nincompoopery and stupidity.
How about Harmans ? As in
"You total Harman, you couldn't organise a leadership election in a Labour Party."
Other than Dan Hodges, who appears to have been on a bit of an emotional rollercoaster, I should think every political pundit in the country has been very grateful for this contest. What on earth got political wonks through last August, I cannot remember.
I also reject your spastic case. I have never heard anyone use the word 'scopey' in my life. I'd wager the vast majority of people probably couldn't even recognise what SCOPE was, or what it does.
Nonetheless it is real - I allege :-).
I'll address this first with a few references found without digging too hard. There's "scopey" and "scoper". They changed the name from Spastics Society to SCOPE in 1994, so perhaps not coincidental with your times or communities.
I think I also recall a discussion on Thinking Allowed by Laurie Taylor.
That's one example that the real issue is usually the concept not the word, and creating a language kaleidoscope every few years is (imo) a distraction.
I'm quite sceptical about the whole project - though I suppose it keeps some journalists and Diversity Officers in jobs.
Yentob really has gone too far. "a document, emailed to civil servants in the name of Alan Yentob, chair of the charity's trustees, on 2 June. It warned that a sudden closure of the charity would mean a "high risk of arson attacks on government buildings". "
The bloke is bonkers. KC doesn't have enough real clients to light a match, let alone government buildings!
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OK, I'm a bad man, I giggled at that.
Agree with you for the deputy though.
Despite the SHS having consistently better outcomes over the years than the NHS in E&W it is somehow completely incompetent.
Grow up, kid.
The same thing happened with the Telegraph. The Barclay brothers gave UKIP a free double page advert and the staff being loyal Tories countered it by running on the front page a quote from a Tory MP warning against voting UKIP as they will destroy the country.
TBH the most significant point is that he was not interviewed as a suspect.
What we really need is strict anonymity for suspects until or unless they are charged - possibly even until they are brought to court. I know there is this, 'oh, but other people come forward' line but I regard that as nonsensical. If a case is strong enough to stick on its own merits, then other cases are not needed. If it isn't, then it should not be being bolstered by several other weak cases in the hope of getting a verdict on a sort of proportional representation principle. Moreover, it's hard to imagine it doesn't prejudice the trial itself even with sub judice protection (increasingly meaningless in the days of the internet).
He is also quite correct about Watson of course, relentlessly exploiting these allegations against Conservatives yet curiously silent on the allegations against serving Labour MPs. Most unedifying, even though it may be effective politics. Also, extremely dangerous for the Labour party.
Discracefull! The disappearance of the two princes is still a mystery; maybe their bodies will be found under another car park, or mayhap an ancient pub of that name.
In fact both the last two posters were postive about SHS.
https://twitter.com/CIA/status/474971393852182528
I've never heard of an ancient pub called 'The Car Park' - is it on the M25?
You could always start with Life Expectancy.....
And with that, I'm off. Goodnight all.
I didn't say anything about censoring language, simply that I think gendered insults should be avoided. As for someone finding something unacceptable now, there are just general words that society finds unacceptable in general. For example, there's a reason why spastic is now considered unacceptable - it's because of the change in attitude towards those who are disabled. I don't see it as an in-fashion thing at all, but simply that we're becoming (slowly) more reflective of how we use language and what it means. I also don't agree it's just gesture politics. I think the change in the language we use is often a part of addressing an underlying issue. For instance, slut is a gendered insult. It's a word that reflects the double-standards in a woman's sex life, versus a man's sexual life.
And while language may be used to simply marginalize opposition in certain cases, I also think we can use our own nuances, and judge the situation appropriately to decide whether that truly is the case.
I also reject your spastic case. I have never heard anyone use the word 'scopey' in my life. I'd wager the vast majority of people probably couldn't even recognise what SCOPE was, or what it does.
On mainsplaining, while I don't the like word, I understand the logic behind it.
https://twitter.com/PlatoSays/status/636242148006998016
Don't forget that the Great Man out-Whigged the Whigs sometimes (e.g. electoral reform), though he never stole their clothes while they were bathing.
(Plus, of course, the "One Nation" slogan is no longer the property of any one party since Labour used it earlier in the year.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryvljjccqL8
Corbyn will still win, but not totally knock it out the park, and it's probably this phenomena that accounts for his relatively long price on Betfair.
"a document, emailed to civil servants in the name of Alan Yentob, chair of the charity's trustees, on 2 June. It warned that a sudden closure of the charity would mean a "high risk of arson attacks on government buildings". "
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/04/uk_cabinet_minister_recommends.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/06/09/sadiq-khan-birmingham-extremist-plot-muslim_n_5471818.html
I'm not sure that this is what we should be looking for in a Mayor of London. The refusal to confront Islamism is predictable and depressing.
Why so much later voting than others?
But BURNHAM? *titter*
A lot of people believe what they want to believe. Not what the facts tell them.
http://www.theguardian.com/stage/2015/aug/25/top-10-jokes-edinburgh-fringe-2015-dave
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-34039927
Payments to these bumbling incompetents should be stopped immediately, and the report released, in full, as it is. Partial leaks are just going to further devalue an increasingly devalued report.
Bumbling incompetents is really too forgiving a term: I'm trying to think of another which, whilst polite, would express their sheer nincompoopery and stupidity.
...because they were Still Bennys.
"You total Harman, you couldn't organise a leadership election in a Labour Party."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLpmswBKVN4
And Jolly decent of them to provide such top notch entertainment throughout the silly season.
new thread
I'll address this first with a few references found without digging too hard. There's "scopey" and "scoper". They changed the name from Spastics Society to SCOPE in 1994, so perhaps not coincidental with your times or communities.
Nick Cohen discussing "scopey" in Jan 2015:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2015/01/political-correctnes-how-censorship-defeats-itself/&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=LL3cVYHoBMW17gbG1K3QAg
Defined in Online Dictionary of Playground Slang:
http://www.odps.org/glossword/index.php?a=term&d=4&t=10019
Defined in Urban Dictionary:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=scopey
Guardian "In Other Words" column 2007:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2007/nov/23/inotherwords
Guardian: Catherine Bennett column 2011:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2011/oct/23/ricky-gervais-offensive-downs-syndrome
Discussed in the BBC "Ouch" Disability Podcast Episode 107 @ abhout 44:40. April 2014
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-ouch-26992779
I think I also recall a discussion on Thinking Allowed by Laurie Taylor.
That's one example that the real issue is usually the concept not the word, and creating a language kaleidoscope every few years is (imo) a distraction.
I'm quite sceptical about the whole project - though I suppose it keeps some journalists and Diversity Officers in jobs.