Fraser Nelson is a serious and likeable journalist, Iain Martin is rather pathetic and aging hack who pretends that he knows something about Scotland because back in the day he was wrecking The Scotsman as editor for Andrew Neil while David Maddox is an incompetent propagandist masquerading as a journalist because he can't get a job anywhere else.
Mr. Dair/Mr. G, the SNP didn't complain about Connery or Cumming supporting independence. Indeed, the SNP wanted a man who wasn't resident in Scotland to debate with Salmond on the matter.
MD, if your every post was anti Yorkshire or anti English I would wonder about you as well. Must be some saving grace.
MG Not yet.. in fact I think you are very funny..in an odd sort of way.
It is hard work on here , not many with a sense of humour, or able to pick up on subtle comments. You have to use a sledge hammer to get through, very tiring at times.
MG Not yet.. in fact I think you are very funny..in an odd sort of way.
It is hard work on here , not many with a sense of humour, or able to pick up on subtle comments. You have to use a sledge hammer to get through, very tiring at times.
You know the saying, cracking a turnip with a sledgehammer. Or something like that...
Some cracking historical tweets about from the time that Unionists thought Murphy was the Sun King incarnate.
David Maddox @DavidPBMaddox Dec 13 Looking at the hyperbolic, frenzied tweets from the cybernats tonight clearly the snp are scared sh**less of @jimmurphymp
Fraser Nelson @FraserNelson Dec 13 Great news about Jim Murphy. Blairites always were good at winning elections. Now let the restoration begin!
Iain Martin @iainmartin1 Dec 13 Nationalists trying to pretend election of @jimmurphymp is a disaster for Labour. It isn't. Good day for Labour, good day for the Union.
Meanwhile Iain Gray to be caretaker leader for SLAB. I'm guessing everyone's hyperbole buttons will be well muted.
This is proof the right aren't always the oracle when it comes to who Labour should elect as leader. Not that some right-wing twitter commentators can admit they are wrong, that is. I recall Tom Newton-Dunn's reaction to Murphy's departure. Jesus Christ. Talk about deluded.
And Fraser Nelson. I actually like him as political commentator (despite not agreeing with him all too much) but my god, as a Scot he should know that if Blairism is going to down badly anywhere, it's probably Scotland. Also Murphy is a personality vaccum.
Some cracking historical tweets about from the time that Unionists thought Murphy was the Sun King incarnate.
David Maddox @DavidPBMaddox Dec 13 Looking at the hyperbolic, frenzied tweets from the cybernats tonight clearly the snp are scared sh**less of @jimmurphymp
Fraser Nelson @FraserNelson Dec 13 Great news about Jim Murphy. Blairites always were good at winning elections. Now let the restoration begin!
Iain Martin @iainmartin1 Dec 13 Nationalists trying to pretend election of @jimmurphymp is a disaster for Labour. It isn't. Good day for Labour, good day for the Union.
Meanwhile Iain Gray to be caretaker leader for SLAB. I'm guessing everyone's hyperbole buttons will be well muted.
This is proof the right aren't always the oracle when it comes to who Labour should elect as leader. Not that some right-wing twitter commentators can admit they are wrong, that is. I recall Tom Newton-Dunn's reaction to Murphy's departure. Jesus Christ. Talk about deluded.
And Fraser Nelson. I actually like him as political commentator (despite not agreeing with him all too much) but my god, as a Scot he should know that if Blairism is going to down badly anywhere, it's probably Scotland. Also Murphy is a personality vaccum.
I was at school with Fraser Nelson, I doubt he has any understanding, at all, about what the average person in Scotland thinks.
Mr. Dair/Mr. G, the SNP didn't complain about Connery or Cumming supporting independence. Indeed, the SNP wanted a man who wasn't resident in Scotland to debate with Salmond on the matter.
I think, perhaps, you are still not getting it.
The SNP are a vehicle to Independence. What they do or do not is almost irrelevant. The goal is all that matters. The eyes are on the prize.
Nice try , go back to 1900 , Boer War , that should be clue enough for you.
Wrong again- try the Spanish in Cuba - doesn't fit with "Brits as bad as Nazis" does it?
Don't worry Carlotta, you've blown your load sitting in a tax haven while telling UK taxpayers what to do and what to think. You are now an official laughing stock.
No-one really cares who started concentration camps 100 years ago. The real question is why people who are not resident in the United Kingdom feel somehow empowered to tell those who are how to behave.
It is time you paid your way instead of mooching off others.
MG I am English.. Born in Cumberland..a persons place of birth does not necessarily limit the scope of their education or intelligence..except perhaps in your case.
When did you have your humour bypass
I think that the full quota for humour bypass for the UK is allocated to Scotland as part of the Barnett formula.
Fraser Nelson is a serious and likeable journalist, Iain Martin is rather pathetic and aging hack who pretends that he knows something about Scotland because back in the day he was wrecking The Scotsman as editor for Andrew Neil while David Maddox is an incompetent propagandist masquerading as a journalist because he can't get a job anywhere else.
The big mistake the bookies made was listening to all of these "political commentators", ignoring both polling and evidence from those of us on the ground in Scotland. At this point William Hill still had SLAB 0-5 seats at 125/1 for another 10 days:
Some cracking historical tweets about from the time that Unionists thought Murphy was the Sun King incarnate.
David Maddox @DavidPBMaddox Dec 13 Looking at the hyperbolic, frenzied tweets from the cybernats tonight clearly the snp are scared sh**less of @jimmurphymp
Fraser Nelson @FraserNelson Dec 13 Great news about Jim Murphy. Blairites always were good at winning elections. Now let the restoration begin!
Iain Martin @iainmartin1 Dec 13 Nationalists trying to pretend election of @jimmurphymp is a disaster for Labour. It isn't. Good day for Labour, good day for the Union.
Meanwhile Iain Gray to be caretaker leader for SLAB. I'm guessing everyone's hyperbole buttons will be well muted.
This is proof the right aren't always the oracle when it comes to who Labour should elect as leader. Not that some right-wing twitter commentators can admit they are wrong, that is. I recall Tom Newton-Dunn's reaction to Murphy's departure. Jesus Christ. Talk about deluded.
And Fraser Nelson. I actually like him as political commentator (despite not agreeing with him all too much) but my god, as a Scot he should know that if Blairism is going to down badly anywhere, it's probably Scotland. Also Murphy is a personality vaccum.
I was at school with Fraser Nelson, I doubt he has any understanding, at all, about what the average person in Scotland thinks.
MG I am English.. Born in Cumberland..a persons place of birth does not necessarily limit the scope of their education or intelligence..except perhaps in your case.
When did you have your humour bypass
I think that the full quota for humour bypass for the UK is allocated to Scotland as part of the Barnett formula.
Do you think if we give them #FFS they will suddenly all get a sense of humour?
Some cracking historical tweets about from the time that Unionists thought Murphy was the Sun King incarnate.
David Maddox @DavidPBMaddox Dec 13 Looking at the hyperbolic, frenzied tweets from the cybernats tonight clearly the snp are scared sh**less of @jimmurphymp
Fraser Nelson @FraserNelson Dec 13 Great news about Jim Murphy. Blairites always were good at winning elections. Now let the restoration begin!
Iain Martin @iainmartin1 Dec 13 Nationalists trying to pretend election of @jimmurphymp is a disaster for Labour. It isn't. Good day for Labour, good day for the Union.
Meanwhile Iain Gray to be caretaker leader for SLAB. I'm guessing everyone's hyperbole buttons will be well muted.
This is proof the right aren't always the oracle when it comes to who Labour should elect as leader. Not that some right-wing twitter commentators can admit they are wrong, that is. I recall Tom Newton-Dunn's reaction to Murphy's departure. Jesus Christ. Talk about deluded.
And Fraser Nelson. I actually like him as political commentator (despite not agreeing with him all too much) but my god, as a Scot he should know that if Blairism is going to down badly anywhere, it's probably Scotland. Also Murphy is a personality vaccum.
What shocked me more about reading that thread is Murphy was considered a contender to lead UK Labour! He'd actually be worse than Ed Miliband if he elected - he has zero charisma or electoral appeal at all. He doesn't even come across as prime ministerial. I suspect a number of people there were talking up Murphy purely because they agreed with his politics, more so than anything else. What seems more alarming is that quite a few a on thread appear to think that Scotland is a right-wing country whose political outlook is not that different to England. When if anything, it seems quite clear that the two countries have vastly different political perspectives.
Fraser Nelson is a serious and likeable journalist, Iain Martin is rather pathetic and aging hack who pretends that he knows something about Scotland because back in the day he was wrecking The Scotsman as editor for Andrew Neil while David Maddox is an incompetent propagandist masquerading as a journalist because he can't get a job anywhere else.
The big mistake the bookies made was listening to all of these "political commentators", ignoring both polling and evidence from those of us on the ground in Scotland. At this point William Hill still had SLAB 0-5 seats at 125/1 for another 10 days:
Do you think a different choice of leader could have materially affected the result?
I think the Tories choice of Davidson helped steady their ship - but I doubt anyone could have defended Labour against Sturgeon's onslaught (I think Eck would have fared less well..)
Some cracking historical tweets about from the time that Unionists thought Murphy was the Sun King incarnate.
David Maddox @DavidPBMaddox Dec 13 Looking at the hyperbolic, frenzied tweets from the cybernats tonight clearly the snp are scared sh**less of @jimmurphymp
Fraser Nelson @FraserNelson Dec 13 Great news about Jim Murphy. Blairites always were good at winning elections. Now let the restoration begin!
Iain Martin @iainmartin1 Dec 13 Nationalists trying to pretend election of @jimmurphymp is a disaster for Labour. It isn't. Good day for Labour, good day for the Union.
Meanwhile Iain Gray to be caretaker leader for SLAB. I'm guessing everyone's hyperbole buttons will be well muted.
This is proof the right aren't always the oracle when it comes to who Labour should elect as leader. Not that some right-wing twitter commentators can admit they are wrong, that is. I recall Tom Newton-Dunn's reaction to Murphy's departure. Jesus Christ. Talk about deluded.
And Fraser Nelson. I actually like him as political commentator (despite not agreeing with him all too much) but my god, as a Scot he should know that if Blairism is going to down badly anywhere, it's probably Scotland. Also Murphy is a personality vaccum.
What shocked me more about reading that thread is Murphy was considered a contender to lead UK Labour! He'd actually be worse than Ed Miliband if he elected - he has zero charisma or electoral appeal at all. He doesn't even come across as prime ministerial. I suspect a number of people there were talking up Murphy purely because they agreed with his politics, more so than anything else. What seems more alarming is that quite a few a on thread appear to think that Scotland is a right-wing country whose political outlook is not that different to England. When if anything, it seems quite clear that the two countries have vastly different political perspectives.
I was at school with Fraser Nelson, I doubt he has any understanding, at all, about what the average person in Scotland thinks.
Really? What was Nelson like at a school (if I may ask)?
I think that polling independent of party on various socio-economic issues show the Scots as only marginally more left wing than the English.
Historically the Nats were quite right wing (hence Tartan Tories) and in 1981 Salmond was expelled for being too left wing. The Nats are on the whole only wanting to spend English money, not their own.
Fraser Nelson is a serious and likeable journalist, Iain Martin is rather pathetic and aging hack who pretends that he knows something about Scotland because back in the day he was wrecking The Scotsman as editor for Andrew Neil while David Maddox is an incompetent propagandist masquerading as a journalist because he can't get a job anywhere else.
The big mistake the bookies made was listening to all of these "political commentators", ignoring both polling and evidence from those of us on the ground in Scotland. At this point William Hill still had SLAB 0-5 seats at 125/1 for another 10 days: (snip)
Murphy had an impossible job: the damage to Labour in Scotland was done well before he became leader. Blaming him for SLab's failure is as nonsensical as blaming Churchill (*) for the start of the Second World War. (**)
Falkirk was a sign that SLab was morally corrupt. The malaise was deep and is still there. Much more than Murphy, politicians of Gordon Brown's ilk hold much more responsibility for SLab's disease.
(*) Without wanting to get onto a Churchill conversation again. (**) Without wanting to get onto a when-WWII-started conversation again.
Mr. M, indeed, must be making these too easy... time to go east.
Fourth Emperor: who kicked to death the White Death of the Saracens? [NB the answer is an emperor].
I thought that was a myth. Didn't the assassin kill him with a sword whilst dressed as a woman. Took the name John as Emperor afterwards. I have read about his tomb, which bears the words "A woman killed you" or similar.
Edit: Via Google: "You conquered all but a woman" (Ώ πλην γυναικός τα δ' άλλα Νικηφόρος)
That Labour shortlist for London Mayor is actually terrible. Out of all of them, Tessa Jowell is the only one worth voting for.
Well, she's the favourite. But I can see a strong case for Khan (heavyweight with strong links to both London and the Westminster scene) and Wolmar (transport expert for a job whose obvious needs include transport expertise). Lammy was good after the riots, at a time when false steps would have been easy. Thomas is a competent MP with a different angle from usual (cooperatives). Abbott is well-known and has the off-beat flavour which London voters like in Mayors.
Fraser Nelson is a serious and likeable journalist, Iain Martin is rather pathetic and aging hack who pretends that he knows something about Scotland because back in the day he was wrecking The Scotsman as editor for Andrew Neil while David Maddox is an incompetent propagandist masquerading as a journalist because he can't get a job anywhere else.
The big mistake the bookies made was listening to all of these "political commentators", ignoring both polling and evidence from those of us on the ground in Scotland. At this point William Hill still had SLAB 0-5 seats at 125/1 for another 10 days:
Do you think a different choice of leader could have materially affected the result?
I think the Tories choice of Davidson helped steady their ship - but I doubt anyone could have defended Labour against Sturgeon's onslaught (I think Eck would have fared less well..)
I think Ruth did indeed steady the ship and the Tories may still yet see some dividends in May 2016 if SLAB and SLID can't get their acts together.
I think SLAB would have been as well leaving Anas Sarwar in place, Jim was just to divisive a figure whose election pretty much guaranteed SLAB a sub 25% result and helped push the SNP surge to 50%. A less divisive figure like Sarwar may have got closer to 30% and shaved a few % of the SNP - might have saved a few seats.
We know him as Julian the Hellene because he tried to rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem. All I remember is that it was the commander in chief of his army.
That Labour shortlist for London Mayor is actually terrible. Out of all of them, Tessa Jowell is the only one worth voting for.
Well, she's the favourite. But I can see a strong case for Khan (heavyweight with strong links to both London and the Westminster scene) and Wolmar (transport expert for a job whose obvious needs include transport expertise). Lammy was good after the riots, at a time when false steps would have been easy. Thomas is a competent MP with a different angle from usual (cooperatives). Abbott is well-known and has the off-beat flavour which London voters like in Mayors.
In practice it will be Jowell or Khan, though.
Looks like Zac Goldsmith's going to be the next mayor of London then
Incidentally, if you haven't read Ammianus Marcellinus' history I can strongly recommend it [and not just because he debunks Ed Miliband's price freeze idiocy more than sixteen centuries before it was proposed].
Sixth: under which emperor was the empire's geographical extent the largest?
Incidentally, if you haven't read Ammianus Marcellinus' history I can strongly recommend it [and not just because he debunks Ed Miliband's price freeze idiocy more than sixteen centuries before it was proposed].
Sixth: under which emperor was the empire's geographical extent the largest?
Incidentally, if you haven't read Ammianus Marcellinus' history I can strongly recommend it [and not just because he debunks Ed Miliband's price freeze idiocy more than sixteen centuries before it was proposed].
Sixth: under which emperor was the empire's geographical extent the largest?
Standard pub trivia - Trajan
Edit: you've seen a photo of the pub I set the quiz at, Mr Dancer. You'll need to try harder than that
I think that polling independent of party on various socio-economic issues show the Scots as only marginally more left wing than the English.
Historically the Nats were quite right wing (hence Tartan Tories) and in 1981 Salmond was expelled for being too left wing. The Nats are on the whole only wanting to spend English money, not their own.
That's interesting regarding polling. Because it does appear that Scotland - at least economically, and on the EU - differ from English voters. On the SNP being historically right-wing, I did hear that on a BBC programme (Rise of SNP I think it was). Another interesting observation is that upon the SNP's shift to the centre-left they've achieved historic success, especially if you're right on the polling data. Particularly as Scots as a whole despite voting SNP haven't been all too keen on independence. Though in the next five years that could change.
What that polling data means though is that the Tories have serious brand issue in Scotland. Such an issue that even Cameron, and LD detoxification of the Tories, and Ruth Davidson haven't solved. They must really hate the Conservative Party in Scotland.
Nice try , go back to 1900 , Boer War , that should be clue enough for you.
Wrong again- try the Spanish in Cuba - doesn't fit with "Brits as bad as Nazis" does it?
You are now an official laughing stock.
In your head only.
At least I haven't argued that there is a moral equivalence between the Brits and the Nazis.....
Yes you have. You and a couple of other loyalists have tried to argue that.
Using your archetype straw man argument you've tried to equate Scottish Independence with Nazism and tried to equate criticism of British history with support for Nazism.
You have a particularly revolting attitude to anyone who does not agree with you and the continued way to resort to equating such individuals with Nazis just makes you look stupid, antagonistic and utterly vacuous.
That Labour shortlist for London Mayor is actually terrible. Out of all of them, Tessa Jowell is the only one worth voting for.
Well, she's the favourite. But I can see a strong case for Khan (heavyweight with strong links to both London and the Westminster scene) and Wolmar (transport expert for a job whose obvious needs include transport expertise). Lammy was good after the riots, at a time when false steps would have been easy. Thomas is a competent MP with a different angle from usual (cooperatives). Abbott is well-known and has the off-beat flavour which London voters like in Mayors.
In practice it will be Jowell or Khan, though.
I can see Lammy going down well in Tottenham - not sure he'd do that well elsewhere in London. Abbott....hmmm...she's a fairly divisive personality. Khan is someone who can see doing well in parts of inner London, but I don't know how he'd go down elsewhere.
Fraser Nelson is a serious and likeable journalist, Iain Martin is rather pathetic and aging hack who pretends that he knows something about Scotland because back in the day he was wrecking The Scotsman as editor for Andrew Neil while David Maddox is an incompetent propagandist masquerading as a journalist because he can't get a job anywhere else.
The big mistake the bookies made was listening to all of these "political commentators", ignoring both polling and evidence from those of us on the ground in Scotland. At this point William Hill still had SLAB 0-5 seats at 125/1 for another 10 days: (snip)
Murphy had an impossible job: the damage to Labour in Scotland was done well before he became leader. Blaming him for SLab's failure is as nonsensical as blaming Churchill (*) for the start of the Second World War. (**)
Falkirk was a sign that SLab was morally corrupt. The malaise was deep and is still there. Much more than Murphy, politicians of Gordon Brown's ilk hold much more responsibility for SLab's disease.
(*) Without wanting to get onto a Churchill conversation again. (**) Without wanting to get onto a when-WWII-started conversation again.
I think the difficulty was Murphy was the MSM and political commentators candidate, he undoubtedly made a bad situation worse with his hectoring and aggressive style. At the end of the day he was one of 41 SLAB MPs who had failed to notice that there support base had collapsed, they must all share collective responsibility for this. However in defeat they are seeking to blame anyone but themselves. The kicking out SLAB members who voted SNP is nothing short of barmy, these are the very people SLAB should be engaging with. SLAB wont even release membership numbers.
On a lighter note we never did manage to get a SLAB poster on PB, maybe once one appears that may signify the start of a SLAB revival.
Mr. Dair, correct, except for the narrow definition bit
[Well, I may've forgotten an Eastern one].
Next emperor: who was the second emperor in 69AD, the Year of the Four Emperors?
That's partially what I mean but I don't have the patience to go through : -
All Roman Empires today called Byzatine Emperors. All Holy Roman Emporers. All Russian Tzars. All Ottoman Sultans. All Popes. Probably All "Others" claiming to be the inheritors of Rome (didn't the British Monarch used to claim this at some point?)
But I do know Benedict XVI abdicated by choice and is a potential Roman Emperor by some definitions.
That Labour shortlist for London Mayor is actually terrible. Out of all of them, Tessa Jowell is the only one worth voting for.
Well, she's the favourite. But I can see a strong case for Khan (heavyweight with strong links to both London and the Westminster scene) and Wolmar (transport expert for a job whose obvious needs include transport expertise). Lammy was good after the riots, at a time when false steps would have been easy. Thomas is a competent MP with a different angle from usual (cooperatives). Abbott is well-known and has the off-beat flavour which London voters like in Mayors.
In practice it will be Jowell or Khan, though.
Mr Palmer - do you happen to know Tessa's stance on Heathrow expansion? I know that Goldsmith is against it. I'm afraid that I can't vote for any candidate who is against it. (I don't particularly enthuse about the idea myself, but I think it is sadly the grown-up option, rather like paying your tax bill)
What shocked me more about reading that thread is Murphy was considered a contender to lead UK Labour! He'd actually be worse than Ed Miliband if he elected - he has zero charisma or electoral appeal at all. He doesn't even come across as prime ministerial. I suspect a number of people there were talking up Murphy purely because they agreed with his politics, more so than anything else. What seems more alarming is that quite a few a on thread appear to think that Scotland is a right-wing country whose political outlook is not that different to England. When if anything, it seems quite clear that the two countries have vastly different political perspectives.
I think I once had a fight with Jim Murphy although, in fairness, it could well have been Ed Byrne as they were quite inseparable and I was reasonably drunk. Whichever one it was they went down like a bag of spuds.
Fraser Nelson is a serious and likeable journalist, Iain Martin is rather pathetic and aging hack who pretends that he knows something about Scotland because back in the day he was wrecking The Scotsman as editor for Andrew Neil while David Maddox is an incompetent propagandist masquerading as a journalist because he can't get a job anywhere else.
The big mistake the bookies made was listening to all of these "political commentators", ignoring both polling and evidence from those of us on the ground in Scotland. At this point William Hill still had SLAB 0-5 seats at 125/1 for another 10 days: (snip)
Murphy had an impossible job: the damage to Labour in Scotland was done well before he became leader. Blaming him for SLab's failure is as nonsensical as blaming Churchill (*) for the start of the Second World War. (**)
Falkirk was a sign that SLab was morally corrupt. The malaise was deep and is still there. Much more than Murphy, politicians of Gordon Brown's ilk hold much more responsibility for SLab's disease.
(*) Without wanting to get onto a Churchill conversation again. (**) Without wanting to get onto a when-WWII-started conversation again.
I think the difficulty was Murphy was the MSM and political commentators candidate, he undoubtedly made a bad situation worse with his hectoring and aggressive style. At the end of the day he was one of 41 SLAB MPs who had failed to notice that there support base had collapsed, they must all share collective responsibility for this. However in defeat they are seeking to blame anyone but themselves. The kicking out SLAB members who voted SNP is nothing short of barmy, these are the very people SLAB should be engaging with. SLAB wont even release membership numbers.
On a lighter note we never did manage to get a SLAB poster on PB, maybe once one appears that may signify the start of a SLAB revival.
SLAB at the end was a cult that failed to notice the crowd getting thin. They were too busy doing the sacrifices etc.
As others have noticed, screaming WE ARE NOT THE TORIES louder and louder does not constitute a complete political platform.
An American relative recently visited Scotland - she was stunned when I pointed out that some of the areas she had been to had been represented at Westminster by the most powerful figures in a very long running Labour government. She couldn't believe that they hadn't built 6 lane bridges between every hamlet etc, as would have happened in the US.
Mr Palmer - do you happen to know Tessa's stance on Heathrow expansion? I know that Goldsmith is against it. I'm afraid that I can't vote for any candidate who is against it. (I don't particularly enthuse about the idea myself, but I think it is sadly the grown-up option, rather like paying your tax bill)
I don't know, sorry. Labour's general stance has been the not especially heroic "Do make up your minds, Ministers, this faffing about is getting ridiculous". But if any of the candidates has taken a specific stance I've not seen it. In practice I'm sure whoever is chosen will need to.
Hillary Clinton stump speech sounds disturbingly, uninspirationally, progressive in a defensive and almost reactionary manner. Like that British guy from a few months ago. You know the guy I mean.
When if anything, it seems quite clear that the two countries have vastly different political perspectives.
There is very little polling evidence that backs that up......
The intelligent right in Scotland is already on board with the SNP. They have seen what Westminster has done to Wales and do not wish to see it repeated here. Once the mineral wealth of the colony is exhausted, Westminster are quite happy to start ripping away the personal wealth till the colony is financially exhausted.
Wales is a warning from history and not unnoticed in Scotland.
I think Ruth did indeed steady the ship and the Tories may still yet see some dividends in May 2016 if SLAB and SLID can't get their acts together.
I think SLAB would have been as well leaving Anas Sarwar in place, Jim was just to divisive a figure whose election pretty much guaranteed SLAB a sub 25% result and helped push the SNP surge to 50%. A less divisive figure like Sarwar may have got closer to 30% and shaved a few % of the SNP - might have saved a few seats.
Not sure that a hereditary MP would have been more successful than Murphy. Especially the way social media would have propagated the family secrets. There's a lot of questions about how Sarwar Sr made his money.
I'm not sure between two possible answers. If this was WhoWantsToBeAMillionaire I'd ask to lose two wrong answers on this one.
Okay, Mr Dancer, that was my hint that I needed a clue but you aren't going to bite. So I'm not sure between Isaac (by date) or Alexis (by full power) Which were you after?
I feel like I'm about to throw a box full of laxatives into the monkey house, but here goes.
THE historian David Starkey, never short of an outspoken word, has turned his ire on the Scottish National party, likening them to the Nazis and the Saltire to the swastika.
In an interview with The Sunday Times, Starkey, 70, said the way the SNP blamed the English for Scotland’s woes was similar to how Hitler blamed the Jews for Germany’s ruin after the First World War.
The historian, a regular member of the panel on BBC1’s Question Time, made a detailed comparison between the SNP and the Nazis, even trying to draw a joke out of the desire to wear kilts and lederhosen.
An American relative recently visited Scotland - she was stunned when I pointed out that some of the areas she had been to had been represented at Westminster by the most powerful figures in a very long running Labour government. She couldn't believe that they hadn't built 6 lane bridges between every hamlet etc, as would have happened in the US.
It did work for a long time. And to an extent that was the Labour Modus Operandii.
They thrive off the votes of the poor. Why would they ever want people to stop being poor? So the constituencies with the most solid and long standing Labour support are also those with the highest levels of poverty.
They believed with all their heart that they never, ever had to make things better for their constituents. They did not think that anyone would ever be able to deliver a message of Hope. Once that happened, they were finished.
I don't know, sorry. Labour's general stance has been the not especially heroic "Do make up your minds, Ministers, this faffing about is getting ridiculous".
Yes, the Coalition wasted an entire Parliament kicking the issue down the road.
Just a thought - if Sadaq wins AND can do something about housing in London then it would stand him in very good stead if he resumes his parliamentary career a la Boris.
I seem to remember another famous politician who made his name by tackling housing in the 1950's! :-)
Wales was poorer than England when Llywelyn was defeated by Edward I.
And how has 'personal wealth' been 'ripped away'? The tax rates are identical in England and Wales.
Wales was quite an economic powerhouse under Peak Coal, it was the source of not just significant quantities of Empire coal but some of the best stuff there was. It never benefited from a penny of that natural resource.
Since the resource has run down, it has become ever poorer as Westminster has continued to collect wealth from the province and failed to invest on similar terms as it has in the South East of England.
Wales is now the poorest region, economically, in Western Europe. 100 years ago it was one of the richest.
I feel like I'm about to throw a box full of laxatives into the monkey house, but here goes.
THE historian David Starkey, never short of an outspoken word, has turned his ire on the Scottish National party, likening them to the Nazis and the Saltire to the swastika.
In an interview with The Sunday Times, Starkey, 70, said the way the SNP blamed the English for Scotland’s woes was similar to how Hitler blamed the Jews for Germany’s ruin after the First World War.
The historian, a regular member of the panel on BBC1’s Question Time, made a detailed comparison between the SNP and the Nazis, even trying to draw a joke out of the desire to wear kilts and lederhosen.
Mr. Dair, many places in England have also become poorer on those terms. That's because of the way the cookie has crumbled regarded the Industrial Revolution and more recent changes to global economics, not because the English are evil bastards.
An American relative recently visited Scotland - she was stunned when I pointed out that some of the areas she had been to had been represented at Westminster by the most powerful figures in a very long running Labour government. She couldn't believe that they hadn't built 6 lane bridges between every hamlet etc, as would have happened in the US.
It did work for a long time. And to an extent that was the Labour Modus Operandii.
They thrive off the votes of the poor. Why would they ever want people to stop being poor? So the constituencies with the most solid and long standing Labour support are also those with the highest levels of poverty.
They believed with all their heart that they never, ever had to make things better for their constituents. They did not think that anyone would ever be able to deliver a message of Hope. Once that happened, they were finished.
Some years ago a friend was given the job of setting up a factory to build a certain product.
Being a chap of some imagination, he took the example of BMW building auto plants in the poorer states in the US etc, and had a look at Northern England.
The local "state" essentially told him to go away. A drunken Labour councilor said pretty much what you said in your third paragraph - he thought that people with jobs would vote Tory, so not wanted here....
The factory was built in the Far East, in the end.
I feel like I'm about to throw a box full of laxatives into the monkey house, but here goes.
THE historian David Starkey, never short of an outspoken word, has turned his ire on the Scottish National party, likening them to the Nazis and the Saltire to the swastika.
In an interview with The Sunday Times, Starkey, 70, said the way the SNP blamed the English for Scotland’s woes was similar to how Hitler blamed the Jews for Germany’s ruin after the First World War.
The historian, a regular member of the panel on BBC1’s Question Time, made a detailed comparison between the SNP and the Nazis, even trying to draw a joke out of the desire to wear kilts and lederhosen.
Mr. Dair, many places in England have also become poorer on those terms. That's because of the way the cookie has crumbled regarded the Industrial Revolution and more recent changes to global economics, not because the English are evil bastards.
It is due to the way the cookie is deliberately broken up and digested in a specific area.
I feel like I'm about to throw a box full of laxatives into the monkey house, but here goes.
THE historian David Starkey, never short of an outspoken word, has turned his ire on the Scottish National party, likening them to the Nazis and the Saltire to the swastika.
In an interview with The Sunday Times, Starkey, 70, said the way the SNP blamed the English for Scotland’s woes was similar to how Hitler blamed the Jews for Germany’s ruin after the First World War.
The historian, a regular member of the panel on BBC1’s Question Time, made a detailed comparison between the SNP and the Nazis, even trying to draw a joke out of the desire to wear kilts and lederhosen.
Mr. Dair, bloody English, taking the world past steam power.
Mr. Apocalypse, either that, or he's taking the piss deliberately. Does he have a book out? Being rude about Thatcher got Hilary[sp] Mantel in the papers ahead of Wolf Hall being on TV.
As an aside, several years ago, Mehdi Hasan was on Any Questions, which was being hosted in a mosque. He claimed that Muslims in Britain were being treated like Jews in 1930s Germany, which drew loud applause.
Wales was poorer than England when Llywelyn was defeated by Edward I.
And how has 'personal wealth' been 'ripped away'? The tax rates are identical in England and Wales.
Wales was quite an economic powerhouse under Peak Coal, it was the source of not just significant quantities of Empire coal but some of the best stuff there was. It never benefited from a penny of that natural resource.
Since the resource has run down, it has become ever poorer as Westminster has continued to collect wealth from the province and failed to invest on similar terms as it has in the South East of England.
Wales is now the poorest region, economically, in Western Europe. 100 years ago it was one of the richest.
150 years ago Liverpool was the city of millionaires. A century ago the expression was "as rich as an Argentine, 50 years ago Birmingham had the highest average income of British cities. Times move on, and Wales has been a net recipient of wealth for decades, indeed it just demonstrates that while external monies can amelioate the effects of economic change, they due not reverse it.
Mr. Dair, many places in England have also become poorer on those terms. That's because of the way the cookie has crumbled regarded the Industrial Revolution and more recent changes to global economics, not because the English are evil bastards.
It is due to the way the cookie is deliberately broken up and digested in a specific area.
It had more to do with classic Resource Curse. Build your economy around resource extraction and your end up with a disaster when something happens to it - in the end all the other forms of economic activity tend to get driven out in the boom.
Mr. M, time for a hard one, as the nun said to the schoolboys.
Ninth: who succeeded Aurelian?
I read Tacitus at school and translated it as homework. But then again, I was privately educated in an age when learning Latin wasn't sneered at by the socialism scum who these days take joy in dragging our education system ever downwards.
Given Mr Hasan's very dubious video on YouTube - I'm AMAZED that he continued to have a media career. I can only assume some very special blind-eyes were applied to his statements.
Mr. Dair, bloody English, taking the world past steam power.
Mr. Apocalypse, either that, or he's taking the piss deliberately. Does he have a book out? Being rude about Thatcher got Hilary[sp] Mantel in the papers ahead of Wolf Hall being on TV.
As an aside, several years ago, Mehdi Hasan was on Any Questions, which was being hosted in a mosque. He claimed that Muslims in Britain were being treated like Jews in 1930s Germany, which drew loud applause.
Mr. Dair, bloody English, taking the world past steam power.
Mr. Apocalypse, either that, or he's taking the piss deliberately. Does he have a book out? Being rude about Thatcher got Hilary[sp] Mantel in the papers ahead of Wolf Hall being on TV.
As an aside, several years ago, Mehdi Hasan was on Any Questions, which was being hosted in a mosque. He claimed that Muslims in Britain were being treated like Jews in 1930s Germany, which drew loud applause.
It's Ms Apocalypse
I wouldn't be surprised if he did have book out. Sometimes I think Starkey is simply a wind-up merchant. Likewise with Mehdi Hasan. Ever since I first saw him on QT five years ago, I've disliked him. He's completely obnoxious and hypocritical.
I feel like I'm about to throw a box full of laxatives into the monkey house, but here goes.
THE historian David Starkey, never short of an outspoken word, has turned his ire on the Scottish National party, likening them to the Nazis and the Saltire to the swastika.
In an interview with The Sunday Times, Starkey, 70, said the way the SNP blamed the English for Scotland’s woes was similar to how Hitler blamed the Jews for Germany’s ruin after the First World War.
The historian, a regular member of the panel on BBC1’s Question Time, made a detailed comparison between the SNP and the Nazis, even trying to draw a joke out of the desire to wear kilts and lederhosen.
Mr. Dair, bloody English, taking the world past steam power.
This is the Britain/England which was still using Steam Locomotives in the 1960s and then diseasels till the 1990s (in the main and still today in the minority) while the world being "taken past steam power" had moved onto Electric Locomotives in the 1930s?
I think, perhaps, you need to remove the rose tinted glasses.
We had a complete hatchet face as our Latin teacher. She'd mix up paragraphs of the Odyssey and the Iliad to try to catch us out guessing. Oh and made us learn 4000 words/verbs with declensions by heart.
I know more Latin from 4yrs of this than 11yrs of French.
Mr. M, time for a hard one, as the nun said to the schoolboys.
Ninth: who succeeded Aurelian?
I read Tacitus at school and translated it as homework. But then again, I was privately educated in an age when learning Latin wasn't sneered at by the socialism scum who these days take joy in dragging our education system ever downwards.
Mr. M, time for a hard one, as the nun said to the schoolboys.
Ninth: who succeeded Aurelian?
I read Tacitus at school and translated it as homework. But then again, I was privately educated in an age when learning Latin wasn't sneered at by the socialism scum who these days take joy in dragging our education system ever downwards.
Mr. Dair, bloody English, taking the world past steam power.
This is the Britain/England which was still using Steam Locomotives in the 1960s and then diseasels till the 1990s (in the main and still today in the minority) while the world being "taken past steam power" had moved onto Electric Locomotives in the 1930s?
I think, perhaps, you need to remove the rose tinted glasses.
The Northeastern Railway had electric locos as early as 1914. So there!
Mr. Dair, many places in England have also become poorer on those terms. That's because of the way the cookie has crumbled regarded the Industrial Revolution and more recent changes to global economics, not because the English are evil bastards.
It is due to the way the cookie is deliberately broken up and digested in a specific area.
It had more to do with classic Resource Curse. Build your economy around resource extraction and your end up with a disaster when something happens to it - in the end all the other forms of economic activity tend to get driven out in the boom.
The really depends upon whether you get to invest the resource income in your territory or have it ripped away to be invested in another territory.
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Fraser Nelson is a serious and likeable journalist, Iain Martin is rather pathetic and aging hack who pretends that he knows something about Scotland because back in the day he was wrecking The Scotsman as editor for Andrew Neil while David Maddox is an incompetent propagandist masquerading as a journalist because he can't get a job anywhere else.
http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2014/12/13/jim-murphy-wins-scottish-labour-leadership-election-with-56-of-votes-on-first-round/
The SNP are a vehicle to Independence. What they do or do not is almost irrelevant. The goal is all that matters. The eyes are on the prize.
BEFORE YOU BREAK MY HEART
No-one really cares who started concentration camps 100 years ago. The real question is why people who are not resident in the United Kingdom feel somehow empowered to tell those who are how to behave.
It is time you paid your way instead of mooching off others.
https://twitter.com/E_T_Stevens/status/609784689335865344
At least I haven't argued that there is a moral equivalence between the Brits and the Nazis.....
Laughing stock does not cover it.....
You have to allow us some fun once in a while.
.....tempting.....
[Well, I may've forgotten an Eastern one].
Next emperor: who was the second emperor in 69AD, the Year of the Four Emperors?
Others, less so.....
Third Emperor: who was Marcus Aurelius' co-emperor?
I think the Tories choice of Davidson helped steady their ship - but I doubt anyone could have defended Labour against Sturgeon's onslaught (I think Eck would have fared less well..)
Historically the Nats were quite right wing (hence Tartan Tories) and in 1981 Salmond was expelled for being too left wing. The Nats are on the whole only wanting to spend English money, not their own.
Falkirk was a sign that SLab was morally corrupt. The malaise was deep and is still there. Much more than Murphy, politicians of Gordon Brown's ilk hold much more responsibility for SLab's disease.
(*) Without wanting to get onto a Churchill conversation again.
(**) Without wanting to get onto a when-WWII-started conversation again.
Fourth Emperor: who kicked to death the White Death of the Saracens? [NB the answer is an emperor].
I always struggle to recall the full name of the second V.
Edit: Via Google: "You conquered all but a woman" (Ώ πλην γυναικός τα δ' άλλα Νικηφόρος)
And aye, it was John Tzimisces.
Fifth: who succeeded Julian the Apostate?
In practice it will be Jowell or Khan, though.
I think SLAB would have been as well leaving Anas Sarwar in place, Jim was just to divisive a figure whose election pretty much guaranteed SLAB a sub 25% result and helped push the SNP surge to 50%. A less divisive figure like Sarwar may have got closer to 30% and shaved a few % of the SNP - might have saved a few seats.
All I remember is that it was the commander in chief of his army.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jovian_(emperor)
Incidentally, if you haven't read Ammianus Marcellinus' history I can strongly recommend it [and not just because he debunks Ed Miliband's price freeze idiocy more than sixteen centuries before it was proposed].
Sixth: under which emperor was the empire's geographical extent the largest?
Anyone betting on this? I wonder what you would have got for that HT score before the game?
What that polling data means though is that the Tories have serious brand issue in Scotland. Such an issue that even Cameron, and LD detoxification of the Tories, and Ruth Davidson haven't solved. They must really hate the Conservative Party in Scotland.
Seventh: who was the first Comnenus emperor?
Using your archetype straw man argument you've tried to equate Scottish Independence with Nazism and tried to equate criticism of British history with support for Nazism.
You have a particularly revolting attitude to anyone who does not agree with you and the continued way to resort to equating such individuals with Nazis just makes you look stupid, antagonistic and utterly vacuous.
On a lighter note we never did manage to get a SLAB poster on PB, maybe once one appears that may signify the start of a SLAB revival.
All Roman Empires today called Byzatine Emperors.
All Holy Roman Emporers.
All Russian Tzars.
All Ottoman Sultans.
All Popes.
Probably All "Others" claiming to be the inheritors of Rome (didn't the British Monarch used to claim this at some point?)
But I do know Benedict XVI abdicated by choice and is a potential Roman Emperor by some definitions.
(I don't particularly enthuse about the idea myself, but I think it is sadly the grown-up option, rather like paying your tax bill)
If this was WhoWantsToBeAMillionaire I'd ask to lose two wrong answers on this one.
Western and Eastern Empires count.
The Holy Roman Emperors have the least accurate job title in history.
The Czars liked to pretend they were the Third Rome. They were not.
The Roman Empire finally ended with the tragic fall of Byzantium to the Turks. And anyone who thinks Popes are Roman Emperors is a daft sod.
As others have noticed, screaming WE ARE NOT THE TORIES louder and louder does not constitute a complete political platform.
An American relative recently visited Scotland - she was stunned when I pointed out that some of the areas she had been to had been represented at Westminster by the most powerful figures in a very long running Labour government. She couldn't believe that they hadn't built 6 lane bridges between every hamlet etc, as would have happened in the US.
Wales is a warning from history and not unnoticed in Scotland.
Wales was poorer than England when Llywelyn was defeated by Edward I.
And how has 'personal wealth' been 'ripped away'? The tax rates are identical in England and Wales.
Come on, it's 50/50. And it's not like the enormo-haddock are waiting to give you a beating if you get it wrong.
So I'm not sure between Isaac (by date) or Alexis (by full power)
Which were you after?
Besides, you could make a case for John being more powerful than Alexius.
Good knowledge about Isaac, incidentally.
Eighth: who was emperor when Islam was founded?
THE historian David Starkey, never short of an outspoken word, has turned his ire on the Scottish National party, likening them to the Nazis and the Saltire to the swastika.
In an interview with The Sunday Times, Starkey, 70, said the way the SNP blamed the English for Scotland’s woes was similar to how Hitler blamed the Jews for Germany’s ruin after the First World War.
The historian, a regular member of the panel on BBC1’s Question Time, made a detailed comparison between the SNP and the Nazis, even trying to draw a joke out of the desire to wear kilts and lederhosen.
http://thetim.es/1IRT291
They thrive off the votes of the poor. Why would they ever want people to stop being poor? So the constituencies with the most solid and long standing Labour support are also those with the highest levels of poverty.
They believed with all their heart that they never, ever had to make things better for their constituents. They did not think that anyone would ever be able to deliver a message of Hope. Once that happened, they were finished.
Just a thought - if Sadaq wins AND can do something about housing in London then it would stand him in very good stead if he resumes his parliamentary career a la Boris.
I seem to remember another famous politician who made his name by tackling housing in the 1950's! :-)
Since the resource has run down, it has become ever poorer as Westminster has continued to collect wealth from the province and failed to invest on similar terms as it has in the South East of England.
Wales is now the poorest region, economically, in Western Europe. 100 years ago it was one of the richest.
Ninth: who succeeded Aurelian?
Haha.
Is there any individual in the entire world who takes Starkey seriously?
Being a chap of some imagination, he took the example of BMW building auto plants in the poorer states in the US etc, and had a look at Northern England.
The local "state" essentially told him to go away. A drunken Labour councilor said pretty much what you said in your third paragraph - he thought that people with jobs would vote Tory, so not wanted here....
The factory was built in the Far East, in the end.
Mr. Apocalypse, either that, or he's taking the piss deliberately. Does he have a book out? Being rude about Thatcher got Hilary[sp] Mantel in the papers ahead of Wolf Hall being on TV.
As an aside, several years ago, Mehdi Hasan was on Any Questions, which was being hosted in a mosque. He claimed that Muslims in Britain were being treated like Jews in 1930s Germany, which drew loud applause.
I wouldn't be surprised if he did have book out. Sometimes I think Starkey is simply a wind-up merchant. Likewise with Mehdi Hasan. Ever since I first saw him on QT five years ago, I've disliked him. He's completely obnoxious and hypocritical.
I think, perhaps, you need to remove the rose tinted glasses.
I know more Latin from 4yrs of this than 11yrs of French.
Also, what's your answer?
[I would've liked to learn Latin but it was, unfortunately, a forced choice between that or German, whereas foul French was forced upon me].
Ms. Apocalypse, I do apologise. [You don't have four equestrian sons, do you?]
I keep hoping some noisy politically correct people will get annoyed with Sir Edric and give me a bucketload of publicity.
Miss Plato, I must agree entirely. It's a disgrace.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_EF1
As I said, Wales is the example to avoid.