"I can't quite get why Labour are so keen to encourage transfer pricing techniques in the health sector....."
They're not. They're looking for a USP and they've decided to go left which though it might throw up a few incoherent ideas is almost certainly Labour's best chance. All the normal avenues for attacking the government are closed. The Tories have been lucky with the economy
"The Tories have been lucky with the economy".
Since those on the Left never seem to have any real understanding of market economics or how the economy works, then it is perhaps unsurprising that you think that success can only come through "luck".
"I also believe SLAB might deploy Gordon Brown, as they did in the last weeks of the referendum, to energize SLAB inclined voters. Despite all the opprobrium, must of it justified, the former PM remain a combative and effective performer in Scotland, where he retains much of his popularity."
It's always surprising to wander round Scottish cities like Aberdeen and see 'The Gordon Brown Buildings' Gordon Brown Avenue Gordon Brown Passage etc etc. The man was a Colossus
Gordon Brown is kicking off the Scottish GE today at the EICC
"Tom Newton Dunn (@tnewtondunn) 28/03/2015 10:21 The Sun Says today: Miliband's blunt message to The Sun and our readers - he doesn't like us, or you. pic.twitter.com/EGCA8d32xE "
I think most people agree with the poster on here who said 'Sun Readers' is an oxymoron
"Very interesting statistic for Council By-elections in March"
That might be interesting to the village folk in Easterross but to us city folks with more enquiring minds it tells us very little. You haven't even indicated how many by elections are included in your survey
lol
enquiring minds need I remind what we learned this week
Easterross = friendly highlander Roger = irritable cockney
No idea but raining in Ayrshire for sure. Hopefully it will clear up as I want to have a nice country walk this afternoon.
PS horrific to do that to a Scotch Egg
Much better to be in the fresh air than the hot air at the SECC.
Seems that Buckie flavoured sausages are popular, and the Strawberry flavour sausages that were sold for Wimbledon last year.
Unbelievable what some people will eat. Re political conferences , have never in my life had any inclination to attend any political event and especially party conferences. Fair play to anyone who is that interested mind you.
Yip, and look at how many actually believed "Scotland's Future" or are buying "The Dream Will Never Die"
Well you have to look at the competition and the dire past , must be a better party out there and the only option is the SNP. Time will tell if they are indeed better than the rest. They do not have much to live up to so should be difficult not to be. Imagine you only had to look forward to Labour running Scotland for another 50 years. The thought son nepotism, chicanery , greed , stupidity and sheer nastiness would drive you insane and almost want to vote Sottish Tory sockpuppets in.
"Very interesting statistic for Council By-elections in March"
That might be interesting to the village folk in Easterross but to us city folks with more enquiring minds it tells us very little. You haven't even indicated how many by elections are included in your survey
lol
enquiring minds need I remind what we learned this week
Easterross = friendly highlander Roger = irritable cockney
About the only thing the new Creme Egg is good for is inedible experiements in disgustingness. Also see Pizza Hut Creme Egg crust.
Watching the price and the offers get increasingly more desperate is quite funny and a good comeuppence for Mondelez but I really, really miss my usual Easter treat.
I do hope that everyone on PB, contributers and lurkers both, are looking forward the the new Festival on May 8th. No, I'm not talking about the GE results, but the burning of the pollsters, after their forecasts all prove to be woefully wrong. An Auto de Fe to go down in history.....
Among those pollsters is our own JackW. Jackus, prepare to have your bum burned.
How very dare you madam compare my ARSE to a mere pollster. I haven't be so insulted since I was described in the press, in terms, as a respected commentator on ConHome !! .... and it doesn't get any worse than that.
"Tom Newton Dunn (@tnewtondunn) 28/03/2015 10:21 The Sun Says today: Miliband's blunt message to The Sun and our readers - he doesn't like us, or you. pic.twitter.com/EGCA8d32xE "
I think most people agree with the poster on here who said 'Sun Readers' is an oxymoron
"I also believe SLAB might deploy Gordon Brown, as they did in the last weeks of the referendum, to energize SLAB inclined voters. Despite all the opprobrium, must of it justified, the former PM remain a combative and effective performer in Scotland, where he retains much of his popularity."
It's always surprising to wander round Scottish cities like Aberdeen and see 'The Gordon Brown Buildings' Gordon Brown Avenue Gordon Brown Passage etc etc. The man was a Colossus
Jack's view from London is a bit eccentric, he thinks a quick stay in 5 star hotels in Edinburgh gives him the vibe, too many artifical pies methinks.
Malc you are just like Wodger, no sense of humour.. of course its gone viral and been watched nearly a million times, but of course I guess you think none of them has a sense of humour either.
By that token Rebecca Black is the greatest singer of this generation.
"I also believe SLAB might deploy Gordon Brown, as they did in the last weeks of the referendum, to energize SLAB inclined voters. Despite all the opprobrium, must of it justified, the former PM remain a combative and effective performer in Scotland, where he retains much of his popularity."
It's always surprising to wander round Scottish cities like Aberdeen and see 'The Gordon Brown Buildings' Gordon Brown Avenue Gordon Brown Passage etc etc. The man was a Colossus
Jack's view from London is a bit eccentric, he thinks a quick stay in 5 star hotels in Edinburgh gives him the vibe, too many artifical pies methinks.
That's JackW's prediction, but what would Lord Pearson of Rannoch predict ?
How can anyone working in a NGO be classed as "non-political" the whole existence of their organisation exists solely for at the largesse of governmental bodies and their placepeople who run the organisations.
You generalise too readily. We get £0 from government bodies, and most of our work is abroad. Most of the staff don't follow British politics closely - just like, I suppose, most people in offices all over Britain. I've no idea how most of them vote, if they vote.
I do hope that everyone on PB, contributers and lurkers both, are looking forward the the new Festival on May 8th. No, I'm not talking about the GE results, but the burning of the pollsters, after their forecasts all prove to be woefully wrong. An Auto de Fe to go down in history.....
Among those pollsters is our own JackW. Jackus, prepare to have your bum burned.
How very dare you madam compare my ARSE to a mere pollster. I haven't be so insulted since I was described in the press, in terms, as a respected commentator on ConHome !! .... and it doesn't get any worse than that.
"I also believe SLAB might deploy Gordon Brown, as they did in the last weeks of the referendum, to energize SLAB inclined voters. Despite all the opprobrium, must of it justified, the former PM remain a combative and effective performer in Scotland, where he retains much of his popularity."
It's always surprising to wander round Scottish cities like Aberdeen and see 'The Gordon Brown Buildings' Gordon Brown Avenue Gordon Brown Passage etc etc. The man was a Colossus
Gordon Brown is kicking off the Scottish GE today at the EICC
Indeed so.
It'll be interesting to see whether SLAB utilize Gordon Brown extensively in the campaign as a rampaging big beast or just roll him out infrequently as a warm up act for Jim Murphy.
Not surprising news, but the Sun have really got it in for Ed
Tom Newton Dunn (@tnewtondunn) 28/03/2015 10:21 The Sun Says today: Miliband's blunt message to The Sun and our readers - he doesn't like us, or you. pic.twitter.com/EGCA8d32xE
What other conclusion could the Sun draw from having been excluded from a Labour Party campaign event?
@tnewtondunn: The Sun Says today: Miliband's blunt message to The Sun and our readers - he doesn't like us, or you. http://t.co/EGCA8d32xE
Given they are the dregs of society , who does
Think u are mixing up Sun and Mirror / Record readers malc
paul, two cheeks of the same arse , none fit for even toilet paper. They don't have huge writing and lots of pictures for nothing. "Readers" attention span would not allow for any real sentences.
"Tom Newton Dunn (@tnewtondunn) 28/03/2015 10:21 The Sun Says today: Miliband's blunt message to The Sun and our readers - he doesn't like us, or you. pic.twitter.com/EGCA8d32xE "
I think most people agree with the poster on here who said 'Sun Readers' is an oxymoron
Not surprising news, but the Sun have really got it in for Ed
Tom Newton Dunn (@tnewtondunn) 28/03/2015 10:21 The Sun Says today: Miliband's blunt message to The Sun and our readers - he doesn't like us, or you. pic.twitter.com/EGCA8d32xE
What other conclusion could the Sun draw from having been excluded from a Labour Party campaign event?
Surprised you asked that, I'm not arguing with their position
I do hope that everyone on PB, contributers and lurkers both, are looking forward the the new Festival on May 8th. No, I'm not talking about the GE results, but the burning of the pollsters, after their forecasts all prove to be woefully wrong. An Auto de Fe to go down in history.....
Among those pollsters is our own JackW. Jackus, prepare to have your bum burned.
How very dare you madam compare my ARSE to a mere pollster. I haven't be so insulted since I was described in the press, in terms, as a respected commentator on ConHome !! .... and it doesn't get any worse than that.
ARSE and ELBOW are like peas and carrots!
You might care to be a vegetable, but Sir I do not.
ARSE is like a fine vintage madeira whereas ELBOW is a cheeky and youthful claret that shows promise but is still suffering from vintners acne and excessive masturbatory blindness.
"I also believe SLAB might deploy Gordon Brown, as they did in the last weeks of the referendum, to energize SLAB inclined voters. Despite all the opprobrium, must of it justified, the former PM remain a combative and effective performer in Scotland, where he retains much of his popularity."
It's always surprising to wander round Scottish cities like Aberdeen and see 'The Gordon Brown Buildings' Gordon Brown Avenue Gordon Brown Passage etc etc. The man was a Colossus
Gordon Brown is kicking off the Scottish GE today at the EICC
Indeed so.
It'll be interesting to see whether SLAB utilize Gordon Brown extensively in the campaign as a rampaging big beast or just roll him out infrequently as a warm up act for Jim Murphy.
"I also believe SLAB might deploy Gordon Brown, as they did in the last weeks of the referendum, to energize SLAB inclined voters. Despite all the opprobrium, must of it justified, the former PM remain a combative and effective performer in Scotland, where he retains much of his popularity."
It's always surprising to wander round Scottish cities like Aberdeen and see 'The Gordon Brown Buildings' Gordon Brown Avenue Gordon Brown Passage etc etc. The man was a Colossus
Gordon Brown is kicking off the Scottish GE today at the EICC
Indeed so.
It'll be interesting to see whether SLAB utilize Gordon Brown extensively in the campaign as a rampaging big beast or just roll him out infrequently as a warm up act for Jim Murphy.
If they have any sense it will be the former.
Salmond is quoted in this week's Newstatesman as being very sure that Gordon saved the Union in those final few days.
"I also believe SLAB might deploy Gordon Brown, as they did in the last weeks of the referendum, to energize SLAB inclined voters. Despite all the opprobrium, must of it justified, the former PM remain a combative and effective performer in Scotland, where he retains much of his popularity."
It's always surprising to wander round Scottish cities like Aberdeen and see 'The Gordon Brown Buildings' Gordon Brown Avenue Gordon Brown Passage etc etc. The man was a Colossus
Gordon Brown is kicking off the Scottish GE today at the EICC
Indeed so.
It'll be interesting to see whether SLAB utilize Gordon Brown extensively in the campaign as a rampaging big beast or just roll him out infrequently as a warm up act for Jim Murphy.
If they have any sense it will be the former.
Salmond is quoted in this week's Newstatesman as being very sure that Gordon saved the Union in those final few days.
Why would he want to infer Labour saved the Tories bacon I wonder.
"I also believe SLAB might deploy Gordon Brown, as they did in the last weeks of the referendum, to energize SLAB inclined voters. Despite all the opprobrium, must of it justified, the former PM remain a combative and effective performer in Scotland, where he retains much of his popularity."
It's always surprising to wander round Scottish cities like Aberdeen and see 'The Gordon Brown Buildings' Gordon Brown Avenue Gordon Brown Passage etc etc. The man was a Colossus
Gordon Brown is kicking off the Scottish GE today at the EICC
Indeed so.
It'll be interesting to see whether SLAB utilize Gordon Brown extensively in the campaign as a rampaging big beast or just roll him out infrequently as a warm up act for Jim Murphy.
If they have any sense it will be the former.
Salmond is quoted in this week's Newstatesman as being very sure that Gordon saved the Union in those final few days.
He also prevented a single Labour loss in Scotland in 2010?
"I also believe SLAB might deploy Gordon Brown, as they did in the last weeks of the referendum, to energize SLAB inclined voters. Despite all the opprobrium, must of it justified, the former PM remain a combative and effective performer in Scotland, where he retains much of his popularity."
It's always surprising to wander round Scottish cities like Aberdeen and see 'The Gordon Brown Buildings' Gordon Brown Avenue Gordon Brown Passage etc etc. The man was a Colossus
Jack's view from London is a bit eccentric, he thinks a quick stay in 5 star hotels in Edinburgh gives him the vibe, too many artifical pies methinks.
If I require any considered advice on turnip pies I'll be sure to seek out your unequalled experience.
"I also believe SLAB might deploy Gordon Brown, as they did in the last weeks of the referendum, to energize SLAB inclined voters. Despite all the opprobrium, must of it justified, the former PM remain a combative and effective performer in Scotland, where he retains much of his popularity."
It's always surprising to wander round Scottish cities like Aberdeen and see 'The Gordon Brown Buildings' Gordon Brown Avenue Gordon Brown Passage etc etc. The man was a Colossus
Gordon Brown is kicking off the Scottish GE today at the EICC
Indeed so.
It'll be interesting to see whether SLAB utilize Gordon Brown extensively in the campaign as a rampaging big beast or just roll him out infrequently as a warm up act for Jim Murphy.
If they have any sense it will be the former.
Salmond is quoted in this week's Newstatesman as being very sure that Gordon saved the Union in those final few days.
He also prevented a single Labour loss in Scotland in 2010?
"I also believe SLAB might deploy Gordon Brown, as they did in the last weeks of the referendum, to energize SLAB inclined voters. Despite all the opprobrium, must of it justified, the former PM remain a combative and effective performer in Scotland, where he retains much of his popularity."
It's always surprising to wander round Scottish cities like Aberdeen and see 'The Gordon Brown Buildings' Gordon Brown Avenue Gordon Brown Passage etc etc. The man was a Colossus
Gordon Brown is kicking off the Scottish GE today at the EICC
Indeed so.
It'll be interesting to see whether SLAB utilize Gordon Brown extensively in the campaign as a rampaging big beast or just roll him out infrequently as a warm up act for Jim Murphy.
"Tom Newton Dunn (@tnewtondunn) 28/03/2015 10:21 The Sun Says today: Miliband's blunt message to The Sun and our readers - he doesn't like us, or you. pic.twitter.com/EGCA8d32xE "
I think most people agree with the poster on here who said 'Sun Readers' is an oxymoron
Oh dear - your contempt for millions of Sun and earlier, Mail readers says so much more about you and Miliband's Labour brand than about them.
"I also believe SLAB might deploy Gordon Brown, as they did in the last weeks of the referendum, to energize SLAB inclined voters. Despite all the opprobrium, must of it justified, the former PM remain a combative and effective performer in Scotland, where he retains much of his popularity."
It's always surprising to wander round Scottish cities like Aberdeen and see 'The Gordon Brown Buildings' Gordon Brown Avenue Gordon Brown Passage etc etc. The man was a Colossus
Jack's view from London is a bit eccentric, he thinks a quick stay in 5 star hotels in Edinburgh gives him the vibe, too many artifical pies methinks.
If I require any considered advice on turnip pies I'll be sure to seek out your unequalled experience.
Nice mutton or venison pie with turnip topping would go down a treat
"I also believe SLAB might deploy Gordon Brown, as they did in the last weeks of the referendum, to energize SLAB inclined voters. Despite all the opprobrium, must of it justified, the former PM remain a combative and effective performer in Scotland, where he retains much of his popularity."
It's always surprising to wander round Scottish cities like Aberdeen and see 'The Gordon Brown Buildings' Gordon Brown Avenue Gordon Brown Passage etc etc. The man was a Colossus
Gordon Brown is kicking off the Scottish GE today at the EICC
Indeed so.
It'll be interesting to see whether SLAB utilize Gordon Brown extensively in the campaign as a rampaging big beast or just roll him out infrequently as a warm up act for Jim Murphy.
If they have any sense it will be the former.
Salmond is quoted in this week's Newstatesman as being very sure that Gordon saved the Union in those final few days.
Why would he want to infer Labour saved the Tories bacon I wonder.
I think the context was more that next time there won't be a Gordon to rescue the 'No, thanks' at the last minute.
I can't quite get why Labour are so keen to encourage transfer pricing techniques in the health sector. Still, accountants and lawyers are always grateful for the extra work.
It's barmy - rebates, management fees, foreign parents, overhead recharging methods, internal costs, transfer pricing as you say, contingencies built into projects. Labour can't have a management accountant amongst them, there are many many ways to skin 5%.
The only Labour frontbencher with any substantial private sector experience is Rachel Reeves. If you're feeling charitable, you could mention Chuka Umunna too. It really shows in policies like this.
Nah, I think they do understand that this is easy to get around. Even @Pulpstar figured it in about 30 seconds
It seems to me that either:
(1) They know it will have mimimal practical impact - and they are lying to their voters and setting up false expectations in the search for a good soundbite
(2) They know it will drive the private sector out of the NHS and this is the deliberate policy
(3) point 2 plus they have no ideas on how to fix the NHS's fundamental problem (increasing demands in a resource limited environment) and are setting up the evil private companies unwilling to support the health of the nation as the people to blame.
@Pulpstar: I think your LibDem/Con list is pretty much spot on, with a few changes:
1. Carshalton is a more likely hold than Twickenham. 2. Cambridge is a possible Conservative gain. An unlikely one, but a possible one.
I am increasingly of the view that the Conservative Party is going to do better against the LibDems than consensus, but that the LibDems will hold a couple of real surprises against Labour (although maybe not Southwark). Bradford East as LibDem hold - you heard it here first.
@Pulpstar: I think your LibDem/Con list is pretty much spot on, with a few changes:
1. Carshalton is a more likely hold than Twickenham. 2. Cambridge is a possible Conservative gain. An unlikely one, but a possible one.
I am increasingly of the view that the Conservative Party is going to do better against the LibDems than consensus, but that the LibDems will hold a couple of real surprises against Labour (although maybe not Southwark). Bradford East as LibDem hold - you heard it here first.
London is hard - I can't for the life of me work out why Ed Davey has a personal vote from anyone at all for example. But I think he does.
"Tom Newton Dunn (@tnewtondunn) 28/03/2015 10:21 The Sun Says today: Miliband's blunt message to The Sun and our readers - he doesn't like us, or you. pic.twitter.com/EGCA8d32xE "
I think most people agree with the poster on here who said 'Sun Readers' is an oxymoron
Oh dear - your contempt for millions of Sun and earlier, Mail readers says so much more about you and Miliband's Labour brand than about them.
Everyone knows The Sunil on Sunday is the best newspaper in the world!
The breaking news is that WIND is reporting to the JNN the contents of the latest ARSE with added APLOMB 2015 General Election and "JackW Dozen" Projections. (Changes From 24th March Projection) :
Con 310 (NC) .. Lab 246 (NC) .. LibDem 32 (NC) .. SNP 35 (-1) .. PC 2 .. NI 18 .. UKIP 4 (+1) .. Respect 1 .. Green 1 .. Ind 0 .. Speaker 1
Conservatives 16 seats short of a majority ......................................................................................
"JackW Dozen" - 13 seats that will shape the General Election result :
Bury North - Con Hold Pudsey - Likely Con Hold Broxtowe - TCTC Warwickshire North - Likely Con Hold from TCTC Cambridge - LibDem Hold Ipswich - Con Hold Watford - TCTC Croydon Central - Con Hold Enfield North - TCTC Cornwall North - TCTC Great Yarmouth - Con Hold Vale of Glamorgan - Con Hold Ochil and South Perthshire - SNP Gain
Changes From 24 Mar - Warwickshire North moves from TCTC to Likely Con GAIN.
TCTC - Too Close To Call - Less than 500 votes Likely Hold/Gain - 500 - 2500 votes Gain/Hold - Over 2500 .......................................................................................
ARSE is sponsored by Auchentennach Fine Pies (Est 1745)
WIND - Whimsical Independent News Division JNN - Jacobite News Network ARSE - Anonymous Random Selection of Electors APLOMB - Auchentennach Pies Leading Outsales Mainland Britain
I was expecting a more interesting ARSE than this!
"I can't quite get why Labour are so keen to encourage transfer pricing techniques in the health sector....."
They're not. They're looking for a USP and they've decided to go left which though it might throw up a few incoherent ideas is almost certainly Labour's best chance. All the normal avenues for attacking the government are closed. The Tories have been lucky with the economy
"The Tories have been lucky with the economy".
Since those on the Left never seem to have any real understanding of market economics or how the economy works, then it is perhaps unsurprising that you think that success can only come through "luck".
Whoever wins on May 7th is going to be unlucky with the economy. The strength of the Pound versus the Euro will surely hit UK exports and boost UK imports which isn't good for manufacturing (and services) or the trade deficit. It probably won't show in the numbers until late 2015/early 2016.
"I also believe SLAB might deploy Gordon Brown, as they did in the last weeks of the referendum, to energize SLAB inclined voters. Despite all the opprobrium, must of it justified, the former PM remain a combative and effective performer in Scotland, where he retains much of his popularity."
It's always surprising to wander round Scottish cities like Aberdeen and see 'The Gordon Brown Buildings' Gordon Brown Avenue Gordon Brown Passage etc etc. The man was a Colossus
Gordon Brown is kicking off the Scottish GE today at the EICC
Will he be joining the intellectually challenged wing of SLab in wearing a black armband?
'Discussions are also underway to commemorate the 28 March anniversary of 11 SNP MPs joining the Tories to help vote down Jim Callaghan’s government in 1979. The historic vote led to the election which brought in Margaret Thatcher and heralded 17 years of Conservative rule. Proposals to mark the day include wearing a black arm band and laying a wreath at the miners’ memorial.'
"I also believe SLAB might deploy Gordon Brown, as they did in the last weeks of the referendum, to energize SLAB inclined voters. Despite all the opprobrium, must of it justified, the former PM remain a combative and effective performer in Scotland, where he retains much of his popularity."
It's always surprising to wander round Scottish cities like Aberdeen and see 'The Gordon Brown Buildings' Gordon Brown Avenue Gordon Brown Passage etc etc. The man was a Colossus
Jack's view from London is a bit eccentric, he thinks a quick stay in 5 star hotels in Edinburgh gives him the vibe, too many artifical pies methinks.
If I require any considered advice on turnip pies I'll be sure to seek out your unequalled experience.
Nice mutton or venison pie with turnip topping would go down a treat
"I also believe SLAB might deploy Gordon Brown, as they did in the last weeks of the referendum, to energize SLAB inclined voters. Despite all the opprobrium, must of it justified, the former PM remain a combative and effective performer in Scotland, where he retains much of his popularity."
It's always surprising to wander round Scottish cities like Aberdeen and see 'The Gordon Brown Buildings' Gordon Brown Avenue Gordon Brown Passage etc etc. The man was a Colossus
Gordon Brown is kicking off the Scottish GE today at the EICC
Will he be joining the intellectually challenged wing of SLab in wearing a black armband?
'Discussions are also underway to commemorate the 28 March anniversary of 11 SNP MPs joining the Tories to help vote down Jim Callaghan’s government in 1979. The historic vote led to the election which brought in Margaret Thatcher and heralded 17 years of Conservative rule. Proposals to mark the day include wearing a black arm band and laying a wreath at the miners’ memorial.'
The danger is that the minor parties go for each other and let the others come off as statesmanlike. Farage and Sturgeon have quite a compelling argument on not joining America's wars and the amateurish conduct of foreign policy in general and they should make it together.
Any SLABber or other Loyalist watching SNP Spring Conference must be pissing themselves. When did the Tories or Labour even get 3000 people at their main conference?
Just checked and Winter Gardens a pretty typical venue for the UK nationalist parties has a capacity of 1400.
"I can't quite get why Labour are so keen to encourage transfer pricing techniques in the health sector....."
They're not. They're looking for a USP and they've decided to go left which though it might throw up a few incoherent ideas is almost certainly Labour's best chance. All the normal avenues for attacking the government are closed. The Tories have been lucky with the economy
"The Tories have been lucky with the economy".
Since those on the Left never seem to have any real understanding of market economics or how the economy works, then it is perhaps unsurprising that you think that success can only come through "luck".
Whoever wins on May 7th is going to be unlucky with the economy. The strength of the Pound versus the Euro will surely hit UK exports and boost UK imports which isn't good for manufacturing (and services) or the trade deficit. It probably won't show in the numbers until late 2015/early 2016.
Very likely true, although the pound cratering due to a LAB/SNP spending spree and abandoning austerity might drive up exports, if we manage to have any business left that want to make anything.
Labour are now marketing `Hell,yes` T-shirts for a small donation.
Just ordered mine now.
Will they be made in a British factory which pays a living wage or in a foreign sweatshop like the feminist shirts were ?
That "sweatshop" was paying a living wage to someone. The someone just wasn't in the UK.
It was paying a wage, I would be interesting to hear any evidence that it was a "living wage" since that sort of concept doesn't exist in most of the third world. Since they were being accommodated 14 to a room and were working 12-16 hours shifts their living costs were minimal I suppose. Still humbug for a socialist party to support it though.
The breaking news is that WIND is reporting to the JNN the contents of the latest ARSE with added APLOMB 2015 General Election and "JackW Dozen" Projections. (Changes From 24th March Projection) :
Con 310 (NC) .. Lab 246 (NC) .. LibDem 32 (NC) .. SNP 35 (-1) .. PC 2 .. NI 18 .. UKIP 4 (+1) .. Respect 1 .. Green 1 .. Ind 0 .. Speaker 1
Conservatives 16 seats short of a majority ......................................................................................
"JackW Dozen" - 13 seats that will shape the General Election result :
Bury North - Con Hold Pudsey - Likely Con Hold Broxtowe - TCTC Warwickshire North - Likely Con Hold from TCTC Cambridge - LibDem Hold Ipswich - Con Hold Watford - TCTC Croydon Central - Con Hold Enfield North - TCTC Cornwall North - TCTC Great Yarmouth - Con Hold Vale of Glamorgan - Con Hold Ochil and South Perthshire - SNP Gain
Changes From 24 Mar - Warwickshire North moves from TCTC to Likely Con GAIN.
TCTC - Too Close To Call - Less than 500 votes Likely Hold/Gain - 500 - 2500 votes Gain/Hold - Over 2500 .......................................................................................
ARSE is sponsored by Auchentennach Fine Pies (Est 1745)
WIND - Whimsical Independent News Division JNN - Jacobite News Network ARSE - Anonymous Random Selection of Electors APLOMB - Auchentennach Pies Leading Outsales Mainland Britain
I was expecting a more interesting ARSE than this!
tut
My ARSE isn't there to provide you with a cheap thrill .... an expensive one yes, but never cheap or uninteresting.
"I also believe SLAB might deploy Gordon Brown, as they did in the last weeks of the referendum, to energize SLAB inclined voters. Despite all the opprobrium, must of it justified, the former PM remain a combative and effective performer in Scotland, where he retains much of his popularity."
It's always surprising to wander round Scottish cities like Aberdeen and see 'The Gordon Brown Buildings' Gordon Brown Avenue Gordon Brown Passage etc etc. The man was a Colossus
Gordon Brown is kicking off the Scottish GE today at the EICC
Will he be joining the intellectually challenged wing of SLab in wearing a black armband?
'Discussions are also underway to commemorate the 28 March anniversary of 11 SNP MPs joining the Tories to help vote down Jim Callaghan’s government in 1979. The historic vote led to the election which brought in Margaret Thatcher and heralded 17 years of Conservative rule. Proposals to mark the day include wearing a black arm band and laying a wreath at the miners’ memorial.'
@tnewtondunn: The Sun Says today: Miliband's blunt message to The Sun and our readers - he doesn't like us, or you. http://t.co/EGCA8d32xE
Not surprising really, it was a mistake by Ed to ban Sun journalist from the campaign announcements yesterday.
I don’t think for minute the Sun would have backed him, but Ed has now given the Sun a whole load of ammo to chuck back at him.
Silly behaviour. Even if they aren't very nice to him there's no reason not to invite them to Labour's campaign launch. Parties that want to form a majority government can afford to have a seige mentality. Even worse is his silence on Mirror Group phone hacking. The general silence in the press on phone hacking means he gets away with it but don't worry one magnificent newspaper is on the case.
Labour are now marketing `Hell,yes` T-shirts for a small donation.
Just ordered mine now.
Will they be made in a British factory which pays a living wage or in a foreign sweatshop like the feminist shirts were ?
That "sweatshop" was paying a living wage to someone. The someone just wasn't in the UK.
It was paying a wage, I would be interesting to hear any evidence that it was a "living wage" since that sort of concept doesn't exist in most of the third world. Since they were being accommodated 14 to a room and were working 12-16 hours shifts their living costs were minimal I suppose. Still humbug for a socialist party to support it though.
And that's still better than living in the village where they came from. These people have free choice, they work in the sweatshop because that is the best option for them.
The breaking news is that WIND is reporting to the JNN the contents of the latest ARSE with added APLOMB 2015 General Election and "JackW Dozen" Projections. (Changes From 24th March Projection) :
Con 310 (NC) .. Lab 246 (NC) .. LibDem 32 (NC) .. SNP 35 (-1) .. PC 2 .. NI 18 .. UKIP 4 (+1) .. Respect 1 .. Green 1 .. Ind 0 .. Speaker 1
Conservatives 16 seats short of a majority ......................................................................................
"JackW Dozen" - 13 seats that will shape the General Election result :
Bury North - Con Hold Pudsey - Likely Con Hold Broxtowe - TCTC Warwickshire North - Likely Con Hold from TCTC Cambridge - LibDem Hold Ipswich - Con Hold Watford - TCTC Croydon Central - Con Hold Enfield North - TCTC Cornwall North - TCTC Great Yarmouth - Con Hold Vale of Glamorgan - Con Hold Ochil and South Perthshire - SNP Gain
Changes From 24 Mar - Warwickshire North moves from TCTC to Likely Con GAIN.
TCTC - Too Close To Call - Less than 500 votes Likely Hold/Gain - 500 - 2500 votes Gain/Hold - Over 2500 .......................................................................................
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I was expecting a more interesting ARSE than this!
tut
My ARSE isn't there to provide you with a cheap thrill .... an expensive one yes, but never cheap or uninteresting.
I think it's Quite Interesting!
ELBOW for week-ending 29th March in about 24ish hours
Super-ELBOW for the whole of March due on 1st April!
Labour is already committed to spending an extra £2.5bn a year, paid for with the proceeds of a mansion tax.
Which is going to be a stretch since even setting the cut off at "mansions worth over £1m" will only raise £2bn, never mind the other half a dozen things they plan to buy with the same money.
Also interested to see how Labour can simultaneously repeal the Social Care Act, and not cause "upheaval and reorganisation" as Burnham promised.
"I also believe SLAB might deploy Gordon Brown, as they did in the last weeks of the referendum, to energize SLAB inclined voters. Despite all the opprobrium, must of it justified, the former PM remain a combative and effective performer in Scotland, where he retains much of his popularity."
It's always surprising to wander round Scottish cities like Aberdeen and see 'The Gordon Brown Buildings' Gordon Brown Avenue Gordon Brown Passage etc etc. The man was a Colossus
Gordon Brown is kicking off the Scottish GE today at the EICC
Will he be joining the intellectually challenged wing of SLab in wearing a black armband?
'Discussions are also underway to commemorate the 28 March anniversary of 11 SNP MPs joining the Tories to help vote down Jim Callaghan’s government in 1979. The historic vote led to the election which brought in Margaret Thatcher and heralded 17 years of Conservative rule. Proposals to mark the day include wearing a black arm band and laying a wreath at the miners’ memorial.'
Labour are now marketing `Hell,yes` T-shirts for a small donation.
Just ordered mine now.
Will they be made in a British factory which pays a living wage or in a foreign sweatshop like the feminist shirts were ?
That "sweatshop" was paying a living wage to someone. The someone just wasn't in the UK.
It was paying a wage, I would be interesting to hear any evidence that it was a "living wage" since that sort of concept doesn't exist in most of the third world. Since they were being accommodated 14 to a room and were working 12-16 hours shifts their living costs were minimal I suppose. Still humbug for a socialist party to support it though.
And that's still better than living in the village where they came from. These people have free choice, they work in the sweatshop because that is the best option for them.
You forget I live and work in the third world, I know how it is, I meet those sort of people every day, even employ quite a few!
"I can't quite get why Labour are so keen to encourage transfer pricing techniques in the health sector....."
They're not. They're looking for a USP and they've decided to go left which though it might throw up a few incoherent ideas is almost certainly Labour's best chance. All the normal avenues for attacking the government are closed. The Tories have been lucky with the economy
"The Tories have been lucky with the economy".
Since those on the Left never seem to have any real understanding of market economics or how the economy works, then it is perhaps unsurprising that you think that success can only come through "luck".
Whoever wins on May 7th is going to be unlucky with the economy. The strength of the Pound versus the Euro will surely hit UK exports and boost UK imports which isn't good for manufacturing (and services) or the trade deficit. It probably won't show in the numbers until late 2015/early 2016.
Very likely true, although the pound cratering due to a LAB/SNP spending spree and abandoning austerity might drive up exports, if we manage to have any business left that want to make anything.
Somerton and Frome Dorset West Wells Solihull Taunton Deane Chippenham Portsmouth South St Austell Berwick Cornwall North St Ives Torbay Devon North
Three way TCTC: Berwickshire
Lib Dem HOLDS - Later ones less likely to fall.
Cheadle Brecon Bath Kingston Sutton and Cheam Twickenham Hazel Grove Cheltenham Eastbourne Eastleigh Lewes Southport Carshalton Colchester Thornbury
In my opinion.
That splits into two rough blocks:
SW England = Con gains Middle class towns/suburbs = LibDem holds
Are you expecting the wwc LibDem voters in the first block to go UKIP but the lentil eaters in the second to remain anti-Conservative ?
The list of Con gains from LD's depends on the final poll numbers.However it is going to be a real challenge to get the publicity to shift the polls.First of all the debate format is less favorable than 2010,.Second media focus on the Con/Lab battle has made the Lib Dems virtually invisible, and is likely to continue to squeeze out the Lib Dems.Finally new kids on the block the SNP,Greens and UKIP are attracting more coverage than the LIbDems. at the minimum its worth reminding the eltoraue that there are 57 LD MP,s,1 Green,2 UKIP and single figures for the SNP
Any SLABber or other Loyalist watching SNP Spring Conference must be pissing themselves. When did the Tories or Labour even get 3000 people at their main conference?
Just checked and Winter Gardens a pretty typical venue for the UK nationalist parties has a capacity of 1400.
The burning question for we Scots political anoraks is whether the SNP can motivate many of its 100,000 new members to actually do any campaigning. Very easy to write a cheque or pay online to join the party, quite another to pound streets and chap on neighbours doors which reveals one's politics in the community.
Here in Caithness Sutherland and Easter Ross, a top SNP target seat, we are still awaiting our 1st piece of SNP literature even though I understand their candidate was adopted exactly a week ago. By contrast we have had no fewer than 5 communications from Lord Thurso since January. Maybe it wont make any difference but right now there is only one party fighting to win in CS &ER and it is the party on 4% in the polls in Scotland not the party on 42+%
Labour are now marketing `Hell,yes` T-shirts for a small donation.
Just ordered mine now.
Will they be made in a British factory which pays a living wage or in a foreign sweatshop like the feminist shirts were ?
That "sweatshop" was paying a living wage to someone. The someone just wasn't in the UK.
It was paying a wage, I would be interesting to hear any evidence that it was a "living wage" since that sort of concept doesn't exist in most of the third world. Since they were being accommodated 14 to a room and were working 12-16 hours shifts their living costs were minimal I suppose. Still humbug for a socialist party to support it though.
And that's still better than living in the village where they came from. These people have free choice, they work in the sweatshop because that is the best option for them.
You forget I live and work in the third world, I know how it is, I meet those sort of people every day, even employ quite a few!
And these people choose to work for you. They wouldn't have more choices if you left.
Any SLABber or other Loyalist watching SNP Spring Conference must be pissing themselves. When did the Tories or Labour even get 3000 people at their main conference?
Just checked and Winter Gardens a pretty typical venue for the UK nationalist parties has a capacity of 1400.
The burning question for we Scots political anoraks is whether the SNP can motivate many of its 100,000 new members to actually do any campaigning. Very easy to write a cheque or pay online to join the party, quite another to pound streets and chap on neighbours doors which reveals one's politics in the community.
Here in Caithness Sutherland and Easter Ross, a top SNP target seat, we are still awaiting our 1st piece of SNP literature even though I understand their candidate was adopted exactly a week ago. By contrast we have had no fewer than 5 communications from Lord Thurso since January. Maybe it wont make any difference but right now there is only one party fighting to win in CS &ER and it is the party on 4% in the polls in Scotland not the party on 42+%
I'm pretty certain that the SNP haven't started leafletting yet. It would seem a bit premature in any case, personally I don't see what use wasting resources on leafletting in March for a May election is.
As for motivation and numbers, well 3000 people at the SECC is a good indication. the fervour is undiminished at this point. I saw a twitter post the other day commenting on the 16 people** (mainly SLAB MSPs, the Go Compare man is impossible not to spot) who attended Jim Murphy's campaign launch. And contrasting this with a turnout of 32 to canvass in Campbelltown on Sunday and that's probably the most remote place in Scotland.
I would think we can be fairly sure this election won't see much fall off in SNP fervour. The test will be how much they can retain post October 2015 when the first Anniversary of the surge passes and renewals are needed and obviously May 2016.
** The photos show that SLAB actually shifted the MSPs about to make the crowd look larger.
Just catching up on yesterdays Daily Politics...Andrew Neil says neither Cameron or Osborne have given him an interview for 8 years
Why would they?
Would you make a high risk, low return bet?
Interesting analogy
I try not to, but I am not claiming to act in the interests of democracy or represent the people.. I am trying to earn a living by betting ,where being crafty and playing a tight hand etc is necessary
One of my closest friends is a Tory, not massively bothered about politics though.. talking about the debate (which he didn't watch) I said Cameron dodges question and is a bit evasive etc
He said "But thats politics isn't it?! That's what its all about"
Maybe I am naïve, but I say that isnt what its about. I would want to face my toughest opponents to show that I believed in what I said and that my vision was robust enough to withstand difficult questioning rather than hide and hope no one notices
Have you seen the interview between Enoch Powell & David Frost?
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"The Tories have been lucky with the economy".
Since those on the Left never seem to have any real understanding of market economics or how the economy works, then it is perhaps unsurprising that you think that success can only come through "luck".
SW England = Con gains
Middle class towns/suburbs = LibDem holds
Are you expecting the wwc LibDem voters in the first block to go UKIP but the lentil eaters in the second to remain anti-Conservative ?
Just ordered mine now.
"Tom Newton Dunn (@tnewtondunn)
28/03/2015 10:21
The Sun Says today: Miliband's blunt message to The Sun and our
readers - he doesn't like us, or you. pic.twitter.com/EGCA8d32xE "
I think most people agree with the poster on here who said 'Sun Readers' is an oxymoron
Watching the price and the offers get increasingly more desperate is quite funny and a good comeuppence for Mondelez but I really, really miss my usual Easter treat.
"I havent seen anything like that since the says of Livingstone and Foot."
Yes but he just sounds like a moron. Not a great posture for a political editor of any newspaper. Even the Sun
Miliband's answer to the question: "What will Britain be like if you are elected"?
It`s odd because it`s such an American expression.
Lots of NGOs are like that.
It'll be interesting to see whether SLAB utilize Gordon Brown extensively in the campaign as a rampaging big beast or just roll him out infrequently as a warm up act for Jim Murphy.
If they have any sense it will be the former.
ARSE is like a fine vintage madeira whereas ELBOW is a cheeky and youthful claret that shows promise but is still suffering from vintners acne and excessive masturbatory blindness.
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg190/Pulpstar/sam.png
More likely to be testosterone driven bikers,cowboys or gung-ho businessmen.
It seems to me that either:
(1) They know it will have mimimal practical impact - and they are lying to their voters and setting up false expectations in the search for a good soundbite
(2) They know it will drive the private sector out of the NHS and this is the deliberate policy
(3) point 2 plus they have no ideas on how to fix the NHS's fundamental problem (increasing demands in a resource limited environment) and are setting up the evil private companies unwilling to support the health of the nation as the people to blame.
I'm not sure which one of these three it is!
He may have saved the Union.
But even Gordon Brown can't save Scottish Labour.
1. Carshalton is a more likely hold than Twickenham.
2. Cambridge is a possible Conservative gain. An unlikely one, but a possible one.
I am increasingly of the view that the Conservative Party is going to do better against the LibDems than consensus, but that the LibDems will hold a couple of real surprises against Labour (although maybe not Southwark). Bradford East as LibDem hold - you heard it here first.
https://twitter.com/Sunil_P2/status/530051168790413313
tut
When asked about sweat shop made clothing
Interesting F1 qualifying. Got a potential bet or two in mind for the race.
'Discussions are also underway to commemorate the 28 March anniversary of 11 SNP MPs joining the Tories to help vote down Jim Callaghan’s government in 1979.
The historic vote led to the election which brought in Margaret Thatcher and heralded 17 years of Conservative rule. Proposals to mark the day include wearing a black arm band and laying a wreath at the miners’ memorial.'
https://archive.today/rE43D#selection-2461.0-2487.220
I don’t think for minute the Sun would have backed him, but Ed has now given the Sun a whole load of ammo to chuck back at him.
Just checked and Winter Gardens a pretty typical venue for the UK nationalist parties has a capacity of 1400.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-31999261
UKIP vs Greens
Lib Dems vs SNP
UKIP vs Everyone else
SNP vs Labour & Conservatives (Trident...) - This one particularly screws Labour.
Miliband has the trickiest balancing job I think.
But Dave's right flank could be vulnerable if Farage puts in a good show.
http://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2015/mar/06/labours-silence-on-the-mirror-group-hacking-scandal-is-deafening
ELBOW for week-ending 29th March in about 24ish hours
Super-ELBOW for the whole of March due on 1st April!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0At91c3wX1Wu5dFkzTjFrRmJRN3F6ODBTTEs4NGFhcUE&type=view&gid=0&f=true&sortcolid=-1&sortasc=true&page=2&rowsperpage=250
No mention of Hancock in Portsmouth South.
51/49 Cameron
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/27/guardian-view-capping-profit-nhs-general-election-2015
Also interesting to note in the same article: Which is going to be a stretch since even setting the cut off at "mansions worth over £1m" will only raise £2bn, never mind the other half a dozen things they plan to buy with the same money.
Also interested to see how Labour can simultaneously repeal the Social Care Act, and not cause "upheaval and reorganisation" as Burnham promised.
This is a really excellent radio series from PBS that follows the making of a T-shirt around the world
http://www.npr.org/series/248799434/planet-moneys-t-shirt-project
http://news.sky.com/story/1454188/going-it-alone-independents-launch-campaigns
at the minimum its worth reminding the eltoraue that there are 57 LD MP,s,1 Green,2 UKIP and single figures for the SNP
Here in Caithness Sutherland and Easter Ross, a top SNP target seat, we are still awaiting our 1st piece of SNP literature even though I understand their candidate was adopted exactly a week ago. By contrast we have had no fewer than 5 communications from Lord Thurso since January. Maybe it wont make any difference but right now there is only one party fighting to win in CS &ER and it is the party on 4% in the polls in Scotland not the party on 42+%
Betting PostDon't normally tip prior to putting the article up, but Raikkonen's got £73 to be top 6 on Betfair, at 1.85. I think he'll achieve that easily.
Would you make a high risk, low return bet?
As for motivation and numbers, well 3000 people at the SECC is a good indication. the fervour is undiminished at this point. I saw a twitter post the other day commenting on the 16 people** (mainly SLAB MSPs, the Go Compare man is impossible not to spot) who attended Jim Murphy's campaign launch. And contrasting this with a turnout of 32 to canvass in Campbelltown on Sunday and that's probably the most remote place in Scotland.
I would think we can be fairly sure this election won't see much fall off in SNP fervour. The test will be how much they can retain post October 2015 when the first Anniversary of the surge passes and renewals are needed and obviously May 2016.
** The photos show that SLAB actually shifted the MSPs about to make the crowd look larger.
She's asked if they are in America now.
Not a political geek.
I try not to, but I am not claiming to act in the interests of democracy or represent the people.. I am trying to earn a living by betting ,where being crafty and playing a tight hand etc is necessary
One of my closest friends is a Tory, not massively bothered about politics though.. talking about the debate (which he didn't watch) I said Cameron dodges question and is a bit evasive etc
He said "But thats politics isn't it?! That's what its all about"
Maybe I am naïve, but I say that isnt what its about. I would want to face my toughest opponents to show that I believed in what I said and that my vision was robust enough to withstand difficult questioning rather than hide and hope no one notices
Have you seen the interview between Enoch Powell & David Frost?