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  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,415
    Nicky and Jim could definitely do a hypnotic double act.

  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,587

    We seemed to miss this announcement...

    Ed Balls said extending HS2 past Birmingham made 'no economic sense'

    So he is capable of talking some sense occasionally.

    Conclusion for tonight - Some of Ed's lines a bit too rehearsed, but more memorable at least. Is that good or bad? Probably won't matter one way or the other, but if any of it can be remembered, that has to be better than not being recalled I think, given none of it was disastrous.
  • nigel4englandnigel4england Posts: 4,800
    tyson said:

    Again Nicky Morgan- every, I mean every Tory politician talks about the Clarkson affair through the prism of the misery of their offspring at him being off air.

    When can a politician ever speak unscripted? Do they really have to user their children? Please.

    Cameron did exactly that when asked about a third term and got slaughtered for answering honestly
  • DecrepitJohnLDecrepitJohnL Posts: 13,300

    Scott_P said:

    @benatipsosmori: Miliband emerged with 53% cheers to 47% boos on Twitter. First time we've seen a politician emerge with more cheers than boos overall.

    Ah, perhaps some context...

    @benatipsosmori: Labour much more disciplined online that Conservatives. Their MPs sent 358 Tweets. Conservative MPs sent just 27, #BattleforNo10

    May also explain my timeline full of win for Ed

    Tories don't seem to get that this politics is a team game.

    I bet if Labour had set up the trap to oust the speaker, they would have "whipped" them through. Same when they come on the telly, it is auto droid speak...cost of living crisis....cost of living crisis....with laser like precision.
    Conservative MPs have been uttering "long term economic plan" for weeks and we don't need to invoke triffids to understand why.

    It is not that Tory leaders don't know it is a team game: what they do not understand is that some people see things differently from them. Backbenchers weren't whipped because it really did not occur to the leadership that any self-respecting Conservative MP would not regard Bercow as the enemy within.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @gabyhinsliff: ICM: only 8% of those who saw debate said it changed their minds about how to vote. Ie, the earth has not moved http://t.co/SRoWAM5VYV
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,064
    Yes, the weightings are all wrong in this poll.

    "If there was a general election tomorrow, who would you vote for?"

    Con 28
    Lab 38
    LD 6
    UKIP 14
    SNP 5

    It even has the Tories behind in the South.

    Not sure what to make of these results now.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    Portillo moment of the week

    Ashya King and the arrogance of the big state
  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 6,313
    kle4 said:

    We seemed to miss this announcement...

    Ed Balls said extending HS2 past Birmingham made 'no economic sense'

    So he is capable of talking some sense occasionally.
    .
    Surely a high speed line only as far as Birmingham makes no sense, it is only the long distance routes that make sense. It needs to go to Edinburgh and Glasgow or not at all.

  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,533
    MaxPB said:

    Yes, the weightings are all wrong in this poll.

    "If there was a general election tomorrow, who would you vote for?"

    Con 28
    Lab 38
    LD 6
    UKIP 14
    SNP 5

    It even has the Tories behind in the South.

    Not sure what to make of these results now.

    This from the poll that gave 54/46 to Cameron in the debate, I mean interviews?
  • Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    MaxPB said:

    Yes, the weightings are all wrong in this poll.

    "If there was a general election tomorrow, who would you vote for?"

    Con 28
    Lab 38
    LD 6
    UKIP 14
    SNP 5

    It even has the Tories behind in the South.

    Not sure what to make of these results now.

    I expect Sunil will add it to Wikipedia ;-)
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,064

    MaxPB said:

    Yes, the weightings are all wrong in this poll.

    "If there was a general election tomorrow, who would you vote for?"

    Con 28
    Lab 38
    LD 6
    UKIP 14
    SNP 5

    It even has the Tories behind in the South.

    Not sure what to make of these results now.

    This from the poll that gave 54/46 to Cameron in the debate, I mean interviews?
    Yes.

    https://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/260068703?access_key=key-g7ZvILP3zN0QZVM1Pj8H&allow_share=true&escape=false&view_mode=scroll

    Page 10.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,587

    kle4 said:

    We seemed to miss this announcement...

    Ed Balls said extending HS2 past Birmingham made 'no economic sense'

    So he is capable of talking some sense occasionally.
    .
    Surely a high speed line only as far as Birmingham makes no sense, it is only the long distance routes that make sense. It needs to go to Edinburgh and Glasgow or not at all.

    The numbers they've been throwing around for the cost and the assumptions for the benefits make it seem having it all makes no sense. But then I'm no economist, I'll grant.

    Night all.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,955
    Polly spoils the party again 'Britain mourns a monster - because he was a King. Richard III's burial was absurd'

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/26/britain-king-richard-iii-tyrant#comment-49525078
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @HuffPostUKPol: No one can agree who won the election 'debate' http://t.co/0HgCR6CYtf http://t.co/lodjdqxqqG
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    isam said:

    Portillo moment of the week

    Ashya King and the arrogance of the big state

    Not factually correct though.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,533
    MaxPB said:

    MaxPB said:

    Yes, the weightings are all wrong in this poll.

    "If there was a general election tomorrow, who would you vote for?"

    Con 28
    Lab 38
    LD 6
    UKIP 14
    SNP 5

    It even has the Tories behind in the South.

    Not sure what to make of these results now.

    This from the poll that gave 54/46 to Cameron in the debate, I mean interviews?
    Yes.

    https://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/260068703?access_key=key-g7ZvILP3zN0QZVM1Pj8H&allow_share=true&escape=false&view_mode=scroll

    Page 10.
    So Cameron won despite being at a 10 point deficit to his rival with the survey group. Interesting.
  • Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    Reweighting to the UKPR average only bumps it to 55-45 Cameron, to be fair.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    HYUFD said:

    Polly spoils the party again

    Ah, Polly...

    @Mr_Eugenides: Polly on Richard III:“The one benefit of a supremely privileged family is to prove…that talent and brains are randomly assigned” Well, quite
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,064

    Reweighting to the UKPR average only bumps it to 55-45 Cameron, to be fair.

    Reweight it to the last ICM, 36 Con, 35 Lab and the picture is a little better still.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,533
    The Sunday People ✔ @thesundaypeople
    It'd be hard to have a pint with Cameron. You'd be tempted to glass him. #BattleforNo10

    I would say that has to be a spoof account...but it has the verified tick....

  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,533
    edited March 2015
    MaxPB said:

    Reweighting to the UKPR average only bumps it to 55-45 Cameron, to be fair.

    Reweight it to the last ICM, 36 Con, 35 Lab and the picture is a little better still.
    When you start to get 10-11 point margin in a two horse forced choice race...it isn't close really then.

    It was closer than that in reality.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    HYUFD said:

    Polly spoils the party again 'Britain mourns a monster - because he was a King. Richard III's burial was absurd'

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/26/britain-king-richard-iii-tyrant#comment-49525078

    Richard III is worth marking with a propet funeral. He was a bloodthirsty tyrant, but he was an important historic figure.

    Russia has Lenin on display, China has Mao, France has Napoleon. It is par for the course.

  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,955
    Scott P So says the daughter of literary critic Philip Toynbee, granddaughter of historian Arnold Toynbee and Oxford dropout
  • nigel4englandnigel4england Posts: 4,800
    Who's afraid of the big bad Woolfe!

    He is very good.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    edited March 2015

    The Sunday People ✔ @thesundaypeople
    It'd be hard to have a pint with Cameron. You'd be tempted to glass him. #BattleforNo10

    I would say that has to be a spoof account...but it has the verified tick....

    I saw a tweet from them yesterday that I assumed was a spoof.. but it seems not!

    Their website says the German police have found something significant at Pilot Lubitz's home...drugs??
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,415

    Who's afraid of the big bad Woolfe!

    He is very good.

    Indeed he is.
  • QuincelQuincel Posts: 4,042
    The sample for the post-debate poll were asked shortly before the debate who they intended to vote for. Afterwards they were asked if it had changed their answer, and if so to whom. Out of 1123:

    10 Labour voters now intend to vote...Labour
    3 Tories had their mind changed to...Tory
    2 Lib Dem voters have defected to...the Lib Dems
    4 Kippers have switched to...UKIP.
    2 'Don't Know' have been convinced by...Don't Know
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362

    The Sunday People ✔ @thesundaypeople
    It'd be hard to have a pint with Cameron. You'd be tempted to glass him. #BattleforNo10

    I would say that has to be a spoof account...but it has the verified tick....

    If that's true then I bet that lefty rag would have been one of the first attacking Clarkson and violence,double standards again from the left.

  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,955
    Fox Indeed, plus it was the most publicity Leicester has had in centuries, with a huge boost in tourism for the local economy
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,533
    edited March 2015
    The Guardian voters from marginals group definitely didn't see it as we did on PB.com (no surprise there then). They thought Cameron was good, Ed not so much so.

    "Cameron has his facts and figures to hand and is not allowing Paxman to throw him off course in giving his answers, despite tough questioning from him."

    "First time I’ve listened to Ed Miliband… Arrrr 80 minutes of it."

    "Miliband’s words sound like a fairytale. Easier said than done."

    "David v Ed question put him on the spot! Do I vote for someone who would undermine his brother like he did?"

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/mar/26/cameron-paxman-miliband-undecided-voters-poll

    I think they just surveyed SeanT?
  • ArtistArtist Posts: 1,893
    The thing I get from the ICM tables is that the people polled seem to be very politically minded, hence why they were watching and are part of the ICM panel I guess. It might be different when we get the big leadership debate on a main channel.
  • Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    Britain Elects ‏@britainelects

    SNP GAIN Glenrothes West (Fife) from Labour.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,043

    The Sunday People ✔ @thesundaypeople
    It'd be hard to have a pint with Cameron. You'd be tempted to glass him. #BattleforNo10

    I would say that has to be a spoof account...but it has the verified tick....

    If that's true then I bet that lefty rag would have been one of the first attacking Clarkson and violence,double standards again from the left.

    Bloody hell they tweet a lot.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,043
    isam said:

    The Sunday People ✔ @thesundaypeople
    It'd be hard to have a pint with Cameron. You'd be tempted to glass him. #BattleforNo10

    I would say that has to be a spoof account...but it has the verified tick....

    I saw a tweet from them yesterday that I assumed was a spoof.. but it seems not!

    Their website says the German police have found something significant at Pilot Lubitz's home...drugs??
    Whatever it is it is being taken 'for tests'. Seems like it...
  • FalseFlagFalseFlag Posts: 1,801
    Scott_P said:

    @MShapland: Reminder Miliband thinks the Dome was the biggest mistake of the last Labour Government not the Iraq war killing 100,000 #BattleForNumber10

    I was surprised, and disappointed, when Cameron didn't just say Libya when asked what his biggest regret was. The bad PR spiel answer went down badly anyway.
  • TheWatcherTheWatcher Posts: 5,262

    The Sunday People ✔ @thesundaypeople
    It'd be hard to have a pint with Cameron. You'd be tempted to glass him. #BattleforNo10

    I would say that has to be a spoof account...but it has the verified tick....

    If that's true then I bet that lefty rag would have been one of the first attacking Clarkson and violence,double standards again from the left.

    If I announced on Twitter that I wanted to glass X, PC Plod would be kicking my front door in about 15 minutes later.
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,568

    The ICM poll also asked about character.

    Ed Miliband did better than David Cameron on four counts:... having the courage to say what’s right rather than what’s popular (51% v 35%); ...

    You couldn't ask for clearer evidence that it's the public, not politicians, who are out of touch with reality.
    You feel it's time for a new electorate? Very Brechtian.

  • nigel4englandnigel4england Posts: 4,800
    Not really sure why, but Miranda Green? Yes please!

    Suppose I'm banned now.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,415
    Glenrothes West (Fife) result:
    SNP - 55.3% (+26.0)
    LAB - 35.8% (-8.5)
    CON - 4.4% (-0.4)
    UKIP - 3.2% (+3.2)
    LDEM - 1.3% (-1.3)
  • Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    Pulpstar said:

    Glenrothes West (Fife) result:
    SNP - 55.3% (+26.0)
    LAB - 35.8% (-8.5)
    CON - 4.4% (-0.4)
    UKIP - 3.2% (+3.2)
    LDEM - 1.3% (-1.3)

    The share changes are not adding up.... did an independent do well last time?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,135

    MaxPB said:

    Yes, the weightings are all wrong in this poll.

    "If there was a general election tomorrow, who would you vote for?"

    Con 28
    Lab 38
    LD 6
    UKIP 14
    SNP 5

    It even has the Tories behind in the South.

    Not sure what to make of these results now.

    I expect Sunil will add it to Wikipedia ;-)
    Which poll is this?
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,415
    Predicted Results in ward at GE using electoral calculus.

    CON 624
    LAB 3,864
    LIB 24
    SNP 3,701
    Other 201

    Glenrothes West (Fife) vote result:
    SNP - 2539
    LAB - 1643
    CON - 202
    UKIP - 146
    LDEM - 61

    Electoral Calculus has SNP at 46 seats.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,415
    edited March 2015
    Glenrothes West (Fife) vote result at 2010 GE:

    LAB 4,951 59%
    SNP 2,200 26%
    606
    621
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,415
    @Tissue_Price Is it safe to extrapolate that SNP gain Glenrothes from that lot ?
  • Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    Pulpstar said:

    @Tissue_Price Is it safe to extrapolate that SNP gain Glenrothes from that lot ?

    Not a bloody clue about the ward. But let's extrapolate anyway, safe to assume they win Kirkcaldy too.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,533
    While the press have zero interest in the Mirror hacking trial...there are amazing tit bits coming out...

    Former Daily Mirror editor Piers Morgan ordered journalists to dig for dirt on the editor of Private Eye after being mocked on a TV show a court was told today.

    Morgan appeared on the BBC’s satirical quiz show “Have I Got News for You” in May 1996. During the programme, Ian Hislop, accused him of arranging for reporters follow him around and stake out his home. During evidence at the trial of ex-Mirror reporter, Graham Brough, it was revealed that after the show Morgan instructed Brough, who was the senior reporter at the newspaper, to carry out an investigation on Hislop. However Brough later reported back that he had found nothing scandalous about the Private Eye editor as it appeared he had led a “blameless life”.
  • Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039

    MaxPB said:

    Yes, the weightings are all wrong in this poll.

    "If there was a general election tomorrow, who would you vote for?"

    Con 28
    Lab 38
    LD 6
    UKIP 14
    SNP 5

    It even has the Tories behind in the South.

    Not sure what to make of these results now.

    I expect Sunil will add it to Wikipedia ;-)
    Which poll is this?
    ICM's debate poll, with pre-debate VI. Really, don't add it :-)
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,415

    Pulpstar said:

    @Tissue_Price Is it safe to extrapolate that SNP gain Glenrothes from that lot ?

    Not a bloody clue about the ward. But let's extrapolate anyway, safe to assume they win Kirkcaldy too.
    I think if Kirkcaldy drops Scottish Labour in for a bad night !
  • Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    Pulpstar said:

    Predicted Results in ward at GE using electoral calculus.

    CON 624
    LAB 3,864
    LIB 24
    SNP 3,701
    Other 201

    Glenrothes West (Fife) vote result:
    SNP - 2539
    LAB - 1643
    CON - 202
    UKIP - 146
    LDEM - 61

    Electoral Calculus has SNP at 46 seats.

    That 61 disappointingly high for the LD's - another 50-odd votes not in Hornsey or St Ives
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    philiph said:

    Scott_P said:

    @tnewtondunn: Our #SunNation Twitter Worm final verdict: Cameron stronger against Paxman, but Miliband scored better with audience; http://t.co/6gqRpEM49K

    Exact opposite of what DH thought.

    Cameron was dire on detail with Paxo

    I don't have problem with the PM not having total knowledge of detail. In fact I think it is an advantage.

    You delegate detail when you are in the top position.

    Gordon was a detail man, and bogged down with to the point of governmental paralysis, for example.
    Exactly - Thatcher used detail to win arguments with men - Brown to control everything - for all his faults, Blair did not get bogged down in detail (indeed his weakness was preferring 'truth' to 'facts') - Cameron is similar on detail - its not his job - and unlike Blair has left ministers in place to get on top of their briefs & the detail.

    A Miliband premiership would be closer to Brown (court acolytes plotting against too mighty ministers) than Cameron or Blair........
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,415
    Last by-election was done under multi member STV.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,135

    MaxPB said:

    Yes, the weightings are all wrong in this poll.

    "If there was a general election tomorrow, who would you vote for?"

    Con 28
    Lab 38
    LD 6
    UKIP 14
    SNP 5

    It even has the Tories behind in the South.

    Not sure what to make of these results now.

    I expect Sunil will add it to Wikipedia ;-)
    Which poll is this?
    ICM's debate poll, with pre-debate VI. Really, don't add it :-)
    No I won't!
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,533
    edited March 2015

    philiph said:

    Scott_P said:

    @tnewtondunn: Our #SunNation Twitter Worm final verdict: Cameron stronger against Paxman, but Miliband scored better with audience; http://t.co/6gqRpEM49K

    Exact opposite of what DH thought.

    Cameron was dire on detail with Paxo

    I don't have problem with the PM not having total knowledge of detail. In fact I think it is an advantage.

    You delegate detail when you are in the top position.

    Gordon was a detail man, and bogged down with to the point of governmental paralysis, for example.
    Exactly - Thatcher used detail to win arguments with men - Brown to control everything - for all his faults, Blair did not get bogged down in detail (indeed his weakness was preferring 'truth' to 'facts') - Cameron is similar on detail - its not his job - and unlike Blair has left ministers in place to get on top of their briefs & the detail.

    A Miliband premiership would be closer to Brown (court acolytes plotting against too mighty ministers) than Cameron or Blair........
    It is one of the best features of the Coalition...That ministers have been generally left alone to get on with their jobs, including ones not from Cameron's party.

    It has caused Cameron difficulties when he has found his ministers are bloody incompetent e.g Caroline Spleman, but as an approach to government far better than Brown "I must personally rule on everything, from paper clip purchases to aircraft carriers".

    But we wouldn't have got for instance Webb's pension reforms with somebody like Brown at the top. He would still be arguing about the minute details and working out how to shaft the Tories over it.

    There were all those stories of just paperwork piling up under Brown, that needed to be signed off, because he wouldn't do anything until he had looked into the details of absolutely everything.

    Brown could get away with the control freaky minute detail unable to make a decision quickly when at the treasury, as your job there is a) detail and b) your whole year revolves around 2 big set pieces.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,415
    Forecast from electoral calculus for Wales:

    Con1,576
    Lab 1,181
    Lib 41
    PC 31
    Other 2,521

    Llantwit Major (Vale of Glamorgan) vote result:
    CON - 1016
    LIND - 1004
    LAB - 378
    PC - 95
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,415
    Llantwit First: John 2,068 E, Hacker 1,603 E, Williams 1,490 E, Geary 1,327 E (57%)
    Conservatives: Clifford 813, Austin 759, Downe 544, Grant 536 (23%)
    Labour: Price 541, Beech 502, Batchelor 471, Denman 411 (17%)
    Plaid Cymru: Stephens 269 (2%)
    Candidates duly nominated: Wynford Bellin (Plaid), Tony Bennett (Con), Jack Hawkins (Lab), Mick Mason (Llantwit First)
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,415
    Suggests Vale of Glamorgan is correctly priced at 2-5 for the Tories ?
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,415
    edited March 2015
    Scottish National Party:

    Brown 910 E, Walker 349, Grant 941 E (42%)
    Labour: Craik 708 E, Campbell 1,424 E (41%)
    Independents: Robertson 147, Taylor 192 (7%)
    Scottish Pensioners Party: Dawson 271 (5%)
    Conservative: Irvine 155 (3%)
    Liberal Democrat: Adamson 83 (2%)

    Last election.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    The Westminster village has come to west London to play its favourite games.

    Just how it will actually go down in the country at large, and just how much attention voters will give to 90 minutes of politics on a Thursday night several weeks before the election, won't be revealed amid the dirty coffee cups of a post-programme spin room.


    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-32080184
  • SMukeshSMukesh Posts: 1,759
    Admit just watched the highlights.

    Cameron did OK-Came across as the elder statesman.

    Miliband did well-Came across as good looking,smart and funny guy but slightly geeky.
  • SMukeshSMukesh Posts: 1,759
    And Ed seemed to get some laughs and claps,not sure Cameron did.

    Set-piece Dave struggling with his lack of spontaneous humour.
  • SMukeshSMukesh Posts: 1,759
    Unsure why Paxman`s `Are you alright Ed?`would be talking point when Ed retorted beautifully `Are you?`.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,043
    SMukesh said:

    Unsure why Paxman`s `Are you alright Ed?`would be talking point when Ed retorted beautifully `Are you?`.

    I don't think Paxman thought the mic was live.
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,723
    Daily Mail online headline (not sure about hardcopy paper):

    "'Are you OK Ed? Are you alright?' Paxman's words of comfort after mauling Miliband who is branded a 'geek' who knifed his brother in the back - as poll says Cameron wins first TV contest... but only just"

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3013387/Cameron-Miliband-face-TV-grilling-election.html#ixzz3VXyXYbJw
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  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,540
    HYUFD said:

    Polly spoils the party again 'Britain mourns a monster - because he was a King. Richard III's burial was absurd'

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/26/britain-king-richard-iii-tyrant#comment-49525078

    Richard III was not a good man, but he *is* an important part of our national story. Of course the discovery, and reburial, of his bones is a noteworthy event. It has nothing to do with forelock-tugging.
  • IndigoIndigo Posts: 9,966
    edited March 2015
    Sean_F said:

    HYUFD said:

    Polly spoils the party again 'Britain mourns a monster - because he was a King. Richard III's burial was absurd'

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/26/britain-king-richard-iii-tyrant#comment-49525078

    Richard III was not a good man, but he *is* an important part of our national story. Of course the discovery, and reburial, of his bones is a noteworthy event. It has nothing to do with forelock-tugging.
    King John Richard was not a good man —
    He had his little ways.
    And sometimes no one spoke to him
    For days and days and days.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    James Lansdale:

    An excessive amount of time and effort will now be wasted overanalysing the detail.

    There were no major gaffes, nothing to change the momentum of the campaign or end the deadlock in the polls.


    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-32081716
  • weejonnieweejonnie Posts: 3,820
    Pulpstar said:

    Artist said:
    More interestingly:

    Lib Dem supporters broke for Miliband 52% to 48%. Ukip voters for Cameron 70% to 30%.
    Is that good or bad for Dave or Ed ?
    If these are current Lib Dem/ UKIP supporters then obviously good for Dave as it suggests He'll get a boost in Lab-Con marginal as some Blue UKIPpers return to the fold to keep Ed out.
  • FlightpathFlightpath Posts: 4,012
    Sean_F said:

    HYUFD said:

    Polly spoils the party again 'Britain mourns a monster - because he was a King. Richard III's burial was absurd'

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/26/britain-king-richard-iii-tyrant#comment-49525078

    Richard III was not a good man, but he *is* an important part of our national story. Of course the discovery, and reburial, of his bones is a noteworthy event. It has nothing to do with forelock-tugging.
    She just lost the Leicester vote.
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