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    Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,820
    They just can't help themselves, can they?

    On the BBC main news page, we see this headline: "Inquiry into MP child abuse claim"

    Yes, you guessed it.

    It's absolutely systematic. No possibility of it being random, but it's probably unconscious.
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    FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195
    saddo said:

    Private Eye describes the Class War millionaire perfectly

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAd-H_2UgAIa35_.png

    Spot on
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,411

    They just can't help themselves, can they?

    On the BBC main news page, we see this headline: "Inquiry into MP child abuse claim"

    Yes, you guessed it.

    It's absolutely systematic. No possibility of it being random, but it's probably unconscious.

    He isn't even an MP now. He is a Lord....
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    isamisam Posts: 41,118
    edited March 2015

    They just can't help themselves, can they?

    On the BBC main news page, we see this headline: "Inquiry into MP child abuse claim"

    Yes, you guessed it.

    It's absolutely systematic. No possibility of it being random, but it's probably unconscious.

    Couldn't find that, but stumbled across this looking for it

    "IS Yazidi attacks may be genocide, says UN

    Jihadists from the Islamic State (IS) group may have committed genocide and war crimes against the minority Yazidi community in Iraq, the UN says."

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-31962755

    Do you think one of the young "British" girls who fled there will read out a statement from them

    "Am I bovvered?"
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    Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,820
    edited March 2015

    They just can't help themselves, can they?

    On the BBC main news page, we see this headline: "Inquiry into MP child abuse claim"

    Yes, you guessed it.

    It's absolutely systematic. No possibility of it being random, but it's probably unconscious.

    He isn't even an MP now. He is a Lord....
    Well, he was an MP at the time, but, yes, either they think the party is relevant - in which case the headline should read "Inquiry into former Labour MP child abuse claim" - or it's not, in which case other examples such as the headline about Harvey Proctor a few days ago shouldn't have mentioned the party either.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,411
    edited March 2015
    The BBC has said a Top Gear Live event in Norway next week is "still scheduled to go ahead" with Jeremy Clarkson as its star.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/11482706/Jeremy-Clarkson-could-make-his-Top-Gear-comeback-next-week-in-Norway.html

    When is a suspension not a suspension?
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,036
    isam said:

    They just can't help themselves, can they?

    On the BBC main news page, we see this headline: "Inquiry into MP child abuse claim"

    Yes, you guessed it.

    It's absolutely systematic. No possibility of it being random, but it's probably unconscious.

    Couldn't find that, but stumbled across this looking for it

    "IS Yazidi attacks may be genocide, says UN

    Jihadists from the Islamic State (IS) group may have committed genocide and war crimes against the minority Yazidi community in Iraq, the UN says."

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-31962755

    Do you think one of the young "British" girls who fled there will read out a statement from them

    "Am I bovvered?"
    "may have".. glad to see the UN is keeping up.
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    malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 42,266

    dr_spyn said:

    Scottish Nasty Party.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-31965631

    Must be a misunderstanding, mistweet, mistype or something.

    The "wings" symbol seems to obsess these oddballs. I wonder why?
    Yes you don't get these types in London parties of course, all these criminal investigations down south must be for fun
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    FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195

    They just can't help themselves, can they?

    On the BBC main news page, we see this headline: "Inquiry into MP child abuse claim"

    Yes, you guessed it.

    It's absolutely systematic. No possibility of it being random, but it's probably unconscious.

    Apologies if I am being dense but it does mention that this was a Labour MP?

    Is it that the headline does not mention it?
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,411

    They just can't help themselves, can they?

    On the BBC main news page, we see this headline: "Inquiry into MP child abuse claim"

    Yes, you guessed it.

    It's absolutely systematic. No possibility of it being random, but it's probably unconscious.

    He isn't even an MP now. He is a Lord....
    Well, he was an MP at the time, but, yes, either they think the party is relevant - in which case the headline should read "Inquiry into former Labour MP child abuse claim" - or it's not, in which case other examples such as the headline about Harvery Proctor a few days ago shouldn't have mentioned the party either.
    I am surprised they even managed to mention which party he belongs to in the text...
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    Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,820
    Floater said:

    They just can't help themselves, can they?

    On the BBC main news page, we see this headline: "Inquiry into MP child abuse claim"

    Yes, you guessed it.

    It's absolutely systematic. No possibility of it being random, but it's probably unconscious.

    Apologies if I am being dense but it does mention that this was a Labour MP?

    Is it that the headline does not mention it?
    Yes
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    malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 42,266

    TGOHF said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Scottish Nasty Party.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-31965631

    Must be a misunderstanding, mistweet, mistype or something.

    The "wings" symbol seems to obsess these oddballs. I wonder why?
    Aint called the Yestapo for nothing.

    TGOHF said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Scottish Nasty Party.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-31965631

    Must be a misunderstanding, mistweet, mistype or something.

    The "wings" symbol seems to obsess these oddballs. I wonder why?
    Aint called the Yestapo for nothing.

    You cannot like the SNP do encourage the hysteria and then absolve themselves from the results. UKIP are the same.
    The logo is mindless and clearly has encouraged a mindless reaction.
    Yes unlike those sweet London parties , you thick plankton
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    TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    malcolmg said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Scottish Nasty Party.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-31965631

    Must be a misunderstanding, mistweet, mistype or something.

    The "wings" symbol seems to obsess these oddballs. I wonder why?
    Yes you don't get these types in London parties of course, all these criminal investigations down south must be for fun
    The LD bird has wings - perhaps it's a homage to them ?

    Unsurprised to see this chap wearing a certain football strip in the photos of him posted in the media...
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    malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 42,266

    dr_spyn said:

    Scottish Nasty Party.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-31965631

    Must be a misunderstanding, mistweet, mistype or something.

    The "wings" symbol seems to obsess these oddballs. I wonder why?
    It has a 'creepy militaristic' look about it.
    says a creep
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    malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 42,266
    dr_spyn said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Scottish Nasty Party.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-31965631

    Must be a misunderstanding, mistweet, mistype or something.

    The "wings" symbol seems to obsess these oddballs. I wonder why?
    Had a look at his twitter feed - I wonder if he will close access soon. Very unpleasant tweet, it may lead to trouble with Police Scotland, think before you tweet is the lesson.

    Those were the nice ones, you should have seen the bad ones
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    CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,267
    RobD said:

    isam said:

    They just can't help themselves, can they?

    On the BBC main news page, we see this headline: "Inquiry into MP child abuse claim"

    Yes, you guessed it.

    It's absolutely systematic. No possibility of it being random, but it's probably unconscious.

    Couldn't find that, but stumbled across this looking for it

    "IS Yazidi attacks may be genocide, says UN

    Jihadists from the Islamic State (IS) group may have committed genocide and war crimes against the minority Yazidi community in Iraq, the UN says."

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-31962755

    Do you think one of the young "British" girls who fled there will read out a statement from them

    "Am I bovvered?"
    "may have".. glad to see the UN is keeping up.
    They are also destroying churches in Mosul and elsewhere. I had thought that Muslims thought of Jesus as a prophet.

    And before anyone says that they are not Muslims - destroying churches is exactly what some chief honcho Saudi Arabian cleric wants to happen. IS may not - or should not - define Islam but it is silly to pretend that they have nothing to do with it.

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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,036

    Floater said:

    They just can't help themselves, can they?

    On the BBC main news page, we see this headline: "Inquiry into MP child abuse claim"

    Yes, you guessed it.

    It's absolutely systematic. No possibility of it being random, but it's probably unconscious.

    Apologies if I am being dense but it does mention that this was a Labour MP?

    Is it that the headline does not mention it?
    Yes
    To be fair to the BBC, the place for the story on the website only gave a very small amount of space in which to put a headline.
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    As we were discussing Mr Ganesh:


    For most Britons, the election is still background noise. At some point, they will give it their fullest attention. When they do, their preference for Mr Cameron over Mr Miliband, and Tory economics over the Labour kind, could finally sway them.

    If it is not enough, the Tories can console themselves that no snazzy policy, or rousing vision or great giveaway, would have been enough either. Fundamentals must be left to do their glacial work.


    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/4a1c0274-cd6a-11i

    Another Tory commentator getting their excuses out early. Clearly they are not optimistic. Its not looking good for the blues.
    No it's not.

    I think the Tories may have overreached themselves in their project to shrink the State.

    The confusion of the banking crash just about gave them cover, but now the public are weary, and wary.

    Not enough of the public buy the excuses for needless or excessive cuts any more, and it might just cost the Tories dear.
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    Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,820
    edited March 2015
    RobD said:

    To be fair to the BBC, the place for the story on the website only gave a very small amount of space in which to put a headline.

    They don't seem to find that a problem with Conservative MPs, and in any case that doesn't apply to the main headline once you click on the story.
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    FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195
    Floater said:

    They just can't help themselves, can they?

    On the BBC main news page, we see this headline: "Inquiry into MP child abuse claim"

    Yes, you guessed it.

    It's absolutely systematic. No possibility of it being random, but it's probably unconscious.

    Apologies if I am being dense but it does mention that this was a Labour MP?

    Is it that the headline does not mention it?
    Ah, it's the fact it's hidden away in a dark corner rather than front and center.
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    TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633

    As we were discussing Mr Ganesh:


    For most Britons, the election is still background noise. At some point, they will give it their fullest attention. When they do, their preference for Mr Cameron over Mr Miliband, and Tory economics over the Labour kind, could finally sway them.

    If it is not enough, the Tories can console themselves that no snazzy policy, or rousing vision or great giveaway, would have been enough either. Fundamentals must be left to do their glacial work.


    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/4a1c0274-cd6a-11i

    Another Tory commentator getting their excuses out early. Clearly they are not optimistic. Its not looking good for the blues.
    No it's not.

    I think the Tories may have overreached themselves in their project to shrink the State.

    The confusion of the banking crash just about gave them cover, but now the public are weary, and wary.

    Not enough of the public buy the excuses for needless or excessive cuts any more, and it might just cost the Tories dear.
    But the cuts are fuelling the boom Callum - making room in the economy for private business to thrive - and the jobs figure are no accident. Same thing happened under dear old Maggie.

    When the cuts stop the growth will slow.
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    TheWatcherTheWatcher Posts: 5,262
    malcolmg said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Scottish Nasty Party.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-31965631

    Must be a misunderstanding, mistweet, mistype or something.

    The "wings" symbol seems to obsess these oddballs. I wonder why?
    It has a 'creepy militaristic' look about it.
    says a creep
    And up pops one of the lowly foot soldiers.
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    malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 42,266
    TGOHF said:

    malcolmg said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Scottish Nasty Party.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-31965631

    Must be a misunderstanding, mistweet, mistype or something.

    The "wings" symbol seems to obsess these oddballs. I wonder why?
    Yes you don't get these types in London parties of course, all these criminal investigations down south must be for fun
    The LD bird has wings - perhaps it's a homage to them ?

    Unsurprised to see this chap wearing a certain football strip in the photos of him posted in the media...
    one of his twitter names was a bit of a giveaway
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    TGOHF said:

    As we were discussing Mr Ganesh:


    For most Britons, the election is still background noise. At some point, they will give it their fullest attention. When they do, their preference for Mr Cameron over Mr Miliband, and Tory economics over the Labour kind, could finally sway them.

    If it is not enough, the Tories can console themselves that no snazzy policy, or rousing vision or great giveaway, would have been enough either. Fundamentals must be left to do their glacial work.


    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/4a1c0274-cd6a-11i

    Another Tory commentator getting their excuses out early. Clearly they are not optimistic. Its not looking good for the blues.
    No it's not.

    I think the Tories may have overreached themselves in their project to shrink the State.

    The confusion of the banking crash just about gave them cover, but now the public are weary, and wary.

    Not enough of the public buy the excuses for needless or excessive cuts any more, and it might just cost the Tories dear.
    But the cuts are fuelling the boom Callum - making room in the economy for private business to thrive - and the jobs figure are no accident. Same thing happened under dear old Maggie.

    When the cuts stop the growth will slow.
    "Cuts are fuelling the boom".... The return of Voodoo economics I see. You'll extolling the virtues of the Laffer curve next!
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,036

    RobD said:

    To be fair to the BBC, the place for the story on the website only gave a very small amount of space in which to put a headline.

    They don't seem to find that a problem with Conservative MPs, and in any case that doesn't apply to the main headline once you click on the story.
    Tory has less letters than Labour? A fair point about the full headline though.
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    SimonStClareSimonStClare Posts: 7,976
    edited March 2015
    RobD said:

    Floater said:

    They just can't help themselves, can they?

    On the BBC main news page, we see this headline: "Inquiry into MP child abuse claim"

    Yes, you guessed it.

    It's absolutely systematic. No possibility of it being random, but it's probably unconscious.

    Apologies if I am being dense but it does mention that this was a Labour MP?

    Is it that the headline does not mention it?
    Yes
    To be fair to the BBC, the place for the story on the website only gave a very small amount of space in which to put a headline.
    Indeed, and at least the BBC mentions Lord Janner's party affiliation in the text

    During their week long smear fest against Lord McAlpne (RIP) they hid the party of an MP jailed that week for fraud, in the 14th paragraph and completely failed to mention a 2nd MP's party at all.

    The BBC are improving their political reporting in leaps and bounds… ;)
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    TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633

    TGOHF said:

    As we were discussing Mr Ganesh:


    For most Britons, the election is still background noise. At some point, they will give it their fullest attention. When they do, their preference for Mr Cameron over Mr Miliband, and Tory economics over the Labour kind, could finally sway them.

    If it is not enough, the Tories can console themselves that no snazzy policy, or rousing vision or great giveaway, would have been enough either. Fundamentals must be left to do their glacial work.


    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/4a1c0274-cd6a-11i

    Another Tory commentator getting their excuses out early. Clearly they are not optimistic. Its not looking good for the blues.
    No it's not.

    I think the Tories may have overreached themselves in their project to shrink the State.

    The confusion of the banking crash just about gave them cover, but now the public are weary, and wary.

    Not enough of the public buy the excuses for needless or excessive cuts any more, and it might just cost the Tories dear.
    But the cuts are fuelling the boom Callum - making room in the economy for private business to thrive - and the jobs figure are no accident. Same thing happened under dear old Maggie.

    When the cuts stop the growth will slow.
    "Cuts are fuelling the boom".... The return of Voodoo economics I see. You'll extolling the virtues of the Laffer curve next!
    Tax revenues have risen despite raising the allowances and cutting the top rate - Laffer curve in action in the Uk.
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    malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 42,266

    malcolmg said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Scottish Nasty Party.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-31965631

    Must be a misunderstanding, mistweet, mistype or something.

    The "wings" symbol seems to obsess these oddballs. I wonder why?
    It has a 'creepy militaristic' look about it.
    says a creep
    And up pops one of the lowly foot soldiers.
    I hardly think so , just dislike hysterical jessie SNP ( aka Scotland ) haters like you and the other cretins commenting as if it was something exclusive.
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    Hengists_GiftHengists_Gift Posts: 628
    edited March 2015

    As we were discussing Mr Ganesh:


    For most Britons, the election is still background noise. At some point, they will give it their fullest attention. When they do, their preference for Mr Cameron over Mr Miliband, and Tory economics over the Labour kind, could finally sway them.

    If it is not enough, the Tories can console themselves that no snazzy policy, or rousing vision or great giveaway, would have been enough either. Fundamentals must be left to do their glacial work.


    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/4a1c0274-cd6a-11i

    Another Tory commentator getting their excuses out early. Clearly they are not optimistic. Its not looking good for the blues.
    No it's not.

    I think the Tories may have overreached themselves in their project to shrink the State.

    The confusion of the banking crash just about gave them cover, but now the public are weary, and wary.

    Not enough of the public buy the excuses for needless or excessive cuts any more, and it might just cost the Tories dear.
    Given the state of the public finances the cuts go without saying. Its not a case of overreaching, the country is just not generating enough wealth to support our obese public sector. One might question some of the choices. Borrowing additional money only to hand it over to foreign interests seem a particularly dubious practice of this government and some of its foreign adventures have proved less than successful as well but the baseline that the public spend needed to be reined in is unquestionable.
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,900

    Floater said:

    They just can't help themselves, can they?

    On the BBC main news page, we see this headline: "Inquiry into MP child abuse claim"

    Yes, you guessed it.

    It's absolutely systematic. No possibility of it being random, but it's probably unconscious.

    Apologies if I am being dense but it does mention that this was a Labour MP?

    Is it that the headline does not mention it?
    Yes
    BBC Headlines:

    Former Tory MP Harvey Proctor denies being part of 'rent-boy ring'

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-31754908

    Lord Janner: Inquiry into 'limited' child abuse investigation

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leicestershire-31961706

    Of course, only one of them is still in Parliament....the one whose party isn't in the headline....
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    MonikerDiCanioMonikerDiCanio Posts: 5,792
    malcolmg said:

    malcolmg said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Scottish Nasty Party.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-31965631

    Must be a misunderstanding, mistweet, mistype or something.

    The "wings" symbol seems to obsess these oddballs. I wonder why?
    It has a 'creepy militaristic' look about it.
    says a creep
    And up pops one of the lowly foot soldiers.
    I hardly think so , just dislike hysterical jessie SNP ( aka Scotland ) haters like you and the other cretins commenting as if it was something exclusive.
    It isn't exclusive to Scotland. There's an eccentric cleric at large in Somerset and active on the Internet who uses similar iconography.
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    FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195
    Cyclefree said:

    RobD said:

    isam said:

    They just can't help themselves, can they?

    On the BBC main news page, we see this headline: "Inquiry into MP child abuse claim"

    Yes, you guessed it.

    It's absolutely systematic. No possibility of it being random, but it's probably unconscious.

    Couldn't find that, but stumbled across this looking for it

    "IS Yazidi attacks may be genocide, says UN

    Jihadists from the Islamic State (IS) group may have committed genocide and war crimes against the minority Yazidi community in Iraq, the UN says."

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-31962755

    Do you think one of the young "British" girls who fled there will read out a statement from them

    "Am I bovvered?"
    "may have".. glad to see the UN is keeping up.
    They are also destroying churches in Mosul and elsewhere. I had thought that Muslims thought of Jesus as a prophet.

    And before anyone says that they are not Muslims - destroying churches is exactly what some chief honcho Saudi Arabian cleric wants to happen. IS may not - or should not - define Islam but it is silly to pretend that they have nothing to do with it.

    It is an unfortunate fact that Islam is not tolerant of other religions and certainly does not afford them equal status.

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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,036
    malcolmg said:

    malcolmg said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Scottish Nasty Party.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-31965631

    Must be a misunderstanding, mistweet, mistype or something.

    The "wings" symbol seems to obsess these oddballs. I wonder why?
    It has a 'creepy militaristic' look about it.
    says a creep
    And up pops one of the lowly foot soldiers.
    I hardly think so , just dislike hysterical jessie SNP ( aka Scotland ) haters like you and the other cretins commenting as if it was something exclusive.
    Didn't realise SNP = Scotland.
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    TheWatcherTheWatcher Posts: 5,262
    RobD said:

    malcolmg said:

    malcolmg said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Scottish Nasty Party.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-31965631

    Must be a misunderstanding, mistweet, mistype or something.

    The "wings" symbol seems to obsess these oddballs. I wonder why?
    It has a 'creepy militaristic' look about it.
    says a creep
    And up pops one of the lowly foot soldiers.
    I hardly think so , just dislike hysterical jessie SNP ( aka Scotland ) haters like you and the other cretins commenting as if it was something exclusive.
    Didn't realise SNP = Scotland.
    If you're not with them, you're against them.

    The 55 will rue the day.
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,900
    RobD said:

    malcolmg said:

    malcolmg said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Scottish Nasty Party.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-31965631

    Must be a misunderstanding, mistweet, mistype or something.

    The "wings" symbol seems to obsess these oddballs. I wonder why?
    It has a 'creepy militaristic' look about it.
    says a creep
    And up pops one of the lowly foot soldiers.
    I hardly think so , just dislike hysterical jessie SNP ( aka Scotland ) haters like you and the other cretins commenting as if it was something exclusive.
    Didn't realise SNP = Scotland.
    You clearly haven't been paying attention.....
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,054
    RobD said:

    malcolmg said:

    malcolmg said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Scottish Nasty Party.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-31965631

    Must be a misunderstanding, mistweet, mistype or something.

    The "wings" symbol seems to obsess these oddballs. I wonder why?
    It has a 'creepy militaristic' look about it.
    says a creep
    And up pops one of the lowly foot soldiers.
    I hardly think so , just dislike hysterical jessie SNP ( aka Scotland ) haters like you and the other cretins commenting as if it was something exclusive.
    Didn't realise SNP = Scotland.
    Neither did Ed Miliband
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    MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    Botched TV exit polls earn vote of no confidence
    Pollsters try to explain why they got the election result wrong, say many voters refused to participate


    Read more: Botched TV exit polls earn vote of no confidence | The Times of Israel http://www.timesofisrael.com/botched-tv-exit-polls-earn-vote-of-non-confidence/#ixzz3UqfAkZMq
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    NeilNeil Posts: 7,983
    TGOHF said:



    Unsurprised to see this chap wearing a certain football strip in the photos of him posted in the media...

    My favourite picture of someone in said strip was taken at a protest against "foreign" sports being played in Croke Park.
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    NeilNeil Posts: 7,983
    MikeK said:


    Pollsters try to explain why they got the election result wrong, say many voters refused to participate

    I can well imagine being too embarrassed to admit having voted for Bibi.
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,653
    New thread
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,036
    MikeK said:

    Botched TV exit polls earn vote of no confidence
    Pollsters try to explain why they got the election result wrong, say many voters refused to participate


    Read more: Botched TV exit polls earn vote of no confidence | The Times of Israel http://www.timesofisrael.com/botched-tv-exit-polls-earn-vote-of-non-confidence/#ixzz3UqfAkZMq

    Exit polls for us in 2010 were spot on, almost got the seat totals correct, too.
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    Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,820
    From the Beeb business live:
    Douglas Fraser Business and economy editor, Scotland, tweets: Oil revenue drop to £700m pa means Scottish deficit rises to 8.6% next year: UK on 4%. Gap of £7.6bn. Via @TheIFS:

    http://www.ifs.org.uk/publications/7652
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,036
    Neil said:

    MikeK said:


    Pollsters try to explain why they got the election result wrong, say many voters refused to participate

    I can well imagine being too embarrassed to admit having voted for Bibi.
    A warning if a Tory majority is predicted in the UK exit polls? Voters not wanting to admit giving Ed a vote.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,036

    New thread

    A great service... I usually get stranded on old threads wondering what is going on!
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    FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195

    As we were discussing Mr Ganesh:


    For most Britons, the election is still background noise. At some point, they will give it their fullest attention. When they do, their preference for Mr Cameron over Mr Miliband, and Tory economics over the Labour kind, could finally sway them.

    If it is not enough, the Tories can console themselves that no snazzy policy, or rousing vision or great giveaway, would have been enough either. Fundamentals must be left to do their glacial work.


    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/4a1c0274-cd6a-11i

    Another Tory commentator getting their excuses out early. Clearly they are not optimistic. Its not looking good for the blues.
    No it's not.

    I think the Tories may have overreached themselves in their project to shrink the State.

    The confusion of the banking crash just about gave them cover, but now the public are weary, and wary.

    Not enough of the public buy the excuses for needless or excessive cuts any more, and it might just cost the Tories dear.
    Where are these needless and excessive cuts? I think we should be told.

    In case you missed it we are still piling on debt at an alarming rate. and contrary to what you may have learned from Gordon there will be another recession at some stage.

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    FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195

    RobD said:

    Floater said:

    They just can't help themselves, can they?

    On the BBC main news page, we see this headline: "Inquiry into MP child abuse claim"

    Yes, you guessed it.

    It's absolutely systematic. No possibility of it being random, but it's probably unconscious.

    Apologies if I am being dense but it does mention that this was a Labour MP?

    Is it that the headline does not mention it?
    Yes
    To be fair to the BBC, the place for the story on the website only gave a very small amount of space in which to put a headline.
    Indeed, and at least the BBC mentions Lord Janner's party affiliation in the text

    During their week long smear fest against Lord McAlpne (RIP) they hid the party of an MP jailed that week for fraud, in the 14th paragraph and completely failed to mention a 2nd MP's party at all.

    The BBC are improving their political reporting in leaps and bounds… ;)
    Southam will tell you that all is well and balanced. :-)
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    weejonnieweejonnie Posts: 3,820
    Cyclefree said:

    RobD said:

    isam said:

    They just can't help themselves, can they?

    On the BBC main news page, we see this headline: "Inquiry into MP child abuse claim"

    Yes, you guessed it.

    It's absolutely systematic. No possibility of it being random, but it's probably unconscious.

    Couldn't find that, but stumbled across this looking for it

    "IS Yazidi attacks may be genocide, says UN

    Jihadists from the Islamic State (IS) group may have committed genocide and war crimes against the minority Yazidi community in Iraq, the UN says."

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-31962755

    Do you think one of the young "British" girls who fled there will read out a statement from them

    "Am I bovvered?"
    "may have".. glad to see the UN is keeping up.
    They are also destroying churches in Mosul and elsewhere. I had thought that Muslims thought of Jesus as a prophet.

    And before anyone says that they are not Muslims - destroying churches is exactly what some chief honcho Saudi Arabian cleric wants to happen. IS may not - or should not - define Islam but it is silly to pretend that they have nothing to do with it.

    The problem is that the Koran is open to interpretation. Indeed in itself it states that it is open to interpretation - which makes everyone's interpretation of the Koran equally valid.
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    MonksfieldMonksfield Posts: 2,247
    Floater said:

    As we were discussing Mr Ganesh:


    For most Britons, the election is still background noise. At some point, they will give it their fullest attention. When they do, their preference for Mr Cameron over Mr Miliband, and Tory economics over the Labour kind, could finally sway them.

    If it is not enough, the Tories can console themselves that no snazzy policy, or rousing vision or great giveaway, would have been enough either. Fundamentals must be left to do their glacial work.


    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/4a1c0274-cd6a-11i

    Another Tory commentator getting their excuses out early. Clearly they are not optimistic. Its not looking good for the blues.
    No it's not.

    I think the Tories may have overreached themselves in their project to shrink the State.

    The confusion of the banking crash just about gave them cover, but now the public are weary, and wary.

    Not enough of the public buy the excuses for needless or excessive cuts any more, and it might just cost the Tories dear.
    Where are these needless and excessive cuts? I think we should be told.

    In case you missed it we are still piling on debt at an alarming rate. and contrary to what you may have learned from Gordon there will be another recession at some stage.

    Er, Local Government, which is being shredded. At least here in Shropshire it is.

    The problem with the so-called bloated public sector is the bits that are most bloated are the bits that it is political suicide to try and pare back.
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    malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 42,266

    malcolmg said:

    malcolmg said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Scottish Nasty Party.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-31965631

    Must be a misunderstanding, mistweet, mistype or something.

    The "wings" symbol seems to obsess these oddballs. I wonder why?
    It has a 'creepy militaristic' look about it.
    says a creep
    And up pops one of the lowly foot soldiers.
    I hardly think so , just dislike hysterical jessie SNP ( aka Scotland ) haters like you and the other cretins commenting as if it was something exclusive.
    It isn't exclusive to Scotland. There's an eccentric cleric at large in Somerset and active on the Internet who uses similar iconography.
    That is a lie
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    malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 42,266
    RobD said:

    malcolmg said:

    malcolmg said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Scottish Nasty Party.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-31965631

    Must be a misunderstanding, mistweet, mistype or something.

    The "wings" symbol seems to obsess these oddballs. I wonder why?
    It has a 'creepy militaristic' look about it.
    says a creep
    And up pops one of the lowly foot soldiers.
    I hardly think so , just dislike hysterical jessie SNP ( aka Scotland ) haters like you and the other cretins commenting as if it was something exclusive.
    Didn't realise SNP = Scotland.
    No, the cretins on here think Scotland = SNP
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    FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195

    Non-paywall Sun on the GE - for those who were still wondering which party they will support:

    http://www.sunnation.co.uk/category/opinion/

    (tbh, slightly surprised, as the Sun usually likes to back a winner, and today who that will be is far from clear - and the balance of probabilities not the Sun's choice...)

    "surely the first class war​ ever​waged by a Labour millionaire with a dual-kitchened mansion.

    It was desperate, depressing​ stuff".

    Quite

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    FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195

    Non-paywall Sun on the GE - for those who were still wondering which party they will support:

    http://www.sunnation.co.uk/category/opinion/

    (tbh, slightly surprised, as the Sun usually likes to back a winner, and today who that will be is far from clear - and the balance of probabilities not the Sun's choice...)

    "surely the first class war​ ever​waged by a Labour millionaire with a dual-kitchened mansion.

    It was desperate, depressing​ stuff".

    Quite

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    NualaNuala Posts: 4
    Mr Eagle, Sir Malcolm's misdemeanours have been a grave disappointment to me.
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    AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    Liberal Democrats just criticised the SNP for not dualling the A9.

    The Liberal Democrats voted down the plan to dual the A9 and instead forced the SNP to spend the money on the disastrous Edinburgh Trams project.

    That's amazing chutzpah.
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