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    I expect that Sheffield Hallam and Thanet South will be the two most polled constituencies in this election.

    TSE
    I am the third person, that i know of, out of a relatively small group of friends in just one village (Wingham) that have been polled in the last 3 weeks alone!!
    I don't think there's been a week since the start of Jan that we or people near us haven't been phone polled.

    I can only conclude that

    1) The Lib Dems are worried they might lose here

    2) Lab are confident are winning here.
    Which constituency?
    Is their optimism justified?

    I meant to ask you-you seem very confident that Labour isnt going to make strong gains in Yorkshire-do you still feel that way and if so why??
    Sheffield Hallam.

    Yes, I'm confident that the Tories will hold on to most of their West Yorkshire seats.

    The Tories have worked the area well, they have good MPs/candidates,

    Some of the polling has been very good.

    It was no coincidence that George Osborne name checked Yorkshire in the budget.
    Thank you TSE -that is interesting.
    so Clegg -
    Toast or OK?
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    SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    Yougov back to normal service.
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    I need mind bleach because of the Sun's front page

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAadoGTUgAEQQ0i.jpg
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    notmenotme Posts: 3,293
    Oliver_PB said:

    Where have all the people who were so concerned about the deficit and national debt under Labour gone?

    We are still here, and we are still concerned. Its a warning to all politicians just how hard it is to reign in public spending once you turn the taps on. It is hard, hard, hard.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,139

    Left wing rag

    Mirror Politics ‏@MirrorPolitics 57s58 seconds ago
    George Osborne hands out sweeteners to rich and £30BILLION cuts to the poor
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/budget-2015-george-osborne-hands-5360893

    Gods, I know papers don't need to be impartial and that is not the niche they are trying to fill either, but I have to admit I prefer my partisan stuff with the veneer of impartial, aloof judgement, to lend it a bit of credibility. From the very first line of that piece (and this certainly applies to pieces from the other side of the political aisle too) I am switched right off by the language so any truths it might be imparting will be lost on me.

    Conman George Osborne doled out election bribes to the rich

    Granted it's more about pleasing the audience by interpreting the events through the prism they want, and clearly I am not deep enough inside that prism, but come on, that has to be a tad too strong doesn't it?

    The part about Ed M criticising important omissions is a bit rich too, given his history of such.
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @politicshome: Tomorrow's The Sun front page: George's epic strut http://t.co/40KtwzhB8n

    Careful, this image can NOT be unseen
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    Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411
    GIN1138 said:

    Ave_it said:

    3% swing back by May CON 36 LAB 31!!!!!!!

    That's a bit pessimistic for you AveIt?
    Yes you are right!

    CON 45 LAB 22 !!!!!!!!
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    I expect that Sheffield Hallam and Thanet South will be the two most polled constituencies in this election.

    TSE
    I am the third person, that i know of, out of a relatively small group of friends in just one village (Wingham) that have been polled in the last 3 weeks alone!!
    I don't think there's been a week since the start of Jan that we or people near us haven't been phone polled.

    I can only conclude that

    1) The Lib Dems are worried they might lose here

    2) Lab are confident are winning here.
    Which constituency?
    Is their optimism justified?

    I meant to ask you-you seem very confident that Labour isnt going to make strong gains in Yorkshire-do you still feel that way and if so why??
    Sheffield Hallam.

    Yes, I'm confident that the Tories will hold on to most of their West Yorkshire seats.

    The Tories have worked the area well, they have good MPs/candidates,

    Some of the polling has been very good.

    It was no coincidence that George Osborne name checked Yorkshire in the budget.
    Thank you TSE -that is interesting.
    so Clegg -
    Toast or OK?
    Clegg will be fine.
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    compouter2compouter2 Posts: 2,371
    Basil wanders on still.

    Crosby Messiah Outpourings in a comatose state.

    Tramadol shares continue to rally.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,054
    Dave needs to start bombing Gaza or something :P
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,139
    Scott_P said:

    @politicshome: Tomorrow's The Sun front page: George's epic strut http://t.co/40KtwzhB8n

    Careful, this image can NOT be unseen

    Your warning was not strong enough to dissuade me, and that was a mistake on my part. Others be warned!
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,869

    I need mind bleach because of the Sun's front page

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAadoGTUgAEQQ0i.jpg

    That is deeply disturbing.
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,937

    GIN1138 said:

    (Just For Fun)

    Tonight's YouGov Predicition

    Con/Lab Tie

    Just for fun 1pt Lab lead
    Hope BJESUS is this accurate
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,411
    I apologise for any PBers who have been mentally traumatized by me posting the sun front page....
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    Stark_DawningStark_Dawning Posts: 9,348

    Labour lead by one: CON 33%, LAB 34%, LD 8%, UKIP 14%, GRN 6%

    Some of this must have been sampled during or after George's imperious performance; the gap has closed since Labour's 3-point lead yesterday; so that counts as a Budget Bounce in my book.
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    All lefties should avoid the sun front page, they may never be able to keep food down again...

    tim would sadly have spontaneously combusted.

    It's not an easy view...
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    SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    Ave_it said:

    I expect Con to gain Halifax and maybe Wakefield

    If you mean by Halifax then it's as impossible for the Tories to win as Halifax.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halifax_(electoral_district)
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    TheWatcherTheWatcher Posts: 5,262

    I need mind bleach because of the Sun's front page

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAadoGTUgAEQQ0i.jpg

    That is deeply disturbing.
    Somewhere, Tim is in seventh heaven.
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    notmenotme Posts: 3,293

    I expect that Sheffield Hallam and Thanet South will be the two most polled constituencies in this election.

    TSE
    I am the third person, that i know of, out of a relatively small group of friends in just one village (Wingham) that have been polled in the last 3 weeks alone!!
    I don't think there's been a week since the start of Jan that we or people near us haven't been phone polled.

    I can only conclude that

    1) The Lib Dems are worried they might lose here

    2) Lab are confident are winning here.
    Which constituency?
    Is their optimism justified?

    I meant to ask you-you seem very confident that Labour isnt going to make strong gains in Yorkshire-do you still feel that way and if so why??
    Sheffield Hallam.

    Yes, I'm confident that the Tories will hold on to most of their West Yorkshire seats.

    The Tories have worked the area well, they have good MPs/candidates,

    Some of the polling has been very good.

    It was no coincidence that George Osborne name checked Yorkshire in the budget.
    But apparently that mean leader of the council for manchester, the labour leader has said all kinds of mean things about him, while civil war breaks out on the labour front bench about devolution of the nhs.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,139

    Labour lead by one: CON 33%, LAB 34%, LD 8%, UKIP 14%, GRN 6%

    Some of this must have been sampled during or after George's imperious performance; the gap has closed since Labour's 3-point lead yesterday; so that counts as a Budget Bounce in my book.
    The gap was already fluctuating between small Labour leads and small Tory leads - until such times the Tories open up a consistent small lead, no bounce has occurred surely?
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    Seriously that front page of the Sun is the most disturbing political image I have ever seen, and I'm someone who has imaged Yvette Cooper fellating Ed Balls
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    Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411
    Just 3.4% behind in Halifax! It's coming in!!
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    PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    There isn't enough mind bleach for that.
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,869

    I need mind bleach because of the Sun's front page

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAadoGTUgAEQQ0i.jpg

    That is deeply disturbing.
    Somewhere, Tim is in seventh heaven.
    That image is still reverberating around in my mind. I'm worried it might give me nightmares.
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    SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100

    I need mind bleach because of the Sun's front page

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAadoGTUgAEQQ0i.jpg

    That front page is a sure vote winner, for which party i'm not sure.
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    JWisemannJWisemann Posts: 1,082
    is the Sun trying to help or hinder the Tories?
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    compouter2compouter2 Posts: 2,371

    Labour lead by one: CON 33%, LAB 34%, LD 8%, UKIP 14%, GRN 6%

    Some of this must have been sampled during or after George's imperious performance; the gap has closed since Labour's 3-point lead yesterday; so that counts as a Budget Bounce in my book.
    **** SEES CLUTCHING HAND **** *** HOLDS OUT STRAW ****
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    GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,959
    edited March 2015
    Ave_it said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Ave_it said:

    3% swing back by May CON 36 LAB 31!!!!!!!

    That's a bit pessimistic for you AveIt?
    Yes you are right!

    CON 45 LAB 22 !!!!!!!!
    AveIt!!!!!!!!!!! :smiley::smiley::smiley::smiley::smiley:

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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,139
    So how doomed did the gathering feel the Tories were - very, or extremely?
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,937

    Labour lead by one: CON 33%, LAB 34%, LD 8%, UKIP 14%, GRN 6%

    Some of this must have been sampled during or after George's imperious performance; the gap has closed since Labour's 3-point lead yesterday; so that counts as a Budget Bounce in my book.
    What 3pt lead it was 2pt lead

    36-34 =2

    Even GO could work that one out
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,139

    Labour lead by one: CON 33%, LAB 34%, LD 8%, UKIP 14%, GRN 6%

    Some of this must have been sampled during or after George's imperious performance; the gap has closed since Labour's 3-point lead yesterday; so that counts as a Budget Bounce in my book.
    Even GO could work that one out
    But could Ed B?
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    dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,291
    edited March 2015
    Plato said:

    There isn't enough mind bleach for that.

    Another cupid stunt from the Sun. I might even prefer a trip to the dentist than to see that again...perhaps two trips, I have now read TSE's post re Mrs Balls.
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    isamisam Posts: 41,118

    isam said:

    isam said:

    Guardian readers will choke on their fair trade organic GM free museli and almond milk, when they first catch a glimpse of the front page...once they get past that, they will be ok though.

    ooh Almond Milk! I have just started on that its lovely!
    You aren't on the coconut water as well are you?
    YES!!!!
    Good Lord! Next we will find out that you are a Guardian reader. I sense your inner LibDem trying to get out...
    The contents of my fridge/freezer...

    Almond Milk
    Coconut Milk
    Greek Yoghurt
    Heck Chicken Sausages
    Linda McCartney Burgers
    Waitrose Chestnut & Mushroom Grills
    Turkey Rashers
    Quorn Chicken Fillets
    Sharon Fruit
    Kiwi Fruit
    Avocado

    3 Magners and bottle of Rose, been there since September

    What a wanker!!


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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,139
    dr_spyn said:

    Plato said:

    There isn't enough mind bleach for that.

    Another cupid stunt from the Sun. I might even prefer a trip to the dentist than to see that again.
    Yes, I think the Mirror wins this one - at least their cover did not horrify me with more than its words.
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    SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100

    Seriously that front page of the Sun is the most disturbing political image I have ever seen, and I'm someone who has imaged Yvette Cooper fellating Ed Balls

    Well the Sun has managed to make the Tory party seriously uncool with anyone having eyes again.
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    QuincelQuincel Posts: 3,959
    I trust people have noticed the dramatic effect last night's Ashcroft polling, and the string of YouGov leads, has had on the markets.

    Tory most seats continues to tighten on Oddschecker. Betfair has Most Seats and Next PM at the same prices of a week ago.
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    compouter2compouter2 Posts: 2,371
    Speedy said:

    I need mind bleach because of the Sun's front page

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAadoGTUgAEQQ0i.jpg

    That front page is a sure vote winner, for which party i'm not sure.
    Fantastic stuff!
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,869
    Photo of Richard Nabavi explaining how the economy would have been if Michael Foot had won:

    http://www.startres.net/startresWP/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/3702A.jpg
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    Seriously that front page of the Sun is the most disturbing political image I have ever seen, and I'm someone who has imaged Yvette Cooper fellating Ed Balls

    It's an image, I really don't want to see ever again so will people please stop replying to links to it...

    New thread please and no doubt OGH will have the long missed 'your front pages David' that used to arise years ago...
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    Oliver_PBOliver_PB Posts: 397
    notme said:

    Oliver_PB said:

    Where have all the people who were so concerned about the deficit and national debt under Labour gone?

    We are still here, and we are still concerned. Its a warning to all politicians just how hard it is to reign in public spending once you turn the taps on. It is hard, hard, hard.
    The issue isn't reigning in public spending, it's that we now have huge unfunded tax cuts.
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    PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    OT If you had to pick a silent slapstick star - who would you prefer Harold Lloyd, Buster Keaton or Charlie Chaplin or another? I'm looking for movies from this era
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,789
    edited March 2015

    Seriously that front page of the Sun is the most disturbing political image I have ever seen, and I'm someone who has imaged Yvette Cooper fellating Ed Balls

    It's an image, I really don't want to see ever again so will people please stop replying to links to it...

    New thread please and no doubt OGH will have the long missed 'your front pages David' that used to arise years ago...
    If only I was doing the morning thread.

    I'd be embedding that Sun Front page into the thread header.
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @politicshome: Tomorrow's Independent front page: Osborne throws the kitchen sink at Miliband http://t.co/islPqhWo9X
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    dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,291
    I hope all of you had a great evening out last night.
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,869
    Plato said:

    There isn't enough mind bleach for that.

    My eyes....my eyes.....

    Please stop re-posting it!

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    SMukeshSMukesh Posts: 1,650
    Is it true that Crosby originally predicted crossover in September,then December,then January,then March and now predicts crossover after Easter?

    PB Tories to follow the lead?
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    Indie front page is good for George... well well.

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    another_richardanother_richard Posts: 25,181
    Judging by Richard Nabavi's comment on the previous thread the PB Tories are very sensitive to having Osborne's 2010 budget predictions compared with the out turn.

    Their usual guff about 'unexpected events' is hilariously demolished by George Osborne himself from this BBC interview in January 2010

    "we risk a Greek style budget crisis that will put interest rates up and people watching this programme will see their mortgages go up, they'll see businesses go bust, and we will be back in recession."

    So how can Osborne be making references to the Greek crisis if that was so unexpected to Richard Nabavi ?

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8489984.stm

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    Can PBers not embed this front page of the Sun into their posts

    https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/578322915768299520
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    Is Jockophobia the defining narrative of this election campaign:

    Bill Jamieson: Beware rise of a new ‘Jockophobia’

    http://www.scotsman.com/news/bill-jamieson-beware-rise-of-a-new-jockophobia-1-3721190
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    And on that note, good night everybody.
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    SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    edited March 2015
    Scott_P said:

    @politicshome: Tomorrow's Independent front page: Osborne throws the kitchen sink at Miliband http://t.co/islPqhWo9X

    Too late, the Sun has destroyed the Osborne budget in a single blow.
    And with a front page that will live in infamy alongside "Freddie Star ate my Hamster".
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    SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    @SMukesh
    Lynton or.......
    Nahh couldn't be could it?
    *shudders*
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    Stark_DawningStark_Dawning Posts: 9,348

    Labour lead by one: CON 33%, LAB 34%, LD 8%, UKIP 14%, GRN 6%

    Some of this must have been sampled during or after George's imperious performance; the gap has closed since Labour's 3-point lead yesterday; so that counts as a Budget Bounce in my book.
    What 3pt lead it was 2pt lead

    36-34 =2

    Even GO could work that one out
    Yes, you're quite right. It's these Labour supporters on here that do it - always making paltry Labour leads sound so much bigger than they actually are.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,054
    Ave_it said:

    I expect Con to gain Halifax and maybe Wakefield

    Shit. There's the kiss of death for Halifax.
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    Can PBers not embed this front page of the Sun into their posts

    https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/578322915768299520

    Just be thankful. It could have been Balls or Miliband.....
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    Pulpstar said:

    Ave_it said:

    I expect Con to gain Halifax and maybe Wakefield

    Shit. There's the kiss of death for Halifax.
    Ave It is a great tipster, he was the first PBer to predict Boris Johnson to run as London Mayor back in 2006.
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    I needed a new picture whilst crossback has temporarily happened. Bye bye Basil for now..
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    PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    Turkey Dinosaurs [my vice]
    Salmon fillets
    Crushed garlic
    French beans
    Green and red peppers
    Leeks
    Turkey and bacon rashers
    Mangetout
    Corn
    Mushrooms
    Savoy cabbage
    Carrots
    Plum tomatoes
    Charlotte potatoes
    Bean sprouts
    Courgettes
    Lots of chicken breast and lamb.

    It's a job to just eat them before they evolve into something at the bottom of the fridge.
    isam said:

    isam said:

    isam said:

    Guardian readers will choke on their fair trade organic GM free museli and almond milk, when they first catch a glimpse of the front page...once they get past that, they will be ok though.

    ooh Almond Milk! I have just started on that its lovely!
    You aren't on the coconut water as well are you?
    YES!!!!
    Good Lord! Next we will find out that you are a Guardian reader. I sense your inner LibDem trying to get out...
    The contents of my fridge/freezer...

    Almond Milk
    Coconut Milk
    Greek Yoghurt
    Heck Chicken Sausages
    Linda McCartney Burgers
    Waitrose Chestnut & Mushroom Grills
    Turkey Rashers
    Quorn Chicken Fillets
    Sharon Fruit
    Kiwi Fruit
    Avocado

    3 Magners and bottle of Rose, been there since September

    What a wanker!!


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    SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    @Plato
    Top class foodbank down your way?
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    notmenotme Posts: 3,293
    isam said:

    isam said:

    isam said:

    Guardian readers will choke on their fair trade organic GM free museli and almond milk, when they first catch a glimpse of the front page...once they get past that, they will be ok though.

    ooh Almond Milk! I have just started on that its lovely!
    You aren't on the coconut water as well are you?
    YES!!!!
    Good Lord! Next we will find out that you are a Guardian reader. I sense your inner LibDem trying to get out...
    The contents of my fridge/freezer...

    Almond Milk
    Coconut Milk
    Greek Yoghurt
    Heck Chicken Sausages
    Linda McCartney Burgers
    Waitrose Chestnut & Mushroom Grills
    Turkey Rashers
    Quorn Chicken Fillets
    Sharon Fruit
    Kiwi Fruit
    Avocado

    3 Magners and bottle of Rose, been there since September

    What a wanker!!


    That would be a 'liberal metropolitan elite' fridge contents. You would have your babbies taking away from you up here if you had a fridge like that.

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    compouter2compouter2 Posts: 2,371
    SMukesh said:

    Is it true that Crosby originally predicted crossover in September,then December,then January,then March and now predicts crossover after Easter?

    PB Tories to follow the lead?

    It makes the Tory HQ's public admittance that they fully expected the crossover to happen in January(after a couple of Tory leads in January) look quite good.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,411
    I thought the grapevine was saying the Sun were going to come out as big Tory supporters for the forthcoming GE...funny way of showing it.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,139

    Is Jockophobia the defining narrative of this election campaign:

    Bill Jamieson: Beware rise of a new ‘Jockophobia’

    http://www.scotsman.com/news/bill-jamieson-beware-rise-of-a-new-jockophobia-1-3721190

    An interesting take on the deteriorating relations between these nations - and a real fear. I don't see how it can be avoided. It's all very well getting upset that English voters might not like Scotland voting in dozens of SNP MPs, I'd be irritated if Scotland whined about how England voted (scratch that, they already don't like that - we'll say Wales instead)but the SNP does want to destroy the Union, so there is bound to be more concern about them being kingmakers rather than the same old Labour placeholders, that leads to more bitterness and anger. Those placeholders in theory might feel some larger duty to the entire country as well as their local constituents and Scotland as a whole, whereas the SNP MPs will have no worries about such at all, and it would be unreasonable to expect them to, nor do they pretend to.
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,937
    These have got Lab getting closer and likely EICIPM again

    http://electionforecast.co.uk/
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    Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411

    Pulpstar said:

    Ave_it said:

    I expect Con to gain Halifax and maybe Wakefield

    Shit. There's the kiss of death for Halifax.
    Ave It is a great tipster, he was the first PBer to predict Boris Johnson to run as London Mayor back in 2006.
    Thanks TSE!

    You know Ave it leads the way.

    Seriously though I am not convinced we will get an overall majority this time...

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    PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    Eh? You are very strange. Or is it just one-eyed?

    I can't tell if you think that someone on ESA can't buy leeks or that you think I'm a sponger on the State - neither is correct.
    Smarmeron said:

    @Plato
    Top class foodbank down your way?

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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,139
    Is a fridge check the new thing when discussing politics? Fair enough *checks frridge/

    Milk
    Butter (well, margarine I guess)
    Cheese
    Turkey sandwich slices
    Mayonnaise (...what, I don't even like mayonnaise, what's that doing in there)
    Eggs

    Hmm, even though it's not usually quite that bare (and the fruit and veg is in the pantry), it might be time to go to the shop.
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    Ave_it said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Ave_it said:

    I expect Con to gain Halifax and maybe Wakefield

    Shit. There's the kiss of death for Halifax.
    Ave It is a great tipster, he was the first PBer to predict Boris Johnson to run as London Mayor back in 2006.
    Thanks TSE!

    You know Ave it leads the way.

    Seriously though I am not convinced we will get an overall majority this time...

    I'm hopeful we can be the largest party.

    Though long term, politically speaking, a minority Lab govt backed by the SNP maybe the best thing ever for the Tory Party.
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    another_richardanother_richard Posts: 25,181
    From Osborne's 2010 budget comes this amusing snippet:

    "By 2014-15 borrowing reaches £37 billion, exactly half the amount forecast in the March Budget. In 2015-16, borrowing falls further to £20 billion."

    So not only has Osborne borrowed more money than he predicted he's also borrowed more money than Darling was planning to.

    Notice also that for the above two years borrowing will be over £100bn more than Osborne predicted.

    Puts the 'penny off a pint' into perspective doesn't it.
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    PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    What's a Heck Chicken? Like Blinkin' Heck?

    I'm feeling very rustic.
    notme said:

    isam said:

    isam said:

    isam said:

    Guardian readers will choke on their fair trade organic GM free museli and almond milk, when they first catch a glimpse of the front page...once they get past that, they will be ok though.

    ooh Almond Milk! I have just started on that its lovely!
    You aren't on the coconut water as well are you?
    YES!!!!
    Good Lord! Next we will find out that you are a Guardian reader. I sense your inner LibDem trying to get out...
    The contents of my fridge/freezer...

    Almond Milk
    Coconut Milk
    Greek Yoghurt
    Heck Chicken Sausages
    Linda McCartney Burgers
    Waitrose Chestnut & Mushroom Grills
    Turkey Rashers
    Quorn Chicken Fillets
    Sharon Fruit
    Kiwi Fruit
    Avocado

    3 Magners and bottle of Rose, been there since September

    What a wanker!!


    That would be a 'liberal metropolitan elite' fridge contents. You would have your babbies taking away from you up here if you had a fridge like that.

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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    So Chris Leslie has no better answers.

    @GuidoFawkes: Chris Leslie making noise, but no sense. #Newsnight
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    the sooner the clear blue lead returns, the sooner I can ditch this....
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    compouter2compouter2 Posts: 2,371

    From Osborne's 2010 budget comes this amusing snippet:

    "By 2014-15 borrowing reaches £37 billion, exactly half the amount forecast in the March Budget. In 2015-16, borrowing falls further to £20 billion."

    So not only has Osborne borrowed more money than he predicted he's also borrowed more money than Darling was planning to.

    Notice also that for the above two years borrowing will be over £100bn more than Osborne predicted.

    Puts the 'penny off a pint' into perspective doesn't it.

    Don't you come on here with your facts. He is a financial wizzard don't you know.
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    RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Plato said:

    OT If you had to pick a silent slapstick star - who would you prefer Harold Lloyd, Buster Keaton or Charlie Chaplin or another? I'm looking for movies from this era

    I'd probably rate them in the order you gave, although Chaplin did have a great ensemble of supporting players.
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    Stark_DawningStark_Dawning Posts: 9,348
    Excellent headline for Ozzy in The Sun. Personally, I think those MoneySupermarket ads are insufferably naff, but they do have something of a cult following amongst the crucial demographic of the daytime TV viewer. The Sun might have just won the Tories the general election!
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    Ishmael_XIshmael_X Posts: 3,664
    Plato said:

    Eh? You are very strange. Or is it just one-eyed?

    I can't tell if you think that someone on ESA can't buy leeks or that you think I'm a sponger on the State - neither is correct.

    Smarmeron said:

    @Plato
    Top class foodbank down your way?

    Smarmie claims his deep freeze is full of stolen meat which he liberated from right under the Sheriff of Nottingham's nose with a clothyard arrow. Or something. Ignore on this (and frankly all other) topics.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,139
    Anyone else oddly pleased by this?

    A DNA study of Britons has shown that genetically there is not a unique Celtic group of people in the UK.

    According to the data, those of Celtic ancestry in Scotland and Cornwall are more similar to the English than they are to other Celtic groups.


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-31905764
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    SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100

    I thought the grapevine was saying the Sun were going to come out as big Tory supporters for the forthcoming GE...funny way of showing it.

    Seriously I'm feeling sick after I looked at it, I'm going to the bathroom in the hope the cold water on my face will prevent me from vomiting.
    Goodnight.
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    PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    edited March 2015
    Margarine? Really? Just taste the name - it's edible Nylon or Polyester.

    Urgh. It was revolting in the 1970s as Stork, what on Earth made you buy it?
    kle4 said:

    Is a fridge check the new thing when discussing politics? Fair enough *checks frridge/

    Milk
    Butter (well, margarine I guess)
    Cheese
    Turkey sandwich slices
    Mayonnaise (...what, I don't even like mayonnaise, what's that doing in there)
    Eggs

    Hmm, even though it's not usually quite that bare (and the fruit and veg is in the pantry), it might be time to go to the shop.

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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,937
    kle4 said:

    Is a fridge check the new thing when discussing politics? Fair enough *checks frridge/

    Milk
    Butter (well, margarine I guess)
    Cheese
    Turkey sandwich slices
    Mayonnaise (...what, I don't even like mayonnaise, what's that doing in there)
    Eggs

    Hmm, even though it's not usually quite that bare (and the fruit and veg is in the pantry), it might be time to go to the shop.

    Whats a fridge.

    I only have a pantry
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    SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    @Plato
    Sorry. You live of a diet of leek soup do you? And the other stuff is for the cats?
    I should have realised.
    And of course, you are the only truly sick person on ESA, everyone else is a scrounger.
    How could I have misjudged you so?
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    compouter2compouter2 Posts: 2,371

    the sooner the clear blue lead returns, the sooner I can ditch this....

    That will be on there for many many months.
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    GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,959
    Anybody got any theories why Labour has clearly retaken the lead this week?

    Is it just a case of Dave Is Crap Is PM? Or something else?
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    Hengists_GiftHengists_Gift Posts: 628
    edited March 2015
    kle4 said:

    Is Jockophobia the defining narrative of this election campaign:

    Bill Jamieson: Beware rise of a new ‘Jockophobia’

    http://www.scotsman.com/news/bill-jamieson-beware-rise-of-a-new-jockophobia-1-3721190

    An interesting take on the deteriorating relations between these nations - and a real fear. I don't see how it can be avoided. It's all very well getting upset that English voters might not like Scotland voting in dozens of SNP MPs, I'd be irritated if Scotland whined about how England voted (scratch that, they already don't like that - we'll say Wales instead)but the SNP does want to destroy the Union, so there is bound to be more concern about them being kingmakers rather than the same old Labour placeholders, that leads to more bitterness and anger. Those placeholders in theory might feel some larger duty to the entire country as well as their local constituents and Scotland as a whole, whereas the SNP MPs will have no worries about such at all, and it would be unreasonable to expect them to, nor do they pretend to.
    I think its pretty much inevitable but I think its only just dawning on many Scots largely because they have been so inward looking about the whole issue they've never thought how the English might react. As for Sturgeon being a calming influence I can't see it when she is already recommending that English voters vote for the Greens. Yhis is going to get exceedingly messy especially if Labour do try and squeeze them out.

    SNP: Labour's plans to offer nothing in return for propping up Miliband government are not facing reality

    http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/wider-political-news/snp-labour-plans-to-offer-nationalists-nothing-in-return-for-propping-.120919561

    And stories like this will really stir it up:

    Sturgeon becomes UK's best paid politician - on paper

    http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/scottish-politics/sturgeon-becomes-uks-best-paid-politician-on-paper.120874379

    Troughin' Scots!
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    PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    edited March 2015
    I unconciously put them in that order - I love Harold Lloyd, but plaudits to Chaplin for films like Gold Rush. Eating the shoe was perfection. youtube.com/watch?v=gY0DOnNK3Wg
    RodCrosby said:

    Plato said:

    OT If you had to pick a silent slapstick star - who would you prefer Harold Lloyd, Buster Keaton or Charlie Chaplin or another? I'm looking for movies from this era

    I'd probably rate them in the order you gave, although Chaplin did have a great ensemble of supporting players.
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    SMukeshSMukesh Posts: 1,650

    Milk
    Goats cheese
    Tropicana carton
    Yoghurt x 2
    Butter
    Tomatoes
    Garlic
    Ginger
    Mint
    Mushrooms
    Cakes x 2
    Eggs
    Blueberries
    Pomegranates x 2
    Corn
    (Half a bottle of wine and an unopened bottle of San Miguel on top of the fridge)
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    compouter2compouter2 Posts: 2,371
    GIN1138 said:

    Anybody got any theories why Labour has clearly retaken the lead this week?

    Is it just a case of Dave Is Crap Is PM? Or something else?

    Basil got bored with sleeping all the time and the DWP was chasing him to look for other jobs.
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    isamisam Posts: 41,118
    Plato said:

    What's a Heck Chicken? Like Blinkin' Heck?

    I'm feeling very rustic.

    notme said:

    isam said:

    isam said:

    isam said:

    Guardian readers will choke on their fair trade organic GM free museli and almond milk, when they first catch a glimpse of the front page...once they get past that, they will be ok though.

    ooh Almond Milk! I have just started on that its lovely!
    You aren't on the coconut water as well are you?
    YES!!!!
    Good Lord! Next we will find out that you are a Guardian reader. I sense your inner LibDem trying to get out...
    The contents of my fridge/freezer...

    Almond Milk
    Coconut Milk
    Greek Yoghurt
    Heck Chicken Sausages
    Linda McCartney Burgers
    Waitrose Chestnut & Mushroom Grills
    Turkey Rashers
    Quorn Chicken Fillets
    Sharon Fruit
    Kiwi Fruit
    Avocado

    3 Magners and bottle of Rose, been there since September

    What a wanker!!


    That would be a 'liberal metropolitan elite' fridge contents. You would have your babbies taking away from you up here if you had a fridge like that.

    Sausages made of chicken... Made by heck! V nice too
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,937
    Dave is chicken inappropriate PM

    DICIPM
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    SimonStClareSimonStClare Posts: 7,976
    SeanT said:

    Strange, wistful trailer for creepy, mysterious Dutch thriller "Ijstweeling".
    .

    Congratulations on the success of your twin sister's book btw - why do you think it has become so popular with the Dutch?

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    SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    @bigjohnowls
    On the present trajectory, Dave is clucked.
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    PClippPClipp Posts: 2,138
    currystar said:

    What I don't understand is how people think labour will be better for the country given the quite amazing record of the coalition on employment creation. In Hampshire I would think we are nearing zero unemployment. Wherever you look there are signs advertising job vacancies . In the construction industry industry anyone who has a skill is working if they want too . If this coalition is voted out by the British people in May they can leave office with their heads held high for a job well done . Who in 2010 with the disgusting mess left by labour would have predicted that the economic situation in 2015 would be as good as it is for the UK.

    Yes indeed, Lib Dem 2010 voters and Lib Dem ministers can take a lot of the credit for that, Mr Star.

    Conservative priorities were quite different from the eventual Coalition ones.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,139
    edited March 2015
    Plato said:

    Margarine? Really? Just taste the name - it's edible Nylon or Polyester.

    Urgh. It was revolting in the 1970s as Stork, what on Earth made you buy it?

    kle4 said:

    Is a fridge check the new thing when discussing politics? Fair enough *checks frridge/

    Milk
    Butter (well, margarine I guess)
    Cheese
    Turkey sandwich slices
    Mayonnaise (...what, I don't even like mayonnaise, what's that doing in there)
    Eggs

    Hmm, even though it's not usually quite that bare (and the fruit and veg is in the pantry), it might be time to go to the shop.

    I am informed by posher associates that what I consider and refer to as 'butter' is in fact merely fancy margarine that is aping butter, but it tastes great to me. The only memory I have of experiencing genuine butter was cutting freezing slices off a lump to futilely place on a crumpet once as a child. Truly, a terrible time indeed.

    Actually, there was an amusing list on habits picked up growing up poor I recall (and have just refound) which began with developing a taste for bad food as a big one. Might well be true for some I guess.

    http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-5-stupidest-habits-you-develop-growing-up-poor/

    kle4 said:

    Is a fridge check the new thing when discussing politics? Fair enough *checks frridge/

    Milk
    Butter (well, margarine I guess)
    Cheese
    Turkey sandwich slices
    Mayonnaise (...what, I don't even like mayonnaise, what's that doing in there)
    Eggs

    Hmm, even though it's not usually quite that bare (and the fruit and veg is in the pantry), it might be time to go to the shop.

    Whats a fridge.

    I only have a pantry
    I recall an intense discussion on here once, which I may have sparked, on whether a pantry and a larder are the same thing, and if so, which is posher. What would be your take on this vital debate?
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    Stark_DawningStark_Dawning Posts: 9,348
    GIN1138 said:

    Anybody got any theories why Labour has clearly retaken the lead this week?

    Is it just a case of Dave Is Crap Is PM? Or something else?

    Polling respondents exercising their British sense of balance and fair play before the Budget.
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,937
    GIN1138 said:

    Anybody got any theories why Labour has clearly retaken the lead this week?

    Is it just a case of Dave Is Crap Is PM? Or something else?

    Still about level in fairness methinks

    That makes Lab most seats at GT 3.0 amazing IMO

    Best Value on EICIPM has been taken now LT 2.5 last time i looked
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    PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    Your increasingly bizarre personal attacks are comical.

    So someone who votes Blue Team can't be ill or claim benefits and even if they don't they're target fodder? Based on eating fresh vegetables?

    A bird waking up at 5pm would eat you.
    Smarmeron said:

    @Plato
    Sorry. You live of a diet of leek soup do you? And the other stuff is for the cats?
    I should have realised.
    And of course, you are the only truly sick person on ESA, everyone else is a scrounger.
    How could I have misjudged you so?

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    MyBurningEarsMyBurningEars Posts: 3,651
    edited March 2015
    isam said:

    Guardian readers will choke on their fair trade organic GM free museli and almond milk, when they first catch a glimpse of the front page...once they get past that, they will be ok though.

    ooh Almond Milk! I have just started on that its lovely!
    isam said:

    isam said:

    isam said:

    Guardian readers will choke on their fair trade organic GM free museli and almond milk, when they first catch a glimpse of the front page...once they get past that, they will be ok though.

    ooh Almond Milk! I have just started on that its lovely!
    You aren't on the coconut water as well are you?
    YES!!!!
    Good Lord! Next we will find out that you are a Guardian reader. I sense your inner LibDem trying to get out...
    The contents of my fridge/freezer...

    Almond Milk
    Coconut Milk
    Greek Yoghurt
    Heck Chicken Sausages
    Linda McCartney Burgers
    Waitrose Chestnut & Mushroom Grills
    Turkey Rashers
    Quorn Chicken Fillets
    Sharon Fruit
    Kiwi Fruit
    Avocado

    3 Magners and bottle of Rose, been there since September

    What a wanker!!



    Bleedin' 'eck.

    This is a result of your overexposure to Londonness. If you lived at a safe distance - like, say, Basildon or Pitsea or Grays - you'd have been better inoculated from liberal metropolitanism.

    For the really safe option, there's always Jaywick Sands.
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    SMukeshSMukesh Posts: 1,650
    Plato said:

    Your increasingly bizarre personal attacks are comical.

    So someone who votes Blue Team can't be ill or claim benefits and even if they don't they're target fodder? Based on eating fresh vegetables?

    A bird waking up at 5pm would eat you.

    Smarmeron said:

    @Plato
    Sorry. You live of a diet of leek soup do you? And the other stuff is for the cats?
    I should have realised.
    And of course, you are the only truly sick person on ESA, everyone else is a scrounger.
    How could I have misjudged you so?

    Am always happy to be eaten by a bird,no matter what time she wakes up.
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