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Maybe because it was mid-week in a new venue but last night’s PB London Gathering didn’t attract the numbers that we have got used to. Still about 20 made the trip to a congenial pub close to Liverpool Street station for what turned out to be a really good evening.

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    Pulpstar

    Sorry does that mean you don't want Labour to win or you do??
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    DavidLDavidL Posts: 51,337
    Nabavi is not nearly so impressive without his wig.
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    FPT - Populus used to do the Tory private polling but they use Crosby Textor these days (and have done so for a while)
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    In the least surprising news of the day....

    @robindbrant
    looks like @TheSunNewspaper - unsurprisingly - heading towards endorsing @Conservatives if you're listening to @StigAbell on @SkyNewsBreak
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    Why is Antifrank wearing a flashers coat?
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    MikeSmithsonMikeSmithson Posts: 7,382

    Why is Antifrank wearing a flashers coat?

    Be careful he's a lawyer


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    As a rule, Thursday/Friday night PB bashes work well for us Northern Monkeys.
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    Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411
    Thursdays and Fridays generally good for me too!
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    MP_SEMP_SE Posts: 3,642
    If I was Labour I would ask for a refund on that polling as it is trash.

    No big changes in the odds on offer, UKIP shortening slightly and that is about it.
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    SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    edited March 2015
    By the way while I was away for 2 weeks I had the opportunity to airbrush my constituency polls file and crunch some numbers with the new constituency polls:

    From a total of 157 constituency polls (80 Tory seats, 41 LD seats, 35 Labour and one Green), the Tories lose 45 seats and gain 9, Labour gain 52 seats and lose 17 (all of them scottish), the LD lose 20, UKIP gain 3 and the SNP gains 21.

    In total the percentage changes of votes since the last election is CON -7%, LAB +0.5%, LD -12.5%, UKIP +13.5%, SNP/GRN +5%, that result is pretty much in line with the national polls with the noticeable exception that the LD retain far more votes at the expense of mostly the Tories.

    Further more I broke down the constituency polls into regional swings.
    The Tory to Labour swing in Tory held seats is by region and size:

    London: 6%
    E.Midlands: 6%
    S.W. England : 6%
    S.E. : 5.5%
    N.W. :5.5%
    W.Midlands: 4.5%
    Yorkshire: 4.5%
    East England: 4%
    Wales : 3%
    Scotland: -5%
    N. England: Not enough polls.

    The Tory to UKIP swing Tory held seats is by region and size:

    London: 7.5%
    E.Midlands: 11.5%
    S.W. England : 11%
    S.E. : 16%
    N.W. :11%
    W.Midlands: 11%
    Yorkshire: 10.5%
    East England: 13.5%
    Wales :8%
    Scotland: 0%
    N. England: Not enough polls.

    There were not any new constituency polls in LD seats( apart from scotland) so the numbers are the same with the Tories doing exceptionally badly in the S.E against them and Labour doing exceptionally good against the LD with double digit swings almost everywhere except the SE and the W.Midlands.

    The new factor has been scotland with the SNP recording swings of 24% against Labour and 21% against the LD.

    I also introduced a new element based again solely on the seats that have been polled, a 3.5% error margin in the constituency polls and established a best and worst case for each party using that margin of error.

    CON Best case 293 seats.
    CON Worst case 242 seats.

    LAB Best case 318 seats.
    LAB Worst case 246 seats.

    SNP Best case 58 seats.
    SNP Worst case 21 seats.

    LD Best case 41 seats.
    LD Worst case 15 seats.

    UKIP Best case 17 seats.
    UKIP worst case 1 seat.

    Also take into account that the Tories and LD cannot be both at the upper range since the are competing in some seats, hence the best case for the Coalition is CON 293, LD 26 seats and the worst case is CON 242, LD 33 seats.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,941
    What a disappointment, I was expecting those Cheerleaders for the American football team D:
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    PClippPClipp Posts: 2,138

    Why is Antifrank wearing a flashers coat?

    Are you suggesting it is not his own?
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    PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    Shame on you, it'd be Vivienne Westwood. And plaid. Or was it tartan?
    PClipp said:

    Why is Antifrank wearing a flashers coat?

    Are you suggesting it is not his own?
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    MarkHopkinsMarkHopkins Posts: 5,584

    All my illusions are shattered.

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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,436

    Why is Antifrank wearing a flashers coat?

    So much LOL!
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    No English team in the QF of the CL yet again - let Spurs in we've got 100% record of reaching them!
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,436

    FPT - Populus used to do the Tory private polling but they use Crosby Textor these days (and have done so for a while)

    If that's what they're using to pump up their troops it sounds a load of BS.
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    FPT - Populus used to do the Tory private polling but they use Crosby Textor these days (and have done so for a while)

    If that's what they're using to pump up their troops it sounds a load of BS.
    I'm fairly certain the Tories didn't carry out that the Thanet South poll.

    It was done by ComRes
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    foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Sorry to have missed it. Midweek drinkies were not possible with on 0800 start on Wednesday.

    Did anything come together for a midlands drinkies the week before Broxtowe's day of decision?
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    SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100

    FPT - Populus used to do the Tory private polling but they use Crosby Textor these days (and have done so for a while)

    If that's what they're using to pump up their troops it sounds a load of BS.
    I'm fairly certain the Tories didn't carry out that the Thanet South poll.

    It was done by ComRes
    When will it be published (if ever?).
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    Speedy said:

    FPT - Populus used to do the Tory private polling but they use Crosby Textor these days (and have done so for a while)

    If that's what they're using to pump up their troops it sounds a load of BS.
    I'm fairly certain the Tories didn't carry out that the Thanet South poll.

    It was done by ComRes
    When will it be published (if ever?).
    If it is a private poll, then it never will be published.
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    nigel4englandnigel4england Posts: 4,800

    No English team in the QF of the CL yet again - let Spurs in we've got 100% record of reaching them!

    We made the SF last year and won it three years ago, in fact our record is very good.
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    Spectator front page: Britain Is Working http://t.co/YajJQGag57
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    MP_SEMP_SE Posts: 3,642

    Speedy said:

    FPT - Populus used to do the Tory private polling but they use Crosby Textor these days (and have done so for a while)

    If that's what they're using to pump up their troops it sounds a load of BS.
    I'm fairly certain the Tories didn't carry out that the Thanet South poll.

    It was done by ComRes
    When will it be published (if ever?).
    If it is a private poll, then it never will be published.
    Unless it is used for Lib Dem style bar chart leaflets providing Labour come 2nd in the polling.
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    SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100

    Speedy said:

    FPT - Populus used to do the Tory private polling but they use Crosby Textor these days (and have done so for a while)

    If that's what they're using to pump up their troops it sounds a load of BS.
    I'm fairly certain the Tories didn't carry out that the Thanet South poll.

    It was done by ComRes
    When will it be published (if ever?).
    If it is a private poll, then it never will be published.
    Depends on the results and if the one who pays the bill likes it.
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    I expect that Sheffield Hallam and Thanet South will be the two most polled constituencies in this election.
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    Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411
    YOUGOV soon :lol:
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    jayfdeejayfdee Posts: 618


    All my illusions are shattered.

    Yes a bit like when you see radio presenters in the flesh,I will stay behind my Jayfdee image for now,but it may be exposed soon.

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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,883
    Obvious IMO from todays budget response that EIC and the DPM dislike each other massively
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    roserees64roserees64 Posts: 251
    Osborne looked very tired and strained today, must have been revising his speech over and over again. It was a lack-lustre performance. Miliband seem to grow in stature today, a bravura performance which was widely praised.He has been underestimated by all and sundry.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285

    Osborne looked very tired and strained today, must have been revising his speech over and over again. It was a lack-lustre performance. Miliband seem to grow in stature today, a bravura performance which was widely praised.He has been underestimated by all and sundry.

    Hi Ed.....
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    MikeSmithsonMikeSmithson Posts: 7,382
    So Barcelona only able to do as well as Burnley against Man City - a 1-0 victory at home
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    foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    @Speedy

    Thanks for the analysis. It seems UNS is not dead (Scotland excluded). How the interparty swings all fit together though!
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    TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 40,210
    Pulpstar said:

    What a disappointment, I was expecting those Cheerleaders for the American football team D:

    Well, there may be a couple of pom pom boys..
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    notmenotme Posts: 3,293
    Scott_P said:

    Spectator front page: Britain Is Working http://t.co/YajJQGag57

    It is nothing less than a jobs miracle. I regularly peruse over the monthly labour market survey stats produced within my county. Over the last eighteen months to two years ive seen the most extraordinary drops in unemployment. And within circles of friends i know, people who have been out of work for long before the crash, are now back working. In many cases it just wasnt worth people putting in the genuine effort to look for work, because the payback was minimal compared to benefits. One person specifically went back to work because of the financial implications of the bedroom tax, her son left home for university. She is now a store manager working fifty to sixty hours a week and absolutely loves it.

    Another one was getting a bit of earache so took up volunteering in a youth project (i wrote her a reference), she now works thirty hours for the organisation. Another one, out of work for some time, quite capable, likeable person, but he kind of just floated into the role of looking after the young children while his wife worked part time. He got rang up and asked if he wanted to come to an interview, for a company he hadnt even applied for. Again, he now works all the hours god sends.

    Welfare reform has truly had a massive positive impact on lives of many people.
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    Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411

    Osborne looked very tired and strained today, must have been revising his speech over and over again. It was a lack-lustre performance. Miliband seem to grow in stature today, a bravura performance which was widely praised.He has been underestimated by all and sundry.

    :lol::lol::lol:
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    notmenotme Posts: 3,293
    Ave_it said:

    Osborne looked very tired and strained today, must have been revising his speech over and over again. It was a lack-lustre performance. Miliband seem to grow in stature today, a bravura performance which was widely praised.He has been underestimated by all and sundry.

    :lol::lol::lol:
    I know, bless.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,941
    Cons are "due" a lead in Yougov, #gamblersfallacy
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,436

    Osborne looked very tired and strained today, must have been revising his speech over and over again. It was a lack-lustre performance.

    It wasn't the speech he wanted to deliver.
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    foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548

    Osborne looked very tired and strained today, must have been revising his speech over and over again. It was a lack-lustre performance. Miliband seem to grow in stature today, a bravura performance which was widely praised.He has been underestimated by all and sundry.

    I must have missed that bit. The excerpt I heard at lunchtime was a rather lame string of cliches. Maybe that was why you liked it....
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    MikeSmithsonMikeSmithson Posts: 7,382
    Why is Stodge at an angle?
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,883

    Osborne looked very tired and strained today, must have been revising his speech over and over again. It was a lack-lustre performance. Miliband seem to grow in stature today, a bravura performance which was widely praised.He has been underestimated by all and sundry.

    I was shocked how good Ed was
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    SimonStClareSimonStClare Posts: 7,976
    edited March 2015
    Fat Steve is half the man I expected. :wink:
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    SquareRootSquareRoot Posts: 7,095

    Osborne looked very tired and strained today, must have been revising his speech over and over again. It was a lack-lustre performance. Miliband seem to grow in stature today, a bravura performance which was widely praised.He has been underestimated by all and sundry.

    I must have missed that bit. The excerpt I heard at lunchtime was a rather lame string of cliches. Maybe that was why you liked it....
    Ed same old same old crap.. The Tories let us down.. NHS NHS NHS devoid of anything positive to say.. expect more of the same till polling day.
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    notme said:

    Scott_P said:

    Spectator front page: Britain Is Working http://t.co/YajJQGag57

    It is nothing less than a jobs miracle. I regularly peruse over the monthly labour market survey stats produced within my county. Over the last eighteen months to two years ive seen the most extraordinary drops in unemployment. And within circles of friends i know, people who have been out of work for long before the crash, are now back working. In many cases it just wasnt worth people putting in the genuine effort to look for work, because the payback was minimal compared to benefits. One person specifically went back to work because of the financial implications of the bedroom tax, her son left home for university. She is now a store manager working fifty to sixty hours a week and absolutely loves it.....
    Welfare reform has truly had a massive positive impact on lives of many people.
    There are certainly signs of this. Such a shame that our broadcasting media focus on those folk who cannot cope or refuse to work. We would have a better society if the reforms that Labour started and IDS put a rocket behind are carried on. Maybe Rachel Reeves means what she says in that Labour are changing into the party for the working? For my children's future I hope so.
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @BBCNewsnight: Coming up on Newsnight's #Budget2015 special: @EvanHD grills @DavidGauke and @ChrisLeslieMP on their plans for the economy...

    I wonder is Chris has read the briefing notes yet

    @DavidGauke: On @Channel4News earlier with Chris Leslie. He was asked 9 times how much Labour would cut spending or increase taxes in 2016-18. No answer.
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    I expect that Sheffield Hallam and Thanet South will be the two most polled constituencies in this election.

    TSE
    I am the third person, that i know of, out of a relatively small group of friends in just one village (Wingham) that have been polled in the last 3 weeks alone!!
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    edited March 2015
    Scott_P said:

    @BBCNewsnight: Coming up on Newsnight's #Budget2015 special: @EvanHD grills @DavidGauke and @ChrisLeslieMP on their plans for the economy...

    I wonder is Chris has read the briefing notes yet

    @DavidGauke: On @Channel4News earlier with Chris Leslie. He was asked 9 times how much Labour would cut spending or increase taxes in 2016-18. No answer.

    Evan Davis "grills" = asks a question, then constantly interrupts with his opinion, before we get chance to hear the answer.
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    MP_SEMP_SE Posts: 3,642

    I expect that Sheffield Hallam and Thanet South will be the two most polled constituencies in this election.

    TSE
    I am the third person, that i know of, out of a relatively small group of friends in just one village (Wingham) that have been polled in the last 3 weeks alone!!
    Have they said who the polling company was?

    I imagine it will get like how it was in Newark where everyone is sick with being pestered and want the GE to come and go quickly.
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    isamisam Posts: 40,952

    No English team in the QF of the CL yet again - let Spurs in we've got 100% record of reaching them!

    Hi, saw your post re quietness from Carswell... he is back on the tweets in the last hour but they are pro UKIP and anti Tory so I guess Farage must have nicked his phone again
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    notmenotme Posts: 3,293

    notme said:

    Scott_P said:

    Spectator front page: Britain Is Working http://t.co/YajJQGag57

    It is nothing less than a jobs miracle. I regularly peruse over the monthly labour market survey stats produced within my county. Over the last eighteen months to two years ive seen the most extraordinary drops in unemployment. And within circles of friends i know, people who have been out of work for long before the crash, are now back working. In many cases it just wasnt worth people putting in the genuine effort to look for work, because the payback was minimal compared to benefits. One person specifically went back to work because of the financial implications of the bedroom tax, her son left home for university. She is now a store manager working fifty to sixty hours a week and absolutely loves it.....
    Welfare reform has truly had a massive positive impact on lives of many people.
    There are certainly signs of this. Such a shame that our broadcasting media focus on those folk who cannot cope or refuse to work. We would have a better society if the reforms that Labour started and IDS put a rocket behind are carried on. Maybe Rachel Reeves means what she says in that Labour are changing into the party for the working? For my children's future I hope so.
    Absolutely give labour credit for starting reform towards the end of their term of office. But could you imagine how successful it would have been if it was done during that long sustained boom we had. We had people sitting on the couch doing nothing, while employers couldnt get people to work, so recruited them en masse from overseas.

    The get tough approach, work capability tests, benefits sanctions, workfare were all things that the last government initiated, but have also been the focus of the current oppositions political fire. Its going to be tough to implement tough reforms, when even the mildest changes were opposed.

    FFS, they thought that a £26k benefits cap (thats a cap, not a freeze, for the dimwitted on here) was wrong!
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    SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    edited March 2015

    @Speedy

    Thanks for the analysis. It seems UNS is not dead (Scotland excluded). How the interparty swings all fit together though!

    The mechanics of UNS still apply to the vast majority of seats, but you need to adjust it because of strong regional factors if parts of the country behave radically different (example the S.W in 1997 and the strong anti-Tory tactical vote there).

    Trying to predict seat outcomes is like trying to rebuilt John Harrisons first sea clock.
    http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/79139.html

    There are now all kinds of springs and gears which react differently if party X does much better in region A than party Y in region B and Party Z in region C.

    A simplified solution is to get the national swing to Labour, add to it about 1.5% and then subtract 40 seats from Labour to compensate for Scotland.
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    Osborne looked very tired and strained today, must have been revising his speech over and over again. It was a lack-lustre performance. Miliband seem to grow in stature today, a bravura performance which was widely praised.He has been underestimated by all and sundry.

    Don't tell me and then you woke up? I'm no Tory but that certainly wasn 't what I saw today. Osborne was on form. Perhaps overly so considering the state of the economy. Miliband well I hear he has done worse but let's face it he's just not really much cop at this speaking lark
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    Guardian readers will choke on their fair trade organic GM free museli and almond milk, when they first catch a glimpse of the front page...once they get past that, they will be ok though.
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    I expect that Sheffield Hallam and Thanet South will be the two most polled constituencies in this election.

    TSE
    I am the third person, that i know of, out of a relatively small group of friends in just one village (Wingham) that have been polled in the last 3 weeks alone!!
    I don't think there's been a week since the start of Jan that we or people near us haven't been phone polled.

    I can only conclude that

    1) The Lib Dems are worried they might lose here

    2) Lab are confident are winning here.
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    Have they said who the polling company was?

    I imagine it will get like how it was in Newark where everyone is sick with being pestered and want the GE to come and go quickly.


    I asked and it was Comres
    I have asked my friends to let me know who polls them-they know i am a sad git who spends half my life lurking PB !! Sadly the other 2 didn't know.

    I think you are probably right about polling fatigue-it may well explain why it has taken Comres a week to carry out this survey.
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    notmenotme Posts: 3,293

    Osborne looked very tired and strained today, must have been revising his speech over and over again. It was a lack-lustre performance. Miliband seem to grow in stature today, a bravura performance which was widely praised.He has been underestimated by all and sundry.

    Don't tell me and then you woke up? I'm no Tory but that certainly wasn 't what I saw today. Osborne was on form. Perhaps overly so considering the state of the economy. Miliband well I hear he has done worse but let's face it he's just not really much cop at this speaking lark
    If you want to see how an opposition leader should respond to a budget, you should have seen Dave's last two. Totally astonishingly good parliamentary performances. Each budget was ripped apart, by the time he sat down, you could see the grim uncomfortable faces on the government benches.
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    isamisam Posts: 40,952

    Guardian readers will choke on their fair trade organic GM free museli and almond milk, when they first catch a glimpse of the front page...once they get past that, they will be ok though.

    ooh Almond Milk! I have just started on that its lovely!
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    If this Thanet South poll is Comres I wonder if its the Mail trying to rattle some cages?
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    PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    OT Anyone watching The Flash? Blimey - that was a great episode last night. The use of Marvel and DC Comic characters has taken the industry by storm in recent years.
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    steve_garnersteve_garner Posts: 1,019
    Tomorrow's Times editorial opines that it did not sound like the budget of a chancellor who expected it to be his last.
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    notme said:

    Osborne looked very tired and strained today, must have been revising his speech over and over again. It was a lack-lustre performance. Miliband seem to grow in stature today, a bravura performance which was widely praised.He has been underestimated by all and sundry.

    Don't tell me and then you woke up? I'm no Tory but that certainly wasn 't what I saw today. Osborne was on form. Perhaps overly so considering the state of the economy. Miliband well I hear he has done worse but let's face it he's just not really much cop at this speaking lark
    If you want to see how an opposition leader should respond to a budget, you should have seen Dave's last two. Totally astonishingly good parliamentary performances. Each budget was ripped apart, by the time he sat down, you could see the grim uncomfortable faces on the government benches.
    I probably did watch them but any memories of Cameron's oratory prowess have long since faded. Far too much water under the bridge.....
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    I expect that Sheffield Hallam and Thanet South will be the two most polled constituencies in this election.

    TSE
    I am the third person, that i know of, out of a relatively small group of friends in just one village (Wingham) that have been polled in the last 3 weeks alone!!
    I don't think there's been a week since the start of Jan that we or people near us haven't been phone polled.

    I can only conclude that

    1) The Lib Dems are worried they might lose here

    2) Lab are confident are winning here.
    Which constituency?
    Is their optimism justified?

    I meant to ask you-you seem very confident that Labour isnt going to make strong gains in Yorkshire-do you still feel that way and if so why??
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    SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100

    I expect that Sheffield Hallam and Thanet South will be the two most polled constituencies in this election.

    TSE
    I am the third person, that i know of, out of a relatively small group of friends in just one village (Wingham) that have been polled in the last 3 weeks alone!!
    I don't think there's been a week since the start of Jan that we or people near us haven't been phone polled.

    I can only conclude that

    1) The Lib Dems are worried they might lose here

    2) Lab are confident are winning here.
    May I mention who was the first to suggest that Clegg was in trouble?
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    Mirror with a measured response to the budget....

    https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/578319599495725056
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    isam said:

    Guardian readers will choke on their fair trade organic GM free museli and almond milk, when they first catch a glimpse of the front page...once they get past that, they will be ok though.

    ooh Almond Milk! I have just started on that its lovely!
    You aren't on the coconut water as well are you?
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,883

    Tomorrow's Times editorial opines that it did not sound like the budget of a chancellor who expected it to be his last.

    The Times is a Tory rag though.
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    isamisam Posts: 40,952

    isam said:

    Guardian readers will choke on their fair trade organic GM free museli and almond milk, when they first catch a glimpse of the front page...once they get past that, they will be ok though.

    ooh Almond Milk! I have just started on that its lovely!
    You aren't on the coconut water as well are you?
    YES!!!!
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,883
    Left wing rag

    Mirror Politics ‏@MirrorPolitics 57s58 seconds ago
    George Osborne hands out sweeteners to rich and £30BILLION cuts to the poor
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/budget-2015-george-osborne-hands-5360893
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    currystarcurrystar Posts: 1,171
    notme said:

    Scott_P said:

    Spectator front page: Britain Is Working http://t.co/YajJQGag57

    It is nothing less than a jobs miracle. I regularly peruse over the monthly labour market survey stats produced within my county. Over the last eighteen months to two years ive seen the most extraordinary drops in unemployment. And within circles of friends i know, people who have been out of work for long before the crash, are now back working. In many cases it just wasnt worth people putting in the genuine effort to look for work, because the payback was minimal compared to benefits. One person specifically went back to work because of the financial implications of the bedroom tax, her son left home for university. She is now a store manager working fifty to sixty hours a week and absolutely loves it.

    Another one was getting a bit of earache so took up volunteering in a youth project (i wrote her a reference), she now works thirty hours for the organisation. Another one, out of work for some time, quite capable, likeable person, but he kind of just floated into the role of looking after the young children while his wife worked part time. He got rang up and asked if he wanted to come to an interview, for a company he hadnt even applied for. Again, he now works all the hours god sends.

    Welfare reform has truly had a massive positive impact on lives of many people.
    Superb post
    What I don't understand is how people think labour will be better for the country given the quite amazing record of the coalition on employment creation. In Hampshire I would think we are nearing zero unemployment. Wherever you look there are signs advertising job vacancies . In the construction industry industry anyone who has a skill is working if they want too . If this coalition is voted out by the British people in May they can leave office with their heads held high for a job well done . Who in 2010 with the disgusting mess left by labour would have predicted that the economic situation in 2015 would be as good as it is for the UK. Mr 5 million unemployed Blanchflower?
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    If this Thanet South poll is Comres I wonder if its the Mail trying to rattle some cages?

    Well the way the way the questions were worded it wasnt pro-tory!!

    Another point I forgot to mention: when asking who I voted for they asked by candidate name followed by party in the order of Labour, Liberal , UKIP , Conservative.

    That is not alphabetical by either candidates name or Party-is that good practice?
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    isamisam Posts: 40,952
    It was touted about on here that Tim Aker might not get much support from UKIP HQ in his quest to be MP for Thurrock...

    Michael Heaver ‏@Michael_Heaver · 1h1 hour ago
    Tomorrow's @ThurrockGazette front page featuring @Tim_Aker and @Nigel_Farage #Thurrock pic.twitter.com/f6CqrtBRtj

    Tim Aker MEP ‏@Tim_Aker · 54m54 minutes ago
    The @ThurrockGazette is, as always, essential reading pic.twitter.com/uFSW9azwKx


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    isam said:

    isam said:

    Guardian readers will choke on their fair trade organic GM free museli and almond milk, when they first catch a glimpse of the front page...once they get past that, they will be ok though.

    ooh Almond Milk! I have just started on that its lovely!
    You aren't on the coconut water as well are you?
    YES!!!!
    You are my wife and I claim £5 !!
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,883
    currystar said:

    notme said:

    Scott_P said:

    Spectator front page: Britain Is Working http://t.co/YajJQGag57

    It is nothing less than a jobs miracle. I regularly peruse over the monthly labour market survey stats produced within my county. Over the last eighteen months to two years ive seen the most extraordinary drops in unemployment. And within circles of friends i know, people who have been out of work for long before the crash, are now back working. In many cases it just wasnt worth people putting in the genuine effort to look for work, because the payback was minimal compared to benefits. One person specifically went back to work because of the financial implications of the bedroom tax, her son left home for university. She is now a store manager working fifty to sixty hours a week and absolutely loves it.

    Another one was getting a bit of earache so took up volunteering in a youth project (i wrote her a reference), she now works thirty hours for the organisation. Another one, out of work for some time, quite capable, likeable person, but he kind of just floated into the role of looking after the young children while his wife worked part time. He got rang up and asked if he wanted to come to an interview, for a company he hadnt even applied for. Again, he now works all the hours god sends.

    Welfare reform has truly had a massive positive impact on lives of many people.
    Superb post
    What I don't understand is how people think labour will be better for the country given the quite amazing record of the coalition on employment creation. In Hampshire I would think we are nearing zero unemployment. Wherever you look there are signs advertising job vacancies . In the construction industry industry anyone who has a skill is working if they want too . If this coalition is voted out by the British people in May they can leave office with their heads held high for a job well done . Who in 2010 with the disgusting mess left by labour would have predicted that the economic situation in 2015 would be as good as it is for the UK. Mr 5 million unemployed Blanchflower?
    5 million is the number of low paid workers in poverty isn't it?
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    TheWatcherTheWatcher Posts: 5,262

    Osborne looked very tired and strained today, must have been revising his speech over and over again. It was a lack-lustre performance. Miliband seem to grow in stature today, a bravura performance which was widely praised.He has been underestimated by all and sundry.

    I was shocked how good Ed was
    He stood up without soiling himself?
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    Ishmael_XIshmael_X Posts: 3,664

    Tomorrow's Times editorial opines that it did not sound like the budget of a chancellor who expected it to be his last.

    The Times is a Tory rag though.
    Not sure on this page whether roserees or the Mirror headline better illustrates the sheer desperation of the left. I think the Mirror edges it, though, and I'll leave them a message on my voicemail to congratulate them.
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    I expect that Sheffield Hallam and Thanet South will be the two most polled constituencies in this election.

    TSE
    I am the third person, that i know of, out of a relatively small group of friends in just one village (Wingham) that have been polled in the last 3 weeks alone!!
    I don't think there's been a week since the start of Jan that we or people near us haven't been phone polled.

    I can only conclude that

    1) The Lib Dems are worried they might lose here

    2) Lab are confident are winning here.
    Which constituency?
    Is their optimism justified?

    I meant to ask you-you seem very confident that Labour isnt going to make strong gains in Yorkshire-do you still feel that way and if so why??
    Sheffield Hallam.

    Yes, I'm confident that the Tories will hold on to most of their West Yorkshire seats.

    The Tories have worked the area well, they have good MPs/candidates,

    Some of the polling has been very good.

    It was no coincidence that George Osborne name checked Yorkshire in the budget.
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    Hengists_GiftHengists_Gift Posts: 628
    edited March 2015

    If this Thanet South poll is Comres I wonder if its the Mail trying to rattle some cages?

    Well the way the way the questions were worded it wasnt pro-tory!!

    Another point I forgot to mention: when asking who I voted for they asked by candidate name followed by party in the order of Labour, Liberal , UKIP , Conservative.

    That is not alphabetical by either candidates name or Party-is that good practice?
    I beiieve its normal (best) practice to rotate the order of the parties for each respondent so that none of the parties get preferential positioning.

    PS Just be thankful they didn't ask whether people thought that Mackinlay was a UKIP reject or not......
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    Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411
    I expect Con to gain Halifax and maybe Wakefield
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285

    currystar said:

    notme said:

    Scott_P said:

    Spectator front page: Britain Is Working http://t.co/YajJQGag57

    It is nothing less than a jobs miracle. I regularly peruse over the monthly labour market survey stats produced within my county. Over the last eighteen months to two years ive seen the most extraordinary drops in unemployment. And within circles of friends i know, people who have been out of work for long before the crash, are now back working. In many cases it just wasnt worth people putting in the genuine effort to look for work, because the payback was minimal compared to benefits. One person specifically went back to work because of the financial implications of the bedroom tax, her son left home for university. She is now a store manager working fifty to sixty hours a week and absolutely loves it.

    Another one was getting a bit of earache so took up volunteering in a youth project (i wrote her a reference), she now works thirty hours for the organisation. Another one, out of work for some time, quite capable, likeable person, but he kind of just floated into the role of looking after the young children while his wife worked part time. He got rang up and asked if he wanted to come to an interview, for a company he hadnt even applied for. Again, he now works all the hours god sends.

    Welfare reform has truly had a massive positive impact on lives of many people.
    Superb post
    What I don't understand is how people think labour will be better for the country given the quite amazing record of the coalition on employment creation. In Hampshire I would think we are nearing zero unemployment. Wherever you look there are signs advertising job vacancies . In the construction industry industry anyone who has a skill is working if they want too . If this coalition is voted out by the British people in May they can leave office with their heads held high for a job well done . Who in 2010 with the disgusting mess left by labour would have predicted that the economic situation in 2015 would be as good as it is for the UK. Mr 5 million unemployed Blanchflower?
    5 million is the number of low paid workers in poverty isn't it?
    Complete bollocks...there are not 5 million people in poverty in the UK, let alone 5 million low paid workers in poverty.
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    Oliver_PBOliver_PB Posts: 397
    edited March 2015
    Where have all the people who were so concerned about the deficit and national debt under Labour gone?
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    isamisam Posts: 40,952
    Apparently no activists were going to go and help Aker


    Tim Aker MEP @Tim_Aker
    · Mar 17
    Great to have had BBC @daily_politics reporting on the UKIP campaign here in #Thurrock. We can win here. http://youtu.be/Bp5JFFcUuW4?a

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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,883
    edited March 2015
    Tonights YG EICIPM
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    Ishmael_XIshmael_X Posts: 3,664

    Osborne looked very tired and strained today, must have been revising his speech over and over again. It was a lack-lustre performance. Miliband seem to grow in stature today, a bravura performance which was widely praised.He has been underestimated by all and sundry.

    I was shocked how good Ed was
    He stood up without soiling himself?
    Well that's how Labour are spinning it...
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,867
    isam said:

    No English team in the QF of the CL yet again - let Spurs in we've got 100% record of reaching them!

    Hi, saw your post re quietness from Carswell... he is back on the tweets in the last hour but they are pro UKIP and anti Tory so I guess Farage must have nicked his phone again
    I don't know how he finds the time, as he surely wouldn't trust an underling with such pickpocketing duties.
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    SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    isam said:

    It was touted about on here that Tim Aker might not get much support from UKIP HQ in his quest to be MP for Thurrock...

    Michael Heaver ‏@Michael_Heaver · 1h1 hour ago
    Tomorrow's @ThurrockGazette front page featuring @Tim_Aker and @Nigel_Farage #Thurrock pic.twitter.com/f6CqrtBRtj

    Tim Aker MEP ‏@Tim_Aker · 54m54 minutes ago
    The @ThurrockGazette is, as always, essential reading pic.twitter.com/uFSW9azwKx


    Of course he will get support, Thurrock is probably No.3 on the list of potential UKIP wins in May.
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    GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,833
    Looks like a good time was had by all.

    Nobody came to blows I hope?
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    If this Thanet South poll is Comres I wonder if its the Mail trying to rattle some cages?

    Well the way the way the questions were worded it wasnt pro-tory!!

    Another point I forgot to mention: when asking who I voted for they asked by candidate name followed by party in the order of Labour, Liberal , UKIP , Conservative.

    That is not alphabetical by either candidates name or Party-is that good practice?
    Or perhaps it was private polling for the Pub Landlord (aka that Fat Barsteward)?
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    edited March 2015
    Ishmael_X said:

    Osborne looked very tired and strained today, must have been revising his speech over and over again. It was a lack-lustre performance. Miliband seem to grow in stature today, a bravura performance which was widely praised.He has been underestimated by all and sundry.

    I was shocked how good Ed was
    He stood up without soiling himself?
    Well that's how Labour are spinning it...
    With his knowledge of the shhhh secret Tory plan....sounded a bit David Ickle or Alex Jones.
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    Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411
    Where's the poll?
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @SunPolitics: YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead by one: CON 33%, LAB 34%, LD 8%, UKIP 14%, GRN 6%
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    Labour lead by one: CON 33%, LAB 34%, LD 8%, UKIP 14%, GRN 6%
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    currystar said:

    notme said:

    Scott_P said:

    Spectator front page: Britain Is Working http://t.co/YajJQGag57

    It is nothing less than a jobs miracle. I regularly peruse over the monthly labour market survey stats produced within my county. Over the last eighteen months to two years ive seen the most extraordinary drops in unemployment. And within circles of friends i know, people who have been out of work for long before the crash, are now back working. In many cases it just wasnt worth people putting in the genuine effort to look for work, because the payback was minimal compared to benefits. One person specifically went back to work because of the financial implications of the bedroom tax, her son left home for university. She is now a store manager working fifty to sixty hours a week and absolutely loves it.

    Another one was getting a bit of earache so took up volunteering in a youth project (i wrote her a reference), she now works thirty hours for the organisation. Another one, out of work for some time, quite capable, likeable person, but he kind of just floated into the role of looking after the young children while his wife worked part time. He got rang up and asked if he wanted to come to an interview, for a company he hadnt even applied for. Again, he now works all the hours god sends.

    Welfare reform has truly had a massive positive impact on lives of many people.
    Superb post
    What I don't understand is how people think labour will be better for the country given the quite amazing record of the coalition on employment creation. In Hampshire I would think we are nearing zero unemployment. Wherever you look there are signs advertising job vacancies . In the construction industry industry anyone who has a skill is working if they want too . If this coalition is voted out by the British people in May they can leave office with their heads held high for a job well done . Who in 2010 with the disgusting mess left by labour would have predicted that the economic situation in 2015 would be as good as it is for the UK. Mr 5 million unemployed Blanchflower?
    5 million is the number of low paid workers in poverty isn't it?
    Having been unemployed for over a year after the "crash" I can honestly say that I would rather be Low paid and employed than Unemployed.

    If I get a pay rise on the 1st April my gross earnings will exceed what I earnt in 2006 for the time since then. Context-my wife is a nurse and earns MORE than me so I am no fat cat!!

    Low pay isnt great but Unemployment is a whole lot worse.
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    PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    LOL
    Ishmael_X said:

    Tomorrow's Times editorial opines that it did not sound like the budget of a chancellor who expected it to be his last.

    The Times is a Tory rag though.
    Not sure on this page whether roserees or the Mirror headline better illustrates the sheer desperation of the left. I think the Mirror edges it, though, and I'll leave them a message on my voicemail to congratulate them.
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    Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411
    3% swing back by May CON 36 LAB 31!!!!!!!
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    GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,833
    Three Lab leads on the bounce with YouGov...

    Confirms #CrossbackMarch
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285

    Labour lead by one: CON 33%, LAB 34%, LD 8%, UKIP 14%, GRN 6%

    Who called it earlier? Somebody did....
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    foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    isam said:

    isam said:

    Guardian readers will choke on their fair trade organic GM free museli and almond milk, when they first catch a glimpse of the front page...once they get past that, they will be ok though.

    ooh Almond Milk! I have just started on that its lovely!
    You aren't on the coconut water as well are you?
    YES!!!!
    Good Lord! Next we will find out that you are a Guardian reader. I sense your inner LibDem trying to get out...
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    GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,833
    Ave_it said:

    3% swing back by May CON 36 LAB 31!!!!!!!

    That's a bit pessimistic for you AveIt?
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