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    DecrepitJohnLDecrepitJohnL Posts: 13,300
    Scott_P said:

    @Coral: After a rush of bets in the last 24 hours, we've suspended betting on the next Doctor Who. Looks like Rory Kinnear is set to land the role.

    Denis Thatcher in The Long Walk To Finchley.

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    dugarbandierdugarbandier Posts: 2,596


    7% say North Korea is friendly???!!! That's a lot of nutters.

    3% say North Korea is an ally!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What the F*************.........????

    TBF there are two different Koreas right next to each other, it's quite hard to keep track of which is which unless you pay a bit of attention to the news.
    I don't know about you ,Edmund, but I spend a fair amount of time in bars explaining the difference between Scotland and England to Japanese people :)

    I generally demur rather than attempt to explain any more complex UK/Great Britain matters...
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    dugarbandierdugarbandier Posts: 2,596

    HYUFD said:

    EdmundinTokyo - Yes, but a plurality at least are. Even if Cameron took back only half the UKIP vote that would take the Tories to 37%, exactly the same score Labour got in the last ComRes!

    Sure, but on reasonable assumptions if 7% are drifting back to Con then maybe 3% are drifting back to Lab.
    :yeah-but:

    How much of the Labour vote will return to the losers Lib-Dhimmis? You're using a single-regression equation to model a multiple-linear regression...!

    :derh:
    Obviously the UKIP vote isn't the only factor, but it's the one HYUFD was talking about.

    Since you ask, I wouldn't expect much slippage back of the former LibDem vote that are currently polling for Lab, especially in Con/Lab marginals. They generally seem to be quite narked off about the coalition.
    If i were a betting man, I'd guess that the Con->UKIP defectors are older and more certain to vote than the Lab->UKIP defectors. Also,the Con->UKIP ones have been there for longer (i suspect). therefore there is a good chance that more Lab->UKIP might disappear back into the non-voting cohort?
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    JamesKellyJamesKelly Posts: 1,348
    "I don't know about you ,Edmund, but I spend a fair amount of time in bars explaining the difference between Scotland and England to Japanese people"

    I've long since come to the conclusion that life's too short for trying to explain that to non-native English speakers, or even to some Americans. I do make an issue of it with English people, though - they really should know better, but vast numbers of them don't.

    My biggest irritation was listening to an English tour guide in Aberystwyth explaining to a group of Japanese (or Korean) tourists what Wales is. Apparently it's a "special region" of England.
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    TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 41,311
    edited June 2013

    HYUFD said:

    EdmundinTokyo - Yes, but a plurality at least are. Even if Cameron took back only half the UKIP vote that would take the Tories to 37%, exactly the same score Labour got in the last ComRes!

    Sure, but on reasonable assumptions if 7% are drifting back to Con then maybe 3% are drifting back to Lab.
    :yeah-but:

    How much of the Labour vote will return to the losers Lib-Dhimmis? You're using a single-regression equation to model a multiple-linear regression...!

    :derh:
    Obviously the UKIP vote isn't the only factor, but it's the one HYUFD was talking about.

    Since you ask, I wouldn't expect much slippage back of the former LibDem vote that are currently polling for Lab, especially in Con/Lab marginals. They generally seem to be quite narked off about the coalition.
    If i were a betting man, I'd guess that the Con->UKIP defectors are older and more certain to vote than the Lab->UKIP defectors. Also,the Con->UKIP ones have been there for longer (i suspect). therefore there is a good chance that more Lab->UKIP might disappear back into the non-voting cohort?
    It's precisely because the Cons=>UKIP (poll) defectors are older that they are more likely to return to the Cons - they have been Cons voters a whole lot longer than they have been telling pollsters that they intend to vote UKIP. And they are, um, conservatives. So when push comes to shove on the ballot paper, expect a majority (I would say 60% plus) to vote Cons (again).

    The stickier UKIP voters I would categorise as those similar to our Sam here. Younger, more open to new ideas and taking a strong (in this case NOTA - apols Sam if this is incorrect) opinion on the world and our place in it.

    Of course, Sam was a Labour supporter until recently....
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    JamesKellyJamesKelly Posts: 1,348
    "Of course, Sam was a Labour supporter until recently...."

    As was Plato. Allegedly.
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @tnewtondunn: So @edballsmp is now watering down his pensions cap. On #bbcsp it was on "pension spending". Lab now say "overall spending on pensioners".
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @nicholaswatt: Labour rows back from @edballsmp remarks to @afneil that pensions in welfare cap. Source: We are totally committed to the triple lock #bbcsp
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    NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,340
    edited June 2013
    An interesting aspect aspect of the Con/UKIP switcher discussion is the relative absence of an "OMG no!" factor about EdM - the Tories successfully got waverers thinking that about Gordon and previously Neil Kinnock, but failed with Blair, Callaghan, Wilson and arguably (though never really tested) John Smith. The Tory strategy seems to hinge on saying to UKIP voters "If you don't come back Cameron will be replaced by Miliband and that will be MUCH WORSE", to which said UKIP voters are currently saying "meh".
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    JamesKellyJamesKelly Posts: 1,348
    Self-selecting Mirror poll on how old the new Doctor Who should be -

    Under 25 - 17%
    25-40 - 59%
    40-60 - 14%
    Over - 10%

    Given that the norm always used to be 40-55, and that no under-25 has ever played the role, it's a bit peculiar that more people want someone under 25 than a 40-60 year old. The same cult of youth that has infected our politics seems to be spreading to our Doctor preferences.
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    MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    700 Ukipers at the South East spring conference at Frimley.
    http://www.ukip.org/index.php/newsroom/news/670-se-conference-programme

    Wonderful atmosphere and many interesting speeches. UKIP at it's best.
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    MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    I see most recent posters are fantasizing in their various ways of UKIP imploding. It won't! Stop dreaming, your worst nightmare is here to stay.
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    JamesKellyJamesKelly Posts: 1,348
    'MI5 spies told: stay out of referendum'

    A senior Nationalist has written to the head of the UK's Security Service and asked for an assurance that MI5 spies will not interfere in the independence referendum.

    Margo MacDonald MSP, who says she believes there are undercover agents operating in the SNP, told MI5 chief Andrew Parker that his staff should only be used to thwart criminal and terrorist acts, rather than engage in dirty tricks against those who support Scottish independence.


    http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/referendum-news/mi5-spies-told-stay-out-of-referendum.21143916

    Well said, Margo.
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    dugarbandierdugarbandier Posts: 2,596

    Self-selecting Mirror poll on how old the new Doctor Who should be -

    Under 25 - 17%
    25-40 - 59%
    40-60 - 14%
    Over - 10%

    Given that the norm always used to be 40-55, and that no under-25 has ever played the role, it's a bit peculiar that more people want someone under 25 than a 40-60 year old. The same cult of youth that has infected our politics seems to be spreading to our Doctor preferences.

    Dr. Who is a children's programme isn't it ? :)

    (Tom Baker is the only true doctor for my age group- so clearly the doctor ought to be , what,80-odd?
    )
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    PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    OT for anyone watching US TV new show releases - here's the countdown list for broadcast dates - http://eztv.it/countdown/

    For anyone tempted to watch the old Simon Baker [The Mentalist] series The Guardian - save those minutes and spend them doing something more pleasurable, like standing on a plug.

    Its just dreadful - and annoying. I can't recall the last time I saw such an unlikeable cast since Mad Men.
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    JamesKellyJamesKelly Posts: 1,348
    edited June 2013
    "Dr. Who is a children's programme isn't it ? :)"

    In my opinion it isn't. It's a family programme intended for both children and adults.

    This has the distinction of being the only subject on which I've ever agreed with Tom Harris on Twitter.

    PS. Welcome back, Plato! We've missed you!
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    PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    @PBModerator

    I saw your posting yesterday, am delighted and will comply with your request.

    I hope for everyone else's sake its enforced.
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    JamesKellyJamesKelly Posts: 1,348
    edited June 2013
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    dugarbandierdugarbandier Posts: 2,596

    "Dr. Who is a children's programme isn't it ? :)"

    In my opinion it isn't. It's a family programme intended for both children and adults.

    This has the distinction of being the only subject on which I've ever agreed with Tom Harris on Twitter.

    sorry for that. i actually haven't watched it in its recent incarnations. is it actually good, these days?


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    JamesKellyJamesKelly Posts: 1,348
    "sorry for that. i actually haven't watched it in its recent incarnations. is it actually good, these days?"

    It certainly has its moments. I prefer the original series, though.
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    dugarbandierdugarbandier Posts: 2,596
    TOPPING said:

    HYUFD said:

    EdmundinTokyo - Yes, but a plurality at least are. Even if Cameron took back only half the UKIP vote that would take the Tories to 37%, exactly the same score Labour got in the last ComRes!

    Sure, but on reasonable assumptions if 7% are drifting back to Con then maybe 3% are drifting back to Lab.
    :yeah-but:

    How much of the Labour vote will return to the losers Lib-Dhimmis? You're using a single-regression equation to model a multiple-linear regression...!

    :derh:
    Obviously the UKIP vote isn't the only factor, but it's the one HYUFD was talking about.

    Since you ask, I wouldn't expect much slippage back of the former LibDem vote that are currently polling for Lab, especially in Con/Lab marginals. They generally seem to be quite narked off about the coalition.
    If i were a betting man, I'd guess that the Con->UKIP defectors are older and more certain to vote than the Lab->UKIP defectors. Also,the Con->UKIP ones have been there for longer (i suspect). therefore there is a good chance that more Lab->UKIP might disappear back into the non-voting cohort?
    It's precisely because the Cons=>UKIP (poll) defectors are older that they are more likely to return to the Cons - they have been Cons voters a whole lot longer than they have been telling pollsters that they intend to vote UKIP. And they are, um, conservatives. So when push comes to shove on the ballot paper, expect a majority (I would say 60% plus) to vote Cons (again).

    The stickier UKIP voters I would categorise as those similar to our Sam here. Younger, more open to new ideas and taking a strong (in this case NOTA - apols Sam if this is incorrect) opinion on the world and our place in it.

    Of course, Sam was a Labour supporter until recently....
    the younger, more open to new ideas voters would though presumably be also less likely to vote based on their age...
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    JamesKellyJamesKelly Posts: 1,348
    Hard to argue with this -

    traquir ‏@traquir
    Alistair Darling prefers "utterly mad" Tory policies to Scots governing Scots
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    isamisam Posts: 40,930

    "I saw your posting yesterday, am delighted and will comply with your request."

    So no more cat videos? You may be delighted, Plato, but I can assure you the rest of us are in mourning.

    Why are you bothering with this relentlessly boring baiting of Plato?

    Surely you realise you will get banned soon? Or is that what you want so you can moan about how unfair it all is?

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    fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,279
    "Anyone know when that rumored military coup in France, (as mentioned on here yesterday),is due by the way? I need cheering up. "

    @davethecon I doubt we would see a military coup in France, but I did ask around on twitter a few weeks ago if there was betting market up on Hollande not lasting out his Presidency? He really doesn't look or feel like a man in control of his country or his political destiny these days.
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    JamesKellyJamesKelly Posts: 1,348
    "Why are you bothering with this relentlessly boring baiting of Plato?"

    I think we established yesterday that you and I have very different senses of humour, so there's probably not much point in you trying to understand.

    As for whether I get banned for such a cretinous reason, that's a matter for others, but rest assured I would complain about it, yes. Loudly and at length. I comply with all reasonable requests, such as refraining from talking about subjects that would cause legal problems. That's as far as it goes, and as far as it should be expected to go.
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    dugarbandierdugarbandier Posts: 2,596
    isam said:

    "I saw your posting yesterday, am delighted and will comply with your request."

    So no more cat videos? You may be delighted, Plato, but I can assure you the rest of us are in mourning.

    Why are you bothering with this relentlessly boring baiting of Plato?

    Surely you realise you will get banned soon? Or is that what you want so you can moan about how unfair it all is?

    something to do with socratic methods...

    why so many greeks and not many german philosophers on pb...
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    another_richardanother_richard Posts: 25,101
    TOPPING said:

    HYUFD said:

    EdmundinTokyo - Yes, but a plurality at least are. Even if Cameron took back only half the UKIP vote that would take the Tories to 37%, exactly the same score Labour got in the last ComRes!

    Sure, but on reasonable assumptions if 7% are drifting back to Con then maybe 3% are drifting back to Lab.
    :yeah-but:

    How much of the Labour vote will return to the losers Lib-Dhimmis? You're using a single-regression equation to model a multiple-linear regression...!

    :derh:
    Obviously the UKIP vote isn't the only factor, but it's the one HYUFD was talking about.

    Since you ask, I wouldn't expect much slippage back of the former LibDem vote that are currently polling for Lab, especially in Con/Lab marginals. They generally seem to be quite narked off about the coalition.
    If i were a betting man, I'd guess that the Con->UKIP defectors are older and more certain to vote than the Lab->UKIP defectors. Also,the Con->UKIP ones have been there for longer (i suspect). therefore there is a good chance that more Lab->UKIP might disappear back into the non-voting cohort?
    It's precisely because the Cons=>UKIP (poll) defectors are older that they are more likely to return to the Cons - they have been Cons voters a whole lot longer than they have been telling pollsters that they intend to vote UKIP. And they are, um, conservatives. So when push comes to shove on the ballot paper, expect a majority (I would say 60% plus) to vote Cons (again).

    The stickier UKIP voters I would categorise as those similar to our Sam here. Younger, more open to new ideas and taking a strong (in this case NOTA - apols Sam if this is incorrect) opinion on the world and our place in it.

    Of course, Sam was a Labour supporter until recently....
    You might be right in thinking that they are 'conservatives' but you might be very wrong that they're going to vite Conservative.

    These are people who have for decades voted Conservative in the belief that the Conservative party's role was to support 'people like me'.

    They have now discovered that the Conservative leadership despise 'people like me' and they feel somewhat betrayed.

    The idea that they will meekly return to voting Conservative in 2015 is extremely complacent.

    The complacency of the Conservative leadership is another of its faults along with its arrogance and insecurity.
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    JamesKellyJamesKelly Posts: 1,348
    As stated yesterday, all posts that are cynically censored will henceforth be appearing elsewhere. I see this process will now have to begin.
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    TOPPING said:

    HYUFD said:

    EdmundinTokyo - Yes, but a plurality at least are. Even if Cameron took back only half the UKIP vote that would take the Tories to 37%, exactly the same score Labour got in the last ComRes!

    Sure, but on reasonable assumptions if 7% are drifting back to Con then maybe 3% are drifting back to Lab.
    :yeah-but:

    How much of the Labour vote will return to the losers Lib-Dhimmis? You're using a single-regression equation to model a multiple-linear regression...!

    :derh:
    Obviously the UKIP vote isn't the only factor, but it's the one HYUFD was talking about.

    Since you ask, I wouldn't expect much slippage back of the former LibDem vote that are currently polling for Lab, especially in Con/Lab marginals. They generally seem to be quite narked off about the coalition.
    If i were a betting man, I'd guess that the Con->UKIP defectors are older and more certain to vote than the Lab->UKIP defectors. Also,the Con->UKIP ones have been there for longer (i suspect). therefore there is a good chance that more Lab->UKIP might disappear back into the non-voting cohort?
    It's precisely because the Cons=>UKIP (poll) defectors are older that they are more likely to return to the Cons - they have been Cons voters a whole lot longer than they have been telling pollsters that they intend to vote UKIP. And they are, um, conservatives. So when push comes to shove on the ballot paper, expect a majority (I would say 60% plus) to vote Cons (again).

    The stickier UKIP voters I would categorise as those similar to our Sam here. Younger, more open to new ideas and taking a strong (in this case NOTA - apols Sam if this is incorrect) opinion on the world and our place in it.

    Of course, Sam was a Labour supporter until recently....
    Is that right? Or is it the case these former Conservative voters feel like the long suffering wife of a very difficult and increasingly abusive husband who she suspected of having an affair with someone with the initals E.U. and now has found out not only that is true but that her philandering husband is now having a rather public fling with another individual with initials L.D and is behaving in a rather absurdly juvenile manner as part of some mid-life crisis?



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    CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758



    Geography classes in the US leave something to be desired. I'm scared sh*tless that one of the 1% who think Britain is an enemy gets voted in as President!

    You mean again...

    Thank goodness for term limits ;-)
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    What amazes me is while Tories obsess about their lost voters and UKIP. Ed Balls is dreaming up what in Labour terms might be described as a 'State Pension Tax'.

    Ed Balls: Labour will include pensions in its welfare cap

    http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2013/06/ed-balls-well-include-pensions-in-our-welfare-cap/

    No wonder these Tories are losing. They are so bloody crap at politics
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    DecrepitJohnLDecrepitJohnL Posts: 13,300

    'MI5 spies told: stay out of referendum'

    Margo MacDonald MSP, who says she believes there are undercover agents operating in the SNP, told MI5 chief Andrew Parker that his staff should only be used to thwart criminal and terrorist acts, rather than engage in dirty tricks against those who support Scottish independence.

    http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/referendum-news/mi5-spies-told-stay-out-of-referendum.21143916

    Well said, Margo.

    In mentioning criminal acts, she seems to approve of Tony Blair's recasting of MI5 as a secret police force. Civil liberties will seem as quaint in an independent Scotland as in the United Kingdom.
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    MillsyMillsy Posts: 900

    An interesting aspect aspect of the Con/UKIP switcher discussion is the relative absence of an "OMG no!" factor about EdM - the Tories successfully got waverers thinking that about Gordon and previously Neil Kinnock, but failed with Blair, Callaghan, Wilson and arguably (though never really tested) John Smith. The Tory strategy seems to hinge on saying to UKIP voters "If you don't come back Cameron will be replaced by Miliband and that will be MUCH WORSE", to which said UKIP voters are currently saying "meh".

    I'm sure that will be a big part of the election campaign. Ukip voters generally (and they're not a homogenous group) aren't fond of Cameron, the Conservatives and the government (obviously) but all the polling shows they dislike Labour and Miliband even more.
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    isamisam Posts: 40,930

    "Why are you bothering with this relentlessly boring baiting of Plato?"

    I think we established yesterday that you and I have very different senses of humour, so there's probably not much point in you trying to understand.

    As for whether I get banned for such a cretinous reason, that's a matter for others, but rest assured I would complain about it, yes. Loudly and at length. I comply with all reasonable requests, such as refraining from talking about subjects that would cause legal problems. That's as far as it goes, and as far as it should be expected to go.

    Oh yes I remember now, those side splitting tweets you copied and pasted!

    You'd complain loudly and at length? Yes I think we can agree on that one!




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    CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758

    Hard to argue with this -

    traquir ‏@traquir
    Alistair Darling prefers "utterly mad" Tory policies to Scots governing Scots

    Which bit of, say, 1997-2010 didn't have Scots or Scottish-connected people governing Scotland?
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453

    Hard to argue with this -

    traquir ‏@traquir
    Alistair Darling prefers "utterly mad" Tory policies to Scots governing Scots

    It's dead easy

    Alistair Darling prefers UK Government policies to "utterly mad" SNP fantasy
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    CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    edited June 2013

    As stated yesterday, all posts that are cynically censored will henceforth be appearing elsewhere. I see this process will now have to begin.

    Do us a favour and post the link to your website can you?

    That way when we don't read it it's a deliberate choice rather than just laziness

    Cheers!
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453


    No wonder these Tories are losing. They are so bloody crap at politics

    Are they as bad as Ed Balls? Labour have spent all day issuing "clarifications" that when he said cap spending on pensions he did not mean "cap", "spending" or "pensions"

    Meanwhile

    @benedictbrogan: If we can now talk about spending on the elderly, George Osborne will have another reason to thank Ed Balls http://tgr.ph/1029pu8
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,477
    New thread, a poll poll on electoral voting systems The 2014 Euros
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    MonikerDiCanioMonikerDiCanio Posts: 5,792
    edited June 2013
    "Margo MacDonald MSP, who says she believes there are undercover agents operating in the SNP."

    I have to agree with Margo on this occassion. The entire SNP front bench has been acting in a suspicious manner for over a year. She should name names.
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    TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 41,311

    TOPPING said:

    HYUFD said:

    EdmundinTokyo - Yes, but a plurality at least are. Even if Cameron took back only half the UKIP vote that would take the Tories to 37%, exactly the same score Labour got in the last ComRes!

    Sure, but on reasonable assumptions if 7% are drifting back to Con then maybe 3% are drifting back to Lab.
    :yeah-but:

    How much of the Labour vote will return to the losers Lib-Dhimmis? You're using a single-regression equation to model a multiple-linear regression...!

    :derh:
    Obviously the UKIP vote isn't the only factor, but it's the one HYUFD was talking about.

    Since you ask, I wouldn't expect much slippage back of the former LibDem vote that are currently polling for Lab, especially in Con/Lab marginals. They generally seem to be quite narked off about the coalition.
    If i were a betting man, I'd guess that the Con->UKIP defectors are older and more certain to vote than the Lab->UKIP defectors. Also,the Con->UKIP ones have been there for longer (i suspect). therefore there is a good chance that more Lab->UKIP might disappear back into the non-voting cohort?
    It's precisely because the Cons=>UKIP (poll) defectors are older that they are more likely to return to the Cons - they have been Cons voters a whole lot longer than they have been telling pollsters that they intend to vote UKIP. And they are, um, conservatives. So when push comes to shove on the ballot paper, expect a majority (I would say 60% plus) to vote Cons (again).

    The stickier UKIP voters I would categorise as those similar to our Sam here. Younger, more open to new ideas and taking a strong (in this case NOTA - apols Sam if this is incorrect) opinion on the world and our place in it.

    Of course, Sam was a Labour supporter until recently....
    Is that right? Or is it the case these former Conservative voters feel like the long suffering wife of a very difficult and increasingly abusive husband who she suspected of having an affair with someone with the initals E.U. and now has found out not only that is true but that her philandering husband is now having a rather public fling with another individual with initials L.D and is behaving in a rather absurdly juvenile manner as part of some mid-life crisis?



    I think such voters are seriously irritated, some outraged at some of the EU legislation that touches them.

    That said, we are talking about people not only who have grown up conservative (both "C"s) but have lived with the EU for almost 40 years.

    To wrench those away from in many instances what has been a social if not societal support and mutual interest group for the "young kid on the block" is asking a lot. It's not complacent but don't ask such people to shift around as the polls suggest they might. I agree that the Cons themselves are complacent squared but really? I think they are right to take a core element of their vote for granted. Every party does it.

    and @dugarbandier - younger less likely to vote? Perhaps - but IMO if you are going to think strongly enough about politics to have such opinions then that might make up for your natural youthful disinclination to vote in the first place.
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    malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 41,983
    Scott_P said:

    Hard to argue with this -

    traquir ‏@traquir
    Alistair Darling prefers "utterly mad" Tory policies to Scots governing Scots

    It's dead easy

    Alistair Darling prefers UK Government policies to "utterly mad" SNP fantasy
    Darling would do anything for money , he has no principles , flip , flip , flip
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    malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 41,983
    Charles said:

    As stated yesterday, all posts that are cynically censored will henceforth be appearing elsewhere. I see this process will now have to begin.

    Do us a favour and post the link to your website can you?

    That way when we don't read it it's a deliberate choice rather than just laziness

    Cheers!
    Too much champers today old boy,

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    foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Millsy said:

    An interesting aspect aspect of the Con/UKIP switcher discussion is the relative absence of an "OMG no!" factor about EdM - the Tories successfully got waverers thinking that about Gordon and previously Neil Kinnock, but failed with Blair, Callaghan, Wilson and arguably (though never really tested) John Smith. The Tory strategy seems to hinge on saying to UKIP voters "If you don't come back Cameron will be replaced by Miliband and that will be MUCH WORSE", to which said UKIP voters are currently saying "meh".

    I'm sure that will be a big part of the election campaign. Ukip voters generally (and they're not a homogenous group) aren't fond of Cameron, the Conservatives and the government (obviously) but all the polling shows they dislike Labour and Miliband even more.
    Expectations of Ed Miliband are so low for the campaign, and premiership that he only needs to become mediocre to exceed them. His crapness is already priced into the voteshares.

    It is the lack of talent elsewhere on the shadow front bench that really appals. If Ed Balls is the best they have got for possible shadow chancellor.

    Ed M could impress me with his leadership if he got shot of Balls. If he keeps him it would be a sign of weakness that would be ominous. He needs to show that he can take "tough decisions".
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    FluffyThoughtsFluffyThoughts Posts: 2,420
    edited June 2013
    @JamesKelly

    You told me that you don't have issues. Prove it.

    I understand that you are trying to create a meme on your blog but - sadly - most people don't hate you. It is just that you are:
    • tedious,
    • dull,
    • confused,
    • lacking social manners, and (quite frankly) are posting yourself as
    • a tedious, dull, confused troll lacking social manners.
    You may wish to ramp your site as a result of your [mis-]behaviour: no doubt your followers probably are similiarly qualified in interweb skills. What you seek to achieve is failing: Please turn back into a normal* poster before you are "low-vized".

    :back-from-pub-so-an-hour-lost:

    * typo: May have confused those outwith home-skills (a.k.a washing, cooking, using-the-lavatory)....
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    JamesKellyJamesKelly Posts: 1,348
    Good evening, Fluffy. As incomprehensible as ever, which I think means I can safely say my sensibilities are intact.
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,011
    fitalass - There were also rumours of a military coup against Wilson
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