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  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,937

    Rolf Harris has been stripped of his CBE according to BBC ticker.

    Oh noes. Who will command the British Empire now?
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,937

    TGOHF said:

    There's little chance of me voting Labour at the next election. That may surprise many on here given that I generally attack the coalition from the left. Given I live in a safe Labour seat that hardly matters. However if Ed Miliband were to get up in PMQs and bring up the phone hacking issue again with special reference to The Mirror and their indiscretions I'd have new found respect for him and might, just might, consider putting the X in their box.

    Does Miliband have any ex-Mirror hacks on his staff ?

    His spin doctor Bob Roberts.

    He has all the scandal hit papers covered with his advisors...Mirror, News International, Telegraph.
    Maybe he believes everyone deserves a second chance?
  • Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039

    Artist said:

    Newstatesman poll has 75% of Labour candidates against renewal of Trident. Room here, for a SNP deal?

    http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2015/03/exclusive-75-labour-ppcs-oppose-trident-renewal

    There are going to be a lot of lefties in the House of Commons after May.
    Not if people realise what is going on and vote Tory.

    This leftward lurch of the SNP, driven that way by the exodus of lefty labourites post referendum, is surely significant.
    Was the only purpose behind the Scottish Independence Movement the far left anti nuclear campaign?
    A lot of people must have had different motives than that but since the referendum was still lost, well do they happily go along with the new improved washes lefter than left SNP?
    Scotland, as Northern Ireland has been, is going to be considering an existential question over the next 20 years or so (though hopefully minus the Semtex).

    The lesson from Northern Ireland is that support moves away from the centrist parties towards those who take the harder line.

    Therefore - brave prediction: by 2025 or 2030, the general election in Scotland [if it's still in the UK] will be largely fought between the SNP and the Tories. During this process the Tories will actually take some of the seats the SNP currently have (where they gained them as "Tartan Tories" e.g. Perth, Banff & Buchan etc.).
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    Did you see the woodpecker pix at the end of the last thread. Amazing.

    Rolf Harris has been stripped of his CBE according to BBC ticker.

    Oh noes. Who will command the British Empire now?
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633

    TGOHF said:

    There's little chance of me voting Labour at the next election. That may surprise many on here given that I generally attack the coalition from the left. Given I live in a safe Labour seat that hardly matters. However if Ed Miliband were to get up in PMQs and bring up the phone hacking issue again with special reference to The Mirror and their indiscretions I'd have new found respect for him and might, just might, consider putting the X in their box.

    Does Miliband have any ex-Mirror hacks on his staff ?

    His spin doctor Bob Roberts.

    He has all the scandal hit papers covered with his advisors...Mirror, News International, Telegraph.

    Meet Team Miliband – the 'poisonous and dysfunctional' political pack behind Ed's campaign for No.10 http://specc.ie/1iPjNMF
    What about Lord Ashcroft's mate Mr Baldwin ?
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    edited March 2015
    isam said:

    Charles said:

    isam said:

    Charles said:

    Dr. Spyn, nothing wrong with feeling bloody-minded.

    Let us know what reply you get.

    I refer you to Janesh's article: "feeling vaguely cussed (in other words, British)"
    Janan Ganesh, Esq. (@JGaneshEsq)
    03/03/2015 07:45
    Thesaurus and chai latte at the ready. Time to put quill to parchment. I feel a column coming on.
    I admit that his modus operandi may be, shall we say, unusual

    But it doesn't make him wrong.

    Anyway, I rather like chai latte ;)
    Janan Ganesh, Esq. (@JGaneshEsq)
    10/02/2015 13:44
    Always use the pretentious alternative. For example, instead of saying “I have a hangover”, try “J’ai la gueule de bois”. #GaneshStyleTips
    Do you think that, just possibly, "#GaneshStyleTips" is tongue in cheek?

    p.s. are you really wasting your time scanning through a random journalist's twitter feed for bon mots?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,514
    edited March 2015
    TGOHF said:

    TGOHF said:

    There's little chance of me voting Labour at the next election. That may surprise many on here given that I generally attack the coalition from the left. Given I live in a safe Labour seat that hardly matters. However if Ed Miliband were to get up in PMQs and bring up the phone hacking issue again with special reference to The Mirror and their indiscretions I'd have new found respect for him and might, just might, consider putting the X in their box.

    Does Miliband have any ex-Mirror hacks on his staff ?

    His spin doctor Bob Roberts.

    He has all the scandal hit papers covered with his advisors...Mirror, News International, Telegraph.

    Meet Team Miliband – the 'poisonous and dysfunctional' political pack behind Ed's campaign for No.10 http://specc.ie/1iPjNMF
    What about Lord Ashcroft's mate Mr Baldwin ?
    I have to say I am very surprised it hasn't been brought up to be honest. Ashcroft has all that material in his book. I bet if Bad Al was a Tory, the stories would have been all over the media by now.
  • taffystaffys Posts: 9,753
    This is why we need a space port

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2875158/The-plane-fly-four-hours-space-just-15-minutes.html

    Can we finally hold on to a truly revolutionary piece of engineering we design?
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    edited March 2015
    Charles said:

    isam said:

    Charles said:

    isam said:

    Charles said:

    Dr. Spyn, nothing wrong with feeling bloody-minded.

    Let us know what reply you get.

    I refer you to Janesh's article: "feeling vaguely cussed (in other words, British)"
    Janan Ganesh, Esq. (@JGaneshEsq)
    03/03/2015 07:45
    Thesaurus and chai latte at the ready. Time to put quill to parchment. I feel a column coming on.
    I admit that his modus operandi may be, shall we say, unusual

    But it doesn't make him wrong.

    Anyway, I rather like chai latte ;)
    Janan Ganesh, Esq. (@JGaneshEsq)
    10/02/2015 13:44
    Always use the pretentious alternative. For example, instead of saying “I have a hangover”, try “J’ai la gueule de bois”. #GaneshStyleTips
    Do you think that, just possibly, "#GaneshStyleTips" is tongue in cheek?

    p.s. are you really wasting your time scanning through a random journalist's twitter feed for bon mots?
    I am quite sure it is a piss take as I am quoting a parody account
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,411

    Artist said:

    Newstatesman poll has 75% of Labour candidates against renewal of Trident. Room here, for a SNP deal?

    http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2015/03/exclusive-75-labour-ppcs-oppose-trident-renewal

    There are going to be a lot of lefties in the House of Commons after May.
    Not if people realise what is going on and vote Tory.

    This leftward lurch of the SNP, driven that way by the exodus of lefty labourites post referendum, is surely significant.
    Was the only purpose behind the Scottish Independence Movement the far left anti nuclear campaign?
    A lot of people must have had different motives than that but since the referendum was still lost, well do they happily go along with the new improved washes lefter than left SNP?
    Scotland, as Northern Ireland has been, is going to be considering an existential question over the next 20 years or so (though hopefully minus the Semtex).

    The lesson from Northern Ireland is that support moves away from the centrist parties towards those who take the harder line.

    Therefore - brave prediction: by 2025 or 2030, the general election in Scotland [if it's still in the UK] will be largely fought between the SNP and the Tories. During this process the Tories will actually take some of the seats the SNP currently have (where they gained them as "Tartan Tories" e.g. Perth, Banff & Buchan etc.).
    The Tory vote has appeared remarkably impervious to th Nats assault... it does appear to be dieing off slightly in the SNP-Labour battlegrounds as it is presumably squeezed by both sides. The corollary is that its probably holding up very nicely in the borders and Scottish Tory gains can't be ruled out. Longer term I agree the picture is rosy for them.
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 39,672

    There's little chance of me voting Labour at the next election. That may surprise many on here given that I generally attack the coalition from the left. Given I live in a safe Labour seat that hardly matters. However if Ed Miliband were to get up in PMQs and bring up the phone hacking issue again with special reference to The Mirror and their indiscretions I'd have new found respect for him and might, just might, consider putting the X in their box.

    I am just about resigned to voting Labour. Not because I have even the vaguest enthusiasm for them - I don't; they are unprepared, complacent and have a truly abysmal leader - but because I live in what is possibly a Tory marginal (though probably is not) and I do not want a Tory majority government in the next Parliament as I fundamentally do not share the Tory belief in an ever-smaller state. And in the end that is the most important issue for me. I just wish there was a positive vote I could cast. But there isn't.
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 39,672
    The one area where the PM is wrong here is that boys are often victims of sexual abuse too:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31691061
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,937
    Plato said:

    Did you see the woodpecker pix at the end of the last thread. Amazing.

    Rolf Harris has been stripped of his CBE according to BBC ticker.

    Oh noes. Who will command the British Empire now?
    Plato, yes a stunning image. Green woodpeckers are the ones that have the call that sounds like they are laughing. This chap could have gone up to a hundred feet and done a barrel roll - that would have given him the last laugh for sure!
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    edited March 2015

    Plato said:

    Did you see the woodpecker pix at the end of the last thread. Amazing.

    Rolf Harris has been stripped of his CBE according to BBC ticker.

    Oh noes. Who will command the British Empire now?
    Plato, yes a stunning image. Green woodpeckers are the ones that have the call that sounds like they are laughing. This chap could have gone up to a hundred feet and done a barrel roll - that would have given him the last laugh for sure!
    That photo was taken 200 yards from where I grew up, on the old Hornchurch Airfield where we played as kids
  • AnorakAnorak Posts: 6,621
    edited March 2015

    Six spaceport locations remain in play for the UK:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-31711083

    We should have it in England. Scotland could well go its own way in the next decade or two.


    Most are in Scotland, who (as you say) could go their own way and take the spaceport with them.

    Perhaps we should choose the Welsh one. Hmmm. What if they decide to go independent?

    Perhaps its safest to pick the English one. Cornwall. Is Cornwall safe?

    'Spaceport'? Is this serious?
    'low cost rocket planes' ?? Yes we have heard all that before. Tell that to Richard Branson.
    Low cost, with all the options in the far extremes of the country?

    Since the 'spaceport' will be no more than a glorified converted RAF runway I do not think there is much for Scotland to take away should it choose.
    I've been to Stornaway, the Outer Hebrides have some lovely windswept beaches. Is anyone at all seriously suggesting we launch rockets or 'rocket planes' from there?

    You will be telling me next there is an election looming.
    If it is Campbeltown, it will be RAF Macrihanish.

    An interesting place. The runway is absolutely vast. Was rumoured to be a stop-off point for the top-secret Aurora spy plane. Also B-2 stealth bombers went through there after 9/11. And plenty of special forces training around and abouts.

    The tin-foil hat brigade linked the Mull of Kintyre Chinook disaster to activities at Macrihanish. Who knows. If it is being put forward as a space port, that rather suggests its military status may have been downgraded.
    Given there's an absolutely splendid and much-used links at the end of the runway, the tin-foil hat brigade are being whackier then usual. The UK is not like the Mid-West, where you can put a runway in the centre of a thousand square miles of desert.
  • Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    Wide open betting on Ed's 1st question tomorrow:

    Children's issues 4/1
    MP's Second Jobs 6/1
    Terrorism 6/1
    Housing 8/1
    Immigration 8/1
    NHS 8/1
    Phone Hacking 10/1
    Russia 10/1
    Cost of living/Living wage 12/1
    Unemployment 12/1
    Corporate Tax Avoidance 14/1
    Local Government 14/1
    Scottish Oil 18/1
    Greece 20/1
    Condition of House of Parliament Buildings 25/1
    Corporal punishment 33/1

    It's surely too late in the day to be doing all the grave nod-along-with-me stuff, so back to tax avoidance or 2nd jobs?
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,195
    I like the irony of the groups who rank Immigration and the NHS as the two most important issues. No immigration, no NHS!
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,937
    Anorak said:

    Six spaceport locations remain in play for the UK:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-31711083

    We should have it in England. Scotland could well go its own way in the next decade or two.


    Most are in Scotland, who (as you say) could go their own way and take the spaceport with them.

    Perhaps we should choose the Welsh one. Hmmm. What if they decide to go independent?

    Perhaps its safest to pick the English one. Cornwall. Is Cornwall safe?

    'Spaceport'? Is this serious?
    'low cost rocket planes' ?? Yes we have heard all that before. Tell that to Richard Branson.
    Low cost, with all the options in the far extremes of the country?

    Since the 'spaceport' will be no more than a glorified converted RAF runway I do not think there is much for Scotland to take away should it choose.
    I've been to Stornaway, the Outer Hebrides have some lovely windswept beaches. Is anyone at all seriously suggesting we launch rockets or 'rocket planes' from there?

    You will be telling me next there is an election looming.
    If it is Campbeltown, it will be RAF Macrihanish.

    An interesting place. The runway is absolutely vast. Was rumoured to be a stop-off point for the top-secret Aurora spy plane. Also B-2 stealth bombers went through there after 9/11. And plenty of special forces training around and abouts.

    The tin-foil hat brigade linked the Mull of Kintyre Chinook disaster to activities at Macrihanish. Who knows. If it is being put forward as a space port, that rather suggests its military status may have been downgraded.
    Given there's an absolutely splendid and much-used links at the end of the runway, the tin-foil hat brigade are being whackier then usual. The UK is not like the Mid-West, where you can put a runway in the centre of a thousand square miles of desert.
    There are said to be some golfers with interesting tales to tell after they went looking for their ball in the rough there...!
  • AnorakAnorak Posts: 6,621

    There's little chance of me voting Labour at the next election. That may surprise many on here given that I generally attack the coalition from the left. Given I live in a safe Labour seat that hardly matters. However if Ed Miliband were to get up in PMQs and bring up the phone hacking issue again with special reference to The Mirror and their indiscretions I'd have new found respect for him and might, just might, consider putting the X in their box.

    I am just about resigned to voting Labour. Not because I have even the vaguest enthusiasm for them - I don't; they are unprepared, complacent and have a truly abysmal leader - but because I live in what is possibly a Tory marginal (though probably is not) and I do not want a Tory majority government in the next Parliament as I fundamentally do not share the Tory belief in an ever-smaller state. And in the end that is the most important issue for me. I just wish there was a positive vote I could cast. But there isn't.
    You've given a lot of thought to your vote, which is more than 95% of the electorate do. Good for you, wherever the cross ends up.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,963
    Mr. Price, not betting, but I'd go for the NHS, probably, with Tax Avoidance as second choice.

    Mr. Observer, spot on about boys. Cameron needs a slap. Hundreds of victims in Rotherham were boys. Not unlike domestic abuse, the pretence, despite all evidence to the contrary, that boys or husbands cannot be victims is damaging and makes it harder for justice to be had.
  • FlightpathFlightpath Posts: 4,012

    Six spaceport locations remain in play for the UK:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-31711083

    We should have it in England. Scotland could well go its own way in the next decade or two.


    Most are in Scotland, who (as you say) could go their own way and take the spaceport with them.

    Perhaps we should choose the Welsh one. Hmmm. What if they decide to go independent?

    Perhaps its safest to pick the English one. Cornwall. Is Cornwall safe?

    'Spaceport'? Is this serious?
    'low cost rocket planes' ?? Yes we have heard all that before. Tell that to Richard Branson.
    Low cost, with all the options in the far extremes of the country?

    Since the 'spaceport' will be no more than a glorified converted RAF runway I do not think there is much for Scotland to take away should it choose.
    I've been to Stornaway, the Outer Hebrides have some lovely windswept beaches. Is anyone at all seriously suggesting we launch rockets or 'rocket planes' from there?

    You will be telling me next there is an election looming.
    If it is Campbeltown, it will be RAF Macrihanish.

    An interesting place. The runway is absolutely vast. Was rumoured to be a stop-off point for the top-secret Aurora spy plane. Also B-2 stealth bombers went through there after 9/11. And plenty of special forces training around and abouts.

    The tin-foil hat brigade linked the Mull of Kintyre Chinook disaster to activities at Macrihanish. Who knows. If it is being put forward as a space port, that rather suggests its military status may have been downgraded.
    It may be a logical place for a military airport, or an experimental rocket base that might blast liquid oxygen everywhere at any moment. But do any of these places gel as a commercial space venture?
    The Chinook crashed in bad weather. I mean is that a good omen?
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,928

    There's little chance of me voting Labour at the next election. That may surprise many on here given that I generally attack the coalition from the left. Given I live in a safe Labour seat that hardly matters. However if Ed Miliband were to get up in PMQs and bring up the phone hacking issue again with special reference to The Mirror and their indiscretions I'd have new found respect for him and might, just might, consider putting the X in their box.

    I am just about resigned to voting Labour. Not because I have even the vaguest enthusiasm for them - I don't; they are unprepared, complacent and have a truly abysmal leader - but because I live in what is possibly a Tory marginal (though probably is not) and I do not want a Tory majority government in the next Parliament as I fundamentally do not share the Tory belief in an ever-smaller state. And in the end that is the most important issue for me. I just wish there was a positive vote I could cast. But there isn't.
    5 years ago I was optimistic about the possibility of change in this country. I'm now pretty much resigned to disappointment. Post the crash we should have had a re-evaluation of how we make our economy and society work. Although I don't live in a marginal I have had a few pieces of literature through the letterbox of late from two different parties. Both related to a dispute about whether my local road is going to be turned into a bus only lane. 2 months from a general election and this is all they can come up with? No sense of national mission or where we are going. It's no wonder the SNP are doing so well in Scotland. they alarm me a little but they have a clear sense of who they are and what they want. The Olympics felt like it might be a moment like that but it's just a distant memory now.
  • AnorakAnorak Posts: 6,621

    Plato said:

    Did you see the woodpecker pix at the end of the last thread. Amazing.

    Rolf Harris has been stripped of his CBE according to BBC ticker.

    Oh noes. Who will command the British Empire now?
    Plato, yes a stunning image. Green woodpeckers are the ones that have the call that sounds like they are laughing. This chap could have gone up to a hundred feet and done a barrel roll - that would have given him the last laugh for sure!
    To be a nerd: a barrel roll would just keep the weasel in place. You can barrel roll a plane (including Concorde) without spilling your coffee if done right. A snap roll or an outside loop would be the order of the day.
  • Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039

    Mr. Price, not betting, but I'd go for the NHS, probably, with Tax Avoidance as second choice.

    Mr. Observer, spot on about boys. Cameron needs a slap. Hundreds of victims in Rotherham were boys. Not unlike domestic abuse, the pretence, despite all evidence to the contrary, that boys or husbands cannot be victims is damaging and makes it harder for justice to be had.

    Yes NHS is always a good standby but http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/health-31699607 might militate against it. Though it is 8/1.
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    I'm giving witness testimony in court on a domestic abuse case in the next couple of weeks - the victim is male and suffers from a severe mental illness. I've reported his ex girlfriend to the police at least a dozen times for intimidation and anti-social behaviour.

    I'm not this man's friend - we've only spoken twice, but what he's endured is appalling - and that's just her behaviour when I've been at home and heard it.

    Mr. Price, not betting, but I'd go for the NHS, probably, with Tax Avoidance as second choice.

    Mr. Observer, spot on about boys. Cameron needs a slap. Hundreds of victims in Rotherham were boys. Not unlike domestic abuse, the pretence, despite all evidence to the contrary, that boys or husbands cannot be victims is damaging and makes it harder for justice to be had.

  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,195

    Anorak said:

    Six spaceport locations remain in play for the UK:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-31711083

    We should have it in England. Scotland could well go its own way in the next decade or two.


    Most are in Scotland, who (as you say) could go their own way and take the spaceport with them.

    Perhaps we should choose the Welsh one. Hmmm. What if they decide to go independent?

    Perhaps its safest to pick the English one. Cornwall. Is Cornwall safe?

    'Spaceport'? Is this serious?
    'low cost rocket planes' ?? Yes we have heard all that before. Tell that to Richard Branson.
    Low cost, with all the options in the far extremes of the country?

    Since the 'spaceport' will be no more than a glorified converted RAF runway I do not think there is much for Scotland to take away should it choose.
    I've been to Stornaway, the Outer Hebrides have some lovely windswept beaches. Is anyone at all seriously suggesting we launch rockets or 'rocket planes' from there?

    You will be telling me next there is an election looming.
    If it is Campbeltown, it will be RAF Macrihanish.

    An interesting place. The runway is absolutely vast. Was rumoured to be a stop-off point for the top-secret Aurora spy plane. Also B-2 stealth bombers went through there after 9/11. And plenty of special forces training around and abouts.

    The tin-foil hat brigade linked the Mull of Kintyre Chinook disaster to activities at Macrihanish. Who knows. If it is being put forward as a space port, that rather suggests its military status may have been downgraded.
    Given there's an absolutely splendid and much-used links at the end of the runway, the tin-foil hat brigade are being whackier then usual. The UK is not like the Mid-West, where you can put a runway in the centre of a thousand square miles of desert.
    There are said to be some golfers with interesting tales to tell after they went looking for their ball in the rough there...!
    Balls deep in the rough, perhaps?
  • EasterrossEasterross Posts: 1,915

    "Only Ed Miliband can stop Labour now"

    says Martin Baxter in today's Daily Telegraph.

    Afternoon all. I know Martin Baxter tends to live a month in arrears but there was a certain irony him writing that rubbish 24 hours after Crossover has taken place and the Tories now appear to be ahead in the polls.

    We know the Tories haven't managed more than 3 consecutive YouGov leads in years. Who knows what this week will bring?

    Jim Murphy is getting into a right mess in Scotland. He has announced Labour's support for no student fees for Scots in Scotland but Scots studying in England and English students studying in Scotland will still pay fees.

    Has Kevin Maguire apologised yet for the wholesale phone hacking at the Mirror yet? He was one of the shoutiest mouths against NOTW and today in court a QC said what happened at NOTW was a mere sideshow compared to what happened at the Mirror.
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,821
    edited March 2015

    The one area where the PM is wrong here is that boys are often victims of sexual abuse too:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31691061

    He didn't imply otherwise. You're taking a line about Rotherham and Oxfordshire specifically out of context.
  • JonnyJimmyJonnyJimmy Posts: 2,548
    Anorak said:

    Six spaceport locations remain in play for the UK:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-31711083

    We should have it in England. Scotland could well go its own way in the next decade or two.


    Most are in Scotland, who (as you say) could go their own way and take the spaceport with them.

    Perhaps we should choose the Welsh one. Hmmm. What if they decide to go independent?

    Perhaps its safest to pick the English one. Cornwall. Is Cornwall safe?

    'Spaceport'? Is this serious?
    'low cost rocket planes' ?? Yes we have heard all that before. Tell that to Richard Branson.
    Low cost, with all the options in the far extremes of the country?

    Since the 'spaceport' will be no more than a glorified converted RAF runway I do not think there is much for Scotland to take away should it choose.
    I've been to Stornaway, the Outer Hebrides have some lovely windswept beaches. Is anyone at all seriously suggesting we launch rockets or 'rocket planes' from there?

    You will be telling me next there is an election looming.
    If it is Campbeltown, it will be RAF Macrihanish.

    An interesting place. The runway is absolutely vast. Was rumoured to be a stop-off point for the top-secret Aurora spy plane. Also B-2 stealth bombers went through there after 9/11. And plenty of special forces training around and abouts.

    The tin-foil hat brigade linked the Mull of Kintyre Chinook disaster to activities at Macrihanish. Who knows. If it is being put forward as a space port, that rather suggests its military status may have been downgraded.
    Given there's an absolutely splendid and much-used links at the end of the runway, the tin-foil hat brigade are being whackier then usual. The UK is not like the Mid-West, where you can put a runway in the centre of a thousand square miles of desert.
    Leuchars is right next to a not too shabby links course as well.. Did they just pick the airbase sites for the golf nearby?
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    edited March 2015
    Love it. I miss Concorde's sonic boom. We seem to have gone backwards. I remember Blue Peter's *satellite* live report from it back as a kid.

    EDIT can a bird stall?
    Anorak said:

    Plato said:

    Did you see the woodpecker pix at the end of the last thread. Amazing.

    Rolf Harris has been stripped of his CBE according to BBC ticker.

    Oh noes. Who will command the British Empire now?
    Plato, yes a stunning image. Green woodpeckers are the ones that have the call that sounds like they are laughing. This chap could have gone up to a hundred feet and done a barrel roll - that would have given him the last laugh for sure!
    To be a nerd: a barrel roll would just keep the weasel in place. You can barrel roll a plane (including Concorde) without spilling your coffee if done right. A snap roll or an outside loop would be the order of the day.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,411
    edited March 2015
    Model watch:

    http://www.electionforecast.co.uk/

    Con 287
    Lab 275
    SNP 39
    Lib Dem 26
    UKip 1
  • chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341

    Looking at Scotland's answer to the first question (106 unweighted subsample), perhaps Labour should be focused on the Economy rather than the NHS.

    Economy 24% (higher than any other UK region)
    NHS 6% (lower than any other UK region)

    p.6
    https://www.ipsos-mori.com/Assets/Docs/Polls/issues-index-tables-feb-2015.pdf

    I'm not sure that Ed knows where Scotland is.

    His tuition fee policy is £6,000 maximum. They're free in Scotland.What's his policy in Scotland? Is he increasing fees to align with England? If not, why is he expecting England to pay more?

    This is where devolution leaves him, and Labour, in no-man's land.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,937
    Anorak said:

    Plato said:

    Did you see the woodpecker pix at the end of the last thread. Amazing.

    Rolf Harris has been stripped of his CBE according to BBC ticker.

    Oh noes. Who will command the British Empire now?
    Plato, yes a stunning image. Green woodpeckers are the ones that have the call that sounds like they are laughing. This chap could have gone up to a hundred feet and done a barrel roll - that would have given him the last laugh for sure!
    To be a nerd: a barrel roll would just keep the weasel in place. You can barrel roll a plane (including Concorde) without spilling your coffee if done right. A snap roll or an outside loop would be the order of the day.
    This is why I love this place. Where else on the net are you going to get, as an aside from the reason we are all here, an informed discussion of the precise type of roll a green woodpecker needs to undertake to dislodge a weasel off its back?
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,963
    Mr. Pulpstar, that's pretty close to my prediction (I had the largest two parties a few lower and the SNP a few higher).

    Miss Plato, let's hope justice is done.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,411
    May 2015:

    http://may2015.com/category/seat-calculator/

    Con 275
    Lab 267
    LD 25
    UKIP 4
    SNP 56
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    Doesn't the MOD own a bunch of golf courses already?!

    Anorak said:

    Six spaceport locations remain in play for the UK:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-31711083

    We should have it in England. Scotland could well go its own way in the next decade or two.


    Most are in Scotland, who (as you say) could go their own way and take the spaceport with them.

    Perhaps we should choose the Welsh one. Hmmm. What if they decide to go independent?

    Perhaps its safest to pick the English one. Cornwall. Is Cornwall safe?

    'Spaceport'? Is this serious?
    'low cost rocket planes' ?? Yes we have heard all that before. Tell that to Richard Branson.
    Low cost, with all the options in the far extremes of the country?

    Since the 'spaceport' will be no more than a glorified converted RAF runway I do not think there is much for Scotland to take away should it choose.
    I've been to Stornaway, the Outer Hebrides have some lovely windswept beaches. Is anyone at all seriously suggesting we launch rockets or 'rocket planes' from there?

    You will be telling me next there is an election looming.
    If it is Campbeltown, it will be RAF Macrihanish.

    An interesting place. The runway is absolutely vast. Was rumoured to be a stop-off point for the top-secret Aurora spy plane. Also B-2 stealth bombers went through there after 9/11. And plenty of special forces training around and abouts.

    The tin-foil hat brigade linked the Mull of Kintyre Chinook disaster to activities at Macrihanish. Who knows. If it is being put forward as a space port, that rather suggests its military status may have been downgraded.
    Given there's an absolutely splendid and much-used links at the end of the runway, the tin-foil hat brigade are being whackier then usual. The UK is not like the Mid-West, where you can put a runway in the centre of a thousand square miles of desert.
    Leuchars is right next to a not too shabby links course as well.. Did they just pick the airbase sites for the golf nearby?
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,937
    edited March 2015

    Anorak said:

    Six spaceport locations remain in play for the UK:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-31711083

    We should have it in England. Scotland could well go its own way in the next decade or two.


    Most are in Scotland, who (as you say) could go their own way and take the spaceport with them.

    Perhaps we should choose the Welsh one. Hmmm. What if they decide to go independent?

    Perhaps its safest to pick the English one. Cornwall. Is Cornwall safe?

    'Spaceport'? Is this serious?
    'low cost rocket planes' ?? Yes we have heard all that before. Tell that to Richard Branson.
    Low cost, with all the options in the far extremes of the country?

    Since the 'spaceport' will be no more than a glorified converted RAF runway I do not think there is much for Scotland to take away should it choose.
    I've been to Stornaway, the Outer Hebrides have some lovely windswept beaches. Is anyone at all seriously suggesting we launch rockets or 'rocket planes' from there?

    You will be telling me next there is an election looming.
    If it is Campbeltown, it will be RAF Macrihanish.

    An interesting place. The runway is absolutely vast. Was rumoured to be a stop-off point for the top-secret Aurora spy plane. Also B-2 stealth bombers went through there after 9/11. And plenty of special forces training around and abouts.

    The tin-foil hat brigade linked the Mull of Kintyre Chinook disaster to activities at Macrihanish. Who knows. If it is being put forward as a space port, that rather suggests its military status may have been downgraded.
    Given there's an absolutely splendid and much-used links at the end of the runway, the tin-foil hat brigade are being whackier then usual. The UK is not like the Mid-West, where you can put a runway in the centre of a thousand square miles of desert.
    There are said to be some golfers with interesting tales to tell after they went looking for their ball in the rough there...!
    Balls deep in the rough, perhaps?
    I couldn't possibly say.

    Although TSE could....

    EDIT: he would probably have said balls deep in a bit of rough
  • Blue_rogBlue_rog Posts: 2,019
    Re the woodpecker photo, when I saw it I immediately thought poor bu99er, having a weasel trying to bite through your spinal cord and all you can do is try to fly away. I'm really glad the weasel was frightened off by people being present or I think the bird would be dinner.
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    edited March 2015
    Discovering we had two or three experts of E. Coli re Killer Cucumbers was my personal favourite. And an Iraq weapons inspector blew my mind.

    There really isn't anything we can't answer. Who was the guy who wanted to disprove the 1molecule of water displacement theory - and conducted an experiment in his kitchen sink? That was epic.

    Anorak said:

    Plato said:

    Did you see the woodpecker pix at the end of the last thread. Amazing.

    Rolf Harris has been stripped of his CBE according to BBC ticker.

    Oh noes. Who will command the British Empire now?
    Plato, yes a stunning image. Green woodpeckers are the ones that have the call that sounds like they are laughing. This chap could have gone up to a hundred feet and done a barrel roll - that would have given him the last laugh for sure!
    To be a nerd: a barrel roll would just keep the weasel in place. You can barrel roll a plane (including Concorde) without spilling your coffee if done right. A snap roll or an outside loop would be the order of the day.
    This is why I love this place. Where else on the net are you going to get, as an aside from the reason we are all here, an informed discussion of the precise type of roll a green woodpecker needs to undertake to dislodge a weasel off its back?
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,411
    Both models leave the country in absolute no mans land as to the next Gov't. Although PM Ed on May 2015's calc, Dave remains on ElectionForecast I think.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,386
    Am currently examining the tea leave and hanging out the sea weed for inspiration Re. tonight's YG...
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,514
    edited March 2015

    "Only Ed Miliband can stop Labour now"

    says Martin Baxter in today's Daily Telegraph.

    Has Kevin Maguire apologised yet for the wholesale phone hacking at the Mirror yet? He was one of the shoutiest mouths against NOTW and today in court a QC said what happened at NOTW was a mere sideshow compared to what happened at the Mirror.
    Ahhh Kevin, how does he have a job full stop...Can you imagine many employers being happy with their most public face doing a bit of moonlighting by attending meetings to plan to set up a smear website?

    I am 100% certain Kevin didn't know anything about phone hacking though...the reason, he is never at the bloody Mirror as he is always on R5 and Sky.
  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 6,312

    Rolf Harris has been stripped of his CBE according to BBC ticker.

    Unfortunate Rolf Harris Sketch - Not The Nine O'Clock News

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkzxGr4Yx8U

    Rolf Harris has been stripped of his CBE according to BBC ticker.

    Unfortunate Rolf Harris Sketch - Not The Nine O'Clock News

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkzxGr4Yx8U
    Unfortunate? Or did they know something?

  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,300
    Woodpecker and weasel photo, reminded me of the fable of the scorpion and the frog.

    It is a stunning photograph, did wonder about photoshop for some reason.
  • nigel4englandnigel4england Posts: 4,800
    Plato said:

    I still can't quite believe it all re Rolf. Savile was always creepy, Hall I can imagineat a stretch, Rolf seemed so nice.

    Shows you can't tell.

    Rolf Harris has been stripped of his CBE according to BBC ticker.

    That'll learn him.
    He was named in Popbitch a few years ago, I just laughed when I saw it.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,411
    Glasgow Question Time panel:

    Participant Danny Alexander
    Participant Humza Yousaf
    Participant Ruth Davidson
    Participant Kezia Dugdale
    Participant Toby Young
    Participant Val McDermid
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,514
    edited March 2015

    Unfortunate? Or did they know something?

    Makes you wonder doesn't it....John Lydon in 1978 outed Jimmy Saville, but that section of the interview was cut, but now is available.

    If you go back through YouTube there are plenty of other clips which could either be unfortunate gags or a sly dig...Bernard Manning on Rolf's famous songs is another example (Alien vs Predator there).
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,937
    Plato said:

    Discovering we had two or three experts of E. Coli re Killer Cucumbers was my personal favourite. And an Iraq weapons inspector blew my mind.

    There really isn't anything we can't answer. Who was the guy who wanted to disprove the 1molecule of water displacement theory - and conducted an experiment in his kitchen sink? That was epic.

    Anorak said:

    Plato said:

    Did you see the woodpecker pix at the end of the last thread. Amazing.

    Rolf Harris has been stripped of his CBE according to BBC ticker.

    Oh noes. Who will command the British Empire now?
    Plato, yes a stunning image. Green woodpeckers are the ones that have the call that sounds like they are laughing. This chap could have gone up to a hundred feet and done a barrel roll - that would have given him the last laugh for sure!
    To be a nerd: a barrel roll would just keep the weasel in place. You can barrel roll a plane (including Concorde) without spilling your coffee if done right. A snap roll or an outside loop would be the order of the day.
    This is why I love this place. Where else on the net are you going to get, as an aside from the reason we are all here, an informed discussion of the precise type of roll a green woodpecker needs to undertake to dislodge a weasel off its back?
    I think the pb collective would actually make a very good advisory body to a democratically-elected dictator. If only we knew of such a person....
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453

    This is why I love this place. Where else on the net are you going to get, as an aside from the reason we are all here, an informed discussion of the precise type of roll a green woodpecker needs to undertake to dislodge a weasel off its back?

    Might come in handy...

    @ScottyNational: Politics: FM denies SNP would ever do a deal with Conservative against a minority Lab gov - "It's as likely as a weasel riding a woodpecker'
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,386
    edited March 2015
    Pulpstar said:

    Glasgow Question Time panel:

    Participant Danny Alexander
    Participant Humza Yousaf
    Participant Ruth Davidson
    Participant Kezia Dugdale
    Participant Toby Young
    Participant Val McDermid

    Danny's last appearance before he's an Ex-Lib-Dem politician... :cry:
  • AnorakAnorak Posts: 6,621
    Plato said:

    Love it. I miss Concorde's sonic boom. We seem to have gone backwards. I remember Blue Peter's *satellite* live report from it back as a kid.

    EDIT can a bird stall?

    Anorak said:

    Plato said:

    Did you see the woodpecker pix at the end of the last thread. Amazing.

    Rolf Harris has been stripped of his CBE according to BBC ticker.

    Oh noes. Who will command the British Empire now?
    Plato, yes a stunning image. Green woodpeckers are the ones that have the call that sounds like they are laughing. This chap could have gone up to a hundred feet and done a barrel roll - that would have given him the last laugh for sure!
    To be a nerd: a barrel roll would just keep the weasel in place. You can barrel roll a plane (including Concorde) without spilling your coffee if done right. A snap roll or an outside loop would be the order of the day.
    Yes a bird can stall, a gliding bird's wing functions just like a plane's. What's pretty cool is how quickly they get themselves out of it by pure instinct. Then again, I suppose a hundred million years of evolving out any bird which couldn't made that inevitable :)
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,568

    "Only Ed Miliband can stop Labour now"

    says Martin Baxter in today's Daily Telegraph.

    Afternoon all. I know Martin Baxter tends to live a month in arrears but there was a certain irony him writing that rubbish 24 hours after Crossover has taken place and the Tories now appear to be ahead in the polls.
    I don't know any more than you, but I think you're a bit premature in your rejoicings. We've had 4 months of deadlock and one day with two polls pointing one way and one pointing the other. You might be right, but perhaps wait a few days...
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,411
    GIN1138 said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Glasgow Question Time panel:

    Participant Danny Alexander
    Participant Humza Yousaf
    Participant Ruth Davidson
    Participant Kezia Dugdale
    Participant Toby Young
    Participant Val McDermid

    Danny's last appearance before he's an Ex-Lib-Dem politician... :cry:
    As much as I think Danny is an excellent politician I'm afraid he must go for the greater good.
  • Blue_rogBlue_rog Posts: 2,019
    edited March 2015
    Ah well Snowed in was snowed in to 4th :-)
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 43,471
    edited March 2015

    Six spaceport locations remain in play for the UK:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-31711083

    We should have it in England. Scotland could well go its own way in the next decade or two.


    Most are in Scotland, who (as you say) could go their own way and take the spaceport with them.

    Perhaps we should choose the Welsh one. Hmmm. What if they decide to go independent?

    Perhaps its safest to pick the English one. Cornwall. Is Cornwall safe?

    'Spaceport'? Is this serious?
    'low cost rocket planes' ?? Yes we have heard all that before. Tell that to Richard Branson.
    Low cost, with all the options in the far extremes of the country?

    Since the 'spaceport' will be no more than a glorified converted RAF runway I do not think there is much for Scotland to take away should it choose.
    I've been to Stornaway, the Outer Hebrides have some lovely windswept beaches. Is anyone at all seriously suggesting we launch rockets or 'rocket planes' from there?

    You will be telling me next there is an election looming.
    If it is Campbeltown, it will be RAF Macrihanish.

    An interesting place. The runway is absolutely vast. Was rumoured to be a stop-off point for the top-secret Aurora spy plane. Also B-2 stealth bombers went through there after 9/11. And plenty of special forces training around and abouts.

    The tin-foil hat brigade linked the Mull of Kintyre Chinook disaster to activities at Macrihanish. Who knows. If it is being put forward as a space port, that rather suggests its military status may have been downgraded.
    I talked to a few locals in Campeltown when I was walking through there a few years back. They laughed at the stories about the Aurora - it's a reasonably remote area, but not that remote, and locals worked at the base.

    I *think* (but might be wrong) that the airport was there as it is the first landfall on one of the cross-Atlantic great circle routes (although I would have thought NI would have been better), and, topically, it was also potentially an emergency Shuttle landing strip.

    There's lots of aircraft remains on the hills between Machrihanish and the Mull. RIP.

    (Edit: and the areas's well worth a visit - if you do, go to the churches to see the engraved grave slabs, although sadly I can't remember which church).
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,386

    "Only Ed Miliband can stop Labour now"

    says Martin Baxter in today's Daily Telegraph.

    Afternoon all. I know Martin Baxter tends to live a month in arrears but there was a certain irony him writing that rubbish 24 hours after Crossover has taken place and the Tories now appear to be ahead in the polls.
    I don't know any more than you, but I think you're a bit premature in your rejoicings. We've had 4 months of deadlock and one day with two polls pointing one way and one pointing the other. You might be right, but perhaps wait a few days...
    The next 3-4 YouGov's are going to be the most important of this Parliament...

  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    I bought a storm glass as used on The Beagle - it's a bit temperamental, but intriguing to watch it change with the weather

    a1gifts.co.uk/gifts/29cm-Storm-Glass-Barometer-with-Wooden-Base.aspx
    GIN1138 said:

    Am currently examining the tea leave and hanging out the sea weed for inspiration Re. tonight's YG...

  • weejonnieweejonnie Posts: 3,820

    Just looking at Shadsy's GE specials and my eye is caught by;

    "Exact vote tie in any seat 33/1"

    It doesn't specify that it means a dead heat for first place. Does that mean if any two parties tie for votes anywhere in the list for any seat, then the vote is a winner?

    If so that sounds like value, though I haven't given it any statistical analysis..

    It would be incredibly good value IMHO. If there are 4 or 5 'independent' candidates chasing a seat in Sheffield, Doncaster, Witney, or Thanet then there are 6 or 10 permutations. If they get less than 300 votes each then the odds look very reasonable - and there are 600+ seats!. Of course if you have to specify the seat then the odds look a lot worse.

    Although it doesn't mean anything, last time UKIP got the same number of votes in two constituencies several times. (e.g the Wrekin and Romford - 2050)

    (If there is an exact tie after several re-counts then lots are drawn by a pre-defined method e.g. toss of a coin)

    It is a virtual certainty that two candidates standing in the UK will get the same number of votes. But not guaranteed of course to be in the same constituency. Last election 4150 candidates stood for election (of whom nearly half lost their deposits). Call the average 6, remove CON,LAB,LD,UKIP and that leaves 2 independents. So you have 600 competitions where each candidate has less than 600 votes. (Even excluding marginals)
  • Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039

    "Only Ed Miliband can stop Labour now"

    says Martin Baxter in today's Daily Telegraph.

    Afternoon all. I know Martin Baxter tends to live a month in arrears but there was a certain irony him writing that rubbish 24 hours after Crossover has taken place and the Tories now appear to be ahead in the polls.
    I don't know any more than you, but I think you're a bit premature in your rejoicings. We've had 4 months of deadlock and one day with two polls pointing one way and one pointing the other. You might be right, but perhaps wait a few days...
    Quite right Nick. We need one more poll to be SURE. That's how it works, right?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,514
    I know why the real reason they haven't brought the Thick of It back...it isn't needed,

    http://order-order.com/2015/03/03/dr-no-majority/
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,411

    "Only Ed Miliband can stop Labour now"

    says Martin Baxter in today's Daily Telegraph.

    Afternoon all. I know Martin Baxter tends to live a month in arrears but there was a certain irony him writing that rubbish 24 hours after Crossover has taken place and the Tories now appear to be ahead in the polls.
    I don't know any more than you, but I think you're a bit premature in your rejoicings. We've had 4 months of deadlock and one day with two polls pointing one way and one pointing the other. You might be right, but perhaps wait a few days...
    Nick, the good news is that even if Labour have a miserable night you are, by all the models likely to get back in.

    73% chance according to Electionforecast, also in on May2015 and Jack's ARSE.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,041

    There's little chance of me voting Labour at the next election. That may surprise many on here given that I generally attack the coalition from the left. Given I live in a safe Labour seat that hardly matters. However if Ed Miliband were to get up in PMQs and bring up the phone hacking issue again with special reference to The Mirror and their indiscretions I'd have new found respect for him and might, just might, consider putting the X in their box.

    Did you see this tweet:

    Josh Halliday ✔ @JoshHalliday
    Follow
    "The mass industrial scale on which [hacking] was done [at MGN] makes the NotW look like a cottage industry and a small one at that" - court
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,514
    F##k me...

    Former CIA director General David Petraeus pleads guilty to mishandling classified materials, US government says

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-31716031
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,386
    edited March 2015
    Plato said:

    I bought a storm glass as used on The Beagle - it's a bit temperamental, but intriguing to watch it change with the weather

    a1gifts.co.uk/gifts/29cm-Storm-Glass-Barometer-with-Wooden-Base.aspx

    GIN1138 said:

    Am currently examining the tea leave and hanging out the sea weed for inspiration Re. tonight's YG...

    Back in the 80's my mum used to have one of those ornaments that changed colour with the weather (Blue when it was going to rain, white when it snowed, etc...)

    Actually seemed to work as well...

  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,386
    edited March 2015
    Pulpstar said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Glasgow Question Time panel:

    Participant Danny Alexander
    Participant Humza Yousaf
    Participant Ruth Davidson
    Participant Kezia Dugdale
    Participant Toby Young
    Participant Val McDermid

    Danny's last appearance before he's an Ex-Lib-Dem politician... :cry:
    As much as I think Danny is an excellent politician I'm afraid he must go for the greater good.
    Let me guess. Your bank account? ;)

  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    isam said:

    Charles said:

    isam said:

    Charles said:

    isam said:

    Charles said:

    Dr. Spyn, nothing wrong with feeling bloody-minded.

    Let us know what reply you get.

    I refer you to Janesh's article: "feeling vaguely cussed (in other words, British)"
    Janan Ganesh, Esq. (@JGaneshEsq)
    03/03/2015 07:45
    Thesaurus and chai latte at the ready. Time to put quill to parchment. I feel a column coming on.
    I admit that his modus operandi may be, shall we say, unusual

    But it doesn't make him wrong.

    Anyway, I rather like chai latte ;)
    Janan Ganesh, Esq. (@JGaneshEsq)
    10/02/2015 13:44
    Always use the pretentious alternative. For example, instead of saying “I have a hangover”, try “J’ai la gueule de bois”. #GaneshStyleTips
    Do you think that, just possibly, "#GaneshStyleTips" is tongue in cheek?

    p.s. are you really wasting your time scanning through a random journalist's twitter feed for bon mots?
    I am quite sure it is a piss take as I am quoting a parody account
    So why are you posting someone else's not very funny jokes? Isn't that a complete waste of your time?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,514
    edited March 2015
    RobD said:

    There's little chance of me voting Labour at the next election. That may surprise many on here given that I generally attack the coalition from the left. Given I live in a safe Labour seat that hardly matters. However if Ed Miliband were to get up in PMQs and bring up the phone hacking issue again with special reference to The Mirror and their indiscretions I'd have new found respect for him and might, just might, consider putting the X in their box.

    Did you see this tweet:

    Josh Halliday ✔ @JoshHalliday
    Follow
    "The mass industrial scale on which [hacking] was done [at MGN] makes the NotW look like a cottage industry and a small one at that" - court
    I remember hearing Matthew Wright openly admit on his C5 tv show, that basically lots of people's jobs at the Mirror was to every few hours do a sweep of 100's of peoples answering phones. In all the bluster of the NOTW, that admission seem to get lost.
  • F##k me...

    Former CIA director General David Petraeus pleads guilty to mishandling classified materials, US government says

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-31716031

    That's to do with him banging his biographer.

    Nothing more.
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    Cool. I didn't do enough flying hours to get my pilot's license - but it was the bestest 18th birthday prezzie from my mum. Unfortunately all my lessons were on Saturday mornings and I had killer hangovers to endure.

    Urgh. I feel white and pale just recalling some of them.
    Anorak said:

    Plato said:

    Love it. I miss Concorde's sonic boom. We seem to have gone backwards. I remember Blue Peter's *satellite* live report from it back as a kid.

    EDIT can a bird stall?

    Anorak said:

    Plato said:

    Did you see the woodpecker pix at the end of the last thread. Amazing.

    Rolf Harris has been stripped of his CBE according to BBC ticker.

    Oh noes. Who will command the British Empire now?
    Plato, yes a stunning image. Green woodpeckers are the ones that have the call that sounds like they are laughing. This chap could have gone up to a hundred feet and done a barrel roll - that would have given him the last laugh for sure!
    To be a nerd: a barrel roll would just keep the weasel in place. You can barrel roll a plane (including Concorde) without spilling your coffee if done right. A snap roll or an outside loop would be the order of the day.
    Yes a bird can stall, a gliding bird's wing functions just like a plane's. What's pretty cool is how quickly they get themselves out of it by pure instinct. Then again, I suppose a hundred million years of evolving out any bird which couldn't made that inevitable :)
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 43,363

    Six spaceport locations remain in play for the UK:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-31711083

    We should have it in England. Scotland could well go its own way in the next decade or two.


    Most are in Scotland, who (as you say) could go their own way and take the spaceport with them.

    Perhaps we should choose the Welsh one. Hmmm. What if they decide to go independent?

    Perhaps its safest to pick the English one. Cornwall. Is Cornwall safe?

    'Spaceport'? Is this serious?
    'low cost rocket planes' ?? Yes we have heard all that before. Tell that to Richard Branson.
    Low cost, with all the options in the far extremes of the country?

    Since the 'spaceport' will be no more than a glorified converted RAF runway I do not think there is much for Scotland to take away should it choose.
    I've been to Stornaway, the Outer Hebrides have some lovely windswept beaches. Is anyone at all seriously suggesting we launch rockets or 'rocket planes' from there?

    You will be telling me next there is an election looming.
    The Outer Hebrides rocket range, out on the machair, was where British military land-based rockets were tested for many years - even Corporal and the like IIRC - and may still be for all I know. That's why a radar station was based on St Kilda, to track the rockets downrange.

  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,041

    F##k me...

    Former CIA director General David Petraeus pleads guilty to mishandling classified materials, US government says

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-31716031

    That's to do with him banging his biographer.

    Nothing more.
    is "classified materials" a euphemism, in this case?
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 43,471

    The one area where the PM is wrong here is that boys are often victims of sexual abuse too:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31691061

    It's a bit sick for a Labour supporter to suggest that.

    After all, men don't get abused, do they? If so, then why did Ed appoint a 'Shadow Minister for Preventing Violence Against Women and Girls' but not one for men?

    Perhaps the misandric Labour Party you support would like to read the following:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28935733
    http://www.barnardos.org.uk/16144_su_cse_rapid_evidence_report_v5.pdf
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    I noticed that Malcolm was also in Dangerous Liaison as John Malcovitch's valet. He's great in that role but it's really hard to see him as both characters - and that's without Dr Who.

    I know why the real reason they haven't brought the Thick of It back...it isn't needed,

    http://order-order.com/2015/03/03/dr-no-majority/

  • RobD said:

    F##k me...

    Former CIA director General David Petraeus pleads guilty to mishandling classified materials, US government says

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-31716031

    That's to do with him banging his biographer.

    Nothing more.
    is "classified materials" a euphemism, in this case?
    If I remember correctly he gave her access to his email account so she could see his schedule and they could arrange trysts.

    Never misunderestimate the stupidity of a man when sex is involved.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,937
    GIN1138 said:

    Am currently examining the tea leave and hanging out the sea weed for inspiration Re. tonight's YG...

    Feel free to call on my divining of the intestines of small animals for the purpose of predicting poll outcomes, also known as the Blatantly Unreliable Marquee Mark Entrails Reader......

    Obviously, His Lordship uses it.

    (Joke, His Lordship's lawyers!)
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 43,363

    Six spaceport locations remain in play for the UK:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-31711083

    We should have it in England. Scotland could well go its own way in the next decade or two.


    Most are in Scotland, who (as you say) could go their own way and take the spaceport with them.

    Perhaps we should choose the Welsh one. Hmmm. What if they decide to go independent?

    Perhaps its safest to pick the English one. Cornwall. Is Cornwall safe?

    'Spaceport'? Is this serious?
    'low cost rocket planes' ?? Yes we have heard all that before. Tell that to Richard Branson.
    Low cost, with all the options in the far extremes of the country?

    Since the 'spaceport' will be no more than a glorified converted RAF runway I do not think there is much for Scotland to take away should it choose.
    I've been to Stornaway, the Outer Hebrides have some lovely windswept beaches. Is anyone at all seriously suggesting we launch rockets or 'rocket planes' from there?

    You will be telling me next there is an election looming.
    If it is Campbeltown, it will be RAF Macrihanish.

    An interesting place. The runway is absolutely vast. Was rumoured to be a stop-off point for the top-secret Aurora spy plane. Also B-2 stealth bombers went through there after 9/11. And plenty of special forces training around and abouts.

    The tin-foil hat brigade linked the Mull of Kintyre Chinook disaster to activities at Macrihanish. Who knows. If it is being put forward as a space port, that rather suggests its military status may have been downgraded.
    It may be a logical place for a military airport, or an experimental rocket base that might blast liquid oxygen everywhere at any moment. But do any of these places gel as a commercial space venture?
    The Chinook crashed in bad weather. I mean is that a good omen?
    The Chinook did not crash because of bad weather: but because it carried on its flight into local cloud and fog which happened to have a hill in it. (Why it did is the key question, and I'm not going to get into that.)

  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,386

    GIN1138 said:

    Am currently examining the tea leave and hanging out the sea weed for inspiration Re. tonight's YG...

    Feel free to call on my divining of the intestines of small animals for the purpose of predicting poll outcomes, also known as the Blatantly Unreliable Marquee Mark Entrails Reader......

    The mist's are clearing nicely actually...

  • MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034
    On topic.

    TSE I have doubts about this sort of question in general. I think the answers given are to a different question, which is "what do you see as the biggest problem that needs addressing right now?" Now that is still relevant as to what issues parties should campaign on, in order to demonstrate how they would address issues which the public have identified as problems. But it is very different from the question of what people think are the most important issues to vote on. Just because the economy is now not seen as an imminent problem which no longer needs fixing, does not mean that people do not recognize that proper stewardship of that issue going forward is an important issue with which to inform their vote.

    Is that a quadruple negative in my last sentence? :)
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    I listened to the whole McCrystal speech thingy and he was epically inspiring. I was spellbound. IIRC he was un PC off the record to a Rolling Stone reporter and professionally hung for it.

    Some inspiring guys are roadkill.

    RobD said:

    F##k me...

    Former CIA director General David Petraeus pleads guilty to mishandling classified materials, US government says

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-31716031

    That's to do with him banging his biographer.

    Nothing more.
    is "classified materials" a euphemism, in this case?
    If I remember correctly he gave her access to his email account so she could see his schedule and they could arrange trysts.

    Never misunderestimate the stupidity of a man when sex is involved.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,538

    "Only Ed Miliband can stop Labour now"

    says Martin Baxter in today's Daily Telegraph.

    Afternoon all. I know Martin Baxter tends to live a month in arrears but there was a certain irony him writing that rubbish 24 hours after Crossover has taken place and the Tories now appear to be ahead in the polls.
    I don't know any more than you, but I think you're a bit premature in your rejoicings. We've had 4 months of deadlock and one day with two polls pointing one way and one pointing the other. You might be right, but perhaps wait a few days...
    Quite right Nick. We need one more poll to be SURE. That's how it works, right?
    Half a dozen polls to be sure, I think. It *looks* as though something interesting may be underway (with four Conservative leads, four ties, and five Labour leads over the past week), but we can't yet be sure whether it's just a blip, and if the Conservatives are pulling ahead, how big their lead will be.
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,142
    edited March 2015
    This data (on most important issue=NHS respondents) reinforces data from a few weeks ago that went mostly unnoticed (except on here) which, IIRC, showed that people with VI stated as Tory were more concerned about the NHS than VI Labour.

    Musing on this in combination with apparent average polling crossover and constituency data showing SE as a high population density Tory stronghold (the odd the poorer constituencies on Essex/Kent border, Hants coast and London excepted) I'm pretty buoyed by it, because it means that NHS is considered the biggest issue by voters who are

    - otherwise natural Tory voters, and therefore are going to have to be swung not from apathy to Labour, but Tory to Labour - which is harder to do by a party peddling the politics of envy rather than embarking on a prawn cocktail campaign

    - unlikely to be made in a marginal

    - generally older*

    *Although I think the NHS is a great institution in theory, and often in practice, I'm pleased that my own generation doesn't see it as the talisman topic on which all politics has to be judged on

    If I were in EdM's strategy team, I would be terrified given that the NHS is seemingly the only positive policy topic they have, and that it isn't the most significant issue for the voters Labour need to attract to not remain in opposition.
  • MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034

    F##k me...

    Former CIA director General David Petraeus pleads guilty to mishandling classified materials, US government says

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-31716031

    That's to do with him banging his biographer.

    Nothing more.
    I wonder if Hillary will be charged with mishandling classified materials for having exclusively used her personal email for all her State Department work? Not! Double standards.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,963
    Only the octo-lemurs can truly see the future!
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 43,363
    Carnyx said:



    Six spaceport locations remain in play for the UK:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-31711083

    We should have it in England. Scotland could well go its own way in the next decade or two.


    Most are in Scotland, who (as you say) could go their own way and take the spaceport with them.

    Perhaps we should choose the Welsh one. Hmmm. What if they decide to go independent?

    Perhaps its safest to pick the English one. Cornwall. Is Cornwall safe?

    'Spaceport'? Is this serious?
    'low cost rocket planes' ?? Yes we have heard all that before. Tell that to Richard Branson.
    Low cost, with all the options in the far extremes of the country?

    Since the 'spaceport' will be no more than a glorified converted RAF runway I do not think there is much for Scotland to take away should it choose.
    I've been to Stornaway, the Outer Hebrides have some lovely windswept beaches. Is anyone at all seriously suggesting we launch rockets or 'rocket planes' from there?

    You will be telling me next there is an election looming.
    The Outer Hebrides rocket range, out on the machair, was where British military land-based rockets were tested for many years - even Corporal and the like IIRC - and may still be for all I know. That's why a radar station was based on St Kilda, to track the rockets downrange.

    PS Here's a Corporal being launched in 1961. IIRC those were training firings rather than r & d - must have been quite an outing for the gunners.

    http://www.britishpathe.com/video/missile-firing

  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,411
    Tonight's Yougov feels absolutely critical to me. Along with his Lordship's polling tommorow.

    Feels 'bigger' for Labour than the Tories too...
  • weejonnieweejonnie Posts: 3,820
    I'll add a comment to my earlier comment. In the 2010 election in Luton South, 6 candidates scored 463 or fewer seats. The probability of there being a match there comes out at 3.2% or 31.25/1. The same happened in Hackney. Assuming the results were independent then that gives a 6.4% chance of either of the two happening. Pile on!

    In Bethnal Green http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bethnal_Green_and_Bow_(UK_Parliament_constituency) there actually WAS a tie.

    In this election it is expected that there will be a higher turnout (bad news), but in many seats the LD vote will approximate an independent (good news)
  • MTimT said:

    F##k me...

    Former CIA director General David Petraeus pleads guilty to mishandling classified materials, US government says

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-31716031

    That's to do with him banging his biographer.

    Nothing more.
    I wonder if Hillary will be charged with mishandling classified materials for having exclusively used her personal email for all her State Department work? Not! Double standards.
    I'm absolutely amazed that this broke during the Netanyahu speech.

    Shocked I tell you
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    IIRC you mentioned in the past being on a Grand Jury - I''m only familiar with them as TV show scenarios - do they tend to indite or not? The Good Wife series claims that for example Chicago ones would indite a ham sandwich.
    MTimT said:

    F##k me...

    Former CIA director General David Petraeus pleads guilty to mishandling classified materials, US government says

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-31716031

    That's to do with him banging his biographer.

    Nothing more.
    I wonder if Hillary will be charged with mishandling classified materials for having exclusively used her personal email for all her State Department work? Not! Double standards.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,386
    Pulpstar said:

    Tonight's Yougov feels absolutely critical to me. Along with his Lordship's polling tommorow.

    Feels 'bigger' for Labour than the Tories too...

    Tonight's YouGov is big, but tomorrow and Thursday's possibly even bigger.

    I saw an interesting post on UKPR pointing out that all previous Con leads with YouGov have been on Monday's and Tuesday's but have never been maintained to Wed, Thu and Sat...
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    edited March 2015
    Charles said:

    isam said:

    Charles said:

    isam said:

    Charles said:

    isam said:

    Charles said:

    Dr. Spyn, nothing wrong with feeling bloody-minded.

    Let us know what reply you get.

    I refer you to Janesh's article: "feeling vaguely cussed (in other words, British)"
    Janan Ganesh, Esq. (@JGaneshEsq)
    03/03/2015 07:45
    Thesaurus and chai latte at the ready. Time to put quill to parchment. I feel a column coming on.
    I admit that his modus operandi may be, shall we say, unusual

    But it doesn't make him wrong.

    Anyway, I rather like chai latte ;)
    Janan Ganesh, Esq. (@JGaneshEsq)
    10/02/2015 13:44
    Always use the pretentious alternative. For example, instead of saying “I have a hangover”, try “J’ai la gueule de bois”. #GaneshStyleTips
    Do you think that, just possibly, "#GaneshStyleTips" is tongue in cheek?

    p.s. are you really wasting your time scanning through a random journalist's twitter feed for bon mots?
    I am quite sure it is a piss take as I am quoting a parody account
    So why are you posting someone else's not very funny jokes? Isn't that a complete waste of your time?
    Oooh touchy!

    If I had known falling for it would have upset you so much, I wouldn't have posted them

    My most sincere contrafibularities
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,411
    GIN1138 said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Tonight's Yougov feels absolutely critical to me. Along with his Lordship's polling tommorow.

    Feels 'bigger' for Labour than the Tories too...

    Tonight's YouGov is big, but tomorrow and Thursday's possibly even bigger.

    I saw an interesting post on UKPR pointing out that all previous Con leads with YouGov have been on Monday's and Tuesday's but have never been maintained to Wed, Thu and Sat...
    The CON lead in last night's Yougov was as a result of weightings too - yes yes I know, I know. We all live in awe, fear and slight apprehension of what the good Lord will bring tommorow though.
  • GIN1138 said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Tonight's Yougov feels absolutely critical to me. Along with his Lordship's polling tommorow.

    Feels 'bigger' for Labour than the Tories too...

    Tonight's YouGov is big, but tomorrow and Thursday's possibly even bigger.

    I saw an interesting post on UKPR pointing out that all previous Con leads with YouGov have been on Monday's and Tuesday's but have never been maintained to Wed, Thu and Sat...
    That's not true. The first Tory lead last year was on a Thursday.
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    You sound like a teenager trying to rile a gentleman.
    isam said:

    Charles said:

    isam said:

    Charles said:

    isam said:

    Charles said:

    isam said:

    Charles said:

    Dr. Spyn, nothing wrong with feeling bloody-minded.

    Let us know what reply you get.

    I refer you to Janesh's article: "feeling vaguely cussed (in other words, British)"
    Janan Ganesh, Esq. (@JGaneshEsq)
    03/03/2015 07:45
    Thesaurus and chai latte at the ready. Time to put quill to parchment. I feel a column coming on.
    I admit that his modus operandi may be, shall we say, unusual

    But it doesn't make him wrong.

    Anyway, I rather like chai latte ;)
    Janan Ganesh, Esq. (@JGaneshEsq)
    10/02/2015 13:44
    Always use the pretentious alternative. For example, instead of saying “I have a hangover”, try “J’ai la gueule de bois”. #GaneshStyleTips
    Do you think that, just possibly, "#GaneshStyleTips" is tongue in cheek?

    p.s. are you really wasting your time scanning through a random journalist's twitter feed for bon mots?
    I am quite sure it is a piss take as I am quoting a parody account
    So why are you posting someone else's not very funny jokes? Isn't that a complete waste of your time?
    Oooh touchy!

    If I had known falling for it would have upset you so much, I wouldn't have posted them

    My most sincere contrafibularities
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    isam said:

    Charles said:

    isam said:

    Charles said:

    isam said:

    Charles said:

    isam said:

    Charles said:

    Dr. Spyn, nothing wrong with feeling bloody-minded.

    Let us know what reply you get.

    I refer you to Janesh's article: "feeling vaguely cussed (in other words, British)"
    Janan Ganesh, Esq. (@JGaneshEsq)
    03/03/2015 07:45
    Thesaurus and chai latte at the ready. Time to put quill to parchment. I feel a column coming on.
    I admit that his modus operandi may be, shall we say, unusual

    But it doesn't make him wrong.

    Anyway, I rather like chai latte ;)
    Janan Ganesh, Esq. (@JGaneshEsq)
    10/02/2015 13:44
    Always use the pretentious alternative. For example, instead of saying “I have a hangover”, try “J’ai la gueule de bois”. #GaneshStyleTips
    Do you think that, just possibly, "#GaneshStyleTips" is tongue in cheek?

    p.s. are you really wasting your time scanning through a random journalist's twitter feed for bon mots?
    I am quite sure it is a piss take as I am quoting a parody account
    So why are you posting someone else's not very funny jokes? Isn't that a complete waste of your time?
    Oooh touchy!

    If I had known falling for it would have upset you so much, I wouldn't have posted them

    My most sincere contrafibularities
    Actually I don't really care. They were mildly amusing, and plausible, but that's about it.

    But I still don't understand why you bothered.
  • In fact we had Tory leads on Saturday as well.
  • MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034
    Anorak said:

    Six spaceport locations remain in play for the UK:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-31711083

    We should have it in England. Scotland could well go its own way in the next decade or two.


    Most are in Scotland, who (as you say) could go their own way and take the spaceport with them.

    Perhaps we should choose the Welsh one. Hmmm. What if they decide to go independent?

    Perhaps its safest to pick the English one. Cornwall. Is Cornwall safe?

    'Spaceport'? Is this serious?
    'low cost rocket planes' ?? Yes we have heard all that before. Tell that to Richard Branson.
    Low cost, with all the options in the far extremes of the country?

    Since the 'spaceport' will be no more than a glorified converted RAF runway I do not think there is much for Scotland to take away should it choose.
    I've been to Stornaway, the Outer Hebrides have some lovely windswept beaches. Is anyone at all seriously suggesting we launch rockets or 'rocket planes' from there?

    You will be telling me next there is an election looming.
    If it is Campbeltown, it will be RAF Macrihanish.

    An interesting place. The runway is absolutely vast. Was rumoured to be a stop-off point for the top-secret Aurora spy plane. Also B-2 stealth bombers went through there after 9/11. And plenty of special forces training around and abouts.

    The tin-foil hat brigade linked the Mull of Kintyre Chinook disaster to activities at Macrihanish. Who knows. If it is being put forward as a space port, that rather suggests its military status may have been downgraded.
    Given there's an absolutely splendid and much-used links at the end of the runway, the tin-foil hat brigade are being whackier then usual. The UK is not like the Mid-West, where you can put a runway in the centre of a thousand square miles of desert.
    Pedant time - the Midwest comprises Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, North Dakota, Ohio, South Dakota, and Wisconsin - mostly pretty good farmland.

    Bit of a stretch to call the Great Plains and prairie desert, but I get your drift - no big open spaces.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midwestern_United_States#Physical_geography
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,386

    GIN1138 said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Tonight's Yougov feels absolutely critical to me. Along with his Lordship's polling tommorow.

    Feels 'bigger' for Labour than the Tories too...

    Tonight's YouGov is big, but tomorrow and Thursday's possibly even bigger.

    I saw an interesting post on UKPR pointing out that all previous Con leads with YouGov have been on Monday's and Tuesday's but have never been maintained to Wed, Thu and Sat...
    That's not true. The first Tory lead last year was on a Thursday.
    You need to get on UKPR and tell the commentators to stop peddling cr*p.
  • Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    weejonnie said:

    I'll add a comment to my earlier comment. In the 2010 election in Luton South, 6 candidates scored 463 or fewer seats. The probability of there being a match there comes out at 3.2% or 31.25/1. The same happened in Hackney. Assuming the results were independent then that gives a 6.4% chance of either of the two happening. Pile on!

    In Bethnal Green http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bethnal_Green_and_Bow_(UK_Parliament_constituency) there actually WAS a tie.

    In this election it is expected that there will be a higher turnout (bad news), but in many seats the LD vote will approximate an independent (good news)

    As discussed earlier the 33/1 is for a tie for 1st. Shadsy might wish to make this clearer.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,411
    If anyone wants to bet on the Conservatives then Tory Votes, Tory Seats is available at 1.9 here:

    https://www.betfair.com/exchange/politics/market?id=1.116239998
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    Charles said:

    isam said:

    Charles said:

    isam said:

    Charles said:

    isam said:

    Charles said:

    isam said:

    Charles said:

    Dr. Spyn, nothing wrong with feeling bloody-minded.

    Let us know what reply you get.

    I refer you to Janesh's article: "feeling vaguely cussed (in other words, British)"
    Janan Ganesh, Esq. (@JGaneshEsq)
    03/03/2015 07:45
    Thesaurus and chai latte at the ready. Time to put quill to parchment. I feel a column coming on.
    I admit that his modus operandi may be, shall we say, unusual

    But it doesn't make him wrong.

    Anyway, I rather like chai latte ;)
    Janan Ganesh, Esq. (@JGaneshEsq)
    10/02/2015 13:44
    Always use the pretentious alternative. For example, instead of saying “I have a hangover”, try “J’ai la gueule de bois”. #GaneshStyleTips
    Do you think that, just possibly, "#GaneshStyleTips" is tongue in cheek?

    p.s. are you really wasting your time scanning through a random journalist's twitter feed for bon mots?
    I am quite sure it is a piss take as I am quoting a parody account
    So why are you posting someone else's not very funny jokes? Isn't that a complete waste of your time?
    Oooh touchy!

    If I had known falling for it would have upset you so much, I wouldn't have posted them

    My most sincere contrafibularities
    Actually I don't really care. They were mildly amusing, and plausible, but that's about it.

    But I still don't understand why you bothered.
    You posted

    "I refer you to Janesh's article: "feeling vaguely cussed (in other words, British)"

    Which reminded me of the parody account.

    Should be clear as crystal now Chas me ol' muckah
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