Heseltine is one of the very best Con communicators - if you had to choose three (still functioning!) I would go Cameron, Major, Heseltine - as such he is the perfect QT panellist for Con.
Of course the head bangers will think differently but Cameron is trying to win an election - not please them.
Who wants to prove up Libs and greens combined vs ukip GE vote share?? Any offers??
Yes I'll take that. What odds? You're going on the ukip side I guess? ;-)
You price it and I'll see if I want to bet
You threw the bait ;-) Well evens then I suppose? Me LDs & Greens vote share to equal or beat Ukip vote share. Dicey bet cos I can see something like 7 + 4 vs 12 giving you the win so only bit of fun for a low stake plse. £10? You may hook someone wanting bigger volume.
Why ? Have you seen the loan document ? There maybe clauses in there where the bank could call the loan in. Therefore, don't upset them !
Of course there will be such clauses, as is absolutely standard.
But the idea that HSBC are doing a special favour loaning £250m, on the basis of a personal guarantee by the Barclay brothers (estimated wealth: £6bn, according to the Sunday Times Rich List of 2014), is ridiculous. Can you think of any major bank in the Western world which wouldn't lend £250m on such a basis?
The Daily Telegraph has been politically conservative in modern times. The personal links between the paper's editors and the leadership of the Conservative Party, along with the paper's generally right wing stance and influence over Conservative activists, have resulted in the paper commonly being referred to, especially in Private Eye, as the Torygraph.
The Berrys (Harmsworth) were married into the Conservative Party.
Black (who bought it in, I think, 84) was an ideological soulmate of Thatcher
It's only after the boys from Brecqhou got involved that it all began to go downhill
I cant remember the last time I saw anyone carrying the Telegraph but then again, I don't commute.
I can't remember the last time I saw anyone carrying anything other than free copies of Metro or the Standard, and I do commute. Most thesedays read or listen to a smartphone or pad and don't buy a paper.
Me too. Metro mornings + phones, iPads and kindles. Standard afternoons. One exception -the FT too mornings. Never see the others.
Who wants to prove up Libs and greens combined vs ukip GE vote share?? Any offers??
Yes I'll take that. What odds? You're going on the ukip side I guess? ;-)
You price it and I'll see if I want to bet
You threw the bait ;-) Well evens then I suppose? Me LDs & Greens vote share to equal or beat Ukip vote share. Dicey bet cos I can see something like 7 + 4 vs 12 giving you the win so only bit of fun for a low stake plse. £10? You may hook someone wanting bigger volume.
I'll back the greens plus lib Dems at evens
Confusion in purseyville. Thought you were going ukip side? I'd bet on LDs & Greens equalling or beating Ukip. Not going t'other way.
YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead by one: CON 32%, LAB 33%, LD 9%, UKIP 15%, GRN 6%
Q. How do YG get such little variation? Doesn't make sense unless they poll the same people every day? Should be much more MoE showing surely?
YouGov has a polling panel of about 300k - so the same people not polled everyday.
So how come such static results Mike? Scratching my head over it.
When Audrey releases her extraordinary findings we will know why the polls are wrong
My study a while a go showed considerably more variation than standard margin of error. This is to be expected since margin of error is based solely on sampling error, which is tackled by quotas, but is not the only source of error. I can run the figures to check more recently?
Noone gives a toss about Question time any more. its tired, boring and predictable. Its slightly less dire than the Jeremy Kyle show, but there's not much in it.
PB wisdom index update before Bob Count 315 Cons (Avg) 284.62 Lab (Avg) 280.64 Lib Dem (Avg) 27.22 UKIP (Avg) 4.38 Green (Avg) 1.02 SNP (Avg) 33.07
At least it seems that PBers can add up ....... the sum of the above comes to 630, add 18 for N.I. and a couple for Plaid Cymru and hey presto one gets to 650 seats!
Suppose Yougov Poll 1000 out of 300000 repeatedly, it doesn't take long (much quicker than many would think) for some of the same people to be re-polled.
It's sort of like the double birthday situation. Ask 23 people in a room their date of birth (not year) and the odds are 50-50 that two people will have the same birthday.
Noone gives a toss about Question time any more. its tired, boring and predictable. Its slightly less dire than the Jeremy Kyle show, but there's not much in it.
That and Newsnight....Massive yawn. I prefer to get my left leaning political output from CH4 News.
YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead by one: CON 32%, LAB 33%, LD 9%, UKIP 15%, GRN 6%
Q. How do YG get such little variation? Doesn't make sense unless they poll the same people every day? Should be much more MoE showing surely?
YouGov has a polling panel of about 300k - so the same people not polled everyday.
So how come such static results Mike? Scratching my head over it.
When Audrey releases her extraordinary findings we will know why the polls are wrong
My study a while a go showed considerably more variation than standard margin of error. This is to be expected since margin of error is based solely on sampling error, which is tackled by quotas, but is not the only source of error. I can run the figures to check more recently?
I'm hitting the sack but still don't get this YG then. If Mikes 300k panel base is right maybe they only use a minute portion for political polling? I don't get it. Polls should move around not be static. Something doesn't wash quite right for me.
Suppose Yougov Poll 1000 out of 300000 repeatedly, it doesn't take long (much quicker than many would think) for some of the same people to be re-polled.
It's sort of like the double birthday situation. Ask 23 people in a room their date of birth (not year) and the odds are 50-50 that two people will have the same birthday.
Wonder when we will get the next Pollgasm. The next poll showing the Tory Party say 6% in front. Just to see this place go into a mini-meltdown. It is one of the most entertaining things on here.
"It's sort of like the double birthday situation. Ask 23 people in a room their date of birth (not year) and the odds are 50-50 that two people will have the same birthday."
I've heard that said a number of times so I guess it must be true true ..... difficult to get one's head around though!
Wonder when we will get the next Pollgasm. The next poll showing the Tory Party say 6% in front. Just to see this place go into a mini-meltdown. It is one of the most entertaining things on here.
Blasphemy. I'm just getting used to your daily 10.30pm Basilisk post.
Night all. Isam let me know if I'm around for that bet but sounds like you're not keenie beanie on it.
Who wants to prove up Libs and greens combined vs ukip GE vote share?? Any offers??
Yes I'll take that. What odds? You're going on the ukip side I guess? ;-)
You price it and I'll see if I want to bet
You threw the bait ;-) Well evens then I suppose? Me LDs & Greens vote share to equal or beat Ukip vote share. Dicey bet cos I can see something like 7 + 4 vs 12 giving you the win so only bit of fun for a low stake plse. £10? You may hook someone wanting bigger volume.
I'll back the greens plus lib Dems at evens
Confusion in purseyville. Thought you were going ukip side? I'd bet on LDs & Greens equalling or beating Ukip. Not going t'other way.
No I just wondered what price people thought it would be... You said evens so I want to be against ukip
Oh well I think you were trying it on, we will just stick to our bet on ukip seats x 4 beating or equalling lib Dems
YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead by one: CON 32%, LAB 33%, LD 9%, UKIP 15%, GRN 6%
Q. How do YG get such little variation? Doesn't make sense unless they poll the same people every day? Should be much more MoE showing surely?
YouGov has a polling panel of about 300k - so the same people not polled everyday.
But do they re-use one day's polling in the next poll, or use a completely new sample for both days?
The Yougov Panel size may well be 300,000 plus but active respondents will be far fewer than that probably 1/3rd to 1/2 . Some will have died , changed their Email contact details , become disinterested in answering surveys etc etc .
YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead by one: CON 32%, LAB 33%, LD 9%, UKIP 15%, GRN 6%
Q. How do YG get such little variation? Doesn't make sense unless they poll the same people every day? Should be much more MoE showing surely?
YouGov has a polling panel of about 300k - so the same people not polled everyday.
So how come such static results Mike? Scratching my head over it.
When Audrey releases her extraordinary findings we will know why the polls are wrong
My study a while a go showed considerably more variation than standard margin of error. This is to be expected since margin of error is based solely on sampling error, which is tackled by quotas, but is not the only source of error. I can run the figures to check more recently?
I'm hitting the sack but still don't get this YG then. If Mikes 300k panel base is right maybe they only use a minute portion for political polling? I don't get it. Polls should move around not be static. Something doesn't wash quite right for me.
Well, I ran the figures. YouGov this year has been more consistent than in previous years, with 95% of polls putting the Labour lead within 2 percent of the "true figure" - a number I've calculated on a five poll moving average. Sampling error alone would be within 3%, so yes, YouGov's have been remarkable consistent.
As I say there are things you can do to reduce sampling error, but to account for all other sorts of error and reduce it further, seems like a big ask.
Good to see Heseltine slap down Fallon on the Baltics, he has embarrassed the country and should remember the responsibilities of the position he holds, shameless warmongering.
Labour’s biggest private donor is the accountancy firm PricewaterhouseCoopers the Electoral Commission revealed yesterday despite accusations from a senior Labour MP that the firm has been “selling tax avoidance on an industrial scale”.
A PwC “forensic accountant” for the firm worked in the office of Ed Balls, according to Parliamentary records, while a manager of PwC’s capital markets division worked with Chuka Umunna in the Labour business team.
Rachel Reeves, the shadow work and pensions secretary, and Chris Leslie, shadow chief secretary, also recorded the use of PwC staff in their register of members’ interests.
Labour’s biggest private donor is the accountancy firm PricewaterhouseCoopers the Electoral Commission revealed yesterday despite accusations from a senior Labour MP that the firm has been “selling tax avoidance on an industrial scale”.
A PwC “forensic accountant” for the firm worked in the office of Ed Balls, according to Parliamentary records, while a manager of PwC’s capital markets division worked with Chuka Umunna in the Labour business team.
Rachel Reeves, the shadow work and pensions secretary, and Chris Leslie, shadow chief secretary, also recorded the use of PwC staff in their register of members’ interests.
@Scott_P Do you have the details of the donation Scott, it appears to be behind a pay wall?
The Electoral Commission revealed Labour received the £386,605 donation in kind from PWC in November...and made the firm the party’s biggest private donor
Labour’s biggest private donor is the accountancy firm PricewaterhouseCoopers the Electoral Commission revealed yesterday despite accusations from a senior Labour MP that the firm has been “selling tax avoidance on an industrial scale”.
A PwC “forensic accountant” for the firm worked in the office of Ed Balls, according to Parliamentary records, while a manager of PwC’s capital markets division worked with Chuka Umunna in the Labour business team.
Rachel Reeves, the shadow work and pensions secretary, and Chris Leslie, shadow chief secretary, also recorded the use of PwC staff in their register of members’ interests.
Michael Heseltine and Kenneth Clarke were the prime reasons I joined the Tory party.
So why haven't you left?
I think you may be a similar age to me. I never really understood the hatred towards the Tories when I was growing up in the 90s. Mind you I came from a Tory voting family and only really knew Major, Heseltine and Clarke. Obviously there was the sleazy stuff and then I learnt more about the 80s and what went on. The realisation from about 2002 onwards that the Press was overwhelmingly Tory and the Blair love - in was just a blip has taken some getting used to.
I would think it was. The smaller parties like UKIP and the Greens could rightly complain about PwC giving what they claim is a non-political donation to the "big three", and not giving them equal access.
Michael Heseltine and Kenneth Clarke were the prime reasons I joined the Tory party.
So why haven't you left?
I think you may be a similar age to me. I never really understood the hatred towards the Tories when I was growing up in the 90s. Mind you I came from a Tory voting family and only really knew Major, Heseltine and Clarke. Obviously there was the sleazy stuff and then I learnt more about the 80s and what went on. The realisation from about 2002 onwards that the Press was overwhelmingly Tory and the Blair love - in was just a blip has taken some getting used to.
I'm a socially liberal, fiscal conservative, the Tory party has managed to tick most of boxes I like since I joined in 1997.
I'm happy with the Tory party as it is now, I mean, if I didn't leave when we were led by IDS and his curious brand of social conservatism and eye watering unpopularity, I'm not going to leave now.
Once we get the blasted in/out referendum, there'll be peace in our time, as the perpetual fault line over Europe, will be fixed (I hope)
Although Scrapheap and I, have made plans to set up a new party, The Dry but not obsessed by the gays and Europe Tory Party should the need arise.
Patrons of this new party will be Sir John Major, Kenneth Clarke, Michael Heseltine and Jacob Rees-Mogg
Labour’s biggest private donor is the accountancy firm PricewaterhouseCoopers the Electoral Commission revealed yesterday despite accusations from a senior Labour MP that the firm has been “selling tax avoidance on an industrial scale”.
A PwC “forensic accountant” for the firm worked in the office of Ed Balls, according to Parliamentary records, while a manager of PwC’s capital markets division worked with Chuka Umunna in the Labour business team.
Rachel Reeves, the shadow work and pensions secretary, and Chris Leslie, shadow chief secretary, also recorded the use of PwC staff in their register of members’ interests.
Michael Heseltine and Kenneth Clarke were the prime reasons I joined the Tory party.
So why haven't you left?
I think you may be a similar age to me. I never really understood the hatred towards the Tories when I was growing up in the 90s. Mind you I came from a Tory voting family and only really knew Major, Heseltine and Clarke. Obviously there was the sleazy stuff and then I learnt more about the 80s and what went on. The realisation from about 2002 onwards that the Press was overwhelmingly Tory and the Blair love - in was just a blip has taken some getting used to.
I'm a socially liberal, fiscal conservative, the Tory party has managed to tick most of boxes I like since I joined in 1997.
I'm happy with the Tory party as it is now, I mean, if I didn't leave when we were led by IDS and his curious brand of social conservatism and eye watering unpopularity, I'm not going to leave now.
Once we get the blasted in/out referendum, there'll be peace in our time, as the perpetual fault line over Europe, will be fixed (I hope)
Although Scrapheap and I, have made plans to set up a new party, The Dry but not obsessed by the gays and Europe Tory Party should the need arise.
Patrons of this new party will be Sir John Major, Kenneth Clarke, Michael Heseltine and Jacob Rees-Mogg
Rees-Mogg would make a pretty good PM I reckon actually, but he could never get in due to class prejudice
I would think it was. The smaller parties like UKIP and the Greens could rightly complain about PwC giving what they claim is a non-political donation to the "big three", and not giving them equal access.
The Labour party under Blair spent absolute fortunes on management consultants. I am sure the donation from PWC will have absolutely no bearing on the the awarding of juicy government contracts if Labour were to win the election.
Michael Heseltine and Kenneth Clarke were the prime reasons I joined the Tory party.
So why haven't you left?
I think you may be a similar age to me. I never really understood the hatred towards the Tories when I was growing up in the 90s. Mind you I came from a Tory voting family and only really knew Major, Heseltine and Clarke. Obviously there was the sleazy stuff and then I learnt more about the 80s and what went on. The realisation from about 2002 onwards that the Press was overwhelmingly Tory and the Blair love - in was just a blip has taken some getting used to.
I'm a socially liberal, fiscal conservative, the Tory party has managed to tick most of boxes I like since I joined in 1997.
I'm happy with the Tory party as it is now, I mean, if I didn't leave when we were led by IDS and his curious brand of social conservatism and eye watering unpopularity, I'm not going to leave now.
Once we get the blasted in/out referendum, there'll be peace in our time, as the perpetual fault line over Europe, will be fixed (I hope)
Although Scrapheap and I, have made plans to set up a new party, The Dry but not obsessed by the gays and Europe Tory Party should the need arise.
Patrons of this new party will be Sir John Major, Kenneth Clarke, Michael Heseltine and Jacob Rees-Mogg
Rees-Mogg would make a pretty good PM I reckon actually, but he could never get in due to class prejudice
I really like him but he would be instantly hated by many because of the way he speaks. Either him or Dan Hannan would make excellent leaders in my opinion.
Michael Heseltine and Kenneth Clarke were the prime reasons I joined the Tory party.
So why haven't you left?
I think you may be a similar age to me. I never really understood the hatred towards the Tories when I was growing up in the 90s. Mind you I came from a Tory voting family and only really knew Major, Heseltine and Clarke. Obviously there was the sleazy stuff and then I learnt more about the 80s and what went on. The realisation from about 2002 onwards that the Press was overwhelmingly Tory and the Blair love - in was just a blip has taken some getting used to.
I'm a socially liberal, fiscal conservative, the Tory party has managed to tick most of boxes I like since I joined in 1997.
I'm happy with the Tory party as it is now, I mean, if I didn't leave when we were led by IDS and his curious brand of social conservatism and eye watering unpopularity, I'm not going to leave now.
Once we get the blasted in/out referendum, there'll be peace in our time, as the perpetual fault line over Europe, will be fixed (I hope)
Although Scrapheap and I, have made plans to set up a new party, The Dry but not obsessed by the gays and Europe Tory Party should the need arise.
Patrons of this new party will be Sir John Major, Kenneth Clarke, Michael Heseltine and Jacob Rees-Mogg
Rees-Mogg would make a pretty good PM I reckon actually, but he could never get in due to class prejudice
This clinched it for me why JRM should be our next PM
Michael Heseltine and Kenneth Clarke were the prime reasons I joined the Tory party.
So why haven't you left?
I think you may be a similar age to me. I never really understood the hatred towards the Tories when I was growing up in the 90s. Mind you I came from a Tory voting family and only really knew Major, Heseltine and Clarke. Obviously there was the sleazy stuff and then I learnt more about the 80s and what went on. The realisation from about 2002 onwards that the Press was overwhelmingly Tory and the Blair love - in was just a blip has taken some getting used to.
I'm a socially liberal, fiscal conservative, the Tory party has managed to tick most of boxes I like since I joined in 1997.
I'm happy with the Tory party as it is now, I mean, if I didn't leave when we were led by IDS and his curious brand of social conservatism and eye watering unpopularity, I'm not going to leave now.
Once we get the blasted in/out referendum, there'll be peace in our time, as the perpetual fault line over Europe, will be fixed (I hope)
Although Scrapheap and I, have made plans to set up a new party, The Dry but not obsessed by the gays and Europe Tory Party should the need arise.
Patrons of this new party will be Sir John Major, Kenneth Clarke, Michael Heseltine and Jacob Rees-Mogg
What's your opinion on the Tories' welfare policies?
Michael Heseltine and Kenneth Clarke were the prime reasons I joined the Tory party.
So why haven't you left?
I think you may be a similar age to me. I never really understood the hatred towards the Tories when I was growing up in the 90s. Mind you I came from a Tory voting family and only really knew Major, Heseltine and Clarke. Obviously there was the sleazy stuff and then I learnt more about the 80s and what went on. The realisation from about 2002 onwards that the Press was overwhelmingly Tory and the Blair love - in was just a blip has taken some getting used to.
I'm a socially liberal, fiscal conservative, the Tory party has managed to tick most of boxes I like since I joined in 1997.
I'm happy with the Tory party as it is now, I mean, if I didn't leave when we were led by IDS and his curious brand of social conservatism and eye watering unpopularity, I'm not going to leave now.
Once we get the blasted in/out referendum, there'll be peace in our time, as the perpetual fault line over Europe, will be fixed (I hope)
Although Scrapheap and I, have made plans to set up a new party, The Dry but not obsessed by the gays and Europe Tory Party should the need arise.
Patrons of this new party will be Sir John Major, Kenneth Clarke, Michael Heseltine and Jacob Rees-Mogg
Rees-Mogg would make a pretty good PM I reckon actually, but he could never get in due to class prejudice
This clinched it for me why JRM should be our next PM
Michael Heseltine and Kenneth Clarke were the prime reasons I joined the Tory party.
So why haven't you left?
I think you may be a similar age to me. I never really understood the hatred towards the Tories when I was growing up in the 90s. Mind you I came from a Tory voting family and only really knew Major, Heseltine and Clarke. Obviously there was the sleazy stuff and then I learnt more about the 80s and what went on. The realisation from about 2002 onwards that the Press was overwhelmingly Tory and the Blair love - in was just a blip has taken some getting used to.
I'm a socially liberal, fiscal conservative, the Tory party has managed to tick most of boxes I like since I joined in 1997.
I'm happy with the Tory party as it is now, I mean, if I didn't leave when we were led by IDS and his curious brand of social conservatism and eye watering unpopularity, I'm not going to leave now.
Once we get the blasted in/out referendum, there'll be peace in our time, as the perpetual fault line over Europe, will be fixed (I hope)
Although Scrapheap and I, have made plans to set up a new party, The Dry but not obsessed by the gays and Europe Tory Party should the need arise.
Patrons of this new party will be Sir John Major, Kenneth Clarke, Michael Heseltine and Jacob Rees-Mogg
What's your opinion on the Tories' welfare policies?
My opinions on welfare are coloured by the fact that a dear friend of mine works at a job centre plus.
I'm not a fan of a few things. I'd axe quite a few perks for those well off.
I think IDS' motives are noble even if the policies seem harsh.
I used spend one night a week helping the families of prisoners deal with their incarceration.
I was shocked by how many had been on long term benefits and how benefits in a lot of circumstances makes people and families a lot better off than being in work.
Michael Heseltine and Kenneth Clarke were the prime reasons I joined the Tory party.
So why haven't you left?
I think you may be a similar age to me. I never really understood the hatred towards the Tories when I was growing up in the 90s. Mind you I came from a Tory voting family and only really knew Major, Heseltine and Clarke. Obviously there was the sleazy stuff and then I learnt more about the 80s and what went on. The realisation from about 2002 onwards that the Press was overwhelmingly Tory and the Blair love - in was just a blip has taken some getting used to.
I'm a socially liberal, fiscal conservative, the Tory party has managed to tick most of boxes I like since I joined in 1997.
I'm happy with the Tory party as it is now, I mean, if I didn't leave when we were led by IDS and his curious brand of social conservatism and eye watering unpopularity, I'm not going to leave now.
Once we get the blasted in/out referendum, there'll be peace in our time, as the perpetual fault line over Europe, will be fixed (I hope)
Although Scrapheap and I, have made plans to set up a new party, The Dry but not obsessed by the gays and Europe Tory Party should the need arise.
Patrons of this new party will be Sir John Major, Kenneth Clarke, Michael Heseltine and Jacob Rees-Mogg
What's your opinion on the Tories' welfare policies?
My opinions on welfare are coloured by the fact that a dear friend of mine works at a job centre plus.
I'm not a fan of a few things. I'd axe quite a few perks for those well off.
I think IDS' motives are noble even if the policies seem harsh.
I used spend one night a week helping the families of prisoners deal with their incarceration.
I was shocked by how many had been on long term benefits and how benefits in a lot of circumstances makes people and families a lot better off than being in work.
TSE JSA is about 1/4 of the minimum wage and you can claim housing benefit if you are on a low wage as well as out of work. The problem probably comes from claiming large amounts of child benefit if you have lots of children
“I was going to vote SNP, but apparently that’s a vote for the Tories and if they win then they’ll be puppets dancing on UKIP’s strings, so that’s out.
“So I thought I’d vote Green, but that weakens the Lib Dem vote, leaving the Democratic Unionists as Westminster kingmakers and making the late Ian Paisley our new patron saint.
“Then I was told that if I vote UKIP, the Tories will lose and Labour will get in with no choice but to follow the SNP’s radical taxes-pay-for-public-services agenda, which is what I originally wanted.
If someone is arrested and bailed in England,the next appearance would usually be what we call a "pleading diet". If someone is pleading not guilty, can they specify a reason for the plea?
15.2. In the magistrates' court, the accused is not obliged to serve a defence statement but may choose to do so, in which case the statutory provisions apply. However, it is a mandatory requirement for the accused to provide details of his or her witnesses
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Of course the head bangers will think differently but Cameron is trying to win an election - not please them.
No surprise Heseltine pops up so near the GE.
Count 315
Cons (Avg) 284.62
Lab (Avg) 280.64
Lib Dem (Avg) 27.22
UKIP (Avg) 4.38
Green (Avg) 1.02
SNP (Avg) 33.07
But the idea that HSBC are doing a special favour loaning £250m, on the basis of a personal guarantee by the Barclay brothers (estimated wealth: £6bn, according to the Sunday Times Rich List of 2014), is ridiculous. Can you think of any major bank in the Western world which wouldn't lend £250m on such a basis?
Its slightly less dire than the Jeremy Kyle show, but there's not much in it.
It's sort of like the double birthday situation. Ask 23 people in a room their date of birth (not year) and the odds are 50-50 that two people will have the same birthday.
I'm going to end up dreaming about the Krankies swinging, AGAIN
I've heard that said a number of times so I guess it must be true true ..... difficult to get one's head around though!
Night all. Isam let me know if I'm around for that bet but sounds like you're not keenie beanie on it.
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.krankies.com/communities/5/004/005/418/385/images/4534550755_288x373.png&imgrefurl=http://www.krankies.com/&h=256&w=197&tbnid=1JqngjVtarctwM:&zoom=1&tbnh=186&tbnw=143&usg=__VHpd-VgfiUc_eATGjrONyA3f9vI=&docid=1aY6-EgJFpGwxM&itg=1&ved=0CH0Qyjc&ei=jGvmVLimLsXtaPuZgJgB
It must be worrying.
Oh well I think you were trying it on, we will just stick to our bet on ukip seats x 4 beating or equalling lib Dems
Dont Panic PB Tories always right
As I say there are things you can do to reduce sampling error, but to account for all other sorts of error and reduce it further, seems like a big ask.
If any of you ever get to Madrid and want to eat wold class seafood, head for Perlora, c/Magdalena 40. It is de puta madre.
Plaid Cymru GAIN Hengoed (Carmarthenshire) from Labour.
I am off to bed to pretend mrs BJ is Janette Tough
Who could possibly have predicted that..
Oh, right.
Do you have the details of the donation Scott, it appears to be behind a pay wall?
Who could possibly have predicted that..
Oh, right.
Quite a high risk strategy by PwC going forward, I would have thought.
Why ?
Seems like a decent bet for cushty Gov't contracts going forward
I think you may be a similar age to me. I never really understood the hatred towards the Tories when I was growing up in the 90s. Mind you I came from a Tory voting family and only really knew Major, Heseltine and Clarke. Obviously there was the sleazy stuff and then I learnt more about the 80s and what went on. The realisation from about 2002 onwards that the Press was overwhelmingly Tory and the Blair love - in was just a blip has taken some getting used to.
I would think it was. The smaller parties like UKIP and the Greens could rightly complain about PwC giving what they claim is a non-political donation to the "big three", and not giving them equal access.
A donation in kind? I wonder what that entailed?
I'm happy with the Tory party as it is now, I mean, if I didn't leave when we were led by IDS and his curious brand of social conservatism and eye watering unpopularity, I'm not going to leave now.
Once we get the blasted in/out referendum, there'll be peace in our time, as the perpetual fault line over Europe, will be fixed (I hope)
Although Scrapheap and I, have made plans to set up a new party, The Dry but not obsessed by the gays and Europe Tory Party should the need arise.
Patrons of this new party will be Sir John Major, Kenneth Clarke, Michael Heseltine and Jacob Rees-Mogg
Seems like a decent bet for cushty Gov't contracts going forward
...... or not as the case may be!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/11213086/Rochester-and-Strood-by-election-Conservative-Jacob-Rees-Mogg-and-son-take-the-fight-to-Ukip.html
Since they claim it is a non party donation, you had best take it up with the relevant parties and their lawyers.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/feb/19/constitutional-reform-britain-wales-scotland-election#comment-47809225
'I have just eaten one of the greatest meals of my life'
Very impressive combined with your stay at the Ritz and your BA Gold card.
I'm not a fan of a few things. I'd axe quite a few perks for those well off.
I think IDS' motives are noble even if the policies seem harsh.
I used spend one night a week helping the families of prisoners deal with their incarceration.
I was shocked by how many had been on long term benefits and how benefits in a lot of circumstances makes people and families a lot better off than being in work.
Labour = Liverpool
Tories = Besiktas
Labour = Joe Dolce
Dave believes in "The Big Society", the problem is he thought it referred to the Black and White Ball.
The PB Tories always learn
(or was it the other way round???)
PB Tories always learn to get off the train before the last stop
“I was going to vote SNP, but apparently that’s a vote for the Tories and if they win then they’ll be puppets dancing on UKIP’s strings, so that’s out.
“So I thought I’d vote Green, but that weakens the Lib Dem vote, leaving the Democratic Unionists as Westminster kingmakers and making the late Ian Paisley our new patron saint.
“Then I was told that if I vote UKIP, the Tories will lose and Labour will get in with no choice but to follow the SNP’s radical taxes-pay-for-public-services agenda, which is what I originally wanted.
“But I can’t shake this nagging suspicion that if I vote UKIP, I might actually end up voting UKIP.”
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/politics-headlines/a-vote-for-the-snp-is-a-vote-for-the-lib-dems-is-a-vote-for-the-tories-is-a-vote-for-ukip-2015021295288
"PB Tories always learn to get off the train before the last stop "
Only because they are to stingy to buy condoms.......
Oh, it wasn't a euphemism?
*blushes*
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/20/us/some-chris-christie-supporters-now-turn-their-backs.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=first-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0
If someone is pleading not guilty, can they specify a reason for the plea?
Tories Laetitia Dean and Paul Medford
UKIPHOBIA
http://tinyurl.com/luyausu