"On the basis of the projections, the party is on course to remain competitive in seats that would fall if there was landslide against the Lib Dems, such as Cheltenham, St Ives, Cardiff Central, Eastbourne, Solihull, Cheadle, Leeds North East, Cambridge and Bermondsey. The rise in the Lib Dem vote in these seats is almost entirely undetected in national polls where the party is becalmed, it claims."
This selective release of private polling looks like an attempt to gee up activists in those seats to me.
"I just think that some UKIP supporters will be scared by the thought of Ed and Ed and will be persuaded to vote tory as a result for the good of the country."
Many Conservative supporters are investing a great deal in that hope.
As hopes go, it's not an unreasonable one. It may well be fulfilled. But sensible supporters like yourself recognise that it is a hope, and no more.
Naturally I have my own hopes, and sometimes I bet on them, but I do like to get decent odds. Not sure what odds I'd want on the outcome you envisage here, but I'm sure it's no certainty.
Peter, I think the best hope for the Conservatives is not Ukip voters returning home (although any unwind should be helpful), but Labour voters staying at home. The polling does not give much reason to believe that they will, save inasmuch as it signals a distinct lack of enthusiasm for Labour's leadership, doubt over its economic policies and support concentrated in demographics which historically have been less inclined to vote. But in terms of certainty to vote Labour's numbers are not appreciably worse (and in some cases slightly better) than current Conservative supporters. Nevertheless, if the Tories are to win the election (whatever winning looks like) it seems likely to be a result of the Labour vote staying at home (or lodging a protest). So that's where I'd be concentrating my prayers.
Survation not only are UKIP's in house pollsters, confirmation they poll for the Lib Dems as well
...
The party strategists’ decision selectively to share the private polling conducted by Survation is in part an attempt to show strong local performance will prevent a serious wipeout despite dire national polls.
Are you allowed to selectively share private poling? I thought it was all or nothing
Survation not only are UKIP's in house pollsters, confirmation they poll for the Lib Dems as well
...
The party strategists’ decision selectively to share the private polling conducted by Survation is in part an attempt to show strong local performance will prevent a serious wipeout despite dire national polls.
Are you allowed to selectively share private poling? I thought it was all or nothing
As per the Oakeshot farrago last year, I think they will have to publish the polls as per BPC rules.
Presumably False Flag believes that the RAF was scrambled to intercept rebel or even Ukranian planes. Certainly not Russian ones. They never stray beyond their own air space!
International airspace is international. Free to fly there and have done so a couple of times a month for years. Clear case of war propaganda that suddenly the press is reporting it.
He is a very dangerous man.
It's a plan he is not aware of. What scares me about the Western propaganda is not that it is so voluminously produced but that the people dispensing it believe it.
You don't believe there were Russian Bear long range bombers off the Cornish coast yesterday?
Drop the jingo for a moment, "Russian Bear long range bombers" HA. Made in the 1950's and using propellers those things can be shot with WW2 anti-aircraft defences.
No they weren't, they first flew in 1952 as did the B-52, which the US intends to keep operational into the 2040s, but existing aircraft all date from the 1980s-90s. I have given up trying to understand what other points you are trying to make but if they aren't long range bombers then what, in your view, are they?
The B-52's are more modern than those (1952 American technology was far ahead than the 1952 Soviet one), but they are in use and kept in use by America because they are fighting wars with some third world dictatorships that don't have an airforce anyway. Also they are way cheaper to use that modern bombers.
That is the point though:"but they are in use and kept in use because they are fighting wars with some third world dictatorships that don't have an airforce anyway."
The russian flying junk is as terrifying to a country that has an aiforce, as a North Korean "please take notice of the mighty dear leader, pleaaaase" ultimatum to America.
They are still long-range bombers.
"The modern Estonian Air Force has been rebuilding the destroyed military infrastructure since 1994 when the last Russian Army units left Estonia. Most of the funds were directed to the Ämari military airfield which was completed in 2011. Due to the lack of modern and developed military aviation infrastructure the Estonian Air Force development has been very slow. All aircraft are unarmed." WP
Presumably False Flag believes that the RAF was scrambled to intercept rebel or even Ukranian planes. Certainly not Russian ones. They never stray beyond their own air space!
Presumably False Flag believes that the RAF was scrambled to intercept rebel or even Ukranian planes. Certainly not Russian ones. They never stray beyond their own air space!
International airspace is international. Free to fly there and have done so a couple of times a month for years. Clear case of war propaganda that suddenly the press is reporting it.
Putin has a plan.
Ukraine, Crimea, land link to Crimea, Black sea ports and coastline, the area of Ukraine with most shale oil and gas. Job just about done. International reaction tested.
Baltic is next for a Putin test. NATO, EU, what will they do. How scared and impotent are they?
Popular nationalism at home.
He is a very dangerous man.
It's a plan he is not aware of. What scares me about the Western propaganda is not that it is so voluminously produced but that the people dispensing it believe it.
You don't believe there were Russian Bear long range bombers off the Cornish coast yesterday?
Drop the jingo for a moment, "Russian Bear long range bombers" HA. Made in the 1950's and using propellers those things can be shot with WW2 anti-aircraft defences.
What's jingoistic about pointing out uncomfortable truths about Russian military movements? They may well be old aircraft, but so was Nimrod. These are still long-range strategic weapons platforms that carry cruise missiles, or even nuclear weapons.
Apologists for Putin's aggressive military provocations like you really need a better response than to accuse people who call him out on it as being jingoistic.
They are flying in international airspace and have been making these flights several times a month for years, hence not news.
They stopped making them for 15 years. Starting them again is news. But its not that we cannot cope. And we can all see - well those with eyes - where Putin comes from.
@Falseflag - seeing as you haven't responded to any of my points or questions, but just restated what you said earlier, I'll conclude you haven't got any argument that holds water. Thanks.
Anyone think England has a prayer against NZ tonight?
Thought not.
Its a tough start for them, that's for sure.
I do. I think the New Zealand wickets will suit Anderson and Broad
I fear Broad and Finn are likely to suit McCullum and Williamson rather too well and Boult will shine as well. They really could have done with one of the minnows to get some vestige of confidence going.
Anyone think England has a prayer against NZ tonight?
Thought not.
Its a tough start for them, that's for sure.
I do. I think the New Zealand wickets will suit Anderson and Broad
I fear Broad and Finn are likely to suit McCullum and Williamson rather too well and Boult will shine as well. They really could have done with one of the minnows to get some vestige of confidence going.
Survation not only are UKIP's in house pollsters, confirmation they poll for the Lib Dems as well
...
The party strategists’ decision selectively to share the private polling conducted by Survation is in part an attempt to show strong local performance will prevent a serious wipeout despite dire national polls.
Are you allowed to selectively share private poling? I thought it was all or nothing
A propos of nothing in particular:
@LordAshcroft: Treat with caution "internal polling" in marginal seats as any cost now counts towards the constituency limits so none done #comfortpolling
"I just think that some UKIP supporters will be scared by the thought of Ed and Ed and will be persuaded to vote tory as a result for the good of the country."
Many Conservative supporters are investing a great deal in that hope.
As hopes go, it's not an unreasonable one. It may well be fulfilled. But sensible supporters like yourself recognise that it is a hope, and no more.
Naturally I have my own hopes, and sometimes I bet on them, but I do like to get decent odds. Not sure what odds I'd want on the outcome you envisage here, but I'm sure it's no certainty.
I agree with every word of that.
But if the tories are losing thousands of votes in seats like those in Ld A's samples today and are still polling at about 36% by the election by definition they are doing a lot better in some areas than they did the last time.
I still think Labour largest party, they just have too many advantages, but a more efficient Tory vote is their best bet of holding on.
Presumably False Flag believes that the RAF was scrambled to intercept rebel or even Ukranian planes. Certainly not Russian ones. They never stray beyond their own air space!
International airspace is international. Free to fly there and have done so a couple of times a month for years. Clear case of war propaganda that suddenly the press is reporting it.
Putin has a plan.
Ukraine, Crimea, land link to Crimea, Black sea ports and coastline, the area of Ukraine with most shale oil and gas. Job just about done. International reaction tested.
Baltic is next for a Putin test. NATO, EU, what will they do. How scared and impotent are they?
Popular nationalism at home.
He is a very dangerous man.
It's a plan he is not aware of. What scares me about the Western propaganda is not that it is so voluminously produced but that the people dispensing it believe it.
"its a plan he is not aware of"
I knew you were a sock puppet for the regime but I never knew you actually knew him :-)
Presumably False Flag believes that the RAF was scrambled to intercept rebel or even Ukranian planes. Certainly not Russian ones. They never stray beyond their own air space!
International airspace is international. Free to fly there and have done so a couple of times a month for years. Clear case of war propaganda that suddenly the press is reporting it.
Putin has a plan.
Ukraine, Crimea, land link to Crimea, Black sea ports and coastline, the area of Ukraine with most shale oil and gas. Job just about done. International reaction tested.
Baltic is next for a Putin test. NATO, EU, what will they do. How scared and impotent are they?
Popular nationalism at home.
He is a very dangerous man.
It's a plan he is not aware of. What scares me about the Western propaganda is not that it is so voluminously produced but that the people dispensing it believe it.
You don't believe there were Russian Bear long range bombers off the Cornish coast yesterday?
Drop the jingo for a moment, "Russian Bear long range bombers" HA. Made in the 1950's and using propellers those things can be shot with WW2 anti-aircraft defences.
What's jingoistic about pointing out uncomfortable truths about Russian military movements? They may well be old aircraft, but so was Nimrod. These are still long-range strategic weapons platforms that carry cruise missiles, or even nuclear weapons.
Apologists for Putin's aggressive military provocations like you really need a better response than to accuse people who call him out on it as being jingoistic.
If the russians are going to use nuclear weapons on Britain I assure you it will be with ICBMs not with silly overgrown ceessnas that belong to a museum.
I repeat the charge, you are running scared of junk. BOOOO.
The Bears are likely practising submarine hunting.
And NATO aircraft are routinely skirting Russian airspace. One got into a bit of trouble last year.
@LordAshcroft: Treat with caution "internal polling" in marginal seats as any cost now counts towards the constituency limits so none done #comfortpolling
I believe quite a lot was done just before the constituency limits kicked in, though.
Meanwhile, in another part of Europe, President Hollande continues to give us his step-by-step masterclass in what a Miliband government would look like.
We've had the 'lefty posturing' stage, and the 'soak the rich until they leave' stage. and the 'idiotic populist anti-business' stage, and the 'economy is a disaster area and unemployment is catastrophic' stage.
Now we are moving, finally, into the 'Sacré Bleu, the Right were correct all along, the only way out of this mess is Thatcherism, how do we disguise it?' stage:
Meanwhile, in another part of Europe, President Hollande continues to give us his step-by-step masterclass in what a Miliband government would look like.
We've had the 'lefty posturing' stage, and the 'soak the rich until they leave' stage. and the 'idiotic populist anti-business' stage, and the 'economy is a disaster area and unemployment is catastrophic' stage.
Now we are moving, finally, into the 'Blimey, the Right were correct all along, the only way out of this mess is Thatcherism, how do we disguise it?' stage:
Survation not only are UKIP's in house pollsters, confirmation they poll for the Lib Dems as well
...
The party strategists’ decision selectively to share the private polling conducted by Survation is in part an attempt to show strong local performance will prevent a serious wipeout despite dire national polls.
Are you allowed to selectively share private poling? I thought it was all or nothing
A propos of nothing in particular:
@LordAshcroft: Treat with caution "internal polling" in marginal seats as any cost now counts towards the constituency limits so none done #comfortpolling
A lot of this polling was done a few months ago, so I am told, so won't count towards election spending.
I'm not sure if this story will turn out to be quite true. Well not true in the sense of the headlines. The broomsticks were allegedly stuck onto a Mobile HQ vehicle which is allegedly designed/tasked not to be armed. This might turn out to be a joke or a sarcastic point being made that it should have a machine gun as standard. How safe is it from IEDs is perhaps more to the point.
Meanwhile, in another part of Europe, President Hollande continues to give us his step-by-step masterclass in what a Miliband government would look like.
We've had the 'lefty posturing' stage, and the 'soak the rich until they leave' stage. and the 'idiotic populist anti-business' stage, and the 'economy is a disaster area and unemployment is catastrophic' stage.
Now we are moving, finally, into the 'Blimey, the Right were correct all along, the only way out of this mess is Thatcherism, how do we disguise it?' stage:
Survation not only are UKIP's in house pollsters, confirmation they poll for the Lib Dems as well
...
The party strategists’ decision selectively to share the private polling conducted by Survation is in part an attempt to show strong local performance will prevent a serious wipeout despite dire national polls.
Are you allowed to selectively share private poling? I thought it was all or nothing
A propos of nothing in particular:
@LordAshcroft: Treat with caution "internal polling" in marginal seats as any cost now counts towards the constituency limits so none done #comfortpolling
Presumably False Flag believes that the RAF was scrambled to intercept rebel or even Ukranian planes. Certainly not Russian ones. They never stray beyond their own air space!
International airspace is international. Free to fly there and have done so a couple of times a month for years. Clear case of war propaganda that suddenly the press is reporting it.
Putin has a plan.
Ukraine, Crimea, land link to Crimea, Black sea ports and coastline, the area of Ukraine with most shale oil and gas. Job just about done. International reaction tested.
Baltic is next for a Putin test. NATO, EU, what will they do. How scared and impotent are they?
Popular nationalism at home.
He is a very dangerous man.
If push comes to shove, which it never will because he'll salami slice, I don't think Putin believes the West has the stomach or resolve to militarily defend the Baltic States.
What would NATO do if a 'pro-Russian' rebellion 'broke out' in part of Lithunia or Estonia with a Russian majority population. I suspect more sanctions, and a small naval fleet would position itself off Riga doing flying displays, and we might supply arms to those Baltic states. But that's it.
Poland is different. First because of history, no one would stand for any shenanigans there, second there are minimal Russian minorities there, and third Poland has fully learnt the lessons of not relying on others for its defence and will arm itself and fight back if pushed.
If you think the average Brit will think it OK to invade his/her stag/hen party destination of choice then I think you are in for a shock. It will be a shock for the locals to change their Euros for Roubles.
Weirdly, that is not quite the way the BBC are reporting it.
It has to be admitted that the Parti Socialiste's embracing of Thatcherism is not yet entirely whole-hearted. Manuel Valls is clearly sane, but the reforms so far are pretty piddling, and he had trouble getting even those agreed.
Meanwhile, in another part of Europe, President Hollande continues to give us his step-by-step masterclass in what a Miliband government would look like.
We've had the 'lefty posturing' stage, and the 'soak the rich until they leave' stage. and the 'idiotic populist anti-business' stage, and the 'economy is a disaster area and unemployment is catastrophic' stage.
Now we are moving, finally, into the 'Blimey, the Right were correct all along, the only way out of this mess is Thatcherism, how do we disguise it?' stage:
"On the basis of the projections, the party is on course to remain competitive in seats that would fall if there was landslide against the Lib Dems, such as Cheltenham, St Ives, Cardiff Central, Eastbourne, Solihull, Cheadle, Leeds North East, Cambridge and Bermondsey. The rise in the Lib Dem vote in these seats is almost entirely undetected in national polls where the party is becalmed, it claims."
This selective release of private polling looks like an attempt to gee up activists in those seats to me.
Ashcroft's constituency polling already tells us that the Lib Dems "remain competitive" in most of those.
The owners of the Daily Telegraph secured a £250m loan from HSBC for a struggling corner of their business empire shortly before the newspaper’s reporters were allegedly “discouraged” from running articles critical of the bank, the Guardian has learned.
Here we go again, Proverbs 26:11 applies.
But what's this, just three paragraphs later in the very same Guardian smear-fest?
The documents show that Sir David and Sir Frederick Barclay had to formally give a personal financial guarantee as additional security for the loan facility.
Now, don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of the Telegraph or the Barclay Brothers, still less Yodel, whose delivery record to Nabavi Towers does not, shall we say, exactly inspire confidence. But the idea that a loan of £250m, secured on Yodel's business and with a personal guarantee by the mega-rich Barclay brothers, is some kind of reason for the Telegraph to be soft on HSBC is an insult to conspiracy theorists.
Presumably False Flag believes that the RAF was scrambled to intercept rebel or even Ukranian planes. Certainly not Russian ones. They never stray beyond their own air space!
International airspace is international. Free to fly there and have done so a couple of times a month for years. Clear case of war propaganda that suddenly the press is reporting it.
Putin has a plan.
Ukraine, Crimea, land link to Crimea, Black sea ports and coastline, the area of Ukraine with most shale oil and gas. Job just about done. International reaction tested.
Baltic is next for a Putin test. NATO, EU, what will they do. How scared and impotent are they?
Popular nationalism at home.
He is a very dangerous man.
It's a plan he is not aware of. What scares me about the Western propaganda is not that it is so voluminously produced but that the people dispensing it believe it.
You don't believe there were Russian Bear long range bombers off the Cornish coast yesterday?
Drop the jingo for a moment, "Russian Bear long range bombers" HA. Made in the 1950's and using propellers those things can be shot with WW2 anti-aircraft defences.
The russian flying junk is as terrifying to a country that has an aiforce, as a North Korean "please take notice of the mighty dear leader, pleaaaase" ultimatum to America.
There's a distinct possibility that the bears are configured for elint collection. The intent being to force air defence radars to become active by not using transponders and forcing the RAF to skin paint them thereby revealing a great deal of intelligence about NATO radar technology.
"On the basis of the projections, the party is on course to remain competitive in seats that would fall if there was landslide against the Lib Dems, such as Cheltenham, St Ives, Cardiff Central, Eastbourne, Solihull, Cheadle, Leeds North East, Cambridge and Bermondsey. The rise in the Lib Dem vote in these seats is almost entirely undetected in national polls where the party is becalmed, it claims."
This selective release of private polling looks like an attempt to gee up activists in those seats to me.
Jeepers. "Remain competitive" sounds like they're behind. If that's meant to gee em up its blimmin bleak stuff.
"On the basis of the projections, the party is on course to remain competitive in seats that would fall if there was landslide against the Lib Dems, such as Cheltenham, St Ives, Cardiff Central, Eastbourne, Solihull, Cheadle, Leeds North East, Cambridge and Bermondsey. The rise in the Lib Dem vote in these seats is almost entirely undetected in national polls where the party is becalmed, it claims."
This selective release of private polling looks like an attempt to gee up activists in those seats to me.
Jeepers. "Remain competitive" sounds like they're behind. If that's meant to gee em up its blimmin bleak stuff.
I'm intrigued by the "rise in the Lib Dem vote" that is alluded to. Surely just an odd turn of phrase, and not an actual rise?
If they have to release all 100 polls, I look forward to seeing what the party has in Watford and Ashfield.
"On the basis of the projections, the party is on course to remain competitive in seats that would fall if there was landslide against the Lib Dems, such as Cheltenham, St Ives, Cardiff Central, Eastbourne, Solihull, Cheadle, Leeds North East, Cambridge and Bermondsey. The rise in the Lib Dem vote in these seats is almost entirely undetected in national polls where the party is becalmed, it claims."
This selective release of private polling looks like an attempt to gee up activists in those seats to me.
Jeepers. "Remain competitive" sounds like they're behind. If that's meant to gee em up its blimmin bleak stuff.
Yep . And you're not getting much of that sort of positivity North of the border.
"On the basis of the projections, the party is on course to remain competitive in seats that would fall if there was landslide against the Lib Dems, such as Cheltenham, St Ives, Cardiff Central, Eastbourne, Solihull, Cheadle, Leeds North East, Cambridge and Bermondsey. The rise in the Lib Dem vote in these seats is almost entirely undetected in national polls where the party is becalmed, it claims."
This selective release of private polling looks like an attempt to gee up activists in those seats to me.
Jeepers. "Remain competitive" sounds like they're behind. If that's meant to gee em up its blimmin bleak stuff.
Indeed. It's a bizarre phrase - I could easily see someone using it to describe anything up to 10% behind.
FFS thankfully Blair no longer has his finger on our nuclear button
Up until a few weeks ago I would have agreed with you. However after a couple of sessions with a specialist who had the data, foresight, scenarios and predictions to make a compelling case that Putin is as big a threat as ISIS. Indeed, I would say bigger threat, ISIS will hopefully be hollowed out to a weak shell by October
Presumably False Flag believes that the RAF was scrambled to intercept rebel or even Ukranian planes. Certainly not Russian ones. They never stray beyond their own air space!
International airspace is international. Free to fly there and have done so a couple of times a month for years. Clear case of war propaganda that suddenly the press is reporting it.
Putin has a plan.
Ukraine, Crimea, land link to Crimea, Black sea ports and coastline, the area of Ukraine with most shale oil and gas. Job just about done. International reaction tested.
Baltic is next for a Putin test. NATO, EU, what will they do. How scared and impotent are they?
Popular nationalism at home.
He is a very dangerous man.
It's a plan he is not aware of. What scares me about the Western propaganda is not that it is so voluminously produced but that the people dispensing it believe it.
You don't believe there were Russian Bear long range bombers off the Cornish coast yesterday?
Drop the jingo for a moment, "Russian Bear long range bombers" HA. Made in the 1950's and using propellers those things can be shot with WW2 anti-aircraft defences.
The russian flying junk is as terrifying to a country that has an aiforce, as a North Korean "please take notice of the mighty dear leader, pleaaaase" ultimatum to America.
There's a distinct possibility that the bears are configured for elint collection. The intent being to force air defence radars to become active by not using transponders and forcing the RAF to skin paint them thereby revealing a great deal of intelligence about NATO radar technology.
Eh? The Air Defence radars are always active. Otherwise an aggressor could simply turn off their transponder and appear anywhere by surprise.
The Daily Telegraph has been politically conservative in modern times. The personal links between the paper's editors and the leadership of the Conservative Party, along with the paper's generally right wing stance and influence over Conservative activists, have resulted in the paper commonly being referred to, especially in Private Eye, as the Torygraph.
Presumably False Flag believes that the RAF was scrambled to intercept rebel or even Ukranian planes. Certainly not Russian ones. They never stray beyond their own air space!
International airspace is international. Free to fly there and have done so a couple of times a month for years. Clear case of war propaganda that suddenly the press is reporting it.
Putin has a plan.
Ukraine, Crimea, land link to Crimea, Black sea ports and coastline, the area of Ukraine with most shale oil and gas. Job just about done. International reaction tested.
Baltic is next for a Putin test. NATO, EU, what will they do. How scared and impotent are they?
Popular nationalism at home.
He is a very dangerous man.
It's a plan he is not aware of. What scares me about the Western propaganda is not that it is so voluminously produced but that the people dispensing it believe it.
You don't believe there were Russian Bear long range bombers off the Cornish coast yesterday?
Drop the jingo for a moment, "Russian Bear long range bombers" HA. Made in the 1950's and using propellers those things can be shot with WW2 anti-aircraft defences.
The russian flying junk is as terrifying to a country that has an aiforce, as a North Korean "please take notice of the mighty dear leader, pleaaaase" ultimatum to America.
There's a distinct possibility that the bears are configured for elint collection. The intent being to force air defence radars to become active by not using transponders and forcing the RAF to skin paint them thereby revealing a great deal of intelligence about NATO radar technology.
Eh? The Air Defence radars are always active.
Air defence radars are multi mode, the intent is to force as many of those modes to be activated to allow them to be analysed. Search radars are at the very bottom of the technical and capabilities end of the spectrum and they are the ones that are always on.
The Daily Telegraph has been politically conservative in modern times. The personal links between the paper's editors and the leadership of the Conservative Party, along with the paper's generally right wing stance and influence over Conservative activists, have resulted in the paper commonly being referred to, especially in Private Eye, as the Torygraph.
The Berrys (Camrose) were married into the Conservative Party.
Black (who bought it in, I think, 84) was an ideological soulmate of Thatcher
It's only after the boys from Brecqhou got involved that it all began to go downhill
The Daily Telegraph has been politically conservative in modern times. The personal links between the paper's editors and the leadership of the Conservative Party, along with the paper's generally right wing stance and influence over Conservative activists, have resulted in the paper commonly being referred to, especially in Private Eye, as the Torygraph.
The Berrys (Harmsworth) were married into the Conservative Party.
Black (who bought it in, I think, 84) was an ideological soulmate of Thatcher
It's only after the boys from Brecqhou got involved that it all began to go downhill
I cant remember the last time I saw anyone carrying the Telegraph but then again, I don't commute.
The owners of the Daily Telegraph secured a £250m loan from HSBC for a struggling corner of their business empire shortly before the newspaper’s reporters were allegedly “discouraged” from running articles critical of the bank, the Guardian has learned.
Here we go again, Proverbs 26:11 applies.
But what's this, just three paragraphs later in the very same Guardian smear-fest?
The documents show that Sir David and Sir Frederick Barclay had to formally give a personal financial guarantee as additional security for the loan facility.
Now, don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of the Telegraph or the Barclay Brothers, still less Yodel, whose delivery record to Nabavi Towers does not, shall we say, exactly inspire confidence. But the idea that a loan of £250m, secured on Yodel's business and with a personal guarantee by the mega-rich Barclay brothers, is some kind of reason for the Telegraph to be soft on HSBC is an insult to conspiracy theorists.
Why ? Have you seen the loan document ? There maybe clauses in there where the bank could call the loan in. Therefore, don't upset them !
The Daily Telegraph has been politically conservative in modern times. The personal links between the paper's editors and the leadership of the Conservative Party, along with the paper's generally right wing stance and influence over Conservative activists, have resulted in the paper commonly being referred to, especially in Private Eye, as the Torygraph.
The Berrys (Harmsworth) were married into the Conservative Party.
Black (who bought it in, I think, 84) was an ideological soulmate of Thatcher
It's only after the boys from Brecqhou got involved that it all began to go downhill
I cant remember the last time I saw anyone carrying the Telegraph but then again, I don't commute.
I used to read it most days. Probably haven't touched it for a decade.
The Daily Telegraph has been politically conservative in modern times. The personal links between the paper's editors and the leadership of the Conservative Party, along with the paper's generally right wing stance and influence over Conservative activists, have resulted in the paper commonly being referred to, especially in Private Eye, as the Torygraph.
The Berrys (Harmsworth) were married into the Conservative Party.
Black (who bought it in, I think, 84) was an ideological soulmate of Thatcher
It's only after the boys from Brecqhou got involved that it all began to go downhill
I cant remember the last time I saw anyone carrying the Telegraph but then again, I don't commute.
I can't remember the last time I saw anyone carrying anything other than free copies of Metro or the Standard, and I do commute. Most thesedays read or listen to a smartphone or pad and don't buy a paper.
The Daily Mail have won the commuter Smartphone/pad battle hands down because they have a free app that downloads the paper before you leave the house automatically so still works when you are out of coverage or in a tunnel etc. Its also now widely read by commuters in the USA and Australia to the extent that they have their own domestic version of the Daily Mail online to download to their smartphones - and of course the free Metro is just a lite version of the Daily Mail.
YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead by one: CON 32%, LAB 33%, LD 9%, UKIP 15%, GRN 6%
Q. How do YG get such little variation? Doesn't make sense unless they poll the same people every day? Should be much more MoE showing surely?
I agree ..... it's quite extraordinary.
They poll over two days, is the poll for 11-12 Feb (for example) a completely new poll, or the "second half" of the 10-11 Feb poll plus a new day's polling for the 12th. If so, it might account for some of the stability.
YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead by one: CON 32%, LAB 33%, LD 9%, UKIP 15%, GRN 6%
Q. How do YG get such little variation? Doesn't make sense unless they poll the same people every day? Should be much more MoE showing surely?
I agree ..... it's quite extraordinary.
They poll over two days, is the poll for 11-12 Feb (for example) a completely new poll, or the "second half" of the 10-11 Feb poll plus a new day's polling for the 12th. If so, it might account for some of the stability.
They used to do a rolling poll didn't they but thought that was then dropped for one offs every day?
The Daily Telegraph has been politically conservative in modern times. The personal links between the paper's editors and the leadership of the Conservative Party, along with the paper's generally right wing stance and influence over Conservative activists, have resulted in the paper commonly being referred to, especially in Private Eye, as the Torygraph.
The Berrys (Harmsworth) were married into the Conservative Party.
Black (who bought it in, I think, 84) was an ideological soulmate of Thatcher
It's only after the boys from Brecqhou got involved that it all began to go downhill
I cant remember the last time I saw anyone carrying the Telegraph but then again, I don't commute.
I used to read it most days. Probably haven't touched it for a decade.
Who wants to prove up Libs and greens combined vs ukip GE vote share?? Any offers??
Yes I'll take that. What odds? You're going on the ukip side I guess? ;-)
You price it and I'll see if I want to bet
You threw the bait ;-) Well evens then I suppose? Me LDs & Greens vote share to equal or beat Ukip vote share. Dicey bet cos I can see something like 7 + 4 vs 12 giving you the win so only bit of fun for a low stake plse. £10? You may hook someone wanting bigger volume.
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This selective release of private polling looks like an attempt to gee up activists in those seats to me.
It is the message that it gives. The reaction it draws.
Russia has to feed the nationalistic jingoism twat Putin has created.
Recovery of military potency and territory are the only ways he can do that.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/telegraph-view/11423912/The-Telegraphs-promise-to-our-readers.html
"The modern Estonian Air Force has been rebuilding the destroyed military infrastructure since 1994 when the last Russian Army units left Estonia. Most of the funds were directed to the Ämari military airfield which was completed in 2011. Due to the lack of modern and developed military aviation infrastructure the Estonian Air Force development has been very slow. All aircraft are unarmed." WP
Just saying.
Thought not.
Its a tough start for them, that's for sure.
Yes, that's a pretty fair assessment, imo.
I'm not.
@LordAshcroft: Treat with caution "internal polling" in marginal seats as any cost now counts towards the constituency limits so none done #comfortpolling
I knew you were a sock puppet for the regime but I never knew you actually knew him :-)
And NATO aircraft are routinely skirting Russian airspace. One got into a bit of trouble last year.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11009182/US-spy-plane-in-Top-Gun-game-of-chicken-over-Russian-air-space-day-after-MH17-shot-down.html
We've had the 'lefty posturing' stage, and the 'soak the rich until they leave' stage. and the 'idiotic populist anti-business' stage, and the 'economy is a disaster area and unemployment is catastrophic' stage.
Now we are moving, finally, into the 'Sacré Bleu, the Right were correct all along, the only way out of this mess is Thatcherism, how do we disguise it?' stage:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-31544437
We'll see tomorrow who is lying.
Oh, you mean the foreign chap? I think the jury is still out on that.
http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2015/01/cambridge/
http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2015/01/cardiff-central/
http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2015/01/solihull/
and all the rest.
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/feb/19/telegraph-250m-loan-hsbc-editorial-changes-yodel
The owners of the Daily Telegraph secured a £250m loan from HSBC for a struggling corner of their business empire shortly before the newspaper’s reporters were allegedly “discouraged” from running articles critical of the bank, the Guardian has learned.
Here we go again, Proverbs 26:11 applies.
But what's this, just three paragraphs later in the very same Guardian smear-fest?
The documents show that Sir David and Sir Frederick Barclay had to formally give a personal financial guarantee as additional security for the loan facility.
Now, don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of the Telegraph or the Barclay Brothers, still less Yodel, whose delivery record to Nabavi Towers does not, shall we say, exactly inspire confidence. But the idea that a loan of £250m, secured on Yodel's business and with a personal guarantee by the mega-rich Barclay brothers, is some kind of reason for the Telegraph to be soft on HSBC is an insult to conspiracy theorists.
Wrong soap?
FFS thankfully Blair no longer has his finger on our nuclear button
If they have to release all 100 polls, I look forward to seeing what the party has in Watford and Ashfield.
Killed Lucy ...
Torygraph loan
Winners a winner... Max bet £160!!!!
Presumably every bank except HSBC has been ripping savers off!
January the crossover month, Febraury the pulling away month.
Basiliscious!!!!
Magic money tree?
Black (who bought it in, I think, 84) was an ideological soulmate of Thatcher
It's only after the boys from Brecqhou got involved that it all began to go downhill
Drift, drift. Tick, tock...
**** Shudders *****
I cant remember the last time I saw anyone carrying the Telegraph but then again, I don't commute.
Heseltine is virtually a socialist these days isn't he?
I must keep up
I'm distracted.
The Daily Mail have won the commuter Smartphone/pad battle hands down because they have a free app that downloads the paper before you leave the house automatically so still works when you are out of coverage or in a tunnel etc. Its also now widely read by commuters in the USA and Australia to the extent that they have their own domestic version of the Daily Mail online to download to their smartphones - and of course the free Metro is just a lite version of the Daily Mail.
Lab back ahead with these after 1 day of Tory plurality