I have no idea why this is rarely discussed on PB. Can someone enlighten me?
We should - it's a horrible number. Note that the issue started in 1971 when the Fed came off the gold standard and the modern era of central banking fiat money printing and credit expansion got underway. Be interesting to map that chart against the size of the BoE's balance sheet.
It tells us that we need to fix our economic model. Borrowing to spend is never a great strategy for individuals, for companies or for countries.
Ed was in it to win it. The real question is what the hell David was up to.
David thought he had won it.
This was another episode in the occasional series, "David Miliband is totally and utterly shit at politics".
What on earth David would have had to offer the voters over the course of this Parliament ......
Eating a bacon sandwich? Mangling vowels? Looking normal? Remembering the deficit? Strategic thinking? Understanding Business? Good relations with your brother?
One of the clearest cases of looking a better player when you're out of the team
Oh dear. Blocking democracy. Her remark is bordering on the disgusting.
Sarah Champion MP @SarahChampionMP "Hilarious Farage is trapped inside the #Rotherham UKIP shop by people objecting to him coming to rubber neck at victims!"
She came off us a nice, passionate person in the documentary the other day.
Less so by that tweet.
Agreed - she's very new in the seat so probably doesn't feel 'her' Labour are as tainted because of that... wrongly. It's not hilarious at all.
Wasn’t she picked from a centrally-imposed short list over local oppostion. According to wikipedia some in the local party “establishment” wanted someone who has now resigned both as a cabinet member and councillor.
Was someone beginning to get a grip?
I thought that was in Heywood and Middleton? Think you have got mixed up
No. Some in the local party wanted a favoured son candidate but the NEC wisely imposed a shortlist that contained noone associated with the council. Good for Labour (as they are far more likely to retain the seat as a result) and good for Rotherham (because they got a fine MP who seems dedicated and who has campaigned strongly on child safety and other issues).
She doesn't like it when other parties mention it though...
She seems to have worked very well with people in other parties on improving child safety.
Does Miliband never wake up and wonder whether Labour chose the right brother in that fratricidal leadership contest: that it might have done better opting for David, the older brother, the former foreign secretary adored by Hillary Clinton, the more experienced figure? “Definitely not,” he says firmly. “On the issues that matter most I’ve been proved right: on the cost of living, on responsible capitalism, on the challenge of the vested interests, inequality. I think Britain needs a Labour government and Britain needs a Labour government led by me.”
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One Labour MP — a supporter of Miliband in the leadership contest — says: “He’s not a presidential figure in a presidential contest. Can we win? No. We don’t mention him on the doorsteps and it will be interesting to see how many people put him on their leaflets. His relationship with his brother must be terrible. It’s tragic he has given up so much for something he’s not very good at. It was too big a step up for him.”
I do wonder if the only reason Ed ran for the leadership was, so he'd do well, and David could appoint him to a senior Shadow Cabinet role without it looking like nepotism.
I think Ed thought he'd win, and wanted to win. And fair enough too: he wasn't ever going to be leader if David had won. It's still his original sin though.
Come on David Miliband, come out and endorse Cameron for the GE.
The thing I can't work out is how David Miliband is still in the top 4 favourites as next Lab leader.
Have you seen the others? Where, dare I ask, is Tristram Hunt?
Does Miliband never wake up and wonder whether Labour chose the right brother in that fratricidal leadership contest: that it might have done better opting for David, the older brother, the former foreign secretary adored by Hillary Clinton, the more experienced figure? “Definitely not,” he says firmly. “On the issues that matter most I’ve been proved right: on the cost of living, on responsible capitalism, on the challenge of the vested interests, inequality. I think Britain needs a Labour government and Britain needs a Labour government led by me.”
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One Labour MP — a supporter of Miliband in the leadership contest — says: “He’s not a presidential figure in a presidential contest. Can we win? No. We don’t mention him on the doorsteps and it will be interesting to see how many people put him on their leaflets. His relationship with his brother must be terrible. It’s tragic he has given up so much for something he’s not very good at. It was too big a step up for him.”
I do wonder if the only reason Ed ran for the leadership was, so he'd do well, and David could appoint him to a senior Shadow Cabinet role without it looking like nepotism.
I think Ed thought he'd win, and wanted to win. And fair enough too: he wasn't ever going to be leader if David had won. It's still his original sin though.
Come on David Miliband, come out and endorse Cameron for the GE.
The thing I can't work out is how David Miliband is still in the top 4 favourites as next Lab leader.
Have you seen the others? Where, dare I ask, is Tristram Hunt?
Tristram Hunt is in same ball park as David Miliband, around the 12-16 range.
My grandmother was a staunch Tory voter. Don't think she ever voted for anyone else. She voted for Mrs Thatcher not because she was a Thatcherite but because she was a Conservative. Thatcher relied on the Tory brand created for a nation of universal suffrage by people like Baldwin, Churchill and McMilllan. Yet the success of that brand is now scorned in favour of 'buccaneering' tycoons like Murdoch.
In relation to Rotherham, I'm sure one thing that informed her opinions was ending up living much of her adult life in an area that was completely dominated by the Labour party at a local level which didn't endear them to her.
Can I ask some of PB's more older seasoned posters, as I wasn't even a teenager in 1992.
If the Tories had lost the 1992 General Election, am I right in thinking John Major would have resigned, if so, who would have been the next Tory leader?
Michael Heseltine?
Yeap, Heseltine would have taken over and become PM in 1997, thus finally making all his goals per decade come true.
Does Miliband never wake up and wonder whether Labour chose the right brother in that fratricidal leadership contest: that it might have done better opting for David, the older brother, the former foreign secretary adored by Hillary Clinton, the more experienced figure? “Definitely not,” he says firmly. “On the issues that matter most I’ve been proved right: on the cost of living, on responsible capitalism, on the challenge of the vested interests, inequality. I think Britain needs a Labour government and Britain needs a Labour government led by me.”
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One Labour MP — a supporter of Miliband in the leadership contest — says: “He’s not a presidential figure in a presidential contest. Can we win? No. We don’t mention him on the doorsteps and it will be interesting to see how many people put him on their leaflets. His relationship with his brother must be terrible. It’s tragic he has given up so much for something he’s not very good at. It was too big a step up for him.”
I do wonder if the only reason Ed ran for the leadership was, so he'd do well, and David could appoint him to a senior Shadow Cabinet role without it looking like nepotism.
Ed was in it to win it. The real question is what the hell David was up to.
DM is lazy and entitled, like a lot of lefties, and expected it to just drop into his lap as of right. When it didn't he flounced.
Can I ask some of PB's more older seasoned posters, as I wasn't even a teenager in 1992.
If the Tories had lost the 1992 General Election, am I right in thinking John Major would have resigned, if so, who would have been the next Tory leader?
Michael Heseltine?
Yeap, Heseltine would have taken over and become PM in 1997, thus finally making all his goals per decade come true.
Heseltine would have been still disliked due to his fenestration of Thatcher. There is a good chance it could have been Hurd, Lamont or an up and coming Clarke.
Can I ask some of PB's more older seasoned posters, as I wasn't even a teenager in 1992.
If the Tories had lost the 1992 General Election, am I right in thinking John Major would have resigned, if so, who would have been the next Tory leader?
Michael Heseltine?
No; I think he’d have been too associated with the ousting of Thatcher, which would have been blamed for the defeat. Probably Michael Howard.
On R4 at present is Margaret Hodge pontificating. A few of us remember the scandals of child abuse in Islington when she was its Labour Leader. Will the current Labour councillors in Rotherham fare as well? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Hodge#Child_abuse_controversy
Ed Stourton was well briefed "If PWC is so bad, why does Labour take money from them, have interns from them, your family firm use them, aand didn't you work for them?" She handled it well though....
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It tells us that we need to fix our economic model. Borrowing to spend is never a great strategy for individuals, for companies or for countries.
http://www.ukipwales.org.uk/our-candidates/4587404460
http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/next-labour-leader
In relation to Rotherham, I'm sure one thing that informed her opinions was ending up living much of her adult life in an area that was completely dominated by the Labour party at a local level which didn't endear them to her.
Rotherham's MP's says it is "hilarious" Nigel Farage was trapped in an office after abandoning a bid to open it. http://bbc.in/1Fe6GOe
Oh dear... could it get any worse for labour in Rotherham.
EDIT: I may have run two words together there. Sorry.