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  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    Pulpstar said:

    antifrank said:

    Pulpstar said:

    From the poll, doubt SNP will gain Glasgow NE,

    And East, North, South look safe enough SNP to me

    SW and NW could both be tight

    Central probably stays SNP whatever the weather but if Labour put in enough work isn't outside reach.

    Bear in mind that the polls may well understate the SNP's position, because it was compiled by reference to respondents' recall of their vote in 2010 (some respondents will be confused by the 2011 election, where far more voters opted for the SNP).

    But that looks like an accurate enough summary of the way in which the seats might swing back to Labour.
    Thanks,

    I'll let my big fat Cumbernauld bet ride then, and won't hedge out of the 3-1 £50 I have on Coatbridge.

    Coatbridge coming in would be the icing on the cake.
    Checking my spreadsheet I have a whole £7 on Coatbridge at 3-1.

    Hedging would get me £4 net. I'm following your fine example and letting it ride.

    I have 7 £10 pounds best, 1 each, on the Glasgow constituencies, max Net Return is £227 if they all come in - can hedge out for £78 net. 111% return on my money risk free sounds pretty good. . .

    But I'm going to let them ride!

    Maybe.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,631
    taffys said:

    Yes - that sort of feeble response is why we have the problem.

    But you are looking at a 10-years ago solution to the problem. There are 60,000 FGM kids, right? social services would have a meltdown.

    How many Perps are there in this Asian taxi driver rape scandal?

    Our prison population might have to double. Let alone the court/police/.probation time

    I think if we started prosecuting FGM aggressively, its incidence would drop so quickly that we wuldn't have to worry.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,538
    isam said:

    RodCrosby said:

    Glitter guilty on all charges: facing Life in jail...

    Rock & Roll!

    Looks like he really was the leader after all
    I imagine he'll face quite an uncomfortable time in jail.
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    Dair said:

    antifrank said:

    On topic, it has to be recognised that there have now been a succession of polls in Sheffield Hallam which don't exactly show Nick Clegg to be in a very good place. There comes a point where you have to acknowledge he's in a real dogfight just to get back to Parliament.

    If he doesn't and as seems almost certain now Danny Alexander doesn't, the dynamics of any post-election negotiations over the flavour of the next government are going to be radically different.

    You mean Cable and Farron will simply deliver the LibDem rump to Labour on a plate?
    Is Cable going to survive the election?
    Comfortably.

  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,631

    antifrank said:

    On topic, it has to be recognised that there have now been a succession of polls in Sheffield Hallam which don't exactly show Nick Clegg to be in a very good place. There comes a point where you have to acknowledge he's in a real dogfight just to get back to Parliament.

    If he doesn't and as seems almost certain now Danny Alexander doesn't, the dynamics of any post-election negotiations over the flavour of the next government are going to be radically different.

    Fair point. I think Clegg has already announced his negotiation team for 2015: Danny Alexander, Steve Webb, Sal Brinton, Lynne Featherstone and David Laws.

    As long as Clegg is leader I'm not sure if matters too much whether they're in the House or not.
    Lynne Featherstone will be an ex MP
    Danny Alexander will be an ex MP
    David Laws might be a surprise ex MP
    Steve Webb could well be an ex MP too
    Sal Brinton is not an MP
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,631
    JackW said:

    Dair said:

    antifrank said:

    On topic, it has to be recognised that there have now been a succession of polls in Sheffield Hallam which don't exactly show Nick Clegg to be in a very good place. There comes a point where you have to acknowledge he's in a real dogfight just to get back to Parliament.

    If he doesn't and as seems almost certain now Danny Alexander doesn't, the dynamics of any post-election negotiations over the flavour of the next government are going to be radically different.

    You mean Cable and Farron will simply deliver the LibDem rump to Labour on a plate?
    Is Cable going to survive the election?
    Comfortably.

    Yes, but will he hold Twickenham?
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,411
    Alistair said:

    Pulpstar said:

    antifrank said:

    Pulpstar said:

    From the poll, doubt SNP will gain Glasgow NE,

    And East, North, South look safe enough SNP to me

    SW and NW could both be tight

    Central probably stays SNP whatever the weather but if Labour put in enough work isn't outside reach.

    Bear in mind that the polls may well understate the SNP's position, because it was compiled by reference to respondents' recall of their vote in 2010 (some respondents will be confused by the 2011 election, where far more voters opted for the SNP).

    But that looks like an accurate enough summary of the way in which the seats might swing back to Labour.
    Thanks,

    I'll let my big fat Cumbernauld bet ride then, and won't hedge out of the 3-1 £50 I have on Coatbridge.

    Coatbridge coming in would be the icing on the cake.
    Checking my spreadsheet I have a whole £7 on Coatbridge at 3-1.

    Hedging would get me £4 net. I'm following your fine example and letting it ride.

    I have 7 £10 pounds best, 1 each, on the Glasgow constituencies, max Net Return is £227 if they all come in - can hedge out for £78 net. 111% return on my money risk free sounds pretty good. . .

    But I'm going to let them ride!

    Maybe.
    I need you campaigning hard in Edinburgh East !
  • rcs1000 said:

    antifrank said:

    On topic, it has to be recognised that there have now been a succession of polls in Sheffield Hallam which don't exactly show Nick Clegg to be in a very good place. There comes a point where you have to acknowledge he's in a real dogfight just to get back to Parliament.

    If he doesn't and as seems almost certain now Danny Alexander doesn't, the dynamics of any post-election negotiations over the flavour of the next government are going to be radically different.

    Fair point. I think Clegg has already announced his negotiation team for 2015: Danny Alexander, Steve Webb, Sal Brinton, Lynne Featherstone and David Laws.

    As long as Clegg is leader I'm not sure if matters too much whether they're in the House or not.
    Lynne Featherstone will be an ex MP
    Danny Alexander will be an ex MP
    David Laws might be a surprise ex MP
    Steve Webb could well be an ex MP too
    Sal Brinton is not an MP
    Why on earth do you think that Steve Webb could be an ex-MP? Lord Ashcroft found a large swing TO him from the Conservatives:

    http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2015/01/thornbury-yate/
  • Sean_F said:

    isam said:

    RodCrosby said:

    Glitter guilty on all charges: facing Life in jail...

    Rock & Roll!

    Looks like he really was the leader after all
    I imagine he'll face quite an uncomfortable time in jail.
    And there was I imagining that he was going to stride in and yell Hello It's Good To Be Back.
  • A few football bets for the remainder of the season that look reasonable, A few boys on here will be pleased to see number nine, and even as a Chelsea fan I think that is great value.

    I am on number three at 7/1

    Where do |I find these bets?
    Sorry Peter I forgot to post the link!

    http://www.football365.com/topical-top-10/9698048/Stoke-To-Win-Cup-And-Other-Big-Bets...

    I've got Koeman at 8/1 for LMA of the Year, but they are right looking at the past winners it's an old pals act, might hedge Fat Sam
    Thanks for that Nigel. I can't say I'm greatly enthused by many of these, the standout value for me would be Derby to win the Championship. This looks like a three horse race of roughly equal contenders, suggesting fair value of 2/1 for each, so 3/1 for the current joint leader looks like a good bet.
    Disclaimer: I'm a lifelong fan of the Rams!
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    Sean_F said:

    isam said:

    RodCrosby said:

    Glitter guilty on all charges: facing Life in jail...

    Rock & Roll!

    Looks like he really was the leader after all
    I imagine he'll face quite an uncomfortable time in jail.
    The World of 70s TV and Politics is looking increasingly like the Wilkinson home for boys in Sleepers
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,538
    antifrank said:

    Sean_F said:

    isam said:

    RodCrosby said:

    Glitter guilty on all charges: facing Life in jail...

    Rock & Roll!

    Looks like he really was the leader after all
    I imagine he'll face quite an uncomfortable time in jail.
    And there was I imagining that he was going to stride in and yell Hello It's Good To Be Back.
    LOL!

    I did hope he'd get machine-gunned in Vietnam a few years ago.
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,326

    Cyclefree said:

    AndyJS said:

    About a year ago it was put to Lynne Featherstone on Newsnight that at-risk girls should be checked by doctors to establish whether they had been subjected to FGM, as they do in France. Her response was to say something like "we couldn't possibly do that". The problem is if that's the only way to tackle the problem it has to be done no matter how objectionable some people may find it. If you simply ask people, of course they're going to deny it if they know they're going to be in serious trouble.

    Yes - that sort of feeble response is why we have the problem. We should just do it. And face down those who object. In my book people who do - or allow this to be done - to their daughters are child abusers. I have no interest in their objections. I would rather they learnt why it must not be done and ceased of their own accord but if that does not work then we must take sterner measures.

    I don't know how someone like that - who is concerned with the relative triviality of girls oppressed by size zero models in magazines - can ignore the immeasurable suffering that these girls endure, not just at the time, but for the rest of their lives. How can someone who claims to be concerned about women, who has the chance to do something about it in politics, sleep at night?
    Looks like you've got completely the wrong end of the stick.
    http://www.lynnefeatherstone.org/2014/02/join-my-campaign-to-end-fgm-in-a-generation.htm
    Why? Awareness? Tweets? What the hell are those going to do? Make those who sign and join the campaign feel good, no doubt. This is the sort of politics which thinks that saying something is the same as doing something.

    Action is what's needed: nurse inspection in schools is a bloody good place to start. We used to have them when I was a child.

  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,326
    taffys said:

    Yes - that sort of feeble response is why we have the problem.

    But you are looking at a 10-years ago solution to the problem. There are 60,000 FGM kids, right? social services would have a meltdown.

    How many Perps are there in this Asian taxi driver rape scandal?

    Our prison population might have to double. Let alone the court/police/.probation time

    So what would you do? Nothing?

    "Nobody made a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could only do a little."


  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    edited February 2015
    Sean_F said:

    antifrank said:

    Sean_F said:

    isam said:

    RodCrosby said:

    Glitter guilty on all charges: facing Life in jail...

    Rock & Roll!

    Looks like he really was the leader after all
    I imagine he'll face quite an uncomfortable time in jail.
    And there was I imagining that he was going to stride in and yell Hello It's Good To Be Back.
    LOL!

    I did hope he'd get machine-gunned in Vietnam a few years ago.
    I'd say he should be castrated but I don't think I can bear to see the Tories on here defend him
  • NeilNeil Posts: 7,983
    Dair said:

    The inevitability of the UK's bankruptcy over pensions is probably the most important factor in my determination to get Scotland out the UK as soon as possible.

    Well, it's a view I suppose. Up there with Belfast East being gerrymandered to deliver a seat to the Alliance Party though.
  • NeilNeil Posts: 7,983
    rcs1000 said:

    antifrank said:

    On topic, it has to be recognised that there have now been a succession of polls in Sheffield Hallam which don't exactly show Nick Clegg to be in a very good place. There comes a point where you have to acknowledge he's in a real dogfight just to get back to Parliament.

    If he doesn't and as seems almost certain now Danny Alexander doesn't, the dynamics of any post-election negotiations over the flavour of the next government are going to be radically different.

    Fair point. I think Clegg has already announced his negotiation team for 2015: Danny Alexander, Steve Webb, Sal Brinton, Lynne Featherstone and David Laws.

    As long as Clegg is leader I'm not sure if matters too much whether they're in the House or not.
    Lynne Featherstone will be an ex MP
    Danny Alexander will be an ex MP
    David Laws might be a surprise ex MP
    Steve Webb could well be an ex MP too
    Sal Brinton is not an MP
    You're right to change your mind about Featherstone's chances of hanging on but I think Steve Webb is safe as houses. Or if he's in trouble we really are in black cab territory.

  • isam said:

    Sean_F said:

    antifrank said:

    Sean_F said:

    isam said:

    RodCrosby said:

    Glitter guilty on all charges: facing Life in jail...

    Rock & Roll!

    Looks like he really was the leader after all
    I imagine he'll face quite an uncomfortable time in jail.
    And there was I imagining that he was going to stride in and yell Hello It's Good To Be Back.
    LOL!

    I did hope he'd get machine-gunned in Vietnam a few years ago.
    I'd say he should be castrated but I don't think I can bear to see the Tories on here defend him
    Not much point while he's in jail. If he were ever deemed safe enough to release otherwise, I wouldn't have a huge problem with it being made a condition of his release that he was chemically castrated. But you should be aware that castration does not stop abusers from abusing.
  • Argh . My phone keeps crashing every time I try to reply to antifrank or rcs1000! Lost four posts in a row..
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,300
    edited February 2015
    antifrank said:

    Sean_F said:

    isam said:

    RodCrosby said:

    Glitter guilty on all charges: facing Life in jail...

    Rock & Roll!

    Looks like he really was the leader after all
    I imagine he'll face quite an uncomfortable time in jail.
    And there was I imagining that he was going to stride in and yell Hello It's Good To Be Back.
    Another series of Pop off Their Tops is cancelled.


  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    isam said:

    Sean_F said:

    antifrank said:

    Sean_F said:

    isam said:

    RodCrosby said:

    Glitter guilty on all charges: facing Life in jail...

    Rock & Roll!

    Looks like he really was the leader after all
    I imagine he'll face quite an uncomfortable time in jail.
    And there was I imagining that he was going to stride in and yell Hello It's Good To Be Back.
    LOL!

    I did hope he'd get machine-gunned in Vietnam a few years ago.
    I'd say he should be castrated but I don't think I can bear to see the Tories on here defend him
    Replied to you on the new thread Very lonely there at the moment
  • DavidL said:

    Another 20 charged: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-31151445

    The government is accused of doing nothing but the courts are going to grind to a halt at this rate.


    Those charged in Newcastle with rape, sexual exploitation, drug or other offences, but not yet tried of course are:

    Eisa Mousavi
    Monjur Choudhury
    Redwan Siddquee
    Mohammed Hassan Ali,
    Abdulhamid Minoyee
    Ebrahim Ali Habibur Rahim
    Ibrahim Rousel
    Mohammed Khalique
    Mohammed Azram
    Nadeem Aslam
    Prabhat Nelli
    Taherul Alam
    Yassar Hussain
    Jahangir Zaman
    Badrul Hussain
    Abdul Sabe
    Karzan Mohammed
    Saiful Islam
    Nashir Uddin
  • taffys said:

    Yes - that sort of feeble response is why we have the problem.

    But you are looking at a 10-years ago solution to the problem. There are 60,000 FGM kids, right? social services would have a meltdown.

    How many Perps are there in this Asian taxi driver rape scandal?

    Our prison population might have to double. Let alone the court/police/.probation time

    Maybe we should just legalise crime?
  • john_zimsjohn_zims Posts: 3,399
    @DavidL

    'The government is accused of doing nothing but the courts are going to grind to a halt at this rate.'

    Is there any city or major town left in the UK that hasn't been contaminated by these scumbags?
  • Pensions will be abolished in a few years ... that is the whole point of auto-enrolment. Give it about 10 years and whoever is in government will say "everybody has their own pension so there is no need fo the state one to contnue beyond x date"
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108

    Pensions will be abolished in a few years ... that is the whole point of auto-enrolment. Give it about 10 years and whoever is in government will say "everybody has their own pension so there is no need fo the state one to contnue beyond x date"

    Yes but as Money Purchase pensions are virtually worthless, it's hardly going to work. Nationalising a business pension obligations has failed.
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