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  • Panelbase Scotland Poll

    SNP 41% -4%
    Labour 31% +3
    Conservatives 14% -1
    Ukip 7% +0
    Libdems 3% +0

    Broken, sleazy Nats on the slide?
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    A surprisingly large number of UKIP candidates are called Nigel.
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053

    MikeK said:

    isam said:

    Toms said:

    isam said:

    What is the collective noun for outliers?

    To be prosaic, mundane and statistical, how about a "spread".
    "A strawclutch of outliers" ?

    An Army of outliers.


    * Army is the collective noun for Herrings, which are Kippers....

    Are you joining the Peoples Army, MarkHopkins?

    No.

    Although Cameron's futile attempt to ban encryption (the US tried this before, it was a farce), does seem to be his attempt to find a demographic he hasn't p***ed off yet.

    I think you'll find that the Cameroons will continue to piss off people from all sections. I cannot see the Tories keeping Cameron as leader after the election, especially if he'll need UKIP as a coalition partner to keep in business.
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,708

    MikeK said:

    isam said:

    Toms said:

    isam said:

    What is the collective noun for outliers?

    To be prosaic, mundane and statistical, how about a "spread".
    "A strawclutch of outliers" ?

    An Army of outliers.


    * Army is the collective noun for Herrings, which are Kippers....

    Are you joining the Peoples Army, MarkHopkins?

    No.

    Although Cameron's futile attempt to ban encryption (the US tried this before, it was a farce), does seem to be his attempt to find a demographic he hasn't p***ed off yet.

    I guess the idea is just to propose something about terrorism that people will talk about in case there's an attack before the election. There's no point in saying something sensible because everyone will just agree and the media will ignore it. To get it in the news he needed to say something completely mental.
  • AndyJS said:

    A surprisingly large number of UKIP candidates are called Nigel.

    "Nigel wants to see Depeche Mode"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jn8T9M-6ktw
  • Tables.... Must... have... tables...
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053

    Tables.... Must... have... tables...

    I haven't got tables, but if you need a chair........................
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,708
    Pulpstar said:

    AndyJS said:

    The Tories have selected Ian Walker as their candidate for Sheffield Hallam:

    https://twitter.com/igwalker
    http://www.iangwalker.co.uk/

    SOFT PEDAL PLEASE>
    Hopefully he's retired or in a stable job. Putting that selection on your CV would be like advertising that you were the most useless person the Tories could find.
  • MikeK said:

    isam said:

    Toms said:

    isam said:

    What is the collective noun for outliers?

    To be prosaic, mundane and statistical, how about a "spread".
    "A strawclutch of outliers" ?

    An Army of outliers.


    * Army is the collective noun for Herrings, which are Kippers....

    Are you joining the Peoples Army, MarkHopkins?

    No.

    Although Cameron's futile attempt to ban encryption (the US tried this before, it was a farce), does seem to be his attempt to find a demographic he hasn't p***ed off yet.

    I guess the idea is just to propose something about terrorism that people will talk about in case there's an attack before the election. There's no point in saying something sensible because everyone will just agree and the media will ignore it. To get it in the news he needed to say something completely mental.
    Have you ever watched the IT Crowd?

    I reckon the head of the British Government's IT strategy/counter terrorism got the job the same way Jen got the job in the IT crowd.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    He's got quite a nifty website so it doesn't seem like he's a paper candidate in any sense.

    Pulpstar said:

    AndyJS said:

    The Tories have selected Ian Walker as their candidate for Sheffield Hallam:

    https://twitter.com/igwalker
    http://www.iangwalker.co.uk/

    SOFT PEDAL PLEASE>
    Hopefully he's retired or in a stable job. Putting that selection on your CV would be like advertising that you were the most useless person the Tories could find.
  • Steven_WhaleySteven_Whaley Posts: 313
    edited January 2015
    MikeK said:



    I think you'll find that the Cameroons will continue to piss off people from all sections. I cannot see the Tories keeping Cameron as leader after the election, especially if he'll need UKIP as a coalition partner to keep in business.

    Either the Conservatives will do well or UKIP will do well. They can't possibly both do well. If UKIP have a significant number of MPs then it probably means that the Conservatives will have been absolutely slaughtered. I reckon, because of the way the vote splits, that for every 1 seat that UKIP gain the Conservatives would lose 7-10 seats. If UKIP come out the other side of the election in double figures then the Conservatives will very probably be back down to about 200 seats.
  • MikeK said:

    Tables.... Must... have... tables...

    I haven't got tables, but if you need a chair........................
    Didn't know ComRes, Opinium or YouGov did chairs!
    ;)
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    I continue to follow with interest NBC Sports Network's efforts to sell the Premier League to Americans.

    Ratings are up, but from an incredibly low level. Part of the problem is the presentation - games start at 10am on weekends or mid-afternoon on a Monday or wednesday sometimes, Eastern. Nobody's going to watch that, and Americans don't like dvring sports, particularly when they probably know the result before they watch it.

    NBCSN shows every EPL game every week, but few are live, so you have to consult your program guide to know when it's on. See above.

    But they have come up with an interesting wrinkle - NBCSN now has a program called 'The Men in Blazers Show.' A 30 minute show, it airs weekly. Hosted by Roger Bennett and Michael Davies.

    They take a humorous view - both are Brits wearing - yes - blazers. This week they gave game summaries in haiku, had a fan of the week segment, featured a nipple of the week competition when players lift their shirts in celebration, together with endless references as to which pitch looked most like Wayne Rooney's hair.

    They also had a segment where they placed a microphone in the brain of Stevie G (I don't know who it is) and voiced in what sounded like a scouse accent his reasons for moving to the LA Galaxy, which was funny even to me. He's disappearing into a sports black hole. MLS is not mainstream sports here.

    They also weave in NFL references, such as declaring a goal celebration as about as attractive as a Chris Christie touchdown celebration.

    The show has reached the level that they got two sequential segments this week on the Dan Patrick Show, a radio show made by DirecTV, aired in 275 radio markets, and TV simulcast on - you guessed it - NBC Sports Network and DirecTV's Audience channel.

    Maybe there's hope yet.
  • SocratesSocrates Posts: 10,322
    London property is far too expensive:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7lTo7bCAAMia5a.png
  • SocratesSocrates Posts: 10,322
    @Tim_B

    I've heard from several sources that soccer is now huge in the Pacific Northwest.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,410
    Socrates said:

    London property is far too expensive:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7lTo7bCAAMia5a.png

    Miliband will sort it out :D
  • Socrates said:

    @Tim_B

    I've heard from several sources that soccer is now huge in the Pacific Northwest.

    Football!
  • compouter2compouter2 Posts: 2,371
    Tic Toc Tic Toc!

    Basil is devastated, goalposts are airborne and crossovers are happening only in the land of the Lord.

    ....."by January there will be regular Tory leads as they pull away."

    How we chortled.

    EICIPM!
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053

    MikeK said:



    I think you'll find that the Cameroons will continue to piss off people from all sections. I cannot see the Tories keeping Cameron as leader after the election, especially if he'll need UKIP as a coalition partner to keep in business.

    Either the Conservatives will do well or UKIP will do well. They can't possibly both do well. If UKIP have a significant number of MPs then it probably means that the Conservatives will have been absolutely slaughtered. I reckon, because of the way the vote splits, that for every 1 seat that UKIP gain the Conservatives would lose 7-10 seats. If UKIP come out the other side of the election in double figures then the Conservatives will very probably be back down to about 200 seats.
    Last post tonight.
    I don't think you are entirely right on this @Steven_Whaley, as believe it or not, UKIP are in position to take a number of Labour seats too.
  • SocratesSocrates Posts: 10,322

    Socrates said:

    @Tim_B

    I've heard from several sources that soccer is now huge in the Pacific Northwest.

    Football!
    What sort? Soccer or rugger?
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,831
    edited January 2015
    I want UKIP to use this as their theme tune for the election:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocesyTnYx14
    I think it has the right combination of uplifting chorus and slight pathos.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    It's going to be difficult for UKIP to win Labour seats because, even if they take more votes from Labour than the Tories in some constituencies, Labour will still be boosted by defections from the LDs in those seats.
    MikeK said:

    MikeK said:



    I think you'll find that the Cameroons will continue to piss off people from all sections. I cannot see the Tories keeping Cameron as leader after the election, especially if he'll need UKIP as a coalition partner to keep in business.

    Either the Conservatives will do well or UKIP will do well. They can't possibly both do well. If UKIP have a significant number of MPs then it probably means that the Conservatives will have been absolutely slaughtered. I reckon, because of the way the vote splits, that for every 1 seat that UKIP gain the Conservatives would lose 7-10 seats. If UKIP come out the other side of the election in double figures then the Conservatives will very probably be back down to about 200 seats.
    Last post tonight.
    I don't think you are entirely right on this @Steven_Whaley, as believe it or not, UKIP are in position to take a number of Labour seats too.
  • Socrates said:

    Socrates said:

    @Tim_B

    I've heard from several sources that soccer is now huge in the Pacific Northwest.

    Football!
    What sort? Soccer or rugger?
    *Real* football is played with the feet!
  • Some bright spark already posted Opinium and ComRes tables on Wikipedia - just YG left!
  • perdixperdix Posts: 1,806

    MikeK said:



    I think you'll find that the Cameroons will continue to piss off people from all sections. I cannot see the Tories keeping Cameron as leader after the election, especially if he'll need UKIP as a coalition partner to keep in business.

    Either the Conservatives will do well or UKIP will do well. They can't possibly both do well. If UKIP have a significant number of MPs then it probably means that the Conservatives will have been absolutely slaughtered. I reckon, because of the way the vote splits, that for every 1 seat that UKIP gain the Conservatives would lose 7-10 seats. If UKIP come out the other side of the election in double figures then the Conservatives will very probably be back down to about 200 seats.
    It was estimated by someone that ukip cost the Tories 20 seats in GE2010. This time they will cost the Tories another 50 seats. So hang on to your hats for the socialist revival.

  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,410
    AndyJS said:

    It's going to be difficult for UKIP to win Labour seats because, even if they take more votes from Labour than the Tories in some constituencies, Labour will still be boosted by defections from the LDs in those seats.

    MikeK said:

    MikeK said:



    I think you'll find that the Cameroons will continue to piss off people from all sections. I cannot see the Tories keeping Cameron as leader after the election, especially if he'll need UKIP as a coalition partner to keep in business.

    Either the Conservatives will do well or UKIP will do well. They can't possibly both do well. If UKIP have a significant number of MPs then it probably means that the Conservatives will have been absolutely slaughtered. I reckon, because of the way the vote splits, that for every 1 seat that UKIP gain the Conservatives would lose 7-10 seats. If UKIP come out the other side of the election in double figures then the Conservatives will very probably be back down to about 200 seats.
    Last post tonight.
    I don't think you are entirely right on this @Steven_Whaley, as believe it or not, UKIP are in position to take a number of Labour seats too.
    Those Labour targets are ~ 4-1 shots rather than the lower odds Tory targets though. Labour has alot of block vote up here, but Rother Valley/Rotherham will be close - I expect Labour to hold on though.
  • ComRes Green value definitely an outlier (3% v. average 6% polls this week)
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    Socrates said:

    @Tim_B

    I've heard from several sources that soccer is now huge in the Pacific Northwest.

    That may be - I have no information either way - but I saw a stat over the last weekend that 80% of the US population live in the eastern and central time zones - basically east of the Mississippi. I tried to find the link quickly but was unsuccessful. In percentage terms the Pacific Northwest isn't much of the US population. They do have the UK like climate though!

    This shows both the opportunity and some of the issues...

    http://www.ibtimes.com/us-soccer-does-mlss-growth-mean-there-are-now-5-major-american-sports-leagues-1718087

    This is from August - Seattle is the 9th largest market as of then.

    http://www.thewrap.com/nbc-sports-groups-premier-league-soccer-season-kicks-off-to-u-s-ratings-record/

    The ratings 'record' is an average of just over 500k viewers. That's fairly puny.
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669

    Socrates said:

    @Tim_B

    I've heard from several sources that soccer is now huge in the Pacific Northwest.

    Football!
    Trust me - football is huge in the Pacific Northwest - The Packers visit the Seahawks in the early game tomorrow (Sunday). It will get great ratings.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,937
    AndyJS said:

    A surprisingly large number of UKIP candidates are called Nigel.

    They're only making plans for Nigels.....
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,384

    From the Sunday Times

    THE Liberal Democrat leader Nick Clegg is being “airbrushed” from his party’s election campaign by his own MPs, research by the Tories reveals.

    Clegg’s photograph was used in just 3% of Lib Dem election leaflets produced between May last year and this month, and he is mentioned by name in less than 2%.

    Toxic!

  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    edited January 2015

    AndyJS said:

    A surprisingly large number of UKIP candidates are called Nigel.

    They're only making plans for Nigels.....
    According to Top Gear - an unimpeachable source if ever there was one - Australians now call brits Nigel in the same way all Australians are called Bruce.

    A surprising number of convicted murderers in the US have the middle name Wayne, according to News of the Weird.

    http://www.newsoftheweird.com/wayne.html
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,514
    edited January 2015
    God, I thought the whole Ferguson stuff had been left behind by the BBC. So what do I get when I turn on R5, Adrian Chiles has been doing a piece on African American's experience of police and he has just said "well what we got in places like Ferguson is unarmed African American's being dispatched".

    The BBC just can't accept in that particular case that a detailed investigation has been conducted and his description is nowhere near what the report concluded happened (and nobody has found any issues with the evidence provided). The kid wasn't just dispatched, he committed a robbery, attacked a police officer and attempted to take his gun.

    It is nearly as bad as the presenter on the night of the decision was "well that was the legal decision, but that isn't the moral decision".
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    Threado nuevo (I've already bagged 'first')
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited January 2015
    The Greens have now selected more candidates than they had at the 2010 general election which was 334 (310 E&W, 20 Scotland, 4 NI).

    Selection 335: Greenwich & Woolwich — Abbey Akinoshun.

    http://greenwich.greenparty.org.uk/people/
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    I'd say Great Grimsby is too close to call between Labour and UKIP. Otherwise Labour won't lose any seats to UKIP, but the purples could get a lot of impressive second places which would be useful if there were a second general election in 2015.
    Pulpstar said:

    AndyJS said:

    It's going to be difficult for UKIP to win Labour seats because, even if they take more votes from Labour than the Tories in some constituencies, Labour will still be boosted by defections from the LDs in those seats.

    MikeK said:

    MikeK said:



    I think you'll find that the Cameroons will continue to piss off people from all sections. I cannot see the Tories keeping Cameron as leader after the election, especially if he'll need UKIP as a coalition partner to keep in business.

    Either the Conservatives will do well or UKIP will do well. They can't possibly both do well. If UKIP have a significant number of MPs then it probably means that the Conservatives will have been absolutely slaughtered. I reckon, because of the way the vote splits, that for every 1 seat that UKIP gain the Conservatives would lose 7-10 seats. If UKIP come out the other side of the election in double figures then the Conservatives will very probably be back down to about 200 seats.
    Last post tonight.
    I don't think you are entirely right on this @Steven_Whaley, as believe it or not, UKIP are in position to take a number of Labour seats too.
    Those Labour targets are ~ 4-1 shots rather than the lower odds Tory targets though. Labour has alot of block vote up here, but Rother Valley/Rotherham will be close - I expect Labour to hold on though.
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    edited January 2015

    God, I thought the whole Ferguson stuff had been left behind by the BBC. So what do I get when I turn on R5, Adrian Chiles has been doing a piece on African American's experience of police and he has just said "well what we got in places like Ferguson is unarmed African American's being dispatched".

    The BBC just can't accept in that particular case that a detailed investigation has been conducted and his description is nowhere near what the report concluded happened (and nobody has found any issues with the evidence provided). The kid wasn't just dispatched, he committed a robbery, attacked a police officer and attempted to take his gun.

    It is nearly as bad as the presenter on the night of the decision was "well that was the legal decision, but that isn't the moral decision".

    He wasn't just attempting to take his gun but also to shoot its owner with it. He was high on something according to toxicology. Most people other than Al Sharpton and his fans accept that Wilson had no choice but to shoot.

    The New York case of the man who was choke held and died for selling loose cigarettes is far more problematic. Selling loosies shouldn't mean a death sentence, even if the perp had serious health issues. The fact that the senior sergeant in command at the time was a black female doesn't alter the fact that this was an over reaction - but the mayor had told them to enforce this law, so the cops were caught in the middle. I would have thought there were grounds for charges against the cops on this one.
  • IndigoIndigo Posts: 9,966
    edited January 2015
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