Anyway, even if others support the government's response, that's even MORE of a reason for those that understand the issues more deeply to negate the effect and reduce the incentive for governments to do such thing.
Did I use the word majority?
No, but you used the word "most", which means the same thing.
Anyway, even if others support the government's response, that's even MORE of a reason for those that understand the issues more deeply to negate the effect and reduce the incentive for governments to do such thing.
Did I use the word majority?
No, but you used the word "most", which means the same thing.
No it does not.
Or some of are screwed on say the MOST Seats market.
The effect will be zero, other than adding some welcome amusement.
About as significant as AIFE then?
What odds will someone give me that after the election at least one kipper argues that by adding Al Murray's votes to Nigel Farage's votes, UKIP were cheated out of an MP in South Thanet?
I was going to ask for odds on a Kipper saying Murray standing is great news for UKIP/Farage.
But they've beaten me to it.
Has anyone said it's great? It's probably a very slight help to Farage, by reducing his opponents' numbers by a couple hundred votes.
This is the polling from November, there's quite a few questions on dealing with terrorism, here's a few of the selected "highlights"
Theresa May has gone too far with anti-terrorism powers, infringing people's human rights and giving the police and the security services too many powers to snoop into ordinary people's lives
Gone too far 18% Not gone far enough 37% Balance about right 19% DK 27%
Requiring communications companies to store details identifing who was using a computer or mobile at a given time and make it available to the security services?
Good idea 51% Unnecessary overreaction 27% Not sure 22%
Requiring internet and social media companies to monitor content on their sites and inform the authorities of any communications that could relate to terrorist activity?
Good idea 67% Unnecessary overreaction 18% Not sure 16%
It's a bit like ID cards though, isnt it. Initial support but (1) when people learn more about it they may change their minds and (2) even if most are in favour those who are against are really against.
Err - no it's nothing like that. It's more like you're rubbishing a poll you don't like.
The effect will be zero, other than adding some welcome amusement.
About as significant as AIFE then?
What odds will someone give me that after the election at least one kipper argues that by adding Al Murray's votes to Nigel Farage's votes, UKIP were cheated out of an MP in South Thanet?
I was going to ask for odds on a Kipper saying Murray standing is great news for UKIP/Farage.
This is the polling from November, there's quite a few questions on dealing with terrorism, here's a few of the selected "highlights"
Theresa May has gone too far with anti-terrorism powers, infringing people's human rights and giving the police and the security services too many powers to snoop into ordinary people's lives
Gone too far 18% Not gone far enough 37% Balance about right 19% DK 27%
Requiring communications companies to store details identifing who was using a computer or mobile at a given time and make it available to the security services?
Good idea 51% Unnecessary overreaction 27% Not sure 22%
Requiring internet and social media companies to monitor content on their sites and inform the authorities of any communications that could relate to terrorist activity?
Good idea 67% Unnecessary overreaction 18% Not sure 16%
It's a bit like ID cards though, isnt it. Initial support but (1) when people learn more about it they may change their minds and (2) even if most are in favour those who are against are really against.
This is the polling from November, there's quite a few questions on dealing with terrorism, here's a few of the selected "highlights"
Theresa May has gone too far with anti-terrorism powers, infringing people's human rights and giving the police and the security services too many powers to snoop into ordinary people's lives
Gone too far 18% Not gone far enough 37% Balance about right 19% DK 27%
Requiring communications companies to store details identifing who was using a computer or mobile at a given time and make it available to the security services?
Good idea 51% Unnecessary overreaction 27% Not sure 22%
Requiring internet and social media companies to monitor content on their sites and inform the authorities of any communications that could relate to terrorist activity?
Good idea 67% Unnecessary overreaction 18% Not sure 16%
It's a bit like ID cards though, isnt it. Initial support but (1) when people learn more about it they may change their minds and (2) even if most are in favour those who are against are really against.
This is the polling from November, there's quite a few questions on dealing with terrorism, here's a few of the selected "highlights"
Theresa May has gone too far with anti-terrorism powers, infringing people's human rights and giving the police and the security services too many powers to snoop into ordinary people's lives
Gone too far 18% Not gone far enough 37% Balance about right 19% DK 27%
Requiring communications companies to store details identifing who was using a computer or mobile at a given time and make it available to the security services?
Good idea 51% Unnecessary overreaction 27% Not sure 22%
Requiring internet and social media companies to monitor content on their sites and inform the authorities of any communications that could relate to terrorist activity?
Good idea 67% Unnecessary overreaction 18% Not sure 16%
It's a bit like ID cards though, isnt it. Initial support but (1) when people learn more about it they may change their minds and (2) even if most are in favour those who are against are really against.
Also people support it when they don't think it will apply to them. As soon as they realise they are going to be monitored as well their attitude tends to change.
Also people support it when they don't think it will apply to them. As soon as they realise they are going to be monitored as well their attitude tends to change.
Yes there's that, another thing that turns people against such proposals, is a major data breach.
I know correlation doesn't imply causation, but I remember support for ID cards plummeted a few weeks after HMRC lost computer disks containing confidential details of 25 million child benefit recipients.
This is the polling from November, there's quite a few questions on dealing with terrorism, here's a few of the selected "highlights"
Theresa May has gone too far with anti-terrorism powers, infringing people's human rights and giving the police and the security services too many powers to snoop into ordinary people's lives
Gone too far 18% Not gone far enough 37% Balance about right 19% DK 27%
Requiring communications companies to store details identifing who was using a computer or mobile at a given time and make it available to the security services?
Good idea 51% Unnecessary overreaction 27% Not sure 22%
Requiring internet and social media companies to monitor content on their sites and inform the authorities of any communications that could relate to terrorist activity?
Good idea 67% Unnecessary overreaction 18% Not sure 16%
It's a bit like ID cards though, isnt it. Initial support but (1) when people learn more about it they may change their minds and (2) even if most are in favour those who are against are really against.
Err - no it's nothing like that. It's more like you're rubbishing a poll you don't like.
He isn't, he is just looking at past polling trends, and saying it probably applies here.
The effect will be zero, other than adding some welcome amusement.
About as significant as AIFE then?
What odds will someone give me that after the election at least one kipper argues that by adding Al Murray's votes to Nigel Farage's votes, UKIP were cheated out of an MP in South Thanet?
I was going to ask for odds on a Kipper saying Murray standing is great news for UKIP/Farage.
But they've beaten me to it.
Has anyone said it's great? It's probably a very slight help to Farage, by reducing his opponents' numbers by a couple hundred votes.
UKIP were only 600 votes away from winning Heywood and Middleton. Although I would like to think Farage is capable of winning by a large majority than a couple of hundreds votes.
Al Murray to lose his deposit at WH looks like a good bet.
Didn't someone suggest that there was nothing to see re vote rigging in Tower Hamlets?
Nothing will come of it. This has been going on for years without anything being done. If Lutfur Rahman is forced to go someone else will fill the void.
Sky News presenter just apologised for any offence after a French lady showed a copy of today's Charlie Hebdo front page. A nauseating spectacle and Sky should be ashamed of themselves.
This is the polling from November, there's quite a few questions on dealing with terrorism, here's a few of the selected "highlights"
Theresa May has gone too far with anti-terrorism powers, infringing people's human rights and giving the police and the security services too many powers to snoop into ordinary people's lives
Gone too far 18% Not gone far enough 37% Balance about right 19% DK 27%
Requiring communications companies to store details identifing who was using a computer or mobile at a given time and make it available to the security services?
Good idea 51% Unnecessary overreaction 27% Not sure 22%
Requiring internet and social media companies to monitor content on their sites and inform the authorities of any communications that could relate to terrorist activity?
Good idea 67% Unnecessary overreaction 18% Not sure 16%
It's a bit like ID cards though, isnt it. Initial support but (1) when people learn more about it they may change their minds and (2) even if most are in favour those who are against are really against.
Err - no it's nothing like that. It's more like you're rubbishing a poll you don't like.
He isn't, he is just looking at past polling trends, and saying it probably applies here.
There's nothing worse than the patronising chatterers when they're telling people how they should think on these matters. Fortunately they're the first in the gulags come the revolution.
Sky News presenter just apologised for any offence after a French lady showed a copy of today's Charlie Hebdo front page. A nauseating spectacle and Sky should be ashamed of themselves.
Sky News presenter just apologised for any offence after a French lady showed a copy of today's Charlie Hebdo front page. A nauseating spectacle and Sky should be ashamed of themselves.
The effect will be zero, other than adding some welcome amusement.
About as significant as AIFE then?
What odds will someone give me that after the election at least one kipper argues that by adding Al Murray's votes to Nigel Farage's votes, UKIP were cheated out of an MP in South Thanet?
The only reason I ever mentioned that was because Mike wrote a thread suggesting AIFE would take about 1.5-2% of the UKIP vote by people mistaking them for UKIP, then when they did saying "as I expected" then saying UKIP underperformed the polls by a per cent or two and people saying "nothing to do with AIFE"
It either was or it wasn't, couldn't be both
But I don't think we can blame Al Murray for Farage not winning.. I expect him to win by much further than the Al Murray vote
BNP - collapsed. EDL - atomised. Britain First - a miniscule group of comedy chimps.
For some people its a case of 'there's islamic terrorism ergo there must be a thriving far right'
forget it.
The ultra-Right are alive and well in the form of UKIP, of course.
The British public consider the Conservatives further right than UKIP. And they're the ones that support a preference for White Europeans in immigration policy...
Thought Mike might have written about UKIP selecting an ex Labour candidate, who used to be Lord Mayor of London in the target seat of S Basildon and E Thurrock which has got so much publicity recently
Given that he has backed the 10/3 on the back of it etc etc #politicalbetting
He's one of the people that lives in an area of low migration and can be taken as evidence that UKIP people have never witnessed the effects of mass migration.
You don't know Bedford very well do you?
"Bedford Borough has an ethnically diverse population. The 2011 Census indicates that 28.5% of the population was from minority ethnic groups (BME), compared to 20.2% nationally. The BME population increased by 16,400 between 2001 and 2011, whereas the ‘White British’ population declined by 6,900.
The BME population is extremely diverse and the Borough ranks in the Top 100 of 348 English local authorities on the proportion of its population in 15 of the 17 minority ethnic groupings – the ‘White Other’ (e.g. Italian and Polish), Indian, Bangladeshi and Black Caribbean populations all exceed the England average.
The BME population is concentrated in the urban area of Bedford and Kempston, with particularly large BME communities in Queens Park (75%) and Cauldwell (59%) wards. The BME level is higher among younger age groups and a majority (51%) of the 0-4 population in Bedford and Kempston is non-‘White British’."
OGH can fairly be said to have his money where his mouth is on this one. Bear in mind when looking at those figures that Bedford Borough also contains the whole of Rural north Bedfordshire which is almost 100% white British.
Looking at the figures Bedfordshire appears to be rapidly segregating into two urban areas (Bedford; pop 100,000 (including Kemspton) and Luton; pop 200,000) which whites are rapidly leaving and a large rural area with an increasing population (320,000) that is almost 100% white. The only place I've seen the sort of segregation that is emerging in Bedfordshire before is South Africa. If this is reflective of the rest of the country its not good news.
The effect will be zero, other than adding some welcome amusement.
But as far as I can see the welcome amusement belongs to this evening only. It's an amusing amusing conceit that Al Murray pub landlord is standing against Nigel Farage. That *is* the punchline -there it begins and there it ends. What's he actually going to do -knock on doors? Do his little routine at the candidates debate? Seems like an annoying running gag if it's going to be going on for 3 months.
The effect will be zero, other than adding some welcome amusement.
But as far as I can see the welcome amusement belongs to this evening only. It's an amusing amusing conceit that Al Murray pub landlord is standing against Nigel Farage. That *is* the punchline -there it begins and there it ends. What's he actually going to do -knock on doors? Do his little routine at the candidates debate? Seems like an annoying running gag if it's going to be going on for 3 months.
Question is, if the Loonies have a candidate who will get more votes?
My lack of understanding of statistical analysis has enabled me to make dough on both first goalscorers tonight using the program I wrote for analysing goalscoring statistics
Good to see Mike taking 10/3 about UKIP in South Basildon earlier
I took 20/1 in June after running the recent election performances through the program I wrote to analyse election data
@LadPolitics: We've already taken more money on @almurray at 66/1 to win Thanet South than we have on Labour (7/1), who held the seat until 2010. #Cheers.
Because its the leaders debate and he is the leader?
Not in Westminster, he isn't.
Bit farcical really.
I really don't see how. It's a debate between representatives of the various parties, none of whom are certain to be returned as MPs or elected as MPs for the first time (even if safe seats means at least two are almost certain to be returned). If this is a 'Parliamentary Leaders' debate specifically, then all the parties need to do is send the person who they intend to lead their party in the parliament that is to be elected. Whether they end up doing so seems fairly irrelevant, as one of Cameron or Miliband will stand down as Leader when they lose anyway, and even if the LDs hold up reasonably Clegg will probably go as well not long after to signal some sort identity change for the party.
What you should wonder about is why virtually every synagogue and Jewish school in the UK needs to put security guards outside. But you don't seem to give a damn about prejudice against Jews. The only prejudice you care about is that you can weaponise against UKIP.
Because its the leaders debate and he is the leader?
Not in Westminster, he isn't.
Bit farcical really.
I really don't see how.
It goes like this:
(1) Have a predisposition to dislike UKIP. (2) Declare everything they say or do to be a bit farcical. (3) Share your fascinating insights with everyone else on pbc.
What you should wonder about is why virtually every synagogue and Jewish school in the UK needs to put security guards outside. But you don't seem to give a damn about prejudice against Jews. The only prejudice you care about is that you can weaponise against UKIP.
Just when you think you've heard it all.
UKIP are no friend of the Jews. And the security is there to keep out the skinheads and other lunatics that have wished them ill for decades. The people who dislike immigrants and 'strangers' from other religions. You know the ones.
I wonder what Murray would do if he actually won ? After 5 years of sitting on the back benches and listening to people moaning about their neighbours the joke might wear a bit thin. By-election in 12 months ?
David Pleat Former Tottenham manager on BBC Radio 5 live Sports Extra
Tottenham 1-2 Burnley
"I don't know how Roberto Soldado missed that. It was incredible. What must be going through his head? It was a most wonderful chance. That should have been the goal to make it 2-2 at half-time."
HITS THE WOODWORK
Tottenham 1-2 Burnley
What a miss! Andros Townsend does the damage down the right again for Spurs, he drives on and serves it up on a plate, with garnish, for Roberto Soldado. He's five yards out, an open goal - and he scuffs it against his standing foot and on to the bar!
How on earth has he missed that? I mean, seriously?
What you should wonder about is why virtually every synagogue and Jewish school in the UK needs to put security guards outside. But you don't seem to give a damn about prejudice against Jews. The only prejudice you care about is that you can weaponise against UKIP.
Just when you think you've heard it all.
UKIP are no friend of the Jews. And the security is there to keep out the skinheads and other lunatics that have wished them ill for decades. The people who dislike immigrants and 'strangers' from other religions. You know the ones.
Give me a break. You know full well that the danger to Jewish schools and synagogues is overwhelmingly from militant Muslims.
I'm not really a fan of Kebabs, but why is Pizza off limits?
Oh gods, Curry isn't funding terrorism too I hope.
Either way, I haven't seen it before, but on the basis I might learn something, perhaps I will have to watch the Great British Bake Off now?
I kid you not, one stupid Cybernat, gave Mike abuse on twitter, because Mike's a fan of the Great British Bake Off, apparently the Great British Bake Off, was a BBC/Unionist plot to make Britain sound brilliant, and make people vote No.
BigJohnOwls had a curry the other night, he's supporting terrorism.
What you should wonder about is why virtually every synagogue and Jewish school in the UK needs to put security guards outside. But you don't seem to give a damn about prejudice against Jews. The only prejudice you care about is that you can weaponise against UKIP.
Just when you think you've heard it all.
UKIP are no friend of the Jews. And the security is there to keep out the skinheads and other lunatics that have wished them ill for decades. The people who dislike immigrants and 'strangers' from other religions. You know the ones.
Give me a break. You know full well that the danger to Jewish schools and synagogues is overwhelmingly from militant Muslims.
You severely overestimate him, I think. He genuinely doesn't know things like that.
Just checked that. That supposed underspend is to the end of the financial year (this one) and includes contingency. Without contingency it is 130M or so. Not too bad - about 0.33% of the budget. Worth bearing in mind, too, the cuts affect running costs too.
Does anyone know where I can buy the latest edition of Charlie Hebdo in the UK?
According to tonight's Evening Standard, La Page, a newsagent in South Kensington will be getting copies on Friday and is already taking reservations. So you could try there.
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Or some of are screwed on say the MOST Seats market.
Yes there's that, another thing that turns people against such proposals, is a major data breach.
I know correlation doesn't imply causation, but I remember support for ID cards plummeted a few weeks after HMRC lost computer disks containing confidential details of 25 million child benefit recipients.
Can I ask, why is Farage assumed to be allowed to participate?
He isn't elected to Westminster. Carswell, Reckless, maybe.
But Farage?
Might as well have Myleene Klass and Russell Brand.
Al Murray to lose his deposit at WH looks like a good bet.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-30819561
Didn't someone suggest that there was nothing to see re vote rigging in Tower Hamlets?
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/01/14/uk-swiss-immigration-idUKKBN0KN27R20150114?rpc=401&
Angry, White and Proud.
Interesting to see how much UKIP feature.
Talk about scraping the barrel.
BNP - collapsed. EDL - atomised. Britain First - a miniscule group of comedy chimps.
For some people its a case of 'there's islamic terrorism ergo there must be a thriving far right'
forget it.
The 3 are Paulinho cos he can't defend and the attacking threat that is Capoue and Stambouli...
then 2 left backs and 3 CBs.
I've just doubled my bet/hedge on Bad Al and OGH's reserves.
http://www.liverpoolconservatives.org/news/liverpool-conservatives-select-parliamentary-candidates
So far the total for these parties for the 2015 election is one: an Eng Dem candidate in Berwick-upon-Tweed.
Written when the last babyish cartoon-fuelled tantrums blew up.
Burnley lead at Spurs.
Yeh, and as they got millions of votes in the euros, the blackshirts are goose stepping across Britain.
When will people realise that, for those who would defeat Farage, calling him a fascist only makes things infinitely worse.
It either was or it wasn't, couldn't be both
But I don't think we can blame Al Murray for Farage not winning.. I expect him to win by much further than the Al Murray vote
Pathetic class war snobbery - a horrid trait of the hard left.
Shame.
Sounds like a fifth column to me.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/11342699/Newsagent-defies-threats-by-stocking-Charlie-Hebdo-magazine.html
"Bedford Borough has an ethnically diverse population. The 2011 Census indicates that 28.5% of the population was from minority ethnic groups (BME), compared to 20.2% nationally. The BME population increased by 16,400 between 2001 and 2011, whereas the ‘White British’ population declined by 6,900.
The BME population is extremely diverse and the Borough ranks in the Top 100 of 348 English local authorities on the proportion of its population in 15 of the 17 minority ethnic groupings – the ‘White Other’ (e.g. Italian and Polish), Indian, Bangladeshi and Black Caribbean populations all exceed the England average.
The BME population is concentrated in the urban area of Bedford and Kempston, with particularly large BME communities in Queens Park (75%) and Cauldwell (59%) wards. The BME level is higher among younger age groups and a majority (51%) of the 0-4 population in Bedford and Kempston is non-‘White British’."
http://www.bedford.gov.uk/council_and_democracy/statistics_and_census/borough_statistical_profile.aspx (Demography - Updated December 2014)
OGH can fairly be said to have his money where his mouth is on this one. Bear in mind when looking at those figures that Bedford Borough also contains the whole of Rural north Bedfordshire which is almost 100% white British.
Looking at the figures Bedfordshire appears to be rapidly segregating into two urban areas (Bedford; pop 100,000 (including Kemspton) and Luton; pop 200,000) which whites are rapidly leaving and a large rural area with an increasing population (320,000) that is almost 100% white. The only place I've seen the sort of segregation that is emerging in Bedfordshire before is South Africa. If this is reflective of the rest of the country its not good news.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/04/19/uk-fitch-downgrade-idUKBRE93I0SJ20130419
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21554311
And, wasn't S&P's record rather badly dented over Enron?
Good to see Mike taking 10/3 about UKIP in South Basildon earlier
I took 20/1 in June after running the recent election performances through the program I wrote to analyse election data
Bit farcical really.
Greens similar I suppose with Sheila.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2909185/Mass-immigration-led-Muslim-ghettos-Britain-run-Sharia-Law-says-Farage-Ukip-leader-claims-authorities-turn-blind-eye-TV-interview.html
Happy now?
So what though?
(1) Have a predisposition to dislike UKIP.
(2) Declare everything they say or do to be a bit farcical.
(3) Share your fascinating insights with everyone else on pbc.
@FUKPnews: First official FUKP results in from @Kent_Online. http://t.co/wxtxhtQuHt
UKIP are no friend of the Jews. And the security is there to keep out the skinheads and other lunatics that have wished them ill for decades. The people who dislike immigrants and 'strangers' from other religions. You know the ones.
David Pleat
Former Tottenham manager on BBC Radio 5 live Sports Extra
Tottenham 1-2 Burnley
"I don't know how Roberto Soldado missed that. It was incredible. What must be going through his head? It was a most wonderful chance. That should have been the goal to make it 2-2 at half-time."
HITS THE WOODWORK
Tottenham 1-2 Burnley
What a miss! Andros Townsend does the damage down the right again for Spurs, he drives on and serves it up on a plate, with garnish, for Roberto Soldado. He's five yards out, an open goal - and he scuffs it against his standing foot and on to the bar!
How on earth has he missed that? I mean, seriously?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7VUsY6CcAArnAe.jpg
Oh gods, Curry isn't funding terrorism too I hope.
Either way, I haven't seen it before, but on the basis I might learn something, perhaps I will have to watch the Great British Bake Off now?
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/jan/14/tower-hamlets-mayor-lutfur-rahman-fraud-claims?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=dlvr.it
Presumably the government will now call the Guardian out for stirring up tensions. Or is that only the case when Farage mentions it?
BigJohnOwls had a curry the other night, he's supporting terrorism.
Many a true word spoken in jest on PB
BNP - 500, BF - 800, EDL - 2,500
Even adding them together that's less than 10% of UKIP or the Greens.
Once again, the British public demonstrating excellent judgement
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/ohio-man-arrested-alleged-isis-inspired-attack-us/story?id=28227724
Sounds like another "convert"...
I prefer S&P myself, but they and Moody's are equally significant
Haha, only joking, you'd be dead from alcohol poisoning if you did that.
@markmacmillan12: Under @theSNP teacher numbers are down & local courts are being closed, all at same time as they underspend by £444m. http://t.co/LwPtw3luAl
This was, he said, a "high risk" year which could see the BBC "diminished' and "stuck in an analogue cul-de-sac".
There was a clear message to the BBC's staff - brace yourself - it could well get a bit ugly, the BBC may never be the same again.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-30817270
I have no idea what the underlying messages in Halls speech and this article are....
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/mold-tesco-racist-attack-asian-4979810
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/mold-tesco-attack-man-held-8449310
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/coffee-shop-boss-faces-death-threat-over-je-suis-charlie-sign-outside-brick-lane-shop-9976546.html
@SkyNews: New ZX Spectrum Goes On Sale In April http://t.co/XWMFNecQs0