So the Kippers are the party that cares for the gays and immigrants.
Okaaay
Just when I was thinking about voting Tory again TSE shows up with this b*****ks.... Labour might be "masosadists", Kippers I suspect are not, I can't see the "beat me and I'll vote for you" approach working.
Why would you think he was sincere about gay marriage rather than doing what he thought was politically expedient?
That's completely daft, it wasn't politically expedient. Quite the opposite, in fact.
You are right that it didn't turn out as he expected but what I said was
"what he thought was politically expedient?"
I don't think anyone in Number 10 thought gay marriage would be politically expedient. From what I can tell it is one of the few issues that Dave actually believes in which is why he pushed ahead despite the damage and probable loss of socially conservative voters to UKIP.
Banks, mansions, jobless migrants and Starbucks get a shafting in order for more jam on air ambulances, doctors, kiddy telly, roads and housing. Fair dinkum.
Most interesting though is the fairly bullish deficit reduction projection. Do we believe it?
So the Kippers are the party that cares for the gays and immigrants.
Okaaay
Just when I was thinking about voting Tory again TSE shows up with this b*****ks.... Labour might be "masosadists", Kippers I suspect are not, I can't see the "beat me and I'll vote for you" approach working.
Dave, you know when you legalised gay marriage and made that awesome speech telling the gay kid in the closet he could now stand tall?
"He obviously quite likes taking it as well" snigger snigger.
Yeah, language matters.
He voted for Section 28... in 2003
Why would you think he was sincere about gay marriage rather than doing what he thought was politically expedient?
He is suggesting treating Eastern European labourers as 2nd class citizens now, but I don't think he is really a social cleanser. He is just a follower of focus groups and opinion polls
You find endless ways to show how pathetic you are. We could find a long list of tories who have changed their minds - starting with confirmed right winger Michael Howard. ''...I thought, rightly or wrongly, that there was a problem in those days. That problem simply doesn't exist now. Nobody's fussed about those issues any more. It's not a problem, so the law shouldn't be hanging around on the statute book''.
Whats significant is that you have a hang up and still obsess about the issue and clearly want to discriminate against homosexuals. UKIP is a repository for the prejudiced.
Why would you think he was sincere about gay marriage rather than doing what he thought was politically expedient?
That's completely daft, it wasn't politically expedient. Quite the opposite, in fact.
You are right that it didn't turn out as he expected but what I said was
"what he thought was politically expedient?"
I don't think anyone in Number 10 thought gay marriage would be politically expedient. From what I can tell it is one of the few issues that Dave actually believes in which is why he pushed ahead despite the damage and probable loss of socially conservative voters to UKIP.
Are we moving to the far more sensible Scottish system or something like it ?
That nice house I wanted to buy?
Just got £250,000 more expensive.
Thanks George.
I suspect the seller is going to get 250,000 less....
The shortage of housing, especially big properties is so cryonic, I doubt it will. And a huge percentage of buyers at the high end are foreign, I am not sure a big increase in a one-off tax will alter the reasons why they want to buy a £10 million mansion in London.
I am not sure Labour's mansion tax would put them off either, but those already in their homes and cash poor would get stung under Labour's plans.
I find this response a bit weird. Balls keeps asking Osborne questions but Osborne doesn't get to answer them.
He will, in theory. After Balls sits down, Osborne "answers' him - or, more likely, goes on about Labour's record.....
And then the Leader of the Liberal Democrats gets up to ask questions... oooh er... I wonder if LibDems actually appreciate the benefits of that not happening?
Unemployment is falling and close to the level where you would say it is 'full'. Its a bit pathetic to echo Ed Balls and moan about pay and 'zero hours'.
There will always be a level of unemployed, due to the churn of jobs. Its not people on the register but people not on anything or on some other benefit who are the problem. Judging by Farage's attitude to women in the city I imagine that he would find most of these people unemployable. But this is the real UK problem, lack of education and willpower for the available work by these people. Its yet another savage Labour legacy. A disgrace. Thats why immigrant workers are so attractive to employers. These people are good for Britain and if Farage were honest he would admit they would still be here under a UKIP govt. Its not something that can be put right overnight. We can make life on benefits less attractive and thats what the govt will continue to do, but to make the people themselves a desirable employment proposition is a different matter.
As I have said before I am not (yet) a kipper, and I firmly a pissed-off Tory at the moment, pissed off with Cameron that is. I know a number of my colleagues disagree, but as a teacher and part owner of a school I was a huge fan of Gove, and ditching him to pander to a group of leftie teachers that would never have voted Tory anyway was not clever, and symptomatic of Camerons whole approach, like ditching traditional Tory voters to pander to Guardian reader, who similarly would never vote Tory, he never seems to miss an opportunity to either make a pledge he is conspicuously not able to keep, or alienate a group of Tory voters to purse a group of other voters who would never vote Tory.
The polling evidence is the so-called lefty teachers did mostly vote Tory in 2010. That shows up the problem with Gove: he managed to alienate the people who were on his side. To the extent politics is about building alliances, he was a lousy politician.
Balls just said: 'Without a plan for jobs and work this isn't going to work'. Has he been asleep for the last couple of years? Do the unemployment stats mean nothing to him? I summarise thus:
Osborne: He's my plan for the economy, jobs, work, deficits and debts. It's working so far. Balls: But you're going to need a plan for that. Everyone else: WTF?
The political significance of the Autumn Statement is that the 'rabbit out of the hat' is that there is no rabbit out of the hat. No giveaways and little in the way of gimmicks. That's almost certainly the correct approach from a party-political viewpoint.
The political significance of the Autumn Statement is that the 'rabbit out of the hat' is that there is no rabbit out of the hat. No giveaways and little in the way of gimmicks. That's almost certainly the correct approach from a party-political viewpoint.
a bit of a premature release there Richard, nobody's seen the detail yet.
Why would you think he was sincere about gay marriage rather than doing what he thought was politically expedient?
That's completely daft, it wasn't politically expedient. Quite the opposite, in fact.
You are right that it didn't turn out as he expected but what I said was
"what he thought was politically expedient?"
I don't think anyone in Number 10 thought gay marriage would be politically expedient. From what I can tell it is one of the few issues that Dave actually believes in which is why he pushed ahead despite the damage and probable loss of socially conservative voters to UKIP.
In 2003 he voted against repealing Section 28
Was it a free vote ?
Nope, was a three line whip imposed by IDS.
If memory serves, Osborne and Boris rebelled.
Exactly. So all this banging on about how Cameron voted on it or not is bullshit, he's a Tory MP, he followed the Tory 3-line Whip. And the surprising bit about that is ... ?
So the Kippers are the party that cares for the gays and immigrants.
Okaaay
Just when I was thinking about voting Tory again TSE shows up with this b*****ks.... Labour might be "masosadists", Kippers I suspect are not, I can't see the "beat me and I'll vote for you" approach working.
Are we moving to the far more sensible Scottish system or something like it ?
That nice house I wanted to buy?
Just got £250,000 more expensive.
Thanks George.
I suspect the house price will fall commesurately - so it will now be £7.8m or so :-)
This is really a tax on foreign buyers of prime London property.
And anyone who wants a two bedroom flat in Hampstead.
You mean my 2 bedroom flat in Kensington is going to fall in value as well!
Sheesh, thanks George!
(of course I knew this in advance - I'm just whinging...and making the point that taxes have gone up significantly on the richest in the country, while they haven't benefited from things like the increase in the personal allowance)
Why would you think he was sincere about gay marriage rather than doing what he thought was politically expedient?
That's completely daft, it wasn't politically expedient. Quite the opposite, in fact.
You are right that it didn't turn out as he expected but what I said was
"what he thought was politically expedient?"
I don't think anyone in Number 10 thought gay marriage would be politically expedient. From what I can tell it is one of the few issues that Dave actually believes in which is why he pushed ahead despite the damage and probable loss of socially conservative voters to UKIP.
In 2003 he voted against repealing Section 28
Was it a free vote ?
Nope, was a three line whip imposed by IDS.
If memory serves, Osborne and Boris rebelled.
Exactly. So all this banging on about how Cameron voted on it or not is bullshit, he's a Tory MP, he followed the Tory 3-line Whip. And the surprising bit about that is ... ?
Oh right, i get it, for very high value properties it's gone up from 7% to 11-12%ish
So a £50m mansion only lost ~£2.5m in value.
Small change...
How do you know it lost that? When you are talking about £50 million properties, they are hard to come by in the first place and prices fluctuate more than a Lord Ashcroft poll, in both good and bad times.
They aren't the sort of places that if you can go down the road and find an identical place. It like compares a painting from Ikea to one by a great artist. One has basically a market price, the other is worth whatever people will pay for their dream.
Oh right, i get it, for very high value properties it's gone up from 7% to 11-12%ish
So a £50m mansion only lost ~£2.5m in value.
Small change...
It'll only affect the vulgar "new rich".
Properly rich people don't move or sell their houses/estates. Tbh they should be the only ones allowed that sort of money, Lord and Lady Chatsworth's property is a joy to visit, I don't see cross country eventing around Wayne Rooney's manor
Damn. I clicked on the link and now, when I am trying to complete my online shopping at Lidl, I will have multi-million pound Kensington houses flashing up for sale on my computer.
Are we moving to the far more sensible Scottish system or something like it ?
That nice house I wanted to buy?
Just got £250,000 more expensive.
Thanks George.
I suspect the house price will fall commesurately - so it will now be £7.8m or so :-)
This is really a tax on foreign buyers of prime London property.
And anyone who wants a two bedroom flat in Hampstead.
You mean my 2 bedroom flat in Kensington is going to fall in value as well!
Sheesh, thanks George!
(of course I knew this in advance - I'm just whinging...and making the point that taxes have gone up significantly on the richest in the country, while they haven't benefited from things like the increase in the personal allowance)
Charles: do you know how much sympathy the average man in the street (or on this site for that matter) has for you or me?
It's convenient for the American School in St John's Wood. You can take the Jubilee or Metropolitan lines from Finchley Road to the City or the West End. There's a large green space around here too.
Oh yes, and there are plenty of immigrants, so your wife will fit right in.
Why do people want big/fancy houses? Don't quiet and a bit of space to get on with things suffice? If you want to see expensive elegance try the Nat'l Trust.
Damn. I clicked on the link and now, when I am trying to complete my online shopping at Lidl, I will have multi-million pound Kensington houses flashing up for sale on my computer.
So like about half of Lidl's customers then...
(do they do online shopping - thought they didn't. If they do, I'd happily switch to them!)
Are we moving to the far more sensible Scottish system or something like it ?
That nice house I wanted to buy?
Just got £250,000 more expensive.
Thanks George.
I suspect the house price will fall commesurately - so it will now be £7.8m or so :-)
This is really a tax on foreign buyers of prime London property.
And anyone who wants a two bedroom flat in Hampstead.
You mean my 2 bedroom flat in Kensington is going to fall in value as well!
Sheesh, thanks George!
(of course I knew this in advance - I'm just whinging...and making the point that taxes have gone up significantly on the richest in the country, while they haven't benefited from things like the increase in the personal allowance)
Charles: do you know how much sympathy the average man in the street (or on this site for that matter) has for you or me?
The Mansion Tax proposed by Ed and Vince is high grade organic bullshit. Symbolic but ineffectual at raising large amounts. But Osborne could have index linked the stamp duty rates a while ago.
Unemployment is falling and close to the level where you would say it is 'full'. Its a bit pathetic to echo Ed Balls and moan about pay and 'zero hours'.
There will always be a level of unemployed, due to the churn of jobs. Its not people on the register but people not on anything or on some other benefit who are the problem. Judging by Farage's attitude to women in the city I imagine that he would find most of these people unemployable. But this is the real UK problem, lack of education and willpower for the available work by these people. Its yet another savage Labour legacy. A disgrace. Thats why immigrant workers are so attractive to employers. These people are good for Britain and if Farage were honest he would admit they would still be here under a UKIP govt. Its not something that can be put right overnight. We can make life on benefits less attractive and thats what the govt will continue to do, but to make the people themselves a desirable employment proposition is a different matter.
As I have said before I am not (yet) a kipper, and I firmly a pissed-off Tory at the moment, pissed off with Cameron that is. I know a number of my colleagues disagree, but as a teacher and part owner of a school I was a huge fan of Gove, and ditching him to pander to a group of leftie teachers that would never have voted Tory anyway was not clever, and symptomatic of Camerons whole approach, like ditching traditional Tory voters to pander to Guardian reader, who similarly would never vote Tory, he never seems to miss an opportunity to either make a pledge he is conspicuously not able to keep, or alienate a group of Tory voters to purse a group of other voters who would never vote Tory.
The polling evidence is the so-called lefty teachers did mostly vote Tory in 2010. That shows up the problem with Gove: he managed to alienate the people who were on his side. To the extent politics is about building alliances, he was a lousy politician.
'Your area', is Oligarch Central, one of the most expensive parts of London, not Suburbia.
I'd rather see a Stamp Duty increase for the filthy rich, than a Mansion Tax on Granny, wouldn't you?
Actually, no. I'd rather see all property taxed at a flat percentage, with no silly bands.
I'd probably build in a system whereby they are based on last transacted value + a fixed RPI measure to protect the grannies.
But it should be introduced by the Tories, so they can use the proceeds to abolish more economically damaging taxes rather than Labour who will just piss it up the wall
It's convenient for the American School in St John's Wood. You can take the Jubilee or Metropolitan lines from Finchley Road to the City or the West End. There's a large green space around here too.
Oh yes, and there are plenty of immigrants, so your wife will fit right in.
Our daughter's school is in Notting Hill, but we are thinking about St. John's Wood once she goes to the American school.
It's convenient for the American School in St John's Wood. You can take the Jubilee or Metropolitan lines from Finchley Road to the City or the West End. There's a large green space around here too.
Oh yes, and there are plenty of immigrants, so your wife will fit right in.
Our daughter's school is in Notting Hill, but we are thinking about St. John's Wood once she goes to the American school.
We have a lot of friends whose kids go there. They all seem to like it.
I love St Johns Wood - great for the cricket, good public transport, nice houses. But the place seems to have a lot less community than Hampstead, and the high street lacks charm (although it does have a Caroline Charles, I believe).
It's convenient for the American School in St John's Wood. You can take the Jubilee or Metropolitan lines from Finchley Road to the City or the West End. There's a large green space around here too.
Oh yes, and there are plenty of immigrants, so your wife will fit right in.
Our daughter's school is in Notting Hill, but we are thinking about St. John's Wood once she goes to the American school.
I'd like to see the American version of Jane Cameron.
It's convenient for the American School in St John's Wood. You can take the Jubilee or Metropolitan lines from Finchley Road to the City or the West End. There's a large green space around here too.
Oh yes, and there are plenty of immigrants, so your wife will fit right in.
Our daughter's school is in Notting Hill, but we are thinking about St. John's Wood once she goes to the American school.
We have a lot of friends whose kids go there. They all seem to like it.
I love St Johns Wood - great for the cricket, good public transport, nice houses. But the place seems to have a lot less community than Hampstead, and the high street lacks charm (although it does have a Caroline Charles, I believe).
It's a few years away, yet, so haven't really thought about it.
But Hampstead is always quite nice - my uncle used to live there - but a nightmare for traffic I thought.
Damn. I clicked on the link and now, when I am trying to complete my online shopping at Lidl, I will have multi-million pound Kensington houses flashing up for sale on my computer.
LOL. I bought a washing machine online and was plagued with adverts for them for over a month.
erm, have i got this right - those massive footballers mansions that cost £50m or whatever, just lost ~11% of their value in the past hour?
I can see a few very rich people sending money ukips way...
Wot! They are so upset at having to spend more money (possibly) they are going to throw even more money away? But don't worry - ''some death taxes will be abolished''.
It's convenient for the American School in St John's Wood. You can take the Jubilee or Metropolitan lines from Finchley Road to the City or the West End. There's a large green space around here too.
Oh yes, and there are plenty of immigrants, so your wife will fit right in.
Our daughter's school is in Notting Hill, but we are thinking about St. John's Wood once she goes to the American school.
We have a lot of friends whose kids go there. They all seem to like it.
I love St Johns Wood - great for the cricket, good public transport, nice houses. But the place seems to have a lot less community than Hampstead, and the high street lacks charm (although it does have a Caroline Charles, I believe).
It's a few years away, yet, so haven't really thought about it.
But Hampstead is always quite nice - my uncle used to live there - but a nightmare for traffic I thought.
Ed Balls to have to shout to be heard, turning him into the crimson king. 3 points Harriet Harman to look like she's in desperate need of fibre in her diet whilst Balls is replying 2 points Camera to focus on Nick Clegg when the token Lib Dem measure is announced & Nick looking pleased with himself 1 point Gushing front page from the Daily Mail tommorow 1 point Gushing front page from the Sun tommorow 1 point George to announce increase in minimum wage 2 points Ed Balls' reply to be derided on this forum 1 point @TheScreamingEagles to announce this is Labour's Zama, or some other similiar historical reference 3 points TGOHF to mock Ed Balls' reply to the house 2 points @TSE to announce a 1-10 value on 4 specific words being used as "value" 1 point (Already in) One of the PB conservatives to announce this as a terrible day for Labour 1 point BenM to state that Osborne's statement is a crock of shit 2 points Alan Brooke to complain that Osborne has not done enough/anything for small business/manufacturing 2 points Seth/ALP to return and say "By George he's done it" (Or words to those effect) 50 points
Iain Anderson @iain_w_anderson 2m2 minutes ago Interesting @dannyalexander commits to Stamp Duty AND Mansion Tax in Lib Dem manifesto #AutumnStatement
If it works the biggest item in the budget really ought to be the new tax on multinationals. I will be fascinated to see in due course what the Treasury thinks that will bring in. It will also be interesting to see whether all the larger economies in the EU and indeed beyond follow suit. I would be amazed if this has come out of the blue and not been discussed at the G7.
Luxembourg may start to discover what austerity means.
We walked around Hampstead the other day. Wouldn't want to live there, but the Leverhulme pergola and garden floated my boat. I look forward to following it through the seasons. The botanical garden in Cambridge is a jewel as well..
These are the bashed rich who have had a 5% reduction in the top rate of tax? Is poor Staines worried he might not be able to stash his cash away in Ireland?
If it works the biggest item in the budget really ought to be the new tax on multinationals. I will be fascinated to see in due course what the Treasury thinks that will bring in. It will also be interesting to see whether all the larger economies in the EU and indeed beyond follow suit. I would be amazed if this has come out of the blue and not been discussed at the G7.
Luxembourg may start to discover what austerity means.
If it works the biggest item in the budget really ought to be the new tax on multinationals. I will be fascinated to see in due course what the Treasury thinks that will bring in. It will also be interesting to see whether all the larger economies in the EU and indeed beyond follow suit. I would be amazed if this has come out of the blue and not been discussed at the G7.
Luxembourg may start to discover what austerity means.
Good.
The idea of tax based upon place of consumer has just come into force for gambling companies operating in the UK i.e it doesn't matter if they are in Gibraltar or Isle of Man now, if they want to trade in the UK, they have to get a license and they to pay tax as a % of revenue generated by UK players.
It seems to me that as we have become ever more globalized, the notion of where a company is located for tax purposes is becoming ever more redundant. The only other way to base things is upon where a customer is located, as they can't just up and leave very easily.
US has been wrestling with this for online shopping, as each state has vastly different sales taxes. It was ok when you had to go into a physical store, but now with the internet you could be buying from anywhere in the US or the world.
New announcement: the amount of profit in established banks that can be offset by losses carried forward will be limited to 50%, and relief on bad debts delayed. That means banks should contribute almost £4 billion more in tax over the next five years.
It's convenient for the American School in St John's Wood. You can take the Jubilee or Metropolitan lines from Finchley Road to the City or the West End. There's a large green space around here too.
Oh yes, and there are plenty of immigrants, so your wife will fit right in.
Our daughter's school is in Notting Hill, but we are thinking about St. John's Wood once she goes to the American school.
We have a lot of friends whose kids go there. They all seem to like it.
I love St Johns Wood - great for the cricket, good public transport, nice houses. But the place seems to have a lot less community than Hampstead, and the high street lacks charm (although it does have a Caroline Charles, I believe).
It's a few years away, yet, so haven't really thought about it.
But Hampstead is always quite nice - my uncle used to live there - but a nightmare for traffic I thought.
The only deal my Dad regrets: we had a place with a half acre garden in Kensington that we could have kept (it would have been a stretch though) but he was conservative and so sold to Freddie Mercury rather than hang on to it when we moved to the country
Ed Balls @edballsmp·9m9 minutes ago Tory borrowing plans are in tatters: in this parliament they will have borrowed £219bn more than they planned in 2010 #AS2014
New announcement: the amount of profit in established banks that can be offset by losses carried forward will be limited to 50%, and relief on bad debts delayed. That means banks should contribute almost £4 billion more in tax over the next five years.
New announcement: the amount of profit in established banks that can be offset by losses carried forward will be limited to 50%, and relief on bad debts delayed. That means banks should contribute almost £4 billion more in tax over the next five years.
Ed Balls @edballsmp·9m9 minutes ago Tory borrowing plans are in tatters: in this parliament they will have borrowed £219bn more than they planned in 2010 #AS2014
Ed Balls @edballsmp·9m9 minutes ago Tory borrowing plans are in tatters: in this parliament they will have borrowed £219bn more than they planned in 2010 #AS2014
Darling had to borrow half a trillion more between his budgets!
Damn. I clicked on the link and now, when I am trying to complete my online shopping at Lidl, I will have multi-million pound Kensington houses flashing up for sale on my computer.
LOL. I bought a washing machine online and was plagued with adverts for them for over a month.
Someone once complained to OGH that his site really shouldn't have ads for Roumanians mail order brides....and then disappeared after it was pointed out why he was seeing them.
Ed Balls @edballsmp·9m9 minutes ago Tory borrowing plans are in tatters: in this parliament they will have borrowed £219bn more than they planned in 2010 #AS2014
For God's sake. What point do Labour think they're making when they say the Tories haven't been Tory enough on cutting the deficit?
If it works the biggest item in the budget really ought to be the new tax on multinationals. I will be fascinated to see in due course what the Treasury thinks that will bring in. It will also be interesting to see whether all the larger economies in the EU and indeed beyond follow suit. I would be amazed if this has come out of the blue and not been discussed at the G7.
Luxembourg may start to discover what austerity means.
Good.
The idea of tax based upon place of consumer has just come into force for gambling companies operating in the UK i.e it doesn't matter if they are in Gibraltar or Isle of Man now, if they want to trade in the UK, they have to get a license and they to pay tax as a % of revenue generated by UK players.
It seems to me that as we have become ever more globalized, the notion of where a company is located for tax purposes is becoming ever more redundant. The only other way to base things is upon where a customer is located, as they can't just up and leave very easily.
US has been wrestling with this for online shopping, as each state has vastly different sales taxes. It was ok when you had to go into a physical store, but now with the internet you could be buying from anywhere in the US or the world.
I think it is an excellent idea albeit there will undoubtedly be complications in practice. The fact is that multinationals have been taking not just us but all medium and larger sized countries for a ride for decades and this looks like the first time someone has tried to do something substantial about it.
Maybe something good can come out of a horrendous deficit after all.
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How many over 900k properties change hands in a week ?
Just got £250,000 more expensive.
Thanks George.
Full on tactic to hope that UKIP get Ed in.
Most interesting though is the fairly bullish deficit reduction projection. Do we believe it?
But the point is that "Boris" is his public name and "Alexander" his private one
But that's his choice and should be respected, like Osborne, Brown (?) and Aker
I can see a few very rich people sending money ukips way...
We could find a long list of tories who have changed their minds - starting with confirmed right winger Michael Howard. ''...I thought, rightly or wrongly, that there was a problem in those days. That problem simply doesn't exist now. Nobody's fussed about those issues any more. It's not a problem, so the law shouldn't be hanging around on the statute book''.
Whats significant is that you have a hang up and still obsess about the issue and clearly want to discriminate against homosexuals. UKIP is a repository for the prejudiced.
If memory serves, Osborne and Boris rebelled.
This is really a tax on foreign buyers of prime London property.
And anyone who wants a two bedroom flat in Hampstead.
Anyway, I find it remarkable that someone with a stutter problem can speak in public, let alone the House.
I am not sure Labour's mansion tax would put them off either, but those already in their homes and cash poor would get stung under Labour's plans.
I wonder if LibDems actually appreciate the benefits of that not happening?
(But £5m - assuming I've got my numbers right! - will buy a fairly basic house with a patch of garden in my area)
Here's a good example: £5m. 2,500 sq foot. 4bed, 3 bath + garage. South of the High Street (so less smart) and next to a railway line.
http://www.primelocation.com/for-sale/details/33637505?search_identifier=5ff527aebb70607e2eb13466b69042bc#T0OZFTmWTHpu07c7.97
So a £50m mansion only lost ~£2.5m in value.
Small change...
Osborne: He's my plan for the economy, jobs, work, deficits and debts. It's working so far.
Balls: But you're going to need a plan for that.
Everyone else: WTF?
http://www.primelocation.com/for-sale/details/32815661
Under George they only have to pay once - under Labour they would be hammered every year - Tories always pandering to the rich.
Sheesh, thanks George!
(of course I knew this in advance - I'm just whinging...and making the point that taxes have gone up significantly on the richest in the country, while they haven't benefited from things like the increase in the personal allowance)
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2003/mar/11/conservatives.uk
They aren't the sort of places that if you can go down the road and find an identical place. It like compares a painting from Ikea to one by a great artist. One has basically a market price, the other is worth whatever people will pay for their dream.
Properly rich people don't move or sell their houses/estates. Tbh they should be the only ones allowed that sort of money, Lord and Lady Chatsworth's property is a joy to visit, I don't see cross country eventing around Wayne Rooney's manor
None at all.
I'd rather see a Stamp Duty increase for the filthy rich, than a Mansion Tax on Granny, wouldn't you?
It's convenient for the American School in St John's Wood. You can take the Jubilee or Metropolitan lines from Finchley Road to the City or the West End. There's a large green space around here too.
Oh yes, and there are plenty of immigrants, so your wife will fit right in.
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/382327/44695_Accessible.pdf
http://m.primelocation.com/#/for-sale/details/30462121
Guido Fawkes @GuidoFawkes 27s28 seconds ago
Another "bash the rich" budget from #ContinuityBrown
Guido Fawkes @GuidoFawkes 3m3 minutes ago
New stamp duty bands: http://order-order.com/2014/12/03/in-numbers-stamp-duty-savings-explained/ …
(do they do online shopping - thought they didn't. If they do, I'd happily switch to them!)
http://www.economist.com/news/britain/21621847-stamp-duty-receipts-are-booming-they-are-heavily-concentrated-london-weighting
The Mansion Tax proposed by Ed and Vince is high grade organic bullshit. Symbolic but ineffectual at raising large amounts. But Osborne could have index linked the stamp duty rates a while ago.
I'd probably build in a system whereby they are based on last transacted value + a fixed RPI measure to protect the grannies.
But it should be introduced by the Tories, so they can use the proceeds to abolish more economically damaging taxes rather than Labour who will just piss it up the wall
I love St Johns Wood - great for the cricket, good public transport, nice houses.
But the place seems to have a lot less community than Hampstead, and the high street lacks charm (although it does have a Caroline Charles, I believe).
But Hampstead is always quite nice - my uncle used to live there - but a nightmare for traffic I thought.
Hmmh. This one looks nice ;-)
http://www.primelocation.com/for-sale/details/34401578#kbbtySxBi7Mqhx7j.97
£2 million
6 cottages
An annual income of over £40,000 from assured tenancies on the cottages
91,1 acres
Jesus Christ !
But don't worry - ''some death taxes will be abolished''.
Christ talk about paying through the nose !
Rest of it... I was going to post a knee jerk trashing!
But I'll take some time to review.
@faisalislam: We report live from a Chester estate agent... Where housebuyer has been told about £4k stamp duty cut... "Means a new bathroom"
Harriet Harman to look like she's in desperate need of fibre in her diet whilst Balls is replying 2 points
Camera to focus on Nick Clegg when the token Lib Dem measure is announced & Nick looking pleased with himself 1 point
Gushing front page from the Daily Mail tommorow 1 point
Gushing front page from the Sun tommorow 1 point
George to announce increase in minimum wage 2 points
Ed Balls' reply to be derided on this forum 1 point
@TheScreamingEagles to announce this is Labour's Zama, or some other similiar historical reference 3 points
TGOHF to mock Ed Balls' reply to the house 2 points
@TSE to announce a 1-10 value on 4 specific words being used as "value" 1 point (Already in)
One of the PB conservatives to announce this as a terrible day for Labour 1 point
BenM to state that Osborne's statement is a crock of shit 2 points
Alan Brooke to complain that Osborne has not done enough/anything for small business/manufacturing 2 points
Seth/ALP to return and say "By George he's done it" (Or words to those effect) 50 points
@BenM You'll make me miss out on the bingo card:
Someone tot up the points.
Will the SNP be huffing when sales of high value houses get rushed through before the spring thus denying the SNP revenue ? Titter.
Interesting @dannyalexander commits to Stamp Duty AND Mansion Tax in Lib Dem manifesto #AutumnStatement
Now that'd be costly for mansion buyers.
Luxembourg may start to discover what austerity means.
Good.
It seems to me that as we have become ever more globalized, the notion of where a company is located for tax purposes is becoming ever more redundant. The only other way to base things is upon where a customer is located, as they can't just up and leave very easily.
US has been wrestling with this for online shopping, as each state has vastly different sales taxes. It was ok when you had to go into a physical store, but now with the internet you could be buying from anywhere in the US or the world.
Tory borrowing plans are in tatters: in this parliament they will have borrowed £219bn more than they planned in 2010 #AS2014
Maybe something good can come out of a horrendous deficit after all.