Not too many surprises in the Con-LD battleground. Two observations: -John Hemmings has the mother of all incumbency boosts. -Conservatives unchanged in Watford since last poll, the LD selection has tore into Labour share.
Only Party leader to retain/gain seat would be Cameron ???
Cameron is the safest Then Ed Then Nick (But not 1-3 safe) Nigel is a 3 way coin flip and is the worst value in the betting markets at a ridiculous 4-11.
Not too many surprises in the Con-LD battleground. Two observations: -John Hemmings has the mother of all incumbency boosts. -Conservatives unchanged in Watford since last poll, the LD selection has tore into Labour share.
IMO Yardley could be the only constituency in the country where the LD share rises.
Only Party leader to retain/gain seat would be Cameron ???
Cameron is the safest Then Ed Then Nick (But not 1-3 safe) Nigel is a 3 way coin flip and is the worst value in the betting markets at a ridiculous 4-11.
Yes a complete overreaction on my part. I think Ed and Nick will be OK. After the election can Farage remain as UKIP leader if Carswell and a couple of other UKIPers get elected as MPs and he doesn't?
Only Party leader to retain/gain seat would be Cameron ???
Cameron is the safest Then Ed Then Nick (But not 1-3 safe) Nigel is a 3 way coin flip and is the worst value in the betting markets at a ridiculous 4-11.
The only thing to say about Witney is that it was surprising how close Labour got to winning it in 1997 and 2001, about 7,000 votes on each occasion.
The Wyre Forest poll needs to be treated with caution. Lord Ashcroft has apparently not prompted for NHA (curiously, he did prompt for Plaid Cymru in Brecon & Radnorshire where Plaid have no particular history of support), so Dr Richard Taylor's personal vote in this seat may well be understated. I write as someone sitting on a 25/1 bet on UKIP in this constituency.
UKIP in the lead in Thanet South until weighting by 2010 vote is applied
Farage wasn't the candidate then, and UKIP got 3% of the vote Nationally in 2010. If you think that is of no significance/that he might be a drag on the UKIP vote rather than a boost for it then I guess you could back the Tories
Surprising about Farage. If he can't get elected, then I suspect many of UKIP's other targets will also fail to fall.
Can UKIP ever win a parliamentary seat when their candidate isn't a traitorous pig dog?
Carswell is going to cut a lonely figure in the next Parliament..... Sitting uncomfortably with the Labour opposition as the sole representative of the Misguided Pig-Dog Traitor Can I Come Back Yet Dave? Party
UKIP in the lead in Thanet South until weighting by 2010 vote is applied
Farage wasn't the candidate then, and UKIP got 3% of the vote Nationally in 2010. If you think that is of no significance/that he might be a drag on the UKIP vote rather than a boost for it then I guess you could back the Tories
Cameron leads Farage on the best PM question in this seat. I'm not saying its impossible for Farage to win it but the current odds are 4-11 UKIP; 9-2 Con.
UKIP in the lead in Thanet South until weighting by 2010 vote is applied
Farage wasn't the candidate then, and UKIP got 3% of the vote Nationally in 2010. If you think that is of no significance/that he might be a drag on the UKIP vote rather than a boost for it then I guess you could back the Tories
Cameron leads Farage on the best PM question in this seat. I'm not saying its impossible for Farage to win it but the current odds are 4-11 UKIP; 9-2 Con.
It's a no brainer.
Since Farage can't be, and in any case doesn't want to be PM, this is hardly a revelation.
One important point to note if I am reading the polls correctly is that whilst the "your constituency" question is polled the candidates names are not. This will have an effect in many of these seats especially Watford.
The Wyre Forest poll needs to be treated with caution. Lord Ashcroft has apparently not prompted for NHA (curiously, he did prompt for Plaid Cymru in Brecon & Radnorshire where Plaid have no particular history of support), so Dr Richard Taylor's personal vote in this seat may well be understated. I write as someone sitting on a 25/1 bet on UKIP in this constituency.
IIRC UKIP were ahead in the local elections either this or last year.
Surprising about Farage. If he can't get elected, then I suspect many of UKIP's other targets will also fail to fall.
Can UKIP ever win a parliamentary seat when their candidate isn't a traitorous pig dog?
Carswell is going to cut a lonely figure in the next Parliament..... Sitting uncomfortably with the Labour opposition as the sole representative of the Misguided Pig-Dog Traitor Can I Come Back Yet Dave? Party
Meanwhile, Forage will be crying all the way to the bank, with his EU allowances.
I can't believe they proposed it. Really. It is clearly for me the most headline worthy part of the whole Smith Commission. I hope Dave thanks them for their work and just leaves the ability to borrow out of the legislation. It is batshit crazy to let Scotland borrow independently, knowing ful lwell England will be obliged to backstop the loans. It makes final independnce a certainty in my view now. WTF were they thinking?
Scotland is already getting borrowing powers independent of the Smith Commission under the 2012 Scotland Act.
Given that the Scottish government under-spends its budget every year its not that note worthy.
This won't do UKIP any harm in places like Doncaster North:
"Net migration hits 260,000 in new blow for Government pledge Surge of 78,000 year-on-year driven by eastern European migrants after ministers admit promise to cut net migration has been 'blown off course'"
The betting story here is that LDs are hanging tough in LD/Con marginals, but less so in LD/Lab marginals. This will make it very difficult for the Tories to win an overall majority.
NOM looks increasingly likely. Even at 1/2, it's probably still the value bet.
To my surprise, I find myself buying LD on the seats spreads.
On Twitter OGH claiming the new Ashcroft poll indicates Tories going to struggle to win lots of LibDem seats. Only problem for his argument is this group of seats start at 9+% majorities and Tories still taking 2 of them on basis of this poll. Implies the 12 or 15 which would go Tory in earlier polls definitely going Tory.
If Farage can't be ahead now after Clacton and Rochester in his chosen seat, Laura Sandys is correct, he will remain an MEP on 8th May. Carswell to be UKIP leader by June?
The betting story here is that LDs are hanging tough in LD/Con marginals, but less so in LD/Lab marginals. This will make it very difficult for the Tories to win an overall majority.
NOM looks increasingly likely. Even at 1/2, it's probably still the value bet.
To my surprise, I find myself buying LD on the seats spreads.
Buying the Lib Dems was my first choice when Spin opened the market.
NOM is a 90% certainty IMO. The only way a majority could happen is through a series of statistical flukes, with one party winning loads of seats with 30%.
On Twitter OGH claiming the new Ashcroft poll indicates Tories going to struggle to win lots of LibDem seats. Only problem for his argument is this group of seats start at 9+% majorities and Tories still taking 2 of them on basis of this poll. Implies the 12 or 15 which would go Tory in earlier polls definitely going Tory.
If Farage can't be ahead now after Clacton and Rochester in his chosen seat, Laura Sandys is correct, he will remain an MEP on 8th May. Carswell to be UKIP leader by June?
It implies nothing of the sort , stick to your ludicrous forecasts of Conservative mass gains in Scotland .
Not wanting to doubt the figures, but can someone explain why the constituency question makes such a difference? I get why a Labour voter would vote Lib Dem (though that is questionable!), but I don't get why someone saying they'd vote Tory in a standard question would then switch to the Lib Dems in a constituency question?
I might be being a bit thick here, but do these people understand that by voting Lib Dem instead of Tory they may prevent a Tory majority? Or do they love their local Lib Dem MP that much?
Confirming the May local election results here and in Sutton/Cheam and the Lord A poll in the latter
I've often thought both Sutton seats are the sort of places where UKIP takes most of its votes from Tories in contrast to other parts of the country like the south west where there's much more of an even divide.
Not wanting to doubt the figures, but can someone explain why the constituency question makes such a difference? I get why a Labour voter would vote Lib Dem (though that is questionable!), but I don't get why someone saying they'd vote Tory in a standard question would then switch to the Lib Dems in a constituency question?
I might be being a bit thick here, but do these people understand that by voting Lib Dem instead of Tory they may prevent a Tory majority? Or do they love their local Lib Dem MP that much?
Bit odd isn't it, the Labour vote share barely changes in alot of these "sticky" LD seats.
The betting story here is that LDs are hanging tough in LD/Con marginals, but less so in LD/Lab marginals. This will make it very difficult for the Tories to win an overall majority.
NOM looks increasingly likely. Even at 1/2, it's probably still the value bet.
To my surprise, I find myself buying LD on the seats spreads.
Pretty much agree , tho I think Yardley , Cambridge and Bermondsey/Southwark and Cardiff Central will be LD holds against Labour . I am sticking with my 36-40 LD seats after next May .
The Wyre Forest poll needs to be treated with caution. Lord Ashcroft has apparently not prompted for NHA (curiously, he did prompt for Plaid Cymru in Brecon & Radnorshire where Plaid have no particular history of support), so Dr Richard Taylor's personal vote in this seat may well be understated. I write as someone sitting on a 25/1 bet on UKIP in this constituency.
IIRC UKIP were ahead in the local elections either this or last year.
They did very well in both years. That's why I backed them at 25/1!
Having been asked how they will vote, why do so many apparently change their minds when asked about their own constituency? When they get to the ballot box they will most likely vote for their first preference. The second question is largely bollocks. Nobody will be asking it when they get to the polling station.
Dan Hodges@DPJHodges·54 secs55 seconds ago London, England I reckon @DouglasCarswell is the only Kipper with any chance of being an MP after 2015. And at that point he'll defect back.
On Twitter OGH claiming the new Ashcroft poll indicates Tories going to struggle to win lots of LibDem seats. Only problem for his argument is this group of seats start at 9+% majorities and Tories still taking 2 of them on basis of this poll. Implies the 12 or 15 which would go Tory in earlier polls definitely going Tory.
If Farage can't be ahead now after Clacton and Rochester in his chosen seat, Laura Sandys is correct, he will remain an MEP on 8th May. Carswell to be UKIP leader by June?
Yes, these polls tell me the Tories will make 7-9 gains from the Lib Dems rather than 14-16. But we'll see about the rest. These are some of the strongest Lib Dem seats.
Dan Hodges@DPJHodges·54 secs55 seconds ago London, England I reckon @DouglasCarswell is the only Kipper with any chance of being an MP after 2015. And at that point he'll defect back.
Is Dan wanting to offer evens on Boston & Skeggy ?
Not good polling for the Tories I guess, but did they ever expect to take LD seats with majorities of 6k plus? I bet they were all former Tory seats and now most of the Lib Dem MPs are well dug in
Having been asked how they will vote, why do so many apparently change their minds when asked about their own constituency? When they get to the ballot box they will most likely vote for their first preference. The second question is largely bollocks. Nobody will be asking it when they get to the polling station.
It helps respondents do some of the thinking they haven't already done but will do before they get to cast their vote.
The really startling thing about this poll is the GIGANTIC differences between Q1 (how will you vote?) and Q2 (how will you vote, thinking about this constituency?). The differences shown previously in Tory and Labour seats were modest, and not always to the incumbent. Here, Q2 completely changes the picture.
Which just leaves a little niggle. If people are that set on voting tactically, why don't they say so in reply to Q1? That suggests that most people are just responding without thinking about the constituency, and it's only when that aspect is prompted for that they think oh, yeah, well, if you put it like that... The LibDems still have a bit of work to do in hardening up the intention.
Incidentally, I chatted to John Hemmings (Yardley) at the LibDem conference (we're bridge partners). He was cautiously hopeful though he said it was really impossible to be sure.
Dan Hodges@DPJHodges·54 secs55 seconds ago London, England I reckon @DouglasCarswell is the only Kipper with any chance of being an MP after 2015. And at that point he'll defect back.
Tories struggling in one of their top target seats north of the border. With Jim Murphy retiring from Westminster in May the Tories really ought to have been a shoo-in. Before Murphy's appearance in the constituency it used to reliably return thumping Tory majorities.
East Renfrewshire - Result 2010
Lab (Jim Murphy MP) 25,987 Con 15,567 LD 4,720 SNP 4,535 UKIP 372
Dan Hodges@DPJHodges·54 secs55 seconds ago London, England I reckon @DouglasCarswell is the only Kipper with any chance of being an MP after 2015. And at that point he'll defect back.
What are the odds on a single Kipper MP ?
20-1 or so and I'd be on it like a hooker on a phallus that emitted a brewed beverage to paraphrase Irvine Welsh.
The betting story here is that LDs are hanging tough in LD/Con marginals, but less so in LD/Lab marginals. This will make it very difficult for the Tories to win an overall majority.
NOM looks increasingly likely. Even at 1/2, it's probably still the value bet.
To my surprise, I find myself buying LD on the seats spreads.
Pretty much agree , tho I think Yardley , Cambridge and Bermondsey/Southwark and Cardiff Central will be LD holds against Labour . I am sticking with my 36-40 LD seats after next May .
Mark, as a political tipster I have you only marginally ahead of Roger and the hapless Seth O Logue.
One important point to note if I am reading the polls correctly is that whilst the "your constituency" question is polled the candidates names are not. This will have an effect in many of these seats especially Watford.
Well said Jack. Your money is safe.
Would Farage's name helped or hindered UKIP figures in Thanet S?
The betting story here is that LDs are hanging tough in LD/Con marginals, but less so in LD/Lab marginals. This will make it very difficult for the Tories to win an overall majority.
NOM looks increasingly likely. Even at 1/2, it's probably still the value bet.
To my surprise, I find myself buying LD on the seats spreads.
Pretty much agree , tho I think Yardley , Cambridge and Bermondsey/Southwark and Cardiff Central will be LD holds against Labour . I am sticking with my 36-40 LD seats after next May .
Cambridge Huppert hold is free money and is better than evens. The Labour candidate is atrocious and finished a poor 3rd last time.
The really startling thing about this poll is the GIGANTIC differences between Q1 (how will you vote?) and Q2 (how will you vote, thinking about this constituency?). The differences shown previously in Tory and Labour seats were modest, and not always to the incumbent. Here, Q2 completely changes the picture.
Which just leaves a little niggle. If people are that set on voting tactically, why don't they say so in reply to Q1? That suggests that most people are just responding without thinking about the constituency, and it's only when that aspect is prompted for that they think oh, yeah, well, if you put it like that... The LibDems still have a bit of work to do in hardening up the intention.
Incidentally, I chatted to John Hemmings (Yardley) at the LibDem conference (we're bridge partners). He was cautiously hopeful though he said it was really impossible to be sure.
I have taken up bridge again after a 35 year gap , I play online at Bridgeclublive , really enjoying it .
UKIP in the lead in Thanet South until weighting by 2010 vote is applied
Farage wasn't the candidate then, and UKIP got 3% of the vote Nationally in 2010. If you think that is of no significance/that he might be a drag on the UKIP vote rather than a boost for it then I guess you could back the Tories
Exactly the same weighting adjustment was made in Lord A's Rochester poll and still it overstated UKIP by 5%.
One important point to note if I am reading the polls correctly is that whilst the "your constituency" question is polled the candidates names are not. This will have an effect in many of these seats especially Watford.
Well said Jack. Your money is safe.
Would Farage's name helped or hindered UKIP figures in Thanet S?
Have to admit John Hemmings must be doing a stunning job in Yardley.
He's very busy round these parts, I do work in the constituency (leaflets with little or no Lib Dem branding ofc). A lot of people who don't pay much attention to politics will just notice a diligent MP putting in the hours, not a horrible Lib Dem that has propped up a Tory government
The betting story here is that LDs are hanging tough in LD/Con marginals, but less so in LD/Lab marginals. This will make it very difficult for the Tories to win an overall majority.
NOM looks increasingly likely. Even at 1/2, it's probably still the value bet.
To my surprise, I find myself buying LD on the seats spreads.
Pretty much agree , tho I think Yardley , Cambridge and Bermondsey/Southwark and Cardiff Central will be LD holds against Labour . I am sticking with my 36-40 LD seats after next May .
Mark, as a political tipster I have you only marginally ahead of Roger and the hapless Seth O Logue.
But for once I agree with you! ;-)
LOL , check my record back to pb.com's first competition on here at the Cheadle by election in 2005 sadly no prize for first in those days .
One important point to note if I am reading the polls correctly is that whilst the "your constituency" question is polled the candidates names are not. This will have an effect in many of these seats especially Watford.
Well said Jack. Your money is safe.
Would Farage's name helped or hindered UKIP figures in Thanet S?
Both (Kind of) I think Labour will vote BOTH anti-Farage and anti-Con in Thanet South.
The really startling thing about this poll is the GIGANTIC differences between Q1 (how will you vote?) and Q2 (how will you vote, thinking about this constituency?). The differences shown previously in Tory and Labour seats were modest, and not always to the incumbent. Here, Q2 completely changes the picture.
Which just leaves a little niggle. If people are that set on voting tactically, why don't they say so in reply to Q1? That suggests that most people are just responding without thinking about the constituency, and it's only when that aspect is prompted for that they think oh, yeah, well, if you put it like that...
Or they feel that the 'right' thing to do is to give a different answer.
I'm sceptical about this whole issue - we just don't know enough to be able say definitively that Q2 is a better guide to the final result than Q1. It might be, but we can't be sure.
Equally it is hard to know how much credence to give to the different swings in different seats. By the time you factor in statistical noise and weighting difficulties, the differences might not be very reliable at all.
One important point to note if I am reading the polls correctly is that whilst the "your constituency" question is polled the candidates names are not. This will have an effect in many of these seats especially Watford.
Well said Jack. Your money is safe.
Would Farage's name helped or hindered UKIP figures in Thanet S?
Those revelling at the prospect of Farage's demise in Thanet South may still be disappointed.
Constituents like having leaders as their MP and Farage will enjoy even greater prominence during the election and the media will focus heavily on the seat. Ukip will also pour resources into the seat. However a cross current will be tactical voting against him.
On balance I believe Farage is favourite to win the seat.
The betting story here is that LDs are hanging tough in LD/Con marginals, but less so in LD/Lab marginals. This will make it very difficult for the Tories to win an overall majority.
NOM looks increasingly likely. Even at 1/2, it's probably still the value bet.
To my surprise, I find myself buying LD on the seats spreads.
Pretty much agree , tho I think Yardley , Cambridge and Bermondsey/Southwark and Cardiff Central will be LD holds against Labour . I am sticking with my 36-40 LD seats after next May .
Mark, as a political tipster I have you only marginally ahead of Roger and the hapless Seth O Logue.
But for once I agree with you! ;-)
LOL , check my record back to pb.com's first competition on here at the Cheadle by election in 2005 sadly no prize for first in those days .
No prizes for having a sense of humour too, Mark!
If there were, you'd have several by now. Well done.
One important point to note if I am reading the polls correctly is that whilst the "your constituency" question is polled the candidates names are not. This will have an effect in many of these seats especially Watford.
Well said Jack. Your money is safe.
Would Farage's name helped or hindered UKIP figures in Thanet S?
Those revelling at the prospect of Farage's demise in Thanet South may still be disappointed.
Constituents like having leaders as their MP and Farage will enjoy even greater prominence during the election and the media will focus heavily on the seat. Ukip will also pour resources into the seat. However a cross current will be tactical voting against him.
On balance I believe Farage is favourite to win the seat.
UKIP in the lead in Thanet South until weighting by 2010 vote is applied
Farage wasn't the candidate then, and UKIP got 3% of the vote Nationally in 2010. If you think that is of no significance/that he might be a drag on the UKIP vote rather than a boost for it then I guess you could back the Tories
Exactly the same weighting adjustment was made in Lord A's Rochester poll and still it overstated UKIP by 5%.
Dream on. You are in trouble.
I do agree with you Mike on this (and actually on much). I've always thought UKIP are flattering to deceive under FPTP and that the LibDems will outperform current expectations when it comes to seats: they always do. My bet with Isam that LD will win 4x the seats of UKIP looks good from this.
However, I still want to take all this with a bit of a pinch of salt. I'd like to see Ashcroft repeat the same polling month on month so we have a point of reference. Then we can spot trends. This feels too much like pinning a tail on the donkey.
UKIP in the lead in Thanet South until weighting by 2010 vote is applied
Farage wasn't the candidate then, and UKIP got 3% of the vote Nationally in 2010. If you think that is of no significance/that he might be a drag on the UKIP vote rather than a boost for it then I guess you could back the Tories
Exactly the same weighting adjustment was made in Lord A's Rochester poll and still it overstated UKIP by 5%.
Dream on. You are in trouble.
Ah Mike. So aggressive when it comes to UKIP
What are the changes from the last Lord Ashcroft poll of the constituency?
- Clegg down 22% in his own constituency with Lab up 12%. Might need to launch a charm offensive on the Hallam Tories to tactically vote for him - Miliband's score is hardly a ringing endorsement - down 7% on 2010. Must give UKIP hope in the other 2 Doncaster seats, which are better for them - Farage will be disappointed, although hasn't been the candidate that long. Will need to work the seat hard in the run up to the GE
The betting story here is that LDs are hanging tough in LD/Con marginals, but less so in LD/Lab marginals. This will make it very difficult for the Tories to win an overall majority.
NOM looks increasingly likely. Even at 1/2, it's probably still the value bet.
To my surprise, I find myself buying LD on the seats spreads.
Pretty much agree , tho I think Yardley , Cambridge and Bermondsey/Southwark and Cardiff Central will be LD holds against Labour . I am sticking with my 36-40 LD seats after next May .
Cambridge Huppert hold is free money and is better than evens. The Labour candidate is atrocious and finished a poor 3rd last time.
I'm sold.
Cambridge isn't the north of England, and Huppert seems like the sort of MP red liberals will have no problem at all voting for. In addition yes I note the Labour bloke finished behind the Cons last time...
When you get to the polling station they don't ask you question 2. Those who are going to vote tactically will already know that so why would they then answer question 1 differently. It's almost as if some of those polled feel they are being asked to give a different answer.
Dan Hodges@DPJHodges·54 secs55 seconds ago London, England I reckon @DouglasCarswell is the only Kipper with any chance of being an MP after 2015. And at that point he'll defect back.
He can stay where he is.
I don't want him back.
Well exactly. If his performance hitherto and especially at PMQ is anything to go by I would prefer my PPCs and MPs to have at least some kind of backbone.
Edit: I got the wrong Kipper MP. My bad and it was a 50:50 call. Still, they can keep them both.
One important point to note if I am reading the polls correctly is that whilst the "your constituency" question is polled the candidates names are not. This will have an effect in many of these seats especially Watford.
Well said Jack. Your money is safe.
Would Farage's name helped or hindered UKIP figures in Thanet S?
Those revelling at the prospect of Farage's demise in Thanet South may still be disappointed.
Constituents like having leaders as their MP and Farage will enjoy even greater prominence during the election and the media will focus heavily on the seat. Ukip will also pour resources into the seat. However a cross current will be tactical voting against him.
On balance I believe Farage is favourite to win the seat.
I think he'd have lost had Ms Sandys stood again.
Possibly.
However with constituency betting it is essential not to hostility toward an individual or party cloud ones judgement of the reality on the ground. Also there's little doubt Farage would add to the gayety of the HoC.
When you get to the polling station they don't ask you question 2. Those who are going to vote tactically will already know that so why would they then answer question 1 differently. It's almost as if some of those polled feel they are being asked to give a different answer.
But in the polling station, you're not asked which party, you are presented with a full list of candidate names, so question 2 is perhaps closer to that. (Although I agree that having two questions may encourage people to give different answers to them, exaggerating any effect.)
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Hills and Paddy still 9-2 ! (Con/Thanet South)
http://www.conservativehome.com/platform/2014/11/lord-ashcroft-some-surprises-in-my-latest-constituency-polling-and-a-look-at-the-leaders-backyards.html
-John Hemmings has the mother of all incumbency boosts.
-Conservatives unchanged in Watford since last poll, the LD selection has tore into Labour share.
Then Ed
Then Nick (But not 1-3 safe)
Nigel is a 3 way coin flip and is the worst value in the betting markets at a ridiculous 4-11.
After the election can Farage remain as UKIP leader if Carswell and a couple of other UKIPers get elected as MPs and he doesn't?
Farage wasn't the candidate then, and UKIP got 3% of the vote Nationally in 2010. If you think that is of no significance/that he might be a drag on the UKIP vote rather than a boost for it then I guess you could back the Tories
UKIP 35%, Con 32%, Lab 26%
Its only the reallocation of 'don't know' voters to their 2010 choice that swings it for the Conservatives in Table 5.
UKIP 29%, Con 33%, Lab 27%
http://lordashcroftpolls.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Thanet-South-poll-Nov-14-Full-tables.pdf
It's a no brainer.
Given that the Scottish government under-spends its budget every year its not that note worthy.
@LadPolitics: Latest @LordAshcroft polling has resulted in some dramatic changes in the betting esp Thanet South & Portsmouth South odds.
"Net migration hits 260,000 in new blow for Government pledge
Surge of 78,000 year-on-year driven by eastern European migrants after ministers admit promise to cut net migration has been 'blown off course'"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/11256116/Net-migration-hits-260000-in-new-blow-for-Government-pledge.html
The betting story here is that LDs are hanging tough in LD/Con marginals, but less so in LD/Lab marginals. This will make it very difficult for the Tories to win an overall majority.
NOM looks increasingly likely. Even at 1/2, it's probably still the value bet.
To my surprise, I find myself buying LD on the seats spreads.
If Farage can't be ahead now after Clacton and Rochester in his chosen seat, Laura Sandys is correct, he will remain an MEP on 8th May. Carswell to be UKIP leader by June?
Thanet South now 4-6/7-4.
LD 43% (-5)
Con 23% (-14)
UKIP 17% (+14)
Lab 12% (+3)
I might be being a bit thick here, but do these people understand that by voting Lib Dem instead of Tory they may prevent a Tory majority? Or do they love their local Lib Dem MP that much?
I am sticking with my 36-40 LD seats after next May .
You would have thought that the mainstream parties might be working harder on the ground and therefore reducing their share.
But there appears to be no evidence of this.
In addition some of the changes between national and local intention look astonishingly large.
Dan Hodges@DPJHodges·54 secs55 seconds ago London, England
I reckon @DouglasCarswell is the only Kipper with any chance of being an MP after 2015. And at that point he'll defect back.
There wasn't much in the more marginal ones.
Which just leaves a little niggle. If people are that set on voting tactically, why don't they say so in reply to Q1? That suggests that most people are just responding without thinking about the constituency, and it's only when that aspect is prompted for that they think oh, yeah, well, if you put it like that... The LibDems still have a bit of work to do in hardening up the intention.
Incidentally, I chatted to John Hemmings (Yardley) at the LibDem conference (we're bridge partners). He was cautiously hopeful though he said it was really impossible to be sure.
I don't want him back.
East Renfrewshire - Result 2010
Lab (Jim Murphy MP) 25,987
Con 15,567
LD 4,720
SNP 4,535
UKIP 372
But look at Shadsy's current pricing:
East Renfrewshire - Ladbrokes
Lab 1/3
SNP 5/2
Con 20/1
UKIP 100/1
LD 100/1
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-30232569
20-1 or so and I'd be on it like a hooker on a phallus that emitted a brewed beverage to paraphrase Irvine Welsh.
But for once I agree with you! ;-)
Would Farage's name helped or hindered UKIP figures in Thanet S?
http://newstonoone.blogspot.com/2014/11/reading-entrails-few-polling.html
Hills & Paddy are your friends ^_@
Dream on. You are in trouble.
LD EVS
Con 11/10
SNP 6/1
UKIP 100/1
Lab 100/1
Berwickshire, Roxburgh and Selkirk - Result 2010
LD (Michael Moore MP) 22,230
Con 16,555
Lab 5,003
SNP 4,497
UKIP 595
Jacobite 134
The Tories are going with the same candidate again: John Lamont MSP, the Scottish Conservative Chief Whip and Parliamentary Business Manager.
I'm sceptical about this whole issue - we just don't know enough to be able say definitively that Q2 is a better guide to the final result than Q1. It might be, but we can't be sure.
Equally it is hard to know how much credence to give to the different swings in different seats. By the time you factor in statistical noise and weighting difficulties, the differences might not be very reliable at all.
It will make for a very interesting post-mortem.
Lab 1/20 (from 1/100 this morning)
UKIP 8/1 (from 12/1 this morning)
Con 33/1 (from 50/1 this morning)
LD 100/1
It just doesn't feel right.
Not doubting Lord Ashcroft's integrity at all.
But the Tories up since 2010. I know Ed is crap but still.
Constituents like having leaders as their MP and Farage will enjoy even greater prominence during the election and the media will focus heavily on the seat. Ukip will also pour resources into the seat. However a cross current will be tactical voting against him.
On balance I believe Farage is favourite to win the seat.
If there were, you'd have several by now. Well done.
However, I still want to take all this with a bit of a pinch of salt. I'd like to see Ashcroft repeat the same polling month on month so we have a point of reference. Then we can spot trends. This feels too much like pinning a tail on the donkey.
What are the changes from the last Lord Ashcroft poll of the constituency?
- Clegg down 22% in his own constituency with Lab up 12%. Might need to launch a charm offensive on the Hallam Tories to tactically vote for him
- Miliband's score is hardly a ringing endorsement - down 7% on 2010. Must give UKIP hope in the other 2 Doncaster seats, which are better for them
- Farage will be disappointed, although hasn't been the candidate that long. Will need to work the seat hard in the run up to the GE
Cambridge isn't the north of England, and Huppert seems like the sort of MP red liberals will have no problem at all voting for. In addition yes I note the Labour bloke finished behind the Cons last time...
£13 @ 5-4 and £7 @ 11-10 for me.
I can certainly envisage Carswell returning to the Conservative fold.
Edit: I got the wrong Kipper MP. My bad and it was a 50:50 call. Still, they can keep them both.
However with constituency betting it is essential not to hostility toward an individual or party cloud ones judgement of the reality on the ground. Also there's little doubt Farage would add to the gayety of the HoC.