They may not. I do. He's a writer I turn to over and over again.
Orwell wrote from his experience, as all the best writers do, He was a captain in the colonial Burma police (Hence his dislike of empire).
Animal farm and 1984 come from his experiences during the Spanish civil war (he was appalled by the practices of the republican communist leadership).
Quite simply the most influential writer in any language of the 20th century.
I have read all his books; and agree over the quality of his writing.
He was an Etonian ex Colonial police who did record his discomfort around working class people in many of his works. Despite this (he famously pointed out that the problem was "the poor smell") he was both patriotic and on the side of the working class. I think he would have been pro EU, he certainly was quite open to Catalan and French working class culture.
My grandfather was his roommate and best friend at school. Mentioned more than once he was 'good chap'. Not sure my grandfather shared his politics in later life though!
On the data in the thread header, what does it look like if you aggregate it in the other direction - ie, what is the political support of people who don't think there's a recovery?
It's unlikely that a person's perception of the economy will improve if the Conservatives manage to convince them to change their support due to other policies, but looking at the data the other way around will show us how likely people will be to change their political support if their perception of the economy improves - and that is something the Conservatives will hope to be able to do something about.
The interesting thing about him was that a lot of the Left at the time hated him for what he said about them and he has not always been appreciated by all on the Left since then.
More exactly it was the Popular Front (Communists, Labour, Liberals & Conservatives) and their WWII heirs that Orwell detested, and was despised by in turn. The cross party and establishment lionization of Stalin from Churchill downwards sickened him. Of course once the Cold War began they all did a reverse ferret and Orwell became the anti-communist standard bearer, not a position he particularly desired or chose for himself.
On topic, I did half write a thread back in the summer, based on some polling which said, when people were asked under whom the economy would do better under after the next election, the Tories or Labour, the Tories won, including a plurality of Kippers, and a lot of Lab supporters.
On topic, isn't it a case that Tories are the more optimistic, glass-half-full sorts? Whereas UKIP are glass completely empty sorts? They are stood at the bar, moaning - because "in the fifty nine years I've been coming to this pub, with my own dedicated pewter tankard hanging from that beam, no-one has EVER bought a round....."
These people are not 'Tories' and 'UKIP' -they are voters. You are not born one or the other, you decide who you support at the time; you'll notice this when you keep losing by-elections.
Changing your political allegiance in response to policies you dislike and a feeling that things could be better is actually a very optimistic step - to remain with a failed party due to tribalism, or a fatalistic sense of dreary inevitability, is hardly an optimistic choice.
Rising real wages and creation of decent jobs - rather than forcing people into burger flipping ones - are the only things that matter.
Far too late for the Tories to turn that around now.
Tell me, how does the government create decent jobs ? Ones that make money for the country I mean ?
It doesn't cut spending.
Hate to break it to you, government jobs dont make money, they cost money. Private sector jobs make money, there's more of those been created in the UK than the rest of the EU put together.
Ah. I see you've been reading the Ladybird picture book "Rightwing Economics 101".
Private Sector Jobs have no greater value than any other job, as the UKs woeful productivity figures and dismal tax receipts make abundantly clear.
If zillions of burger flippers are so valuable to the economy - more so than, say, social workers - why is the deficit rising on the back of an undershoot in income tax receipts?
Poor Ben M, needs to realise the public sector spends money created by the private sector taken in taxation by the government. Wealth for the nation is only created in the private sector though some politicians have managed to use it to create a great deal of personal wealth.
Total rubbish, both sectors create wealth and are interdependent.
In short, the private sector could exist without him, he could not exist without the private sector.
Not so. They are interdependent.
Private enterprise is completely dependent on the rule of law, a fit and educated workforce, transport infrastructure... All wealth generated by the public sector.
You can't have one without the other.
What you actually describe are services paid for out of taxation. The taxation comes from the private sector. It also comes from taxation from the public sector which is initially money raised in taxation by the private sector and paid to public servants to run the services you have quoted. Please remember the government has no money of its own it has raised tax revenue, borrowings and assets that were paid for via previous taxation on the workforce and other entities of one sort or another.
Why is this so hard for the left to understand its O level economics FFS. Is it any wonder that Labour left us in the mess they did.
re Trident - scrapping it would only save Scotland 10% of the cost but a massive % of the impact of Faslane being shut.
Seems crazy to me - or is it just an intentional distraction from the epic welfare and education problems in Scotland that the "social justice" parties want to avoid talking about ?
re Trident - scrapping it would only save Scotland 10% of the cost but a massive % of the impact of Faslane being shut.
Seems crazy to me - or is it just an intentional distraction from the epic welfare and education problems in Scotland that the "social justice" parties want to avoid talking about ?
If Trident is solely a job creation scheme for the people of Helensburgh I am sure that there are better ways to do that then a WMD system.
What you actually describe are services paid for out of taxation. The taxation comes from the private sector. It also comes from taxation from the public sector which is initially money raised in taxation by the private sector and paid to public servants to run the services you have quoted. Please remember the government has no money of its own it has raised tax revenue, borrowings and assets that were paid for via previous taxation on the workforce and other entities of one sort or another.
Why is this so hard for the left to understand its O level economics FFS. Is it any wonder that Labour left us in the mess they did.
And the private sector could not make the profits without the public sector services it relies on.
It's a classic chicken and egg. Both sectors depend on each other. Both create wealth. It's madness to pretend otherwise.
Dan Hodges @DPJHodges 46s47 seconds ago London, England .@oflynnmep Let's test. I'll also streak naked down Whitehall if Mark Reckless holds his seat next May. You'll do it if he loses. Deal?
Not exactly a tempting deal for O'Flynn, as Hodges will have to do it anyway if UKIP have any MP, and also Hodges made his original pledge back when he thought UKIP had very little chance of getting an MP
If you are reading Patrick, don't agree!
Update..
Patrick O'Flynn @oflynnmep 5m5 minutes ago @DPJHodges Dan the idiotic "I will run naked if..." is regarded very much as your thing! Honestly not my style. Will source u a mankini tho!
Dan Hodges @DPJHodges 4m4 minutes ago London, England .@oflynnmep Yes, I thought that would be your response. Start phoning the recruitment consultants @MarkReckless...
I hate to break up the fun, but it is illegal for a man to show his person in an area where women could be present.
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It's unlikely that a person's perception of the economy will improve if the Conservatives manage to convince them to change their support due to other policies, but looking at the data the other way around will show us how likely people will be to change their political support if their perception of the economy improves - and that is something the Conservatives will hope to be able to do something about.
Changing your political allegiance in response to policies you dislike and a feeling that things could be better is actually a very optimistic step - to remain with a failed party due to tribalism, or a fatalistic sense of dreary inevitability, is hardly an optimistic choice.
What you actually describe are services paid for out of taxation. The taxation comes from the private sector. It also comes from taxation from the public sector which is initially money raised in taxation by the private sector and paid to public servants to run the services you have quoted. Please remember the government has no money of its own it has raised tax revenue, borrowings and assets that were paid for via previous taxation on the workforce and other entities of one sort or another.
Why is this so hard for the left to understand its O level economics FFS. Is it any wonder that Labour left us in the mess they did.
It's a classic chicken and egg. Both sectors depend on each other. Both create wealth. It's madness to pretend otherwise.
Read Matthew 11 ASV
Looking at his disciples, he said: "Blessed are you who are poor, for yours is the kingdom of God.
Read Luke 6
It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
Read Mark 10
Fairly conclusive I think.
Sorry : wrong thread!