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    Mr. Royale, hope you haven't walked into anything.

    Nope. Well, only into the inevitable conclusion of five pints on an empty stomach.
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    MonksfieldMonksfield Posts: 2,243
    There's a NEW THREAD up
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    malcolmg said:

    Swiss_Bob said:

    Swiss_Bob said:

    Just taken all I could on Miliband out before Jan (at reasonable odds).

    It's only a few quid but I feel it in my water :-)

    where did you go? What odds? The problem is there is no obvious replacement.
    Betfair. I have taken everything from 7.6 - 13.5.

    Small amount staked, there wasn't much there, you can take what's left at 5, probably not great value.

    I have another small amount on Darling as next Labour leader, the dark horse.

    http://www.betfair.com/exchange/politics/market?id=1.101710557
    How desperate could they be if Darling was a contender
    You mean they're not desperate?

    Re Reckless on Sky this morning. If it's to announce the defection of a Labour MP I'm going to look like the Seer of Peithagoras.
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    malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 42,239
    Scott_P said:

    O/T Good news for Findlay backers in the Scottish Labour race. Earlier this week his team calculated he was just 6% behind Murphy. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-30080313 It looks about right to me. If he can keep momentum over the next 2-3 weeks he could cause a shock. Currently at 4/1 which is value. I'd make it 9/4.

    Thanks Henry.

    I know Findlay is the Union choice, but is he any more authentically working class than Ed?
    certainly more working class than shyster Murphy
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    JackW said:

    JackW said:

    JackW said:

    Some of our more excitable PBers and media commentaterate need a heavy dose of reality - it was a by-election you plonkers !!

    Nigel Farage Will Never Be Prime Minister

    Just could, though, and the thought gives me the shudders, be king-maker.
    A tad difficult to be kingmaker with only a handful of seats.

    More likely for Salmond to be kingmaker.

    I think a Con minority government the most likely outcome. I cannot see any party entering formal coalition with either Labour or Conservatives after seeing what has happened to the Libdems.

    It is only when we experience minority government that people will see that the LD/Con coalition was a golden era of sane government.
    Absolutely not.

    The SNP will not put the Conservatives in power at any price and a weak minority government will put the economic recovery at risk.

    It comes down to bums on seats but a broadly a Con/LibDem Coalition MkII looks likely as the latest ARSE indicates.

    Ed Miliband will resign a day or so after the general election and Farage MP will be highly animated at his failure to garner more than half a dozen MPs at the outside. The SNP will have more than doubled their seats but to little Westminster effect and the irony of FPTP coming to the aid of the LibDems will see Nick Clegg laughing all the way to the Deputy PM's office.

    Funny old world.

    The SNP would not support a Tory government, but would they support a Miliband one?.
    Sturgeon said yes provided they got Devo ultra and moved Trident. That'll go down a treat with White Van Man (but may wash in London Labour, where half the members are.....)
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    foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548

    Never mind this politics nonsense, it is a Vicar of Dibley weekend on UK Gold. Hurrah!!

    So what are we expecting in the polls this evening (if there are any other than YouGov)? UKIP at 250%, Tories at 25%, Labour at 40%, LibDems at 5% or will we get something realistic?

    Can it be anything other than a matter of time until even ComRes and Survation start polling Labour in the 20s?
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    I may well be wrong but I think the next big benchmark is if the Conservatives can hit and hold 35%. I'm looking to 37-38% minimum on May 7th and 35% now would be a very good sign.

    Will the flag saga hit Labour and help UKIP? Given how The Sun have run with this, the answer is possibly 'yes.'

    Having said that, the polls have a delightful way of confounding. We may see a Labour lead :)
    In retrospect it may well be that Miliband and co making an enemy of Murdoch was very unwise.

    Revenge is a dish best served cold; never make an enemy on your way up as you may meet them again on the way down; but most importantly the Sun understands white van man.
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    malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 42,239

    One fact not widely reported is that the SNP were happy to do a deal with SCONs to get their financial bill through when they were a minority Govt....

    they were not propping up the Tories, the Tories were begging to help them to get some crumbs from the table
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    My take on it is that nobody knows what will happen and they are just basing assumptions on whether they like UKIP or not. If you love them then they will win 100+ seats if you hate them they wont win any more than 5, with a few shades of grey in between.

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    PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    I really like the snippets from newspapers and tweets - they help spark debate and keep threads rolling along or provide an alternative subject of discussion if the original article isn't of interest.

    TBH, we all have times when we find the OT content boring as it's not our thing. When this becomes Cricket Running Commentary or Train Spotting Home, I just skip by them. But it's of enough interest to fellow PBers, so I won't moan about it or get all high-horsey.

    Innocent Abroad:

    Sorry you're leaving. Your comments are always thoughtful. I too find the spamming of newspaper articles/latest dribblings of Guido among the duller content of this site. But hey ho.

    Did Innocent Abroad actually mention those two things? If so I missed them.

    Guido is the No.1 political website in the country for exposing cant and hypocrisy amongst politicians of all parties. I never read the comments, which are awful, and I find some of his right-wing bias too much, even for me, especially the ghastly pro-Israel nonsense (like Con Home) but it's important and links to it when appropriate seem perfectly reasonable.

    And surely the same applies to linking newspaper articles? We need to have informed debate on here as well as knowing the current drivers in the media narrative.

    The rudeness of some people, and I'm sorry but it's often you-kippers, is the thing which drags the site down. Having a go at a party is one thing, getting personally insulting is another. There's really no need for it.

    (Cue some kipper telling me to stop being parsimonious)
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    RogerRoger Posts: 18,955
    edited November 2014
    Having just flicked through this thread and obviously following the zeitgeist of white van man and his flags being the new aspiration I couldn't help but notice that some on here now think the Tory lady from Rochester was in fact the ideal choice and it was just the champagne socialist snobs and yound Tory zealots who couldn't see it.

    Well I'm sorry but she came accross as a sneering half cooked moron. I understand that someone from the highlands might not understand the nuances of English accents but there is no excuse for anyone else.

    In advertising there are very specific voices and accents which people use for particular products. Seductive trustworthy honest dishonest sharp stupid simple etc etc. It is something that is understood by our subconscious. Anyone wanting to sell insurance for example is not going to seek out Kelly Tolhurst but might well use the soft Edinburgh accent of Alastaire Darling.

    So enough of this inverted snobbery. Ed's was crass enough yesterday but let's not make ourselves look ridiculous by following him.
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