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Backed off the boards at 2-1 and 7-4 I suspect.
That's what Johnny Foreigners do.
Rob Wood, chief UK economist at Berenberg Bank, concurs.
To make up the £17bn hole in the government’s plans, borrowing over the final five months of the year would need to be 40% lower than last year. The implausibility of that means Osborne faces a testing time in a week and a half, when he updates the country on how the austerity drive is going in his Autumn Statement. Back in 2010 the government had expected to be finished with austerity now and perhaps looking forward to granting tax cuts. As it is, tax rises to plug a deficit hole are beginning to look a more likely prospect."
As for not understanding the left, It's Labour with the tin ears.
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When is Marf going to get the call from Ed begging her to run his campaign? She seems to have a much better grasp of what needs to be done than that geek from the US that they are paying megabucks to.
As the English flag discussion / populous poll in the previous thread shows, there is a clear move towards a much more openly proud and patriotic English nationalism across all parts of English society – perhaps accelerated and given a new lease of life by the Scottish independence campaign.
I think many in Labour hate this English nationalism as they still see it in terms of racist narrow minded Little Englanderism / skinheads or, more cynically, because they stand to be seriously diminished by a loss of Scottish votes in parliament. I’m also sure the Tories all see England in the John Major / village green / cricket / sing Jerusalem / battle of Trafalgar / full historical pride in our nation sort of way. Tories like and are proud of England. Likewise UKIP. And both see the Labour view as frankly disgusting and insulting to one of the great nations of world history.
It astonishes me that so many here on PB can’t see precisely why the Thornberry tweet is such a big and damaging deal. Those with a nose smelled the stink immediately. That’s why it’s all over the news. We’re moving from class-based politics to identity based politics. And Labour have got themselves into an almost unrecoverable position on the core issue of our national identity. And on the wrong side of it! Their old core vote and their new one (Islington lefty luvvies) have become unreconcilable. Way to go Ed!
It's like going from the nursery slopes straight to a full black run.
Still I'm surprised that Ed made such a big story out of this tweet. Seems a bit stupid, we go back to the PM's old adage, too many tweets make a t***.
Ten or so years ago I painted a Union flag on a large canvas and had that in my living room, everyone loved it, so much so that a friend's daughter kept asking for it and one day recently took advantage of my having had a few beers and that was it. She has a Scottish mother.
As I said, before Heaver - it was the Parris article in a picture.
The left must show that, ghastly though the English are in so many rich and varied ways, it doesn’t actually hate them.
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/nick-cohen/2014/09/the-left-cannot-be-an-anti-english-movement/
I live in Salisbury South Wilts, a medieval town that still celebrates every St George’s day with a carnival and re-enactment in the town square; a few churches fly the flag every day and the St George shopping mall is bedecked with red and white bunting every weekend. – When the Mayor or the local military parade through town, (Salisbury plain is just up the road) there are flags draped across every street.
Here, the English flag is not just for Christmas. - Thornberry would hate it.
You may have won a battle but you haven't won the war.
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Others (most?)do it as a bit of a "up yours" to people like Emily Thornberry telling them what they can and cant think, while some are patriotic supporters of the national team when they happen to be playing...
I think Thornberry's mistake was to assume the first explanation without considering the others, which is exactly the kind of thinking that the Politically Correct Police have zero tolerance for when the boot is on the other foot.
Patrick [10.25] described the two views of English nationalism. I might myself take a less jaundiced view of it if we ever again look like recovering the Ashes... na'h, move along, nothing to see there...
Her getting sacked is just a bonus that makes it even funnier. Karma, hoisted by her own petard etc
I think it was Ricky Gervais who said he believed in allowing people to believe in anything they want and to also allow other people to say its flippin (word changed) ridiculous what they believe in .
Why are we so far from that in modern politics?
She was working, and representing the Labour Party. She should have had the nous and the wisdom to realise that anything that could be misconstrued would be, and to that extent there's no need to feel too sorry for her.
Nevertheless she was also to some extent the victim of mob rule and that's distasteful - left, right or anywhere.
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Why is the Ladbrokes website crap - by far the worst of the major bookies?
This question has been asked over and over again by any number of PB posters.
Ladbrokes have had any number of revamps, no doubt undertaken at vast expense, but they simply seem incapable of sorting out this mess.
As I remarked a couple of days ago, it's little wonder that in terms of market capitalisation , they are now scarcely one-third the size of Wm. Hill, a company they once dwarfed and have recently been overtaken in terms of size by Betfair, whom they used to ridicule as being simply machine operators.
I recently made the (friendly) suggestion that it was perhaps time for the highly talented and well-regarded Shadsy to move on to somewhere (Betfair?) where his talents would be properly appreciated and indeed fully applied.
The legendary Cyril Stein would turn in his grave.
Gave the impression she'd just seen HomoWWC Englishus at London Zoo !
Five months for an 18 month sentence seem really soft on crime to me.
Not a bad start....
To quote from The American President: America isn't easy. America is advanced citizenship. You've gotta want it bad, 'cause it's gonna put up a fight. It's gonna say, "You want free speech? Let's see you acknowledge a man whose words make your blood boil, who's standing center stage and advocating at the top of his lungs that which you would spend a lifetime opposing at the top of yours." You want to claim this land as the land of the free? Then the symbol of your country cannot just be a flag. The symbol also has to be one of its citizens exercising his right to burn that flag in protest. Now show me that, defend that, celebrate that in your classrooms. Then you can stand up and sing about the land of the free.
I wonder if what has happened at Wigan Football club shows the tide may be turning there
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May 2010: 7,800 votes (16.3%)
Nov 2014: 349 votes (0.8%)
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I doubt your principles (which I share) are of the slightest help to the estate management team. Or the Residents' Association committee.
Alyn and Deeside
Merthyr and Rhymney
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/nov/21/blame-labour-leaks-votes-greens-ed-miliband
The Greens lost their deposit in Rochester & Strood, but getting a quarter of the votes that the widely-praised Labour candidate got.
They achieved 0.87%, the worst ever percentage share polled by the Liberals/LDs ever. Previous record Glasgow Camlachie 948 (1.2%).
You'd think Mr Juby would have more family, friends, neighbors, co-workers and acquaintances than 349.... Wonder what happened?
As for the by election result - I am not sure Reckless has anything to be really pleased about. It has shown that various groups of voters will vote against UKIP. The margin is not that big for a tory defector in a tory seat inevitably retaining a tory vote. If purely for the sake of argument Reckless had dropped dead to cause the election instead of being an incumbent MP, then the Tories would have held the seat against some nondescript UKIP candidate.
Good riddance.
Alas, she was an asset to the Tories, and UKIP. Her parting gift should have plenty of mileage left in it though. It also nicely neutralises the class war charges from Labour constantly thrown out at the Tories - they can hardly complain about the Tories not understanding "working people" when the wealthy middle-class metropolitan Labour intelligentsia plainly consider them objects of derision and scorn.
No doubt Ruth Davidson will be reiterating her views on early release of prisoners at that point.
YouGov is the gold standard.
Oh dear, does this mean Mourinho will have an even greater swagger in his step, if that's possible.
The trick is (as we used to say in our 'Risk' league) "win by a little lose by a lot". I suspect that the LibDems may do that quite well in the GE whereas UKIP may get it the wrong way round.
It is a harbinger for next year.
Roy Hodgson saves Ed Miliband.
Can't see him holding that paper thin majority in May when it comes to a vote that matters.
Good riddance to him too.
The result should also shore up and settle nerves all round on the Tory benches. All is not lost, but I still think Cameron faces a massive battle to cling on to power and stop us getting our first ever universally unwanted and accidental PM. The Labour voters are more likely to return to the fold than the pee'd off "wish it was 1984" (if not 1954) ex-Tories!
Ed is Crap is PM
It's clearly an internal outlier. Which pushes up the Labour score a bit too much. Knock out the 55 Labour votes from Scotland and replace with 30 I reckon.
Cons and Tories basically level.