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46% of LAB voters say that having EdM as leader is reason to vote for the party pic.twitter.com/GD6Njqoc5S
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It's possible that Miliband's leadership is being read 'as opposed to Cameron's'.
Or less than half in old money
@MSmithsonPB: 49% of LAB voters tell Opinium that having Ed Balls as shadow chancellor a reason to vote for the party http://t.co/nAGxr8jp7H
Less than half...
How they will handle the economy?
Proof after all that Labour's EducashnX3 had the desired effect.
Without those comparative figures we're simply guessing as to whether a score is good or not.
Personally, I think that would be a grave mistake.
order-order.com/2014/11/18/salmonds-stone-of-destiny
"It is never difficult to distinguish between a Scotsman with a grievance and a ray of sunshine."
'kinell!
"Fair movement, not free movement"
WTF does that mean?
@johnmcternan: Try this:"Í want fair movement of goods and services in Europe not free movement." Convincing? Compelling? Logical? Sensible? Thought not.
And it contradicts the EU 'fundamental principle' that Ed is so keen to support at all costs
@MShapland: "Dear border guard. I would like to move fairly into your country"
Labour want to hose public money into areas where they previously imported lots of Labour voters...
Well I never.
Well that, I suppose.
I was thinking that Klass is a self made woman of immigrant stock. She spearheads the christmas ad campaigns of a major retailer.
That girl is right in the living rooms of the voters who matter.
lastlatest relaunch, it was reported that members of the Shadow Cabinet would be making 'helpful' speeches.If this is the help...
@CCHQPress: Theresa May: "Labour are making up policy as they go along. It is further proof that they aren’t ready for the responsibility of government"
I think BJO appears to be in denial, but he's actually moved through the anger stage to the bargaining stage (EICIPM anyone?). I expect him to become quietly depressed soon, before he joins SO, and a couple of the other more astute Labourites here, into acceptance.
(was that not, by delicious coincidence, the approval rating of their record in power accorded the Nazi party by the SS Nordland Division in April 1945?)
They voted for David, it was the unions who foisted Ed upon the Labour Party.
What will be done about the bullying I don’t know. Yet.
Why Danny is 5-2 and Charlie is 2-9.
Early parliamentary general elections
(1)An early parliamentary general election is to take place if—
(a)the House of Commons passes a motion in the form set out in subsection (2), and
(b)if the motion is passed on a division, the number of members who vote in favour of the motion is a number equal to or greater than two thirds of the number of seats in the House (including vacant seats).
(2)The form of motion for the purposes of subsection (1)(a) is—
“That there shall be an early parliamentary general election.”
(3)An early parliamentary general election is also to take place if—
(a)the House of Commons passes a motion in the form set out in subsection (4), and
(b)the period of 14 days after the day on which that motion is passed ends without the House passing a motion in the form set out in subsection (5).
(4)The form of motion for the purposes of subsection (3)(a) is—
“That this House has no confidence in Her Majesty's Government.”
(5)The form of motion for the purposes of subsection (3)(b) is—
“That this House has confidence in Her Majesty's Government.”
(6)Subsection (7) applies for the purposes of the Timetable in rule 1 in Schedule 1 to the Representation of the People Act 1983.
(7)If a parliamentary general election is to take place as provided for by subsection (1) or (3), the polling day for the election is to be the day appointed by Her Majesty by proclamation on the recommendation of the Prime Minister (and, accordingly, the appointed day replaces the day which would otherwise have been the polling day for the next election determined under section 1).
Klass is now better known for being a presenter; she fronted the shows Popstar to Operastar between 2010 and 2011 on ITV and The One Show in 2007 on BBC One. In April 2012 her net worth was estimated at £11 million.
Complaining that £2 million can't buy you a garage in London or something these days.
(I was more a Liberty X fan myself)
But she has become, inter alia, a successful musician, actress and the face of M&S
I like her.
But the important bit is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7pbhGwGqgM
Miliband: "I tax mansions. I tax banks."
Myleene Klass: "Are you just looking at things and saying you'll tax them?"
Miliband: "I tax lamp."
I reckon Danny and Nicky Morgan might be goners.
The important bit is that Klass embodies the British dream for some people in Britain.
They would view her money in a completely different way to the money of a 'posh' person. Or a lecturing left winger with a large tax efficient inherited estate.
They would say she earned it by taking her opportunities and working all the hours god sends.
Such a distinction is totally lost on the labour commentariat.
The "You can't just point at things and tax them" line is pretty good, incidentally.
Edited extra bit: and media reporting isn't all against Miliband. I was surprised when ITV News at Ten reported that he'd 'seized on' [or suchlike] Cameron's suggestion the global economy might not be super. It seems an entirely sensible observation to me, but the reporting was pretty favourable to Miliband's shrieking claim Cameron was 'getting his excuses in early'.
What we can take from this is, that Labour supporters should be worried, polls that show Lab ahead are newsworthy, and the polls that have the Tories ahead are expected, and don't get the same level of coverage.
Work out the average of these metrics and maybe you can calculate the true core vote of a party from these numbers under the leadership it has at that time. Labour Core under Milliband about 17% - 20%. (And I'm sure if you did Tory the core under Cameron wouldn't be that different, I'm not Milliband bashing).
Is the message that the core vote of the parties is much lower than we realise?
Was the most recent confidence motion, so perhaps my text should have been more like "That this House has confidence in the policy of Her Majesty's Government in its renegotiation of the countries relationship with the European Union".
But it gives me an excuse to post this splendid photoshopped picture:
http://i.imgur.com/J6qASg9.jpg
Presumably that is 46% of those that have not already deserted the party because of Ed, and the same group that followed a nut like Gordon Brown because he sports a red rosette? – not a ringing endorsement IMHO, but there you go….
Not so much mission creep, as tax creep.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/liberaldemocrats/11139050/Nick-Cleggs-Cabinet-reshuffle-stalls-as-Alistair-Carmichael-refuses-to-budge.html
Mind you if he doesn't budge, and the LDs are wiped out, he might be the next LD leader and I have him at 40/1.
Blimey
"Nick Clegg is taking questions in the Commons. Asked by Sir Edward Leigh, a Conservative, if there would be a vote on English votes for English laws before the election, he did not rule it out. In reply, he just said that this was being considered by a cabinet committee and that its proposals would be published soon.”
Hasn’t everything got to be on the table by St Andrews Day? Or is that just proposals for Scotland?
The real reasons for voting Labour is a belief that it is the party of the working man and woman which wants to help the disadvantaged in society in their time of need and thinks that in general terms excessive inequality is a bad thing.
They may no longer be socialists in the conventional sense but they do believe that all members of society have worth, are deserving of respect (except bankers natch) and that we have a collective duty to provide for each other.
In my experience grass roots Labour includes a large number of the most decent, civically minded people you could hope to meet. How they put up with their leadership I really don't know. It would try the patience of a saint.
http://survation.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Scottish-Attitudes-November-Tables_1_46.pdf
No doubt who will win that fight. GE2015 is tuning up to be a classic 'Head' vs. 'Heart' contest. Head will win, as it always does.
Dan Hodges@DPJHodges·3 mins3 minutes ago London, England
Labour's new anti-immigration push shows Ed Miliband is a hypocrite a coward and a fool > Telegraph > http://tinyurl.com/lulwqny
It will be seen as fair.
Neither here nor there in the grand scheme of things, but if we have to declare a winner then the winner is Ed for the reasons Antifrank gives below.