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BBC News says some LAB MPs have told chair of parliamentary party that EdM should stand down
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My guess is Andy Burnham.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29935172
It's time to stop knocking EdM until February when it will be too late. The last thing we Conservatives need is a new Labour leader in their honeymoon period seducing voters.
Andy Burnham is one of the least voter-genic politicians around: on a par with Michael Gove in terms of odiousness.
Alan Johnson would be the big fear.
In fact I'm on him at 1-7 to stay - since bookies tend to like an overround I'll assume that I'm on the right side of the bet still.
Very nice and clever girl she was too.
Well done to him for getting the scoop.
And I think it's all over for Ed, sadly. Writing has been on the wall for some time.
The Tories could do with him staying in charge but when you have absolutely no media support (aside from Mary Riddell) and you just come across as someone who is never going to be PM, you're screwed.
Not a chance.
"It is understood his leadership was also openly questioned at a meeting of Labour MPs from the north west of England earlier this week.
Sources say they discussed moving to a defensive strategy in a bid to hold onto their seats, rather than fight an offensive one aimed winning the election.
One MP told me: "People were openly saying the leadership is failing this and we've got a problem winning seats in May."
Another normally loyal backbencher said: "I think there's been a sharp downturn in mood over the last few days."
There was a mood, the backbencher said, that "we just can't go on like this".
Ed Miliband is expected to directly address the criticism of his leadership on a regional visit later today.
A Labour source said: "We have spent four years being united as a party in a determination to be a one-term opposition. We're not going to be distracted by noises-off"
Ed Miliband in Northampton about to comment on bus regulation. No doubt Labour wants to stop them cuaisng fatal accidents to party leaders
"Our country could better face the future outside the EU" agree/disagree
Italians (+42 / -40), Slovenians (+51 / -43), Cypriots (+51 / -41), and Brits (+45 / -36)
Think they'd be better off outside the EU.
France was quite pro-EU (+25 / -64)
p.83 of PDF
http://ec.europa.eu/public_opinion/archives/eb/eb81/eb81_publ_en.pdf
http://news.sky.com/story/1368194/miliband-quit-claims-denied-by-labour-party
No wonder he's in trouble.
In recent times we have had:
His embarrassment in Scotland pre-referendum.
That speech.
A drop of nearly 5% in the Labour average.
Yet more trouble in Scotland.
A mini reshuffle including a further narrowing of the range of insiders around Ed.
An increasing level of ridicule in even the left/centre left press.
A further collapse in his personal polling.
None of this looks good but the Labour party didn't challenge Brown when he was wreaking the country; when he was paralysed by indecision and incompetence and when attack dogs (of the type Ed to his credit seems to have dispensed with) were wandering the corridors savaging cabinet ministers and everyone more junior at will.
Labour really don't do decapitations. Do they?
Ed is safe, unless he chooses to step down - and I think that extremely unlikely.
http://www.spectator.co.uk/columnists/rod-liddle/9361412/ukip-is-a-party-for-people-who-hate-london-thats-why-labour-should-be-scared/
The problem with Labour is policies not leadership, it's leaking votes because it's base wants something more radical, and as a result of less support Ed's leadership ratings falls.
LBC radio wants to hear from anybody who supports Ed Miliband (now live) http://www.lbc.co.uk/ < good luck with that. #SaveEd
http://news.sky.com/story/1368194/miliband-quit-claims-denied-by-labour-party
Sour grapes Sky I'm afraid by looks of it.
But I still pray this goes away.
http://www1.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2013/05/08/if-dan-hodges-wins-his-bet-with-me-then-ed-will-have-to-stay-on-the-opposition-side-of-the-chamber/
"Having the Euro is a good or bad thing for your country?"
France +53 / -37
Italy +43 / -47
Cyprus +42 / -46
p.8 of PDF
http://ec.europa.eu/public_opinion/flash/fl_405_en.pdf
The plotting against EdM would have more credence if the polls were showing the Tories on 40% to Labour's 32-33%.
But the Tories are on 30%, and UKIP's surge will hand Labour seats from the Tories by the bucketload. As it stands, Labour are heading back into office.
On current polls, it's Cameron who has the problem.
Even the most charismatic leader in the world would probably be seen as totally boring and uninteresting if they'd gone out of their way to not be "controversial" like Ed with his lack of policies over the past 4 years.
Laying off Conservatives just in case …
We desperately need EdM to stay.
Talking on bus policies in #northampton @Ed_Miliband
Guido will love the picture...looks as if he is about to be run over by a bandwagon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Tm4BrZjY_Sg
And good to see him!
“There’s no shame in voting Ukip,” a building worker told me. “We want Ukip. He’ll sort all this immigration out. The Tories haven’t tackled it, nor Labour. And the unions are getting rubbished because immigrants don’t join unions.” It’s very often just “he,” meaning Nigel Farage. There is a strong sense of identification with “the man who speaks our language.”
That’s the anecdotal evidence, but for those willing to read it, the writing was on the wall long before the tremor that shook Heywood and Middleton in last month’s by-election, where Ed Miliband almost lost a safe Westminster seat to his beer-swilling rival."
http://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/opinions/election-2015-how-can-labour-stop-ukip-in-the-north
I know it's incredibly unsophisticated. But I think like that too.
I can't picture him in Downing Street. I've said it from the start.
https://www.google.co.uk/#q=balls+nazi
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/06/14/article-1286627-0A09686D000005DC-494_233x423.jpg
It seems the Labour Party are fully signed up to swingback.
Please rearrange the following letters to make a well-known internet acronym: L,L,O.
They've cut their odds on Yvette Cooper for next prime minister from 28/1 all the way down to..................... 1/3!
I judge politicians based on merits not handsomeness.
Funny how "tim" only appears when quoted by someone else.. why is that?
And is this question niff naff and trivia, and am I a hysterical anti-immigrant for asking?
"Cameron only" is 16/1
I have a feeling they might be selling the poppies off, but I'm sure they could make them again for next year.
Reasssuring to see Diane Abbot at 100/1 for that, same as Owen Jones and Mehdi Hasan
Well, I knifed my brother to get the chance...
YouGov (4-5 Nov):
Does you support or oppose the Coalition Agreement between LibDems and Tories?
Total support 26%
Total oppose 64%
Survation are the only pollster that prompt for UKIP. All the others skew results towards Con/Lab/LD by prompting for those options, and not UKIP.
When ComRes tried both approaches they found a 5 point difference in the UKIP share. Standard prompt: UKIP 19%, include UKIP prompt: UKIP 24%.
http://www.comres.co.uk/poll/1293/sunday-mirror-independent-on-sunday-poll.htm
Well it would solve the immigration problems of the country fairly quickly anyway.
Brown takes over, and suddenly it's "the electorate is interested in substance, not style."
#SaveEd
And there is room for a credible left/centre left agenda for this country. Inequality is at outrageous levels. Social mobility is grinding to a halt. There is a proper debate to be had as to whether the deficit should be cut by falling spending or increased taxation. Our housing policies are still a mess. What are our priorities in terms of what we spend? If privatisation is a bad thing how do we get more public services for the same money? So many serious and proper issues. So few answers.
But whatever your answers none of that matters unless you are fit to govern. If you are not it becomes meaningless gesture politics, occasionally popular but ultimately futile. And that is where Ed has led Labour. It has been a dereliction of duty.
I voted for Charlie !
I have always thought he comes across a nice, decent, polite, intelligent, slightly weird backroom staffer. Perfect Treasury Spad type. Not a PM.
Isn't that a mystery.
"I think the mood is pretty black in Labour. And certainly since party conference the mood has got blacker."
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-29937654
No they don't; they make it impossible.
The opportunity for a putsch has gone. It would have been only possible prior to the last annual conference.
Reaches for coat..
I eagerly clicked on the story to find out some new facts and there aren't any. It is not a news story. You could make up a similar piece on discontent with the leadership in the Tory or LibDem party.
This sentence is typical of the piece:
"Privately some MPs are said to think the party is in "meltdown"."
Privately (unattrributable) some MPs are said (rumour) to think (inside their heads) the party is in "meltdown" (OTT).
I don't think it is biased reporting, just poor reporting.
2. Some trees are evergreen -> all trees are evergreen.
You do realise that your argument can be stated as 1. above and that it is exactly as valid as 2., do you?
The key is to see if Labour's big beasts come out supporting him in the next 24 hours.
It's curious in all the talk of unity candidates that no one mentions the Deputy Leader as a possibility.