Another £400 has just been placed on the Rochester Betfair market taking the UKIP odds down to 1.22. Getting close now to the position Carswell was in at a similar point before the election.
Seems mighty unfair that someone may have insider information and is betting on it. I guess very hard to police?
It depends what it is, Rotten.
My guess is that the results of the Primary are now fairly widely known and some people are drawing inferences and betting accordingly. I don't have much of a problem with that to be honest. As you say, it is hard to police and the 'information' is not much more than one straw amongst many in the wind.
There are other instances though when I think liberties are taken and believe it or not there are rules - even laws - which are occasionally called into action.
But generally punters accept all that kind of stuff as part and parcel of the game.
Does that mean that neither of the Tory primary candidates are worth a mention and that they may be withdrawn before selection?
Another £400 has just been placed on the Rochester Betfair market taking the UKIP odds down to 1.22. Getting close now to the position Carswell was in at a similar point before the election.
Seems mighty unfair that someone may have insider information and is betting on it. I guess very hard to police?
It depends what it is, Rotten.
My guess is that the results of the Primary are now fairly widely known and some people are drawing inferences and betting accordingly. I don't have much of a problem with that to be honest. As you say, it is hard to police and the 'information' is not much more than one straw amongst many in the wind.
There are other instances though when I think liberties are taken and believe it or not there are rules - even laws - which are occasionally called into action.
But generally punters accept all that kind of stuff as part and parcel of the game.
Does that mean that neither of the Tory primary candidates are worth a mention and that they may be withdrawn before selection?
Another £400 has just been placed on the Rochester Betfair market taking the UKIP odds down to 1.22. Getting close now to the position Carswell was in at a similar point before the election.
Seems mighty unfair that someone may have insider information and is betting on it. I guess very hard to police?
It depends what it is, Rotten.
My guess is that the results of the Primary are now fairly widely known and some people are drawing inferences and betting accordingly. I don't have much of a problem with that to be honest. As you say, it is hard to police and the 'information' is not much more than one straw amongst many in the wind.
There are other instances though when I think liberties are taken and believe it or not there are rules - even laws - which are occasionally called into action.
But generally punters accept all that kind of stuff as part and parcel of the game.
Does that mean that neither of the Tory primary candidates are worth a mention and that they may be withdrawn before selection?
You have to look at both sides of the market on Betfair lads!
The 6.2 and 7.4 is nonsense
When there is a big move, people put up offers to take bets at ridiculously short prices... you want to be looking at the pink side of the odds, that what people are wanting to back.. 54/1 in this case..
£2k for UKIP at 1.25 says this is heading our way
I can't understand why Carswell didn't move the writ for the beginning of November. I assume it was the Tories who chose the 20th as the date for the election.
Another £400 has just been placed on the Rochester Betfair market taking the UKIP odds down to 1.22. Getting close now to the position Carswell was in at a similar point before the election.
Seems mighty unfair that someone may have insider information and is betting on it. I guess very hard to police?
It depends what it is, Rotten.
My guess is that the results of the Primary are now fairly widely known and some people are drawing inferences and betting accordingly. I don't have much of a problem with that to be honest. As you say, it is hard to police and the 'information' is not much more than one straw amongst many in the wind.
There are other instances though when I think liberties are taken and believe it or not there are rules - even laws - which are occasionally called into action.
But generally punters accept all that kind of stuff as part and parcel of the game.
Does that mean that neither of the Tory primary candidates are worth a mention and that they may be withdrawn before selection?
Either that or they've decided to defect.
Will they be stealing a submarine from the Russians?
Another £400 has just been placed on the Rochester Betfair market taking the UKIP odds down to 1.22. Getting close now to the position Carswell was in at a similar point before the election.
Seems mighty unfair that someone may have insider information and is betting on it. I guess very hard to police?
It depends what it is, Rotten.
My guess is that the results of the Primary are now fairly widely known and some people are drawing inferences and betting accordingly. I don't have much of a problem with that to be honest. As you say, it is hard to police and the 'information' is not much more than one straw amongst many in the wind.
There are other instances though when I think liberties are taken and believe it or not there are rules - even laws - which are occasionally called into action.
But generally punters accept all that kind of stuff as part and parcel of the game.
As long as the horse isn't doped :-)
Yeah, well doping tends not to be too much of an issue in political markets, Rotten.
Laying your own 'horse' is also a bit beyond the pale, and does occasionally happen in political betting.
Ramping is sharp practice, but no more than that. It is surprisingly common in political markets.
I have just seen the footage of a muslim woman being stoned to death for alleged adultery..I really cannot find the appropriate words to describe my disgust at the animals who carried out the sentence..especially her so called father... what sort of barbarity is this that hides behind the cloak of religion...
Western governments are slowly waking up to the fact that they have a significant fifth column in their midsts that will only increase as immigration from Muslim countries continues. They are importing wholesale the very things that are the severest threat to the lives of their indiginous populations and their democratic values.
It´d be racist. And the NUS would complain. And it´s thought crime. Plus Labour needs the votes.
Does anyone know what benefit Muslim immigration actually brings. That does not involve food or music.
Not looking good for the Tories. Perhaps the best they can hope for now is a near miss (sufficient to deter any further defectors) and hope to regain again in GE2015 next year, when UKIP's attentions are split elsewhere.
I have just seen the footage of a muslim woman being stoned to death for alleged adultery..I really cannot find the appropriate words to describe my disgust at the animals who carried out the sentence..especially her so called father... what sort of barbarity is this that hides behind the cloak of religion...
Western governments are slowly waking up to the fact that they have a significant fifth column in their midsts that will only increase as immigration from Muslim countries continues. They are importing wholesale the very things that are the severest threat to the lives of their indiginous populations and their democratic values.
It´d be racist. And the NUS would complain. And it´s thought crime. Plus Labour needs the votes.
Does anyone know what benefit Muslim immigration actually brings. That does not involve food or music.
Not looking good for the Tories. Perhaps the best they can hope for now is a near miss (sufficient to deter any further defectors) and hope to regain again in GE2015 next year, when UKIP's attentions are split elsewhere.
The problem is the Tories have decided to throw everything at this by-election when it might have been better to let it go and focus on the general election.
A leaflet has been received from the Conservative candidate, the old school chum of TSE.
And like Sherlock Holmes's dog which didn't bark in the night its interesting for what it keeps quiet about.
Now guess what it neglects to mention ? That's right certain criminal activities of recent years, the reason why there's an election taking place.
We are informed that the Conservative candidate is an engineer with four children and was on the board of NHS South Yorkshire but the word 'Rotherham' or the number '1400' or any reference to child sex abuse seems to have been forgotten.
The word 'Rotherham' does feature twice but only as the address of the Conservative candidate - Moorgate Street, Rotherham.
A few minutes walk from where children have been, and doubtless still are, getting raped.
This Conservative policy of Omerta on this issue really is curious.
Didn't the Conservative party once claim to be the party of 'law and order' ?
''Does anyone know what benefit Muslim immigration actually brings. That does not involve food or music. ''
UKIP posters talk far more about islam based issues than they do about Europe. And yet getting out of Europe will do nothing to solve this. Neither will any UKIP policy.
UKIP is a proxy for a large swathe of opinion that, whilst not wanting to appear racist, wants muslims to get the f8ck out.
Not looking good for the Tories. Perhaps the best they can hope for now is a near miss (sufficient to deter any further defectors) and hope to regain again in GE2015 next year, when UKIP's attentions are split elsewhere.
The problem is the Tories have decided to throw everything at this by-election when it might have been better to let it go and focus on the general election.
Yes. I can only imagine they were panicking about the former: further defectors. The fact they so obviously want to teach Reckless a lesson I'm sure hasn't gone unnoticed amongst the voters of R&S, who perhaps want to teach the Conservatives one as well.
''Does anyone know what benefit Muslim immigration actually brings. That does not involve food or music. ''
UKIP posters talk far more about islam based issues than they do about Europe. And yet getting out of Europe will do nothing to solve this. Neither will any UKIP policy.
UKIP is a proxy for a large swathe of opinion that, whilst not wanting to appear racist, wants muslims to get the f8ck out.
The EU's rules on free movement mean that once non-EU citizens have been granted the right to settle in one EU country, they can then move anywhere else in the EU. Most of the UK's Somali population has come from Holland.
I have just seen the footage of a muslim woman being stoned to death for alleged adultery..I really cannot find the appropriate words to describe my disgust at the animals who carried out the sentence..especially her so called father... what sort of barbarity is this that hides behind the cloak of religion...
Western governments are slowly waking up to the fact that they have a significant fifth column in their midsts that will only increase as immigration from Muslim countries continues. They are importing wholesale the very things that are the severest threat to the lives of their indiginous populations and their democratic values.
It´d be racist. And the NUS would complain. And it´s thought crime. Plus Labour needs the votes.
Does anyone know what benefit Muslim immigration actually brings. That does not involve food or music.
A leaflet has been received from the Conservative candidate, the old school chum of TSE.
And like Sherlock Holmes's dog which didn't bark in the night its interesting for what it keeps quiet about.
Now guess what it neglects to mention ? That's right certain criminal activities of recent years, the reason why there's an election taking place.
We are informed that the Conservative candidate is an engineer with four children and was on the board of NHS South Yorkshire but the word 'Rotherham' or the number '1400' or any reference to child sex abuse seems to have been forgotten.
The word 'Rotherham' does feature twice but only as the address of the Conservative candidate - Moorgate Street, Rotherham.
A few minutes walk from where children have been, and doubtless still are, getting raped.
This Conservative policy of Omerta on this issue really is curious.
Didn't the Conservative party once claim to be the party of 'law and order' ?
How do you think Mandie or Campbell would have played it. The Tories will lose because they simply don´t want to win.
''Does anyone know what benefit Muslim immigration actually brings. That does not involve food or music. ''
UKIP posters talk far more about islam based issues than they do about Europe. And yet getting out of Europe will do nothing to solve this. Neither will any UKIP policy.
UKIP is a proxy for a large swathe of opinion that, whilst not wanting to appear racist, wants muslims to get the f8ck out.
The EU's rules on free movement mean that once non-EU citizens have been granted the right to settle in one EU country, they can then move anywhere else in the EU. Most of the UK's Somali population has come from Holland.
There were anecdotes, which I can't verify, that many Somalis settled in Holland, some becoming involved in accusations of benefit queries. Many came to the UK to follow friends & family. At the last report that I saw only a small percentage were employed.
''Does anyone know what benefit Muslim immigration actually brings. That does not involve food or music. ''
UKIP posters talk far more about islam based issues than they do about Europe. And yet getting out of Europe will do nothing to solve this. Neither will any UKIP policy.
UKIP is a proxy for a large swathe of opinion that, whilst not wanting to appear racist, wants muslims to get the f8ck out.
Once out of Europe UKIP would presumably dump lots of the human rights "garbage" which would make it easier to deport undesirables.
However, perhaps you can elucidate on why Muslim immigration is good?
''Does anyone know what benefit Muslim immigration actually brings. That does not involve food or music. ''
UKIP posters talk far more about islam based issues than they do about Europe. And yet getting out of Europe will do nothing to solve this. Neither will any UKIP policy.
UKIP is a proxy for a large swathe of opinion that, whilst not wanting to appear racist, wants muslims to get the f8ck out.
The EU's rules on free movement mean that once non-EU citizens have been granted the right to settle in one EU country, they can then move anywhere else in the EU. Most of the UK's Somali population has come from Holland.
There were anecdotes, which I can't verify, that many Somalis settled in Holland, some becoming involved in accusations of benefit queries. Many came to the UK to follow friends & family. At the last report that I saw only a small percentage were employed.
There have been Somali communities in South Shields and Cardiff for many, many years. Mostly working on the docks or as seamen. Given the disaster area which is Somalia, going to join Gt Uncle Abdul sound a sensible option!
I'm confident that there will be a Rochester poll out tonight
I hope if there's a poll that it will be out early. I had a terrible day with my cat at the vets and I had many long nights this past week giving him his medication. Today I deserve some rest.
I wonder what the Ofsted reports on Rotherham say.
No wonder conspiracy theories exist.
Indeed. It's plainly obvious that local authorities can not be trusted to investigate this stuff. Any sane country would have a national police investigation led by a credible figure, and then followed up by an independent inquiry once all convictions have been secured. The only reason this isn't happening is because of a lack of moral fiber on behalf of leading politicians. Clegg and Cameron can't pass the buck for this, as they are ultimately responsible.
I wonder what the Ofsted reports on Rotherham say.
No wonder conspiracy theories exist.
Indeed. It's plainly obvious that local authorities can not be trusted to investigate this stuff. Any sane country would have a national police investigation led by a credible figure, and then followed up by an independent inquiry once all convictions have been secured. The only reason this isn't happening is because of a lack of moral fiber on behalf of leading politicians. Clegg and Cameron can't pass the buck for this, as they are ultimately responsible.
There is no FBI in this country, and even if there was we would still have a british version of the x-files.
''Does anyone know what benefit Muslim immigration actually brings. That does not involve food or music. ''
UKIP posters talk far more about islam based issues than they do about Europe. And yet getting out of Europe will do nothing to solve this. Neither will any UKIP policy.
UKIP is a proxy for a large swathe of opinion that, whilst not wanting to appear racist, wants muslims to get the f8ck out.
The EU's rules on free movement mean that once non-EU citizens have been granted the right to settle in one EU country, they can then move anywhere else in the EU. Most of the UK's Somali population has come from Holland.
There were anecdotes, which I can't verify, that many Somalis settled in Holland, some becoming involved in accusations of benefit queries. Many came to the UK to follow friends & family. At the last report that I saw only a small percentage were employed.
And of course Sweden is currently accepting every asylum case from Syria without question. A great many of these will come straight to London once they have citizenship. If you think 500 British jihadis existing right now is an issue, just wait 20 years. It's insane that we're not kicking up a fuss about this with Stockholm. But David Cameron cares more about political sensitivities then the wellbeing and security of the British people.
''Does anyone know what benefit Muslim immigration actually brings. That does not involve food or music. ''
UKIP posters talk far more about islam based issues than they do about Europe. And yet getting out of Europe will do nothing to solve this. Neither will any UKIP policy.
UKIP is a proxy for a large swathe of opinion that, whilst not wanting to appear racist, wants muslims to get the f8ck out.
The EU's rules on free movement mean that once non-EU citizens have been granted the right to settle in one EU country, they can then move anywhere else in the EU. Most of the UK's Somali population has come from Holland.
There were anecdotes, which I can't verify, that many Somalis settled in Holland, some becoming involved in accusations of benefit queries. Many came to the UK to follow friends & family. At the last report that I saw only a small percentage were employed.
And of course Sweden is currently accepting every asylum case from Syria without question. A great many of these will come straight to London once they have citizenship. If you think 500 British jihadis existing right now is an issue, just wait 20 years. It's insane that we're not kicking up a fuss about this with Stockholm. But David Cameron cares more about political sensitivities then the wellbeing and security of the British people.
Just wait 20 years and Sweden might be ruled by the Swedish Democrats at this rate.
I wonder what the Ofsted reports on Rotherham say.
No wonder conspiracy theories exist.
Indeed. It's plainly obvious that local authorities can not be trusted to investigate this stuff. Any sane country would have a national police investigation led by a credible figure, and then followed up by an independent inquiry once all convictions have been secured. The only reason this isn't happening is because of a lack of moral fiber on behalf of leading politicians. Clegg and Cameron can't pass the buck for this, as they are ultimately responsible.
There is no FBI in this country, and even if there was we would still have a british version of the x-files.
A leaflet has been received from the Conservative candidate, the old school chum of TSE.
And like Sherlock Holmes's dog which didn't bark in the night its interesting for what it keeps quiet about.
Now guess what it neglects to mention ? That's right certain criminal activities of recent years, the reason why there's an election taking place.
We are informed that the Conservative candidate is an engineer with four children and was on the board of NHS South Yorkshire but the word 'Rotherham' or the number '1400' or any reference to child sex abuse seems to have been forgotten.
The word 'Rotherham' does feature twice but only as the address of the Conservative candidate - Moorgate Street, Rotherham.
A few minutes walk from where children have been, and doubtless still are, getting raped.
This Conservative policy of Omerta on this issue really is curious.
Didn't the Conservative party once claim to be the party of 'law and order' ?
How do you think Mandie or Campbell would have played it. The Tories will lose because they simply don´t want to win.
They'd have got maximum political advantage out of it, as they did from the Stephen Lawrence Inquiry.
The Left is simply much better at politics than the Right, in this country.
''Does anyone know what benefit Muslim immigration actually brings. That does not involve food or music. ''
UKIP posters talk far more about islam based issues than they do about Europe. And yet getting out of Europe will do nothing to solve this. Neither will any UKIP policy.
UKIP is a proxy for a large swathe of opinion that, whilst not wanting to appear racist, wants muslims to get the f8ck out.
The EU's rules on free movement mean that once non-EU citizens have been granted the right to settle in one EU country, they can then move anywhere else in the EU. Most of the UK's Somali population has come from Holland.
There were anecdotes, which I can't verify, that many Somalis settled in Holland, some becoming involved in accusations of benefit queries. Many came to the UK to follow friends & family. At the last report that I saw only a small percentage were employed.
Make all benefits insurance based. Require five years of NI payment for full benefits.
This will discourage benefit tourism - or indeed any immigration from people who are not coming to work. It will also motivate potential school leavers (and their parents) It will mean that everyone should get the experience of actually working. Too many people have simply never had the experience of routine that a job brings. It will help recreate civil society. It will save us money. The economy will benefit from more people being work suitable It can be phased in - 6 months, then 1 year, etc.
''Does anyone know what benefit Muslim immigration actually brings. That does not involve food or music. ''
UKIP posters talk far more about islam based issues than they do about Europe. And yet getting out of Europe will do nothing to solve this. Neither will any UKIP policy.
UKIP is a proxy for a large swathe of opinion that, whilst not wanting to appear racist, wants muslims to get the f8ck out.
The EU's rules on free movement mean that once non-EU citizens have been granted the right to settle in one EU country, they can then move anywhere else in the EU. Most of the UK's Somali population has come from Holland.
''Does anyone know what benefit Muslim immigration actually brings. That does not involve food or music. ''
UKIP posters talk far more about islam based issues than they do about Europe. And yet getting out of Europe will do nothing to solve this. Neither will any UKIP policy.
UKIP is a proxy for a large swathe of opinion that, whilst not wanting to appear racist, wants muslims to get the f8ck out.
The EU's rules on free movement mean that once non-EU citizens have been granted the right to settle in one EU country, they can then move anywhere else in the EU. Most of the UK's Somali population has come from Holland.
I didn't know that. If we were talking about tax, that'd be called a loophole.
Just back from a chill afternoon on Newmarket Heath. Had an interesting chat with Steve Mellish about the fixture list for next year and the implications of the BHA moves to encourage fewer races with small fields.
But no one's interested are they? It's nothing to do with Rochester & Strood.
''Does anyone know what benefit Muslim immigration actually brings. That does not involve food or music. ''
UKIP posters talk far more about islam based issues than they do about Europe. And yet getting out of Europe will do nothing to solve this. Neither will any UKIP policy.
UKIP is a proxy for a large swathe of opinion that, whilst not wanting to appear racist, wants muslims to get the f8ck out.
The EU's rules on free movement mean that once non-EU citizens have been granted the right to settle in one EU country, they can then move anywhere else in the EU. Most of the UK's Somali population has come from Holland.
There were anecdotes, which I can't verify, that many Somalis settled in Holland, some becoming involved in accusations of benefit queries. Many came to the UK to follow friends & family. At the last report that I saw only a small percentage were employed.
And of course Sweden is currently accepting every asylum case from Syria without question. A great many of these will come straight to London once they have citizenship. If you think 500 British jihadis existing right now is an issue, just wait 20 years. It's insane that we're not kicking up a fuss about this with Stockholm. But David Cameron cares more about political sensitivities then the wellbeing and security of the British people.
Just wait 20 years and Sweden might be ruled by the Swedish Democrats at this rate.
The "Right Wing" Swedish parties preferred to transfer power to the Left, rather than form a coalition with them.
Just back from a chill afternoon on Newmarket Heath. Had an interesting chat with Steve Mellish about the fixture list for next year and the implications of the BHA moves to encourage fewer races with small fields.
But no one's interested are they? It's nothing to do with Rochester & Strood.
Ah well...
Ahem.
I am VERY interested. Small fields have severely dented my profits this year.
''Does anyone know what benefit Muslim immigration actually brings. That does not involve food or music. ''
UKIP posters talk far more about islam based issues than they do about Europe. And yet getting out of Europe will do nothing to solve this. Neither will any UKIP policy.
UKIP is a proxy for a large swathe of opinion that, whilst not wanting to appear racist, wants muslims to get the f8ck out.
The EU's rules on free movement mean that once non-EU citizens have been granted the right to settle in one EU country, they can then move anywhere else in the EU. Most of the UK's Somali population has come from Holland.
There were anecdotes, which I can't verify, that many Somalis settled in Holland, some becoming involved in accusations of benefit queries. Many came to the UK to follow friends & family. At the last report that I saw only a small percentage were employed.
Make all benefits insurance based. Require five years of NI payment for full benefits.
This will discourage benefit tourism - or indeed any immigration from people who are not coming to work. It will also motivate potential school leavers (and their parents) It will mean that everyone should get the experience of actually working. Too many people have simply never had the experience of routine that a job brings. It will help recreate civil society. It will save us money. The economy will benefit from more people being work suitable It can be phased in - 6 months, then 1 year, etc.
Stop letting in thousands of fundamentalist families originally from the world's warzones might also help.
I wonder what the Ofsted reports on Rotherham say.
No wonder conspiracy theories exist.
Indeed. It's plainly obvious that local authorities can not be trusted to investigate this stuff. Any sane country would have a national police investigation led by a credible figure, and then followed up by an independent inquiry once all convictions have been secured. The only reason this isn't happening is because of a lack of moral fiber on behalf of leading politicians. Clegg and Cameron can't pass the buck for this, as they are ultimately responsible.
There is no FBI in this country, and even if there was we would still have a british version of the x-files.
''Does anyone know what benefit Muslim immigration actually brings. That does not involve food or music. ''
UKIP posters talk far more about islam based issues than they do about Europe. And yet getting out of Europe will do nothing to solve this. Neither will any UKIP policy.
UKIP is a proxy for a large swathe of opinion that, whilst not wanting to appear racist, wants muslims to get the f8ck out.
The EU's rules on free movement mean that once non-EU citizens have been granted the right to settle in one EU country, they can then move anywhere else in the EU. Most of the UK's Somali population has come from Holland.
There were anecdotes, which I can't verify, that many Somalis settled in Holland, some becoming involved in accusations of benefit queries. Many came to the UK to follow friends & family. At the last report that I saw only a small percentage were employed.
Make all benefits insurance based. Require five years of NI payment for full benefits.
This will discourage benefit tourism - or indeed any immigration from people who are not coming to work. It will also motivate potential school leavers (and their parents) It will mean that everyone should get the experience of actually working. Too many people have simply never had the experience of routine that a job brings. It will help recreate civil society. It will save us money. The economy will benefit from more people being work suitable It can be phased in - 6 months, then 1 year, etc.
Such an obvious and sensible idea, Mr Robert, like many of your's. Like other such ideas you have put forward I wonder why no political party wants to even propose it as a draft policy.
''Does anyone know what benefit Muslim immigration actually brings. That does not involve food or music. ''
UKIP posters talk far more about islam based issues than they do about Europe. And yet getting out of Europe will do nothing to solve this. Neither will any UKIP policy.
UKIP is a proxy for a large swathe of opinion that, whilst not wanting to appear racist, wants muslims to get the f8ck out.
The EU's rules on free movement mean that once non-EU citizens have been granted the right to settle in one EU country, they can then move anywhere else in the EU. Most of the UK's Somali population has come from Holland.
There were anecdotes, which I can't verify, that many Somalis settled in Holland, some becoming involved in accusations of benefit queries. Many came to the UK to follow friends & family. At the last report that I saw only a small percentage were employed.
Make all benefits insurance based. Require five years of NI payment for full benefits.
This will discourage benefit tourism - or indeed any immigration from people who are not coming to work. It will also motivate potential school leavers (and their parents) It will mean that everyone should get the experience of actually working. Too many people have simply never had the experience of routine that a job brings. It will help recreate civil society. It will save us money. The economy will benefit from more people being work suitable It can be phased in - 6 months, then 1 year, etc.
''Does anyone know what benefit Muslim immigration actually brings. That does not involve food or music. ''
UKIP posters talk far more about islam based issues than they do about Europe. And yet getting out of Europe will do nothing to solve this. Neither will any UKIP policy.
UKIP is a proxy for a large swathe of opinion that, whilst not wanting to appear racist, wants muslims to get the f8ck out.
The EU's rules on free movement mean that once non-EU citizens have been granted the right to settle in one EU country, they can then move anywhere else in the EU. Most of the UK's Somali population has come from Holland.
There were anecdotes, which I can't verify, that many Somalis settled in Holland, some becoming involved in accusations of benefit queries. Many came to the UK to follow friends & family. At the last report that I saw only a small percentage were employed.
Make all benefits insurance based. Require five years of NI payment for full benefits.
This will discourage benefit tourism - or indeed any immigration from people who are not coming to work. It will also motivate potential school leavers (and their parents) It will mean that everyone should get the experience of actually working. Too many people have simply never had the experience of routine that a job brings. It will help recreate civil society. It will save us money. The economy will benefit from more people being work suitable It can be phased in - 6 months, then 1 year, etc.
Stop letting in thousands of fundamentalist families originally from the world's warzones might also help.
This isn't just an immigration thing.
We have created a monster: a system that disincentives British people from working, with all the negative consequences that flows from that.
Well it's the polar opposite of the West these days. Back in the cold war almost all terrorism was marxist. And before the world wars it was all anarchists, socialists and liberals.
''Does anyone know what benefit Muslim immigration actually brings. That does not involve food or music. ''
UKIP posters talk far more about islam based issues than they do about Europe. And yet getting out of Europe will do nothing to solve this. Neither will any UKIP policy.
UKIP is a proxy for a large swathe of opinion that, whilst not wanting to appear racist, wants muslims to get the f8ck out.
The EU's rules on free movement mean that once non-EU citizens have been granted the right to settle in one EU country, they can then move anywhere else in the EU. Most of the UK's Somali population has come from Holland.
There were anecdotes, which I can't verify, that many Somalis settled in Holland, some becoming involved in accusations of benefit queries. Many came to the UK to follow friends & family. At the last report that I saw only a small percentage were employed.
Make all benefits insurance based. Require five years of NI payment for full benefits.
This will discourage benefit tourism - or indeed any immigration from people who are not coming to work. It will also motivate potential school leavers (and their parents) It will mean that everyone should get the experience of actually working. Too many people have simply never had the experience of routine that a job brings. It will help recreate civil society. It will save us money. The economy will benefit from more people being work suitable It can be phased in - 6 months, then 1 year, etc.
Sinn Féin leader Gerry Adams has apologised to sex abuse victims "let down" by the IRA during the Troubles.
You've clearly not been following the story; Adams and SF are in deep shit over child abuse by IRA members.
According to the interviews with Chris Fay, the IRA were involved with high level British establishment abuse. The implications of the IRA working hand in glove with the intelligence services are so sensational -I don't think people have grasped it. Also consider all the random pardons handed out, and Sinn Fein's present rehabilitation. If true, it certainly rules out a full enquiry -far too much at stake.
Just back from a chill afternoon on Newmarket Heath. Had an interesting chat with Steve Mellish about the fixture list for next year and the implications of the BHA moves to encourage fewer races with small fields.
But no one's interested are they? It's nothing to do with Rochester & Strood.
Ah well...
Ahem.
I am VERY interested. Small fields have severely dented my profits this year.
Speak, Stodge.
I hate small fields as well, falsely run races are a nightmare. I make a bigger chunk of my profits from racing rather than football these days so any help going forward is good news.
''Does anyone know what benefit Muslim immigration actually brings. That does not involve food or music. ''
UKIP posters talk far more about islam based issues than they do about Europe. And yet getting out of Europe will do nothing to solve this. Neither will any UKIP policy.
UKIP is a proxy for a large swathe of opinion that, whilst not wanting to appear racist, wants muslims to get the f8ck out.
The EU's rules on free movement mean that once non-EU citizens have been granted the right to settle in one EU country, they can then move anywhere else in the EU. Most of the UK's Somali population has come from Holland.
There were anecdotes, which I can't verify, that many Somalis settled in Holland, some becoming involved in accusations of benefit queries. Many came to the UK to follow friends & family. At the last report that I saw only a small percentage were employed.
And of course Sweden is currently accepting every asylum case from Syria without question. A great many of these will come straight to London once they have citizenship. If you think 500 British jihadis existing right now is an issue, just wait 20 years. It's insane that we're not kicking up a fuss about this with Stockholm. But David Cameron cares more about political sensitivities then the wellbeing and security of the British people.
Just wait 20 years and Sweden might be ruled by the Swedish Democrats at this rate.
The "Right Wing" Swedish parties preferred to transfer power to the Left, rather than form a coalition with them.
''Does anyone know what benefit Muslim immigration actually brings. That does not involve food or music. ''
UKIP posters talk far more about islam based issues than they do about Europe. And yet getting out of Europe will do nothing to solve this. Neither will any UKIP policy.
UKIP is a proxy for a large swathe of opinion that, whilst not wanting to appear racist, wants muslims to get the f8ck out.
The EU's rules on free movement mean that once non-EU citizens have been granted the right to settle in one EU country, they can then move anywhere else in the EU. Most of the UK's Somali population has come from Holland.
''Does anyone know what benefit Muslim immigration actually brings. That does not involve food or music. ''
UKIP posters talk far more about islam based issues than they do about Europe. And yet getting out of Europe will do nothing to solve this. Neither will any UKIP policy.
UKIP is a proxy for a large swathe of opinion that, whilst not wanting to appear racist, wants muslims to get the f8ck out.
The EU's rules on free movement mean that once non-EU citizens have been granted the right to settle in one EU country, they can then move anywhere else in the EU. Most of the UK's Somali population has come from Holland.
I didn't know that. If we were talking about tax, that'd be called a loophole.
This would be why people keep harping on about EU immigration being good because it in some way displaces 'undesirables'. They just have no idea how the system works.
''Does anyone know what benefit Muslim immigration actually brings. That does not involve food or music. ''
UKIP posters talk far more about islam based issues than they do about Europe. And yet getting out of Europe will do nothing to solve this. Neither will any UKIP policy.
UKIP is a proxy for a large swathe of opinion that, whilst not wanting to appear racist, wants muslims to get the f8ck out.
The EU's rules on free movement mean that once non-EU citizens have been granted the right to settle in one EU country, they can then move anywhere else in the EU. Most of the UK's Somali population has come from Holland.
There were anecdotes, which I can't verify, that many Somalis settled in Holland, some becoming involved in accusations of benefit queries. Many came to the UK to follow friends & family. At the last report that I saw only a small percentage were employed.
Make all benefits insurance based. Require five years of NI payment for full benefits.
This will discourage benefit tourism - or indeed any immigration from people who are not coming to work. It will also motivate potential school leavers (and their parents) It will mean that everyone should get the experience of actually working. Too many people have simply never had the experience of routine that a job brings. It will help recreate civil society. It will save us money. The economy will benefit from more people being work suitable It can be phased in - 6 months, then 1 year, etc.
Stop letting in thousands of fundamentalist families originally from the world's warzones might also help.
This isn't just an immigration thing.
We have created a monster: a system that disincentives British people from working, with all the negative consequences that flows from that.
To be fair, the coalition have gone some way towards reforming that.
I don't think most immigrants move here for the benefits. They are just desperate to live in a safe, pleasant, liberal and tolerant country where there are prospects and they might be able to make a good living.
I have human sympathy for that, but we can't take the whole world in. The numbers are too high.
''Does anyone know what benefit Muslim immigration actually brings. That does not involve food or music. ''
UKIP posters talk far more about islam based issues than they do about Europe. And yet getting out of Europe will do nothing to solve this. Neither will any UKIP policy.
UKIP is a proxy for a large swathe of opinion that, whilst not wanting to appear racist, wants muslims to get the f8ck out.
The EU's rules on free movement mean that once non-EU citizens have been granted the right to settle in one EU country, they can then move anywhere else in the EU. Most of the UK's Somali population has come from Holland.
There were anecdotes, which I can't verify, that many Somalis settled in Holland, some becoming involved in accusations of benefit queries. Many came to the UK to follow friends & family. At the last report that I saw only a small percentage were employed.
Make all benefits insurance based. Require five years of NI payment for full benefits.
This will discourage benefit tourism - or indeed any immigration from people who are not coming to work. It will also motivate potential school leavers (and their parents) It will mean that everyone should get the experience of actually working. Too many people have simply never had the experience of routine that a job brings. It will help recreate civil society. It will save us money. The economy will benefit from more people being work suitable It can be phased in - 6 months, then 1 year, etc.
Migrants will only be eligible for benefits (in work or out of work) when they have been paying tax and NI for five years and will only be eligible for permanent residence after ten years.
I wonder what the Ofsted reports on Rotherham say.
No wonder conspiracy theories exist.
Indeed. It's plainly obvious that local authorities can not be trusted to investigate this stuff. Any sane country would have a national police investigation led by a credible figure, and then followed up by an independent inquiry once all convictions have been secured. The only reason this isn't happening is because of a lack of moral fiber on behalf of leading politicians. Clegg and Cameron can't pass the buck for this, as they are ultimately responsible.
There is no FBI in this country, and even if there was we would still have a british version of the x-files.
You can't call sitting on evidence an investigation.
The reason you don't hear much about the NCA investigating serious and organised crime is that like the Regional Crime Squads and the NCIS and the SOCA that were its forebears, it isn't very good at it. It costs a lot of money and spends huge resources developing intelligence and on analysis (particularly so-called strategic analysis), but when it comes to banging up serious villains they are pretty useless.
Sinn Féin leader Gerry Adams has apologised to sex abuse victims "let down" by the IRA during the Troubles.
You've clearly not been following the story; Adams and SF are in deep shit over child abuse by IRA members.
According to the interviews with Chris Fay, the IRA were involved with high level British establishment abuse. The implications of the IRA working hand in glove with the intelligence services are so sensational -I don't think people have grasped it. Also consider all the random pardons handed out, and Sinn Fein's present rehabilitation. If true, it certainly rules out a full enquiry -far too much at stake.
I don't see US drone strikes on untried people outside warzones on the list.
Terrorism is the targeting of civilians for the purpose of spreading a general terror among the population.
US drone strikes do not target civilians and are not done to spread a general terror.
In which case the attacks on the soldiers in Canada, nor most of the IRA's attacks, nor the attack on the USS Cole do not fall under the heading of terrorism.
And tell me: if you were in a country , perhaps a poor farmer, and missiles were falling on your country and regularly killing civilians (whether targetted on untargetted), do you think you would come to hate the country that cowardly killed without even putting themselves at risk?
I wonder what the Ofsted reports on Rotherham say.
No wonder conspiracy theories exist.
Indeed. It's plainly obvious that local authorities can not be trusted to investigate this stuff. Any sane country would have a national police investigation led by a credible figure, and then followed up by an independent inquiry once all convictions have been secured. The only reason this isn't happening is because of a lack of moral fiber on behalf of leading politicians. Clegg and Cameron can't pass the buck for this, as they are ultimately responsible.
There is no FBI in this country, and even if there was we would still have a british version of the x-files.
You can't call sitting on evidence an investigation.
The reason you don't hear much about the NCA investigating serious and organised crime is that like the Regional Crime Squads and the NCIS and the SOCA that were its forebears, it isn't very good at it. It costs a lot of money and spends huge resources developing intelligence and on analysis (particularly so-called strategic analysis), but when it comes to banging up serious villains they are pretty useless.
So they are good at trying to find the underground lair of Ernst Stavro Blofeld but not at anyone bellow him on the criminal scale.
''Does anyone know what benefit Muslim immigration actually brings. That does not involve food or music. ''
UKIP posters talk far more about islam based issues than they do about Europe. And yet getting out of Europe will do nothing to solve this. Neither will any UKIP policy.
UKIP is a proxy for a large swathe of opinion that, whilst not wanting to appear racist, wants muslims to get the f8ck out.
The EU's rules on free movement mean that once non-EU citizens have been granted the right to settle in one EU country, they can then move anywhere else in the EU. Most of the UK's Somali population has come from Holland.
There were anecdotes, which I can't verify, that many Somalis settled in Holland, some becoming involved in accusations of benefit queries. Many came to the UK to follow friends & family. At the last report that I saw only a small percentage were employed.
Make all benefits insurance based. Require five years of NI payment for full benefits.
This will discourage benefit tourism - or indeed any immigration from people who are not coming to work. It will also motivate potential school leavers (and their parents) It will mean that everyone should get the experience of actually working. Too many people have simply never had the experience of routine that a job brings. It will help recreate civil society. It will save us money. The economy will benefit from more people being work suitable It can be phased in - 6 months, then 1 year, etc.
Migrants will only be eligible for benefits (in work or out of work) when they have been paying tax and NI for five years and will only be eligible for permanent residence after ten years.
Then you're only addressing the first of my points. And - in fact - the majority of people who come over with visas from Canada or Australia or whatever already have "no recourse to the state" stamped on their visas.
My policy is for *nobody* to be eligible.
And this is important because you need to tackle both sides of the coin. Immigrants come here to work because there is work for them, and because there are too many people in this country who have not worked, will not work, and whose children will follow them in this pattern. We need to make sure the incentives to work and to get skilled are there.
I don't see US drone strikes on untried people outside warzones on the list.
Terrorism is the targeting of civilians for the purpose of spreading a general terror among the population.
US drone strikes do not target civilians and are not done to spread a general terror.
In which case the attacks on the soldiers in Canada, nor most of the IRA's attacks, nor the attack on the USS Cole do not fall under the heading of terrorism.
And tell me: if you were in a country , perhaps a poor farmer, and missiles were falling on your country and regularly killing civilians (whether targetted on untargetted), do you think you would come to hate the country that cowardly killed without even putting themselves at risk?
The situation in Canada is not clear yet, so let's wait to see what happened. But I agree that things like the attack on the USS Cole were not terrorism.
As for your question, it would entirely depend on what caused the country in question to fire the missiles in the first place. If it was a legitimate response to armed groups in my country waging war against them for immoral reasons, then, no I would not hate them. It's also no less moral to kill someone with a missile than with a sniper bullet.
I wonder what the Ofsted reports on Rotherham say.
No wonder conspiracy theories exist.
Indeed. It's plainly obvious that local authorities can not be trusted to investigate this stuff. Any sane country would have a national police investigation led by a credible figure, and then followed up by an independent inquiry once all convictions have been secured. The only reason this isn't happening is because of a lack of moral fiber on behalf of leading politicians. Clegg and Cameron can't pass the buck for this, as they are ultimately responsible.
There is no FBI in this country, and even if there was we would still have a british version of the x-files.
You can't call sitting on evidence an investigation.
The reason you don't hear much about the NCA investigating serious and organised crime is that like the Regional Crime Squads and the NCIS and the SOCA that were its forebears, it isn't very good at it. It costs a lot of money and spends huge resources developing intelligence and on analysis (particularly so-called strategic analysis), but when it comes to banging up serious villains they are pretty useless.
So they are good at trying to find the underground lair of Ernst Stavro Blofeld but not at anyone bellow him on the criminal scale.
Speedy, that sort of thing. In fact they could probably tell you exactly where the lair is and what colour wall paper it has, what pictures are in the downstairs loo, and what Blofeld has for breakfast. What they, and their forebears, seem completely incapable of doing is putting together any usable evidence to put Blofeld and his senior associates before a court. All that intelligence gathering and analysis is just a waste of time because it so seldom leads to serious criminals being put out of business.
Yep. Islam is having growing pains. Christianity had them too - probably much worse for the world in their effect. The problems of the Muslim's are a terrible thing - that doesn't for one moment mean that they are. The wider world has to get used to this I think. We can certainly try to help those in the faith that are against the extremists, but it sort of has to play itself out. The victims of any turmoil will mostly be Muslims anyway.
In a few hundred years Islam may well experience the malaise that Christianity experiences today.
However predictions for the future are precisely the sort of thing that got us into this mess. Unless my lottery ticket pays up tomorrow, and all of the world leaders simultaneously say the word 'halibut' then I'm pretty happy that not only am I incapable of predicting the future, but no one else is able to do so too.
PS Apologies to one and all for selecting the Halibut rather than the Haddock.
I see the media are up to their usual tricks again with their groundless smears against UKIP. The Mike Read calypso is in the grand old tradition of British racial comedy - cf. the Black and White Minstrel Show. As for their alliance with Janusz Korwin-Mikke, it is ludicrous, as the liberal press have done, to label him a 'holocaust denier'. The man is rather an apologist for Hitler, which needn't be the same thing at all!
I don't see US drone strikes on untried people outside warzones on the list.
Terrorism is the targeting of civilians for the purpose of spreading a general terror among the population.
US drone strikes do not target civilians and are not done to spread a general terror.
In which case the attacks on the soldiers in Canada, nor most of the IRA's attacks, nor the attack on the USS Cole do not fall under the heading of terrorism.
And tell me: if you were in a country , perhaps a poor farmer, and missiles were falling on your country and regularly killing civilians (whether targetted on untargetted), do you think you would come to hate the country that cowardly killed without even putting themselves at risk?
The situation in Canada is not clear yet, so let's wait to see what happened. But I agree that things like the attack on the USS Cole were not terrorism.
As for your question, it would entirely depend on what caused the country in question to fire the missiles in the first place. If it was a legitimate response to armed groups in my country waging war against them for immoral reasons, then, no I would not hate them. It's also no less moral to kill someone with a missile than with a sniper bullet.
While agree with you on the second point, I think that Ron Paul is broadly right that we do create blowback. Let me give you an example: If a foreign government took out - say - Abu Hamsa with a precision bomb on Finsbury Park Mosque and killed 20 innocent bystanders, and then kept doing similar, then even if the targets were understandable, I would start getting pretty pissed off (and I would be pretty terrorised by the idea that a bomb might land on me thanks to some inaccurate 'intelligence'). Drone strikes are only precision in the same way that the Brighton Hotel bombing was a precision attack on the head of the British state.
Yep. Islam is having growing pains. Christianity had them too - probably much worse for the world in their effect. The problems of the Muslim's are a terrible thing - that doesn't for one moment mean that they are. The wider world has to get used to this I think. We can certainly try to help those in the faith that are against the extremists, but it sort of has to play itself out. The victims of any turmoil will mostly be Muslims anyway.
I'm sorry, but this is a nonsense argument. The Bahai faith is only 150 years old and isn't killing people in large numbers. Unitarian Universalism is just half a century old and doesn't have any of these issues. If you want a big faith, Buddhism is a similar age to Islam and we don't have anywhere near as many Buddhist terrorists. It's nothing to do with age and "growing pains" is a completely incorrect term for it.
Sinn Féin leader Gerry Adams has apologised to sex abuse victims "let down" by the IRA during the Troubles.
You've clearly not been following the story; Adams and SF are in deep shit over child abuse by IRA members.
According to the interviews with Chris Fay, the IRA were involved with high level British establishment abuse. The implications of the IRA working hand in glove with the intelligence services are so sensational -I don't think people have grasped it. Also consider all the random pardons handed out, and Sinn Fein's present rehabilitation. If true, it certainly rules out a full enquiry -far too much at stake.
There are tales of the killing of a senior Royal by the IRA that are linked to this.
Well think about the Brighton Bomb and the assassination of Airey Neave. Both IRA, but does that mean they were backed by the British establishment, attacking Thatcher's insurgency? Airey Neave hated Heath and connived to oust him -was it Heath's revenge?
Sinn Féin leader Gerry Adams has apologised to sex abuse victims "let down" by the IRA during the Troubles.
You've clearly not been following the story; Adams and SF are in deep shit over child abuse by IRA members.
According to the interviews with Chris Fay, the IRA were involved with high level British establishment abuse. The implications of the IRA working hand in glove with the intelligence services are so sensational -I don't think people have grasped it. Also consider all the random pardons handed out, and Sinn Fein's present rehabilitation. If true, it certainly rules out a full enquiry -far too much at stake.
There are tales of the killing of a senior Royal by the IRA that are linked to this.
Well think about the Brighton Bomb and the assassination of Airey Neave. Both IRA, but does that mean they were backed by the British establishment, attacking Thatcher's insurgency? Airey Neave hated Heath and connived to oust him -was it Heath's revenge?
I was wondering how in both "A Very British Coup" and "House of Cards" the IRA is used as a cover to get rid of someone. How did that become a common thing?
Make all benefits insurance based. Require five years of NI payment for full benefits.
This will discourage benefit tourism - or indeed any immigration from people who are not coming to work. It will also motivate potential school leavers (and their parents) It will mean that everyone should get the experience of actually working. Too many people have simply never had the experience of routine that a job brings. It will help recreate civil society. It will save us money. The economy will benefit from more people being work suitable It can be phased in - 6 months, then 1 year, etc.
I can't say I agree.
The worker who is made redundant after two years of work seems to me to be no less deserving than he who has worked for five.
The eighteen year-old, kicked out by his parents, just left school, cannot access housing benefit.
The twenty-one year old mother can't get child benefit, whether or not she is married or single.
And if we were to construct some moral idea of desert, well, there would be no reason to suppose it correlated in the least with five years of work. The hardworking new school leaving is disparied at the expense of the fifty-year-old layabout who worked thirty years ago.
The drug addict who works down the cornershop on a Saturday is in a better position than the stay at home mum returning to work.
Iain Dale just said on the radio that he'd been emailed an R&S poll - which was, apparently, very interesting - but that he couldn't say more because it's embargoed til 10 o'clock.
And BTW - Mike Reid - what a load of old cobblers. But good for UKIP cos number one in the BBC most-read. Millions will be scratching their heads in bemusement. Harman must adjudicate - she's the expert.
In a few hundred years Islam may well experience the malaise that Christianity experiences today.
A small comfort to the many victims of islamist genocide in Iraq and Syria.
Head removed? Crucified? Raped and sold into slavery? Forced to convert and live a life of complete subjugation?
Just growing pains. We'll have to get used to it. It'll all blow over in a few hundred years...
Well of course you are right. But that does not mean that we cannot try to prevent the same level of deaths that we went through in our religious wars (and these are intra islamic wars). You can take your pick about the number killed in the 30 Years' War 7.5 million seems typical. 20% of the population of Germany is quoted. The Muslims have a long way to go yet. Its sad but it does seem necessary that nations must go through some terrible upheaval before coming to some sense. The English Civil War was a terrible thing but in the end it and the 30 Years War put an end to wars of 'christian' religion.
Yep. Islam is having growing pains. Christianity had them too - probably much worse for the world in their effect. The problems of the Muslim's are a terrible thing - that doesn't for one moment mean that they are. The wider world has to get used to this I think. We can certainly try to help those in the faith that are against the extremists, but it sort of has to play itself out. The victims of any turmoil will mostly be Muslims anyway.
In a few hundred years Islam may well experience the malaise that Christianity experiences today.
However predictions for the future are precisely the sort of thing that got us into this mess. Unless my lottery ticket pays up tomorrow, and all of the world leaders simultaneously say the word 'halibut' then I'm pretty happy that not only am I incapable of predicting the future, but no one else is able to do so too.
PS Apologies to one and all for selecting the Halibut rather than the Haddock.
Growing Pains!!!!! Sorry @Omnium but you are talking tripe! Islam is over 1,350 years old, how many years does Islam need to mature?
And don't talk nonsense about this being Islams Middle Ages. We are living in a modern capitalist world, not in feudal times, when the fastest thing on two legs was a camel escaping Arabia.
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"... This is heading our way."
Erm...I take it that by 'our' you mean 'we punters', Isam. Remember that you are a punter first and foremost, young man.
Laying your own 'horse' is also a bit beyond the pale, and does occasionally happen in political betting.
Ramping is sharp practice, but no more than that. It is surprisingly common in political markets.
Does anyone know what benefit Muslim immigration actually brings. That does not involve food or music.
Meanwhile ours is secretly planning a further 7.5% cut, next year.
And you can choose your friends but you're stuck with your relatives. Especially your in-laws!
I have a sneaking suspicion indyref introduced political betting to a handful of city traders, who have found themselves a new hobby.
A leaflet has been received from the Conservative candidate, the old school chum of TSE.
And like Sherlock Holmes's dog which didn't bark in the night its interesting for what it keeps quiet about.
Now guess what it neglects to mention ? That's right certain criminal activities of recent years, the reason why there's an election taking place.
We are informed that the Conservative candidate is an engineer with four children and was on the board of NHS South Yorkshire but the word 'Rotherham' or the number '1400' or any reference to child sex abuse seems to have been forgotten.
The word 'Rotherham' does feature twice but only as the address of the Conservative candidate - Moorgate Street, Rotherham.
A few minutes walk from where children have been, and doubtless still are, getting raped.
This Conservative policy of Omerta on this issue really is curious.
Didn't the Conservative party once claim to be the party of 'law and order' ?
With postal votes likely to be decisive UKIP really need to be more professional.
UKIP posters talk far more about islam based issues than they do about Europe. And yet getting out of Europe will do nothing to solve this. Neither will any UKIP policy.
UKIP is a proxy for a large swathe of opinion that, whilst not wanting to appear racist, wants muslims to get the f8ck out.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-29725855
LDs 10 points ahead, Mike?
' A cover-up led to Ofsted escaping blame for its part in the Baby P scandal, according to a BBC documentary.
Baby P: The Untold Story hears from an unidentified Ofsted inspector.
Assessment documentation of Haringey's children's services department "disappeared", the inspector said. '
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-29719352
I wonder what the Ofsted reports on Rotherham say.
How do you think Mandie or Campbell would have played it.
The Tories will lose because they simply don´t want to win.
Once out of Europe UKIP would presumably dump lots of the human rights "garbage" which would make it easier to deport undesirables.
However, perhaps you can elucidate on why Muslim immigration is good?
Outside central London - say zones 1-4. And the media world.
Given the disaster area which is Somalia, going to join Gt Uncle Abdul sound a sensible option!
I had a terrible day with my cat at the vets and I had many long nights this past week giving him his medication.
Today I deserve some rest.
The Left is simply much better at politics than the Right, in this country.
This will discourage benefit tourism - or indeed any immigration from people who are not coming to work.
It will also motivate potential school leavers (and their parents)
It will mean that everyone should get the experience of actually working. Too many people have simply never had the experience of routine that a job brings.
It will help recreate civil society.
It will save us money.
The economy will benefit from more people being work suitable
It can be phased in - 6 months, then 1 year, etc.
Just back from a chill afternoon on Newmarket Heath. Had an interesting chat with Steve Mellish about the fixture list for next year and the implications of the BHA moves to encourage fewer races with small fields.
But no one's interested are they? It's nothing to do with Rochester & Strood.
Ah well...
I am VERY interested. Small fields have severely dented my profits this year.
Speak, Stodge.
I haven't heard about this agency being involved with investigating serious crime or any crime.
Last thing on the news about them was this:
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-29600927
You can't call sitting on evidence an investigation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2014
Terrorism is almost entirely now a Muslim thing.
http://www.ukip.org/policies_for_people
We have created a monster: a system that disincentives British people from working, with all the negative consequences that flows from that.
Back in the cold war almost all terrorism was marxist.
And before the world wars it was all anarchists, socialists and liberals.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORU5x-ryedU
Learning from UKIP?
I don't think most immigrants move here for the benefits. They are just desperate to live in a safe, pleasant, liberal and tolerant country where there are prospects and they might be able to make a good living.
I have human sympathy for that, but we can't take the whole world in. The numbers are too high.
Migrants will only be eligible for benefits (in work or out of work) when they have been paying tax and NI for five years and will only be eligible for permanent residence after ten years.
US drone strikes do not target civilians and are not done to spread a general terror.
You can´t say that!!!!
The Beeb says so. Plus it´s the religion of peace, and of course the "vaaaaaaaaaaast majority" blah blah blah.
And tell me: if you were in a country , perhaps a poor farmer, and missiles were falling on your country and regularly killing civilians (whether targetted on untargetted), do you think you would come to hate the country that cowardly killed without even putting themselves at risk?
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/oct/22/facebook-uk-corporation-tax
My policy is for *nobody* to be eligible.
And this is important because you need to tackle both sides of the coin. Immigrants come here to work because there is work for them, and because there are too many people in this country who have not worked, will not work, and whose children will follow them in this pattern. We need to make sure the incentives to work and to get skilled are there.
Shock and Awe
As I said before, when countries do it it's not called terrorism but war.
The only difference is how you call it, the act remains the same.
As for your question, it would entirely depend on what caused the country in question to fire the missiles in the first place. If it was a legitimate response to armed groups in my country waging war against them for immoral reasons, then, no I would not hate them. It's also no less moral to kill someone with a missile than with a sniper bullet.
In a few hundred years Islam may well experience the malaise that Christianity experiences today.
However predictions for the future are precisely the sort of thing that got us into this mess. Unless my lottery ticket pays up tomorrow, and all of the world leaders simultaneously say the word 'halibut' then I'm pretty happy that not only am I incapable of predicting the future, but no one else is able to do so too.
PS Apologies to one and all for selecting the Halibut rather than the Haddock.
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-29724072
Now they will become a collectors item.
A small comfort to the many victims of islamist genocide in Iraq and Syria.
Head removed? Crucified? Raped and sold into slavery? Forced to convert and live a life of complete subjugation?
Just growing pains. We'll have to get used to it. It'll all blow over in a few hundred years...
Not everyone gives a siht about smartphones.
How did that become a common thing?
Stand by for ComRes constituency phone poll in Rochester & Strood at 10pm tonight.
The worker who is made redundant after two years of work seems to me to be no less deserving than he who has worked for five.
The eighteen year-old, kicked out by his parents, just left school, cannot access housing benefit.
The twenty-one year old mother can't get child benefit, whether or not she is married or single.
And if we were to construct some moral idea of desert, well, there would be no reason to suppose it correlated in the least with five years of work. The hardworking new school leaving is disparied at the expense of the fifty-year-old layabout who worked thirty years ago.
The drug addict who works down the cornershop on a Saturday is in a better position than the stay at home mum returning to work.
And BTW - Mike Reid - what a load of old cobblers. But good for UKIP cos number one in the BBC most-read. Millions will be scratching their heads in bemusement. Harman must adjudicate - she's the expert.
https://mobile.twitter.com/search?q=Rochester strood&s=typd
All I will say is that at the Euros, ComRes massively overstated UKIP.
So if they follow that trend, it'll push out the Tory price, so the possibility of backing the Tories as a trade later on.
Islam is over 1,350 years old, how many years does Islam need to mature?
And don't talk nonsense about this being Islams Middle Ages. We are living in a modern capitalist world, not in feudal times, when the fastest thing on two legs was a camel escaping Arabia.