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Poor old Jack his mission in Edinburgh is not going to well, the bottom is falling out of his ARSE
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I'm sorry but I'm not aware what you're talking about?
Jack your pathetic kidding on you are not actually there is incredible. Not going to well up in Edinburgh is it.
KW for JackW.
Malcolm I don't know you and there's no need to be rude to me. Jack is not in Edinburgh and only briefly visited there a few weeks ago.
I don't know you and I fail to see how you think I am being rude. Just pointing out that he was in Edinburgh on business , things are not going well on his NO campaign and if you are not him , pass on my best wishes for the continued failure of his mission , he has only a few more weeks to suffer and we will find the ARSE'S do not have it.
KW for JackW.
In the small number of posts for JackW over the past few weeks I've made it clear to Pb that they are posted by me and not Jack but have been undertaken for him on his Pb account.
LOL, Better comedy from you than usual Jack, how is Edinburgh today.
At the end of the day, the YES camp and supporters will be more motivated to vote on the day.
NO needs a much bigger lead going into the final part of campaigning.
A significant chunk of the current No support is extremely weak. Blame David Cameron for excluding Devo Max from the ballot paper. If he had allowed it then the Union would be rock-solid safe at this point.
I'm not sure the Devo-Max would have been acceptable to the UK though (without large changes to the Union). Once you get effective power over both taxation and spending, the Union is dead anyway,
Something very close to Devo Max will be the result whether Scotland votes yes or no.
That's true. And post Sept 19, even if it is No, there's going to be a lot of fall out on the implications of that.
Devo-Max changes Westminster hugely, and that needs to be considered.
Not to mention what any consequent changes will mean for Wales and Northern Ireland (and Cornwall).
@Rexel56 I don't expect energy to run out except in the case of "entropy" which will take an unimaginable amount of time, Even the case of oil, some will remain, but it's rarity will increase the price, which the world could cope with, except that fuel is only a small part of the petrochemical output. As an example. The worlds agricultural output relies heavily on the industry for fertilizer,and as it is becoming harder to extract, we need more of it to keep up food production. Your dream of capitalism alone having the answer is asinine, the market is driven by profit, and profit has no consciousness with which to see the direction it takes. The "state" is supposed to guide it, but in our topsy turvy world, it leads the state. (not that the "state" is much better, but it should be in theory if not in practice)
As oil runs out, the price will increase. As the price increases, it becomes economic to extract currently uneconomic reserves. Technology is the key here.
As the price increases, alternatives will be found: whether that is increased reliance on public transport, electric cars, hydrogen cars, artificial oil, etc. The key is to ensure that the alternative technologies are mature enough to take over when a shock occurs. Technology is the key here.
And technology is the killer.
The problem with your 'state' solution is that it requires backing a technological winner. Even the Russians at their most profligate rarely backed one or two alternatives, meaning that you have have to hope that one of those are the winners.
The private market, however, can try hundreds of things simultaneously. Little companies spring up trying a new approach, a new angle. Many fail, but others learn from those failures. Eventually one or two succeed. You can see this with drugs (which was why I was against the recent takeover attempt), the Internet, cars; everything.
It is an incredibly wasteful approach, but time and time again we see the private company approach work and bring new and improved technology to our lives.
When production, useful fusion power arrives, it will be from private industry, not the massive international schemes such as ITER.
What the state can do is act as an enabler of private industry Specify standards and enable cooperation. Encourage innovation.
At the end of the day, the YES camp and supporters will be more motivated to vote on the day.
NO needs a much bigger lead going into the final part of campaigning.
A significant chunk of the current No support is extremely weak. Blame David Cameron for excluding Devo Max from the ballot paper. If he had allowed it then the Union would be rock-solid safe at this point.
I'm not sure the Devo-Max would have been acceptable to the UK though (without large changes to the Union). Once you get effective power over both taxation and spending, the Union is dead anyway,
Something very close to Devo Max will be the result whether Scotland votes yes or no.
That's true. And post Sept 19, even if it is No, there's going to be a lot of fall out on the implications of that.
Devo-Max changes Westminster hugely, and that needs to be considered.
Not to mention what any consequent changes will mean for Wales and Northern Ireland (and Cornwall).
I'm sure plenty in both NI and Wales won't be happy about it at all, but I can't see Wales operating as a independent country.
Your dream of capitalism alone having the answer is asinine, the market is driven by profit, and profit has no consciousness with which to see the direction it takes. The "state" is supposed to guide it, but in our topsy turvy world, it leads the state. (not that the "state" is much better, but it should be in theory if not in practice)
An objective reading of history rather than a dream... and I note that even you lost faith in what you were writing the further you went... perhaps you were staring to wonder how the 'state' can have ''consciousness" whilst ' profit' cannot...
At the end of the day, the YES camp and supporters will be more motivated to vote on the day.
NO needs a much bigger lead going into the final part of campaigning.
A significant chunk of the current No support is extremely weak. Blame David Cameron for excluding Devo Max from the ballot paper. If he had allowed it then the Union would be rock-solid safe at this point.
Well, maybe... An alternative would have been to have a very clear, simple message that a No vote is a vote for Devomax because x, y and z will happen, in fact the legislation has already started... If there had been a DevoMax option and the responses to what that means had been as unconvincing as Darling on Employment powers then, well who knows...
- "a very clear, simple message that a No vote is a vote for Devomax because x, y and z will happen"
How is that compatible with Ruth Davidson's "line in the sand"? Or bampots like Foulkes? The long, long list of idiots within the Unionist ranks, both Con and Lab, would have made your proposition utterly impossible. The No camp would have fatally fractured.
Which is kind of the point I was trying to make.... Wouldn't BT have fatally undermined a DevoMax option on the ballot paper in just the ways you describe?
No, because if there had been three options on the ballot paper then there would have been no BT. There would have been a) the Yes Scotland campaign, and then two Unionist campaigns:
b) The Devo Max team, filled with Labs, LDs and probably most Greens
c) The Antediluvians, filled with the folk that really want the Scottish Parliament to be abolished but are too feart to say so
Guess which team the PB numpties would have been cheerleading
If the Scots do vote Yes, then it is certainly true that the whole of UK politics will be plunged into turmoil. Quite what the knock-on effect on the rest of the UK would be is anyone's guess, frankly, but I think SeanT is right that there would be a significant short-term economic and market effect, if only because of the uncertainty.
What is less often noted is that such a decision would also send shockwaves through the whole of the European Union. Of course Scotland per se is negligibly small in the overall European scheme, but the psychological impact of the UK breaking up, the possible implications for the EU referendum, and the boost which it would give to other separatist movements around Europe would be immense.
If you have investments it might be prudent to review them to see how Salmond-proof they are.
Scottish waters contain 95% of the European Union's oil reserves. Hardly "negligible".
I think you'll find those are UK reserves old chap. The UK you want to leave but that will still be there if - inshallah - you do.
The optimum English bet on the indyref is surely to bet against Yes. If Yes wins you make so much money out of Scotland going that you don't care you lost a bet. When Yes loses your bet pays out to compensate you.
At the end of the day, the YES camp and supporters will be more motivated to vote on the day.
NO needs a much bigger lead going into the final part of campaigning.
A significant chunk of the current No support is extremely weak. Blame David Cameron for excluding Devo Max from the ballot paper. If he had allowed it then the Union would be rock-solid safe at this point.
Well, maybe... An alternative would have been to have a very clear, simple message that a No vote is a vote for Devomax because x, y and z will happen, in fact the legislation has already started... If there had been a DevoMax option and the responses to what that means had been as unconvincing as Darling on Employment powers then, well who knows...
- "a very clear, simple message that a No vote is a vote for Devomax because x, y and z will happen"
How is that compatible with Ruth Davidson's "line in the sand"? Or bampots like Foulkes? The long, long list of idiots within the Unionist ranks, both Con and Lab, would have made your proposition utterly impossible. The No camp would have fatally fractured.
Which is kind of the point I was trying to make.... Wouldn't BT have fatally undermined a DevoMax option on the ballot paper in just the ways you describe?
No, because if there had been three options on the ballot paper then there would have been no BT. There would have been a) the Yes Scotland campaign, and then two Unionist campaigns:
b) The Devo Max team, filled with Labs, LDs and probably most Greens
c) The Antediluvians, filled with the folk that really want the Scottish Parliament to be abolished but are too feart to say so
Guess which team the PB numpties would have been cheerleading
Ah, I hadn't thought there would be three campaigns... Doh!
"Your dream of capitalism alone having the answer is asinine"
Well it seems to have worked so far. Capitalism has produced the goods for the last 4,000 years of human history is there any reason why it should not do in the future?
As a side issue the population of the planet is now starting to plateau. It would seem we have already reached the peak number of children as they grow old our population problem might turn out to be not enough people of working age.
If the Scots do vote Yes, then it is certainly true that the whole of UK politics will be plunged into turmoil. Quite what the knock-on effect on the rest of the UK would be is anyone's guess, frankly, but I think SeanT is right that there would be a significant short-term economic and market effect, if only because of the uncertainty.
What is less often noted is that such a decision would also send shockwaves through the whole of the European Union. Of course Scotland per se is negligibly small in the overall European scheme, but the psychological impact of the UK breaking up, the possible implications for the EU referendum, and the boost which it would give to other separatist movements around Europe would be immense.
If you have investments it might be prudent to review them to see how Salmond-proof they are.
Scottish waters contain 95% of the European Union's oil reserves. Hardly "negligible".
Source, please.
On an internationally comparable basis Scotland is estimated to have the largest oil reserves in the European Union, accounting for nearly 60 per cent of total EU reserves.
Des anyone know, or have a good estimate, of the number of Scottish electors who aren't Scottish? If the "No" majority is smaller than that number the fireworks will surely fly - and I'm not talking celebration, either...
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So, now the independence referendum is reduced to the status of "a survey" is it? Ho ho. Look who's losing.
Just 16 days to save the Yoonyun.
No it's a vote Stuart, but the picking around to isolate groups of voters is just the usual SNP crap.
And as for losing YES hasn't been ahead once in the campaign, it shows you chaps can't do maths.
Picking around to isolate groups of voters is just the usual Unionist crap. It was Innocent-Abroad who raised the issue, not me.
The polls are plain wrong. They still are. Even that YG last night. The weightings are totally bonkers. And that is before you even start to address their heavily contaminated database of (ahem) "respondents".
Well we'll see Stuart, however you have declared victory without the inconvenience of a vote. Personally I think NO will still win.
No I have not. At no point have I ever said that Yes will emerge victorious. Unlike vast numbers of PB Tories I do not count my chickens before they have hatched, and it does you no credit to tell blatant untruths about my record.
For the umpteenth time: I do not have a clue which side will win. All I know is that it will be close.
Also for the record, my best guess is that Yes is currently slightly ahead at this moment (over 2 weeks out). Perhaps in the ballpark of 53% Yes 47% No. But what worries me slightly is the Quebec precedent, where there was a small and extremely late swing back to No, which was just enough to take them over the winning line.
GOTV and differential turnout will decide it.
Shadsys Yes 5% band at 50% was a lot better value than the overall yes odds.
Yes over 55% is my worst outcome in terms of betting, particularly if turnout is low.
- "Shadsys Yes 5% band at 50% was a lot better value than the overall yes odds."
Still is. Shadsy's Yes vote % at 50-55% is still priced at 4/1, whereas the best Yes price is currently 3/1.
It looks like a no-brainer, but Yes could still break 55%. The late Quebec swingback to No might be a precedent, but then, on the other hand, it might not!
Well as I said and thought here comes the inevitable legal action from the family.
They will be taking legal action against the doctors who libelled him [Mr King] in the hospital and they will file a criminal complaint for false detention and libel
Source - Daily Mail
I often think the libel laws in this country suppress free speech, but in this case the hospital are bang to rights. The family will win this case easily as the hospital did not obtain guardianship of the child. All so avoidable.
If the Scots do vote Yes, then it is certainly true that the whole of UK politics will be plunged into turmoil. Quite what the knock-on effect on the rest of the UK would be is anyone's guess, frankly, but I think SeanT is right that there would be a significant short-term economic and market effect, if only because of the uncertainty.
What is less often noted is that such a decision would also send shockwaves through the whole of the European Union. Of course Scotland per se is negligibly small in the overall European scheme, but the psychological impact of the UK breaking up, the possible implications for the EU referendum, and the boost which it would give to other separatist movements around Europe would be immense.
If you have investments it might be prudent to review them to see how Salmond-proof they are.
Scottish waters contain 95% of the European Union's oil reserves. Hardly "negligible".
Source, please.
On an internationally comparable basis Scotland is estimated to have the largest oil reserves in the European Union, accounting for nearly 60 per cent of total EU reserves.
Well as I said and thought here comes the inevitable legal action from the family.
They will be taking legal action against the doctors who libelled him [Mr King] in the hospital and they will file a criminal complaint for false detention and libel
Source - Daily Mail
I often think the libel laws in this country suppress free speech, but in this case the hospital are bang to rights. The family will win this case easily as the hospital did not obtain guardianship of the child. All so avoidable.
If it is a criminal complaint, is your last paragraph appropriate?
@JosiasJessop The tools private enterprise uses are generally funded by the "state" initially, as is the case with ITER and the other experimental set ups. After that, private enterprise will take it forward if it can see a profit in the terms in which it thinks (short to medium term mostly). Yes, new technologies can supply answers to many problems, but you are still running up against the major one, unfettered capitalism is essentially greedy, and greed is not sustainable. Smaller "state" means giving more power to "capital" with its fixation for the short/medium term. The world is not getting smaller, but humanity is getting bigger, and more demanding. How will the market solve that problem?
Where is the money coming from to build this ? Cost would exceed £100 billion and take much longer to build. Gatwick and Heathrow are already there, with it being much cheaper and easier to build additional capacity.
Also some relief can be provided by boosting flights from Birmingham, Glasgow and Manchester. When I have spoken to other passengers on flights, it has amazed me how they have spent hours travelling to Heathrow just to get a flight for a holiday. If there was a flight option at a nearer airport they would have taken it. Quite a lot of people from parts of the UK get flights to other European hub airports to fly to long haul destinations, because it is cheaper and/or more convenient.
One quirk is that it's actually very difficult using Expedia etc. to answer the question: "How can I fly most cheaply from England to (say) Argentina?" because you have to try each city in turn. This matters if you don't live in an airport city. When in Nottingham, I had to do separate searches for East Midlands, Birmingham, Manchester and London, all of them in comparable reach in terms of ground journey. I reckon that a site that offered an "airport within 100 miles" option would do well.
Quite. Sometimes I really do wonder if these people have lost all their common sense.
Chief Constables are generally very smart, but they live in a control bubble like politicians. I can't see any rational reason for doing what they've done.
>The Kings say they are going to take legal action against Southampton General Hospital
Personally I hope they take action against the Assistant Chief Constable as well, since I can se e little valid reason for using criminal procedures against people who seem to have committed no offence, complete with a full-on media witch-hunt.
If yes, whence next? Something close to Devo Max for Wales, with the consequent further hamstringing of the lefty brigade at Westminster, a devolved Cornish parliament, and growing pressure regionally as regional identity comes to the fore. Federate or implode. Welcome to the United Kingdom of federal states, leave Westminster as a crumbling ruin, with it's self-serving imbeciles left to deliberate over the handful of matters that cannot be run on a state by state basis. Big advantages - The Kingdom of East Anglia will be permanently free of socialist rule, Northumbria will be free of Tory rule, as will Gods Toilet, the Socialist Republic of Yorkshire. Plus, the federated states will no longer be a honey pot for benefit tourists. The Heptarchy will rise again. Good riddance to the crap behind it.
If the Scots do vote Yes, then it is certainly true that the whole of UK politics will be plunged into turmoil. Quite what the knock-on effect on the rest of the UK would be is anyone's guess, frankly, but I think SeanT is right that there would be a significant short-term economic and market effect, if only because of the uncertainty.
What is less often noted is that such a decision would also send shockwaves through the whole of the European Union. Of course Scotland per se is negligibly small in the overall European scheme, but the psychological impact of the UK breaking up, the possible implications for the EU referendum, and the boost which it would give to other separatist movements around Europe would be immense.
If you have investments it might be prudent to review them to see how Salmond-proof they are.
Scottish waters contain 95% of the European Union's oil reserves. Hardly "negligible".
Source, please.
On an internationally comparable basis Scotland is estimated to have the largest oil reserves in the European Union, accounting for nearly 60 per cent of total EU reserves.
@JosiasJessop The tools private enterprise uses are generally funded by the "state" initially, as is the case with ITER and the other experimental set ups. After that, private enterprise will take it forward if it can see a profit in the terms in which it thinks (short to medium term mostly). Yes, new technologies can supply answers to many problems, but you are still running up against the major one, unfettered capitalism is essentially greedy, and greed is not sustainable. Smaller "state" means giving more power to "capital" with its fixation for the short/medium term. The world is not getting smaller, but humanity is getting bigger, and more demanding. How will the market solve that problem?
"The tools private enterprise uses are generally funded by the "state" initially"
Rubbish. Large projects are the exception rather than the rule. They have a place: CERN in particular has been an unqualified success, and the basic idea of the WWW originated there (even if the concept had been around for yonks, and it was taken on and expanded due to private industry).
As I've said, there is a role for the state to act as an enabler. But your statist approach has been shown to fail time and time again. Look at British aircraft production: the Barabazon and Concorde were both technical triumphs but economic disasters because the government utterly misread the markets.
The four councillors suspended by Labour are named in The Times. One is now Dept Dir of Children Servs at Doncaster. She was previously at Leeds when she left under a cloud following guess what... yes the gang rape of a child by a group of men...
After leaving Rotherham council, Ms Wilson spent two and a half years at Leeds as chief officer for children and young people’s social care. She left in December 2011, a month after The Times revealed the cases of five teenage girls from West Yorkshire who had been groomed and plied with drugs and alcohol before being sexually exploited.
One victim from Leeds tried to commit suicide in 2010 at the age of 16 after police and social services had failed to act on information that she was being gang-raped and sold for sex.
Chief Constable David Crompton said "A fully independent and impartial investigation is required to ensure that people have confidence that organisations or any individuals will be investigated fairly, rigorously and with complete impartiality.
Does this mean it's a criminal investigation rather than another inquiry into what happened?
If yes, whence next? Something close to Devo Max for Wales, with the consequent further hamstringing of the lefty brigade at Westminster, a devolved Cornish parliament, and growing pressure regionally as regional identity comes to the fore. Federate or implode. Welcome to the United Kingdom of federal states, leave Westminster as a crumbling ruin, with it's self-serving imbeciles left to deliberate over the handful of matters that cannot be run on a state by state basis. Big advantages - The Kingdom of East Anglia will be permanently free of socialist rule, Northumbria will be free of Tory rule, as will Gods Toilet, the Socialist Republic of Yorkshire. Plus, the federated states will no longer be a honey pot for benefit tourists. The Heptarchy will rise again. Good riddance to the crap behind it.
The problem with regional parliments and Devo-Max all round, is that if you want to have control of spending, then a rather large amount of resentment is going to build up over whoever foots the bill for that.
You can have an argument all day over the question if Scotland pays its way or not, but when it comes to Wales, or Cornwall etc, then the answer is certainly no...
The Proclaimers’ pro-independence anthem Cap in Hand has soared to the top of the download charts after a campaign was launched to make it the Number One UK single.
Yes-supporting activists want to see it dominate the airwaves in the final weeks of the campaign and a social media drive pushed it to the top of the Amazon singles chart last night.
I could tell the meaning of a word like serene I got some 'O' Grades when I was sixteen I can tell the difference between magarine and butter I can say "Saskatchewan" without starting to stutter
But I can't understand why we let someone else rule our land, cap in hand
@HurstLlama For most of the last 4,000 years my dear historian, the population was less, and it's acquisitiveness was mostly sustainable and self limiting, The form of capitalism that we live with now has only really taken off since the industrial revolution, and it's exponential growth is now coming up against some basic facts. There may indeed be a time when these limits can be overcome, but not at the moment. Nuclear power, energy too cheap to meter? You know that that turned out to be impossible due to the availability of uranium production, and the dream of a nuclear powered world is impossible with the current technology. To be blunt, the dream came up against the hard facts of resources.
If yes, whence next? Something close to Devo Max for Wales, with the consequent further hamstringing of the lefty brigade at Westminster, a devolved Cornish parliament, and growing pressure regionally as regional identity comes to the fore. Federate or implode. Welcome to the United Kingdom of federal states, leave Westminster as a crumbling ruin, with it's self-serving imbeciles left to deliberate over the handful of matters that cannot be run on a state by state basis. Big advantages - The Kingdom of East Anglia will be permanently free of socialist rule, Northumbria will be free of Tory rule, as will Gods Toilet, the Socialist Republic of Yorkshire. Plus, the federated states will no longer be a honey pot for benefit tourists. The Heptarchy will rise again. Good riddance to the crap behind it.
The problem with regional parliments and Devo-Max all round, is that if you want to have control of spending, then a rather large amount of resentment is going to build up over whoever foots the bill for that.
You can have an argument all day over the question if Scotland pays its way or not, but when it comes to Wales, or Cornwall etc, then the answer is certainly no...
@HurstLlama For most of the last 4,000 years my dear historian, the population was less, and it's acquisitiveness was mostly sustainable and self limiting, The form of capitalism that we live with now has only really taken off since the industrial revolution, and it's exponential growth is now coming up against some basic facts. There may indeed be a time when these limits can be overcome, but not at the moment. Nuclear power, energy too cheap to meter? You know that that turned out to be impossible due to the availability of uranium production, and the dream of a nuclear powered world is impossible with the current technology. To be blunt, the dream came up against the hard facts of resources.
So what you're saying is the problem with Capitalism is that it's too successful.....
The breaking news is that WIND is reporting to the JNN the contents of the latest ARSE 2015 General Election and "JackW Dozen" Projections. (Change from 19th August Projection) :
Con 307 (-7) .. Lab 277 (+4) .. LibDem 32 .. SNP 8 .. PC 2 .. NI 18 .. UKIP 3 (+2) .. Respect 1 (+1) .. Green 1 .. Ind 0 .. Speaker 1
Conservatives 19 seats short of a majority Labour 49 seats short of a majority ......................................................................................
"JackW Dozen" - 13 seats that will shape the General Election result :
Bury North - TCTC Pudsey - TCTC Broxtowe - Likely Lab Gain Warwickshire North - Likely Lab Gain Cambridge - Likely LibDem Hold Ipswich - TCTC Watford - TCTC Croydon Central - Likely Con Hold Enfield - TCTC Cornwall North - TCTC Great Yarmouth - Con Hold Vale of Glamorgan - Con Hold Ochil and South Perthshire - Likely Lab Hold
Changes From 19th August - Bury North moves from Likely Con Hold to TCTC
TCTC - Too Close To Call - Less than 500 votes Likely Hold/Gain - 500 - 2500 votes Gain/Hold - Over 2500 votes .......................................................................................
WIND - Whimsical Independent News Division JNN - Jacobite News Network ARSE - Anonymous Random Selection of Electors
The Proclaimers’ pro-independence anthem Cap in Hand has soared to the top of the download charts after a campaign was launched to make it the Number One UK single.
Yes-supporting activists want to see it dominate the airwaves in the final weeks of the campaign and a social media drive pushed it to the top of the Amazon singles chart last night.
I could tell the meaning of a word like serene I got some 'O' Grades when I was sixteen I can tell the difference between magarine and butter I can say "Saskatchewan" without starting to stutter
But I can't understand why we let someone else rule our land, cap in hand
Does it mention "95% of the EU's oil reserves are in Scotland's waters" ?
The four councillors suspended by Labour are named in The Times. One is now Dept Dir of Children Servs at Doncaster. She was previously at Leeds when she left under a cloud following guess what... yes the gang rape of a child by a group of men...
After leaving Rotherham council, Ms Wilson spent two and a half years at Leeds as chief officer for children and young people’s social care. She left in December 2011, a month after The Times revealed the cases of five teenage girls from West Yorkshire who had been groomed and plied with drugs and alcohol before being sexually exploited.
One victim from Leeds tried to commit suicide in 2010 at the age of 16 after police and social services had failed to act on information that she was being gang-raped and sold for sex.
Chief Constable David Crompton said "A fully independent and impartial investigation is required to ensure that people have confidence that organisations or any individuals will be investigated fairly, rigorously and with complete impartiality.
Does this mean it's a criminal investigation rather than another inquiry into what happened?
Labours dirty little secret coming home to roost. Blind eye Ed and the party of national shame.
@Slackbladder In essence yes, Like many organisms, it continues on with it's expansion until it hits the limits of the resources, whereupon it crashes, and if it has changed it's environment too radically before the crash, it become extinct or evolves into something more suitable.
Some good work by the BBC. And to think Guardian columns have on a number of occasions argued that political correctness is not responsible for 'Rotherham'
They really should be ashamed. Read the threads and you find out some Guardian readers are.
@Slackbladder In essence yes, Like many organisms, it continues on with it's expansion until it hits the limits of the resources, whereupon it crashes, and if it has changed it's environment too radically before the crash, it become extinct or evolves into something more suitable.
A fine description of how capitalism works and why it is so successful at maximising value from a given set of constraints.... Now, how that value is distributed is worthy of debate...
@HurstLlama For most of the last 4,000 years my dear historian, the population was less, and it's acquisitiveness was mostly sustainable and self limiting, The form of capitalism that we live with now has only really taken off since the industrial revolution, and it's exponential growth is now coming up against some basic facts. There may indeed be a time when these limits can be overcome, but not at the moment. Nuclear power, energy too cheap to meter? You know that that turned out to be impossible due to the availability of uranium production, and the dream of a nuclear powered world is impossible with the current technology. To be blunt, the dream came up against the hard facts of resources.
Interesting that you mention Nuclear energy - that was the technology that was state driven.
Anyway, off out for a nice lunch. Play nicely everyone.
@Rexel56 How it is distributed, and also how it can be sustained so that it flourishes and it's benefits reaped? The debate is not that capitalism is wrong in itself, it is that it has no interest in the world and it's population except as a food source on which it feeds, and it's rules tend towards channeling the food into a smaller number of mouths that also eats it's smaller relatives. It doesn't even help it's own "biodiversity"?
Mary Pitcaithly, the chief counting officer for the referendum:
"A high turnout is expected on the day, but we have taken steps to address this by allocating a maximum of 800 electors to each polling place across the country. This will help to ensure everyone can cast their vote without having to queue for an unacceptable amount of time."
@Rexel56 How it is distributed, and also how it can be sustained so that it flourishes and it's benefits reaped? The debate is not that capitalism is wrong in itself, it is that it has no interest in the world and it's population except as a food source on which it feeds, and it's rules tend towards channeling the food into a smaller number of mouths that also eats it's smaller relatives. It doesn't even help it's own "biodiversity"?
How to avoid capital being concentrated in fewer individuals is also worthy of debate and an appropriate concern of the state nationally and, here's the difficult bit, internationally.
Thousands of people have registered to vote in Scotland in the past week
As of 1 August, there were nearly 4.2 million people registered to vote and more than 680,000 with postal votes. Those figures are growing daily.
Mary Pitcaithly, chief counting officer for the Scottish independence referendum, said: "The referendum has prompted high levels of interest, with increasing numbers of people registering to vote and applying for postal votes.
"Electoral registration offices across Scotland are handling a high volume of inquiries and registrations. All offices have planned their processes and resources accordingly to handle the increase in inquiries as we approach the deadline for registration.
"Everyone who submits a valid application to the register by the deadline will be able to vote in the referendum."
Douglas Carswell's interview on Conhome is interesting.
He seems to argue it would take the resolve of ten Margaret Thatchers to put the foreign office from its course of Britain becoming a fully fledged member of a European superstate.
It is the FO, and not the government, that is in total charge of policy. Cameron is just there to appease the voter.
With Gordo Brown's outstanding record as a jonah, is it any wonder the no vote has declined so much since he got significantly more involved in the campaign?
Has he learnt any self awareness whilst sulking since 2010, and its all a cunning masterplan so he can lead a post independence Scotland?
With Gordo Brown's outstanding record as a jonah, is it any wonder the no vote has declined so much since he got significantly more involved in the campaign?
Has he learnt any self awareness whilst sulking since 2010, and its all a cunning masterplan so he can lead a post independence Scotland?
He was popular in Scotland, Labour saw their share of the vote go up in 2010.
With Gordo Brown's outstanding record as a jonah, is it any wonder the no vote has declined so much since he got significantly more involved in the campaign?
Has he learnt any self awareness whilst sulking since 2010, and its all a cunning masterplan so he can lead a post independence Scotland?
He was popular in Scotland, Labour saw their share of the vote go up in 2010.
It would be more accurate to say that he was less unpopular than David Cameron. A lot less unpopular.
Richard Graham (Gloucester) (Con): The Prime Minister rightly said that ISIL activities are deplored by the vast majority of British Muslims, but, none the less, various events and reports this summer have led to a growing unease about the role of Islam in our country. The battle that is harder than the one for air supremacy on the Iraqi border is therefore the one for community cohesion here in the UK. I believe the time has come for a charter, which would be a public commitment by community and faith leaders, especially including mosque committees, against extremism and for our values to help to prevent citizens from acting against our country. This could be done locally—I would happily lead on it Gloucester—but does my right hon. Friend agree that a single national charter implemented across the country could have the real benefit of bringing our communities together, which is our best defence against extremism of all kinds?
The Prime Minister: I think my hon. Friend makes an interesting suggestion. I would say that these initiatives have far greater power if they are generated by the communities themselves. It has been noticeable how many leaders of Britain’s Muslim communities—mosques, community groups and others—have come out and condemned what ISIL stands for and the other things that we have seen. So if there was going to be such a charter, I would want to see it generated from within that community rather than imposed on it.
With Gordo Brown's outstanding record as a jonah, is it any wonder the no vote has declined so much since he got significantly more involved in the campaign?
Has he learnt any self awareness whilst sulking since 2010, and its all a cunning masterplan so he can lead a post independence Scotland?
He was popular in Scotland, Labour saw their share of the vote go up in 2010.
It would be more accurate to say that he was less unpopular than David Cameron. A lot less unpopular.
Gordon Brown was also less unpopular than the SNP, Lab up 2.5%, SNP up 2.3% Con up 0.9%
With Gordo Brown's outstanding record as a jonah, is it any wonder the no vote has declined so much since he got significantly more involved in the campaign?
Has he learnt any self awareness whilst sulking since 2010, and its all a cunning masterplan so he can lead a post independence Scotland?
He's been stuck on the khazi since 2010 with constipation. In other words. He's just been getting on with the job(bie)
With Gordo Brown's outstanding record as a jonah, is it any wonder the no vote has declined so much since he got significantly more involved in the campaign?
Has he learnt any self awareness whilst sulking since 2010, and its all a cunning masterplan so he can lead a post independence Scotland?
He was popular in Scotland, Labour saw their share of the vote go up in 2010.
Makes sense. Broon wrecked the economy; most of the economy is in England; therefore Broon harmed England; therefore he became more popular in Scotland.
UKIP MEP Gerard Batten proposed a Muslim Charter long ago... Yesterday a Cobservative MP did the same and Cameron didn't disagree....
What will these outraged folk have to say?
Rehman Chishti, the Conservative MP for Gillingham and Rainham, said Batten's position was "shocking", particularly the "charter of understanding" suggestion that parts of the Qur'an should be rendered "inapplicable". "If Nigel Farage had any credibility, he would quite clearly not allow this individual to stand for office in Ukip," he said.
Sadiq Khan, Labour's shadow London minister, also said he was "appalled at the ignorance that Gerard Batten appears to have shown when speaking about the faith that I and hundreds of thousands of British Muslims practice".
Mary Honeyball, a Labour MEP for London, said that Batten "represents the ugliest side of Ukip". "Batten's views overlap with the far-right. The idea that Muslims should be singled out in the way he suggests is a relic from a darker, more prejudiced time," she said.
@GIN1138 Perhaps her Maj will order all politicians hung drawn and quartered and institute a benign rule of monarchy?
There wouldn't be anything benign about it. While starring in the sex comedy that is the Royal Family since 1952 the Queen has seriously neglected her constitutional duties in respect of sovereignty. History will judge her harshly as a trivial and indolent figure.
If no one else has mentioned it, Clacton by-election will be on October 9th.
The week after the Conservative Party conference, with television and newspapers dominated by David Cameron looking Prime Ministerial as he promises a binding referendum, tax cuts and special measures for faded east coast seaside resorts.
UKIP MEP Gerard Batten proposed a Muslim Charter long ago... Yesterday a Cobservative MP did the same and Cameron didn't disagree....
What will these outraged folk have to say?
Rehman Chishti, the Conservative MP for Gillingham and Rainham, said Batten's position was "shocking", particularly the "charter of understanding" suggestion that parts of the Qur'an should be rendered "inapplicable". "If Nigel Farage had any credibility, he would quite clearly not allow this individual to stand for office in Ukip," he said.
Sadiq Khan, Labour's shadow London minister, also said he was "appalled at the ignorance that Gerard Batten appears to have shown when speaking about the faith that I and hundreds of thousands of British Muslims practice".
Mary Honeyball, a Labour MEP for London, said that Batten "represents the ugliest side of Ukip". "Batten's views overlap with the far-right. The idea that Muslims should be singled out in the way he suggests is a relic from a darker, more prejudiced time," she said.
Richard Graham proposed a community charter, embracing all sections of society. Not a Muslim charter, singling out one. Which is where we will end up anyway once the kiddy rape hits the fan
@Bond_James_Bond Bonnie Prince Charlie could lead a revolt against her perhaps? Or in the case of a yes vote Prince Edward could become King and hammer the Scots?
Some good work by the BBC. And to think Guardian columns have on a number of occasions argued that political correctness is not responsible for 'Rotherham'
They really should be ashamed. Read the threads and you find out some Guardian readers are.
Some good work by the BBC. And to think Guardian columns have on a number of occasions argued that political correctness is not responsible for 'Rotherham'
They really should be ashamed. Read the threads and you find out some Guardian readers are.
Surprised he hasn't been sent to Common Purpose for training.
I can't be arsed to check but I would hazard a guess that Shaun Wright and several other councillors in Rotherham are Common Purpose brainwashed.
With Gordo Brown's outstanding record as a jonah, is it any wonder the no vote has declined so much since he got significantly more involved in the campaign?
Has he learnt any self awareness whilst sulking since 2010, and its all a cunning masterplan so he can lead a post independence Scotland?
He's been stuck on the khazi since 2010 with constipation. In other words. He's just been getting on with the job(bie)
Where is the money coming from to build this ? Cost would exceed £100 billion and take much longer to build. Gatwick and Heathrow are already there, with it being much cheaper and easier to build additional capacity.
Also some relief can be provided by boosting flights from Birmingham, Glasgow and Manchester. When I have spoken to other passengers on flights, it has amazed me how they have spent hours travelling to Heathrow just to get a flight for a holiday. If there was a flight option at a nearer airport they would have taken it. Quite a lot of people from parts of the UK get flights to other European hub airports to fly to long haul destinations, because it is cheaper and/or more convenient.
One quirk is that it's actually very difficult using Expedia etc. to answer the question: "How can I fly most cheaply from England to (say) Argentina?" because you have to try each city in turn. This matters if you don't live in an airport city. When in Nottingham, I had to do separate searches for East Midlands, Birmingham, Manchester and London, all of them in comparable reach in terms of ground journey. I reckon that a site that offered an "airport within 100 miles" option would do well.
www.skyscanner.net
It's also available as an Android app, very quick and intuitive to use.
Only problem with SkyScanner is the prices are never 100% accurate (until you drill down).
Google Flights does the same thing, not quite as intuitive, but prices maybe a little more accurate...
UKIP MEP Gerard Batten proposed a Muslim Charter long ago... Yesterday a Cobservative MP did the same and Cameron didn't disagree....
What will these outraged folk have to say?
Rehman Chishti, the Conservative MP for Gillingham and Rainham, said Batten's position was "shocking", particularly the "charter of understanding" suggestion that parts of the Qur'an should be rendered "inapplicable". "If Nigel Farage had any credibility, he would quite clearly not allow this individual to stand for office in Ukip," he said.
Sadiq Khan, Labour's shadow London minister, also said he was "appalled at the ignorance that Gerard Batten appears to have shown when speaking about the faith that I and hundreds of thousands of British Muslims practice".
Mary Honeyball, a Labour MEP for London, said that Batten "represents the ugliest side of Ukip". "Batten's views overlap with the far-right. The idea that Muslims should be singled out in the way he suggests is a relic from a darker, more prejudiced time," she said.
Richard Graham proposed a community charter, embracing all sections of society. Not a Muslim charter, singling out one. Which is where we will end up anyway once the kiddy rape hits the fan
Haha really????!
It looks like Richard Graham is more focused on one particular section to me
"Richard Graham (Gloucester) (Con): The Prime Minister rightly said that ISIL activities are deplored by the vast majority of British Muslims, but, none the less, various events and reports this summer have led to a growing unease about the role of Islam in our country. The battle that is harder than the one for air supremacy on the Iraqi border is therefore the one for community cohesion here in the UK. I believe the time has come for a charter, which would be a public commitment by community and faith leaders, especially including mosque committees, against extremism and for our values to help to prevent citizens from acting against our country. This could be done locally—I would happily lead on it Gloucester—but does my right hon. Friend agree that a single national charter implemented across the country could have the real benefit of bringing our communities together, which is our best defence against extremism of all kinds?"
With Gordo Brown's outstanding record as a jonah, is it any wonder the no vote has declined so much since he got significantly more involved in the campaign?
Has he learnt any self awareness whilst sulking since 2010, and its all a cunning masterplan so he can lead a post independence Scotland?
He's been stuck on the khazi since 2010 with constipation. In other words. He's just been getting on with the job(bie)
Surely a new low for PB posting?
I posted lower. Especially where that man is concerned.
How well I know this feeling from the Carswell interview:
In March this year, he attended the Königswinter Conference in Cambridge, an annual meeting of senior German and British policymakers. It was the top people from Whitehall, not Berlin, who horrified Carswell by expressing contempt for the policy, set out in Cameron’s Bloomberg speech in January 2013, of obtaining reform in Europe and then allowing the British people to accept or reject the deal in a referendum:
“Yes, I was shocked, I thought the Government was serious about change. And I sat in rooms listening to some very senior people, who unlike me are not democratically accountable, who clearly decide things, and who were just contemptuously dismissive. And when I raised very mild suggestions and put some questions, or even when I was just listening, they were smirkingly, eyeball-rollingly contemptuous of even the most modest treaty reforms. There was almost a sense of ‘we know best’. And yes we’ve got to say these things to the voters because of course you know the Prime Minister has got to win the next election, because you know, rest assured, we don’t mean it and it’s not going to happen. As I say, it’s trust. The Bloomberg trust went. That was a key moment, and it’s a key moment I can talk about in fairly specific terms without breaching confidences. If I give you other key moments you’ll know who I’m talking about and that wouldn’t be fair.”
''So if there was going to be such a charter, I would want to see it generated from within that community rather than imposed on it.''
I saw a TV programme where moderates in Cardiff claimed they had no support whatsoever for the fight against extremism. Zero, Zilch.
The authorities were just not interested.
That's what I found when I tried to get funding for a Muslim group that wanted a modest sum (£10K I think) to do a good website on interpretations of the Koran promoting peace and tolerance. The Minister passed it to a senior civil servant, who after some time got back to me and said the HO felt that this group was so constructive and moderate that they would not be influential with extremists: "I'm afraid they are simply not the problem".
Some trading value in the Tory price, I think. The Ashcroft poll will probably show a narrower margin than 44%, and after the Tory conference bounce no doubt it will look tighter still. I expect UKIP to win, but 13/2 is a silly price.
Yes, such an inquiry would face accusations of racism. But this is not about racism, it is about realism. Britain is home to dozens of different races. Each has their own unique culture. Many have their own religions. All have experienced prejudice, stigmatisation and discrimination. Yet none have had the same issues in integrating with their host society as Britain’s Muslims.
Some people will argue that such a process would actually make social cohesion harder to obtain by formally stigmatising Muslims. But the stigmatisation is already happening on a daily basis. Isil. Trojan Horse schools. Sex gangs. Tower Hamlets. Precisely how much more stigmatisation is required before we choose to actually do something?
Ex US spooks comment on the Ukraine as Kiev announces a halt to offensive operations.
Of course if you were following the military developments the rebels have had a substantial number of the Ukrainian army encircled in the South, they have been doing solely defensive actions elsewhere whilst they completed their destruction. This was finished a week ago, the material they captured and the men it freed up have been used to launch a counter offensive. The Kiev forces collapsed as most don't want to fight and the locals help only the rebels, not due to the sudden involvement of substantial regular Russian troops that journalists and surveillance have failed to ever locate.
Anyway seems negotiations are continuing behind closed doors. As I recommended a long time ago, Crimea to Russia with substantial compensation, Donbass in a federalised structure and Ukraine a non aligned country is the only outcome. Russian speaking citizens were never going to be allowed to go the same way that Serbs were treated. All Western actions have done is kill substantial numbers, create hundreds of thousands of refugees, damage the respective economies and drive resource rich Russia into China's hands. Take a bow NATO and the neo-cons/liberal interventionists.
''So if there was going to be such a charter, I would want to see it generated from within that community rather than imposed on it.''
I saw a TV programme where moderates in Cardiff claimed they had no support whatsoever for the fight against extremism. Zero, Zilch.
The authorities were just not interested.
That's what I found when I tried to get funding for a Muslim group that wanted a modest sum (£10K I think) to do a good website on interpretations of the Koran promoting peace and tolerance. The Minister passed it to a senior civil servant, who after some time got back to me and said the HO felt that this group was so constructive and moderate that they would not be influential with extremists: "I'm afraid they are simply not the problem".
Some trading value in the Tory price, I think. The Ashcroft poll will probably show a narrower margin than 44%, and after the Tory conference bounce no doubt it will look tighter still. I expect UKIP to win, but 13/2 is a silly price.
That Muslim group couldn't find enough moderate Muslims to raise £10k privately?
There are subtle differences in the proposal and delivery. Like I said, we are headed there anyway. Probably via some pretty grim rioting. That's the price we pay for misunderstanding or querying a creed being shut down and labelled as racist rather than a chance for both sides to talk, share and foster a closer understanding and sense of community. Too late for that now, Labour have pandered to the extremes and everyone else will get tarred with their dirty brush.
Edit - I say Labour, they are the worst culprits, but the media, and the other Westminster parties are also culpable.
I just can't even look at the US press about Rotherham - it's just so vile. I really must take a peek just to see how another nation sees it.
The more that comes out - the worse it gets, Jimmy Savile was horrifying - Rotherham is just way so much farther. 1400 in just one town - and there are potentially a dozen others? In 2001, the HO knew and did nothing. Rotherham Council knew and ignored it all/jumped on the whistleblower.
One girl was raped by 54 men. It's just so dreadful that I can't even begin to imagine the horrors. Or the mindset of those charged with their safety doing eff all about it.
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As the price increases, alternatives will be found: whether that is increased reliance on public transport, electric cars, hydrogen cars, artificial oil, etc. The key is to ensure that the alternative technologies are mature enough to take over when a shock occurs. Technology is the key here.
And technology is the killer.
The problem with your 'state' solution is that it requires backing a technological winner. Even the Russians at their most profligate rarely backed one or two alternatives, meaning that you have have to hope that one of those are the winners.
The private market, however, can try hundreds of things simultaneously. Little companies spring up trying a new approach, a new angle. Many fail, but others learn from those failures. Eventually one or two succeed. You can see this with drugs (which was why I was against the recent takeover attempt), the Internet, cars; everything.
It is an incredibly wasteful approach, but time and time again we see the private company approach work and bring new and improved technology to our lives.
When production, useful fusion power arrives, it will be from private industry, not the massive international schemes such as ITER.
What the state can do is act as an enabler of private industry Specify standards and enable cooperation. Encourage innovation.
NI has all it's own issue.
b) The Devo Max team, filled with Labs, LDs and probably most Greens
c) The Antediluvians, filled with the folk that really want the Scottish Parliament to be abolished but are too feart to say so
Guess which team the PB numpties would have been cheerleading
The optimum English bet on the indyref is surely to bet against Yes. If Yes wins you make so much money out of Scotland going that you don't care you lost a bet. When Yes loses your bet pays out to compensate you.
Well it seems to have worked so far. Capitalism has produced the goods for the last 4,000 years of human history is there any reason why it should not do in the future?
As a side issue the population of the planet is now starting to plateau. It would seem we have already reached the peak number of children as they grow old our population problem might turn out to be not enough people of working age.
Still is. Shadsy's Yes vote % at 50-55% is still priced at 4/1, whereas the best Yes price is currently 3/1.
It looks like a no-brainer, but Yes could still break 55%. The late Quebec swingback to No might be a precedent, but then, on the other hand, it might not!
They will be taking legal action against the doctors who libelled him [Mr King] in the hospital and they will file a criminal complaint for false detention and libel
Source - Daily Mail
I often think the libel laws in this country suppress free speech, but in this case the hospital are bang to rights. The family will win this case easily as the hospital did not obtain guardianship of the child. All so avoidable.
Clacton by-election on the ninth of October
I wonder what would that figure be if the Shetlands joined Norway.
The tools private enterprise uses are generally funded by the "state" initially, as is the case with ITER and the other experimental set ups. After that, private enterprise will take it forward if it can see a profit in the terms in which it thinks (short to medium term mostly).
Yes, new technologies can supply answers to many problems, but you are still running up against the major one, unfettered capitalism is essentially greedy, and greed is not sustainable.
Smaller "state" means giving more power to "capital" with its fixation for the short/medium term. The world is not getting smaller, but humanity is getting bigger, and more demanding.
How will the market solve that problem?
Chief Constables are generally very smart, but they live in a control bubble like politicians. I can't see any rational reason for doing what they've done.
Something close to Devo Max for Wales, with the consequent further hamstringing of the lefty brigade at Westminster, a devolved Cornish parliament, and growing pressure regionally as regional identity comes to the fore. Federate or implode.
Welcome to the United Kingdom of federal states, leave Westminster as a crumbling ruin, with it's self-serving imbeciles left to deliberate over the handful of matters that cannot be run on a state by state basis.
Big advantages - The Kingdom of East Anglia will be permanently free of socialist rule, Northumbria will be free of Tory rule, as will Gods Toilet, the Socialist Republic of Yorkshire. Plus, the federated states will no longer be a honey pot for benefit tourists.
The Heptarchy will rise again. Good riddance to the crap behind it.
Or if the Shetlands joined Russia, given Mr Putin's regard for highly localised referenda.
Rubbish. Large projects are the exception rather than the rule. They have a place: CERN in particular has been an unqualified success, and the basic idea of the WWW originated there (even if the concept had been around for yonks, and it was taken on and expanded due to private industry).
As I've said, there is a role for the state to act as an enabler. But your statist approach has been shown to fail time and time again. Look at British aircraft production: the Barabazon and Concorde were both technical triumphs but economic disasters because the government utterly misread the markets.
You can have an argument all day over the question if Scotland pays its way or not, but when it comes to Wales, or Cornwall etc, then the answer is certainly no...
Yes-supporting activists want to see it dominate the airwaves in the final weeks of the campaign and a social media drive pushed it to the top of the Amazon singles chart last night.
http://www.scotsman.com/what-s-on/music/scottish-independence-proclaimers-song-tops-chart-1-3527999
I could tell the meaning of a word like serene
I got some 'O' Grades when I was sixteen
I can tell the difference between magarine and butter
I can say "Saskatchewan" without starting to stutter
But I can't understand why we let someone else rule our land, cap in hand
For most of the last 4,000 years my dear historian, the population was less, and it's acquisitiveness was mostly sustainable and self limiting, The form of capitalism that we live with now has only really taken off since the industrial revolution, and it's exponential growth is now coming up against some basic facts.
There may indeed be a time when these limits can be overcome, but not at the moment.
Nuclear power, energy too cheap to meter? You know that that turned out to be impossible due to the availability of uranium production, and the dream of a nuclear powered world is impossible with the current technology. To be blunt, the dream came up against the hard facts of resources.
Clapton byelection on October 9 - David Cameron's 48th birthday. Will Ukip use that to personalise their campaign against Tory PM?
Thanks for posting and wish Jack well (hope he is just having a rest and not unwell)
(PS. Oh and ignore MaclomG. He's just being nasty as usual, but the rest of us are much nicer)
Lord Ashcroft @LordAshcroft 24m
Of course I'm getting a little nervous about the Scottish Independence vote. The No campaign might yet win!
Looks 50/50 at the moment to me...
Labours dirty little secret coming home to roost. Blind eye Ed and the party of national shame.
In essence yes, Like many organisms, it continues on with it's expansion until it hits the limits of the resources, whereupon it crashes, and if it has changed it's environment too radically before the crash, it become extinct or evolves into something more suitable.
It's a load of bollards that he will quit if the Scots vote yes.
Why should/would he quit.
Plus everyone who says he will quit, will acknowledge if No wins, Dave will get a boost?
No, thought not.
Some good work by the BBC. And to think Guardian columns have on a number of occasions argued that political correctness is not responsible for 'Rotherham'
They really should be ashamed. Read the threads and you find out some Guardian readers are.
Anyway, off out for a nice lunch. Play nicely everyone.
UKIP 1/7 (Betfair)
Con 13/2 (Betfair)
60 bar
But then Ed never says anything on any matter much at the moment.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/katemaltby/100284781/tory-morale-has-collapsed-again/
How it is distributed, and also how it can be sustained so that it flourishes and it's benefits reaped?
The debate is not that capitalism is wrong in itself, it is that it has no interest in the world and it's population except as a food source on which it feeds, and it's rules tend towards channeling the food into a smaller number of mouths that also eats it's smaller relatives.
It doesn't even help it's own "biodiversity"?
Dundee 6/4
Clackmannanshire 7/1
Angus 9/1
Moray 10/1
Aberdeenshire 12/1
Glasgow 14/1
Falkirk 14/1
Perth & Kinross 14/1
Stirling 16/1
Aberdeen 16/1
"A high turnout is expected on the day, but we have taken steps to address this by allocating a maximum of 800 electors to each polling place across the country. This will help to ensure everyone can cast their vote without having to queue for an unacceptable amount of time."
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/sep/01/scotland-referendum-campaigns-civil-police
The polls have shown in recent months, the Tories ahead, or Labour narrowly ahead.
A net loss of 58 Non Tory seats on the horizon, a popular budget, why would Dave quit?
Next.
As of 1 August, there were nearly 4.2 million people registered to vote and more than 680,000 with postal votes. Those figures are growing daily.
Mary Pitcaithly, chief counting officer for the Scottish independence referendum, said: "The referendum has prompted high levels of interest, with increasing numbers of people registering to vote and applying for postal votes.
"Electoral registration offices across Scotland are handling a high volume of inquiries and registrations. All offices have planned their processes and resources accordingly to handle the increase in inquiries as we approach the deadline for registration.
"Everyone who submits a valid application to the register by the deadline will be able to vote in the referendum."
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-29024311
He seems to argue it would take the resolve of ten Margaret Thatchers to put the foreign office from its course of Britain becoming a fully fledged member of a European superstate.
It is the FO, and not the government, that is in total charge of policy. Cameron is just there to appease the voter.
Perhaps her Maj will order all politicians hung drawn and quartered and institute a benign rule of monarchy?
If no one else has mentioned it, Clacton by-election will be on October 9th.
Most seats (BetVictor)
SNP 4/6
Lab 11/10
Any other 150/1
Has he learnt any self awareness whilst sulking since 2010, and its all a cunning masterplan so he can lead a post independence Scotland?
The Prime Minister: I think my hon. Friend makes an interesting suggestion. I would say that these initiatives have far greater power if they are generated by the communities themselves. It has been noticeable how many leaders of Britain’s Muslim communities—mosques, community groups and others—have come out and condemned what ISIL stands for and the other things that we have seen. So if there was going to be such a charter, I would want to see it generated from within that community rather than imposed on it.
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201415/cmhansrd/cm140901/debtext/140901-0002.htm#14090111000146
With a bacon sandwich and flowers for Justine to boot
Clegg 2/1
Salmond 2/1
Farage 4/1
Cameron 5/1
Miliband 6/1
In other words. He's just been getting on with the job(bie)
What will these outraged folk have to say?
Rehman Chishti, the Conservative MP for Gillingham and Rainham, said Batten's position was "shocking", particularly the "charter of understanding" suggestion that parts of the Qur'an should be rendered "inapplicable". "If Nigel Farage had any credibility, he would quite clearly not allow this individual to stand for office in Ukip," he said.
Sadiq Khan, Labour's shadow London minister, also said he was "appalled at the ignorance that Gerard Batten appears to have shown when speaking about the faith that I and hundreds of thousands of British Muslims practice".
Mary Honeyball, a Labour MEP for London, said that Batten "represents the ugliest side of Ukip". "Batten's views overlap with the far-right. The idea that Muslims should be singled out in the way he suggests is a relic from a darker, more prejudiced time," she said.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/feb/04/ukip-mep-gerard-batten-muslims-sign-charter-rejecting-violence
I saw a TV programme where moderates in Cardiff claimed they had no support whatsoever for the fight against extremism. Zero, Zilch.
The authorities were just not interested.
Meanwhile, incredibly, Labour have tabled an urgent question on Rotherham for Theresa May today.
There really is no shaming that party, is there....
Bonnie Prince Charlie could lead a revolt against her perhaps? Or in the case of a yes vote Prince Edward could become King and hammer the Scots?
'How much sh!t are we in for covering this up and doing nothing about it?'
I can't be arsed to check but I would hazard a guess that Shaun Wright and several other councillors in Rotherham are Common Purpose brainwashed.
Only problem with SkyScanner is the prices are never 100% accurate (until you drill down).
Google Flights does the same thing, not quite as intuitive, but prices maybe a little more accurate...
It looks like Richard Graham is more focused on one particular section to me
"Richard Graham (Gloucester) (Con): The Prime Minister rightly said that ISIL activities are deplored by the vast majority of British Muslims, but, none the less, various events and reports this summer have led to a growing unease about the role of Islam in our country. The battle that is harder than the one for air supremacy on the Iraqi border is therefore the one for community cohesion here in the UK. I believe the time has come for a charter, which would be a public commitment by community and faith leaders, especially including mosque committees, against extremism and for our values to help to prevent citizens from acting against our country. This could be done locally—I would happily lead on it Gloucester—but does my right hon. Friend agree that a single national charter implemented across the country could have the real benefit of bringing our communities together, which is our best defence against extremism of all kinds?"
In March this year, he attended the Königswinter Conference in Cambridge, an annual meeting of senior German and British policymakers. It was the top people from Whitehall, not Berlin, who horrified Carswell by expressing contempt for the policy, set out in Cameron’s Bloomberg speech in January 2013, of obtaining reform in Europe and then allowing the British people to accept or reject the deal in a referendum:
“Yes, I was shocked, I thought the Government was serious about change. And I sat in rooms listening to some very senior people, who unlike me are not democratically accountable, who clearly decide things, and who were just contemptuously dismissive. And when I raised very mild suggestions and put some questions, or even when I was just listening, they were smirkingly, eyeball-rollingly contemptuous of even the most modest treaty reforms. There was almost a sense of ‘we know best’. And yes we’ve got to say these things to the voters because of course you know the Prime Minister has got to win the next election, because you know, rest assured, we don’t mean it and it’s not going to happen. As I say, it’s trust. The Bloomberg trust went. That was a key moment, and it’s a key moment I can talk about in fairly specific terms without breaching confidences. If I give you other key moments you’ll know who I’m talking about and that wouldn’t be fair.”
When O when is somebody actually going to start attacking labour on this???
Even UKIP seem frit.
I can only conclude the entire establishment is in shock.
Ex US spooks comment on the Ukraine as Kiev announces a halt to offensive operations.
Of course if you were following the military developments the rebels have had a substantial number of the Ukrainian army encircled in the South, they have been doing solely defensive actions elsewhere whilst they completed their destruction. This was finished a week ago, the material they captured and the men it freed up have been used to launch a counter offensive. The Kiev forces collapsed as most don't want to fight and the locals help only the rebels, not due to the sudden involvement of substantial regular Russian troops that journalists and surveillance have failed to ever locate.
Anyway seems negotiations are continuing behind closed doors. As I recommended a long time ago, Crimea to Russia with substantial compensation, Donbass in a federalised structure and Ukraine a non aligned country is the only outcome. Russian speaking citizens were never going to be allowed to go the same way that Serbs were treated. All Western actions have done is kill substantial numbers, create hundreds of thousands of refugees, damage the respective economies and drive resource rich Russia into China's hands. Take a bow NATO and the neo-cons/liberal interventionists.
There are subtle differences in the proposal and delivery. Like I said, we are headed there anyway. Probably via some pretty grim rioting.
That's the price we pay for misunderstanding or querying a creed being shut down and labelled as racist rather than a chance for both sides to talk, share and foster a closer understanding and sense of community. Too late for that now, Labour have pandered to the extremes and everyone else will get tarred with their dirty brush.
Edit - I say Labour, they are the worst culprits, but the media, and the other Westminster parties are also culpable.
The more that comes out - the worse it gets, Jimmy Savile was horrifying - Rotherham is just way so much farther. 1400 in just one town - and there are potentially a dozen others? In 2001, the HO knew and did nothing. Rotherham Council knew and ignored it all/jumped on the whistleblower.
One girl was raped by 54 men. It's just so dreadful that I can't even begin to imagine the horrors. Or the mindset of those charged with their safety doing eff all about it.
Truly mind-bending.