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  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669

    Tim_B said:

    What Egyptians knew the diameter of the earth, please?

    Please Sir!!!

    Eratosthenes?

    Well Eratosthenes did live, work and die in Alexandria so that the claim the Egyptians knew the diameter of the earth is definitely true, for some value of Egyptian. I got the impression though that the original poster was making the claim for the Egyptians of an earlier period.
    Eratosthenes was also an excellent golfer :-)

    - except that being Egypt, the bunkers were enormous.

    Don't you dare go against Carl Sagan!
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    edited August 2014

    Tim_B said:

    What Egyptians knew the diameter of the earth, please?

    Please Sir!!!

    Eratosthenes?

    Well Eratosthenes did live, work and die in Alexandria so that the claim the Egyptians knew the diameter of the earth is definitely true, for some value of Egyptian. I got the impression though that the original poster was making the claim for the Egyptians of an earlier period.
    They did have numbers though, I found that while learning to read hieroglyphics.

    Though only priests where allowed the knowledge of hieroglyphics.
    That was one of the things that caused Egypt to lag in the classical age.
  • HurstLlamaHurstLlama Posts: 9,098
    Tim_B said:

    Tim_B said:

    What Egyptians knew the diameter of the earth, please?

    Please Sir!!!

    Eratosthenes?

    Well Eratosthenes did live, work and die in Alexandria so that the claim the Egyptians knew the diameter of the earth is definitely true, for some value of Egyptian. I got the impression though that the original poster was making the claim for the Egyptians of an earlier period.
    Eratosthenes was also an excellent golfer :-)

    - except that being Egypt, the bunkers were enormous.

    Don't you dare go against Carl Sagan!
    "Eratosthenes was also an excellent golfer"

    Thank you, Mr. B., a real laugh out loud moment. I don't get many of those now I have retired and so every one is more than welcome.

    Who is Carl Sagan? Never heard of the bloke, do I really need to go and look him up?
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    I get to meet Kevin Bacon tomorrow - how cool is that?

    On Sunday I'm going to a divorce party for a friend - who admits he almost asked his ex-wife to come.

    - not a weekend I'd like my IQ measured...........
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    Floater said:

    Speedy said:

    SeanT said:

    #When Genocide Is Permissible

    ... is still the 7th leading trend on Twitter Worldwide.

    Twitter has 300 million global users, dwarfing any news channel entirely.

    Israel is losing this war in social media, and losing it badly - where it matters most.

    Its a blow to Israel's image, it will be taught around the middle east and most of the world on what Israel's position is regarding foreigners.
    Yet what gets shown on childrens tv in certain Middle East countries gets barely a mention.

    We already know about ISIS (or IS now), so we have an idea.

    Imagine though a war between ISIS and Israel, it will be the most fanatical and blood churning war since medieval times and difficult to predict who would win if anyone.
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669

    Tim_B said:

    Tim_B said:

    What Egyptians knew the diameter of the earth, please?

    Please Sir!!!

    Eratosthenes?

    Well Eratosthenes did live, work and die in Alexandria so that the claim the Egyptians knew the diameter of the earth is definitely true, for some value of Egyptian. I got the impression though that the original poster was making the claim for the Egyptians of an earlier period.
    Eratosthenes was also an excellent golfer :-)

    - except that being Egypt, the bunkers were enormous.

    Don't you dare go against Carl Sagan!
    "Eratosthenes was also an excellent golfer"

    Thank you, Mr. B., a real laugh out loud moment. I don't get many of those now I have retired and so every one is more than welcome.

    Who is Carl Sagan? Never heard of the bloke, do I really need to go and look him up?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmos:_A_Personal_Voyage
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    edited August 2014
    SeanT said:

    Floater said:

    Speedy said:

    SeanT said:

    #When Genocide Is Permissible

    ... is still the 7th leading trend on Twitter Worldwide.

    Twitter has 300 million global users, dwarfing any news channel entirely.

    Israel is losing this war in social media, and losing it badly - where it matters most.

    Its a blow to Israel's image, it will be taught around the middle east and most of the world on what Israel's position is regarding foreigners.
    Yet what gets shown on childrens tv in certain Middle East countries gets barely a mention.

    Nor does the way Isrealis are being slowly turned into Nazis.

    http://jezebel.com/duckfaces-and-death-to-arabs-israeli-teens-call-for-et-1605467662

    Israel is turning into a religious South Africa.
    14 years of forever war does make society lose its civil characteristics.

    If this lasts longer or gets worse civil authorities in Israel might lose control of the military, there is a possibility that Israel might end up a military dictatorship in the years to come.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,030
    Tim_B said:

    I get to meet Kevin Bacon tomorrow - how cool is that?

    On Sunday I'm going to a divorce party for a friend - who admits he almost asked his ex-wife to come.

    - not a weekend I'd like my IQ measured...........

    My bacon number is going to fall like a rock!
  • Speedy said:

    Floater said:

    Speedy said:

    SeanT said:

    #When Genocide Is Permissible

    ... is still the 7th leading trend on Twitter Worldwide.

    Twitter has 300 million global users, dwarfing any news channel entirely.

    Israel is losing this war in social media, and losing it badly - where it matters most.

    Its a blow to Israel's image, it will be taught around the middle east and most of the world on what Israel's position is regarding foreigners.
    Yet what gets shown on childrens tv in certain Middle East countries gets barely a mention.

    We already know about ISIS (or IS now), so we have an idea.

    Imagine though a war between ISIS and Israel, it will be the most fanatical and blood churning war since medieval times and difficult to predict who would win if anyone.
    Whoever wins we lose?
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,030

    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    Tim_B said:

    Sergio Garcia shoots a 61 including 8 birdies on the back 9. Breaks back 9 record, equals course record.

    Is that some sort of coded message?
    Avast, Mr Llama! Mr B is talking about Golf, perhaps the only sport more boring than Test Cricket!
    Sunil, please report for Tebbit chip inspection.

    Data: [laughs] I get it! I get it! When you said "The clown can stay, but the Ferengi in the gorilla suit has to go!"
    Geordi: Data, what are you talking about?
    Data: During the Farpoint mission; we were on the bridge, you told a joke, that was the punchline!
    Geordi: The Farpoint mission? Data, that was seven years ago.
    Data: I know! I just got it! Very funny!
    Wrong chip, Sunil :')
    [Sunil scans for lifeforms by-election results]
    Sunil: I would be happy to, sir. I just *love* scanning for by-election results!
    [sings]
    By-election results! You tiny little by-election results! You precious little by-election results! Where are you?

    The order is: engage the Tebbit chip.
  • HurstLlamaHurstLlama Posts: 9,098
    Speedy said:

    Tim_B said:

    What Egyptians knew the diameter of the earth, please?

    Please Sir!!!

    Eratosthenes?

    Well Eratosthenes did live, work and die in Alexandria so that the claim the Egyptians knew the diameter of the earth is definitely true, for some value of Egyptian. I got the impression though that the original poster was making the claim for the Egyptians of an earlier period.
    They did have numbers though, I found that while learning to read hieroglyphics.

    Though only priests where allowed the knowledge of hieroglyphics.
    That was one of the things that caused Egypt to lag in the classical age.
    The Pyramids were built about 2,000 years before Eratosthenes was born. Egyptian civilisation or, probably more properly, civilisations lasted a heck of a long time. Therefore, when someone says the Egyptians knew this that or the other I think of it as some saying the British knew X. We probably did but when? The state of knowledge in Britain in, say, 1940 was rather different to that in 640.
  • HurstLlamaHurstLlama Posts: 9,098
    Tim_B said:

    Tim_B said:

    Tim_B said:

    What Egyptians knew the diameter of the earth, please?

    Please Sir!!!

    Eratosthenes?

    Well Eratosthenes did live, work and die in Alexandria so that the claim the Egyptians knew the diameter of the earth is definitely true, for some value of Egyptian. I got the impression though that the original poster was making the claim for the Egyptians of an earlier period.
    Eratosthenes was also an excellent golfer :-)

    - except that being Egypt, the bunkers were enormous.

    Don't you dare go against Carl Sagan!
    "Eratosthenes was also an excellent golfer"

    Thank you, Mr. B., a real laugh out loud moment. I don't get many of those now I have retired and so every one is more than welcome.

    Who is Carl Sagan? Never heard of the bloke, do I really need to go and look him up?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmos:_A_Personal_Voyage
    Thank you, Mr. B. A simple, "No" would have done.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    edited August 2014

    Speedy said:

    Floater said:

    Speedy said:

    SeanT said:

    #When Genocide Is Permissible

    ... is still the 7th leading trend on Twitter Worldwide.

    Twitter has 300 million global users, dwarfing any news channel entirely.

    Israel is losing this war in social media, and losing it badly - where it matters most.

    Its a blow to Israel's image, it will be taught around the middle east and most of the world on what Israel's position is regarding foreigners.
    Yet what gets shown on childrens tv in certain Middle East countries gets barely a mention.

    We already know about ISIS (or IS now), so we have an idea.

    Imagine though a war between ISIS and Israel, it will be the most fanatical and blood churning war since medieval times and difficult to predict who would win if anyone.
    Whoever wins we lose?
    Well lets see:
    ISIS has plenty of oil and a modern american equipped army but not nukes (for now).
    Israel has no oil but a modern american equipped army with nukes.

    ISIS has numbers and tactical mobility to crush infantry but not a big airforce yet.
    Israel has lost its army mobility in favour of infantry for counter insurgency over the years but has an excellent airforce, though the war in Ukraine has shown that if you have enough modern anti air weapons you can ground the enemy's airforce (Ukraine has lost 1/7th of its airforce in 4 months or half of its operational aircraft).

    So it goes down to nukes
    Israel would use nukes if close to defeat.
    ISIS doesnt have any nukes yet but if they acquire them they might use them first.

    In any case oil will go sky high, at least 1 million people would get killed, most of the middle east would be in ruins plus lots of radioactivity in the air.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,406
    Speedy said:

    Floater said:

    Speedy said:

    SeanT said:

    #When Genocide Is Permissible

    ... is still the 7th leading trend on Twitter Worldwide.

    Twitter has 300 million global users, dwarfing any news channel entirely.

    Israel is losing this war in social media, and losing it badly - where it matters most.

    Its a blow to Israel's image, it will be taught around the middle east and most of the world on what Israel's position is regarding foreigners.
    Yet what gets shown on childrens tv in certain Middle East countries gets barely a mention.

    We already know about ISIS (or IS now), so we have an idea.

    Imagine though a war between ISIS and Israel, it will be the most fanatical and blood churning war since medieval times and difficult to predict who would win if anyone.
    Israel would destroy ISIS - but it wouldn't be without cost.

    Being captured as an Israeli soldier would be a fate far worse than death in that war though.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    Pulpstar said:

    Speedy said:

    Floater said:

    Speedy said:

    SeanT said:

    #When Genocide Is Permissible

    ... is still the 7th leading trend on Twitter Worldwide.

    Twitter has 300 million global users, dwarfing any news channel entirely.

    Israel is losing this war in social media, and losing it badly - where it matters most.

    Its a blow to Israel's image, it will be taught around the middle east and most of the world on what Israel's position is regarding foreigners.
    Yet what gets shown on childrens tv in certain Middle East countries gets barely a mention.

    We already know about ISIS (or IS now), so we have an idea.

    Imagine though a war between ISIS and Israel, it will be the most fanatical and blood churning war since medieval times and difficult to predict who would win if anyone.
    Israel would destroy ISIS - but it wouldn't be without cost.

    Being captured as an Israeli soldier would be a fate far worse than death in that war though.
    Remove nukes and it might be an even battle.
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    edited August 2014

    Tim_B said:

    Tim_B said:

    Tim_B said:

    What Egyptians knew the diameter of the earth, please?

    Please Sir!!!

    Eratosthenes?

    Well Eratosthenes did live, work and die in Alexandria so that the claim the Egyptians knew the diameter of the earth is definitely true, for some value of Egyptian. I got the impression though that the original poster was making the claim for the Egyptians of an earlier period.
    Eratosthenes was also an excellent golfer :-)

    - except that being Egypt, the bunkers were enormous.

    Don't you dare go against Carl Sagan!
    "Eratosthenes was also an excellent golfer"

    Thank you, Mr. B., a real laugh out loud moment. I don't get many of those now I have retired and so every one is more than welcome.

    Who is Carl Sagan? Never heard of the bloke, do I really need to go and look him up?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmos:_A_Personal_Voyage
    Thank you, Mr. B. A simple, "No" would have done.
    The intent was to point you towards Cosmos, either the book or the TV series. The TV series is well worth watching. It is fantastic even 35 years on. The book is also excellent. The music to the TV series was wonderful.

    The first episode mentions Eratosthenes. Unfortunately his golfing exploits are omitted...

    You can buy it on amazon.co.uk for 11 pounds.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100

    Speedy said:

    Tim_B said:

    What Egyptians knew the diameter of the earth, please?

    Please Sir!!!

    Eratosthenes?

    Well Eratosthenes did live, work and die in Alexandria so that the claim the Egyptians knew the diameter of the earth is definitely true, for some value of Egyptian. I got the impression though that the original poster was making the claim for the Egyptians of an earlier period.
    They did have numbers though, I found that while learning to read hieroglyphics.

    Though only priests where allowed the knowledge of hieroglyphics.
    That was one of the things that caused Egypt to lag in the classical age.
    The Pyramids were built about 2,000 years before Eratosthenes was born. Egyptian civilisation or, probably more properly, civilisations lasted a heck of a long time. Therefore, when someone says the Egyptians knew this that or the other I think of it as some saying the British knew X. We probably did but when? The state of knowledge in Britain in, say, 1940 was rather different to that in 640.
    China is though currently the oldest continuous one today about 4000 years old and still counting.
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    This probably counts as the ultimate expression of chutzpah, but Dallas Cowboys season ticket holders will find playoff tickets included in their ticket package.

    http://espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/story/_/id/11295007/dallas-cowboys-include-playoff-tickets-package-season-ticket-holders
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    Clarification - you can buy the complete Cosmos series on dvd at amazon.co.uk for 11 pounds.

    A great addition to anyone's dvd library.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,406
    Speedy said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Speedy said:

    Floater said:

    Speedy said:

    SeanT said:

    #When Genocide Is Permissible

    ... is still the 7th leading trend on Twitter Worldwide.

    Twitter has 300 million global users, dwarfing any news channel entirely.

    Israel is losing this war in social media, and losing it badly - where it matters most.

    Its a blow to Israel's image, it will be taught around the middle east and most of the world on what Israel's position is regarding foreigners.
    Yet what gets shown on childrens tv in certain Middle East countries gets barely a mention.

    We already know about ISIS (or IS now), so we have an idea.

    Imagine though a war between ISIS and Israel, it will be the most fanatical and blood churning war since medieval times and difficult to predict who would win if anyone.
    Israel would destroy ISIS - but it wouldn't be without cost.

    Being captured as an Israeli soldier would be a fate far worse than death in that war though.
    Remove nukes and it might be an even battle.
    IS is basically Saudi-backed rebels - and whilst strong enough to provide a decent challenge to the Iraqi forces would be no match for the Israeli Defense Force.

    The reason they appear so strong is that between the Tigris and Euphrates is basically friendly Sunni territory where the population can easily be either killed, converted or doesn't mind them anyway. Shi'a or Jewish areas (Or Kurdish for that matter) are going to be alot harder for them to take - there is a reason that Baghdad won't fall to them any time soon.
  • JohnLoonyJohnLoony Posts: 1,790
    Tim_B said:

    Tim_B said:

    Sergio Garcia shoots a 61 including 8 birdies on the back 9. Breaks back 9 record, equals course record.

    Is that some sort of coded message?
    Avast, Mr Llama! Mr B is talking about Golf, perhaps the only sport more boring than Test Cricket!
    Thank' ee, Cap'n. 'tis as well you told me because Mr. B.'s explanation and I quote,
    "Nope - second round at the WGC Bridgestone, Sergio shot a back 9 27" made no more sense than his first message.

    Belike
    My very dear fellow Mr Llama:

    I'll type this slowly as I know you don't read very quickly.

    In the second round of the WGC Bridgestone Invitational, at the Firestone Country Club in Akron, Ohio -

    Sergio Garcia scored 61 for the round, equalling the course record for low score. He completed the back 9 in 27 shots, birdying every hole except the 11th. That broke the back 9 course record.

    Rory McIlroy hit 23 of 28 drives over 300 yards in the first 2 rounds.

    This means he beat the living shit out of the ball on numerous occasions, in a manner most people are not able to achieve.

    Is that decoded enough for you? :-)
    Not for me it isn't. What does "completed the back 9" mean?

  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,874
    Just for a change from Gaza an extract from a classic letter in today's Guardian: 'As Aditya Chakrabortty says, Labour only differs by proposing to pull a few different levers to what Balls calls “old Tory economics”. Yet inegalitarian shibboleths such as balanced budgets and corporate tax relief will be retained. Labour should, instead, propose a re-shaping of economic institutions and market-state relationships to create a fairer balance of economic power and reverse the marketisation of society.' So balanced budgets are apparently 'inegalitarian shibboleths' now? Night!
    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/jul/31/constant-growth-make-most-poorer
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    JohnLoony said:

    Tim_B said:

    Tim_B said:

    Sergio Garcia shoots a 61 including 8 birdies on the back 9. Breaks back 9 record, equals course record.

    Is that some sort of coded message?
    Avast, Mr Llama! Mr B is talking about Golf, perhaps the only sport more boring than Test Cricket!
    Thank' ee, Cap'n. 'tis as well you told me because Mr. B.'s explanation and I quote,
    "Nope - second round at the WGC Bridgestone, Sergio shot a back 9 27" made no more sense than his first message.

    Belike
    My very dear fellow Mr Llama:

    I'll type this slowly as I know you don't read very quickly.

    In the second round of the WGC Bridgestone Invitational, at the Firestone Country Club in Akron, Ohio -

    Sergio Garcia scored 61 for the round, equalling the course record for low score. He completed the back 9 in 27 shots, birdying every hole except the 11th. That broke the back 9 course record.

    Rory McIlroy hit 23 of 28 drives over 300 yards in the first 2 rounds.

    This means he beat the living shit out of the ball on numerous occasions, in a manner most people are not able to achieve.

    Is that decoded enough for you? :-)
    Not for me it isn't. What does "completed the back 9" mean?

    I think you're a fraud - otherwise you would have asked what a birdie was :-)
  • john_zimsjohn_zims Posts: 3,399
    @Speedy

    'Imagine though a war between ISIS and Israel, it will be the most fanatical and blood churning war since medieval times and difficult to predict who would win if anyone.'

    You really think ISIS would have a chance when the combined armies of Egypt,Syria & Jordan failed to win a war against Israel?
  • john_zims said:

    @Speedy

    'Imagine though a war between ISIS and Israel, it will be the most fanatical and blood churning war since medieval times and difficult to predict who would win if anyone.'

    You really think ISIS would have a chance when the combined armies of Egypt,Syria & Jordan failed to win a war against Israel?

    To be fair those armies weren't fuelled by religious fervour in 1967.
  • MrJonesMrJones Posts: 3,523
    Charles said:

    Ishmael_X said:

    TOPPING said:

    Ishmael_X said:

    TOPPING said:

    SeanT said:

    Socrates said:

    @SeanT

    You need not worry about the retraction of the pro-genocide argument. It was made again by a Times of Israel writer today:

    http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/1-samuel-1518/#ixzz39AIQIcls

    Israel no longer seems to be a Western liberal democracy that shares our values. It is instead another sectarian Middle Eastern state whose hatred of the other tribes overcomes any sentiment of decency.

    I entirely agree.

    The fact that some of the smartest people in the world - the Jews - cannot see how their "homeland" is descending into quasi-Fascism is as ironic as it is horribly tragic.

    Is that some of the smartest people in the world from the same school of analysis which identifies which type of people can run fast/dance well?
    Bit hard to quantify dancing, but Nobel prizes and athletics world records might tell you something about correlations between ethnic origin and being smart/running fast.

    You mean it tells you which races become scientists?
    Why would there be no correlation of natural ability? Do you contend that Kenyans and Ethiopians win so many marathons solely because so many of them take up running as a sport? That seems unlikely to me.
    I thought Kenyan and Ethiopian prowess was more related to high altitude living/training than anything genetic; the Afro-Caribbean sprint speed (and, I believe, West African, is physical - related to fast-twitch muscle)
    They have genetic adaptations to high altitude to make them able to process oxygen more efficiently. Apparently Tibetans have better ones so it's surprising the Chinese haven't started training them up as distance runners.

  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    SeanT said:

    Floater said:

    Speedy said:

    SeanT said:

    #When Genocide Is Permissible

    ... is still the 7th leading trend on Twitter Worldwide.

    Twitter has 300 million global users, dwarfing any news channel entirely.

    Israel is losing this war in social media, and losing it badly - where it matters most.

    Its a blow to Israel's image, it will be taught around the middle east and most of the world on what Israel's position is regarding foreigners.
    Yet what gets shown on childrens tv in certain Middle East countries gets barely a mention.

    Nor does the way Isrealis are being slowly turned into Nazis.

    http://jezebel.com/duckfaces-and-death-to-arabs-israeli-teens-call-for-et-1605467662

    Israel is turning into a religious South Africa.
    If you are relying on jezebel to make your case...
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758

    Speedy said:

    Tim_B said:

    What Egyptians knew the diameter of the earth, please?

    Please Sir!!!

    Eratosthenes?

    Well Eratosthenes did live, work and die in Alexandria so that the claim the Egyptians knew the diameter of the earth is definitely true, for some value of Egyptian. I got the impression though that the original poster was making the claim for the Egyptians of an earlier period.
    They did have numbers though, I found that while learning to read hieroglyphics.

    Though only priests where allowed the knowledge of hieroglyphics.
    That was one of the things that caused Egypt to lag in the classical age.
    The Pyramids were built about 2,000 years before Eratosthenes was born. Egyptian civilisation or, probably more properly, civilisations lasted a heck of a long time. Therefore, when someone says the Egyptians knew this that or the other I think of it as some saying the British knew X. We probably did but when? The state of knowledge in Britain in, say, 1940 was rather different to that in 640.
    Where does the average Brit in 2014 sit on the scale?

    *innocent face*
  • JohnLoonyJohnLoony Posts: 1,790
    Tim_B said:

    JohnLoony said:

    Tim_B said:

    Tim_B said:

    Sergio Garcia shoots a 61 including 8 birdies on the back 9. Breaks back 9 record, equals course record.

    Is that some sort of coded message?
    Avast, Mr Llama! Mr B is talking about Golf, perhaps the only sport more boring than Test Cricket!
    Thank' ee, Cap'n. 'tis as well you told me because Mr. B.'s explanation and I quote,
    "Nope - second round at the WGC Bridgestone, Sergio shot a back 9 27" made no more sense than his first message.

    Belike
    My very dear fellow Mr Llama:

    I'll type this slowly as I know you don't read very quickly.

    In the second round of the WGC Bridgestone Invitational, at the Firestone Country Club in Akron, Ohio -

    Sergio Garcia scored 61 for the round, equalling the course record for low score. He completed the back 9 in 27 shots, birdying every hole except the 11th. That broke the back 9 course record.

    Rory McIlroy hit 23 of 28 drives over 300 yards in the first 2 rounds.

    This means he beat the living shit out of the ball on numerous occasions, in a manner most people are not able to achieve.

    Is that decoded enough for you? :-)
    Not for me it isn't. What does "completed the back 9" mean?

    I think you're a fraud - otherwise you would have asked what a birdie was :-)
    Why would I want to ask what a birdie is? I know what a birdie is. It's (a) a modern miniature dinosaur, with feathers, or (b) a hole in golf which is completed in one less than the par. But I still don't know what "the back 9" means.

  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 43,496
    Edin_Rokz said:

    And for the record, word has reached me from SNP insider sources, that orders have come down from on high, that members are expected to bet on a Yes win. As most people are aware, Salmond is a gambler and is using the betting odds as a tactic to try and swing the referendum.

    what a plonker, you a stand up at the fringe.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,813
    Speedy said:

    Floater said:

    Speedy said:

    SeanT said:

    #When Genocide Is Permissible

    ... is still the 7th leading trend on Twitter Worldwide.

    Twitter has 300 million global users, dwarfing any news channel entirely.

    Israel is losing this war in social media, and losing it badly - where it matters most.

    Its a blow to Israel's image, it will be taught around the middle east and most of the world on what Israel's position is regarding foreigners.
    Yet what gets shown on childrens tv in certain Middle East countries gets barely a mention.

    We already know about ISIS (or IS now), so we have an idea.

    Imagine though a war between ISIS and Israel, it will be the most fanatical and blood churning war since medieval times and difficult to predict who would win if anyone.
    This will never happen; because despite their theoretical enmity, the two groups are aligned in terms of their geopolitical aims in the Middle East. ISIS is a Saudi backed creation, fighting for a Balkanised Iraq and Syria that will prevent either of these countries from threatening Israel.
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