"Classism, sexism, anti-environmentalism bordering on racism..."
This from the comments made me chuckle,
I look forward to next weeks article Chess - Racist? The white guys get to move first!
It's also sexist because the Queen can move as many squares as she wants - well in a straight or diagonal line - whereas the King can only move one square (apart from "castling" of course)
Here's a win for the sensible wing of the coalition and a slap-down for Ozzy:
"The government has today confirmed the UK will retain its fourth carbon budget in its current form, ending speculation that the target for the mid-2020s could be watered down.
The Financial Times reported this morning that Chancellor George Osborne had been forced to back down in his long-running attempt to dilute the legally-binding target, which covers the period from 2022 to 2027 and effectively requires the UK to halve its greenhouse gas emissions against 1990 levels by 2027.
A written ministerial statement from Energy and Climate Change Secretary Ed Davey was released mid-morning confirming the Fourth Carbon Budget would not be amended. "The budget, which covers the period 2023 to 2027, will therefore stay at its existing level of 1950 MtCO2 equivalent," Davey said."
Basically, UKIP could pick up upto ten seats. But these would not be the Rotherham kind. More like, Thanet S, Thurrock, Great Grimsby , and some in Lincs., Essex,Kent, Cambs, Norfolk, Suffolk.
UKIP could easily target these seats. I guess the Tory vote will collapse here. This is the mirror opposite of Lib Dem gains over the years when they concentrated on Labour supporters to vote tactically against the Tories.
“At first blush, Thomas and his friends seem rather placid and mild. And there are certainly a lot worse shows in terms of in-your-face violence, sexism, racism and classism. But looks can be deceiving: the constant bent of messages about friendship, work, class, gender and race sends my kid the absolute wrong message.”
Blimey, life must be an absolute riot in the neurotic Van Slyke household. - Wonder what she makes of Dr Who...
The Thomas the Tank Engine article is amusing. Nothing more.
One woman's crazed view does not constitute the views of "The Left" no matter how much the PB Tories wish it were true. My son loves the show and the toys.
The best character is Cranky the Crane who is a dockside badass with a temperament akin to PBers of a Monday morning, when faced with a boundaries thread.
The thing about Thurrock, has any party ever come from fifth to win?
They were 5th behind the BNP, and nearly 13k behind Con and Lab.
The average UKIPper disagrees very little with the BNP. For example, looking at the UKIPper massive in the DT comments, how many UKIPpers would seriously disagree that Britain is "a multicultural shithole" which is under the process of "ethnic cleansing" and faces many more Lee Rigby-style executions perpetrated by "tribal African" people?
The thing is, that is the considered view of the new leader of the BNP. Anyone espousing the milder view - that EU immigration is a bit out of hand, and we need to do something about our borders - is a Tory, not a UKIPper.
So in that seat you could add UKIP to BNP and reckon from there.
Is it me or is this still good news for Labour (and the Kippers)?
Usual PB Tories celebrating but this poll still seems dire for them.
Am I misreading it somehow?
It's bad for Labour in the sense that it is not as good as it was. But in the final analysis any party taking seats from the Tories is good news for Labour.
Several of those seats though are right up for grabs if those figures are realistic. I can't believe how close the Conservatives are in Amber Valley. Edward needs to take all these seats to win, he might not get up to half these, WWC defecting to UKIP could be a massive problem for Edward, it could cost seats. Certainly from a Midlands perspective once WWC guys have pitched their tent to UKIP they won't change easily there is a certain stubbornness there.
I moved to Conservative last election and if Labour don't change dramatically I won't be going back.
I'm very close to the ground, I can confirm ukip are gaining far more votes from labour than tory. Put bluntly, it is blue collar workers in working class areas that are disadvantaged most by immigration: education, health services and job prospects are all affected. Worryingly for labour they know that but have absolutely no response.
hahahahahahahahahahaha.
hold on.
You mean they're not all retired colonels sitting in golf clubs in the commuter belt??
I mean really. The very thought that the only Lab=>UKIP switcher we have on PB has been telling the truth THE WHOLE TIME!
Can you be serious??
What will those of a leftwards persuation on here think of that? Will their brains explode?
The thing about Thurrock, has any party ever come from fifth to win?
They were 5th behind the BNP, and nearly 13k behind Con and Lab.
The average UKIPper disagrees very little with the BNP. For example, looking at the UKIPper massive in the DT comments, how many UKIPpers would seriously disagree that Britain is "a multicultural shithole" which is under the process of "ethnic cleansing" and faces many more Lee Rigby-style executions perpetrated by "tribal African" people?
The thing is, that is the considered view of the new leader of the BNP. Anyone espousing the milder view - that EU immigration is a bit out of hand, and we need to do something about our borders - is a Tory, not a UKIPper.
So in that seat you could add UKIP to BNP and reckon from there.
I know you are trolling, but it is fair to say that you have to allocate a large % of the BNP vote to UKIP. Whether kippers like it or not, its obvious that we are the party BNP supporters are most likely to vote for.
Especially in Thurrock, if anyone cared to listen to the BBC radio programme I linked to...
I'm very close to the ground, I can confirm ukip are gaining far more votes from labour than tory. Put bluntly, it is blue collar workers in working class areas that are disadvantaged most by immigration: education, health services and job prospects are all affected. Worryingly for labour they know that but have absolutely no response.
hahahahahahahahahahaha.
hold on.
You mean they're not all retired colonels sitting in golf clubs in the commuter belt??
I mean really. The very thought that the only Lab=>UKIP switcher we have on PB has been telling the truth THE WHOLE TIME!
Can you be serious??
What will those of a leftwards persuation on here think of that? Will their brains explode?
(good post)
They normally pretend that I am not a Lab>UKIP switcher, and that I am inventing working class family & mates
Its a shame the noble lord does not do polling in Great Grimbsy and Rotherham.
Maybe he doesn't want to alert Labour to the possibility they may be in trouble in those constituencies.
You will be surprised how much private polling parties undertake. Plus canvassing nowadays is a all the yera round activity - not just in the 3 weeks prior to an election.
I see Mr Bond is continuing his recruitment campaign for Ukip. I suppose someone has to take over from Rotherham children's services.
The Trojan Horse story is bad for all parties. A small minority can make the running if any criticism can be called racism. And Labour is associated with this (possibly unfairly) in the minds of the voters in same way that they get positive feedback when anyone mentions the NHS.
I expected Ukip to decline slowly, at least until the conferences, but the black (not n a racist connotation) swans are helping out.
The thing about Thurrock, has any party ever come from fifth to win?
They were 5th behind the BNP, and nearly 13k behind Con and Lab.
The average UKIPper disagrees very little with the BNP. For example, looking at the UKIPper massive in the DT comments, how many UKIPpers would seriously disagree that Britain is "a multicultural shithole" which is under the process of "ethnic cleansing" and faces many more Lee Rigby-style executions perpetrated by "tribal African" people?
The thing is, that is the considered view of the new leader of the BNP. Anyone espousing the milder view - that EU immigration is a bit out of hand, and we need to do something about our borders - is a Tory, not a UKIPper.
So in that seat you could add UKIP to BNP and reckon from there.
I know you are trolling, but it is fair to say that you have to allocate a large % of the BNP vote to UKIP. Whether kippers like it or not, its obvious that we are the party BNP supporters are most likely to vote for.
Especially in Thurrock, if anyone cared to listen to the BBC radio programme I linked to...
I'm not trolling. The DT comments are packed with people who self-identify as UKIP but who would upvote to the rafters any such sentiments as those above.
It's similar to the way that Vince Cable disagrees with Labour on essentially nothing, and is a LibDem only because in their smaller pond he looks like a bigger fish.
That piece only talks about an incident involving him chasing after children and slashing their bicycle tyres, which sounds like the kind of educational innovation that should be tested in a Free School, but apparently Michael Gove banned him from teaching. (Maybe he should have another go now that Gove is gone?) But more to the point, is he any good at politics?
The thing about Thurrock, has any party ever come from fifth to win?
They were 5th behind the BNP, and nearly 13k behind Con and Lab.
The average UKIPper disagrees very little with the BNP. For example, looking at the UKIPper massive in the DT comments, how many UKIPpers would seriously disagree that Britain is "a multicultural shithole" which is under the process of "ethnic cleansing" and faces many more Lee Rigby-style executions perpetrated by "tribal African" people?
The thing is, that is the considered view of the new leader of the BNP. Anyone espousing the milder view - that EU immigration is a bit out of hand, and we need to do something about our borders - is a Tory, not a UKIPper.
So in that seat you could add UKIP to BNP and reckon from there.
I know you are trolling, but it is fair to say that you have to allocate a large % of the BNP vote to UKIP. Whether kippers like it or not, its obvious that we are the party BNP supporters are most likely to vote for.
Especially in Thurrock, if anyone cared to listen to the BBC radio programme I linked to...
I'm not trolling. The DT comments are packed with people who self-identify as UKIP but who would upvote to the rafters any such sentiments as those above.
It's similar to the way that Vince Cable disagrees with Labour on essentially nothing, and is a LibDem only because in their smaller pond he looks like a bigger fish.
You have to wonder why they don't just vote BNP then don't you?
The thing about Thurrock, has any party ever come from fifth to win?
They were 5th behind the BNP, and nearly 13k behind Con and Lab.
The average UKIPper disagrees very little with the BNP. For example, looking at the UKIPper massive in the DT comments, how many UKIPpers would seriously disagree that Britain is "a multicultural shithole" which is under the process of "ethnic cleansing" and faces many more Lee Rigby-style executions perpetrated by "tribal African" people?
The thing is, that is the considered view of the new leader of the BNP. Anyone espousing the milder view - that EU immigration is a bit out of hand, and we need to do something about our borders - is a Tory, not a UKIPper.
So in that seat you could add UKIP to BNP and reckon from there.
I know you are trolling, but it is fair to say that you have to allocate a large % of the BNP vote to UKIP. Whether kippers like it or not, its obvious that we are the party BNP supporters are most likely to vote for.
Especially in Thurrock, if anyone cared to listen to the BBC radio programme I linked to...
I'm not trolling. The DT comments are packed with people who self-identify as UKIP but who would upvote to the rafters any such sentiments as those above.
It's similar to the way that Vince Cable disagrees with Labour on essentially nothing, and is a LibDem only because in their smaller pond he looks like a bigger fish.
You have to wonder why they don't just vote BNP then don't you?
Curious delay on Test squad announcement. Think something big is brewing...
I don't have any confidence that the ECB will pick a better squad even if there are changes.
I don't think there's a better squad out there, that's truly depressing.
I mean if Simon Kerrigan is our best spinner, then we're Daffy Ducked.
What happened to Monty Panesar, I mean I know he got wasted in that nightclub and has gone through a divorce but he was a pretty good spinner.
I think he is struggling to get in the Essex team
India aren't picking a specialist spinner, Jadeja is a bit of a rock n roll Moeen Ali.
It was only an over, but Ballance looked like he could bowl at Trent Bridge. Root can bowl spin too.We have to face facts; we haven't got a decent spinner, unless this Riley kid is the real deal
The thing about Thurrock, has any party ever come from fifth to win?
They were 5th behind the BNP, and nearly 13k behind Con and Lab.
The average UKIPper disagrees very little with the BNP. For example, looking at the UKIPper massive in the DT comments, how many UKIPpers would seriously disagree that Britain is "a multicultural shithole" which is under the process of "ethnic cleansing" and faces many more Lee Rigby-style executions perpetrated by "tribal African" people?
The thing is, that is the considered view of the new leader of the BNP. Anyone espousing the milder view - that EU immigration is a bit out of hand, and we need to do something about our borders - is a Tory, not a UKIPper.
So in that seat you could add UKIP to BNP and reckon from there.
I know you are trolling, but it is fair to say that you have to allocate a large % of the BNP vote to UKIP. Whether kippers like it or not, its obvious that we are the party BNP supporters are most likely to vote for.
Especially in Thurrock, if anyone cared to listen to the BBC radio programme I linked to...
I'm not trolling. The DT comments are packed with people who self-identify as UKIP but who would upvote to the rafters any such sentiments as those above.
It's similar to the way that Vince Cable disagrees with Labour on essentially nothing, and is a LibDem only because in their smaller pond he looks like a bigger fish.
You have to wonder why they don't just vote BNP then don't you?
They don't any more.
Yeah that's why I said you have to wonder why!
More people voted BNP than UKIP in Thurrock in 2010. I take it there will be a BNP candidate in 2015, so why do they prefer UKIP now?
I may not be the first to notice this, but the swing away from the LDs over wave 1 and 2 is shocking. How can they still be being squeezed at such low numbers? If this hollowing out of support is born out the lost deposits betting will be very interesting.
Curious delay on Test squad announcement. Think something big is brewing...
I don't have any confidence that the ECB will pick a better squad even if there are changes.
I don't think there's a better squad out there, that's truly depressing.
I mean if Simon Kerrigan is our best spinner, then we're Daffy Ducked.
What happened to Monty Panesar, I mean I know he got wasted in that nightclub and has gone through a divorce but he was a pretty good spinner.
I think he is struggling to get in the Essex team
India aren't picking a specialist spinner, Jadeja is a bit of a rock n roll Moeen Ali.
It was only an over, but Ballance looked like he could bowl at Trent Bridge. Root can bowl spin too.We have to face facts; we haven't got a decent spinner, unless this Riley kid is the real deal
Depends on the pitch at Southampton but it hasn't historically been an obvious spinning heaven so I don't think I'd pick a specialist spinner so that looks reasonable. (By contrast, I would be very tempted to bring the evergreen Gareth Batty in for the Oval test as a specialist experienced, on-form spinner if the wicket is anything like the ones Surrey have been playing on so far this season.)
"Classism, sexism, anti-environmentalism bordering on racism..."
Its not 1st April is it?
This from the comments made me chuckle,
I look forward to next weeks article Chess - Racist? The white guys get to move first!
I thought it was a Sean T style spoof when I read it.
Possibly it is. As SeanT has explained, it is all about "shares"
Doubt it.
Any obsession is unhealthy - when you can only see the world through one filter. Even worse when you push it onto your children: "My son, now three-and-a-half years old, thankfully never never went through a manic train fascination like so many other children".
I live right next to a Thomas the Tank Engine steam railway. Lots and lots of happy children, that's what I can tell you. Proper family fun.
The thing about Thurrock, has any party ever come from fifth to win?
They were 5th behind the BNP, and nearly 13k behind Con and Lab.
The average UKIPper disagrees very little with the BNP. For example, looking at the UKIPper massive in the DT comments, how many UKIPpers would seriously disagree that Britain is "a multicultural shithole" which is under the process of "ethnic cleansing" and faces many more Lee Rigby-style executions perpetrated by "tribal African" people?
The thing is, that is the considered view of the new leader of the BNP. Anyone espousing the milder view - that EU immigration is a bit out of hand, and we need to do something about our borders - is a Tory, not a UKIPper.
So in that seat you could add UKIP to BNP and reckon from there.
You have fundamentally misunderstood the nature of UKIP's divergence from The Conservatives. It is not extremity of viewpoint that seperates them, it is the determination that action must follow sentiment. It may be that many Tories feel 'EU immigration is a bit out of hand, and we need to do something about our borders' -but the upper echelons of their party will simply NEVER allow that. Those who do attempt to advance such initiatives within the Tory party are darkly hinted at as being 'ideological' -a smear that means nutter.
To believe that 'EU immigration is a bit out of hand, and we need to do something about our borders' but to remain within the Conservative indicates either terminal delusion or intellectual cowardice. Ukipper's haven't moved away from the Tory Party, the Tory Party has been taken from them.
"Classism, sexism, anti-environmentalism bordering on racism..."
Its not 1st April is it?
This from the comments made me chuckle,
I look forward to next weeks article Chess - Racist? The white guys get to move first!
I thought it was a Sean T style spoof when I read it.
Possibly it is. As SeanT has explained, it is all about "shares"
Doubt it.
Any obsession is unhealthy - when you can only see the world through one filter. Even worse when you push it onto your children: "My son, now three-and-a-half years old, thankfully never never went through a manic train fascination like so many other children".
I live right next to a Thomas the Tank Engine steam railway. Lots and lots of happy children, that's what I can tell you. Proper family fun.
Nowt wrong with trains! Now where did I leave my model....
The thing about Thurrock, has any party ever come from fifth to win?
They were 5th behind the BNP, and nearly 13k behind Con and Lab.
The average UKIPper disagrees very little with the BNP. For example, looking at the UKIPper massive in the DT comments, how many UKIPpers would seriously disagree that Britain is "a multicultural shithole" which is under the process of "ethnic cleansing" and faces many more Lee Rigby-style executions perpetrated by "tribal African" people?
The thing is, that is the considered view of the new leader of the BNP. Anyone espousing the milder view - that EU immigration is a bit out of hand, and we need to do something about our borders - is a Tory, not a UKIPper.
So in that seat you could add UKIP to BNP and reckon from there.
You have fundamentally misunderstood the nature of UKIP's divergence from The Conservatives. It is not extremity of viewpoint that seperates them, it is the determination that action must follow sentiment. It may be that many Tories feel 'EU immigration is a bit out of hand, and we need to do something about our borders' -but the upper echelons of their party will simply NEVER allow that. Those who do attempt to advance such initiatives within the Tory party are darkly hinted at as being 'ideological' -a smear that means nutter.
To believe that 'EU immigration is a bit out of hand, and we need to do something about our borders' but to remain within the Conservative indicates either terminal delusion or intellectual cowardice. Ukipper's haven't moved away from the Tory Party, the Tory Party has been taken from them.
Considering you're an Assad and Putin apologist, I'm glad you think the Tory party isn't for you.
I think there's a revelation of black swans circling overhead so **** nose.
I agree that the likelihood of an ugly market event between now and May is quite high. Russia, China credit bubble, faliure of Abenomics, middle-east, grossly overvalued equity markets, Eurozone meltdown reawakens, blah, blah, blah.
And who'd you rather have handling the fallout of that? Dave n Ozzy or Ed n Ed? That's a no-brainer.
Is there anything in what we have seen so far other than blind tribalism to suggest that Cameron & Osborne would become political colossuses overnight in the event of a major financial crisis? I for one hope for all our sakes it is not put to the test.
The thing about Thurrock, has any party ever come from fifth to win?
They were 5th behind the BNP, and nearly 13k behind Con and Lab.
The average UKIPper disagrees very little with the BNP. For example, looking at the UKIPper massive in the DT comments, how many UKIPpers would seriously disagree that Britain is "a multicultural shithole" which is under the process of "ethnic cleansing" and faces many more Lee Rigby-style executions perpetrated by "tribal African" people?
The thing is, that is the considered view of the new leader of the BNP. Anyone espousing the milder view - that EU immigration is a bit out of hand, and we need to do something about our borders - is a Tory, not a UKIPper.
So in that seat you could add UKIP to BNP and reckon from there.
You have fundamentally misunderstood the nature of UKIP's divergence from The Conservatives. It is not extremity of viewpoint that seperates them, it is the determination that action must follow sentiment. It may be that many Tories feel 'EU immigration is a bit out of hand, and we need to do something about our borders' -but the upper echelons of their party will simply NEVER allow that. Those who do attempt to advance such initiatives within the Tory party are darkly hinted at as being 'ideological' -a smear that means nutter.
To believe that 'EU immigration is a bit out of hand, and we need to do something about our borders' but to remain within the Conservative indicates either terminal delusion or intellectual cowardice. Ukipper's haven't moved away from the Tory Party, the Tory Party has been taken from them.
Considering you're an Assad and Putin apologist, I'm glad you think the Tory party isn't for you.
The thing about Thurrock, has any party ever come from fifth to win?
They were 5th behind the BNP, and nearly 13k behind Con and Lab.
The average UKIPper disagrees very little with the BNP. For example, looking at the UKIPper massive in the DT comments, how many UKIPpers would seriously disagree that Britain is "a multicultural shithole" which is under the process of "ethnic cleansing" and faces many more Lee Rigby-style executions perpetrated by "tribal African" people?
The thing is, that is the considered view of the new leader of the BNP. Anyone espousing the milder view - that EU immigration is a bit out of hand, and we need to do something about our borders - is a Tory, not a UKIPper.
So in that seat you could add UKIP to BNP and reckon from there.
You have fundamentally misunderstood the nature of UKIP's divergence from The Conservatives. It is not extremity of viewpoint that seperates them, it is the determination that action must follow sentiment. It may be that many Tories feel 'EU immigration is a bit out of hand, and we need to do something about our borders' -but the upper echelons of their party will simply NEVER allow that. Those who do attempt to advance such initiatives within the Tory party are darkly hinted at as being 'ideological' -a smear that means nutter.
To believe that 'EU immigration is a bit out of hand, and we need to do something about our borders' but to remain within the Conservative indicates either terminal delusion or intellectual cowardice. Ukipper's haven't moved away from the Tory Party, the Tory Party has been taken from them.
Considering you're an Assad and Putin apologist, I'm glad you think the Tory party isn't for you.
I think there's a revelation of black swans circling overhead so **** nose.
I agree that the likelihood of an ugly market event between now and May is quite high. Russia, China credit bubble, faliure of Abenomics, middle-east, grossly overvalued equity markets, Eurozone meltdown reawakens, blah, blah, blah.
And who'd you rather have handling the fallout of that? Dave n Ozzy or Ed n Ed? That's a no-brainer.
Is there anything in what we have seen so far other than blind tribalism to suggest that Cameron & Osborne would become political colossuses overnight in the event of a major financial crisis? I for one hope for all our sakes it is not put to the test.
Seeing as they're currently trusted much more on the economy than Ed n Ed, that's not really a very good argument.
Interesting Red Bull and Williams are both 9 to top score in Hungary. Red Bull's superior chassis will make them relatively faster, compared to Hockenheim, but I suspect Williams may now be a cut above them.
Unfortunately, it'll almost certainly take a reliability failure for them to beat Mercedes, and retirements are few at the Hungaroring.
I am trying to follow up my groundbreaking (6 comments) article on Mass Immigration's affect on the Working Class with one on advertising in gambling.
The more I think of it , the more I'm drawn to the idea that advertising of alcohol and gambling should not be allowed on tv, as per smoking.
If gambling is allowed to be advertised, it should be no more than the equivalent of a board with the odds on before a match or at half time/between overs
I am trying to follow up my groundbreaking (6 comments) article on Mass Immigration's affect on the Working Class with one on advertising in gambling.
The more I think of it , the more I'm drawn to the idea that advertising of alcohol and gambling should not be allowed on tv, as per smoking.
If gambling is allowed to be advertised, it should be no more than the equivalent of a board with the odds on before a match or at half time/between overs
I am trying to follow up my groundbreaking (6 comments) article on Mass Immigration's affect on the Working Class with one on advertising in gambling.
The more I think of it , the more I'm drawn to the idea that advertising of alcohol and gambling should not be allowed on tv, as per smoking.
If gambling is allowed to be advertised, it should be no more than the equivalent of a board with the odds on before a match or at half time/between overs
The problem is "gambling" covers a whole range which vendors and opponents like to keep confused. The scourge of high streets is so-called FOBTs (high stakes fruit machines, basically) in betting shops. This is not the same as bingo or the National Lottery, for instance, and nor is it the same as "proper" betting as practised by denizens of pb -- where you can, by virtue of skill, information or analysis, win.
One thing about the Indy ref - look at the amount of Jam & Apple Pie that has been stuffed Scotland's way since it's been announced.
If I was in Scotland I'd probably vote No/SNP...
Pulpstar can you tell me what jam & apple pie you are talking about. I have only seen cuts and vague promises to stiff us with income tax whilst slashing the budget and leaving us in the mire.
I'm not sure that this link has been posted yet. It looks at the Ashcroft 14 in terms of Mosaic demographics, and compares this with correlation data on how the different demographics vote.
With the retirement of Prescott and others, who are the working class leaders at the top of the Labour party that regularly appear on tv? Attacking Cameron and co as middle class public school etc could just draw attention to the lack of few WWC that Labour have. e.g. SoS Education vs Shadow SoS Eduation.
Another factor is age. Cameron may have made a mistake in shipping out some grey heads, but his cabinet still look older than Miliband's. We all know that older voters have the highest voting records. It should be a good aim to look like your voters.
Might Darling and Johnson return in an autumn reshuffle?
It would probably help Labour at the GE. Another Scot at the top may also help hold back the SNP surge.
LOL, Darling is hated almost as much as Brown. What planet do you boys live on. labour are in the crap in Scotland, the only way the SNP are going is UP. Only a YES vote will mean a drop in SNP votes and even then not immediately.
One thing about the Indy ref - look at the amount of Jam & Apple Pie that has been stuffed Scotland's way since it's been announced.
If I was in Scotland I'd probably vote No/SNP...
Pulpstar can you tell me what jam & apple pie you are talking about. I have only seen cuts and vague promises to stiff us with income tax whilst slashing the budget and leaving us in the mire.
More powers over income tax, Glasgow shipping being more looked after than Pompey are a couple that spring to mind.
PM: We agreed Dutch request for air accident investigators at Farnborough to retrieve data from MH17 black boxes for international analysis
But will the Russians trust us?
Interesting that the country from which MH17 departed and with the highest death count should entrust the black boxes with the UK - Is the choice of Farnborough entirely professional or part political I wonder?
The thing about Thurrock, has any party ever come from fifth to win?
They were 5th behind the BNP, and nearly 13k behind Con and Lab.
The average UKIPper disagrees very little with the BNP. For example, looking at the UKIPper massive in the DT comments, how many UKIPpers would seriously disagree that Britain is "a multicultural shithole" which is under the process of "ethnic cleansing" and faces many more Lee Rigby-style executions perpetrated by "tribal African" people?
The thing is, that is the considered view of the new leader of the BNP. Anyone espousing the milder view - that EU immigration is a bit out of hand, and we need to do something about our borders - is a Tory, not a UKIPper.
So in that seat you could add UKIP to BNP and reckon from there.
You have fundamentally misunderstood the nature of UKIP's divergence from The Conservatives. It is not extremity of viewpoint that seperates them, it is the determination that action must follow sentiment. It may be that many Tories feel 'EU immigration is a bit out of hand, and we need to do something about our borders' -but the upper echelons of their party will simply NEVER allow that. Those who do attempt to advance such initiatives within the Tory party are darkly hinted at as being 'ideological' -a smear that means nutter.
To believe that 'EU immigration is a bit out of hand, and we need to do something about our borders' but to remain within the Conservative indicates either terminal delusion or intellectual cowardice. Ukipper's haven't moved away from the Tory Party, the Tory Party has been taken from them.
Considering you're an Assad and Putin apologist, I'm glad you think the Tory party isn't for you.
At least Assad and Putin aren't Islamists.
Whilst the Syrian Government is secular, President Assad is an Alawite.
The Alawites, also known as Alawis (ʿAlawīyyah Arabic: علوية), are a prominent mystical religious group, centred in Syria, who follow a branch of the Twelver school of Shia Islam.
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What next, politically correct Trumpton??
''Pugh, Pugh, Barney McGrew, Ramirez, Mohammed, Patel'
Who is the most powerful piece on the board. A Queen.
Watch this, esp 2:26 in
I'm sure that bearded fellow imposts on here
http://youtu.be/aLlrfEYtqFU
Con gain Doncaster North
Just MOE variation I suspect.
Hardly cause for either celebration or woe.
Consistent with my view that there is sod all happening but good for Ukip @Isam
Labour have Rachel Reeves which is no doubt good enough for @Sunil
"The government has today confirmed the UK will retain its fourth carbon budget in its current form, ending speculation that the target for the mid-2020s could be watered down.
The Financial Times reported this morning that Chancellor George Osborne had been forced to back down in his long-running attempt to dilute the legally-binding target, which covers the period from 2022 to 2027 and effectively requires the UK to halve its greenhouse gas emissions against 1990 levels by 2027.
A written ministerial statement from Energy and Climate Change Secretary Ed Davey was released mid-morning confirming the Fourth Carbon Budget would not be amended. "The budget, which covers the period 2023 to 2027, will therefore stay at its existing level of 1950 MtCO2 equivalent," Davey said."
Theresa May launches wholesale review of police disciplinary system - We need to go further, she says #ninor
steve hawkes @steve_hawkes
Police disciplinary hearings will be held in public, the Home Secretary adds
steve hawkes @steve_hawkes
Consultation on police whistleblowing to be launched.. Theresa May wants "sealed investigations"
UKIP could easily target these seats. I guess the Tory vote will collapse here. This is the mirror opposite of Lib Dem gains over the years when they concentrated on Labour supporters to vote tactically against the Tories.
Blimey, life must be an absolute riot in the neurotic Van Slyke household. - Wonder what she makes of Dr Who...
One woman's crazed view does not constitute the views of "The Left" no matter how much the PB Tories wish it were true. My son loves the show and the toys.
The best character is Cranky the Crane who is a dockside badass with a temperament akin to PBers of a Monday morning, when faced with a boundaries thread.
The thing is, that is the considered view of the new leader of the BNP. Anyone espousing the milder view - that EU immigration is a bit out of hand, and we need to do something about our borders - is a Tory, not a UKIPper.
So in that seat you could add UKIP to BNP and reckon from there.
I moved to Conservative last election and if Labour don't change dramatically I won't be going back.
hold on.
You mean they're not all retired colonels sitting in golf clubs in the commuter belt??
I mean really. The very thought that the only Lab=>UKIP switcher we have on PB has been telling the truth THE WHOLE TIME!
Can you be serious??
What will those of a leftwards persuation on here think of that? Will their brains explode?
(good post)
Especially in Thurrock, if anyone cared to listen to the BBC radio programme I linked to...
Lawrence Booth @the_topspin 8m
Curious delay on Test squad announcement. Think something big is brewing...
Based on Lord Ashcroft's latest marginal poll, Labour is doing worse in the marginals than it is nationally.
The Trojan Horse story is bad for all parties. A small minority can make the running if any criticism can be called racism. And Labour is associated with this (possibly unfairly) in the minds of the voters in same way that they get positive feedback when anyone mentions the NHS.
I expected Ukip to decline slowly, at least until the conferences, but the black (not n a racist connotation) swans are helping out.
It's similar to the way that Vince Cable disagrees with Labour on essentially nothing, and is a LibDem only because in their smaller pond he looks like a bigger fish.
http://www.politics.co.uk/news/2014/07/21/nick-griffin-ousted-as-bnp-leader
That piece only talks about an incident involving him chasing after children and slashing their bicycle tyres, which sounds like the kind of educational innovation that should be tested in a Free School, but apparently Michael Gove banned him from teaching. (Maybe he should have another go now that Gove is gone?) But more to the point, is he any good at politics?
I mean if Simon Kerrigan is our best spinner, then we're Daffy Ducked.
India aren't picking a specialist spinner, Jadeja is a bit of a rock n roll Moeen Ali.
It was only an over, but Ballance looked like he could bowl at Trent Bridge. Root can bowl spin too.We have to face facts; we haven't got a decent spinner, unless this Riley kid is the real deal
I'd go
Cook, Carberry, Balance, Bell, Root, Ali, Jordan, Foster (c), Plunkett, Anderson, Finn
More people voted BNP than UKIP in Thurrock in 2010. I take it there will be a BNP candidate in 2015, so why do they prefer UKIP now?
"Poop, poop!" whistled Gordon.
They both then made sure they washed their hands before leaving the restroom.
Any obsession is unhealthy - when you can only see the world through one filter. Even worse when you push it onto your children: "My son, now three-and-a-half years old, thankfully never never went through a manic train fascination like so many other children".
I live right next to a Thomas the Tank Engine steam railway. Lots and lots of happy children, that's what I can tell you. Proper family fun.
George Osborne announces that the UK government is to give another £5 million to the fire-damaged Glasgow School of Art.
To believe that 'EU immigration is a bit out of hand, and we need to do something about our borders' but to remain within the Conservative indicates either terminal delusion or intellectual cowardice. Ukipper's haven't moved away from the Tory Party, the Tory Party has been taken from them.
I agree that the likelihood of an ugly market event between now and May is quite high. Russia, China credit bubble, faliure of Abenomics, middle-east, grossly overvalued equity markets, Eurozone meltdown reawakens, blah, blah, blah.
And who'd you rather have handling the fallout of that? Dave n Ozzy or Ed n Ed? That's a no-brainer.
Is there anything in what we have seen so far other than blind tribalism to suggest that Cameron & Osborne would become political colossuses overnight in the event of a major financial crisis? I for one hope for all our sakes it is not put to the test.
Interesting Red Bull and Williams are both 9 to top score in Hungary. Red Bull's superior chassis will make them relatively faster, compared to Hockenheim, but I suspect Williams may now be a cut above them.
Unfortunately, it'll almost certainly take a reliability failure for them to beat Mercedes, and retirements are few at the Hungaroring.
The more I think of it , the more I'm drawn to the idea that advertising of alcohol and gambling should not be allowed on tv, as per smoking.
If gambling is allowed to be advertised, it should be no more than the equivalent of a board with the odds on before a match or at half time/between overs
Damned Turians, coming over here, taking our jobs...
[Apparently there'll be some news on Mass Effect 4 fairly soon].
If alcohol advertising were banned that'd hit F1 pretty hard.
I have introduced PBers to many of the hip happening phrases, such as
1) MILF to Richard Nabavi
2) Changing at Baker Street to Morris Dancer
Beware boozed-up sugar junkie wasps
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p023c4ry
Your last two posts have been numbered 4,999. Please drop the other shoe.
And yes, I should get out more.
The idea of next corner market doesn't appeal to me - however I can see why England 1st inning runs markets might not appeal to others.
'The speak truth to power rangers' is my personal favourite.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/10982357/UK-deficit-widens-as-government-fails-to-reduce-borrowing.html
Look at the chap in the video, on the right hand side
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-07-22/france-prepared-to-cancel-warship-sale-to-russia.html
crispian balmer @crispiandjb 1m
Al Jazeera accuse Israel of firing at their Gaza office after foreign min Lieberman had denounced them. http://reut.rs/1yVFCke via @reuters
ITV News @itvnews 2m
BBC Arabic reporter attacked mid-broadcast by 'angry Israeli' http://itv.co/1p6ksZi
Obviously the worst is Ladbrokes, but I think they are all pretty bad.
PM: We agreed Dutch request for air accident investigators at Farnborough to retrieve data from MH17 black boxes for international analysis
But will the Russians trust us?
Might stoke up Hamas' popularity, but in pure military terms it doesn't matter.
On ads: obviously I don't mind gambling but the few ads I've seen all seem bloody obnoxious. If anything, they'd put me off rather than entice me.
I'm not sure that this link has been posted yet. It looks at the Ashcroft 14 in terms of Mosaic demographics, and compares this with correlation data on how the different demographics vote.
13 man squad announced. Includes Cook, Buttler for Prior but no Kerrigan
How many seats do you think labour might lose in 2015, on a net basis?
Whilst the Syrian Government is secular, President Assad is an Alawite.
The Alawites, also known as Alawis (ʿAlawīyyah Arabic: علوية), are a prominent mystical religious group, centred in Syria, who follow a branch of the Twelver school of Shia Islam.