If it was shot down accidentally then the question bounces back to why it was flying over an area that had seen three (IIRC) Ukraine military planes shot down in recent weeks.
It was in a zone that shouldn't have been flown in - Malaysian Airlines have blood on their hands.
If it was shot down accidentally then the question bounces back to why it was flying over an area that had seen three (IIRC) Ukraine military planes shot down in recent weeks.
It was in a zone that shouldn't have been flown in - Malaysian Airlines have blood on their hands.
Miss Plato, I think it was last year, though could be wrong.
It was practically a satirical swipe at the BBC's stupidity over F1 and general poor decision making. Only it actually happened, as opposed to being a sketch.
So accidentally shot down by the separatists thinking it was another Antonov - unless people think they shot down a civilian air liner deliberately - or deliberately by the other side (as the separatists don't have any planes to shoot down IIRC).
If it was shot down accidentally then the question bounces back to why it was flying over an area that had seen three (IIRC) Ukraine military planes shot down in recent weeks.
(It would be good to know what height the downed Ukrainian military planes were flying as if it was a lot lower than the air liner that might explain air liners still being allowed to fly over that area.)
I believe that at least one Ukraine aircraft was on approach to land.
@perdix They can back track the flight of a mortar bomb. I feel sure the have much the same in place on a larger scale for missiles. They have no problem saying where and when the North Koreans do a launch?
Actually those numbers would likely indicate a continuance of the present Coalition with a formal majority of 16 but of course somewhat higher with the absence of SF and also an element of less formal support from the Unionists.
Difficult but another 5 years a distinct probability.
Whilst that might be the logical outcome, and one favoured by the leadership of both parties, I'm not sure the appetite for a new coalition can be relied upon either amongst Conservative MPs (who this time will get a vote, not a fait accompli as last time), or amongst the wider LibDem Party, who would also have to approve any deal.
On the hypothesis of 304 Con seats, they might try to wing it having done some kind of deal with the DUP. It's not an outcome which I view with equanimity: it would be very high-risk and likely to collapse into recriminations and instability.
Conservatives and LibDems need to reflect on all the wonder of Opposition and all the power it doesn't bring.
Owen Paterson continues to emerge as an outside leadership contender for the Tory sweep stakes taking place next year.He has the backing of Lord Lawson,which must also mean Exxon Mobile,the Koch Bros. etc..He is ideally placed to be the Tory tea-party candidate.If he gets the backing of Fox News-good for hunting reports- and its' proprietor he could be in business. This is a man to be feared.He said he would not be silenced and he meant what he said. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10975822/Owen-Paterson-to-give-climate-sceptic-groups-keynote-address.html
Owen Paterson continues to emerge as an outside leadership contender for the Tory sweep stakes taking place next year.He has the backing of Lord Lawson,which must also mean Exxon Mobile,the Koch Bros. etc..
@perdix They can back track the flight of a mortar bomb. I feel sure the have much the same in place on a larger scale for missiles. They have no problem saying where and when the North Koreans do a launch?
Comrade, modern militaries can indeed track the flight of a single mortar bomb back to it launch point and do it jolly quickly too. However, only if they have the right bit of kit looking in the right direction at the right time. Spotting the unexpected launch of a surface to air missile is a wholly different cauldron of octopus. Do the great powers have the ability to do it? Probably, if they were looking in the right direction at the right time with a satellite equipped with right sort of sensor. What are the chances of that given the limited number of satellites and the number of areas of interest? What is for sure is that some people's expectations of what modern military technology can do owns more to Tom Clancy novels than real life.
Miss Plato, I think it was last year, though could be wrong.
It was practically a satirical swipe at the BBC's stupidity over F1 and general poor decision making. Only it actually happened, as opposed to being a sketch.
They're clearly very keen on radio commentary re synchronised swimming in that case - it was definitely an Olympics when I heard them do it - and it was too long ago for London.
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I can get golf on the radio - but a synchronised diving competition?
option 2) they both do but neither are sure there's a good way to spin it
It was practically a satirical swipe at the BBC's stupidity over F1 and general poor decision making. Only it actually happened, as opposed to being a sketch.
They can back track the flight of a mortar bomb. I feel sure the have much the same in place on a larger scale for missiles. They have no problem saying where and when the North Koreans do a launch?
Silvio's convictions and the bar on him holding elected office have been overturned.
Bunga Bunga
This is a man to be feared.He said he would not be silenced and he meant what he said.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10975822/Owen-Paterson-to-give-climate-sceptic-groups-keynote-address.html
Phew, it's all alright.....
http://www.mediafire.com/view/74et9rnah5eau8u/YouGov_180714.jpg
1) The Gold Standard has the Tories ahead
2) Populus has a tie
3) A Poll shows the Indyref being closer than anticipated
The reason Labour supporters are being so relaxed, they have the t shirt that says
"Keep Calm and Remember Ed Miliband is our leader"
No sooner do I say it and voila, a new thread appears!!!