"If I were using that microscope right now on Roger, I still wouldn't be able to find an original thought in his head."
My friend and neighbour is making a film about the life of Eilleen Grey here in the South of France where she designed her famous house E-1027. To this end I have spent the evening going through with her as many samples of her and Corbusier's furniture as we could find.
I thought few things could be more tedious until i've just read what passes for an insult on here.
Ukip must be worried... Only gone from 2% to 18% in the last year... The wheels are coming off... Might ask for my £30 back
16% is the sweet spot for Labour. Unite should fund UKIP
I'd settle for that in terms of betting
And as I have only ever voted for Labour in my life and still have a illogical preference for them over conservatives (in the hope they might be more influenced by Jon Cruddas and Maurice Glasman than Harriet Harman and Diane Abbott)... So be it
A begging letter admits that UKIP is short of money, policies and personnel — and puts off voters because they fear that an insurgent Nigel Farage will let Labour into power.
In a significant re-casting of its pitch to would-be supporters, the party is asking voters to “lend” their support for next year’s European elections but to give no further commitment.
Any donations will be spent solely on the 2014 campaign, an effort to calm fears among traditional Conservative voters that the main beneficiary should they defect to UKIP would be Ed Miliband. The letter from Stuart Wheeler, the party’s treasurer, which has been seen by The Times, was sent on Monday, and addressed to “Dear Fellow-Eurosceptic”.
“A lot of you hesitate to support UKIP, whether financially or otherwise, for fear that to do so might allow Labour in when the next general election comes,” Mr Wheeler wrote.
To combat such concerns, the party is setting up a special bank account, the “2014 Campaign Account”. UKIP is already expected to capitalise on public disenchantment with the three main parties by winning more seats in next year’s poll. Mr Wheeler said that UKIP’s recent political successes have “disappointingly, not yet resulted in a surge of donations”.
Is that a letter addressed to Conservative Party donors, or a mass email to UKIP's spam list?
"If I were using that microscope right now on Roger, I still wouldn't be able to find an original thought in his head."
My friend and neighbour is making a film about the life of Eilleen Grey here in the South of France where she designed her famous house E-1027. To this end I have spent the evening going through with her as many samples of her and Corbusier's furniture as we could find.
I thought few things could be more tedious until I read what passes for an insult on here.
Tedious?
have you forgotten the threads on whether AV obtained a more democratic result than FPTP?
careful. If you continue to generalise Scots in a monolithic way like that you will have @SouthamObserver pulling you up... Oh no sorry you are left wing aren't you, he'll let it go
Gosh, SO has put a feather up your rear end.
Farage blustering about Britishness and stating that UKIP were now the true national party with support South, North, East and West turns many Scots pretty monolithic I find.
MSmithsonPB Result from the Rotherham council by-election:- UKIP 1143 Labour 1039 Conservative 107 BNP 80 TUSC 61 LD 28
labour,be very afraid - lol
It will be a tragedy for Labour if UKIP poll today's levels nationally
Yes tim, a tragedy of surpassing beauty; hubris triumphant and a gutting of the unions.
Not sure how UKIP lead to a "gutting of the unions" if the brain dead Tory old golf clubbers had any sense they'd be pro Trade Union in contrast to the Tory leadership they want to replace. Given the UKIP demographic many of those over 65 year old men are ex trades unionists.
Well it's simple, tim. The unions as a body seek power to make the unions even stronger, seemingly for their worker members but in reality, more power for the bosses, er leaders. The only way for political power is through the Labour party. Sans Labour, and very shortly sans union power and eventually sans unions.
I suppose the Conservatives could do a deal with UKIP whereby UKIP get a free run in their strongholds in the northern urban areas.
Wouldn't that undermine UKIPs efforts to draw voters away from Labour, as despite their protests they would confirm their status as Tory-Hard (as opposed to LDs being Labour-lite) and so trigger the same Anyone but them reaction as the conservatives in the end?
This pact rubbish still being talked about by the EU headbangers in the tory party and Farage even seems to be encouraging it. For the moment. As you rightly point out the nature of the protest vote would be severely curtailed should it be firmly linked to the tories but it serves Nigel's purpose to encourage the tories to lose their collective minds over Europe and it's not as if they ever need that much prompting to anyway.
Nigel's desperation for an MP or two might prompt some very silly moves come the GE but only at the expense of his total protest vote which is going to come up against the brick wall of FPTP anyway.
A begging letter admits that UKIP is short of money, policies and personnel — and puts off voters because they fear that an insurgent Nigel Farage will let Labour into power.
In a significant re-casting of its pitch to would-be supporters, the party is asking voters to “lend” their support for next year’s European elections but to give no further commitment.
Any donations will be spent solely on the 2014 campaign, an effort to calm fears among traditional Conservative voters that the main beneficiary should they defect to UKIP would be Ed Miliband. The letter from Stuart Wheeler, the party’s treasurer, which has been seen by The Times, was sent on Monday, and addressed to “Dear Fellow-Eurosceptic”.
“A lot of you hesitate to support UKIP, whether financially or otherwise, for fear that to do so might allow Labour in when the next general election comes,” Mr Wheeler wrote.
To combat such concerns, the party is setting up a special bank account, the “2014 Campaign Account”. UKIP is already expected to capitalise on public disenchantment with the three main parties by winning more seats in next year’s poll. Mr Wheeler said that UKIP’s recent political successes have “disappointingly, not yet resulted in a surge of donations”.
Is that a letter addressed to Conservative Party donors, or a mass email to UKIP's spam list?
There is nothing wrong in UKIP saying it needs funds. In fact UKIP is short of nearly everything that oils the wheels of a great political party. Indeed, UKIP have been caught short by their own successes and are a bit bemused by how quickly things have changed. A UKIP conference on 8th June should go a long way in making changes to improve matters.
careful. If you continue to generalise Scots in a monolithic way like that you will have @SouthamObserver pulling you up... Oh no sorry you are left wing aren't you, he'll let it go
Gosh, SO has put a feather up your rear end.
Farage blustering about Britishness and stating that UKIP were now the true national party with support South, North, East and West turns many Scots pretty monolithic I find.
If you say so. I just thought as king of the petty hair splitters he might point out that not all scots felt the same way, as he does for me when I mention working class people
But maybe it's just coincidence that he only pulls up those who disagree with him politically
It's possible
I'd be happy to vote for Scottish independence, what's the big deal?
Ukip must be worried... Only gone from 2% to 18% in the last year... The wheels are coming off... Might ask for my £30 back
16% is the sweet spot for Labour. Unite should fund UKIP
I'd settle for that in terms of betting
And as I have only ever voted for Labour in my life and still have a illogical preference for them over conservatives (in the hope they might be more influenced by Jon Cruddas and Maurice Glasman than Harriet Harman and Diane Abbott)... So be it
LibLabCon who cares
You'll be surprised how influential Jon Cruddas will prove
Yes - it will be a Blue Labour manifesto I should think. That's my guess.
Pleased to see you as I've been attempting to ask you a question for the last week.
Namely when can we expect to have a monthly trade surplus.
As this government is committed to ending the budget deficit and rebalancing the economy surely it wont go for a full five years without a single month of trade surplus ?
And after all the economic news keeps on getting 'better and better' doesn't it ;-)
I didn't miss your question, ar. In fact it has got me looking much more closely at the underlying figures.
What you need to do though is separate out Oil and Gas trade from the balance of trade figures.
2005 was the last year that Oil production was higher than domestic oil demand. In 2010, 14% or the UK's oil requirements needed to be imported. By 2015, this is due to rise to 35%.
With Gas, the crossover occurred a year earlier in 2004. Import dependency in 2010 was 41% forecast to rise to 45% in 2015.
The Balance of Trade figures are so sensitive to Oil and Gas trade that there can be no surplus without a significant change in the steep decline in output from the North Sea. DECC are currently forecasting flat output between now and 2015 (at 40 thousand tonnes of oil) with an upside of 50 thousand.
The BoE have let slip that oil output resulting from new investments is likely to impact on growth (and therefore BoT) as early as this year rather than in 2014 as previously believed.
I am looking closely at this to see where it might come from. There is only one active oilfield which is both new and increasing output, the Buzzard field, but it is both the largest discovery in the past 25 years and alone accounts for 20% of output. So critical is it to the national economy that the BBC run stories whenever there is a halt to production!
It may be that the Buzzard field upping its output will stabilise the overall decline: if Buzzard equals its January output (80% of its monthly peak last year) throughout 2013 it will account for 10 thousand tonnes or 25% of forecast for the year.
Even so new large fields need to come online for.the "best outcome estimates" of 50 thousand tonnes to be met. And for a balance of output to national demand current output would need to be doubled by 2015, which currently looks a lot more than just unlikely.
Anyway, I haven't finished my research so will keep your fires burning as I progress.
A begging letter admits that UKIP is short of money, policies and personnel — and puts off voters because they fear that an insurgent Nigel Farage will let Labour into power.
In a significant re-casting of its pitch to would-be supporters, the party is asking voters to “lend” their support for next year’s European elections but to give no further commitment.
Any donations will be spent solely on the 2014 campaign, an effort to calm fears among traditional Conservative voters that the main beneficiary should they defect to UKIP would be Ed Miliband. The letter from Stuart Wheeler, the party’s treasurer, which has been seen by The Times, was sent on Monday, and addressed to “Dear Fellow-Eurosceptic”.
“A lot of you hesitate to support UKIP, whether financially or otherwise, for fear that to do so might allow Labour in when the next general election comes,” Mr Wheeler wrote.
To combat such concerns, the party is setting up a special bank account, the “2014 Campaign Account”. UKIP is already expected to capitalise on public disenchantment with the three main parties by winning more seats in next year’s poll. Mr Wheeler said that UKIP’s recent political successes have “disappointingly, not yet resulted in a surge of donations”.
Is that a letter addressed to Conservative Party donors, or a mass email to UKIP's spam list?
There is nothing wrong in UKIP saying it needs funds. In fact UKIP is short of nearly everything that oils the wheels of a great political party. Indeed, UKIP have been caught short by their own successes and are a bit bemused by how quickly things have changed. A UKIP conference on 8th June should go a long way in making changes to improve matters.
All parties nag for money. That's not an issue. What's curious about the Times piece is that Mr Wheeler's letter seems to be pitched at Conservative Party loyalists.
When EdM became Labour leader 3 years ago perhaps he thought we would now be having excited talk about Labour nearly winning a council byelection in Wentworth.
Wentworth, Berkshire that is not Wentworth, Rotherham.
Its not a brave new dawn of an imminent Labour golden age is it.
Nigel should seek advice from Miss Annabel Goldie (Scottish Conservative) on how to deal with a rag tag of demonstrators. I do not agree with her politics, but hell would have frozen over before Annabel set foot in that police vehicle. As for Ian Gray, well, that's another story.
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So by that,lib dems big losers tonight.
http://www.rotherhamgolf.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Gallery/pages/Steelworks_jpg.htm
Its a steelworks surrounded by old terraced streets.
If seeing heavy industry is your thing then go to Rawmarsh.
Its about as ultra old Labour as you can get.
Its about as little metro Labour as you can get.
"If I were using that microscope right now on Roger, I still wouldn't be able to find an original thought in his head."
My friend and neighbour is making a film about the life of Eilleen Grey here in the South of France where she designed her famous house E-1027. To this end I have spent the evening going through with her as many samples of her and Corbusier's furniture as we could find.
I thought few things could be more tedious until i've just read what passes for an insult on here.
And as I have only ever voted for Labour in my life and still have a illogical preference for them over conservatives (in the hope they might be more influenced by Jon Cruddas and Maurice Glasman than Harriet Harman and Diane Abbott)... So be it
LibLabCon who cares
have you forgotten the threads on whether AV obtained a more democratic result than FPTP?
PS - I love you really.
The other bit from the piece was that interesting
According to Wheeler, UKIP has “pitifully few” election agents and needs money to spend on polling.
Farage blustering about Britishness and stating that UKIP were now the true national party with support South, North, East and West turns many Scots pretty monolithic I find.
Nigel's desperation for an MP or two might prompt some very silly moves come the GE but only at the expense of his total protest vote which is going to come up against the brick wall of FPTP anyway.
Alternatively
Looked at the alternatives and made their own decision 1143
Voted the same way as their parents & grandparents etc 1039
If people start thinking for themselves then the establishment parties have serious problems.
"That's a class post."
Thank you.
But maybe it's just coincidence that he only pulls up those who disagree with him politically
It's possible
I'd be happy to vote for Scottish independence, what's the big deal?
When the Eds are in government it will start to disintegrate.
Do you think the Rawmarsh result is anything other than worrying for Labour ?
What you need to do though is separate out Oil and Gas trade from the balance of trade figures.
2005 was the last year that Oil production was higher than domestic oil demand. In 2010, 14% or the UK's oil requirements needed to be imported. By 2015, this is due to rise to 35%.
With Gas, the crossover occurred a year earlier in 2004. Import dependency in 2010 was 41% forecast to rise to 45% in 2015.
The Balance of Trade figures are so sensitive to Oil and Gas trade that there can be no surplus without a significant change in the steep decline in output from the North Sea. DECC are currently forecasting flat output between now and 2015 (at 40 thousand tonnes of oil) with an upside of 50 thousand.
The BoE have let slip that oil output resulting from new investments is likely to impact on growth (and therefore BoT) as early as this year rather than in 2014 as previously believed.
I am looking closely at this to see where it might come from. There is only one active oilfield which is both new and increasing output, the Buzzard field, but it is both the largest discovery in the past 25 years and alone accounts for 20% of output. So critical is it to the national economy that the BBC run stories whenever there is a halt to production!
It may be that the Buzzard field upping its output will stabilise the overall decline: if Buzzard equals its January output (80% of its monthly peak last year) throughout 2013 it will account for 10 thousand tonnes or 25% of forecast for the year.
Even so new large fields need to come online for.the "best outcome estimates" of 50 thousand tonnes to be met. And for a balance of output to national demand current output would need to be doubled by 2015, which currently looks a lot more than just unlikely.
Anyway, I haven't finished my research so will keep your fires burning as I progress.
http://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/party-finance/party-finance-analysis/party-funding/party-finance-analysis-Q1-2013
Things didn't really kick off for UKIP until Eastleigh, which was late Feb, so the 2nd quarter numbers might look different.
I never heard back from you on my last offer of a bet.
You went "sharply easier" as they say on the trading floors of the City.
Anti farage posters
Wentworth, Berkshire that is not Wentworth, Rotherham.
Its not a brave new dawn of an imminent Labour golden age is it.
I do not agree with her politics, but hell would have frozen over before Annabel set foot in that police vehicle.
As for Ian Gray, well, that's another story.