Uruguay could have been in the mix were it not for Suarez's moment of pure idiocy and viciousness. He will probably get banned for the remainder of the tournament. Nasty little shit.
Leaving aside national bias, there is surely a case for WC Group D being one of the strongest groups in modern times. Am I just biased? Neither England nor Italy looked a bad team to me, given a more normal draw they both should have progressed.
Elsewhere in the tournament, Spain's group was very, very tricky. The difference is in Group D that all four teams were very decent. Australia not so much in Spain's group.
Leaving aside national bias, there is surely a case for WC Group D being one of the strongest groups in modern times. Am I just biased? Neither England nor Italy looked a bad team to me, given a more normal draw they both should have progressed.
Elsewhere in the tournament, Spain's group was very, very tricky. The difference is in Group D that all four teams were very decent. Australia not so much in Spain's group.
England were turgid, lacked imagination and can't pass ten yards properly. Costa Rica were crap today Uruguay are nasty thugs Italy faded after game one
It was a poor group and neither Uruguay or Costa Rica will feature in the Semis (or probably the quarters)
Costa Rica only needed a draw to win the group, they also didn't want to pick up any injuries or more than perhaps 1 or 2 yellow cards - they got a point and picked up 1 yellow, no injuries so far as I can tell.
If people cannot be bothered to make even the most basic security on their mobiles,then they deserve all they get. Calling it Hacking is too simplistic,it is just connecting in to mobiles with the default pin. Even government ministers," Fatty Prescott" left their mobiles unprotected. There should be no compensation for incompetence. It may be more complicated,if so apologies.
If people cannot be bothered to make even the most basic security on their mobiles,then they deserve all they get. Calling it Hacking is too simplistic,it is just connecting in to mobiles with the default pin. Even government ministers," Fatty Prescott" left their mobiles unprotected. There should be no compensation for incompetence. It may be more complicated,if so apologies.
I imagine that a lot will depend on Coulson himself and whether he feels he has scores to settle. I feel very sorry for him that he got caught up and taken over by such a culture.
As I understand it, he has become very impoverished by this, having to sell his house, take his kids out of private education, and put them in the public system.
That is the sort of thing that makes one angry.
Why ? The son of a b!tch f***ed up so many innocent people.
I imagine that a lot will depend on Coulson himself and whether he feels he has scores to settle. I feel very sorry for him that he got caught up and taken over by such a culture.
As I understand it, he has become very impoverished by this, having to sell his house, take his kids out of private education, and put them in the public system.
That is the sort of thing that makes one angry.
Why ? The son of a b!tch f***ed up so many innocent people.
Yeah, he ruined their millionaire lifestyles with his listening to messages activity
I imagine that a lot will depend on Coulson himself and whether he feels he has scores to settle. I feel very sorry for him that he got caught up and taken over by such a culture.
As I understand it, he has become very impoverished by this, having to sell his house, take his kids out of private education, and put them in the public system.
That is the sort of thing that makes one angry.
Why ? The son of a b!tch f***ed up so many innocent people.
The Daily Mail doesn't half report some real shit at times - "humiliating" is the last word I'd describe the English defeat at Headingley as... "gut wrenching", "heartbreaking" are a couple of adjectives they could have used but "humiliating" is a disgrace.
What price that Coulson won't necessarily be the main front page on all the papers now - Cameron needs to thank Suarez personally if so?
What will people be discussing tonight ?
Suarez, England, Wimbledon.
*Anecdote alert* Suarez is the main topic in the pub at the moment. I guess that if I bring up the phone hacking trial I will get some 'WTF are you going on about now?' looks
The Daily Mail doesn't half report some real shit at times - "humiliating" is the last word I'd describe the English defeat at Headingley as... "gut wrenching", "heartbreaking" are a couple of adjectives they could have used but "humiliating" is a disgrace.
I'd say that to say that was at least bordering on racist!
What price that Coulson won't necessarily be the main front page on all the papers now - Cameron needs to thank Suarez personally if so?
What will people be discussing tonight ?
Suarez, England, Wimbledon.
*Anecdote alert* Suarez is the main topic in the pub at the moment. I guess that if I bring up the phone hacking trial I will get some 'WTF are you going on about now?' looks
give it a go and see. I suspect you'll get glazed over eyes and the conversation will turn back to something more interesting.
Did you see the american who got stuck in the 32 ton vagina ?
The Daily Mail doesn't half report some real shit at times - "humiliating" is the last word I'd describe the English defeat at Headingley as... "gut wrenching", "heartbreaking" are a couple of adjectives they could have used but "humiliating" is a disgrace.
I'd say that to say that was at least bordering on racist!
If we'd have been knocked over before tea they could have pulled out the "humiliating" tag, but not with a very decent effort to save the game on the last day.
The Daily Mail doesn't half report some real shit at times - "humiliating" is the last word I'd describe the English defeat at Headingley as... "gut wrenching", "heartbreaking" are a couple of adjectives they could have used but "humiliating" is a disgrace.
I'd say that to say that was at least bordering on racist!
If we'd have been knocked over before tea they could have pulled out the "humiliating" tag, but not with a very decent effort to save the game on the last day.
Indeed, a very decent effort. Nail-biting. I really couldn't watch!
''Some nice dead-horse flogging over at the Grauniad:''
Talking of dead horse flogging at the Guardian, I've just read the 359th article on the subject of 'labour doesn;t understand the appeal of UKIP in our heartlands' that the paper has run since May.
What price that Coulson won't necessarily be the main front page on all the papers now - Cameron needs to thank Suarez personally if so?
What will people be discussing tonight ?
Suarez, England, Wimbledon.
*Anecdote alert* Suarez is the main topic in the pub at the moment. I guess that if I bring up the phone hacking trial I will get some 'WTF are you going on about now?' looks
give it a go and see. I suspect you'll get glazed over eyes and the conversation will turn back to something more interesting.
Did you see the american who got stuck in the 32 ton vagina ?
The last time I got told to STFU about politics was the Sunday of the Euro election results. Getting stuck in a large vagina statue is the sort of thing my drunken mates would have ended up in the papers for in our younger days.
Could Suarez be banned from the rest of the World Cup?
Donning my ref's cap, Andy, I should say not.
Unless the bite was severe enough to leave a clear impression, the evidence would be lacking. He did however clearly stick his head into the Italian and for that he can be punished by FIFA, retrospectively. I should think they will penalise him for violent conduct and leave it at that. I'm not sure what the tarif is for this World Cup - anything from a one to three match ban, I think.
More than that would be excessive unless there's clear evidence of biting, which I suspect there is not.
If people cannot be bothered to make even the most basic security on their mobiles,then they deserve all they get. Calling it Hacking is too simplistic,it is just connecting in to mobiles with the default pin. Even government ministers," Fatty Prescott" left their mobiles unprotected. There should be no compensation for incompetence. It may be more complicated,if so apologies.
That's a bit too blase IMO. If you don't lock your back door, do you deserve to be burgled? You might be blamed for taking risks, but it's still mainly the burglar that's at fault.
It is a bit like celebrating Mike Tyson's conviction whilst ignoring the aquittal against the "Head-tree Kennedy" who was - objectively - more culpable of the same and/or worse crime. If only we had a Bill-of-Rights under-pinned by a Rule-of-Law....
Mr Pubgoer, your comment reminds me that long, long ago in my student days one of the pharmaceutical papers published a slightly tongue in cheek article about trials of aphrodisiacs. A friend and I wrote in, offering to assist in any such trials. As I recall we got a somewhat frosty reply, to the effect that clinical trials were a serious matter.
Leaving aside national bias, there is surely a case for WC Group D being one of the strongest groups in modern times. Am I just biased? Neither England nor Italy looked a bad team to me, given a more normal draw they both should have progressed.
Elsewhere in the tournament, Spain's group was very, very tricky. The difference is in Group D that all four teams were very decent. Australia not so much in Spain's group.
It's good on paper, but when you watched the displays less so. Both England and Italy were very mediocre.
Play was continuing on the left wing when the incident happened round about the penalty spot. The Assistant Referee was on the right wing so the the Referee was correctly covering play towards the left. He would at best have had a peripheral view of the incident.
The Assistant would have had a clearer view and would have seen the contact and the two players go down. In theory he could have alerted the referee and indicated a penalty, but that's a big call and AR's are very reluctant to intervene in that way. He would have been some forty yards away and at that distance it's hard to be sure unless the offence is very clear.
"She concluded by renewing a call to change the law to hand the security services more powers to scrutinise online communication - a bid that has previously been blocked by the Liberal Democrats."
Re: Andy Coulson: In the immortal words of Richard Nabavi - "non issue" Where is tim ?
why's it an issue ? In the real world nobody cares.
Your Prime Minister employed a criminal and brought him into No.10.
Leaving aside the Blair/Iraq blood shed, Labour's last PM Brown had on the Govt payroll McBride, who made up dirty lies about people to smear their reputation.
In the immortal words of Richard Nabavi - "non issue"
Where is tim ?
why's it an issue ? In the real world nobody cares.
Your Prime Minister employed a criminal and brought him into No.10.
Of course the Prime Minister didn't know at the time that Coulson was a criminal...
So why did he apologise ?
He thought it would be a good idea. Would sound good. Whether or not he meant what he said, or what his sound-bite writer wrote is another matter entirely.
In the immortal words of Richard Nabavi - "non issue"
Where is tim ?
why's it an issue ? In the real world nobody cares.
Your Prime Minister employed a criminal and brought him into No.10.
Nobody cares,even the Costa Rica draw is more interesting. Mrs Jayfdee has never heard of AC,and is not remotely interested in phone hacking. The Westminster crowd will get agitated about it,but no-one else.
In the immortal words of Richard Nabavi - "non issue"
Where is tim ?
why's it an issue ? In the real world nobody cares.
Your Prime Minister employed a criminal and brought him into No.10.
Of course the Prime Minister didn't know at the time that Coulson was a criminal...
But the crimes had already been commited ? Was any sort of due diligence conducted ? After all hacking was not exactly unknown at the time of appointment.
"She concluded by renewing a call to change the law to hand the security services more powers to scrutinise online communication - a bid that has previously been blocked by the Liberal Democrats."
"She concluded by renewing a call to change the law to hand the security services more powers to scrutinise online communication - a bid that has previously been blocked by the Liberal Democrats."
Britain's surveillance agency GCHQ, with aid from the US National Security Agency, intercepted and stored the webcam images of millions of internet users not suspected of wrongdoing, secret documents reveal.
GCHQ files dating between 2008 and 2010 explicitly state that a surveillance program codenamed Optic Nerve collected still images of Yahoo webcam chats in bulk and saved them to agency databases, regardless of whether individual users were an intelligence target or not.
"There is no programme of mass surveillance and there is no surveillance state,"
Whatever you say, Theresa, whatever you say. And there's no problem with passport delays either, right?
In the immortal words of Richard Nabavi - "non issue"
Where is tim ?
why's it an issue ? In the real world nobody cares.
Your Prime Minister employed a criminal and brought him into No.10.
Of course the Prime Minister didn't know at the time that Coulson was a criminal...
But the crimes had already been commited ? Was any sort of due diligence conducted ? After all hacking was not exactly unknown at the time of appointment.
Or, did the Tories want to employ an hacker ?
Don't ask me. I couldn't give a monkey's about any of this rubbish.
If it was up to me Coulson would still be in Downing St and Hacked Off would be told to p*ss off.
In the immortal words of Richard Nabavi - "non issue"
Where is tim ?
why's it an issue ? In the real world nobody cares.
Your Prime Minister employed a criminal and brought him into No.10.
Of course the Prime Minister didn't know at the time that Coulson was a criminal...
But the crimes had already been commited ? Was any sort of due diligence conducted ? After all hacking was not exactly unknown at the time of appointment.
Or, did the Tories want to employ an hacker ?
Don't ask me. I couldn't give a monkey's about any of this rubbish.
If it was up to me Coulson would still be in Downing St and Hacked Off would be told to p*ss off.
I do not want a government that I support knowingly employing criminals or condoning their activities and frankly neither should you.
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Take my mind off the cricket..... gawd I'm glad I made £130 and now behind the boys, 5 to go...
Sri Lanka win by 100 runs
Eng 249-9 (2 balls left)
Eranga pitches up, Anderson gets a solid bat behind it. Two balls left!
Jonathan Agnew, BBC Test Match Special
"Sri Lanka have got to aim for the stumps."
Final profit on the match £41.77.
Fancied a bit of Parma Ham?
Elsewhere in the tournament, Spain's group was very, very tricky. The difference is in Group D that all four teams were very decent. Australia not so much in Spain's group.
Costa Rica were crap today
Uruguay are nasty thugs
Italy faded after game one
It was a poor group and neither Uruguay or Costa Rica will feature in the Semis (or probably the quarters)
Job done.
Even government ministers," Fatty Prescott" left their mobiles unprotected.
There should be no compensation for incompetence.
It may be more complicated,if so apologies.
In the immortal words of Richard Nabavi - "non issue"
Where is tim ?
Highlights of the cricket now on C5
Looking bad...
Not great for Uruguay's chances too if he is out the tourney !
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jun/24/scotland-yard-want-interview-rupert-murdoch-phone-hacking
I suppose they didn't want to waste the article they'd prepared in anticipation of things turning out differently.
What price that Coulson won't necessarily be the main front page on all the papers now - Cameron needs to thank Suarez personally if so?
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_dente
Suarez, England, Wimbledon.
I guess that if I bring up the phone hacking trial I will get some 'WTF are you going on about now?' looks
Did you see the american who got stuck in the 32 ton vagina ?
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/23/us-student-rescued-giant-vagina-sculpture-germany
Talking of dead horse flogging at the Guardian, I've just read the 359th article on the subject of 'labour doesn;t understand the appeal of UKIP in our heartlands' that the paper has run since May.
Is it really that big a deal?
Donning my ref's cap, Andy, I should say not.
Unless the bite was severe enough to leave a clear impression, the evidence would be lacking. He did however clearly stick his head into the Italian and for that he can be punished by FIFA, retrospectively. I should think they will penalise him for violent conduct and leave it at that. I'm not sure what the tarif is for this World Cup - anything from a one to three match ban, I think.
More than that would be excessive unless there's clear evidence of biting, which I suspect there is not.
It makes little difference because most people have it factored in already, no matter the outcome of the trial.
Your (former) Prime Minister is Tony Blair.
I think we win.
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It is a bit like celebrating Mike Tyson's conviction whilst ignoring the aquittal against the "Head-tree Kennedy" who was - objectively - more culpable of the same and/or worse crime. If only we had a Bill-of-Rights under-pinned by a Rule-of-Law....
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'Your Prime Minister employed a criminal and brought him into No.10.'
What had he been convicted of before being employed by No 10 ?
your prime minister was a criminal and invaded a country illegally.
shall we mention in passing the 5 Labour MPs convicted of theft and sent to jail and for which Labour never apologised ?
Shall we mention Ed posing with a "criminal" paper and then realising he'd goofed ?
Did Tessa Jowell resign when her husband had a few issues in Italy ......
with Berlusconi who Tony used to borrow a villa from ?
Really I could laugh at your daftness all night.
Sad, when you think about it!
Play was continuing on the left wing when the incident happened round about the penalty spot. The Assistant Referee was on the right wing so the the Referee was correctly covering play towards the left. He would at best have had a peripheral view of the incident.
The Assistant would have had a clearer view and would have seen the contact and the two players go down. In theory he could have alerted the referee and indicated a penalty, but that's a big call and AR's are very reluctant to intervene in that way. He would have been some forty yards away and at that distance it's hard to be sure unless the offence is very clear.
"She concluded by renewing a call to change the law to hand the security services more powers to scrutinise online communication - a bid that has previously been blocked by the Liberal Democrats."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28006739
Or, did the Tories want to employ an hacker ?
GCHQ files dating between 2008 and 2010 explicitly state that a surveillance program codenamed Optic Nerve collected still images of Yahoo webcam chats in bulk and saved them to agency databases, regardless of whether individual users were an intelligence target or not.
"There is no programme of mass surveillance and there is no surveillance state,"
Whatever you say, Theresa, whatever you say. And there's no problem with passport delays either, right?
Not a clue.
If it was up to me Coulson would still be in Downing St and Hacked Off would be told to p*ss off.
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