Merke says Council President could go to an outsider, from a non-Euro country such as Denmark. I can think of another non-Euro country such as Denmark which happens to be in need of a lollipop.
But they really need to send Hague or somebody serious to do it. If Cameron didn't trust Lansley with a meaningful job it's hard to believe the other 27 PMs are going to.
There's no way the Council President would go to a rightwinger if / when Juncker becomes Commission President. It would have to go to a socialist. Luckily the unpopular PM of Denmark is a...
Merke says Council President could go to an outsider, from a non-Euro country such as Denmark. I can think of another non-Euro country such as Denmark which happens to be in need of a lollipop.
But they really need to send Hague or somebody serious to do it. If Cameron didn't trust Lansley with a meaningful job it's hard to believe the other 27 PMs are going to.
There's no way the Council President would go to a rightwinger if / when Juncker becomes Commission President. It would have to go to a socialist. Luckily the unpopular PM of Denmark is a...
Barroso and HvR were both conservatives. Socialists got the presidency of the parliament, which it sounds like they'll get again.
Merke says Council President could go to an outsider, from a non-Euro country such as Denmark. I can think of another non-Euro country such as Denmark which happens to be in need of a lollipop.
But they really need to send Hague or somebody serious to do it. If Cameron didn't trust Lansley with a meaningful job it's hard to believe the other 27 PMs are going to.
There's no way the Council President would go to a rightwinger if / when Juncker becomes Commission President. It would have to go to a socialist. Luckily the unpopular PM of Denmark is a...
Barroso and HvR were both conservatives. Socialists got the presidency of the parliament, which it sounds like they'll get again.
Didn't they lose the parliamentary election?
It's ridiculous that the governance of this continent, from which half our laws come from, is just about people taking turns for jobs. Either elect the person, or appoint them on a merit basis.
Well once again I join the ranks of the unemployed having been made redundant at least I get a decent pay off and hopefully the market is sufficiently buoyant to locate alternate employment rapidly. Bit of a buggeration though.
"At risk" myself at the moment, so I know how you feel!
Good luck!
Eek, I'd have been fine if I'd have been willing to relocate to Newcastle but I wasn't.
I have to relocate to Frankfurt!!
If I spoke German I'd consider it. There are worse places to end up.
Merke says Council President could go to an outsider, from a non-Euro country such as Denmark. I can think of another non-Euro country such as Denmark which happens to be in need of a lollipop.
But they really need to send Hague or somebody serious to do it. If Cameron didn't trust Lansley with a meaningful job it's hard to believe the other 27 PMs are going to.
There's no way the Council President would go to a rightwinger if / when Juncker becomes Commission President. It would have to go to a socialist. Luckily the unpopular PM of Denmark is a...
Barroso and HvR were both conservatives. Socialists got the presidency of the parliament, which it sounds like they'll get again.
If Juncker gets the Commission job, it would be a massive blow for Cameron. The only way it could be softened to a serious degree is for the UK to get the Council position. If that went to a europhile socialist like the Danish PM, it would be full scale surrender on all fronts.
The only thing that puts our UNSC seat in danger in the short term is idiots like him saying we'd have to give it up. The only thing in danger here is his inflated salary and generous pension.
Mr. Socrates, whilst I concur it would be bad, can it be considered a surrender?
The inherent flaw of a federation of 27 nation-states is that at any given time a large minority are not getting what they want. We see this at its most serious with the eurozone. It's why the EU (and especially the single currency) are plain broken.
Well once again I join the ranks of the unemployed having been made redundant at least I get a decent pay off and hopefully the market is sufficiently buoyant to locate alternate employment rapidly. Bit of a buggeration though.
Sorry to hear that. Hope you find something very soon!
Merke says Council President could go to an outsider, from a non-Euro country such as Denmark. I can think of another non-Euro country such as Denmark which happens to be in need of a lollipop.
But they really need to send Hague or somebody serious to do it. If Cameron didn't trust Lansley with a meaningful job it's hard to believe the other 27 PMs are going to.
There's no way the Council President would go to a rightwinger if / when Juncker becomes Commission President. It would have to go to a socialist. Luckily the unpopular PM of Denmark is a...
Barroso and HvR were both conservatives. Socialists got the presidency of the parliament, which it sounds like they'll get again.
Didn't they lose the parliamentary election?
It's ridiculous that the governance of this continent, from which half our laws come from, is just about people taking turns for jobs. Either elect the person, or appoint them on a merit basis.
I agree, the election was a much better way to pick the Commission president than the previous member-state-haggle-backed buggin's turn system. That said, although the socialists lost the election, the conservatives didn't get a majority, so the socialists still get something. The original plan was for a Cameron-Clegg-style deputy, but Merkel doesn't want to appoint Schulz to her Commission slot, so he can't take that job unless some other country gives him their slot.
Mr. K, I find the UKIP number somewhat difficult to believe, to be honest. I was going to write the same about the Lib Dems, but it's in line with other pollsters.
Hi Morris, I think the figure for UKIP is great but I have to agree in this instance with OGH that TNS-BMRB has exaggerated the UKIP percentage a wee bit. Not by much, mind.
Mr. Socrates, whilst I concur it would be bad, can it be considered a surrender?
The inherent flaw of a federation of 27 nation-states is that at any given time a large minority are not getting what they want. We see this at its most serious with the eurozone. It's why the EU (and especially the single currency) are plain broken.
28 states, Mr Dancer. Croatia joined a few weeks ago.
Mr. Socrates, whilst I concur it would be bad, can it be considered a surrender?
The inherent flaw of a federation of 27 nation-states is that at any given time a large minority are not getting what they want. We see this at its most serious with the eurozone. It's why the EU (and especially the single currency) are plain broken.
Full scale collapse then. He would have lost the Commission to the one person we didn't want to get, and then be getting another Europhile in as President, and a socialist to boot. Just an epic disaster.
I still think a compromise candidate for the Commission will be reached, but the compromise would likely be a Eurofederalist that's not Juncker, so heavily weighted against us. At this point, Juncker would just be disastrous.
I wish more computer games came with German translations. Happens much less often these days. How else are young fellows meant to learn a Sturmgewehr is an assault rifle (from Fear Effect) or Heiligkeit means holiness, or Zelt is a tent (Shadow Hearts: Covenant)?
Yeah but you'd never learn the important stuff from such games like " Meine Betelmaus hat Verstopfung" which means "my wombat is constipated". A phrase of infinite utility in rural New South Wales amongst the Tuetonic vetenerian set.
That goes for me too Jim. You would not have liked Newcastle; a completely different world from London. I remember the place with something akin to horror as I was evacuated (in WW2) to Durham and then to a village on the outskirts of Newcastle.
Mind you it must have changed in 70 odd years. LOL
The original plan was for a Cameron-Clegg-style deputy, but Merkel doesn't want to appoint Schulz to her Commission slot, so he can't take that job unless some other country gives him their slot.
There was no plan to do this outside the heads of the MEPs who cant seem to udnerstand that they have zero democratic legitimacy.
Merke says Council President could go to an outsider, from a non-Euro country such as Denmark. I can think of another non-Euro country such as Denmark which happens to be in need of a lollipop.
But they really need to send Hague or somebody serious to do it. If Cameron didn't trust Lansley with a meaningful job it's hard to believe the other 27 PMs are going to.
There's no way the Council President would go to a rightwinger if / when Juncker becomes Commission President. It would have to go to a socialist. Luckily the unpopular PM of Denmark is a...
Barroso and HvR were both conservatives. Socialists got the presidency of the parliament, which it sounds like they'll get again.
If Juncker gets the Commission job, it would be a massive blow for Cameron. The only way it could be softened to a serious degree is for the UK to get the Council position. If that went to a europhile socialist like the Danish PM, it would be full scale surrender on all fronts.
One of the weird gymnastics Cameron has ended up performing this time has been suggesting a Europhile socialist Kinnock relative as the kind of compromise candidate Britain wants. If she'd run and won the election while Juncker had stayed out of the race, Cameron would now be backing Juncker (conservative, deal-maker, ex-PM of a financial centre) as the UK-friendly compromise candidate, while Thorning-Schmidt would be the menace who had to be stopped at all costs.
If she'd run and won the election while Juncker had stayed out of the race, Cameron would now be backing Juncker (conservative, deal-maker, ex-PM of a financial centre) as the UK-friendly compromise candidate, while Thorning-Schmidt would be the menace who had to be stopped at all costs.
I think that's unfair - Juncker is orders of magnitude worse than almost any other candidate mentioned for the role.
Merke says Council President could go to an outsider, from a non-Euro country such as Denmark. I can think of another non-Euro country such as Denmark which happens to be in need of a lollipop.
But they really need to send Hague or somebody serious to do it. If Cameron didn't trust Lansley with a meaningful job it's hard to believe the other 27 PMs are going to.
There's no way the Council President would go to a rightwinger if / when Juncker becomes Commission President. It would have to go to a socialist. Luckily the unpopular PM of Denmark is a...
Barroso and HvR were both conservatives. Socialists got the presidency of the parliament, which it sounds like they'll get again.
Didn't they lose the parliamentary election?
It's ridiculous that the governance of this continent, from which half our laws come from, is just about people taking turns for jobs. Either elect the person, or appoint them on a merit basis.
I agree, the election was a much better way to pick the Commission president than the previous member-state-haggle-backed buggin's turn system. That said, although the socialists lost the election, the conservatives didn't get a majority, so the socialists still get something. The original plan was for a Cameron-Clegg-style deputy, but Merkel doesn't want to appoint Schulz to her Commission slot, so he can't take that job unless some other country gives him their slot.
The whole system is clearly a mess, but clearly it can't be improved because everyone understandably wants their own nation represented. Ultimately what this comes down to is that people are patriots of their own countries first, and don't really identify with being European.
Merke says Council President could go to an outsider, from a non-Euro country such as Denmark. I can think of another non-Euro country such as Denmark which happens to be in need of a lollipop.
But they really need to send Hague or somebody serious to do it. If Cameron didn't trust Lansley with a meaningful job it's hard to believe the other 27 PMs are going to.
There's no way the Council President would go to a rightwinger if / when Juncker becomes Commission President. It would have to go to a socialist. Luckily the unpopular PM of Denmark is a...
Barroso and HvR were both conservatives. Socialists got the presidency of the parliament, which it sounds like they'll get again.
Didn't they lose the parliamentary election?
It's ridiculous that the governance of this continent, from which half our laws come from, is just about people taking turns for jobs. Either elect the person, or appoint them on a merit basis.
I agree, the election was a much better way to pick the Commission president than the previous member-state-haggle-backed buggin's turn system. That said, although the socialists lost the election, the conservatives didn't get a majority, so the socialists still get something. The original plan was for a Cameron-Clegg-style deputy, but Merkel doesn't want to appoint Schulz to her Commission slot, so he can't take that job unless some other country gives him their slot.
The whole system is clearly a mess, but clearly it can't be improved because everyone understandably wants their own nation represented. Ultimately what this comes down to is that people are patriots of their own countries first, and don't really identify with being European.
That's partly true of the heads of government but it doesn't match how the voters voted. Juncker probably got a decent home-state boost (as happens in small states in the US) but Schulz didn't particularly shine in Germany. And Merkel stopping the guy from her own country being deputy because he's from the wrong party doesn't fit that narrative either.
Does any one know of an (ex) Labour politician with sufficient weight to be President of the European Council?
How would a certain Tony Blair go down?
That sounds like a proposal that would create a wide consensus among all member states and institutions and unite voters of all political persuasions in agreement with each other.
Merke says Council President could go to an outsider, from a non-Euro country such as Denmark. I can think of another non-Euro country such as Denmark which happens to be in need of a lollipop.
But they really need to send Hague or somebody serious to do it. If Cameron didn't trust Lansley with a meaningful job it's hard to believe the other 27 PMs are going to.
There's no way the Council President would go to a rightwinger if / when Juncker becomes Commission President. It would have to go to a socialist. Luckily the unpopular PM of Denmark is a...
Barroso and HvR were both conservatives. Socialists got the presidency of the parliament, which it sounds like they'll get again.
Didn't they lose the parliamentary election?
It's ridiculous that the governance of this continent, from which half our laws come from, is just about people taking turns for jobs. Either elect the person, or appoint them on a merit basis.
I agree, the election was a much better way to pick the Commission president than the previous member-state-haggle-backed buggin's turn system. That said, although the socialists lost the election, the conservatives didn't get a majority, so the socialists still get something. The original plan was for a Cameron-Clegg-style deputy, but Merkel doesn't want to appoint Schulz to her Commission slot, so he can't take that job unless some other country gives him their slot.
The whole system is clearly a mess, but clearly it can't be improved because everyone understandably wants their own nation represented. Ultimately what this comes down to is that people are patriots of their own countries first, and don't really identify with being European.
That's partly true of the heads of government but it doesn't match how the voters voted. Juncker probably got a decent home-state boost (as happens in small states in the US) but Schulz didn't particularly shine in Germany. And Merkel stopping the guy from her own country being deputy because he's from the wrong party doesn't fit that narrative either.
It's a nonsense to suggest that the election was conducted on this basis anywhere. 9 out of 10 Europeans couldn't name Juncker in a recent opinion poll after the election. In only one member state (Luxembourg) could more than 25% of respondents name any of the candidates of the various blocs in the European Parliaments.
Mr. Socrates, whilst I concur it would be bad, can it be considered a surrender?
The inherent flaw of a federation of 27 nation-states is that at any given time a large minority are not getting what they want. We see this at its most serious with the eurozone. It's why the EU (and especially the single currency) are plain broken.
Full scale collapse then. He would have lost the Commission to the one person we didn't want to get, and then be getting another Europhile in as President, and a socialist to boot. Just an epic disaster.
I still think a compromise candidate for the Commission will be reached, but the compromise would likely be a Eurofederalist that's not Juncker, so heavily weighted against us. At this point, Juncker would just be disastrous.
Junker is awful. That's why he should get the job.
This is the real story today, the growing economy is not seeing a growth in tax receipts, so no wonder Avery wants to bury us in detail.
Importing millions of extra people isn't "growth" or "recovery".
And if the bulk of those extra millions are low-paid then it obviously won't improve the national finances at all. In fact it will make it worse.
And if all the extra hospitals, schools, houses, roads, prisons etc needed to maintain the same level of infrastructure were being built for all these extra millions of people then the effect on the national finances would be much worse so a large part of the worsening situation is disguised inside the overloading of the existing infrastructure.
The people who benefit are people who employ large quantities of low-paid workers as they are effectively off-loading their wage bill onto the taxpayers. This is just another example of privatizing profits while socializing costs which has become the dominant driver of the economy since the political class were bought.
Wouldn't Michael Portillo make a rather good candidate from Britain for one of the top EU jobs? Suitably Eurosceptic yet from an impeccable European background, heavyweight and his own man. I'm surprised his name hasn't been floated before.
Wouldn't Michael Portillo make a rather good candidate from Britain for one of the top EU jobs? Suitably Eurosceptic yet from an impeccable European background, heavyweight and his own man. I'm surprised his name hasn't been floated before.
He's utterly detested by all wings of the Tory party.
As someone who was active in the Kensington Tory association put it to me years ago.
"There are two types of people in the world, those who hate Michael Portillo and those yet to meet him"
Wouldn't Michael Portillo make a rather good candidate from Britain for one of the top EU jobs? Suitably Eurosceptic yet from an impeccable European background, heavyweight and his own man. I'm surprised his name hasn't been floated before.
He's utterly detested by all wings of the Tory party.
As someone who was active in Kensington Tory party put it to me years ago.
"There are two types of people in the world, those who hate Michael Portillo and those yet to meet him"
That's a plus. By sending him to Brussels, he becomes their problem.
Wouldn't Michael Portillo make a rather good candidate from Britain for one of the top EU jobs? Suitably Eurosceptic yet from an impeccable European background, heavyweight and his own man. I'm surprised his name hasn't been floated before.
He's utterly detested by all wings of the Tory party.
As someone who was active in Kensington Tory party put it to me years ago.
"There are two types of people in the world, those who hate Michael Portillo and those yet to meet him"
That's a plus. By sending him to Brussels, he becomes their problem.
He would become our problem.
It would be the worst appointment since that South African chap was asked to sign at Nelson Mandela's funeral.
Wouldn't Michael Portillo make a rather good candidate from Britain for one of the top EU jobs? Suitably Eurosceptic yet from an impeccable European background, heavyweight and his own man. I'm surprised his name hasn't been floated before.
He's utterly detested by all wings of the Tory party.
As someone who was active in Kensington Tory party put it to me years ago.
"There are two types of people in the world, those who hate Michael Portillo and those yet to meet him"
That's a plus. By sending him to Brussels, he becomes their problem.
He would become our problem.
It would be the worst appointment since that South African chap was asked to sign at Nelson Mandela's funeral.
I don't think he could restrict himself to the London-Brussels train
The whole system is clearly a mess, but clearly it can't be improved because everyone understandably wants their own nation represented. Ultimately what this comes down to is that people are patriots of their own countries first, and don't really identify with being European.
Not the usual criticism of European Commissioners, especially from a Eurosceptic like your good self.Isn't your usual assertion that they go native and sell out the home country?
Certainly in lobbying Commissioners myself, it's not struck me that they feel any particular need to follow home country policy. Nor they should.
It's half time, Costa Rica lead 1-0 and Stan James are STILL offering 1/10 on England going out in the groups! That was generous pre-match even using a treble of their own odds on the three results needed!
It's half time, Costa Rica lead 1-0 and Stan James are STILL offering 1/10 on England going out in the groups! That was generous pre-match even using a treble of their own odds on the three results needed!
Barred from Stan James.
This sort of offer is precisely why people get banned too.
Roy Hodgson will remain as England manager until 2016. says Football Association chairman Greg Dyke - BBC Sport ticker.
Good day to bury bad news.
Not too late to correct a terrible mistake and appoint Harry, enough with these managers so strongly influenced by Italian football, so alien to our mentality and playing style.
Phew - means we can enjoy our 3rd defeat on Tues when it's a dead rubber.
Indeed - we can revel in that defeat knowing that it condemns one of Italy or Uruguay to ignominous exit too, as well as meaning that that English favourite the 'underdog' wins the group.
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They like their extra-strong mints in the Ridings.
But
@MSmithsonPB: On TNS-BMRB 23% UKIP share: 3 weeks before May 22 elections the firm had UKIP on 37% for the Euros - 10% more than they ended up getting
Edited extra bit: for the avoidance of doubt, I am not the President of Zimbabwe.
It's ridiculous that the governance of this continent, from which half our laws come from, is just about people taking turns for jobs. Either elect the person, or appoint them on a merit basis.
Why wouldn't you go to Newcastle?
Obviously there is a bit of variation in the samples...
http://www.populus.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Online_VI_20-06-2014_BPC.pdf
Con 475
Lab 508
LD 112
UKIP 307
Fudging others to 8% (Populus is 9%, TNS is 7%)
Gives
31 (+2)
33 (-2)
7 (-1)
20 (-3)
Using the Populus tables.
FWIW I don't think either TNS or Populus is correct for UKIP. 16% is my guess right now.
http://www.euractiv.com/sections/uk-europe/brexit-could-cost-uk-its-un-security-council-seat-warns-leading-tory-302920
The only thing that puts our UNSC seat in danger in the short term is idiots like him saying we'd have to give it up. The only thing in danger here is his inflated salary and generous pension.
The inherent flaw of a federation of 27 nation-states is that at any given time a large minority are not getting what they want. We see this at its most serious with the eurozone. It's why the EU (and especially the single currency) are plain broken.
Sri Lanka are 222/5 and the draw is 3.75 on Betfair.
I've got my red there.
DYOR.
I still think a compromise candidate for the Commission will be reached, but the compromise would likely be a Eurofederalist that's not Juncker, so heavily weighted against us. At this point, Juncker would just be disastrous.
Mind you it must have changed in 70 odd years. LOL
I wish to also clarify that I am not Chris Bryant either.
In seriousness, I do think playing games in other languages can be educational.
How would a certain Tony Blair go down?
Watch Ballance and Root smash Lara's test best.
And if the bulk of those extra millions are low-paid then it obviously won't improve the national finances at all. In fact it will make it worse.
And if all the extra hospitals, schools, houses, roads, prisons etc needed to maintain the same level of infrastructure were being built for all these extra millions of people then the effect on the national finances would be much worse so a large part of the worsening situation is disguised inside the overloading of the existing infrastructure.
The people who benefit are people who employ large quantities of low-paid workers as they are effectively off-loading their wage bill onto the taxpayers. This is just another example of privatizing profits while socializing costs which has become the dominant driver of the economy since the political class were bought.
Laid England at 1.45 for £15 latest move:
Eng +.51
Sri Lanka +48.45
Draw -16.45 now.
As someone who was active in the Kensington Tory association put it to me years ago.
"There are two types of people in the world, those who hate Michael Portillo and those yet to meet him"
It would be the worst appointment since that South African chap was asked to sign at Nelson Mandela's funeral.
Had to keep digging on the way down !
Certainly in lobbying Commissioners myself, it's not struck me that they feel any particular need to follow home country policy. Nor they should.
Good luck with the job-hunt, ToryJim.
Good day to bury bad news.
Mind you I'm also a Mary man so my tastes may not be representative.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sportsman's+double
http://tinyurl.com/mvdy3zq
Cash the feck out.
Oswald Moseley - step-mother, two daughters...(wife and her sister).
Right now I'd recommend lay England at 1.39. Or back Lanka at 6.4.
Must be about 70% of matches where the outsider has scored first.
Costa Rica ought to be 2 up.
This sort of offer is precisely why people get banned too.