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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 50,007
    Now I know you PBers all like "Three Lions", but this is still my favourite Ingerland song - from 24 years ago, coinciding with our best performance since '66 :)

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re4aDJL3heA
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 115,415
    From the Sunday Times

    NICK CLEGG will seek to heal the wounds of the Liberal Democrats’ disastrous election results last month by handing peerages to key figures who lost their seats.

    He is thought to be lining up Sir Graham Watson, the former MEP for South West England, for a peerage along with senior councillors such as Richard Kemp, the former leader of Liverpool council.

    The peerages are expected to be awarded in next year's dissolution honours list which will mark the end of the parliament. Clegg is also expected to hand peerages to departing MPs including Sir Menzies Campbell, Sir Alan Beith, Sir Malcolm Bruce and Don Foster.
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    RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    edited June 2014
    more alleged ISIS atrocities

    twitter.com/p_vanostaeyen/status/477919783640662016/photo/1
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 115,415
    edited June 2014
    Sam Freedman ‏@Samfr 7m

    UKIP must be really confused by Raheem Sterling. An immigrant but named after the pound...
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    shadsyshadsy Posts: 289
    It's rather unlikely I can be a better judge than the worldwide betting markets on something like this, but Italy at 3.45 looks much too big.
    I'm on, anyway. Plus had a nibble on 0-3.
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    From the Sunday Times

    NICK CLEGG will seek to heal the wounds of the Liberal Democrats’ disastrous election results last month by handing peerages to key figures who lost their seats.

    He is thought to be lining up Sir Graham Watson, the former MEP for South West England, for a peerage along with senior councillors such as Richard Kemp, the former leader of Liverpool council.

    The peerages are expected to be awarded in next year's dissolution honours list which will mark the end of the parliament. Clegg is also expected to hand peerages to departing MPs including Sir Menzies Campbell, Sir Alan Beith, Sir Malcolm Bruce and Don Foster.

    Blimey - just how many gongs are in his gift? Don't give up yet Mike.
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    ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,105

    From the Sunday Times

    NICK CLEGG will seek to heal the wounds of the Liberal Democrats’ disastrous election results last month by handing peerages to key figures who lost their seats.

    He is thought to be lining up Sir Graham Watson, the former MEP for South West England, for a peerage along with senior councillors such as Richard Kemp, the former leader of Liverpool council.

    The peerages are expected to be awarded in next year's dissolution honours list which will mark the end of the parliament. Clegg is also expected to hand peerages to departing MPs including Sir Menzies Campbell, Sir Alan Beith, Sir Malcolm Bruce and Don Foster.

    Blimey - just how many gongs are in his gift? Don't give up yet Mike.
    As long as he doesn't go all Lloyd George ;)
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    Scrapheap_as_wasScrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,062

    Now I know you PBers all like "Three Lions", but this is still my favourite Ingerland song - from 24 years ago, coinciding with our best performance since '66 :)

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re4aDJL3heA

    New order = legends.

    Time for everyone to show true faith and Italy the run round and round.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 115,415

    Now I know you PBers all like "Three Lions", but this is still my favourite Ingerland song - from 24 years ago, coinciding with our best performance since '66 :)

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re4aDJL3heA

    New order = legends.

    Time for everyone to show true faith and Italy the run round and round.
    I'm disappointed you didn't put in a reference to a Bizarre Love Triangle.
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    dodradedodrade Posts: 595
    Don't know if any of you can get RTE, but Giles and Dunphy are scathing of England already, Rooney unfufilled potential, Jagielka not international class and Gerrard over the hill.
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    Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411
    Italy - remember World War II 1943! Run away run away run away!
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    I hope all those Scot Nats are supporting England tonight.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 115,415

    From the Sunday Times

    NICK CLEGG will seek to heal the wounds of the Liberal Democrats’ disastrous election results last month by handing peerages to key figures who lost their seats.

    He is thought to be lining up Sir Graham Watson, the former MEP for South West England, for a peerage along with senior councillors such as Richard Kemp, the former leader of Liverpool council.

    The peerages are expected to be awarded in next year's dissolution honours list which will mark the end of the parliament. Clegg is also expected to hand peerages to departing MPs including Sir Menzies Campbell, Sir Alan Beith, Sir Malcolm Bruce and Don Foster.

    Blimey - just how many gongs are in his gift? Don't give up yet Mike.
    Indeed, I'm pressing Dave to give JohnO a peerage as well.
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited June 2014
    Sunil: are you a Hindi speaker? There's someone on VoteUK who's looking for assistance:

    http://vote-2012.proboards.com/thread/4372/modern-languages?page=1
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    oldnatoldnat Posts: 136
    AndyJS

    "I hope all those Scot Nats are supporting England tonight."

    Why? Have you already given up hope of Lab, LD, Con & "Couldnae gie a damn" supporters from Scotland supporting England?

    I'll support a fellow member of the Union tonight. Whether that turns out to be England or Italy will depend on who plays the better football.
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    Edin_RokzEdin_Rokz Posts: 516

    An overwhelming majority of young voters wants Britain to maintain its tradition of offering sanctuary for refugees, according to a poll that challenges the political belief that an anti-asylum ticket will woo the electorate.

    Eight out of 10 people who will be eligible to vote for the first time next May said they were proud of Britain's legacy of protecting people fleeing violence, war and persecution, while three-quarters urged the government to maintain the UK's reputation for offering a haven for people, particularly children.

    http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jun/14/yougov-first-time-voters-refugees?CMP=twt_fd

    And how are you actually going to get them out to vote?

    I've been watching school kids and youngsters recently, purely watching interactions between them. The major changes that I've noticed is that there are more connections between the sexes that are not of a sexual nature (no, I am not stupid enough to think that there is no "hanky panky" going on, I can remember my own hormones reactions at their age and that will not have changed) but that colour/religion/sex is not a major factor in their relationships.

    Technology has brought about major cultural changes in our youngsters and I'm really not sure that our political elite in their Westminster/Holyrood/Cardiff/Brussels-Strasbourg/Washington/Moscow etc. bubbles have realised it. When these youngsters get older and take over the reins of power, then I think there will be changes that will be totally out our wildest dreams.
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    SocratesSocrates Posts: 10,322

    From the Sunday Times

    NICK CLEGG will seek to heal the wounds of the Liberal Democrats’ disastrous election results last month by handing peerages to key figures who lost their seats.

    He is thought to be lining up Sir Graham Watson, the former MEP for South West England, for a peerage along with senior councillors such as Richard Kemp, the former leader of Liverpool council.

    The peerages are expected to be awarded in next year's dissolution honours list which will mark the end of the parliament. Clegg is also expected to hand peerages to departing MPs including Sir Menzies Campbell, Sir Alan Beith, Sir Malcolm Bruce and Don Foster.

    Blimey - just how many gongs are in his gift? Don't give up yet Mike.
    Didn't the Coalition agreement require them to appoint Lords in proportion to what parties achieved at the last election?

    I'm still awaiting the two dozen that UKIP are due. What's Cameron doing there?
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 50,007
    edited June 2014

    Now I know you PBers all like "Three Lions", but this is still my favourite Ingerland song - from 24 years ago, coinciding with our best performance since '66 :)

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re4aDJL3heA

    New order = legends.

    Time for everyone to show true faith and Italy the run round and round.
    I'm disappointed you didn't put in a reference to a Bizarre Love Triangle.
    Every time I think of you
    I feel shot right through with a bolt of [Tory] blue
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 50,007

    From the Sunday Times

    NICK CLEGG will seek to heal the wounds of the Liberal Democrats’ disastrous election results last month by handing peerages to key figures who lost their seats.

    He is thought to be lining up Sir Graham Watson, the former MEP for South West England, for a peerage along with senior councillors such as Richard Kemp, the former leader of Liverpool council.

    The peerages are expected to be awarded in next year's dissolution honours list which will mark the end of the parliament. Clegg is also expected to hand peerages to departing MPs including Sir Menzies Campbell, Sir Alan Beith, Sir Malcolm Bruce and Don Foster.

    Blimey - just how many gongs are in his gift? Don't give up yet Mike.
    Mike is already in line for an OGH :)
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    SocratesSocrates Posts: 10,322
    oldnat said:

    AndyJS

    "I hope all those Scot Nats are supporting England tonight."

    Why? Have you already given up hope of Lab, LD, Con & "Couldnae gie a damn" supporters from Scotland supporting England?

    I'll support a fellow member of the Union tonight. Whether that turns out to be England or Italy will depend on who plays the better football.

    I thought the Scottish nationalist line was that the English and Scots were close enough that we wouldn't be foreigners even in the case of independence? Yet now you're telling us we're as foreign as Italians...
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    Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 26,052
    Socrates said:



    Oh, I didn't realise you were the sort of muppet that argued with faux outrage. Such types aren't worth debating with, as they just try to dodge the facts. Any student of history knows death tolls in places like China are far higher than elsewhere on population alone. That does not mean I am defending communism.

    We appear to be retreading old ground. I explicitly stated that by replacement of God, I didn't mean rejection of the supernatural. Not sure how I can make it any clearer.

    I was baffled rather than outraged by your ridiculous arguments about population. The losses of people in China during the Cultural Revolution and after it took place under Communism, and occurred against a background of Confucianism, ancestor worship, Taoism etc. I cannot see mass cannibalism occurring as it did amongst people imbued with concern for the hereafter. By contrast, the British annexed, fought over, subjugated, exploited, and controlled the vast and hugely populous Indian subcontinent in the 19th century. This colonial rule was not without bloodletting and brutality, but the systematic slaughter of millions is notable by its absence.
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    nigel4englandnigel4england Posts: 4,800
    dodrade said:

    Don't know if any of you can get RTE, but Giles and Dunphy are scathing of England already, Rooney unfufilled potential, Jagielka not international class and Gerrard over the hill.

    Pair of muppets, Giles was one of the dirtiest players I've ever seen. Not hard, but dirty, and there is a big difference.
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    JohnOJohnO Posts: 4,226

    From the Sunday Times

    NICK CLEGG will seek to heal the wounds of the Liberal Democrats’ disastrous election results last month by handing peerages to key figures who lost their seats.

    He is thought to be lining up Sir Graham Watson, the former MEP for South West England, for a peerage along with senior councillors such as Richard Kemp, the former leader of Liverpool council.

    The peerages are expected to be awarded in next year's dissolution honours list which will mark the end of the parliament. Clegg is also expected to hand peerages to departing MPs including Sir Menzies Campbell, Sir Alan Beith, Sir Malcolm Bruce and Don Foster.

    Blimey - just how many gongs are in his gift? Don't give up yet Mike.
    Indeed, I'm pressing Dave to give JohnO a peerage as well.
    Sound man. Remind him that Elmbridge produced the highest Tory share of any Borough in the land in the Euros. If that doesn't merit a life barony....
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    Eh_ehm_a_ehEh_ehm_a_eh Posts: 552
    AndyJS said:

    I hope all those Scot Nats are supporting England tonight.

    Supporting one team of no hopers is bad enough, now you want them to follow another set.
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    ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,105
    @ianbirrell: Be warned: Tony Blair, the man with absolutely no shame, has written a long essay absolving himself of any guilt over events in Iraq
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 50,007
    ToryJim said:

    @ianbirrell: Be warned: Tony Blair, the man with absolutely no shame, has written a long essay absolving himself of any guilt over events in Iraq

    He's on Marr tomorrow morning - I think I'll have a lie-in :)
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    Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411
    Biggest win since 1966 coming up go Cameron!!!!!!!!!!
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    ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,105

    ToryJim said:

    @ianbirrell: Be warned: Tony Blair, the man with absolutely no shame, has written a long essay absolving himself of any guilt over events in Iraq

    He's on Marr tomorrow morning - I think I'll have a lie-in :)
    Oh dear Lord
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 115,415
    JohnO said:

    From the Sunday Times

    NICK CLEGG will seek to heal the wounds of the Liberal Democrats’ disastrous election results last month by handing peerages to key figures who lost their seats.

    He is thought to be lining up Sir Graham Watson, the former MEP for South West England, for a peerage along with senior councillors such as Richard Kemp, the former leader of Liverpool council.

    The peerages are expected to be awarded in next year's dissolution honours list which will mark the end of the parliament. Clegg is also expected to hand peerages to departing MPs including Sir Menzies Campbell, Sir Alan Beith, Sir Malcolm Bruce and Don Foster.

    Blimey - just how many gongs are in his gift? Don't give up yet Mike.
    Indeed, I'm pressing Dave to give JohnO a peerage as well.
    Sound man. Remind him that Elmbridge produced the highest Tory share of any Borough in the land in the Euros. If that doesn't merit a life barony....
    That deserves a Dukedom.
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 50,007
    Come on, Ital...er, I mean England!

    (Seems my Tebbit Chip is working fine :)
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    Edin_RokzEdin_Rokz Posts: 516
    The most favourite YouTube video in Scotland tonight is, wait for it, yes even you OldNat, AndyJS and Socrates, clear your throats, have a good swallow of something alcoholic - you will need it believe me, and join in:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04ckV9QueXc
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    oldnatoldnat Posts: 136
    Socrates

    Why would you consider the Italians as "foreigners", as if they are some alien species? They're so close to us that their Embassies will provide support for any UK citizen, as for their own. Just as UK Embassies will do for them.

    That's what being in a Union means - mutual respect and support. Of course, those in Liverpool are not, therefore, bound to support a Manchester team!
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    AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    If playing football was like managing an economy, England would win 5-0.

    St. George for England.
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    As long as England don't lose on penalties I'll be happy.
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    fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,289
    And we have kick off, good luck England.
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    ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,105
    AndyJS said:

    As long as England don't lose on penalties I'll be happy.

    Haha
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 115,415
    Bugger me, I thought my 14/1 tip was a winner then.
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited June 2014
    If the candidates for next Tory leader are Boris and Theresa May, the correct choice is obvious to most people. Problem is the Tories have a history of making the wrong choice, as with Ken Clarke vs IDS in 2001.
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    fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,289
    edited June 2014
    Damn! I thought that was a goal!
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    ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,105

    Bugger me, I thought my 14/1 tip was a winner then.

    That was close.
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    The BBC graphics said goal!
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 50,007
    Two chances already!
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 115,415

    Two chances already!

    Both by Liverpool players.
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Betfair odds have moved slightly in England's favour since the start of the match.
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    AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    We need 'pouter and Basil to move the goalposts a little.
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    fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,289
    Err, no they won't.
    Socrates said:

    Tory/UKIP 50%
    Progressives 41%

    COA 39%
    LAB 34%

    If the next government brings in PR, which is a possibility, the Tories will need to mend their fences with UKIP pretty quickly.
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    England going all Nigel Farage - dont want to go near a foreigner..
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    Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411
    Only one winner tonight!

    England totally dominating!!
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    What's the longest a match has gone without a goal so far in the tournament?
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    Goodness Phil Neville is sooo dull. His and David Moyes' team talks must have been like f@cking mogadon..
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 115,415
    AndyJS said:

    What's the longest a match has gone without a goal so far in the tournament?

    61 mins

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    Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 31,280

    An overwhelming majority of young voters wants Britain to maintain its tradition of offering sanctuary for refugees, according to a poll that challenges the political belief that an anti-asylum ticket will woo the electorate.

    Eight out of 10 people who will be eligible to vote for the first time next May said they were proud of Britain's legacy of protecting people fleeing violence, war and persecution, while three-quarters urged the government to maintain the UK's reputation for offering a haven for people, particularly children.

    http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jun/14/yougov-first-time-voters-refugees?CMP=twt_fd

    That is good to see. Along with Overseas Aid I think Asylum to those who genuinely need it is a great sign of an advanced and enlightened democracy.

    Indeed one of the arguments I have against uncontrolled migration from the EU is that it forces the government to toughen up on migration from elsewhere, including asylum, keeping out people who may have far more to offer or be in far greater need of help.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 115,415

    Goodness Phil Neville is sooo dull. His and David Moyes' team talks must have been like f@cking mogadon..

    You know what happened don't you.

    The BBC head honchos said get Neville for the World Cup, and the recruitment guy failed.
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    ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,105
    We are actually looking not too bad.
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    DavidLDavidL Posts: 51,986
    I hope England don't regret missing these half chances. Good open game though.
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    4/1 for 0-0.
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    Goodness Phil Neville is sooo dull. His and David Moyes' team talks must have been like f@cking mogadon..

    You know what happened don't you.

    The BBC head honchos said get Neville for the World Cup, and the recruitment guy failed.
    Phil Neville the new voice of the Dignitas satnav..
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    Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411
    Never forget world war II Italy run away!
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Half the population of Bedford is Italian, I wonder who they're supporting tonight.
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    FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195
    Is there anyything wmore nerve wracking than watching England play in the World cup?

    Hiding behind sofa here
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    foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    I think its just that Italy changed ends at half time...
    Ave_it said:

    Never forget world war II Italy run away!

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    SimonStClareSimonStClare Posts: 7,976
    Floater said:

    Is there anyything wmore nerve wracking than watching England play in the World cup?

    Hiding behind sofa here

    Yep - it's like watching Dr Who when aged 7..!
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    ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,105
    Bugger
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 50,007
    Noooooo!
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    FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195
    ooff - nice goal Italy
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,525
    England sold the dummy...
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    AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    That set piece was just a little too artful for our boys.
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Easy clearance missed by England about 45 secs before the goal.
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    Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411
    Utter meltdown. Rooney/Gerrard contributing nothing typical scousers!
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    Bugger
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 115,415
    England level.
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 50,007
    Sturridge!!!
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    DavidLDavidL Posts: 51,986
    What a goal!
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    FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195
    F***K yeah!!!!!!
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,525
    You beaut!
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    ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,105
    That's more bloody like it!!!!
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    dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,294
    First half decent thing Rooney has done lovely goal.
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    Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411
    All about the Liverpool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,289
    Goalllllllll
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    Have at it!!!!!!!
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Someone badly injured - not sure who it is.
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    SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 39,133
    Oh ye of little faith!!!
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    SimonStClareSimonStClare Posts: 7,976
    Fish n’ chips 1 – pizza calzone 1 - And Rooney, pull your socks up.
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    AndyJS said:

    Someone badly injured - not sure who it is.

    England Physio?????
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 115,415
    AndyJS said:

    Someone badly injured - not sure who it is.

    It's Gary Lewin, the England physio

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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited June 2014

    AndyJS said:

    Someone badly injured - not sure who it is.

    England Physio?????
    Yes, possibly a broken ankle. Maybe the England celebration was a bit over the top, to put it mildly.
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    ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,105

    AndyJS said:

    Someone badly injured - not sure who it is.

    It's Gary Lewin, the England physio

    Physio heal thyself?
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,525
    Them Scousers need some Tory MP's, Ave_it......
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    SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 39,133
    Argentina look the team to beat now. They're getting better and better without playing a game.
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    AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815

    Them Scousers need some Tory MP's, Ave_it......

    Ed's doing his best.

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    DavidLDavidL Posts: 51,986
    I wonder if both teams will dig in a bit. Quite tempted by 1-1 at this point.
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    If England could stop giving the ball away needlessly they wouldn't have had any problems.
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    Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411
    England best team in the world!!!!!!!!!
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    SimonStClareSimonStClare Posts: 7,976
    AndyJS said:

    If England could stop giving the ball away needlessly they wouldn't have had any problems.

    I blame the pink booties some are wearing - spornosexuals?
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    That was quality from Jagielka brilliant defending
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    nigel4englandnigel4england Posts: 4,800
    Anyone who has backed 1-1 you can get 3.45 for over 2.5 goals but not much liquidity left
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
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    FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195

    I've just watched the film Gravity.

    That's 90 minutes of my life I won't be getting back.

    I really enjoyed that film - just suspend disbelief and enjoy the ride.
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    ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,105
    Dislocated ankle for Lewin. Ouch.
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