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  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,950
    Dr. Prasannan, and Dr. David Kelly.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    marke09 said:

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    Tom Newton Dunn ‏@tnewtondunn 1m

    Re Ed Mili 'apology'; his spokesman confirms it isn't for doing Sun pic and he doesn't regret it. Just for causing any offence, if it did...

    How can you apologise and not apologise at the same time?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,121
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  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    AndyJS said:


    How can you apologise and not apologise at the same time?

    How long until he apologises for the non-apology?

    Is he, even now, in his office practising walking, starting with his right left foot?
  • SimonStClareSimonStClare Posts: 7,976

    marke09 said:

    The Queen's Birthday Honours are released tonight but I have seen or heard no leaks of names ahead of it which is quite unusual

    Only one I've seen is Dame Maggie Smith getting upgraded to a Companion of Honour
    HM must be a Downton Abbey fan - and glad to hear that, I do like old Dame Maggie.
  • marke09marke09 Posts: 926
    Apparently some postal workers in Skelmersdale threatened to walk out if forced to deliver the free sun - since when have posties had the right to refuse to deliver anything that they are paid to deliver
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,708
    Socrates said:

    OT Cameron apparently saying Juncker doesn't have a democratic mandate because his name wasn't on anyone's ballot paper. This seems a bit rich considering David Cameron's name wasn't on the ballot papers in 2010. Not only that, he'd actually tried putting his name on the ballot papers in Ealing in 2007 ("David Cameron's Conservatives"), then stopped doing it because the approach totally bombed and they lost.

    But Juncker's party wasn't even on ballot papers.

    Also, even if it had, Juncker certainly doesn't have democratic legitimacy in the UK. Even at their worst, the Tories got a sixth of the vote in Scotland. The EPP got, what, 0.2% in the UK? It would be completely illegitimate for someone to get in on that basis and make decisions that affect this country. The response in Scotland was that the Scots got granted a huge load of autonomy. But the EU refuses to give that to us.
    I don't think that's quite right for Scotland. If you imagine the Scottish Conservative Party had fallen out with the rest of the Conservative Party, I don't think that would have necessarily meant that Scottish devolution needed to happen. I personally think it was a good idea on its own merits, but a hypothetical Scottish Tory flounce wouldn't have been the most important consideration.

    BTW, a better analogy here if the situation persists would be Northern Ireland. But I don't think the situation will persist; after a cycle or two the Tories will stop trying to prevent their group from running a candidate, and UK Labour will take part in the process properly and stop their half-arsed sulking.
  • FlightpathFlightpath Posts: 4,012
    Miliband was entitled to support the Sun's England campaign, just like other leaders. There was no legal requirement to pose with a paper. He could have used say a football. Or whatever. Maybe he could have posed with some other charitable artifact but with a bit of thought, and if the Sun is so toxic to labour, he could have done something different.
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