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  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    MrJones said:

    ToryJim said:
    yeah the question is whether it's a company of hard lads or actual brigades on the move

    if Maliki throws in with Iran to avoid getting Gadaffied with a bayonet then it'll be brigades and the US state department will have blood flowing out the doors

    shouldn't laugh really as it's serious but in terms of unintended consequences this has the possibility of taking the world record

    then again maybe he'll just panic and run and the Isis people take over in the chaos
    Who do you think can save america's bacon right now? Only Iran is willing to do so.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,959
    steve hawkes ‏@steve_hawkes 4m

    Imagine the decisions the ref will give Qatar in their opening game in eight years' time
  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,189
    Speedy said:

    MrJones said:

    ToryJim said:
    yeah the question is whether it's a company of hard lads or actual brigades on the move

    if Maliki throws in with Iran to avoid getting Gadaffied with a bayonet then it'll be brigades and the US state department will have blood flowing out the doors

    shouldn't laugh really as it's serious but in terms of unintended consequences this has the possibility of taking the world record

    then again maybe he'll just panic and run and the Isis people take over in the chaos
    Who do you think can save america's bacon right now? Only Iran is willing to do so.
    Their price will be too high.
  • SocratesSocrates Posts: 10,322
    Woman from Stop the War on Question Time making a fool of herself
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    RodCrosby said:

    Rumours of fighting near Abu Ghraib and Baghdad Airport. ISIS appear to be approaching from the west, rather than the north.

    Well they have surrounded the city from 3 sides, they can pick any of the 3 they like.

  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    For those who doubt juniors predicting skills check the end of the last thread!

    His secret method is not quite as mysterious as the products of Jacks ARSE. He played all the group matches on subbutteo over the last fortnight.

    Foxinsox jr's predictions for tommorow will be posted shortly!

  • BobaFettBobaFett Posts: 2,789

    BobaFett said:

    Croatia absolutely robbed of the draw there. Should still qualify. Brazil look very beatable

    Not if brazil keep getting them sort of ref's ;-)

    Lol. No doubt Sepp has taken care of the officials ;-)
  • MrJonesMrJones Posts: 3,523
    Speedy said:

    Rumours now Baghdad International Airport is now closed after some iraqi lawmakers took flights to Jordan.
    And yes there seems to be fighting on the south side of Baghdad.

    ConflictReporter @MiddleEast_BRK · 38m
    #BreakingNews Limited clashes between Sunni rebels and Iraqi security forces broke out in the southern #Baghdad district of #Doura. #Iraq

    google maps is so cool
  • SocratesSocrates Posts: 10,322
    Speedy said:

    MrJones said:

    ToryJim said:
    yeah the question is whether it's a company of hard lads or actual brigades on the move

    if Maliki throws in with Iran to avoid getting Gadaffied with a bayonet then it'll be brigades and the US state department will have blood flowing out the doors

    shouldn't laugh really as it's serious but in terms of unintended consequences this has the possibility of taking the world record

    then again maybe he'll just panic and run and the Isis people take over in the chaos
    Who do you think can save america's bacon right now? Only Iran is willing to do so.
    America doesn't need anyone to save its bacon. Iraq's the one in trouble. If the Americans choose to step it will be for Iraq's benefit and for the world's protection against a terrorist base.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 26,789
    Me_ said:

    Well, well, well. People were simply screaming some bad things at Fifa and Dilma... No need to remember we have elections this year.

    Great to see you again Me.

    I was hoping that we would hear from PB's man on the spot.
  • FalseFlagFalseFlag Posts: 1,801
    How ironic if Israeli machinations lead to a Shia arc led by Iran dominating the Middle East. Israeli foreign policy has two aims in fracturing their neighbours along racial and religious lines as well as drawing Western armed forces in. Epic fail despite initial success.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 26,789
    Am I the only person who thinks Adrian Chiles is a tedious tub of lard ?
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    Socrates said:

    Speedy said:

    MrJones said:

    ToryJim said:
    yeah the question is whether it's a company of hard lads or actual brigades on the move

    if Maliki throws in with Iran to avoid getting Gadaffied with a bayonet then it'll be brigades and the US state department will have blood flowing out the doors

    shouldn't laugh really as it's serious but in terms of unintended consequences this has the possibility of taking the world record

    then again maybe he'll just panic and run and the Isis people take over in the chaos
    Who do you think can save america's bacon right now? Only Iran is willing to do so.
    America doesn't need anyone to save its bacon. Iraq's the one in trouble. If the Americans choose to step it will be for Iraq's benefit and for the world's protection against a terrorist base.
    Do you think Baghdad falling will not be a disaster (at least political) for the USA?
    And who can prevent that? By the time the americans decide it might be too late, only the iranians are willing to prevent it as of now.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,959

    Am I the only person who thinks Adrian Chiles is a tedious tub of lard ?

    No
  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,189

    Am I the only person who thinks Adrian Chiles is a tedious tub of lard ?

    No.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
  • SocratesSocrates Posts: 10,322
    Speedy said:

    Socrates said:

    Speedy said:

    MrJones said:

    ToryJim said:
    yeah the question is whether it's a company of hard lads or actual brigades on the move

    if Maliki throws in with Iran to avoid getting Gadaffied with a bayonet then it'll be brigades and the US state department will have blood flowing out the doors

    shouldn't laugh really as it's serious but in terms of unintended consequences this has the possibility of taking the world record

    then again maybe he'll just panic and run and the Isis people take over in the chaos
    Who do you think can save america's bacon right now? Only Iran is willing to do so.
    America doesn't need anyone to save its bacon. Iraq's the one in trouble. If the Americans choose to step it will be for Iraq's benefit and for the world's protection against a terrorist base.
    Do you think Baghdad falling will not be a disaster (at least political) for the USA?
    And who can prevent that? By the time the americans decide it might be too late, only the iranians are willing to prevent it as of now.
    The political damage to the USA from the invasion of Iraq has already happened. Everyone has already accepted that that war was a huge mistake. Including the current US President.
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815

    Am I the only person who thinks Adrian Chiles is a tedious tub of lard ?

    You are certainly sounder on Chiles than you are on Osborne, ar.

  • Scrapheap_as_wasScrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,069
    That ref would fit in well as an itv commentator, now that is a 'good idea' @a townsend
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,406

    UKIP do appear to be on the slide in recent days with YouGov.

    Any tables ?

    To my mind UKIP is subject to alot of weighting vagaries.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    I just watched a different series of tub of lards on CNN, the iraqi foreign minister. (No wonder they are losing)
  • MrJonesMrJones Posts: 3,523
    Speedy said:

    MrJones said:

    ToryJim said:
    yeah the question is whether it's a company of hard lads or actual brigades on the move

    if Maliki throws in with Iran to avoid getting Gadaffied with a bayonet then it'll be brigades and the US state department will have blood flowing out the doors

    shouldn't laugh really as it's serious but in terms of unintended consequences this has the possibility of taking the world record

    then again maybe he'll just panic and run and the Isis people take over in the chaos
    Who do you think can save america's bacon right now? Only Iran is willing to do so.
    I don't know if they want it saved exactly. They (as in the part of the US administration that wants a war with Syria) want to bounce Obama into Iraq 2.0.

    If Obama just holds still and keeps his nerve the facts on the ground should make it peter out imo.

    If he wants to do something to actively stop it he just needs to ring the Kurds and tell them to cut the supply routes from the north.

    It's Maliki really. If he figures out he's going to be Gadaffied as a pawn in a game over Syria his only sensible move is to throw in with the Iranians.
  • Scrapheap_as_wasScrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,069
    I'm astonished Croatia team managed to keep composure to not get 1 or 2 red cards
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 32,682
    The Mail attacks on Cameron and Hague are just ludicrous. It is no secret I am not a fan of Cameron's (if you will please excuse the understatement) but he was pushing for action in Syria and did everything he could to try and make it happen. The fact that he did the decent thing and unlike Blair made sure there was a proper informed debate - which he then lost - is to his credit and to then claim he has done nothing is just plain wrong.
  • MrJonesMrJones Posts: 3,523
    RodCrosby said:

    Rumours of fighting near Abu Ghraib and Baghdad Airport. ISIS appear to be approaching from the west, rather than the north.

    Anyone who's seen "Black Hawk Down" will know driving a convoy of humvees through hostile sections of a city where every man has an AK47 is probably not a good idea.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    MrJones said:

    Speedy said:

    MrJones said:

    ToryJim said:
    yeah the question is whether it's a company of hard lads or actual brigades on the move

    if Maliki throws in with Iran to avoid getting Gadaffied with a bayonet then it'll be brigades and the US state department will have blood flowing out the doors

    shouldn't laugh really as it's serious but in terms of unintended consequences this has the possibility of taking the world record

    then again maybe he'll just panic and run and the Isis people take over in the chaos
    Who do you think can save america's bacon right now? Only Iran is willing to do so.
    I don't know if they want it saved exactly. They (as in the part of the US administration that wants a war with Syria) want to bounce Obama into Iraq 2.0.

    If Obama just holds still and keeps his nerve the facts on the ground should make it peter out imo.

    If he wants to do something to actively stop it he just needs to ring the Kurds and tell them to cut the supply routes from the north.

    It's Maliki really. If he figures out he's going to be Gadaffied as a pawn in a game over Syria his only sensible move is to throw in with the Iranians.
    It seems so, Iran is the only option left for Iraq.
  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,189

    The Mail attacks on Cameron and Hague are just ludicrous. It is no secret I am not a fan of Cameron's (if you will please excuse the understatement) but he was pushing for action in Syria and did everything he could to try and make it happen. The fact that he did the decent thing and unlike Blair made sure there was a proper informed debate - which he then lost - is to his credit and to then claim he has done nothing is just plain wrong.

    I think the most egregious thing is the idea he can't go out for a meal with his wife and that Hague shouldn't be attending a long planned event to deal with an important issue long neglected. I'm not saying the government response to the situation is brilliant, or even existent, but I think they can be forgiven given it looks like half of Iraq has capitulated in a matter of a day. I suspect they are trying to get a handle on what is going on before diving in with both feet.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Foxinsox jr has predicted via his subbutteo set:

    Mexico 1 Cameroon 0
    Chile 2 Australia 0
    Spain 1 Netherlands 1

    I have paid him his winnings tonight (minus a small deduction for the beer fund)
  • SocratesSocrates Posts: 10,322
    I see the Question Time panel is four lefties and one rightie tonight.
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    Socrates said:

    I see the Question Time panel is four lefties and one rightie tonight.

    I am not sure I would describe Ian Hislop as a leftie.

    Do you think IDS is?
  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,189

    Foxinsox jr has predicted via his subbutteo set:

    Mexico 1 Cameroon 0
    Chile 2 Australia 0
    Spain 1 Netherlands 1

    I have paid him his winnings tonight (minus a small deduction for the beer fund)

    Keeping the beer fund afloat is important. I must say though I'm missing the psychic predictions of Paul the Octopus.
  • Oliver_PBOliver_PB Posts: 397
    How can you take the Conservatives seriously on immigration when the head of the Bank of England is an immigrant? Was there really not a single qualified British person for that job?
  • Y0kelY0kel Posts: 2,307
    edited June 2014
    Last night I reported that one of Saddam's old lieutenants was about to come out of the shadows. And so today the media is reporting that Izzat Ibrahim al Douri, a senior Baathist is one of the leaders of the Sunni march.

    Be clear at this point that ISIS probably do not even represent the largest part of the Sunni effort right now. A lot of tribes, some of whom joined the 'Awakening' to take on the radicals a few years back are in play alongside those same radicals.

    Many of the actions closer to Bagdhad from the west and south west are Sunni tribes at work. They are, however, taking some relatively friendly territory on the way south and east to Bagdhad.

    This is a sectarian move, not purely a Jihadist one. The Maliki govt knows this and has been aware of it for a while. The idea that ISIS alone could just take Bagdhad or indeed make the extent of the current land grab in anyway permanent is laughable. That government has pursued a heavily sectarian policy and this is the counter. If anyone doesn't believe it, ask yourself why the Iraqi government have opened a new co-ordinating location deep in the Shi'te owned south. If things get that bad thats the retrench point. Not only that, as I mentioned yesterday the government forces are busy running curfews and arresting people in Sunni districts of the capital.

    The Iranians have turned up to look at what they can do, the US work effort will likely be symbolic. The external people to watch apart from the Iranians are the Turks, who are gearing for action if they see fit.

  • Me_Me_ Posts: 66

    Me_ said:

    Well, well, well. People were simply screaming some bad things at Fifa and Dilma... No need to remember we have elections this year.

    Great to see you again Me.

    I was hoping that we would hear from PB's man on the spot.
    On spot just for another week. I`m paying a visit to London next week!
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Hislop has previously revealed himself as a LibDem sympathiser.

    IDS calm under fire. He has grown on me.
    AveryLP said:

    Socrates said:

    I see the Question Time panel is four lefties and one rightie tonight.

    I am not sure I would describe Ian Hislop as a leftie.

    Do you think IDS is?
  • MrJonesMrJones Posts: 3,523
    Y0kel said:

    Last night I reported that one of Saddam's old lieutenants was about to come out of the shadows. And so today the media is reporting that Izzat Ibrahim al Douri, a senior Baathist is one of the leaders of the Sunni march.

    Be clear at this point that ISIS probably do not even represent the largest part of the Sunni effort right now. A lot of tribes, some of whom joined the 'Awakening' to take on the radicals a few years back are in play alongside those same radicals.

    Many of the actions closer to Bagdhad from the west and south west are Sunni tribes at work. They are, however, taking some relatively friendly territory on the way south and east to Bagdhad.

    This is a sectarian move, not purely a Jihadist one. The Maliki govt knows this and has been aware of it for a while. The idea that ISIS alone could just take Bagdhad or indeed make the extent of the current land grab in anyway permanent is laughable. That government has pursued a heavily sectarian policy and this is the counter. If anyone doesn't believe it, ask yourself why the Iraqi government have opened a new co-ordinating location deep in the Shi'te owned south. If things get that bad thats the retrench point. Not only that, as I mentioned yesterday the government forces are busy running curfews and arresting people in Sunni districts of the capital.

    The Iranians have turned up to look at what they can do, the US work effort will likely be symbolic. The external people to watch apart from the Iranians are the Turks, who are gearing for action if they see fit.

    That makes a lot more sense than what's in the news.
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,821
    edited June 2014
    Oliver_PB said:

    How can you take the Conservatives seriously on immigration when the head of the Bank of England is an immigrant? Was there really not a single qualified British person for that job?

    Yeah, they've always been like that. Just look at Churchill's War Cabinet. Lord Beaverbrook was another bloody Canadian, and he held several posts.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    That Bomber Harris was a blooming foreigner too...

    Oliver_PB said:

    How can you take the Conservatives seriously on immigration when the head of the Bank of England is an immigrant? Was there really not a single qualified British person for that job?

    Yeah, they've always been like that. Just look at Churchill's War Cabinet. Lord Beaverbrook was another bloody Canadian, and he had several posts.
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    edited June 2014
    Y0kel said:

    Last night I reported that one of Saddam's old lieutenants was about to come out of the shadows. And so today the media is reporting that Izzat Ibrahim al Douri, a senior Baathist is one of the leaders of the Sunni march.

    Be clear at this point that ISIS probably do not even represent the largest part of the Sunni effort right now. A lot of tribes, some of whom joined the 'Awakening' to take on the radicals a few years back are in play alongside those same radicals.

    Many of the actions closer to Bagdhad from the west and south west are Sunni tribes at work. They are, however, taking some relatively friendly territory on the way south and east to Bagdhad.

    This is a sectarian move, not purely a Jihadist one. The Maliki govt knows this and has been aware of it for a while. The idea that ISIS alone could just take Bagdhad or indeed make the extent of the current land grab in anyway permanent is laughable. That government has pursued a heavily sectarian policy and this is the counter. If anyone doesn't believe it, ask yourself why the Iraqi government have opened a new co-ordinating location deep in the Shi'te owned south. If things get that bad thats the retrench point. Not only that, as I mentioned yesterday the government forces are busy running curfews and arresting people in Sunni districts of the capital.

    The Iranians have turned up to look at what they can do, the US work effort will likely be symbolic. The external people to watch apart from the Iranians are the Turks, who are gearing for action if they see fit.

    A great post Y0kel.

    My prediction is that the Turks will draw in the US under the cover of NATO.

    The crisis in Iraq may also provide the basis for solving unfinished business in Syria.

    If anything is likely to get Obama going it will be getting one over Putin. Since Russia's annexation of Crimea the reluctance to tread on their toes in Syria may now have evaporated.

  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,189

    That Bomber Harris was a blooming foreigner too...

    Oliver_PB said:

    How can you take the Conservatives seriously on immigration when the head of the Bank of England is an immigrant? Was there really not a single qualified British person for that job?

    Yeah, they've always been like that. Just look at Churchill's War Cabinet. Lord Beaverbrook was another bloody Canadian, and he had several posts.
    Not unless Cheltenham seceded at some point and nobody told us.
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    Dr Sox

    If Hislop has publicly identified with the Lib Dems it will have been a flag of convenience.

    He is Tunbridge Wells Tory through and through.

    Hislop has previously revealed himself as a LibDem sympathiser.

    IDS calm under fire. He has grown on me.


    AveryLP said:

    Socrates said:

    I see the Question Time panel is four lefties and one rightie tonight.

    I am not sure I would describe Ian Hislop as a leftie.

    Do you think IDS is?
  • MrJonesMrJones Posts: 3,523
    So a Sunni rebellion against the Shia government being misreported in the West to try and bounce Iraq 2.0.

    That's makes a lot more sense than 800 dudes in Humvees blitzing half a country.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    He described himself as Rodesian; though to be fair always saw that as a British variant.
    ToryJim said:

    That Bomber Harris was a blooming foreigner too...

    Oliver_PB said:

    How can you take the Conservatives seriously on immigration when the head of the Bank of England is an immigrant? Was there really not a single qualified British person for that job?

    Yeah, they've always been like that. Just look at Churchill's War Cabinet. Lord Beaverbrook was another bloody Canadian, and he had several posts.
    Not unless Cheltenham seceded at some point and nobody told us.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Another armed robber with a life sentence is on the run from an open prison:

    http://news.sky.com/story/1281272/armed-robber-on-the-run-from-open-prison
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,578
    AndyJS said:

    Another armed robber with a life sentence is on the run from an open prison:

    http://news.sky.com/story/1281272/armed-robber-on-the-run-from-open-prison

    It is thought to be the second time he has escaped from an open prison.

    WTF?
  • manofkent2014manofkent2014 Posts: 1,543
    AndyJS said:

    Another armed robber with a life sentence is on the run from an open prison:

    http://news.sky.com/story/1281272/armed-robber-on-the-run-from-open-prison

    Well its the only way they can ensure there are enough prison places available for the following days new convicted! Don't worry they'll catch him and bring him back in good time. Think of it as an extended parole!
  • volcanopetevolcanopete Posts: 2,078
    There has a bit of support in Ladbrokes banded L/D seats market for the 21-30 market to 100-30.For those playing this market it has to be in the total equation.They could easily end up with the higher end of this band,or even lower.I've already covered this and make it a 9-4 chance ,joint with 31-40 at 9-4 also so 10-3 on offer is still a bet IMHO.
  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,189
    MrJones said:

    So a Sunni rebellion against the Shia government being misreported in the West to try and bounce Iraq 2.0.

    That's makes a lot more sense than 800 dudes in Humvees blitzing half a country.

    I suspect the true picture is both and neither. ISIS are clearly involved somehow but there has got to be more to it. There's been a sense for some time that Maliki isn't the person you'd necessarily want in a charged situation like Iraq. The danger is that it escalates into wider regional destabilisation, then we could really be in a mess. The very very last thing we need is trouble brewing for the Saudis etc
  • MarkSeniorMarkSenior Posts: 4,699
    Sleaford Westholme Linc Ind gain from Ind

    Linc Ind 342 Con 119 Lab 38

    Sleaford Quarrington Linc Ind gain from Con

    Linc Ind 527 Con 477 Ind 178
  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,189
    AndyJS said:

    Another armed robber with a life sentence is on the run from an open prison:

    http://news.sky.com/story/1281272/armed-robber-on-the-run-from-open-prison

    This is happening far too frequently, hopefully it will shorten Grayling's career.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,121
    OK, so entertaining match but marred by that dodgy penalty! Croat goalie was unlucky not to save it!
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815

    Sleaford Westholme Linc Ind gain from Ind

    Linc Ind 342 Con 119 Lab 38

    Sleaford Quarrington Linc Ind gain from Con

    Linc Ind 527 Con 477 Ind 178

    Why is Quarrington a gain from Con? Harry had it as an Ind defence?

  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    Comrade

    Have you been dining in Warwickshire this evening?

    OK, so entertaining match but marred by that dodgy penalty! Croat goalie was unlucky not to save it!

  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    edited June 2014

    There has a bit of support in Ladbrokes banded L/D seats market for the 21-30 market to 100-30.For those playing this market it has to be in the total equation.They could easily end up with the higher end of this band,or even lower.I've already covered this and make it a 9-4 chance ,joint with 31-40 at 9-4 also so 10-3 on offer is still a bet IMHO.

    I'm closing tonight with this observation.
    The junior coaltion Labour party in Ireland has fallen to just 4%, proves that being a junior member in coalition is very unhealthy.
    (Also Gerry Adams has his popularity up since his arrest)

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/red-c-poll-labour-at-a-dismal-4pc-30349314.html
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,121
    AveryLP said:

    Comrade

    Have you been dining in Warwickshire this evening?

    OK, so entertaining match but marred by that dodgy penalty! Croat goalie was unlucky not to save it!

    Comrade Chancellor. If you count Coventry as still being in Warks, then yes!
  • MarkSeniorMarkSenior Posts: 4,699
    Rother Collington Ind hold

    Ind 570 Con 338 UKIP 311 Lab 102

  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815

    Rother Collington Ind hold

    Ind 570 Con 338 UKIP 311 Lab 102

    The day the UKIP music died.
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815

    AveryLP said:

    Comrade

    Have you been dining in Warwickshire this evening?

    OK, so entertaining match but marred by that dodgy penalty! Croat goalie was unlucky not to save it!

    Comrade Chancellor. If you count Coventry as still being in Warks, then yes!
    I have driven through Coventry.

    Once.

    I had no idea of where it was at the time.

  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,121
    AveryLP said:

    AveryLP said:

    Comrade

    Have you been dining in Warwickshire this evening?

    OK, so entertaining match but marred by that dodgy penalty! Croat goalie was unlucky not to save it!

    Comrade Chancellor. If you count Coventry as still being in Warks, then yes!
    I have driven through Coventry.

    Once.

    I had no idea of where it was at the time.

    May I ask why the enquiry into my dining habits, Comrade?
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815

    AveryLP said:

    AveryLP said:

    Comrade

    Have you been dining in Warwickshire this evening?

    OK, so entertaining match but marred by that dodgy penalty! Croat goalie was unlucky not to save it!

    Comrade Chancellor. If you count Coventry as still being in Warks, then yes!
    I have driven through Coventry.

    Once.

    I had no idea of where it was at the time.

    May I ask why the enquiry into my dining habits, Comrade?
    I thought you were meeting Messrs. Brooke and Observer for the evening.

    There was a frantic hunt for your telephone number earlier in the day.

  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,189
    AveryLP said:

    AveryLP said:

    Comrade

    Have you been dining in Warwickshire this evening?

    OK, so entertaining match but marred by that dodgy penalty! Croat goalie was unlucky not to save it!

    Comrade Chancellor. If you count Coventry as still being in Warks, then yes!
    I have driven through Coventry.

    Once.

    I had no idea of where it was at the time.

    I went to Coventry once. I got in trouble for suggesting that it's difficult to pin down the bigger crime the Nazis bombing the Cathedral or the way it was rebuilt.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,121
    AveryLP said:

    AveryLP said:

    AveryLP said:

    Comrade

    Have you been dining in Warwickshire this evening?

    OK, so entertaining match but marred by that dodgy penalty! Croat goalie was unlucky not to save it!

    Comrade Chancellor. If you count Coventry as still being in Warks, then yes!
    I have driven through Coventry.

    Once.

    I had no idea of where it was at the time.

    May I ask why the enquiry into my dining habits, Comrade?
    I thought you were meeting Messrs. Brooke and Observer for the evening.

    There was a frantic hunt for your telephone number earlier in the day.

    I can confirm I made contact with Mr Brooke this morning, although it was too late to fix any plans for tonight, but we hope to meet up sometime over the next two weeks.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    I think the LD 21-30 seats is the one to bet on. Personal vote only takes you so far.

    I went on 13/2 after Newark, but as a Cleggite would be pleased to see the LDs over 40 seats, but it is not likely.
    Speedy said:

    There has a bit of support in Ladbrokes banded L/D seats market for the 21-30 market to 100-30.For those playing this market it has to be in the total equation.They could easily end up with the higher end of this band,or even lower.I've already covered this and make it a 9-4 chance ,joint with 31-40 at 9-4 also so 10-3 on offer is still a bet IMHO.

    I'm closing tonight with this observation.
    The junior coaltion Labour party in Ireland has fallen to just 4%, proves that being a junior member in coalition is very unhealthy.
    (Also Gerry Adams has his popularity up since his arrest)

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/red-c-poll-labour-at-a-dismal-4pc-30349314.html
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    ToryJim said:

    AveryLP said:

    AveryLP said:

    Comrade

    Have you been dining in Warwickshire this evening?

    OK, so entertaining match but marred by that dodgy penalty! Croat goalie was unlucky not to save it!

    Comrade Chancellor. If you count Coventry as still being in Warks, then yes!
    I have driven through Coventry.

    Once.

    I had no idea of where it was at the time.

    I went to Coventry once. I got in trouble for suggesting that it's difficult to pin down the bigger crime the Nazis bombing the Cathedral or the way it was rebuilt.
    I have always associated it with Benjamin Britten's War Requiem which was written for consecration of the rebuilt Cathedral in 1962. I have a video recording of the performance.

    The two seem inseparately linked and completely complementary.

  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815

    AveryLP said:

    AveryLP said:

    AveryLP said:

    Comrade

    Have you been dining in Warwickshire this evening?

    OK, so entertaining match but marred by that dodgy penalty! Croat goalie was unlucky not to save it!

    Comrade Chancellor. If you count Coventry as still being in Warks, then yes!
    I have driven through Coventry.

    Once.

    I had no idea of where it was at the time.

    May I ask why the enquiry into my dining habits, Comrade?
    I thought you were meeting Messrs. Brooke and Observer for the evening.

    There was a frantic hunt for your telephone number earlier in the day.

    I can confirm I made contact with Mr Brooke this morning, although it was too late to fix any plans for tonight, but we hope to meet up sometime over the next two weeks.
    It does explain your benevolent disposition tonight.

  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,121
    ToryJim said:

    AveryLP said:

    AveryLP said:

    Comrade

    Have you been dining in Warwickshire this evening?

    OK, so entertaining match but marred by that dodgy penalty! Croat goalie was unlucky not to save it!

    Comrade Chancellor. If you count Coventry as still being in Warks, then yes!
    I have driven through Coventry.

    Once.

    I had no idea of where it was at the time.

    I went to Coventry once. I got in trouble for suggesting that it's difficult to pin down the bigger crime the Nazis bombing the Cathedral or the way it was rebuilt.
    Strictly speaking it wasn't rebuilt per se, but a new structure built on a slightly different site.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,121
    AveryLP said:

    AveryLP said:

    AveryLP said:

    AveryLP said:

    Comrade

    Have you been dining in Warwickshire this evening?

    OK, so entertaining match but marred by that dodgy penalty! Croat goalie was unlucky not to save it!

    Comrade Chancellor. If you count Coventry as still being in Warks, then yes!
    I have driven through Coventry.

    Once.

    I had no idea of where it was at the time.

    May I ask why the enquiry into my dining habits, Comrade?
    I thought you were meeting Messrs. Brooke and Observer for the evening.

    There was a frantic hunt for your telephone number earlier in the day.

    I can confirm I made contact with Mr Brooke this morning, although it was too late to fix any plans for tonight, but we hope to meet up sometime over the next two weeks.
    It does explain your benevolent disposition tonight.

    I always have a benevolent disposition, Comrade!
  • FluffyThoughtsFluffyThoughts Posts: 2,420
    edited June 2014
    Before getting excited about Iraq can peeps learn some history?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Isandlwana

    The Kurds are forming the right-horn (stand-down Scots born "Yorkshire" lawyers); the Shias are retreating from an open plain - ok, desert - into more favourable ground. This is the enticing left-horn (no; not redrag compouter-vX)!

    The West should deploy ELINT/SIGINT to capture the Muzzies electronic messages and Jordan - with their upgraded Chally-Is - should be able to snip the Islamists' tin-pot Toyotas at 5600yds. A few Reapers with - sadly rushed - dual-mode Brimstones will see ISIS looking for 72-virgins (albeit in Hellfire)....
  • fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,320
    Look for the locally popular, but also high profile Libdems, history has told us that the voters don't tend to like decapitation strategies in these circumstances.

    I think the LD 21-30 seats is the one to bet on. Personal vote only takes you so far.

    I went on 13/2 after Newark, but as a Cleggite would be pleased to see the LDs over 40 seats, but it is not likely.


    Speedy said:

    There has a bit of support in Ladbrokes banded L/D seats market for the 21-30 market to 100-30.For those playing this market it has to be in the total equation.They could easily end up with the higher end of this band,or even lower.I've already covered this and make it a 9-4 chance ,joint with 31-40 at 9-4 also so 10-3 on offer is still a bet IMHO.

    I'm closing tonight with this observation.
    The junior coaltion Labour party in Ireland has fallen to just 4%, proves that being a junior member in coalition is very unhealthy.
    (Also Gerry Adams has his popularity up since his arrest)

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/red-c-poll-labour-at-a-dismal-4pc-30349314.html
  • MrJonesMrJones Posts: 3,523

    Before getting excited about Iraq can peeps learn some history?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Isandlwana

    The Kurds are forming the right-horn (stand-down Scots born "Yorkshire" lawyers); the Shias are retreating from an open plain - ok, desert - into more favourable ground. This is the enticing left-horn (no; not redrag compouter-vX)!

    The West should deploy ELINT/SIGINT to capture the Muzzies electronic messages and Jordan - with their upgraded Chally-Is - should be able to snip the Islamists' tin-pot Toyotas at 5600yds. A few Reapers with - sadly rushed - dual-mode Brimstones will see ISIS looking for 72-virgins (albeit in Hellfire)....

    If it's what the news is saying - small numbers of jihadists from Syria on what is basically a raid - then yes but if that's a load of the usual bollox and what's actually happening is a widespread Sunni rebellion in the north of Iraq that has been sparked off by the flood of western weaponry into Syria (via whoever) then it's a different kettle of fish entirely because then you're talking about fighting the whole of Sunni Iraq - again.

    Also if it's the second option then a lot of these towns being "captured" won't have been captured at all, just the locals joining the rebellion.
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737

    ToryJim said:

    AveryLP said:

    AveryLP said:

    Comrade

    Have you been dining in Warwickshire this evening?

    OK, so entertaining match but marred by that dodgy penalty! Croat goalie was unlucky not to save it!

    Comrade Chancellor. If you count Coventry as still being in Warks, then yes!
    I have driven through Coventry.

    Once.

    I had no idea of where it was at the time.

    I went to Coventry once. I got in trouble for suggesting that it's difficult to pin down the bigger crime the Nazis bombing the Cathedral or the way it was rebuilt.
    Strictly speaking it wasn't rebuilt per se, but a new structure built on a slightly different site.
    Should have left it as it was, as we did with our "bombed-out church", right in the heart of Liverpool, untouched since it was destroyed on the night of 6 May 1941...
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Luke's_Church,_Liverpool
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,564
    Today's YG looks like an outlier on the high side for Labour, just as yesterday looked on the low side. Doubt if much will happen for a while, but the clock is ticking away without many of those elusive Tory leads.
  • SocratesSocrates Posts: 10,322
    Oliver_PB said:

    How can you take the Conservatives seriously on immigration when the head of the Bank of England is an immigrant? Was there really not a single qualified British person for that job?

    This is a silly argument. If there's one type of immigration we should be completely comfortable with, it's highly skilled people at their top of their profession from a culture that's extremely similar to our own.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,121
    RodCrosby said:

    ToryJim said:

    AveryLP said:

    AveryLP said:

    Comrade

    Have you been dining in Warwickshire this evening?

    OK, so entertaining match but marred by that dodgy penalty! Croat goalie was unlucky not to save it!

    Comrade Chancellor. If you count Coventry as still being in Warks, then yes!
    I have driven through Coventry.

    Once.

    I had no idea of where it was at the time.

    I went to Coventry once. I got in trouble for suggesting that it's difficult to pin down the bigger crime the Nazis bombing the Cathedral or the way it was rebuilt.
    Strictly speaking it wasn't rebuilt per se, but a new structure built on a slightly different site.
    Should have left it as it was, as we did with our "bombed-out church", right in the heart of Liverpool, untouched since it was destroyed on the night of 6 May 1941...
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Luke's_Church,_Liverpool
    The old Coventry Cathedral is largely untouched, only the spire and small parts of the walls still stand.
  • SocratesSocrates Posts: 10,322
    MrJones said:

    Before getting excited about Iraq can peeps learn some history?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Isandlwana

    The Kurds are forming the right-horn (stand-down Scots born "Yorkshire" lawyers); the Shias are retreating from an open plain - ok, desert - into more favourable ground. This is the enticing left-horn (no; not redrag compouter-vX)!

    The West should deploy ELINT/SIGINT to capture the Muzzies electronic messages and Jordan - with their upgraded Chally-Is - should be able to snip the Islamists' tin-pot Toyotas at 5600yds. A few Reapers with - sadly rushed - dual-mode Brimstones will see ISIS looking for 72-virgins (albeit in Hellfire)....

    If it's what the news is saying - small numbers of jihadists from Syria on what is basically a raid - then yes but if that's a load of the usual bollox and what's actually happening is a widespread Sunni rebellion in the north of Iraq that has been sparked off by the flood of western weaponry into Syria (via whoever) then it's a different kettle of fish entirely because then you're talking about fighting the whole of Sunni Iraq - again.

    Also if it's the second option then a lot of these towns being "captured" won't have been captured at all, just the locals joining the rebellion.
    Indeed. We need to worry about ISIS, but if it's mainly local sectarians without hardcore Islamist leanings, then we should let them sort it out themselves.
  • fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,320
    The electoral clock is also ticking away when it comes to showing any actual chance of the Labour party as the main Opposition now proving that it could become the voters actual choice when it comes to a Government in waiting at the next GE.

    Today's YG looks like an outlier on the high side for Labour, just as yesterday looked on the low side. Doubt if much will happen for a while, but the clock is ticking away without many of those elusive Tory leads.

  • Oliver_PBOliver_PB Posts: 397
    Socrates said:

    Oliver_PB said:

    How can you take the Conservatives seriously on immigration when the head of the Bank of England is an immigrant? Was there really not a single qualified British person for that job?

    This is a silly argument. If there's one type of immigration we should be completely comfortable with, it's highly skilled people at their top of their profession from a culture that's extremely similar to our own.
    It's not a silly argument at all. It's just exposes the usual hypocrisy and class warfare nonsense from the right to create different rules for the rich, educated and caucasian.

    There is no incentive for local workers to be educated, trained and promoted when you can import experienced foreign workers, and those people have absolutely no allegiace to the UK and UK workers.
  • Oliver_PBOliver_PB Posts: 397
    It's glorious watching the Spurs tearing the Heat to pieces.
  • JohnLoonyJohnLoony Posts: 1,790
    edited June 2014
    JackW said:

    ToryJim said:

    The next but one claimant Joseph Wenzel is a rather attractive young man.

    Is he on JohnLoony's list of royal male hotties ?
    No, but Prince Louis of Luxembourg is. The most delightful fact about Louis is that he became a father at the age of 19. I've not heard of Joseph Wenzel (of Liechtenstein) before; he seems to be cute (ish) but not as gorgeous as Louis.

    The six royals who have been in the WAAAAGH League Table are:
    Peter Phillips (1998 to date) b. 15 Nov 1977
    Prince William (1998 to 2010) b. 21 June 1982
    Prince Harry (2001 to date) b. 15 Sep 1984
    Prince Louis of Luxembourg (2006 to date) b. 3 Aug 1986
    Prince Hamzah of Jordan (1999 to 2003) b. 29 March 1980
    Prince Hashem of Jordan (2003 to 2004) b. 10 June 1981

    In case anyone hasn't been paying attention, WAAAAGH stands for the Orldwide Ssociation for the Ssessment, Ppreciation and Dvancement of Orgeousness and Unkiness.
  • FPT

    "3:1 was foxinsoxuk jr's prediction. I got 15/1 for that."

    Quite brilliant Foxy - Shadsy should sign him up immediately!
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