Shiney2 I would love to see Salmond's face on Friday if UKIP picks up its first Scottish MEP. YES has spent the last month promising the Scots will be free of the Tories for ever, and what do the Scots do, but elect an MEP from a party even more Thatcherite than the Tories!!
If you really think that that is going to happen, why not nip over to BetVictor, where you can get a lovely 7/4 on UKIP picking up a Scottish MEP. How much have you got on?
My next door neighbor - who bought his home new at the same time as I did, has just sold his house after it being on the market for less than a month.
The actual price won't appear online until closing in 2 weeks, but he tells me he got more than he paid for it in 2005.
Given where the real estate market has been here the last 5-6 years that is encouraging news, even though his home is substantially smaller than mine.
It's still a buyers market here.
Are we supposed to be impressed? Rightmove report that asking prices for houses in Greater London have increased in price by 41.8% since October 2007, i.e. over the past 6.5 years. Oh and congratulations and thank you for informing us that you have a bigger house than your neighbour!
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Mine came in at half UKIP and half Tory. The rest a loooong way behind
James DEA @hsdeal 20h Allegedly she said "I don't care where you f***ing post this, just f**k off!" - UKIP Ashford campaign for @JaniceUKIP pic.twitter.com/N8miGjC9Du
Given that Romanians make up 0.002% of the population, is it necessarily a positive that they make up 0.6% of the prison population?
For goodness sake, Mr Isam! You have been told before any facts you introduce into any discussion just adds to the proof that you are a filthy racist and therefore proves that such "facts" are actually made up and are thus even more proof of the fact that you should be cast out and made to dwell in the lands of the uncircumcised.
Shiney2 I would love to see Salmond's face on Friday if UKIP picks up its first Scottish MEP. YES has spent the last month promising the Scots will be free of the Tories for ever, and what do the Scots do, but elect an MEP from a party even more Thatcherite than the Tories!!
If you really think that that is going to happen, why not nip over to BetVictor, where you can get a lovely 7/4 on UKIP picking up a Scottish MEP. How much have you got on?
Best prices - UKIP to win a Scottish MEP
Yes 7/4 (BetVictor) No 1/2 (Ladbrokes)
Farage thinks its 1/100!
Yes, I noticed that. Not terribly convinced myself, but 7/4 might be worth 50 quid?
James DEA @hsdeal 20h Allegedly she said "I don't care where you f***ing post this, just f**k off!" - UKIP Ashford campaign for @JaniceUKIP pic.twitter.com/N8miGjC9Du
James DEA @hsdeal 20h Allegedly she said "I don't care where you f***ing post this, just f**k off!" - UKIP Ashford campaign for @JaniceUKIP pic.twitter.com/N8miGjC9Du
True, but then Wellington was a gentleman and he was Irish.
There are those who might argue that Wellington was Anglo-Irish, not Irish...
Wellington is supposed to have said something about being born in a stable making you neither a horse nor a saviour. He was certainly a member of the Anglo-Irish ascendancy.
Yet a city was about to be slaughtered in their thousands. Pretty much everything seems better than that.
The evidence for that was some blood-curdling radio propaganda by Gaddafi's son - why aren't we intervening in South Sudan, for instance, where the evidence is much stronger? And although I'd probably have been up for protecting the city, it became rapidly obvious that our real objective was regime change to...er....
It might still prove a good idea, of course, but having supported the Iraq invasion partly with "better government for the people there" in mind, I've grown wary. Essentially we pick a side, kill people who support the other side, and then sooner or later lose interest and wander off. I don't say it's not sometimes better than doing nothing, but we do it too often.
Given that Romanians make up 0.002% of the population, is it necessarily a positive that they make up 0.6% of the prison population?
For goodness sake, Mr Isam! You have been told before any facts you introduce into any discussion just adds to the proof that you are a filthy racist and therefore proves that such "facts" are actually made up and are thus even more proof of the fact that you should be cast out and made to dwell in the lands of the uncircumcised.
Given that Romanians make up 0.002% of the population, is it necessarily a positive that they make up 0.6% of the prison population?
For goodness sake, Mr Isam! You have been told before any facts you introduce into any discussion just adds to the proof that you are a filthy racist and therefore proves that such "facts" are actually made up and are thus even more proof of the fact that you should be cast out and made to dwell in the lands of the uncircumcised.
People who misuse statistics like this piss me off no end.
Life in a Market Town Not one NATO soldier has set foot on Libyan soil. Parliament's vote against Syrian intervention has put paid to any further imminent Middle East adventures
Interesting test on voting suitability. I came over as a weak match for all - except for the Greens. I'll vote Ukip for the first time this month - I like to stick up for the underdog.
In 2009, ComRes was the closest pollster to the actual election results.
Subsample tastic!
(as an aside, when I went to the Breibart website it had an advert for asian girls available for marriage. Is that Breitbart or just the SeanT effect?)
Shiney2 I would love to see Salmond's face on Friday if UKIP picks up its first Scottish MEP. YES has spent the last month promising the Scots will be free of the Tories for ever, and what do the Scots do, but elect an MEP from a party even more Thatcherite than the Tories!!
If you really think that that is going to happen, why not nip over to BetVictor, where you can get a lovely 7/4 on UKIP picking up a Scottish MEP. How much have you got on?
Best prices - UKIP to win a Scottish MEP
Yes 7/4 (BetVictor) No 1/2 (Ladbrokes)
Farage thinks its 1/100!
Yes, I noticed that. Not terribly convinced myself, but 7/4 might be worth 50 quid?
I really wouldnt know. Wonder what makes him so certain?
Given that Romanians make up 0.002% of the population, is it necessarily a positive that they make up 0.6% of the prison population?
For goodness sake, Mr Isam! You have been told before any facts you introduce into any discussion just adds to the proof that you are a filthy racist and therefore proves that such "facts" are actually made up and are thus even more proof of the fact that you should be cast out and made to dwell in the lands of the uncircumcised.
People who misuse statistics like this piss me off no end.
Given that Romanians make up 0.002% of the population, is it necessarily a positive that they make up 0.6% of the prison population?
For goodness sake, Mr Isam! You have been told before any facts you introduce into any discussion just adds to the proof that you are a filthy racist and therefore proves that such "facts" are actually made up and are thus even more proof of the fact that you should be cast out and made to dwell in the lands of the uncircumcised.
People who misuse statistics like this piss me off no end.
Given that Romanians make up 0.002% of the population, is it necessarily a positive that they make up 0.6% of the prison population?
For goodness sake, Mr Isam! You have been told before any facts you introduce into any discussion just adds to the proof that you are a filthy racist and therefore proves that such "facts" are actually made up and are thus even more proof of the fact that you should be cast out and made to dwell in the lands of the uncircumcised.
People who misuse statistics like this piss me off no end.
Given that Romanians make up 0.002% of the population, is it necessarily a positive that they make up 0.6% of the prison population?
For goodness sake, Mr Isam! You have been told before any facts you introduce into any discussion just adds to the proof that you are a filthy racist and therefore proves that such "facts" are actually made up and are thus even more proof of the fact that you should be cast out and made to dwell in the lands of the uncircumcised.
People who misuse statistics like this piss me off no end.
Me?
No the maker of the bar chart!
Oh right! Phew!
Althought saying that, I do love a good Lib Dem-style bar chart ;-)
MorrisDancer Libya is nothing to do with us now, all we did was provide some cover for the rebels to topple Gaddafi, what they do now is up to them
UNSC resolution 1973 authorised the protection of civilians, including by the imposition of a no fly zone. It did not authorise the aiding and abetting of one side in a civil war, which is what we did. Our misuse of the resolution is one of the reasons the Russians distrust us so much.
I guess he distrusted Perfidious Albion a long time before that. But to win a war you should lie, you should cheat, and you should scheme. One of Blair's grosser failings,to my mind, was that he was happy to lie to me, his employer, but not to my country's enemies when he sought to wage war against them.
Gaddafi waged war on us for many years, we should have had him a long time ago. Revenge is a dish best served cold etc etc.
Yet a city was about to be slaughtered in their thousands. Pretty much everything seems better than that.
The evidence for that was some blood-curdling radio propaganda by Gaddafi's son - why aren't we intervening in South Sudan, for instance, where the evidence is much stronger? And although I'd probably have been up for protecting the city, it became rapidly obvious that our real objective was regime change to...er....
It might still prove a good idea, of course, but having supported the Iraq invasion partly with "better government for the people there" in mind, I've grown wary. Essentially we pick a side, kill people who support the other side, and then sooner or later lose interest and wander off. I don't say it's not sometimes better than doing nothing, but we do it too often.
I think attempting nation building is stupid. You go to war to protect your country's interests, and defeat your country's enemies, either when all else has failed or when analysis suggests your foe is so implacable that that is the only option.
Stone the crows, I go away for two days and polling becomes tres interesting.
Obviously the most important polling of the weekend was the ICM Wisdom Index (which ICM said was the most accurate polling at the last GE) which put the Tories on 31.4 per cent, to Labour’s 30.7 per cent.
Re which pollster is going to get the Euros right and which ones are going to get them wrong, there is a third possibility, they could all be wrong.
No it isn't, its dangerous, because it starts from the assumption that anybody who wants to question mass immigration in any way must be a moron. It assumes that certain society-changing policies successive governments have adopted without a mandate should be sealed off from criticism.
No it isn't, its dangerous, because it starts from the assumption that anybody who wants to question mass immigration in any way must be a moron. It assumes that certain society-changing policies successive governments have adopted without a mandate should be sealed off from criticism.
No it isn't, its dangerous, because it starts from the assumption that anybody who wants to question mass immigration in any way must be a moron. It assumes that certain society-changing policies successive governments have adopted without a mandate should be sealed off from criticism.
In short, it is the reason we have UKIP.
Wasting your breath Taffys the tories, labour and lib dem shills on here are busily engaged in putting their fingers in their ears and alteranating shouts of UKIP filthy racists with shouts of lalala I cant hear you
Shiney2 I would love to see Salmond's face on Friday if UKIP picks up its first Scottish MEP. YES has spent the last month promising the Scots will be free of the Tories for ever, and what do the Scots do, but elect an MEP from a party even more Thatcherite than the Tories!!
If you really think that that is going to happen, why not nip over to BetVictor, where you can get a lovely 7/4 on UKIP picking up a Scottish MEP. How much have you got on?
Best prices - UKIP to win a Scottish MEP
Yes 7/4 (BetVictor) No 1/2 (Ladbrokes)
Farage thinks its 1/100!
Yes, I noticed that. Not terribly convinced myself, but 7/4 might be worth 50 quid?
I really wouldnt know. Wonder what makes him so certain?
No idea. All the published polling points to UKIP narrowly missing a Scottish MEP. In some polls it ain't even narrowly.
It all depends on the LAB and CON vote. If UKIP can squeeze SLAB below 20% or SCON below 12% then they just might be in with a shout. But both are very, very tall orders!
Stone the crows, I go away for two days and polling becomes tres interesting.
Obviously the most important polling of the weekend was the ICM Wisdom Index (which ICM said was the most accurate polling at the last GE) which put the Tories on 31.4 per cent, to Labour’s 30.7 per cent.
Re which pollster is going to get the Euros right and which ones are going to get them wrong, there is a third possibility, they could all be wrong.
Crikey, reading your post without my glasses on and I saw your opening as "Stone the corgis". Set my heart a little tremble, Mr Eagles coming out in the republican cause
P.S. HMtQ was well set with her corgis long before she came to the throne. Too late for Charles but would it be worthwhile for the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge to get seriously into Spaniels? Or maybe cats - not pedigree beasts just some moggies that flop around and they are pleased to see and be photographed with etc. Osborne's turn around, such as it is, seems to date from the time that the press published details about his lady cat and her battles with Larry (who Cameron pretends is his cat but nobody believes him).
In 2009, ComRes was the closest pollster to the actual election results.
(as an aside, when I went to the Breibart website it had an advert for asian girls available for marriage. Is that Breitbart or just the SeanT effect?)
I think that's probably your browsing history. We won't tell!
The two are in no ways comparable. One was to free a temple occupied by armed men, the other , at best, looking the other way while over a thousand Muslims were slaughtered. I use "at best" advisedly. One could say conniving and organising.
Stone the crows, I go away for two days and polling becomes tres interesting.
Obviously the most important polling of the weekend was the ICM Wisdom Index (which ICM said was the most accurate polling at the last GE) which put the Tories on 31.4 per cent, to Labour’s 30.7 per cent.
Re which pollster is going to get the Euros right and which ones are going to get them wrong, there is a third possibility, they could all be wrong.
Crikey, reading your post without my glasses on and I saw your opening as "Stone the corgis". Set my heart a little tremble, Mr Eagles coming out in the republican cause
P.S. HMtQ was well set with her corgis long before she came to the throne. Too late for Charles but would it be worthwhile for the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge to get seriously into Spaniels? Or maybe cats - not pedigree beasts just some moggies that flop around and they are pleased to see and be photographed with etc. Osborne's turn around, such as it is, seems to date from the time that the press published details about his lady cat and her battles with Larry (who Cameron pretends is his cat but nobody believes him).
Pembrokeshire Corgis are the only dogs I really like.
Do you think the nation-building that took place in Germany and in Japan after WW2 was 'stupid'.
Do you think the reluctance to nation-build in Iraq after the removal of Saddam was wise?
We didn't go to war to nation-build, we did so to defeat an aggressive enemy that was an existential threat. Having defeated, invaded and occupied the belligerents, yes you make the best of it.
Mistakes were made after the removal of Saddam (although maybe the biggest one was not to go after him after the Gulf War). From a couple of friends who work in UK defence, I believe our view was that the Americans shouldn't have disbanded Saddam's army, for starters.
I also wonder why the Americans didn't at some point abandon the Shah and support Khomeini, might have made the middle east quite a different place.
The two are in no ways comparable. One was to free a temple occupied by armed men, the other , at best, looking the other way while over a thousand Muslims were slaughtered. I use "at best" advisedly. One could say conniving and organising.
The "blood on hand"s I referred to was AFTER Indira G's assassination. DO keep up!
Shiney2 We will see on Thursday if Scots are beginning to ditch Salmond for Farage
With Salmond emitting squeaky noises re UKIP over the last few days, I'd say they are already registering with the separatists. If the success is real I wonder if BetterTogether will maintain the (selfdefeating) position re UKIP of the YES to AV campaign.
"A wannabe UK Independence Party (UKIP) councillor called for Russian militia to be shipped into Britain to “clean up our city centres”.
As always the press never get things right. It seems he actually said "cossacks", who might be annoyed to be lumped together as Russian. Although they inhabited a variety of modern day regions, I believe they were predominantly based in Ukraine (principally) and some parts of Southern Russia. Did the Echo assume its readers wouldn't understand what cossacks were?
I read the Echo occasionally and it's no worse than most of the press but being press, they'll always print a story first and the facts second. The best example of pure ignorance was in the sixties when the Sun ran an article about a squaddie who died when his blood boiled on a training run. His body temperature rose above 100 degrees and as all Sun reporters know - that's the boiling point of water.
My rule of thumb is not to believe any story in a newspaper unless corroborated.
Oh, and I'm sure you could trawl through many Ukip twitter accounts (or what have you) and discover idiotic statements. And the same goes for any party.
No doubt it was a political activist who did the research - newspapers like being spoon-fed - but ask why they would spend all this time on such work. Labour in Merseyside have spent all their resources attacking Ukip this month - they must be worried.
Yes Ukip have a good supply of crackpots but that's a given. However, some of their more odd statements still strike a chord, and that's what the mainstream parties can't understand.
@IanAustinMP: How would you feel if you'd spent two days defending Farage's Romanian outburst & attacking his critics, only for him to admit he was wrong?
- £2 billion project to buy new fighter jets (from Sweden) rejected by 53-47%. Switzerland is traditionally pro-army, but voters felt unconvinced that there was an enemy to use them against. - Minimum wage rejected by 78-21%. The "free market" argument won easily. - A ban on paedophiles having jobs in education was approved, against the Government's argument that judges should decide from case to case.
As usual, voters declined to vote precisely on party lines, so the fighter planes failed to get all the centre-right parties' voters and the minimum wage failed to get all the centre-left's. As an established system rather than the occasional sop, it's quite attractive.
@IanAustinMP: How would you feel if you'd spent two days defending Farage's Romanian outburst & attacking his critics, only for him to admit he was wrong?
Have you watched the video? He didn't admit he was wrong
Do you think the nation-building that took place in Germany and in Japan after WW2 was 'stupid'.
Do you think the reluctance to nation-build in Iraq after the removal of Saddam was wise?
We didn't go to war to nation-build, we did so to defeat an aggressive enemy that was an existential threat. Having defeated, invaded and occupied the belligerents, yes you make the best of it.
Mistakes were made after the removal of Saddam (although maybe the biggest one was not to go after him after the Gulf War). From a couple of friends who work in UK defence, I believe our view was that the Americans shouldn't have disbanded Saddam's army, for starters.
I also wonder why the Americans didn't at some point abandon the Shah and support Khomeini, might have made the middle east quite a different place.
Do you think the nation-building that took place in Germany and in Japan after WW2 was 'stupid'.
Do you think the reluctance to nation-build in Iraq after the removal of Saddam was wise?
We didn't go to war to nation-build, we did so to defeat an aggressive enemy that was an existential threat. Having defeated, invaded and occupied the belligerents, yes you make the best of it.
Mistakes were made after the removal of Saddam (although maybe the biggest one was not to go after him after the Gulf War). From a couple of friends who work in UK defence, I believe our view was that the Americans shouldn't have disbanded Saddam's army, for starters.
I also wonder why the Americans didn't at some point abandon the Shah and support Khomeini, might have made the middle east quite a different place.
Do you think the nation-building that took place in Germany and in Japan after WW2 was 'stupid'.
Do you think the reluctance to nation-build in Iraq after the removal of Saddam was wise?
We didn't go to war to nation-build, we did so to defeat an aggressive enemy that was an existential threat. Having defeated, invaded and occupied the belligerents, yes you make the best of it.
Mistakes were made after the removal of Saddam (although maybe the biggest one was not to go after him after the Gulf War). From a couple of friends who work in UK defence, I believe our view was that the Americans shouldn't have disbanded Saddam's army, for starters.
I also wonder why the Americans didn't at some point abandon the Shah and support Khomeini, might have made the middle east quite a different place.
But that wasn't the question I asked you, John.
I think it's fairly clear my answer was "no".
Hard to see how any sensible person could think otherwise, but then you did say you thought nation-building was 'stupid'.
Stuart Dickson UKIP would probably win the LDs seat, Sunil/Surbiton In neither case were Modi or Gandhi directly responsible. Anyway, off to see Yves St Lauren
Do you think the nation-building that took place in Germany and in Japan after WW2 was 'stupid'.
Do you think the reluctance to nation-build in Iraq after the removal of Saddam was wise?
We didn't go to war to nation-build, we did so to defeat an aggressive enemy that was an existential threat. Having defeated, invaded and occupied the belligerents, yes you make the best of it.
Mistakes were made after the removal of Saddam (although maybe the biggest one was not to go after him after the Gulf War). From a couple of friends who work in UK defence, I believe our view was that the Americans shouldn't have disbanded Saddam's army, for starters.
I also wonder why the Americans didn't at some point abandon the Shah and support Khomeini, might have made the middle east quite a different place.
But that wasn't the question I asked you, John.
I think it's fairly clear my answer was "no".
Hard to see how any sensible person could think otherwise, but then you did say you thought nation-building was 'stupid'.
I guess you meant 'sometimes stupid.' ;-)
More "as a casus belli". Trying to make the distinction between neocon and small-c conservative reasons for going to war.
- £2 billion project to buy new fighter jets (from Sweden) rejected by 53-47%. Switzerland is traditionally pro-army, but voters felt unconvinced that there was an enemy to use them against. - Minimum wage rejected by 78-21%. The "free market" argument won easily. - A ban on paedophiles having jobs in education was approved, against the Government's argument that judges should decide from case to case.
As usual, voters declined to vote precisely on party lines, so the fighter planes failed to get all the centre-right parties' voters and the minimum wage failed to get all the centre-left's. As an established system rather than the occasional sop, it's quite attractive.
@politicshome: This evening Mr Farage has acknowledged that he should have phrased his response better, but refused to row back on his claims about Romanian immigrants. http://t.co/TXIT29x5IH
@politicshome: This evening Mr Farage has acknowledged that he should have phrased his response better, but refused to row back on his claims about Romanian immigrants. http://t.co/TXIT29x5IH
There fixed it for you.
Beginning to see what young timmy saw. Never mind..
@hugorifkind: Hey, Nige? If it's ok to say Romanians are "more likely" to be criminals, is it also okay to say Ukippers are "more likely" to be racist?
In 2009, ComRes was the closest pollster to the actual election results.
(as an aside, when I went to the Breibart website it had an advert for asian girls available for marriage. Is that Breitbart or just the SeanT effect?)
I think that's probably your browsing history. We won't tell!
Nah... Couldn't be that... I have my computer set up to automatically clear my browsing history...
(It's only been pb, coffeehouse and guido today anyway...honest)
Do you think the nation-building that took place in Germany and in Japan after WW2 was 'stupid'.
Do you think the reluctance to nation-build in Iraq after the removal of Saddam was wise?
We didn't go to war to nation-build, we did so to defeat an aggressive enemy that was an existential threat. Having defeated, invaded and occupied the belligerents, yes you make the best of it.
Mistakes were made after the removal of Saddam (although maybe the biggest one was not to go after him after the Gulf War). From a couple of friends who work in UK defence, I believe our view was that the Americans shouldn't have disbanded Saddam's army, for starters.
I also wonder why the Americans didn't at some point abandon the Shah and support Khomeini, might have made the middle east quite a different place.
But that wasn't the question I asked you, John.
I think it's fairly clear my answer was "no".
Hard to see how any sensible person could think otherwise, but then you did say you thought nation-building was 'stupid'.
I guess you meant 'sometimes stupid.' ;-)
More "as a casus belli". Trying to make the distinction between neocon and small-c conservative reasons for going to war.
Perhaps, but that wasn't how the proposition was originally framed.
It was the 'nation-building is stupid' notion that jarred, on account of the major examples indicating that it can be anything but.
Stuart Dickson UKIP would probably win the LDs seat, Sunil/Surbiton In neither case were Modi or Gandhi directly responsible. Anyway, off to see Yves St Lauren
Given that Romanians make up 0.002% of the population, is it necessarily a positive that they make up 0.6% of the prison population?
Facts? Let's see. 0.002% of 63,705,000 is 1274. Are there really only 1274 Romanians in the UK? What's all the fuss about then?
Maths?
It's 87,000 ( I rounded it up to 0.002 from 0.0013)
I make Woodpecker's maths correct 1 percent of 63 million would be 630,000 so .1% would be 63,000, .01% would be 6,300 and .002% percent would be 1260. ... also you don't round .0013 up to .002 you round it down to .001.
As always the press never get things right. It seems he actually said "cossacks", who might be annoyed to be lumped together as Russian. Although they inhabited a variety of modern day regions, I believe they were predominantly based in Ukraine (principally) and some parts of Southern Russia. Did the Echo assume its readers wouldn't understand what cossacks were?
I suspect it was by accident, but the Echo was actually right!
The Cossacks were Russian militia/mercenaries sent into the borderlands of Lithuania ("Ukraine") in order to harrass the Khanate of Crimea...
So it's ok to be racist just not to look racist. Christ almighty.
No it's not ok but he wasnt being racist.
We have already seen on here today that Romaninans in the uk are over represented in prison by a factor of 460 and Farage was making that point. Also Ronanians are generally the same race as Farage
@IanAustinMP: How would you feel if you'd spent two days defending Farage's Romanian outburst & attacking his critics, only for him to admit he was wrong?
Have you watched the video? He didn't admit he was wrong
"You know what? Sometimes, we get things wrong..." So what has UKIP got wrong, if not Nige's less than glorious day at the office?
ave you watched the video? He didn't admit he was wrong
Farage does look like he needs a break. Perhaps the way he has run UKIP to date is counting against him?
The fans of Doctor Who will understand this
"Don't you think he looks tired?"
Ugh, don't remind me. One of the more dickish, silly things the new Doctor did (in fairness I haven't seen the last few series), that particular moment.
Labour, Conservative and Liberal Democrat politicians have committed Britain to “slavery inside the EU dictatorship” and should be punished by death, Gordon Ferguson [UKIP candiate for the Cambridge ward of Southport, Lancashire] told prospective voters in a letter delivered ahead of Thursday's council elections.
Anybody who votes for those parties is “guilty by association of treason against our nation”, he added.
Mr Ferguson wrote: “The Lib-Lab-Cons have conspired with a foreign power, the EU, and are all thereby guilty of treason. They have sold Britain, which is the fifth largest economy, illegally into increasing slavery inside the EU dictatorship. Those responsible should be hung by the neck until dead.”
He went on: “As likely as not, however, they will never be brought to account because our senior police, Crown Prosecution Service and judges are almost all exclusively freemasons, and Britain’s courts have been utterly corrupt for many years. They are almost all in the pocket of the EU.
Mr Ferguson ... added: “If you vote for any of the three Lib- Lab- Con- parties you will be aiding and abetting them and you will also be guilty by association of treason against our nation. No-one should knowingly support a corrupt organisation.”
Is M'Lud available? Is this your understanding of applicable law in the jurisdiction of England & Wales.
I am worried that if I vote Conservative on Thursday I may be "hanged by the neck until dead".
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"any sensible person would just leave them alone. "
Shushhh!
Rightmove report that asking prices for houses in Greater London have increased in price by 41.8% since October 2007, i.e. over the past 6.5 years.
Oh and congratulations and thank you for informing us that you have a bigger house than your neighbour!
I'm calling the Police.
http://bit.ly/1p3oLqa
Given that Romanians make up 0.002% of the population, is it necessarily a positive that they make up 0.6% of the prison population?
http://uk.search.yahoo.com/search?fr=mcafee&type=A111GB128&p=nwa+the+police
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/05/18/UKIP-61-percent-eastern-region
In 2009, ComRes was the closest pollster to the actual election results.
It might still prove a good idea, of course, but having supported the Iraq invasion partly with "better government for the people there" in mind, I've grown wary. Essentially we pick a side, kill people who support the other side, and then sooner or later lose interest and wander off. I don't say it's not sometimes better than doing nothing, but we do it too often.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giCQDbz24nY&feature=youtu.be
Interesting test on voting suitability. I came over as a weak match for all - except for the Greens. I'll vote Ukip for the first time this month - I like to stick up for the underdog.
(as an aside, when I went to the Breibart website it had an advert for asian girls available for marriage. Is that Breitbart or just the SeanT effect?)
Chopin wrote this for such an occasion - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnOjL5Fzp-s
UKIP 61
That's quite encouraging..
Gaddafi waged war on us for many years, we should have had him a long time ago. Revenge is a dish best served cold etc etc.
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/wannabe-liverpool-ukip-councillor-wants-7134800
Obviously the most important polling of the weekend was the ICM Wisdom Index (which ICM said was the most accurate polling at the last GE) which put the Tories on 31.4 per cent, to Labour’s 30.7 per cent.
Re which pollster is going to get the Euros right and which ones are going to get them wrong, there is a third possibility, they could all be wrong.
No it isn't, its dangerous, because it starts from the assumption that anybody who wants to question mass immigration in any way must be a moron. It assumes that certain society-changing policies successive governments have adopted without a mandate should be sealed off from criticism.
In short, it is the reason we have UKIP.
Got any hunches? I think the labour polls percentage bears no relation to the numbers that will actually turn out to vote for ed on polling day.
It is (good) satirical comedy.
The video was never designed to save the world.
@HYUFD1 @id2talk @OwenJones84 @gsurya Congress also had blood on hands in 1984 in wake of Mrs. Gandhi's murder by guards who were Sikh...
Based on 5-10 voting intention, the Conservatives lead UKIP lead Lab in far more plausible 36/32/23.
John
Do you think the nation-building that took place in Germany and in Japan after WW2 was 'stupid'.
Do you think the reluctance to nation-build in Iraq after the removal of Saddam was wise?
@WikiGuido: Farage tells ITV he "regrets" his comments on Romanians on LBC, says he was "tired out" and "sometimes we get things wrong"
It all depends on the LAB and CON vote. If UKIP can squeeze SLAB below 20% or SCON below 12% then they just might be in with a shout. But both are very, very tall orders!
P.S. HMtQ was well set with her corgis long before she came to the throne. Too late for Charles but would it be worthwhile for the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge to get seriously into Spaniels? Or maybe cats - not pedigree beasts just some moggies that flop around and they are pleased to see and be photographed with etc. Osborne's turn around, such as it is, seems to date from the time that the press published details about his lady cat and her battles with Larry (who Cameron pretends is his cat but nobody believes him).
http://www.itv.com/news/story/2014-05-17/farage-defends-fair-minded-romania-comments/
To celebrate, 16 tonnes of fish have been donated to fish & chip shops across the UK, and will be sold for just 99p."
http://www.itv.com/news/wales/update/2014-05-17/fish-chip-shops-in-wales-celebrate-norway-day-with-99p-portions/
"UKIP leader stands by his assertion that people have a right to be concerned if a group of Romanians move in next door"
http://www.ukip.org/ukip_leader_stands_by_his_assertion_that_people_have_a_right_to_be_concerned_if_a_group_of_romanians_move_in_next_door
Mistakes were made after the removal of Saddam (although maybe the biggest one was not to go after him after the Gulf War). From a couple of friends who work in UK defence, I believe our view was that the Americans shouldn't have disbanded Saddam's army, for starters.
I also wonder why the Americans didn't at some point abandon the Shah and support Khomeini, might have made the middle east quite a different place.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_anti-Sikh_riots
From your story,
"A wannabe UK Independence Party (UKIP) councillor called for Russian militia to be shipped into Britain to “clean up our city centres”.
As always the press never get things right. It seems he actually said "cossacks", who might be annoyed to be lumped together as Russian. Although they inhabited a variety of modern day regions, I believe they were predominantly based in Ukraine (principally) and some parts of Southern Russia. Did the Echo assume its readers wouldn't understand what cossacks were?
I read the Echo occasionally and it's no worse than most of the press but being press, they'll always print a story first and the facts second. The best example of pure ignorance was in the sixties when the Sun ran an article about a squaddie who died when his blood boiled on a training run. His body temperature rose above 100 degrees and as all Sun reporters know - that's the boiling point of water.
My rule of thumb is not to believe any story in a newspaper unless corroborated.
Oh, and I'm sure you could trawl through many Ukip twitter accounts (or what have you) and discover idiotic statements. And the same goes for any party.
No doubt it was a political activist who did the research - newspapers like being spoon-fed - but ask why they would spend all this time on such work. Labour in Merseyside have spent all their resources attacking Ukip this month - they must be worried.
Yes Ukip have a good supply of crackpots but that's a given. However, some of their more odd statements still strike a chord, and that's what the mainstream parties can't understand.
- £2 billion project to buy new fighter jets (from Sweden) rejected by 53-47%. Switzerland is traditionally pro-army, but voters felt unconvinced that there was an enemy to use them against.
- Minimum wage rejected by 78-21%. The "free market" argument won easily.
- A ban on paedophiles having jobs in education was approved, against the Government's argument that judges should decide from case to case.
As usual, voters declined to vote precisely on party lines, so the fighter planes failed to get all the centre-right parties' voters and the minimum wage failed to get all the centre-left's. As an established system rather than the occasional sop, it's quite attractive.
Have you watched the video? He didn't admit he was wrong
Farage does look like he needs a break. Perhaps the way he has run UKIP to date is counting against him?
"Don't you think he looks tired?"
They put up Suzanne Evans on Sun Politics instead of Nigel. She was very good!
Hard to see how any sensible person could think otherwise, but then you did say you thought nation-building was 'stupid'.
I guess you meant 'sometimes stupid.' ;-)
It's 87,000 ( I rounded it up to 0.002 from 0.0013)
(It's only been pb, coffeehouse and guido today anyway...honest)
He didnt admit he was wrong
It was the 'nation-building is stupid' notion that jarred, on account of the major examples indicating that it can be anything but.
Say hello to him from me.
... also you don't round .0013 up to .002 you round it down to .001.
Maths Indeed!
The Cossacks were Russian militia/mercenaries sent into the borderlands of Lithuania ("Ukraine") in order to harrass the Khanate of Crimea...
We have already seen on here today that Romaninans in the uk are over represented in prison by a factor of 460 and Farage was making that point. Also Ronanians are generally the same race as Farage
Labour, Conservative and Liberal Democrat politicians have committed Britain to “slavery inside the EU dictatorship” and should be punished by death, Gordon Ferguson [UKIP candiate for the Cambridge ward of Southport, Lancashire] told prospective voters in a letter delivered ahead of Thursday's council elections.
Anybody who votes for those parties is “guilty by association of treason against our nation”, he added.
Mr Ferguson wrote: “The Lib-Lab-Cons have conspired with a foreign power, the EU, and are all thereby guilty of treason. They have sold Britain, which is the fifth largest economy, illegally into increasing slavery inside the EU dictatorship. Those responsible should be hung by the neck until dead.”
He went on: “As likely as not, however, they will never be brought to account because our senior police, Crown Prosecution Service and judges are almost all exclusively freemasons, and Britain’s courts have been utterly corrupt for many years. They are almost all in the pocket of the EU.
Mr Ferguson ... added: “If you vote for any of the three Lib- Lab- Con- parties you will be aiding and abetting them and you will also be guilty by association of treason against our nation. No-one should knowingly support a corrupt organisation.”
Is M'Lud available? Is this your understanding of applicable law in the jurisdiction of England & Wales.
I am worried that if I vote Conservative on Thursday I may be "hanged by the neck until dead".
Source and full article: http://bit.ly/1geSMmZ