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  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053

    Mr. K, it's utterly baffling as to why some mass murderers seem to get a free pass from some people.

    No mystery to me. Socialism, was/is supposed to be the panacea for all mankind's i'll's, and anything that casts a blemish on that utopia must be suppressed.

  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    New UKIP poster.. does it work?

    Looks a bit like Farage has gagged the other three to me!

    mummygirl ‏@mummygirl 1h
    pic.twitter.com/hbnPKDlgsT
  • MrJonesMrJones Posts: 3,523
    Will the experts in supply and demand who pretend the housing crisis is just a question of supply and nothing to do with importing millions of new people acknowledge that building more houses will have **zero** effect on price unless they are built at a rate faster than the political class are importing new people.
  • MrJonesMrJones Posts: 3,523
    isam said:

    New UKIP poster.. does it work?

    Looks a bit like Farage has gagged the other three to me!

    mummygirl ‏@mummygirl 1h
    pic.twitter.com/hbnPKDlgsT

    It looks like he's gagged them and is smirking about it - which is funny and works well imo.
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 39,668
    MrJones said:

    taffys said:

    Before 1997 everyone just rubbed along together.

    Even if the 'problem' that the kippers identify actually exists, I completely fail to see how UKIP's get out of Europe policy changes it one iota.

    Ukippers complain about immigration and then give examples of communities that would be utterly unaffected by any of their polices.

    Ask them ,like I have today repeatedly, and all you get is silence

    Because the battle is really over the ideology of political correctness which spawned out of the corpse of Marxism and is designed to destroy all national groups and nation-states. The globalist right e.g. Con, are going along with it because it helps them get an unlimited supply of cheap labour hence the Tory "modernizers".

    The refusal of the political class to even attempt to maintain national and social cohesion in this country is part of the same ideology that wants them to dissolve Britain into a corrupt, authoritarian monster state.

    If only we could still discriminate against people on the basis of their ethnicity, nationality, sex and sexual orientation everything would be so much better.

  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    MikeK said:

    Double standards are common in todays Britain. The following is but one example:

    http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/jamesbloodworth/2014/05/ive-just-seen-nazi-banners-in-trafalgar-square-well-almost/

    Incredible really
  • MrJonesMrJones Posts: 3,523

    MrJones said:

    taffys said:

    Before 1997 everyone just rubbed along together.

    Even if the 'problem' that the kippers identify actually exists, I completely fail to see how UKIP's get out of Europe policy changes it one iota.

    Ukippers complain about immigration and then give examples of communities that would be utterly unaffected by any of their polices.

    Ask them ,like I have today repeatedly, and all you get is silence

    Because the battle is really over the ideology of political correctness which spawned out of the corpse of Marxism and is designed to destroy all national groups and nation-states. The globalist right e.g. Con, are going along with it because it helps them get an unlimited supply of cheap labour hence the Tory "modernizers".

    The refusal of the political class to even attempt to maintain national and social cohesion in this country is part of the same ideology that wants them to dissolve Britain into a corrupt, authoritarian monster state.

    If only we could still discriminate against people on the basis of their ethnicity, nationality, sex and sexual orientation everything would be so much better.

    The Inequalities bill explicitly does that.
  • volcanopetevolcanopete Posts: 2,078
    1000 Guineas.Bloody French won it.Get out of Europe immediately.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    MrJones said:

    taffys said:

    Before 1997 everyone just rubbed along together.

    Even if the 'problem' that the kippers identify actually exists, I completely fail to see how UKIP's get out of Europe policy changes it one iota.

    Ukippers complain about immigration and then give examples of communities that would be utterly unaffected by any of their polices.

    Ask them ,like I have today repeatedly, and all you get is silence

    Because the battle is really over the ideology of political correctness which spawned out of the corpse of Marxism and is designed to destroy all national groups and nation-states. The globalist right e.g. Con, are going along with it because it helps them get an unlimited supply of cheap labour hence the Tory "modernizers".

    The refusal of the political class to even attempt to maintain national and social cohesion in this country is part of the same ideology that wants them to dissolve Britain into a corrupt, authoritarian monster state.
    It's why less than half on people living in London being white British, almost a quarter not having English as their first language, street signs using a foreign alphabet etc are worth no more than a shrug of the shoulders to people who would no doubt reel out a load of nation loving platitudes if pulled on it.

    If it happened anywhere else in the world it would rightly be seen as a tragedy
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 39,668
    edited May 2014
    MrJones said:

    MrJones said:

    taffys said:

    Before 1997 everyone just rubbed along together.

    Even if the 'problem' that the kippers identify actually exists, I completely fail to see how UKIP's get out of Europe policy changes it one iota.

    Ukippers complain about immigration and then give examples of communities that would be utterly unaffected by any of their polices.

    Ask them ,like I have today repeatedly, and all you get is silence

    Because the battle is really over the ideology of political correctness which spawned out of the corpse of Marxism and is designed to destroy all national groups and nation-states. The globalist right e.g. Con, are going along with it because it helps them get an unlimited supply of cheap labour hence the Tory "modernizers".

    The refusal of the political class to even attempt to maintain national and social cohesion in this country is part of the same ideology that wants them to dissolve Britain into a corrupt, authoritarian monster state.

    If only we could still discriminate against people on the basis of their ethnicity, nationality, sex and sexual orientation everything would be so much better.

    The Inequalities bill explicitly does that.

    Too right. It makes it illegal to employ heterosexual, male, white English people. We've been forced to get rid of all of ours, me included. It's a nightmare. I blame the BBC and the EU.
  • Stuart_DicksonStuart_Dickson Posts: 3,557
    Sturgeon: if Cameron will debate with Farage, why not with Salmond?

    Deputy First Minister Nicola Sturgeon said: "It's astonishing that David Cameron is happy to have a head-to-head debate with Nigel Farage - whose party doesn't have a single seat in the House of Commons - but continues to run scared of a debate on the future of Scotland with First Minister Alex Salmond.

    "We now know he is happy to debate with the leader of Ukip who constantly lose their election deposits in Scotland, but is not willing to debate with Scotland's democratically elected First Minister. That begs the question what is he afraid of?

    "It was reported on Saturday that the Prime Minister is to visit Scotland more often over the next few months in order to campaign for a No vote. Why on earth is he not happy to publically debate his position? Given he is now happy to debate (with) a wide range of politicians in England, the Prime Minister should stop snubbing Scotland."

    http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/referendum-news/sturgeon-if-cameron-will-debate-with-farage-why-not-with-salmond.1399214911
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    Good to see Arsenal improving on last season, albeit unspectacularly.

    More points, Champs League football secured with a game to spare, and a Cup final to look forward to.
  • MrJonesMrJones Posts: 3,523

    MrJones said:

    MrJones said:

    taffys said:

    Before 1997 everyone just rubbed along together.

    Even if the 'problem' that the kippers identify actually exists, I completely fail to see how UKIP's get out of Europe policy changes it one iota.

    Ukippers complain about immigration and then give examples of communities that would be utterly unaffected by any of their polices.

    Ask them ,like I have today repeatedly, and all you get is silence

    Because the battle is really over the ideology of political correctness which spawned out of the corpse of Marxism and is designed to destroy all national groups and nation-states. The globalist right e.g. Con, are going along with it because it helps them get an unlimited supply of cheap labour hence the Tory "modernizers".

    The refusal of the political class to even attempt to maintain national and social cohesion in this country is part of the same ideology that wants them to dissolve Britain into a corrupt, authoritarian monster state.

    If only we could still discriminate against people on the basis of their ethnicity, nationality, sex and sexual orientation everything would be so much better.

    The Inequalities bill explicitly does that.

    Too right. It makes it illegal to employ heterosexual, male, white Englishmen. We've been forced to get rid of all of ours, me included. It's a nightmare. I blame the BBC and the EU.
    The Inequality Bill makes people who aren't in one of a list of protected categories into 2nd class citizens. The argument is that this is balanced out by majority status.

    So where's the clause giving people who aren't in any of the protected categories the same protected status in areas where they are the minority?

    As long as that doesn't exist the inequality bill is exactly that.
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 39,668
    isam said:

    MrJones said:

    taffys said:

    Before 1997 everyone just rubbed along together.

    Even if the 'problem' that the kippers identify actually exists, I completely fail to see how UKIP's get out of Europe policy changes it one iota.

    Ukippers complain about immigration and then give examples of communities that would be utterly unaffected by any of their polices.

    Ask them ,like I have today repeatedly, and all you get is silence

    Because the battle is really over the ideology of political correctness which spawned out of the corpse of Marxism and is designed to destroy all national groups and nation-states. The globalist right e.g. Con, are going along with it because it helps them get an unlimited supply of cheap labour hence the Tory "modernizers".

    The refusal of the political class to even attempt to maintain national and social cohesion in this country is part of the same ideology that wants them to dissolve Britain into a corrupt, authoritarian monster state.
    It's why less than half on people living in London being white British, almost a quarter not having English as their first language, street signs using a foreign alphabet etc are worth no more than a shrug of the shoulders to people who would no doubt reel out a load of nation loving platitudes if pulled on it.

    If it happened anywhere else in the world it would rightly be seen as a tragedy

    It's true. When Japanese people see English language place names on their stations they weep. Same with the Chinese in Beijing, Shanghai and Hong Kong. I have seen grown men break down in tears when they see the bilingual street signs in Chinatown in San Francisco.

  • MrJonesMrJones Posts: 3,523
    isam said:

    MrJones said:

    taffys said:

    Before 1997 everyone just rubbed along together.

    Even if the 'problem' that the kippers identify actually exists, I completely fail to see how UKIP's get out of Europe policy changes it one iota.

    Ukippers complain about immigration and then give examples of communities that would be utterly unaffected by any of their polices.

    Ask them ,like I have today repeatedly, and all you get is silence

    Because the battle is really over the ideology of political correctness which spawned out of the corpse of Marxism and is designed to destroy all national groups and nation-states. The globalist right e.g. Con, are going along with it because it helps them get an unlimited supply of cheap labour hence the Tory "modernizers".

    The refusal of the political class to even attempt to maintain national and social cohesion in this country is part of the same ideology that wants them to dissolve Britain into a corrupt, authoritarian monster state.
    It's why less than half on people living in London being white British, almost a quarter not having English as their first language, street signs using a foreign alphabet etc are worth no more than a shrug of the shoulders to people who would no doubt reel out a load of nation loving platitudes if pulled on it.

    If it happened anywhere else in the world it would rightly be seen as a tragedy
    zactly zo
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 39,668
    MrJones said:

    MrJones said:

    MrJones said:

    taffys said:

    Before 1997 everyone just rubbed along together.

    Even if the 'problem' that the kippers identify actually exists, I completely fail to see how UKIP's get out of Europe policy changes it one iota.

    Ukippers complain about immigration and then give examples of communities that would be utterly unaffected by any of their polices.

    Ask them ,like I have today repeatedly, and all you get is silence

    Because the battle is really over the ideology of political correctness which spawned out of the corpse of Marxism and is designed to destroy all national groups and nation-states. The globalist right e.g. Con, are going along with it because it helps them get an unlimited supply of cheap labour hence the Tory "modernizers".

    The refusal of the political class to even attempt to maintain national and social cohesion in this country is part of the same ideology that wants them to dissolve Britain into a corrupt, authoritarian monster state.

    If only we could still discriminate against people on the basis of their ethnicity, nationality, sex and sexual orientation everything would be so much better.

    The Inequalities bill explicitly does that.

    Too right. It makes it illegal to employ heterosexual, male, white Englishmen. We've been forced to get rid of all of ours, me included. It's a nightmare. I blame the BBC and the EU.
    The Inequality Bill makes people who aren't in one of a list of protected categories into 2nd class citizens. The argument is that this is balanced out by majority status.

    So where's the clause giving people who aren't in any of the protected categories the same protected status in areas where they are the minority?

    As long as that doesn't exist the inequality bill is exactly that.

    Bang on. It's an utter disgrace. I hate being a second class citizen.

  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 43,457
    After all this talk today about foreign languages on political leaflets and signs, it's a coincidence that we've had a leaflet through the postbox this afternoon from a candidate for the May 22nd elections. On it are three short sections of foreign script - I think I can tell Chinese and Arabic, but the not the third.

    So I wonder which of the 'political class' had sent this.

    Oh dear, it's a UKIP candidate for the local elections, Lister Wilson.

    Good on him for being inclusive. Although perhaps I should not say that until I can see a translation! ;-)
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,950
    Mr. Dickson, Sturgeon's being a silly bugger, as you well know.

    Morris Dancer's concise list of differences pertinent to the debating questions regarding Cameron debating with Farage at the General Election, and Cameron debating with Salmond in the Scottish independence referendum:

    1. Farage is polling consistently around 15-20% in the polls. Salmond is not.
    2. Farage and Cameron both have votes in the General Election. Cameron does not have a vote in the Scottish referendum.
    3. Farage and Cameron both lead nationwide parties. Salmond does not.
    4. The Scottish referendum is a choice by Scots, for Scots. Cameron is not a Scot. Having him debate would be like having a Lancastrian on the 'Unionist' side in a Yorkshire independence debate.

    Salmond just wants to have a pop at an evil Englishman to paint No as the English Bastard Tory Thatcher side and Yes as the Braveheart Kilts Patriotic Scottish side.
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 39,668
    isam said:

    Good to see Arsenal improving on last season, albeit unspectacularly.

    More points, Champs League football secured with a game to spare, and a Cup final to look forward to.

    They are part of the conspiracy - most of them are immigrants whose first language is not English and whose children do not have English as a first language. And how many of the ones born in Britain are white? Arsenal is a symbol of everything that is wrong with this country. Look at their manager, the bloke who owns them, the second biggest shareholder, the players. They are driving the white British out of that club and it stinks to high heaven.

  • anotherDaveanotherDave Posts: 6,746
    edited May 2014

    Sturgeon: if Cameron will debate with Farage, why not with Salmond?

    Perhaps Mr Cameron is intimidated by men with bigger moobs?
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118

    isam said:

    MrJones said:

    taffys said:

    Before 1997 everyone just rubbed along together.

    Even if the 'problem' that the kippers identify actually exists, I completely fail to see how UKIP's get out of Europe policy changes it one iota.

    Ukippers complain about immigration and then give examples of communities that would be utterly unaffected by any of their polices.

    Ask them ,like I have today repeatedly, and all you get is silence

    Because the battle is really over the ideology of political correctness which spawned out of the corpse of Marxism and is designed to destroy all national groups and nation-states. The globalist right e.g. Con, are going along with it because it helps them get an unlimited supply of cheap labour hence the Tory "modernizers".

    The refusal of the political class to even attempt to maintain national and social cohesion in this country is part of the same ideology that wants them to dissolve Britain into a corrupt, authoritarian monster state.
    It's why less than half on people living in London being white British, almost a quarter not having English as their first language, street signs using a foreign alphabet etc are worth no more than a shrug of the shoulders to people who would no doubt reel out a load of nation loving platitudes if pulled on it.

    If it happened anywhere else in the world it would rightly be seen as a tragedy

    It's true. When Japanese people see English language place names on their stations they weep. Same with the Chinese in Beijing, Shanghai and Hong Kong. I have seen grown men break down in tears when they see the bilingual street signs in Chinatown in San Francisco.

    Blimey that's probably the least funny thing I have ever read.

  • isamisam Posts: 41,118

    isam said:

    Good to see Arsenal improving on last season, albeit unspectacularly.

    More points, Champs League football secured with a game to spare, and a Cup final to look forward to.

    They are part of the conspiracy - most of them are immigrants whose first language is not English and whose children do not have English as a first language. And how many of the ones born in Britain are white? Arsenal is a symbol of everything that is wrong with this country. Look at their manager, the bloke who owns them, the second biggest shareholder, the players. They are driving the white British out of that club and it stinks to high heaven.

    That's a close second.

    Why do you bother? It's not funny
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    MrJones said:

    Will the experts in supply and demand who pretend the housing crisis is just a question of supply and nothing to do with importing millions of new people acknowledge that building more houses will have **zero** effect on price unless they are built at a rate faster than the political class are importing new people.

    No, becaused we'd be wrong. Price is a function of supply and demand. If supply increases prices will fall relative to what they had been if supply had continued to be constrained. Prices will only fall in absolute terms mutis mutandis if aggregate supply exceeds aggregate demand
  • Too right. It makes it illegal to employ heterosexual, male, white English people. We've been forced to get rid of all of ours, me included. It's a nightmare. I blame the BBC and the EU.

    It's easy to mock the position, but the Equalities Act 2010 is a thoroughly pernicious piece of legislation. Section 1 (fortunately not yet brought into force) imposes a duty on public sector bodies to reduce socio-economic 'inequalities of outcome' (hence it has been dubbed "socialism in one clause"). Part 1 of Chapter 11 (the public sector equality duty) is woefully drafted and unclear, needlessly tying up democratic decision making in judicial reviews. Chapter 2 of that Part allows for affirmative action in certain cases. Section 104 permits direct and indirect discrimination in the selection of election candidates until 2030 or later. On the one hand, the supporters of the Act claim it is needed to prevent discrimination. On the other hand, it entrenches discrimination on the statute book.

    In any event, the whole purpose of the legislation is to restrict rights to freedom of association and to freedom of contract. It should be repealed en bloc.
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 39,668
    isam said:

    isam said:

    MrJones said:

    taffys said:

    Before 1997 everyone just rubbed along together.

    Even if the 'problem' that the kippers identify actually exists, I completely fail to see how UKIP's get out of Europe policy changes it one iota.

    Ukippers complain about immigration and then give examples of communities that would be utterly unaffected by any of their polices.

    Ask them ,like I have today repeatedly, and all you get is silence

    Because the battle is really over the ideology of political correctness which spawned out of the corpse of Marxism and is designed to destroy all national groups and nation-states. The globalist right e.g. Con, are going along with it because it helps them get an unlimited supply of cheap labour hence the Tory "modernizers".

    The refusal of the political class to even attempt to maintain national and social cohesion in this country is part of the same ideology that wants them to dissolve Britain into a corrupt, authoritarian monster state.
    It's why less than half on people living in London being white British, almost a quarter not having English as their first language, street signs using a foreign alphabet etc are worth no more than a shrug of the shoulders to people who would no doubt reel out a load of nation loving platitudes if pulled on it.

    If it happened anywhere else in the world it would rightly be seen as a tragedy

    It's true. When Japanese people see English language place names on their stations they weep. Same with the Chinese in Beijing, Shanghai and Hong Kong. I have seen grown men break down in tears when they see the bilingual street signs in Chinatown in San Francisco.

    Blimey that's probably the least funny thing I have ever read.

    My heart weeps.

  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,514
    Charles said:

    MrJones said:

    Will the experts in supply and demand who pretend the housing crisis is just a question of supply and nothing to do with importing millions of new people acknowledge that building more houses will have **zero** effect on price unless they are built at a rate faster than the political class are importing new people.

    No, becaused we'd be wrong. Price is a function of supply and demand. If supply increases prices will fall relative to what they had been if supply had continued to be constrained. Prices will only fall in absolute terms mutis mutandis if aggregate supply exceeds aggregate demand
    So if you can grasp that how come Willetts can't ?
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,950
    Mr. Town, if it's the same piece of legislation I'm thinking of (and it sounds like it) I entirely agree. Legalising racial discrimination is indefensible, likewise sexual discrimination. People should be judged by the content of their character, not the colour of their skin.
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 39,668
    isam said:

    isam said:

    Good to see Arsenal improving on last season, albeit unspectacularly.

    More points, Champs League football secured with a game to spare, and a Cup final to look forward to.

    They are part of the conspiracy - most of them are immigrants whose first language is not English and whose children do not have English as a first language. And how many of the ones born in Britain are white? Arsenal is a symbol of everything that is wrong with this country. Look at their manager, the bloke who owns them, the second biggest shareholder, the players. They are driving the white British out of that club and it stinks to high heaven.

    That's a close second.

    Why do you bother? It's not funny

    Too right it's not. Arsenal are helping to destroy this country and everything it once stood for. They import non-English speaking immigrants, deny opportunities to white working class English lads and price real Londoners out of going to games so that they can sell seats to people who work for the BBC and other Europhile organisations.

  • Y0kelY0kel Posts: 2,307
    Adams Arrest: Reportedly due to be released tonight with a file sent to DPP.
  • TapestryTapestry Posts: 153
    Farage is a fracker - in favour of The Gassing of Britain. http://the-tap.blogspot.co.uk/2014/05/fracking-water-pollution-sinkholes.html
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,950
    Mr. Tapestry, good to see you on.
  • Mr. Town, if it's the same piece of legislation I'm thinking of (and it sounds like it) I entirely agree. Legalising racial discrimination is indefensible, likewise sexual discrimination. People should be judged by the content of their character, not the colour of their skin.

    It is rather reminiscent of the position in the United States. Until the decision of the Supreme Court in Brown (1954), the civil rights groups maintained that the 14th amendment required a legal order in which race, colour and previous condition of servitude played no part. It was the white supremacists in the South who insisted that discrimination in law was permissible if the result was the 'equal' treatment of the races. Now the position is reversed. The civil rights groups say that discrimination in law is necessary to achieve 'equal' treatment of the races.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118

    isam said:

    isam said:

    Good to see Arsenal improving on last season, albeit unspectacularly.

    More points, Champs League football secured with a game to spare, and a Cup final to look forward to.

    They are part of the conspiracy - most of them are immigrants whose first language is not English and whose children do not have English as a first language. And how many of the ones born in Britain are white? Arsenal is a symbol of everything that is wrong with this country. Look at their manager, the bloke who owns them, the second biggest shareholder, the players. They are driving the white British out of that club and it stinks to high heaven.

    That's a close second.

    Why do you bother? It's not funny

    Too right it's not. Arsenal are helping to destroy this country and everything it once stood for. They import non-English speaking immigrants, deny opportunities to white working class English lads and price real Londoners out of going to games so that they can sell seats to people who work for the BBC and other Europhile organisations.

    Oh well at least they done the double over Spurs, so I'll forgive them
  • MrJonesMrJones Posts: 3,523
    Charles said:

    MrJones said:

    Will the experts in supply and demand who pretend the housing crisis is just a question of supply and nothing to do with importing millions of new people acknowledge that building more houses will have **zero** effect on price unless they are built at a rate faster than the political class are importing new people.

    No, becaused we'd be wrong. Price is a function of supply and demand. If supply increases prices will fall relative to what they had been if supply had continued to be constrained. Prices will only fall in absolute terms mutis mutandis if aggregate supply exceeds aggregate demand
    So if the supply of something goes up 5% while the demand for it goes up 10% then the price drops?
  • MrJonesMrJones Posts: 3,523
    Beware of low-flying straw villages.
  • MikeK said:

    Mr. K, it's utterly baffling as to why some mass murderers seem to get a free pass from some people.

    No mystery to me. Socialism, was/is supposed to be the panacea for all mankind's i'll's, and anything that casts a blemish on that utopia must be suppressed.

    "i'll's" ..... I'm not usually a grammar pedant, but this has to be the most delicious use of apostrophes ever witnessed on PB.com!

  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 39,668
    isam said:

    isam said:

    isam said:

    Good to see Arsenal improving on last season, albeit unspectacularly.

    More points, Champs League football secured with a game to spare, and a Cup final to look forward to.

    They are part of the conspiracy - most of them are immigrants whose first language is not English and whose children do not have English as a first language. And how many of the ones born in Britain are white? Arsenal is a symbol of everything that is wrong with this country. Look at their manager, the bloke who owns them, the second biggest shareholder, the players. They are driving the white British out of that club and it stinks to high heaven.

    That's a close second.

    Why do you bother? It's not funny

    Too right it's not. Arsenal are helping to destroy this country and everything it once stood for. They import non-English speaking immigrants, deny opportunities to white working class English lads and price real Londoners out of going to games so that they can sell seats to people who work for the BBC and other Europhile organisations.

    Oh well at least they done the double over Spurs, so I'll forgive them

    British owned and managed Spurs beaten back by foreign owned and immigrant managed Arsenal. It is the story of this country. As you say, it is a tragedy.

  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 39,668
    edited May 2014
    MrJones said:

    Beware of low-flying straw villages.

    Spot on. They are full of immigrants and have been built by BBC executives, the EU and other members of the banksta elite to do down white English folk.

  • CD13CD13 Posts: 6,366
    I've just done the Sunday Times quiz = "How Ukip are you?"

    Mostly Cs so not ... not very.

    But they're missing the point. Anyone who pisses off so many arrogant people deserves my vote in the Euros, no matter what their politics.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 42,146
    FAO a PB Moderator, if one is around.

    I pm-ed you yesterday regarding Mick Pork's continuing non access to the site - you may have missed it. As he's blocked from even logging on via Vanilla he can't do it himself.
    Your last reply said it looked like he'd been caught in the spam trap and it could take anything from 5 minutes to hours for Vanilla to update once you'd rectified it. I'm assuming you didn't mean 72 hours, so if you can shed any light on the situation I'm sure he'd appreciate it.

    Thanks.
  • isam said:

    isam said:

    isam said:

    Good to see Arsenal improving on last season, albeit unspectacularly.

    More points, Champs League football secured with a game to spare, and a Cup final to look forward to.

    They are part of the conspiracy - most of them are immigrants whose first language is not English and whose children do not have English as a first language. And how many of the ones born in Britain are white? Arsenal is a symbol of everything that is wrong with this country. Look at their manager, the bloke who owns them, the second biggest shareholder, the players. They are driving the white British out of that club and it stinks to high heaven.

    That's a close second.

    Why do you bother? It's not funny

    Too right it's not. Arsenal are helping to destroy this country and everything it once stood for. They import non-English speaking immigrants, deny opportunities to white working class English lads and price real Londoners out of going to games so that they can sell seats to people who work for the BBC and other Europhile organisations.

    Oh well at least they done the double over Spurs, so I'll forgive them

    British owned and managed Spurs beaten back by foreign owned and immigrant managed Arsenal. It is the story of this country. As you say, it is a tragedy.

    At least Arsene speaks English ...... well, after a fashion and 17 years of trying.
  • MrJonesMrJones Posts: 3,523

    MrJones said:

    Beware of low-flying straw villages.

    Spot on. They are full of immigrants and have been built by BBC executives, the EU and other members of the banksta elite to do down white English folk.

    straw towns even
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118

    isam said:

    isam said:

    isam said:

    Good to see Arsenal improving on last season, albeit unspectacularly.

    More points, Champs League football secured with a game to spare, and a Cup final to look forward to.

    They are part of the conspiracy - most of them are immigrants whose first language is not English and whose children do not have English as a first language. And how many of the ones born in Britain are white? Arsenal is a symbol of everything that is wrong with this country. Look at their manager, the bloke who owns them, the second biggest shareholder, the players. They are driving the white British out of that club and it stinks to high heaven.

    That's a close second.

    Why do you bother? It's not funny

    Too right it's not. Arsenal are helping to destroy this country and everything it once stood for. They import non-English speaking immigrants, deny opportunities to white working class English lads and price real Londoners out of going to games so that they can sell seats to people who work for the BBC and other Europhile organisations.

    Oh well at least they done the double over Spurs, so I'll forgive them

    British owned and managed Spurs beaten back by foreign owned and immigrant managed Arsenal. It is the story of this country. As you say, it is a tragedy.

    I am not anti immigrant, I am in favour of controlled immigration. Big difference.

    Easy joke to make here but its almost as obviously predictable and unfunny as one of your efforts, so I will resist.



  • Stuart_DicksonStuart_Dickson Posts: 3,557

    Mr. Dickson, Sturgeon's being a silly bugger, as you well know.

    Morris Dancer's concise list of differences pertinent to the debating questions regarding Cameron debating with Farage at the General Election, and Cameron debating with Salmond in the Scottish independence referendum:

    1. Farage is polling consistently around 15-20% in the polls. Salmond is not.
    2. Farage and Cameron both have votes in the General Election. Cameron does not have a vote in the Scottish referendum.
    3. Farage and Cameron both lead nationwide parties. Salmond does not.
    4. The Scottish referendum is a choice by Scots, for Scots. Cameron is not a Scot. Having him debate would be like having a Lancastrian on the 'Unionist' side in a Yorkshire independence debate.

    Salmond just wants to have a pop at an evil Englishman to paint No as the English Bastard Tory Thatcher side and Yes as the Braveheart Kilts Patriotic Scottish side.

    - "1. Farage is polling consistently around 15-20% in the polls. Salmond is not."

    Indeed not. Salmond is polling at 34%.

    http://www.populus.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/140401-Populus_FT-March-2014.pdf
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340

    antifrank said:

    Afternoon all. After an interlude, I'm now starting to look at constituencies by region. London first, naturally:

    http://newstonoone.blogspot.co.uk/2014/05/strange-town-london-2015.html

    There was also a YouGov London poll in April this year.

    http://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/n4ojuqo0a6/YG-Archive-140411-Eveningstandard-London.pdf
    Much obliged - I hadn't seen that.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,507
    BREAKING NEWS:Sinn Fein leader Gerry Adams will be released without charge after being questioned over 1972 murder, BBC learns
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 39,668
    isam said:

    isam said:

    isam said:

    isam said:

    Good to see Arsenal improving on last season, albeit unspectacularly.

    More points, Champs League football secured with a game to spare, and a Cup final to look forward to.

    They are part of the conspiracy - most of them are immigrants whose first language is not English and whose children do not have English as a first language. And how many of the ones born in Britain are white? Arsenal is a symbol of everything that is wrong with this country. Look at their manager, the bloke who owns them, the second biggest shareholder, the players. They are driving the white British out of that club and it stinks to high heaven.

    That's a close second.

    Why do you bother? It's not funny

    Too right it's not. Arsenal are helping to destroy this country and everything it once stood for. They import non-English speaking immigrants, deny opportunities to white working class English lads and price real Londoners out of going to games so that they can sell seats to people who work for the BBC and other Europhile organisations.

    Oh well at least they done the double over Spurs, so I'll forgive them

    British owned and managed Spurs beaten back by foreign owned and immigrant managed Arsenal. It is the story of this country. As you say, it is a tragedy.

    I am not anti immigrant, I am in favour of controlled immigration. Big difference.

    Easy joke to make here but its almost as obviously predictable and unfunny as one of your efforts, so I will resist.

    No controlled immigration at the Arsenal. They'll take Poles, Germans, French, Spanish, non-EU migrants too. But if you are a white English kid from North London, what chance do you have? Only Jack gets in and he hardly plays because he is always "injured". Spurs does employ a few more English boys, but look at the colour of their skin, hardly a white face among them. Maybe the whole of Premier League football is an anti-white English EU/BBC conspiracy.

  • The powers that be on PB.com tend to concentrate only on those polls which are bad news for the Tories ..... haven't you noticed?

  • isamisam Posts: 41,118

    isam said:

    isam said:

    isam said:

    Good to see Arsenal improving on last season, albeit unspectacularly.

    More points, Champs League football secured with a game to spare, and a Cup final to look forward to.

    They are part of the conspiracy - most of them are immigrants whose first language is not English and whose children do not have English as a first language. And how many of the ones born in Britain are white? Arsenal is a symbol of everything that is wrong with this country. Look at their manager, the bloke who owns them, the second biggest shareholder, the players. They are driving the white British out of that club and it stinks to high heaven.

    That's a close second.

    Why do you bother? It's not funny

    Too right it's not. Arsenal are helping to destroy this country and everything it once stood for. They import non-English speaking immigrants, deny opportunities to white working class English lads and price real Londoners out of going to games so that they can sell seats to people who work for the BBC and other Europhile organisations.

    Oh well at least they done the double over Spurs, so I'll forgive them

    British owned and managed Spurs beaten back by foreign owned and immigrant managed Arsenal. It is the story of this country. As you say, it is a tragedy.

    At least Arsene speaks English ...... well, after a fashion and 17 years of trying.
    Mental stwengfs
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    @Pulpstar

    I hope you noticed my response to your IHT query a couple of days ago.
    To elaborate on the "undivided share" possibility, here's a couple of more links.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/property/propertyadvice/propertyclinic/7207543/Property-advice-reducing-inheritance-tax-liability.html
    http://www.taxation.co.uk/taxation/articles/2011/01/19/21565/making-declaration

    Needless to say, this is not a DIY option, and you should take professional advice.
  • BREAKING NEWS:Sinn Fein leader Gerry Adams will be released without charge after being questioned over 1972 murder, BBC learns

    The BBC "learns", the BBC "understands" etc. Bloody pompous speak!
  • HurstLlamaHurstLlama Posts: 9,098
    Just back after a stunningly good Sunday lunch. I swear she gets better at them as the years roll on; natures way of maintaining the female attractiveness perhaps. Mind you, I have yet to start the washing up, and then there is the ironing to do. Anyway:

    *Diplomacy Post*

    There are still two positions available in the PB 2014 MK3. Current line up is:

    Morris Dancer (pretending to be someone called Temujin for reasons that we may not ask)
    Freggles
    Uncle Monty
    Pulpstar
    Me

    I should have thought there are people around that fancy their chances against such a line up, or maybe people who have never played before who want to have a gentle introduction to the game. Either way, PlayDiplomacy.com, navigate to PB 2014 MK3.and the password is catsandkittens
  • isam said:

    isam said:

    isam said:

    isam said:

    Good to see Arsenal improving on last season, albeit unspectacularly.

    More points, Champs League football secured with a game to spare, and a Cup final to look forward to.

    They are part of the conspiracy - most of them are immigrants whose first language is not English and whose children do not have English as a first language. And how many of the ones born in Britain are white? Arsenal is a symbol of everything that is wrong with this country. Look at their manager, the bloke who owns them, the second biggest shareholder, the players. They are driving the white British out of that club and it stinks to high heaven.

    That's a close second.

    Why do you bother? It's not funny

    Too right it's not. Arsenal are helping to destroy this country and everything it once stood for. They import non-English speaking immigrants, deny opportunities to white working class English lads and price real Londoners out of going to games so that they can sell seats to people who work for the BBC and other Europhile organisations.

    Oh well at least they done the double over Spurs, so I'll forgive them

    British owned and managed Spurs beaten back by foreign owned and immigrant managed Arsenal. It is the story of this country. As you say, it is a tragedy.

    At least Arsene speaks English ...... well, after a fashion and 17 years of trying.
    Mental stwengfs
    Quite. Compare and contrast Wenger and Martinez.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118

    isam said:

    isam said:

    isam said:

    isam said:

    Good to see Arsenal improving on last season, albeit unspectacularly.

    More points, Champs League football secured with a game to spare, and a Cup final to look forward to.

    They are part of the conspiracy - most of them are immigrants whose first language is not English and whose children do not have English as a first language. And how many of the ones born in Britain are white? Arsenal is a symbol of everything that is wrong with this country. Look at their manager, the bloke who owns them, the second biggest shareholder, the players. They are driving the white British out of that club and it stinks to high heaven.

    That's a close second.

    Why do you bother? It's not funny

    Too right it's not. Arsenal are helping to destroy this country and everything it once stood for. They import non-English speaking immigrants, deny opportunities to white working class English lads and price real Londoners out of going to games so that they can sell seats to people who work for the BBC and other Europhile organisations.

    Oh well at least they done the double over Spurs, so I'll forgive them

    British owned and managed Spurs beaten back by foreign owned and immigrant managed Arsenal. It is the story of this country. As you say, it is a tragedy.

    I am not anti immigrant, I am in favour of controlled immigration. Big difference.

    Easy joke to make here but its almost as obviously predictable and unfunny as one of your efforts, so I will resist.

    No controlled immigration at the Arsenal. They'll take Poles, Germans, French, Spanish, non-EU migrants too. But if you are a white English kid from North London, what chance do you have? Only Jack gets in and he hardly plays because he is always "injured". Spurs does employ a few more English boys, but look at the colour of their skin, hardly a white face among them. Maybe the whole of Premier League football is an anti-white English EU/BBC conspiracy.

    Oh dear

    Please stop trying to paint me as racist
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,300
    edited May 2014
    Park and slide announced for Bristol.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-27275344

    Also Liszt''s St Francis Preaching to the Birds in Lord Mayor's Chapel complete with caged birds (and protester outside).
  • CD13CD13 Posts: 6,366
    SO,

    "Maybe the whole of Premier League football is an anti-white English EU/BBC conspiracy."

    Leave our BBC alone. They may be a Guardian-reading, metropolitan elite but they're like a distant branch of the family. The rich and posh branch with funny habits and views.

    They're probably, as Ukip would say, all as queer as three-bob bits, but they are sort of family, so they're excused a lot.

    And to be fair, they are balanced, in their own way.
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,300
    @CD13 How is it possible for BBC vans to park on pavements and double yellow lines without fines or being moved on?
  • Joking aside, I'd suggest that the virtually uncontrolled immigration of foreign footballers has genuinely been to the detriment of young English players. Something that Greg Dykes long awaited report will probably highlight.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    New Thread
  • peter_from_putneypeter_from_putney Posts: 6,956
    edited May 2014
    dr_spyn said:

    @CD13 How is it possible for BBC vans to park on pavements and double yellow lines without fines or being moved on?

    Presumably because they have an army of expensive lawyers who are paid enormous amounts of licence payers' money to appeal everything stuck onto a BBC windscreen. After decades of wasting their time, the traffic wardens and police have realised this and given up.
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 39,668
    edited May 2014
    isam said:

    isam said:

    isam said:

    isam said:

    isam said:

    Good to see Arsenal improving on last season, albeit unspectacularly.

    More points, Champs League football secured with a game to spare, and a Cup final to look forward to.

    They are part of the conspiracy - most of them are immigrants whose first language is not English and whose children do not have English as a first language. And how many of the ones born in Britain are white? Arsenal is a symbol of everything that is wrong with this country. Look at their manager, the bloke who owns them, the second biggest shareholder, the players. They are driving the white British out of that club and it stinks to high heaven.

    That's a close second.

    Why do you bother? It's not funny

    Too right it's not. Arsenal are helping to destroy this country and everything it once stood for. They import non-English speaking immigrants, deny opportunities to white working class English lads and price real Londoners out of going to games so that they can sell seats to people who work for the BBC and other Europhile organisations.

    Oh well at least they done the double over Spurs, so I'll forgive them

    British owned and managed Spurs beaten back by foreign owned and immigrant managed Arsenal. It is the story of this country. As you say, it is a tragedy.

    I am not anti immigrant, I am in favour of controlled immigration. Big difference.

    Easy joke to make here but its almost as obviously predictable and unfunny as one of your efforts, so I will resist.

    No controlled immigration at the Arsenal. They'll take Poles, Germans, French, Spanish, non-EU migrants too. But if you are a white English kid from North London, what chance do you have? Only Jack gets in and he hardly plays because he is always "injured". Spurs does employ a few more English boys, but look at the colour of their skin, hardly a white face among them. Maybe the whole of Premier League football is an anti-white English EU/BBC conspiracy.

    Oh dear

    Please stop trying to paint me as racist

    I am not. I don't think you are a racist. I think you are very focused on race, though; and very taken with the idea that the white, English working class are victims.

  • ZenPaganZenPagan Posts: 689

    Just back after a stunningly good Sunday lunch. I swear she gets better at them as the years roll on; natures way of maintaining the female attractiveness perhaps. Mind you, I have yet to start the washing up, and then there is the ironing to do. Anyway:

    *Diplomacy Post*

    There are still two positions available in the PB 2014 MK3. Current line up is:

    Morris Dancer (pretending to be someone called Temujin for reasons that we may not ask)
    Freggles
    Uncle Monty
    Pulpstar
    Me

    I should have thought there are people around that fancy their chances against such a line up, or maybe people who have never played before who want to have a gentle introduction to the game. Either way, PlayDiplomacy.com, navigate to PB 2014 MK3.and the password is catsandkittens

    taking the plunge as I haven't ever played before I expect you all to take advantage mercilessly

  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 43,337

    Mr. Dickson, Sturgeon's being a silly bugger, as you well know.

    Morris Dancer's concise list of differences pertinent to the debating questions regarding Cameron debating with Farage at the General Election, and Cameron debating with Salmond in the Scottish independence referendum:

    1. Farage is polling consistently around 15-20% in the polls. Salmond is not.
    2. Farage and Cameron both have votes in the General Election. Cameron does not have a vote in the Scottish referendum.
    3. Farage and Cameron both lead nationwide parties. Salmond does not.
    4. The Scottish referendum is a choice by Scots, for Scots. Cameron is not a Scot. Having him debate would be like having a Lancastrian on the 'Unionist' side in a Yorkshire independence debate.

    Salmond just wants to have a pop at an evil Englishman to paint No as the English Bastard Tory Thatcher side and Yes as the Braveheart Kilts Patriotic Scottish side.

    Apart from the small matter of anti-English being nothing to do with it (unless you think that pro-indy is the same thing), you are perhaps forgetting there is a difference between comment/advice, which we can listen to and absort or reject as we wish, and actually voting.

    If Mr Cameron has been happy to exert pressure on foreign governments anti-indy, why is he frightened to come and exert pressure directly on us by his rhetoric and compassion? We pay the man enough as it is to be our Prime Minister.

    And Mr Cameron does not lead a UK wide party. Northern Ireland, anyone?

  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 43,337

    Mr. Dickson, Sturgeon's being a silly bugger, as you well know.

    Morris Dancer's concise list of differences pertinent to the debating questions regarding Cameron debating with Farage at the General Election, and Cameron debating with Salmond in the Scottish independence referendum:

    1. Farage is polling consistently around 15-20% in the polls. Salmond is not.
    2. Farage and Cameron both have votes in the General Election. Cameron does not have a vote in the Scottish referendum.
    3. Farage and Cameron both lead nationwide parties. Salmond does not.
    4. The Scottish referendum is a choice by Scots, for Scots. Cameron is not a Scot. Having him debate would be like having a Lancastrian on the 'Unionist' side in a Yorkshire independence debate.

    Salmond just wants to have a pop at an evil Englishman to paint No as the English Bastard Tory Thatcher side and Yes as the Braveheart Kilts Patriotic Scottish side.

    - "1. Farage is polling consistently around 15-20% in the polls. Salmond is not."

    Indeed not. Salmond is polling at 34%.

    http://www.populus.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/140401-Populus_FT-March-2014.pdf
    Perhaps we should remind our colleagues on PB of Gibson's Law that anyone who mentions Bannockburn on a Scottish indy discussion automatically loses the debate.

    Unless it is germane to the topic of discussion. On which O/T I have just been reading the latest issue of History Scotland with some interesting articles on the battle which must not be named, in which such things as the actual site of the combats and the physical nature of the battlefield are still being debated.
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053

    MikeK said:

    Mr. K, it's utterly baffling as to why some mass murderers seem to get a free pass from some people.

    No mystery to me. Socialism, was/is supposed to be the panacea for all mankind's i'll's, and anything that casts a blemish on that utopia must be suppressed.

    "i'll's" ..... I'm not usually a grammar pedant, but this has to be the most delicious use of apostrophes ever witnessed on PB.com!

    Yep, agreed. My 80 year old fingers slipped and forgot to edit. Have a laugh!
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053

    BREAKING NEWS:Sinn Fein leader Gerry Adams will be released without charge after being questioned over 1972 murder, BBC learns

    Did anyone with any political savvy, actually think that they would charge him with anything to do with that murder?
  • HurstLlamaHurstLlama Posts: 9,098
    ZenPagan said:

    Just back after a stunningly good Sunday lunch. I swear she gets better at them as the years roll on; natures way of maintaining the female attractiveness perhaps. Mind you, I have yet to start the washing up, and then there is the ironing to do. Anyway:

    *Diplomacy Post*

    There are still two positions available in the PB 2014 MK3. Current line up is:

    Morris Dancer (pretending to be someone called Temujin for reasons that we may not ask)
    Freggles
    Uncle Monty
    Pulpstar
    Me

    I should have thought there are people around that fancy their chances against such a line up, or maybe people who have never played before who want to have a gentle introduction to the game. Either way, PlayDiplomacy.com, navigate to PB 2014 MK3.and the password is catsandkittens

    taking the plunge as I haven't ever played before I expect you all to take advantage mercilessly

    Well done, Mr. Pagan. Have no fear of people trying to take advantage of your newness to the game. I expect the other players will be desperately trying to help you, to come second.

    OK, folks that's 6 surely there is at least one more member of this site who fancies their negotiation skills and let us be honest negotiation is what the game of Diplomacy is all about. You can't win unless you can talk at least one other player into helping you do so. Of course they want to win too which is a bit of a bugger but it helps to sort the sheep from the goats. I would have though that some of the board;s international high-roller's who negotiate for a living might have fancied their chances at such a game.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 43,498

    Mr. Observer, one does wonder if we'll get:
    Yes wins
    Osborn et al. say No to a currency union
    Scots get terribly upset that Westminster politicians were actually being honest and straightforward

    I hope No wins. I can't see separation being other than acrimonious, alas.

    MD, wha ta laugh , Westminster politicians being honest. George has left himself jsut enough wriggle room to get out, it will happen.
  • HurstLlamaHurstLlama Posts: 9,098
    "Perhaps we should remind our colleagues on PB of Gibson's Law that anyone who mentions Bannockburn on a Scottish indy discussion automatically loses the debate."

    Or indeed Culloden, because its not the heats that count its the final.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758

    Charles said:

    MrJones said:

    Will the experts in supply and demand who pretend the housing crisis is just a question of supply and nothing to do with importing millions of new people acknowledge that building more houses will have **zero** effect on price unless they are built at a rate faster than the political class are importing new people.

    No, becaused we'd be wrong. Price is a function of supply and demand. If supply increases prices will fall relative to what they had been if supply had continued to be constrained. Prices will only fall in absolute terms mutis mutandis if aggregate supply exceeds aggregate demand
    So if you can grasp that how come Willetts can't ?
    Because he's more of an intellectual than I am. I'm just some guy with rather heavy exposure to the UK property market.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    MrJones said:

    Charles said:

    MrJones said:

    Will the experts in supply and demand who pretend the housing crisis is just a question of supply and nothing to do with importing millions of new people acknowledge that building more houses will have **zero** effect on price unless they are built at a rate faster than the political class are importing new people.

    No, becaused we'd be wrong. Price is a function of supply and demand. If supply increases prices will fall relative to what they had been if supply had continued to be constrained. Prices will only fall in absolute terms mutis mutandis if aggregate supply exceeds aggregate demand
    So if the supply of something goes up 5% while the demand for it goes up 10% then the price drops?
    No, the price will go up in that scenario, mutis mutandis. It will, however, go up less rapidly than if the supply had remained constant while the demand went up 10%
  • BlueberryBlueberry Posts: 408
    Love Farage's message. So fucking cool:

    My message to UKIP supporters is stay focused, stay dignified and keep the faith with good old-fashioned common sense.
  • volcanopetevolcanopete Posts: 2,078
    Tapestry said:

    Farage is a fracker - in favour of The Gassing of Britain. http://the-tap.blogspot.co.uk/2014/05/fracking-water-pollution-sinkholes.html

    We can and will defeat fracking.This report from Canada cannot be ignored.

    The political significance has been understated due to complacency and arrogance,as exemplified by the PB petrolheads and car junkies.

  • volcanopetevolcanopete Posts: 2,078
    Paddy Power .Next Sinn Fein leader betting.

    Mary Lou McDonald 1-6 fav.
    Pearse Doherty 7-2.
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