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  • CiceroCicero Posts: 4,522
    algarkirk said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @Gabriel_Pogrund

    George Cottrell opened account with secretive overseas payments company just days before it was used to channel “unexplained” £500,000 to Reform

    Cottrell became client via his entity in Montenegro — immediately before payment NCA can’t trace

    https://x.com/Gabriel_Pogrund/status/2078538701429239979?s=20

    Heart of stone.....
    The Insight team have got a whole lot more, haven't they? Farage really is toast.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 72,725
    DavidL said:

    Henderson
    Quansah
    Konsa
    Guéhi
    Spence
    Rice
    Saka
    Eze
    Rogers
    Rashford
    Toney

    I bet Arteta is dead pleased to learn injuried Rice and Saka are playing a pointless match, rather than play somebody like Manioo.

    Edit - Apparently Mainoo is injuried as well...

    Mainoo must really be wondering why he wasted his summer.
    Reports he is so disillusioned he is not in the right place to play

    If true shocking indictment of Tuchel coaching and care to his players
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 72,725
    DavidL said:

    Henderson
    Quansah
    Konsa
    Guéhi
    Spence
    Rice
    Saka
    Eze
    Rogers
    Rashford
    Toney

    I bet Arteta is dead pleased to learn injuried Rice and Saka are playing a pointless match, rather than play somebody like Manioo.

    Edit - Apparently Mainoo is injuried as well...

    Mainoo must really be wondering why he wasted his summer.
    Reports he is so disillusioned he is not in the right place to play

    If true shocking indictment of Tuchel coaching and care to his players
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 72,725

    £117 million for Morgan Rogers?

    World's gone mad.

    Chelsea certainly have
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 92,367
    edited July 18
    DavidL said:

    Henderson
    Quansah
    Konsa
    Guéhi
    Spence
    Rice
    Saka
    Eze
    Rogers
    Rashford
    Toney

    I bet Arteta is dead pleased to learn injuried Rice and Saka are playing a pointless match, rather than play somebody like Manioo.

    Edit - Apparently Mainoo is injuried as well...

    Mainoo must really be wondering why he wasted his summer.
    I bet Chalobah really pleased he cancelled his summer holibobs to be overlooked even when no other fit defenders to bring on and Rice goes to right back. And now doesn't even get a run out in the Worthless Cup game.
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 29,381

    DavidL said:

    Henderson
    Quansah
    Konsa
    Guéhi
    Spence
    Rice
    Saka
    Eze
    Rogers
    Rashford
    Toney

    I bet Arteta is dead pleased to learn injuried Rice and Saka are playing a pointless match, rather than play somebody like Manioo.

    Edit - Apparently Mainoo is injuried as well...

    Mainoo must really be wondering why he wasted his summer.
    Reports he is so disillusioned he is not in the right place to play

    If true shocking indictment of Tuchel coaching and care to his players
    Shocking oversight if he's not in the right place to play.

    They've known the next fixture will be in Miami since Wednesday.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 129,787
    edited July 18
    The Argentinian rugby football team are as classy as their association football team.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 92,367

    £117 million for Morgan Rogers?

    World's gone mad.

    Another Todd Boehly classic deal.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 59,555

    £117 million for Morgan Rogers?

    World's gone mad.

    Well, Chelsea have. They gave us £40m for Garnacho, remember. Mad as a box of frogs.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 59,555

    DavidL said:

    Henderson
    Quansah
    Konsa
    Guéhi
    Spence
    Rice
    Saka
    Eze
    Rogers
    Rashford
    Toney

    I bet Arteta is dead pleased to learn injuried Rice and Saka are playing a pointless match, rather than play somebody like Manioo.

    Edit - Apparently Mainoo is injuried as well...

    Mainoo must really be wondering why he wasted his summer.
    I bet Chalobah really pleased he cancelled his summer holibobs to be overlooked even when no other fit defenders to bring on and Rice goes to right back. And now doesn't even get a run out in the Worthless Cup game.
    This is a completely stupid and pointless game that no one gives a toss about. The least Tuchell could do is give game time to everyone in the squad who has not played.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 92,367
    edited July 18
    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    Henderson
    Quansah
    Konsa
    Guéhi
    Spence
    Rice
    Saka
    Eze
    Rogers
    Rashford
    Toney

    I bet Arteta is dead pleased to learn injuried Rice and Saka are playing a pointless match, rather than play somebody like Manioo.

    Edit - Apparently Mainoo is injuried as well...

    Mainoo must really be wondering why he wasted his summer.
    I bet Chalobah really pleased he cancelled his summer holibobs to be overlooked even when no other fit defenders to bring on and Rice goes to right back. And now doesn't even get a run out in the Worthless Cup game.
    This is a completely stupid and pointless game that no one gives a toss about. The least Tuchell could do is give game time to everyone in the squad who has not played.
    And not played crocked players. Saka can't bloody run. Each match he has played, he manages 2-3 bursts, then has to walk the rest of the time he is on the pitch. Rice has been some well documented damage and been shitting his guts out while punishing himself in massive matches at altitude and extreme heat (and also a player that can't help but always play at 100%). Guéhi tweaked his hamstring a couple of games back.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 59,555
    edited July 18

    DavidL said:

    Henderson
    Quansah
    Konsa
    Guéhi
    Spence
    Rice
    Saka
    Eze
    Rogers
    Rashford
    Toney

    I bet Arteta is dead pleased to learn injuried Rice and Saka are playing a pointless match, rather than play somebody like Manioo.

    Edit - Apparently Mainoo is injuried as well...

    Mainoo must really be wondering why he wasted his summer.
    Reports he is so disillusioned he is not in the right place to play

    If true shocking indictment of Tuchel coaching and care to his players
    Kane vanished with a complete lack of service to him when England got to the business end of the competition. I find it astonishing that Tuchel focused on grafters rather than someone who could be just a bit creative in midfield.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 129,787
    DavidL said:

    £117 million for Morgan Rogers?

    World's gone mad.

    Well, Chelsea have. They gave us £40m for Garnacho, remember. Mad as a box of frogs.
    You could buy Michael Olise for that much.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 92,367

    DavidL said:

    £117 million for Morgan Rogers?

    World's gone mad.

    Well, Chelsea have. They gave us £40m for Garnacho, remember. Mad as a box of frogs.
    You could buy Michael Olise for that much.
    Its makes the Chargos Island deal look good....
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 8,537
    edited July 18
    Why is Saka and Rice playing in this worthless match ? Why are they being risked? Arteta will be furious and Tuchel needs to just get lost .
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 59,555

    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    Henderson
    Quansah
    Konsa
    Guéhi
    Spence
    Rice
    Saka
    Eze
    Rogers
    Rashford
    Toney

    I bet Arteta is dead pleased to learn injuried Rice and Saka are playing a pointless match, rather than play somebody like Manioo.

    Edit - Apparently Mainoo is injuried as well...

    Mainoo must really be wondering why he wasted his summer.
    I bet Chalobah really pleased he cancelled his summer holibobs to be overlooked even when no other fit defenders to bring on and Rice goes to right back. And now doesn't even get a run out in the Worthless Cup game.
    This is a completely stupid and pointless game that no one gives a toss about. The least Tuchell could do is give game time to everyone in the squad who has not played.
    And not played crocked players. Saka can't bloody run. Each match he has played, he manages 2-3 bursts, then has to walk the rest of the time he is on the pitch. Rice has been some well documented damage and been shitting his guts out while punishing himself in massive matches at altitude and extreme heat (and also a player that can't help but always play at 100%). Guéhi tweaked his hamstring a couple of games back.
    I honestly think Tuchel had a poor world cup. His squad selection was eccentric, his team selection was poor, his tactics were questionable and he simply did not focus on how to get the best out of his best players. The criticism of the team (who had played as he set them up) after Norway really rankled, his overloading of defenders against Argentina giving England no out ball or any break from the relentless pressure until the inevitable happened, he is bloody lucky to have kept his job.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 92,367
    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    Henderson
    Quansah
    Konsa
    Guéhi
    Spence
    Rice
    Saka
    Eze
    Rogers
    Rashford
    Toney

    I bet Arteta is dead pleased to learn injuried Rice and Saka are playing a pointless match, rather than play somebody like Manioo.

    Edit - Apparently Mainoo is injuried as well...

    Mainoo must really be wondering why he wasted his summer.
    I bet Chalobah really pleased he cancelled his summer holibobs to be overlooked even when no other fit defenders to bring on and Rice goes to right back. And now doesn't even get a run out in the Worthless Cup game.
    This is a completely stupid and pointless game that no one gives a toss about. The least Tuchell could do is give game time to everyone in the squad who has not played.
    And not played crocked players. Saka can't bloody run. Each match he has played, he manages 2-3 bursts, then has to walk the rest of the time he is on the pitch. Rice has been some well documented damage and been shitting his guts out while punishing himself in massive matches at altitude and extreme heat (and also a player that can't help but always play at 100%). Guéhi tweaked his hamstring a couple of games back.
    I honestly think Tuchel had a poor world cup. His squad selection was eccentric, his team selection was poor, his tactics were questionable and he simply did not focus on how to get the best out of his best players. The criticism of the team (who had played as he set them up) after Norway really rankled, his overloading of defenders against Argentina giving England no out ball or any break from the relentless pressure until the inevitable happened, he is bloody lucky to have kept his job.
    I think Jude Bellingham might agree with you.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 80,205
    rcs1000 said:

    John Rentoul
    @JohnRentoul

    Burnham plots Ed Miliband shake-up of Foreign Office as he readies policy blitz for first day as PM | The Independent

    https://x.com/JohnRentoul/status/2078539419343368582

    ====

    I'm sorrry? What? Ed M and foreign policy? Has he ever shown the slightest interest?

    Gets him out of the energy and the Treasury.

    I recommended this move a very long time ago here.
    Ed Miliband confronting Trump will be value...
    I'd like to see Trump eat a bacon sandwich as well as EdM.
    I'm not sure I want to see Trump eating Ed Miliband.
  • stodgestodge Posts: 16,858
    Evening all :)

    I'm not 100% sure we should be getting as excited about a banner on a football pitch - the better course would be to ignore rather than respond.

    I'm sure Millei would lose his fan club among some on here if he were to instigate some form of action over the Falklands but he won't probably because he can't.

    One man already seemingly lacking a fan club is Andy Burnham - the usual suspects are weighing in and he's not even in post. At least some waited for Starmer's car to be at Admiralty Arch before chiming in.

    The Mail claims he will tqke us back to the 1970s - I was tempted to think Farage would take us back to the 1870s and Rupert Lowe to the 1670s but that's a little mean spirited.

    Burnham will only hold an election when he is certain he will win - Theresa May stands as an example of electoral over-confidence.

    I think he has a political edge which Starmer lacks and he will know the perception of improvement is more important than the statistical truth. As an opponent, he will make Badenoch's life much harder and of that I am sure she is well aware. She will need to raise her game accordingly.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 92,367

    Burnham to scrap digital ID

    BBC News - Andy Burnham to scrap digital ID to focus on cost of living
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y08z25q8eo

    It had already been watered down so much it was about as much use as a Blockbuster Membership card.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 59,555

    DavidL said:

    £117 million for Morgan Rogers?

    World's gone mad.

    Well, Chelsea have. They gave us £40m for Garnacho, remember. Mad as a box of frogs.
    You could buy Michael Olise for that much.
    Its makes the Chargos Island deal look good....
    Steady.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 80,205

    ydoethur said:

    Collapse of 8-31 in 4.3 overs.

    That’s pretty dramatic.

    And isn’t it a shame the ground is half empty?

    Inevitable when the quarter finals finished 72 hours ago.
    All the grounds have been half empty all the way through this tournament.

    Clearly, the stupid mismarketing of the Hundred which is putting everyone off plus the expense of tickets is having a negative knock on effect on attendances.

    That's bad news for the counties, most of whom rely on T20 gate money to stay ahead of the overdraft.
  • glwglw Posts: 10,950
    nico67 said:

    Taz said:

    Omnium said:

    Taz said:

    Politics UK
    @PolitlcsUK
    ·
    1h
    🚨 NEW: Andy Burnham is set to increase international aid spending to 0.7% of GDP

    [
    @Independent
    ]

    Thank God we’ve got the money spare
    He's going to take us non-nuclear I guess.

    What a fool the man is. I really do think that Truss might see her 49 days beaten.
    From the same Twitter feed

    “ 🚨NEW: Andy Burnham will increase international aid spending from the current 0.2% of GDP to 0.7% of GDP

    It will cost roughly +£16.5Bn”

    Doesn’t say if it’s per year or life of parliament
    Admirable but will go down badly with a lot of people . If confirmed this looks like a bad mistake by Burnham and where exactly is he going to find the money ?
    I broadly agree with the putative benefits of internation aid, but even to me this sounds absolutely nuts in the current circumstances.
  • stodgestodge Posts: 16,858
    I suspect were there now an election between Keir Starmer and Thomas Tuchel, Starmer would win by a landslide.

    Tuchel really isn't much liked, is he?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 80,205

    Burnham to scrap digital ID

    BBC News - Andy Burnham to scrap digital ID to focus on cost of living
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y08z25q8eo

    So at least it's not all bad news.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 92,367
    edited July 18
    Good job England Hampshire bat deep. Well England U19 as well.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 129,787
    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    Collapse of 8-31 in 4.3 overs.

    That’s pretty dramatic.

    And isn’t it a shame the ground is half empty?

    Inevitable when the quarter finals finished 72 hours ago.
    All the grounds have been half empty all the way through this tournament.

    Clearly, the stupid mismarketing of the Hundred which is putting everyone off plus the expense of tickets is having a negative knock on effect on attendances.

    That's bad news for the counties, most of whom rely on T20 gate money to stay ahead of the overdraft.
    Absolutely boils my piss that between the 20th of July and the 18th of August the England's men's team will not play any format of cricket.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 60,941
    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    Henderson
    Quansah
    Konsa
    Guéhi
    Spence
    Rice
    Saka
    Eze
    Rogers
    Rashford
    Toney

    I bet Arteta is dead pleased to learn injuried Rice and Saka are playing a pointless match, rather than play somebody like Manioo.

    Edit - Apparently Mainoo is injuried as well...

    Mainoo must really be wondering why he wasted his summer.
    I bet Chalobah really pleased he cancelled his summer holibobs to be overlooked even when no other fit defenders to bring on and Rice goes to right back. And now doesn't even get a run out in the Worthless Cup game.
    This is a completely stupid and pointless game that no one gives a toss about. The least Tuchell could do is give game time to everyone in the squad who has not played.
    And not played crocked players. Saka can't bloody run. Each match he has played, he manages 2-3 bursts, then has to walk the rest of the time he is on the pitch. Rice has been some well documented damage and been shitting his guts out while punishing himself in massive matches at altitude and extreme heat (and also a player that can't help but always play at 100%). Guéhi tweaked his hamstring a couple of games back.
    I honestly think Tuchel had a poor world cup. His squad selection was eccentric, his team selection was poor, his tactics were questionable and he simply did not focus on how to get the best out of his best players. The criticism of the team (who had played as he set them up) after Norway really rankled, his overloading of defenders against Argentina giving England no out ball or any break from the relentless pressure until the inevitable happened, he is bloody lucky to have kept his job.
    We need to understand who was injured to understand his choices.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 23,888
    AB scraps ID Card plan
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 23,865
    Like I said - wickets... All on Joe now
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 129,787
    stodge said:

    I suspect were there now an election between Keir Starmer and Thomas Tuchel, Starmer would win by a landslide.

    Tuchel really isn't much liked, is he?

    He's reminding us why he's the only Bayern Munich manager not win the Bundesliga in the last fifteen years.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 129,787

    AB scraps ID Card plan

    Sad.
  • glwglw Posts: 10,950

    Burnham to scrap digital ID

    BBC News - Andy Burnham to scrap digital ID to focus on cost of living
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y08z25q8eo

    ydoethur said:

    Burnham to scrap digital ID

    BBC News - Andy Burnham to scrap digital ID to focus on cost of living
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y08z25q8eo

    So at least it's not all bad news.
    The same government keeps on adding new things for which we need to prove our identity or age. So scrapping a system that might actually be half-decent for the smorgasbord of PII exposing alternatives that funnel all sorts of important data off-shore isn't necessarily good news.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 80,205

    Like I said - wickets... All on Joe now

    Liam can bat. But there's quite a lot riding on this partnership.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 23,888

    AB scraps ID Card plan

    Money saved to go to cost of living savings

  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 23,888
    Wild Berries to be renamed Fookin furious Berries
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 20,007
    edited July 18
    algarkirk said:

    🚨 Latest Opinium @ObserverUK poll 🚨

    Reform's lead slashed to only 1 point over Labour.

    ➡️ REF 23% (-1) (lowest since 2024)
    🌹 LAB 22% (+3) (highest since April 2026)
    🌳 CON 20% (+2) (highest since April 2025)
    🌍 GRN 14% (-2)
    🔶 LD 11% (-1)


    https://x.com/OpiniumResearch/status/2078555405022826813

    Completely extraordinary to be top in the polls - as in this one - but at the same time everyone knows you are toast. It's a bit like watching England be 1-0 up against Argentina and knowing we were going to lose. Except this time it is guiltily and hugely enjoyable.

    Noteworthy in the Times piece on the money trail that every character involved, except one, is being, or has been, investigated by the police. Only one has not been investigated.

    Yet.
  • stodgestodge Posts: 16,858
    I presume since Ed M is popular with Labour MPs (and they matter, not the PB commentariat in this instance) Andy Burnham has to give him what looks a serious job.

    As we know, the Foreign Secretary job is almost meaningless these days - the PM does international diplomacy anf the FS sits in the background. It's a non job but it looks and conveys importance.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 129,787
    Argentina are the only team out of all 48 participants not to have a single VAR intervention against them, despite committing the most fouls in the tournament. Do you even realize how insane that is?

    https://x.com/_common_W_/status/2078541985703448864
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 92,367

    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    Collapse of 8-31 in 4.3 overs.

    That’s pretty dramatic.

    And isn’t it a shame the ground is half empty?

    Inevitable when the quarter finals finished 72 hours ago.
    All the grounds have been half empty all the way through this tournament.

    Clearly, the stupid mismarketing of the Hundred which is putting everyone off plus the expense of tickets is having a negative knock on effect on attendances.

    That's bad news for the counties, most of whom rely on T20 gate money to stay ahead of the overdraft.
    Absolutely boils my piss that between the 20th of July and the 18th of August the England's men's team will not play any format of cricket.
    Lots more time for you to enjoy the Hundred.....
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 80,205
    edited July 18
    You'd normally say 58 off 5 was a fairly straightforward chase.

    But Northants are one wicket away from making this very tricky for Hampshire.
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 20,007
    glw said:

    Burnham to scrap digital ID

    BBC News - Andy Burnham to scrap digital ID to focus on cost of living
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y08z25q8eo

    ydoethur said:

    Burnham to scrap digital ID

    BBC News - Andy Burnham to scrap digital ID to focus on cost of living
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y08z25q8eo

    So at least it's not all bad news.
    The same government keeps on adding new things for which we need to prove our identity or age. So scrapping a system that might actually be half-decent for the smorgasbord of PII exposing alternatives that funnel all sorts of important data off-shore isn't necessarily good news.
    Indeed. The current situation is mandatory ID without a standardised way of demonstrating it. This is just delaying the inevitable (again)
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 80,205
    edited July 18
    Everyone thinking Weatherley was key, and here's Dawson doing the actual match winning.

    Edit - I've still got it...
  • rkrkrkrkrkrk Posts: 9,402

    AB scraps ID Card plan

    Money saved to go to cost of living savings

    Politically astute, probably not great policywise.
    This might be the Burnham way.
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 29,381
    rkrkrk said:

    AB scraps ID Card plan

    Money saved to go to cost of living savings

    Politically astute, probably not great policywise.
    This might be the Burnham way.
    It is excellent policywise to get rid of this authoritarian nonsense we do not need.

    Get rid of all of these barnacles.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 80,205
    If Northants don't get a wicket in this over, I expect Hampshire to win.
  • glwglw Posts: 10,950
    FF43 said:

    glw said:

    Burnham to scrap digital ID

    BBC News - Andy Burnham to scrap digital ID to focus on cost of living
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y08z25q8eo

    ydoethur said:

    Burnham to scrap digital ID

    BBC News - Andy Burnham to scrap digital ID to focus on cost of living
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y08z25q8eo

    So at least it's not all bad news.
    The same government keeps on adding new things for which we need to prove our identity or age. So scrapping a system that might actually be half-decent for the smorgasbord of PII exposing alternatives that funnel all sorts of important data off-shore isn't necessarily good news.
    Indeed. The current situation is mandatory ID without a standardised way of demonstrating it. This is just delaying the inevitable (again)
    Well if he scraps all the intended online uses, that would make sense at least, but I doubt he'll do that, in fact I expect he'll likely do even more of them. This is a problem that is going to bite some future government on the arse. If you want people to keep proving their identity and age — even such mundane things as iOS on your phone insists on knowing your age now — then you ought to have a system in place that is as secure and private as possible, not scan you face or documents and send it to a server in Timbuktu. This kind of knee jerk decision without thinking through the consequences does not bode well.
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 20,007
    stodge said:

    Evening all :)

    I'm not 100% sure we should be getting as excited about a banner on a football pitch - the better course would be to ignore rather than respond.

    I'm sure Millei would lose his fan club among some on here if he were to instigate some form of action over the Falklands but he won't probably because he can't.

    One man already seemingly lacking a fan club is Andy Burnham - the usual suspects are weighing in and he's not even in post. At least some waited for Starmer's car to be at Admiralty Arch before chiming in.

    The Mail claims he will tqke us back to the 1970s - I was tempted to think Farage would take us back to the 1870s and Rupert Lowe to the 1670s but that's a little mean spirited.

    Burnham will only hold an election when he is certain he will win - Theresa May stands as an example of electoral over-confidence.

    I think he has a political edge which Starmer lacks and he will know the perception of improvement is more important than the statistical truth. As an opponent, he will make Badenoch's life much harder and of that I am sure she is well aware. She will need to raise her game accordingly.

    Burnham does have a decent track record in Greater Manchester, which is a socially diverse territory. And he got the buses to run. Run, not just on time. A step up from Mussolini.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 80,205
    edited July 18
    I rather think that is that for Hampshire, short of something amazing.

    And it was. Congrats to Northants.
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 20,007
    glw said:

    FF43 said:

    glw said:

    Burnham to scrap digital ID

    BBC News - Andy Burnham to scrap digital ID to focus on cost of living
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y08z25q8eo

    ydoethur said:

    Burnham to scrap digital ID

    BBC News - Andy Burnham to scrap digital ID to focus on cost of living
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y08z25q8eo

    So at least it's not all bad news.
    The same government keeps on adding new things for which we need to prove our identity or age. So scrapping a system that might actually be half-decent for the smorgasbord of PII exposing alternatives that funnel all sorts of important data off-shore isn't necessarily good news.
    Indeed. The current situation is mandatory ID without a standardised way of demonstrating it. This is just delaying the inevitable (again)
    Well if he scraps all the intended online uses, that would make sense at least, but I doubt he'll do that, in fact I expect he'll likely do even more of them. This is a problem that is going to bite some future government on the arse. If you want people to keep proving their identity and age — even such mundane things as iOS on your phone insists on knowing your age now — then you ought to have a system in place that is as secure and private as possible, not scan you face or documents and send it to a server in Timbuktu. This kind of knee jerk decision without thinking through the consequences does not bode well.
    Implementation is all important. I have no idea about the specific scheme and whether it's a good one. But if you require ID to vote, access healthcare, deal with your tax, have a job etc, there needs to be a universal form of it that everyone has.
  • DriverDriver Posts: 5,737
    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    Collapse of 8-31 in 4.3 overs.

    That’s pretty dramatic.

    And isn’t it a shame the ground is half empty?

    Inevitable when the quarter finals finished 72 hours ago.
    All the grounds have been half empty all the way through this tournament.

    Clearly, the stupid mismarketing of the Hundred which is putting everyone off plus the expense of tickets is having a negative knock on effect on attendances.

    That's bad news for the counties, most of whom rely on T20 gate money to stay ahead of the overdraft.
    Your regular reminder that the ECB would be quite happy with reducing the first class counties to those with Test grounds, plus perhaps a couple of others.
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 6,092
    rkrkrk said:

    AB scraps ID Card plan

    Money saved to go to cost of living savings

    Politically astute, probably not great policywise.
    This might be the Burnham way.
    It's absolutely the right policy choice. Credit where credit is due.

    Blair got it wrong with ID cards. Starmer got it wrong with Digital ID.

    Burnham is doing the right thing. As is his choice to change direction with regards to drilling.

    I won't agree with all of what he does. But these two choices are welcome.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 23,865
    Bollocks.

    But well played Northants.
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 29,381
    edited July 18
    FF43 said:

    glw said:

    FF43 said:

    glw said:

    Burnham to scrap digital ID

    BBC News - Andy Burnham to scrap digital ID to focus on cost of living
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y08z25q8eo

    ydoethur said:

    Burnham to scrap digital ID

    BBC News - Andy Burnham to scrap digital ID to focus on cost of living
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y08z25q8eo

    So at least it's not all bad news.
    The same government keeps on adding new things for which we need to prove our identity or age. So scrapping a system that might actually be half-decent for the smorgasbord of PII exposing alternatives that funnel all sorts of important data off-shore isn't necessarily good news.
    Indeed. The current situation is mandatory ID without a standardised way of demonstrating it. This is just delaying the inevitable (again)
    Well if he scraps all the intended online uses, that would make sense at least, but I doubt he'll do that, in fact I expect he'll likely do even more of them. This is a problem that is going to bite some future government on the arse. If you want people to keep proving their identity and age — even such mundane things as iOS on your phone insists on knowing your age now — then you ought to have a system in place that is as secure and private as possible, not scan you face or documents and send it to a server in Timbuktu. This kind of knee jerk decision without thinking through the consequences does not bode well.
    Implementation is all important. I have no idea about the specific scheme and whether it's a good one. But if you require ID to vote, access healthcare, deal with your tax, have a job etc, there needs to be a universal form of it that everyone has.
    No, there does not. There needs to be options people can choose from and everyone ought to be able to get one of those options, but the more fragmented it is, the better.

    A single unified system is a dystopian nightmare.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 80,205

    Bollocks.

    But well played Northants.

    Northants have been the standout team all the way through the tournament. They walloped pretty much everyone in what was I think the hardest group (in terms of how competitive the matches were) and they have been clinical in the knockouts. Deserved champions really.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 60,556
    Come on, England!
  • DriverDriver Posts: 5,737
    Winning both games today without batting their overs in either.

    Got to be pretty rare in T20.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 35,709
    edited July 18
    kinabalu said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Omnium said:

    kinabalu said:

    I'll tell you the worst Bond film. Thunderball. Those interminable underwater scenes where you have no clue who is who because they're all in masks and wetsuits.

    Die Another Day and Diamonds are Forever are the worst.

    OHMSS is remarkably good, which is astonishing given Lazenby's limited acting abilities.

    All credit to his co-stars and, especially, the Director.
    Dr No is the best Bond film. Just really as it has the advantage of being first.
    It really isn't; both of the Connery movies that follow it -From Russia with Love and Goldfinger- are better.

    It is, however, better than all the Roger Moore ones, and most of the Brosnan and Craig movies.
    Errrr. No.

    Ask me which I'd put on right now (which is my way of discerning the most entertaining film) I'm putting Octopussy, Spy Who Loved Me, View to a Kill, and probably For Your Eyes Only on before I reach for Dr No.
    No offence but that is shallow.
    None taken. I don't agree - Octopussy is quite a clever Cold War thriller. The films I listed all have varying degrees of actual merit and nostalgia factor.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 23,865
    ydoethur said:

    Bollocks.

    But well played Northants.

    Northants have been the standout team all the way through the tournament. They walloped pretty much everyone in what was I think the hardest group (in terms of how competitive the matches were) and they have been clinical in the knockouts. Deserved champions really.
    Hard to disagree.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 40,978
    We will win, France will lose. Go England.
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 20,007
    edited July 18

    FF43 said:

    glw said:

    FF43 said:

    glw said:

    Burnham to scrap digital ID

    BBC News - Andy Burnham to scrap digital ID to focus on cost of living
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y08z25q8eo

    ydoethur said:

    Burnham to scrap digital ID

    BBC News - Andy Burnham to scrap digital ID to focus on cost of living
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y08z25q8eo

    So at least it's not all bad news.
    The same government keeps on adding new things for which we need to prove our identity or age. So scrapping a system that might actually be half-decent for the smorgasbord of PII exposing alternatives that funnel all sorts of important data off-shore isn't necessarily good news.
    Indeed. The current situation is mandatory ID without a standardised way of demonstrating it. This is just delaying the inevitable (again)
    Well if he scraps all the intended online uses, that would make sense at least, but I doubt he'll do that, in fact I expect he'll likely do even more of them. This is a problem that is going to bite some future government on the arse. If you want people to keep proving their identity and age — even such mundane things as iOS on your phone insists on knowing your age now — then you ought to have a system in place that is as secure and private as possible, not scan you face or documents and send it to a server in Timbuktu. This kind of knee jerk decision without thinking through the consequences does not bode well.
    Implementation is all important. I have no idea about the specific scheme and whether it's a good one. But if you require ID to vote, access healthcare, deal with your tax, have a job etc, there needs to be a universal form of it that everyone has.
    No, there does not. There needs to be options people can choose from and everyone ought to be able to get one of those options, but the more fragmented it is, the better.

    A single unified system is a dystopian nightmare.
    Not as dystopian as the current situation where you have to prove ID and not everyone has the means to do so reliably and easily.

    The key choice is whether you need demonstrate ID for government stuff.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,932

    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    Henderson
    Quansah
    Konsa
    Guéhi
    Spence
    Rice
    Saka
    Eze
    Rogers
    Rashford
    Toney

    I bet Arteta is dead pleased to learn injuried Rice and Saka are playing a pointless match, rather than play somebody like Manioo.

    Edit - Apparently Mainoo is injuried as well...

    Mainoo must really be wondering why he wasted his summer.
    I bet Chalobah really pleased he cancelled his summer holibobs to be overlooked even when no other fit defenders to bring on and Rice goes to right back. And now doesn't even get a run out in the Worthless Cup game.
    This is a completely stupid and pointless game that no one gives a toss about. The least Tuchell could do is give game time to everyone in the squad who has not played.
    And not played crocked players. Saka can't bloody run. Each match he has played, he manages 2-3 bursts, then has to walk the rest of the time he is on the pitch. Rice has been some well documented damage and been shitting his guts out while punishing himself in massive matches at altitude and extreme heat (and also a player that can't help but always play at 100%). Guéhi tweaked his hamstring a couple of games back.
    I honestly think Tuchel had a poor world cup. His squad selection was eccentric, his team selection was poor, his tactics were questionable and he simply did not focus on how to get the best out of his best players. The criticism of the team (who had played as he set them up) after Norway really rankled, his overloading of defenders against Argentina giving England no out ball or any break from the relentless pressure until the inevitable happened, he is bloody lucky to have kept his job.
    We need to understand who was injured to understand his choices.
    Weren't some of his selections already injured ?
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 23,865
    Aren't MPs meant to announce stuff in the house? Otherwise what is the house for?
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 40,978
    Referee is Jesús Valenzuela from Venezuela.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 40,978
    edited July 18
    What the hell are France doing? England 1-0.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 9,698
    Not bad.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 60,556
    1-0 to England already!!
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 25,017
    The turnaround of that "trend" of Labour third to Labour joint-first was pretty rapid. Lol.

    Do we know whether there are hustings events in Clacton, and whether all 34 candidates will be invited?

    Has any party ever stood multiple candidates in a single-member Commons constituency election before?
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 40,978
    Betfair Exchange odds after the England goal

    England 2.64
    France 2.68
    Draw 3.95

    https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/en/football/fifa-world-cup/france-v-england-betting-35828094
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 25,830

    kinabalu said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Omnium said:

    kinabalu said:

    I'll tell you the worst Bond film. Thunderball. Those interminable underwater scenes where you have no clue who is who because they're all in masks and wetsuits.

    Die Another Day and Diamonds are Forever are the worst.

    OHMSS is remarkably good, which is astonishing given Lazenby's limited acting abilities.

    All credit to his co-stars and, especially, the Director.
    Dr No is the best Bond film. Just really as it has the advantage of being first.
    It really isn't; both of the Connery movies that follow it -From Russia with Love and Goldfinger- are better.

    It is, however, better than all the Roger Moore ones, and most of the Brosnan and Craig movies.
    Errrr. No.

    Ask me which I'd put on right now (which is my way of discerning the most entertaining film) I'm putting Octopussy, Spy Who Loved Me, View to a Kill, and probably For Your Eyes Only on before I reach for Dr No.
    No offence but that is shallow.
    None taken. I don't agree - Octopussy is quite a clever Cold War thriller. The films I listed all have varying degrees of actual merit and nostalgia factor.
    And in all of them, I have no real idea what is going on.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 55,816
    Five minutes in is maybe a tad early to sub on a load of defenders?
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 40,978

    AB scraps ID Card plan

    At this rate I'm going to be voting Labour at the next general election.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 55,816
    Andy_JS said:

    Referee is Jesús Valenzuela from Venezuela.

    Christ
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 60,556

    1-0 to England already!!

    Right, let’s get defenders on and try to cling on to this.
    Parking a 12-carriage Thameslink.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 92,367
    IanB2 said:

    Five minutes in is maybe a tad early to sub on a load of defenders?

    Ding dong....Dan Burn please report to the 4th official....
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 15,624
    Doue’s pass was so criminal, he’s being transferred to Château d'If FC.
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 29,381
    FF43 said:

    FF43 said:

    glw said:

    FF43 said:

    glw said:

    Burnham to scrap digital ID

    BBC News - Andy Burnham to scrap digital ID to focus on cost of living
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y08z25q8eo

    ydoethur said:

    Burnham to scrap digital ID

    BBC News - Andy Burnham to scrap digital ID to focus on cost of living
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y08z25q8eo

    So at least it's not all bad news.
    The same government keeps on adding new things for which we need to prove our identity or age. So scrapping a system that might actually be half-decent for the smorgasbord of PII exposing alternatives that funnel all sorts of important data off-shore isn't necessarily good news.
    Indeed. The current situation is mandatory ID without a standardised way of demonstrating it. This is just delaying the inevitable (again)
    Well if he scraps all the intended online uses, that would make sense at least, but I doubt he'll do that, in fact I expect he'll likely do even more of them. This is a problem that is going to bite some future government on the arse. If you want people to keep proving their identity and age — even such mundane things as iOS on your phone insists on knowing your age now — then you ought to have a system in place that is as secure and private as possible, not scan you face or documents and send it to a server in Timbuktu. This kind of knee jerk decision without thinking through the consequences does not bode well.
    Implementation is all important. I have no idea about the specific scheme and whether it's a good one. But if you require ID to vote, access healthcare, deal with your tax, have a job etc, there needs to be a universal form of it that everyone has.
    No, there does not. There needs to be options people can choose from and everyone ought to be able to get one of those options, but the more fragmented it is, the better.

    A single unified system is a dystopian nightmare.
    Not as dystopian as the current situation where you have to prove ID and not everyone has the means to do so reliably and easily.

    The key choice is whether you need demonstrate ID for government stuff.
    There are many options to prove ID, everyone can choose any of those.

    All in favour of making it easier to get any of them if needed, but absolutely no need to have another one everyone has to have.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 60,556
    2-0?

    N0, offside!!
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 29,381
    Guessing Rice did not get the memo that he should not be selected.
  • RattersRatters Posts: 2,116

    Aren't MPs meant to announce stuff in the house? Otherwise what is the house for?

    To vote on laws?
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 55,816
    We seem to get a better game when no-one gives a toss?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 92,367
    The scanned avatars of the players they made are utter crap.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 92,367
    The scanned avatars of the players they made are utter crap.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 59,555
    IanB2 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Referee is Jesús Valenzuela from Venezuela.

    Christ
    No. Jesus.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,932
    Unless this includes Trump, then it's not the "biggest problem", but it's an interesting point (and not, IMO, homophobic, which no doubt he will be accused of).

    Hunter Biden: “I believe the biggest problem in America is not the oligarchy, it’s the closetocracy. Everybody knows there is this closeted gay mafia, largely Republican, that exists in DC. The only reason that is relevant is I believe that internal conflict creates so much vitriol inside a person that they take it out on the rest of the world”
    https://x.com/MarcoFoster_/status/2078517381345997151
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 28,062

    Guessing Rice did not get the memo that he should not be selected.

    Obviously the Arsenal boys are playing. I love the fact that they always want to represent their country unlike certain other players from certain other clubs.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 60,556
    2-0!!!
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 40,978
    Definitely 2-0 this time.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,932
    Why is Saka showing so much desire in the dead game ?
    Was he simply injured previously ?
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 72,725
    Mon Dieu
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 9,698
    Guesses for total number of goals in the match? If this style of play and pace keeps going? 4-3 England.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 40,978
    Sod's Law if we beat the French in this match when a lot of people thought this would be the final line-up.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 92,367
    Nigelb said:

    Why is Saka showing so much desire in the dead game ?
    Was he simply injured previously ?

    He still isn't fit, he was closed down comfortably when through in that last chance.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 29,259
    rcs1000 said:

    kinabalu said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Omnium said:

    kinabalu said:

    I'll tell you the worst Bond film. Thunderball. Those interminable underwater scenes where you have no clue who is who because they're all in masks and wetsuits.

    Die Another Day and Diamonds are Forever are the worst.

    OHMSS is remarkably good, which is astonishing given Lazenby's limited acting abilities.

    All credit to his co-stars and, especially, the Director.
    Dr No is the best Bond film. Just really as it has the advantage of being first.
    It really isn't; both of the Connery movies that follow it -From Russia with Love and Goldfinger- are better.

    It is, however, better than all the Roger Moore ones, and most of the Brosnan and Craig movies.
    Errrr. No.

    Ask me which I'd put on right now (which is my way of discerning the most entertaining film) I'm putting Octopussy, Spy Who Loved Me, View to a Kill, and probably For Your Eyes Only on before I reach for Dr No.
    No offence but that is shallow.
    Octopussy is the best "High Camp" Bond movie. It's fun and well paced, and it doesn't take itself too seriously. Plus, Steven Berkoff as the utterly deranged (and sadly underused) General Orlov is brilliant.

    Plus the actor who played Kamal Khan was also a baddie in a Columbo, where -I think- he is a restaurant critic or owner.
    Stephen Berkoffis very good as an over-the-top actor but he is a prick to work with. The stories about how he derailed the Dr Who episode "The Power Of Three" are legendary

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Power_of_Three_(Doctor_Who)
    https://www.reddit.com/r/gallifrey/comments/1p8d0bu/is_there_any_actual_proof_that_the_actor_in_the/
    https://www.tiktok.com/@doccywhotime/video/7303687341208620321
    https://www.starburstmagazine.com/features/interview-douglas-mackinnon-director-of-doctor-who-series-7-episode-4-the-power-of-three/
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 129,787
    England shitting the bed against Argentina again.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 28,062
    Nigelb said:

    Why is Saka showing so much desire in the dead game ?
    Was he simply injured previously ?

    Remarkably, we’ve stumbled across an opponent who gives even less of a fuck about the third place playoff than we do.

    If you give Saka service, he delivers. But you have to get him the ball (like against Mexico) and you actually have to play him.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 92,367

    England shitting the bed against Argentina again.

    Another coach that needs sacking.
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