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  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 59,074
    I'll be honest I don't think I'd even heard of Curacao and certainly would not have been able to find it on the map. The fact they have qualified shows, once again, that the Europeans have it really tough. Its a bit unfair really.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 40,258
    Just found out that Sean_T's father was a Russian translator, amongst many other things.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D._M._Thomas
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 2,330
    nico67 said:

    The Australian social media ban for under 16s has been a failure .

    Parents have to take more responsibility instead of expecting governments to do the job for them . The public seem to want a ban and it polls well but sadly I just don’t see it working .

    It will be interesting to see the social demographic in 12 months of Parents who enforce it and those that don't.

    Government can provide technical regulations and legal protections but parents gave to parent.

    This is over and above what many expected and a positive attempt atvsolving a growing issue.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 33,654
    edited 5:59PM
    DougSeal said:

    MattW said:

    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    malcolmg said:

    FF43 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Andy Burnham promises to keep the state pension triple lock if he becomes PM

    https://x.com/politlcsuk/status/2066132953785118852?s=46&t=Gsn9rlDEZH5vXP97Cgifnw

    Question. Is there any major politician committed to removing the state pension triple lock?
    From what I'm hearing on this thread, doing so would be absolute political gold dust. I'm amazed all our politicians are failing to appreciate the magic.
    you mistake PB for public opinion, not all out there have the mullah that posters here have.
    Regular pb.com posters are overwhelmingly males over the age of 60 who either don't work, don't need to work, or officially work but barely bother.

    Opinions tend to be conventional liberal centre-left, with a few exceptions.
    Except I could right now off the top of my head list out 50 regular posters who are not at all conventional liberal centre-left.

    I'm not going to, all will be relieved to hear, but I definitely could.
    Go on then. Name the 50.
    Too torrid. But you'd be there obviously. And just from this page of this thread, so a tiny sample, Malcolm, Lucky, Blanche, Alga, RCS, Bart, TSE, Jim, Malmesbury, Contrarian, Williamglenn ... that's a dozen already.

    Can't move for all you not-centre-lefters.
    That's eleven, and the posting frequency is far less.

    Against that there's Chris, NigelB, Bondegezou, Kinabulu, Foxy, MexicanPete, Roger, "Peter", Dura, OnlyLivingBoy, OldKingCole, Murali_S, Tres, Eabhal, FF43, Brixian59, Jonathan, RochdalePioneers, Nico67, SandyRentool, DecrepiterJohnL, DougSeal etc. which is double your count for a start, and the posting rate is far higher.

    Now, don't get me wrong, I'm personally fond of many of those posters. But you can't argue that's what dominates the site.
    12. You didn't count you.

    And that's not apples and pears. My 12 were just this page this thread. You've done a general trawl. If I did that I'd be listing lots more.

    No, the charge of big leftish bias just isn't correct. A charge of 'liberal' bias maybe has more going for it. Not sure though. I'd need to check my files.
    I have Eabhal and DougSeal as being basically centre-right not centre-left, plus we have Barnes Observer, the Moth Collector from Devon, the Conservative chap from the Lake District (not doing well with names), and iirc AnneJGP, and at least 8 members of the Leonine Order.

    I'm delighted not to be pigeon-holed !
    First time anyone’s called me centre right in my life! I’ve been quiet because I self identify as left liberal but interested to see other’s perceptions of me differ from my own. I was a member of the LDs for a very short period and even joined the mailing list of the local Co-Operative Party but that may just be tribalism.
    Yes - a one dimensional spectrum no longer works.

    I've always been centre-right economically - back in the 1990s others called me a Thatcherite, and more of a liberal individualist socially / morally, with a big dose of a proper communitarianism based on decades of involvement with people in the "intentional community" movement. That is very different from the New Labour usage of the term, which was more about categorising people into groups.

    I'm currently considering what needs to be reassessed looking at the remaining wreckage of the Cons, which I joined to give my voice towards the levelling-up agenda (which turned out to be a smokescreen).

    I think the key movement we need to rescue our politics is around civic engagement at a local level, with a smidgeon of community activism as happens in the USA, but with a politics around commonwealth, not ideology or fear and loathing.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 24,392
    It seems a bit weird to argue about whether the bias on PB.com is more to the left or the right, when obviously the site is way more biased towards being male, educated and numerate.

    PB.com is by far the most right-wing environment I have ever spent time in, save for those limited periods when I obstructed National Front or EDL marches, but that is because I'm pretty left-wing and generally move in pretty left-wing social circles.

    It's not surprising that our right-wing posters experience PB.com as biased to the left, for similar reasons.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 89,936
    .

    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    malcolmg said:

    FF43 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Andy Burnham promises to keep the state pension triple lock if he becomes PM

    https://x.com/politlcsuk/status/2066132953785118852?s=46&t=Gsn9rlDEZH5vXP97Cgifnw

    Question. Is there any major politician committed to removing the state pension triple lock?
    From what I'm hearing on this thread, doing so would be absolute political gold dust. I'm amazed all our politicians are failing to appreciate the magic.
    you mistake PB for public opinion, not all out there have the mullah that posters here have.
    Regular pb.com posters are overwhelmingly males over the age of 60 who either don't work, don't need to work, or officially work but barely bother.

    Opinions tend to be conventional liberal centre-left, with a few exceptions.
    Except I could right now off the top of my head list out 50 regular posters who are not at all conventional liberal centre-left.

    I'm not going to, all will be relieved to hear, but I definitely could.
    Go on then. Name the 50.
    Too torrid. But you'd be there obviously. And just from this page of this thread, so a tiny sample, Malcolm, Lucky, Blanche, Alga, RCS, Bart, TSE, Jim, Malmesbury, Contrarian, Williamglenn ... that's a dozen already.

    Can't move for all you not-centre-lefters.
    That's eleven, and the posting frequency is far less.

    Against that there's Chris, NigelB, Bondegezou, Kinabulu, Foxy, MexicanPete, Roger, "Peter", Dura, OnlyLivingBoy, OldKingCole, Murali_S, Tres, Eabhal, FF43, Brixian59, Jonathan, RochdalePioneers, Nico67, SandyRentool, DecrepiterJohnL, DougSeal etc. which is double your count for a start, and the posting rate is far higher.

    Now, don't get me wrong, I'm personally fond of many of those posters. But you can't argue that's what dominates the site.
    Can't blame us for that.
    The solution lies in your hands.

    In any event, I have relatively little in common with (say) Roger or Brixian.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 72,546
    DavidL said:

    I'll be honest I don't think I'd even heard of Curacao and certainly would not have been able to find it on the map. The fact they have qualified shows, once again, that the Europeans have it really tough. Its a bit unfair really.

    I had to look them up. Seems they are basically Dutch.

  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 2,330

    Brixian59 said:

    Sir Lewis Hamilton is the 🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐

    I kid you not!
    Very lucky today

    He wins when he's in the best car or lucky

    True greats like Senna, Verstappen could win in decent Cars.

    Hamilton is the equivalent of a flat track bully.
    But what did Gary Player say? "The harder I practice, the luckier I get"
    Indeed

    Seeing Hamilton winning in a Ferrari is also far far more palatable than for Mercedes especially the nob Toto Wolff
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 28,852
    DavidL said:

    I'll be honest I don't think I'd even heard of Curacao and certainly would not have been able to find it on the map. The fact they have qualified shows, once again, that the Europeans have it really tough. Its a bit unfair really.

    Curacao will be a bit blue that you had not heard of them.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 21,105

    It seems a bit weird to argue about whether the bias on PB.com is more to the left or the right, when obviously the site is way more biased towards being male, educated and numerate.

    PB.com is by far the most right-wing environment I have ever spent time in, save for those limited periods when I obstructed National Front or EDL marches, but that is because I'm pretty left-wing and generally move in pretty left-wing social circles.

    It's not surprising that our right-wing posters experience PB.com as biased to the left, for similar reasons.

    Casino had conniptions because two Middle Eastern-looking men revved their motorbikes near him. I think he’s a bit prone to seeing dangers all around him!
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 59,934
    DavidL said:

    I'll be honest I don't think I'd even heard of Curacao and certainly would not have been able to find it on the map. The fact they have qualified shows, once again, that the Europeans have it really tough. Its a bit unfair really.

    One of three Dutch islands off the coast of Venezuela:

    Aruba
    Bonaire
    Curacao
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 36,510
    Andy_JS said:

    Just found out that Sean_T's father was a Russian translator, amongst many other things.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D._M._Thomas

    PB nepo babies – Leon and rcs.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 72,546
    I missed this earlier but Burnham has apparently said the Triple Lock will stay.

    Yet another non-serious politician.

    When will it end?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 59,934
    Ooops! 4-1 now, so soon after the re-start.
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 28,852

    I missed this earlier but Burnham has apparently said the Triple Lock will stay.

    Yet another non-serious politician.

    When will it end?

    Between WASPI and the Triple Lock its not been a good week.

    Might get himself into 10 Downing Street, which might be Mission Accomplished as per Kier, but if he wants to actually enact some change unlike Kier he needs to start making some tough choices and fast.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 25,561

    It seems a bit weird to argue about whether the bias on PB.com is more to the left or the right, when obviously the site is way more biased towards being male, educated and numerate.

    PB.com is by far the most right-wing environment I have ever spent time in, save for those limited periods when I obstructed National Front or EDL marches, but that is because I'm pretty left-wing and generally move in pretty left-wing social circles.

    It's not surprising that our right-wing posters experience PB.com as biased to the left, for similar reasons.

    I've worked for engineering companies. Now there's a right-wing environment.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 28,890
    Andy_JS said:

    Just found out that Sean_T's father was a Russian translator, amongst many other things.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D._M._Thomas

    See also https://spectator.com/article/self-abuse/
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 17,465

    I missed this earlier but Burnham has apparently said the Triple Lock will stay.

    Yet another non-serious politician.

    When will it end?

    Do you think he would get elected if he said otherwise?
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 72,546
    Fairly lengthy tweet thread from Fraser about how Mahmood is basically the dog's bollocks.


    https://x.com/FraserNelson/status/2066138528522633475
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 28,852
    algarkirk said:

    I missed this earlier but Burnham has apparently said the Triple Lock will stay.

    Yet another non-serious politician.

    When will it end?

    Do you think he would get elected if he said otherwise?
    Quite possibly, yes. Pensioners do not make up the Labour Party membership.

    He could also be non-committal.

    Either way though, if you're going to screw the country just to get elected, you won't be able to do any good once elected.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 46,517
    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    malcolmg said:

    FF43 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Andy Burnham promises to keep the state pension triple lock if he becomes PM

    https://x.com/politlcsuk/status/2066132953785118852?s=46&t=Gsn9rlDEZH5vXP97Cgifnw

    Question. Is there any major politician committed to removing the state pension triple lock?
    From what I'm hearing on this thread, doing so would be absolute political gold dust. I'm amazed all our politicians are failing to appreciate the magic.
    you mistake PB for public opinion, not all out there have the mullah that posters here have.
    Regular pb.com posters are overwhelmingly males over the age of 60 who either don't work, don't need to work, or officially work but barely bother.

    Opinions tend to be conventional liberal centre-left, with a few exceptions.
    Except I could right now off the top of my head list out 50 regular posters who are not at all conventional liberal centre-left.

    I'm not going to, all will be relieved to hear, but I definitely could.
    Go on then. Name the 50.
    Too torrid. But you'd be there obviously. And just from this page of this thread, so a tiny sample, Malcolm, Lucky, Blanche, Alga, RCS, Bart, TSE, Jim, Malmesbury, Contrarian, Williamglenn ... that's a dozen already.

    Can't move for all you not-centre-lefters.
    I made first place
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 24,392

    It seems a bit weird to argue about whether the bias on PB.com is more to the left or the right, when obviously the site is way more biased towards being male, educated and numerate.

    PB.com is by far the most right-wing environment I have ever spent time in, save for those limited periods when I obstructed National Front or EDL marches, but that is because I'm pretty left-wing and generally move in pretty left-wing social circles.

    It's not surprising that our right-wing posters experience PB.com as biased to the left, for similar reasons.

    I've worked for engineering companies. Now there's a right-wing environment.
    All my workplaces have always been resolutely apolitical. When I worked for the public sector this was actually enforced by our Union (Prospect) who didn't want any whiff of politics.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 43,564
    malcolmg said:

    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    malcolmg said:

    FF43 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Andy Burnham promises to keep the state pension triple lock if he becomes PM

    https://x.com/politlcsuk/status/2066132953785118852?s=46&t=Gsn9rlDEZH5vXP97Cgifnw

    Question. Is there any major politician committed to removing the state pension triple lock?
    From what I'm hearing on this thread, doing so would be absolute political gold dust. I'm amazed all our politicians are failing to appreciate the magic.
    you mistake PB for public opinion, not all out there have the mullah that posters here have.
    Regular pb.com posters are overwhelmingly males over the age of 60 who either don't work, don't need to work, or officially work but barely bother.

    Opinions tend to be conventional liberal centre-left, with a few exceptions.
    Except I could right now off the top of my head list out 50 regular posters who are not at all conventional liberal centre-left.

    I'm not going to, all will be relieved to hear, but I definitely could.
    Go on then. Name the 50.
    Too torrid. But you'd be there obviously. And just from this page of this thread, so a tiny sample, Malcolm, Lucky, Blanche, Alga, RCS, Bart, TSE, Jim, Malmesbury, Contrarian, Williamglenn ... that's a dozen already.

    Can't move for all you not-centre-lefters.
    I made first place
    Top of the group...
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 17,465

    It seems a bit weird to argue about whether the bias on PB.com is more to the left or the right, when obviously the site is way more biased towards being male, educated and numerate.

    PB.com is by far the most right-wing environment I have ever spent time in, save for those limited periods when I obstructed National Front or EDL marches, but that is because I'm pretty left-wing and generally move in pretty left-wing social circles.

    It's not surprising that our right-wing posters experience PB.com as biased to the left, for similar reasons.

    Isn't quality of argument the only thing that really counts? That and being able to predict winners.

    Any view can be regarded as having 'bias'. But so what? To regard a reasoned view as having bias is just to say it reflects a reasoned point of view. It adds nothing. Unreasoned stuff can be passed over.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 43,564
    @chadbourn.bsky.social‬

    Trump told Netanyahu "What the fuck are you doing?!" after the strike in Lebanon, Fox reports. He urged Netanyahu not to carry out any further attacks as it could jeopardise any deal with Iran.

    Iran has rejected Trump's offer of financial incentives not to respond to Israeli strikes on Lebanon, Channel 12 reports.

    Trump can’t understand that there are people who don’t do anything for money.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 25,561

    Fairly lengthy tweet thread from Fraser about how Mahmood is basically the dog's bollocks.


    https://x.com/FraserNelson/status/2066138528522633475

    I agree with him. Mahmood needs to stay as Home Sec to keep up the good work.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 59,074
    edited 6:25PM

    It seems a bit weird to argue about whether the bias on PB.com is more to the left or the right, when obviously the site is way more biased towards being male, educated and numerate.

    PB.com is by far the most right-wing environment I have ever spent time in, save for those limited periods when I obstructed National Front or EDL marches, but that is because I'm pretty left-wing and generally move in pretty left-wing social circles.

    It's not surprising that our right-wing posters experience PB.com as biased to the left, for similar reasons.

    Male, educated and numerate pretty much sums PB up (with important honourable exceptions like @Cyclefree, @fitalass and probably a few more that I am not sure of ( @kimbalu)). Whilst I would be delighted to have more female perspectives educated and numerate is a definite improvement on most public debate I have found anywhere else.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 43,564
    @chadbourn.bsky.social‬

    Netanyahu has also rejected Trump's demands to cease fire in Lebanon and withdraw, Ynet reports.

    Not having a very good birthday, is he?
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 50,916
    DavidL said:

    It seems a bit weird to argue about whether the bias on PB.com is more to the left or the right, when obviously the site is way more biased towards being male, educated and numerate.

    PB.com is by far the most right-wing environment I have ever spent time in, save for those limited periods when I obstructed National Front or EDL marches, but that is because I'm pretty left-wing and generally move in pretty left-wing social circles.

    It's not surprising that our right-wing posters experience PB.com as biased to the left, for similar reasons.

    Male, educated and numerate pretty much sums PB up (with important honourable exceptions like @Cyclefree, @fitalass and probably a few more that I am not sure of ( @kimbalu)). Whilst I would be delighted to have more female perspectives educated and numerate is a definite improvement on most public debate I have found anywhere else.
    I am numerate, David. Can confirm.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 47,984

    Fairly lengthy tweet thread from Fraser about how Mahmood is basically the dog's bollocks.


    https://x.com/FraserNelson/status/2066138528522633475

    I don’t think anyone would doubt that Shabs has the ex-Speccie editor vote. In fact doesn’t the current one harbour impure thoughts towards her?
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 25,561

    It seems a bit weird to argue about whether the bias on PB.com is more to the left or the right, when obviously the site is way more biased towards being male, educated and numerate.

    PB.com is by far the most right-wing environment I have ever spent time in, save for those limited periods when I obstructed National Front or EDL marches, but that is because I'm pretty left-wing and generally move in pretty left-wing social circles.

    It's not surprising that our right-wing posters experience PB.com as biased to the left, for similar reasons.

    I've worked for engineering companies. Now there's a right-wing environment.
    All my workplaces have always been resolutely apolitical. When I worked for the public sector this was actually enforced by our Union (Prospect) who didn't want any whiff of politics.
    Does that mean you were banned from talking politics in the workplace?

    What about the pub after work?
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 24,392
    edited 6:31PM
    algarkirk said:

    It seems a bit weird to argue about whether the bias on PB.com is more to the left or the right, when obviously the site is way more biased towards being male, educated and numerate.

    PB.com is by far the most right-wing environment I have ever spent time in, save for those limited periods when I obstructed National Front or EDL marches, but that is because I'm pretty left-wing and generally move in pretty left-wing social circles.

    It's not surprising that our right-wing posters experience PB.com as biased to the left, for similar reasons.

    Isn't quality of argument the only thing that really counts? That and being able to predict winners.

    Any view can be regarded as having 'bias'. But so what? To regard a reasoned view as having bias is just to say it reflects a reasoned point of view. It adds nothing. Unreasoned stuff can be passed over.
    I am here because of the reasoned arguments contributed, and the insight those sometimes contain, yes. It's helpful for those reasoned arguments to come from a wide variety of political philosophies, and I find the context of political betting to be useful for developing arguments.
  • Jim_MillerJim_Miller Posts: 3,904
    Thanks to viewcode for that clarification of the map I posted. A little more on the map: The red mass on that map, starting with Texas, and going all the way to Florida and Virginia was long known as the "Solid South", which meant simply that those states voted Democratic in presidential elections. That lasted (with a few interesting exceptions) from after the disputed 1876 election to the 1952 election of Eisenhower, who carried Texas, Tennessee, Florida, Virginia, and Maryland. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1952_United_States_presidential_election
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 56,959

    I missed this earlier but Burnham has apparently said the Triple Lock will stay.

    Yet another non-serious politician.

    When will it end?

    I would interpret that as meaning for the duration of this Parliament, honouring the manifesto.

    I do not think anyone has commited to it for their next manifesto. Perhaps the Tories have.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 24,392

    It seems a bit weird to argue about whether the bias on PB.com is more to the left or the right, when obviously the site is way more biased towards being male, educated and numerate.

    PB.com is by far the most right-wing environment I have ever spent time in, save for those limited periods when I obstructed National Front or EDL marches, but that is because I'm pretty left-wing and generally move in pretty left-wing social circles.

    It's not surprising that our right-wing posters experience PB.com as biased to the left, for similar reasons.

    I've worked for engineering companies. Now there's a right-wing environment.
    All my workplaces have always been resolutely apolitical. When I worked for the public sector this was actually enforced by our Union (Prospect) who didn't want any whiff of politics.
    Does that mean you were banned from talking politics in the workplace?

    What about the pub after work?
    Pretty much, yes. It kinda bled over. People would be cagey about saying anything.

    I had much more political conversations with the parents of my daughter's schoolfriends.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 59,074
    Foxy said:

    I missed this earlier but Burnham has apparently said the Triple Lock will stay.

    Yet another non-serious politician.

    When will it end?

    I would interpret that as meaning for the duration of this Parliament, honouring the manifesto.

    I do not think anyone has commited to it for their next manifesto. Perhaps the Tories have.
    It really should be a disqualification for office that you are willing to make such commitments. It shows you that they are not serious.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 28,081
    Foxy said:

    I missed this earlier but Burnham has apparently said the Triple Lock will stay.

    Yet another non-serious politician.

    When will it end?

    I would interpret that as meaning for the duration of this Parliament, honouring the manifesto.

    I do not think anyone has commited to it for their next manifesto. Perhaps the Tories have.
    Voters back the triple lock about 6:1 so all parties are effectively committed to it, manifesto or common sense be damned.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 59,934
    5-1!
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 72,546
    Foxy said:

    I missed this earlier but Burnham has apparently said the Triple Lock will stay.

    Yet another non-serious politician.

    When will it end?

    I would interpret that as meaning for the duration of this Parliament, honouring the manifesto.

    I do not think anyone has commited to it for their next manifesto. Perhaps the Tories have.
    The Russians can make 1000s of drones a week and we are giving more £ to pensioners with a £50K+ private annual pension.

    Madness on stilts.

  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 39,981
    viewcode said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Just found out that Sean_T's father was a Russian translator, amongst many other things.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D._M._Thomas

    See also https://spectator.com/article/self-abuse/
    What a w⚓!
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 36,510
    Big Rupe is agin the social media ban.

    Banning teenagers from social media with ludicrous conditions is unworkable, unrealistic and unwanted.

    Here’s a mad idea - let parents parent.

    Not the state, but mums, dads, grandparents or whoever else.

    Restore Britain will always trust the family over big government.

    https://x.com/RupertLowe10/status/2066160838465999106?s=20
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 43,564
    @chadbourn.bsky.social‬

    The Supreme National Security Council of the Islamic Republic regime: “We will respond to Israel's attack on Beirut.”
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 36,510

    5-1!

    Get used to it. All the groups (or most of them anyway – I've not checked) contain minnows.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 35,362
    Scott_xP said:

    @chadbourn.bsky.social‬

    Netanyahu has also rejected Trump's demands to cease fire in Lebanon and withdraw, Ynet reports.

    Not having a very good birthday, is he?

    Just stop the weapons. You can hardly tell them to stop but keep supplying them with the means to do so.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 35,362

    Big Rupe is agin the social media ban.

    Banning teenagers from social media with ludicrous conditions is unworkable, unrealistic and unwanted.

    Here’s a mad idea - let parents parent.

    Not the state, but mums, dads, grandparents or whoever else.

    Restore Britain will always trust the family over big government.

    https://x.com/RupertLowe10/status/2066160838465999106?s=20

    Hmmm.

    Strong smell of not wanting to upset the sugar daddy there.
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 8,359
    So Netenyahu is out of control and this just feeds into the narrative that’s growing in the USA that Trump is his gimp.

    The only way Netenyahu stops is if the USA threatens to withhold military aid .
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 35,362

    Big Rupe is agin the social media ban.

    Banning teenagers from social media with ludicrous conditions is unworkable, unrealistic and unwanted.

    Here’s a mad idea - let parents parent.

    Not the state, but mums, dads, grandparents or whoever else.

    Restore Britain will always trust the family over big government.

    https://x.com/RupertLowe10/status/2066160838465999106?s=20

    Hmmm.

    Strong smell of not wanting to upset the sugar daddy there.
    Not that I'm sure he's even wrong. I don't really know where I stand on it. I think it's the hardware I'm opposed to, not just the software.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 43,564
    nico67 said:

    So Netenyahu is out of control and this just feeds into the narrative that’s growing in the USA that Trump is his gimp.

    The only way Netenyahu stops is if the USA threatens to withhold military aid .

    It has always been ridiculous that the GOP claims Donny as some kind of Alpha Male that everyone is subservient to while he bows and scrapes to Israel, and Russia, and North Korea.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 35,362
    kinabalu said:

    DavidL said:

    It seems a bit weird to argue about whether the bias on PB.com is more to the left or the right, when obviously the site is way more biased towards being male, educated and numerate.

    PB.com is by far the most right-wing environment I have ever spent time in, save for those limited periods when I obstructed National Front or EDL marches, but that is because I'm pretty left-wing and generally move in pretty left-wing social circles.

    It's not surprising that our right-wing posters experience PB.com as biased to the left, for similar reasons.

    Male, educated and numerate pretty much sums PB up (with important honourable exceptions like @Cyclefree, @fitalass and probably a few more that I am not sure of ( @kimbalu)). Whilst I would be delighted to have more female perspectives educated and numerate is a definite improvement on most public debate I have found anywhere else.
    I am numerate, David. Can confirm.
    I'm not.
  • Stark_DawningStark_Dawning Posts: 10,805

    Big Rupe is agin the social media ban.

    Banning teenagers from social media with ludicrous conditions is unworkable, unrealistic and unwanted.

    Here’s a mad idea - let parents parent.

    Not the state, but mums, dads, grandparents or whoever else.

    Restore Britain will always trust the family over big government.

    https://x.com/RupertLowe10/status/2066160838465999106?s=20

    By the same 'reasoning' shouldn't you then give children access to fags, porn, alcohol and gambling, and then say it's up to the parents to manage it?
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 47,984
    nico67 said:

    So Netenyahu is out of control and this just feeds into the narrative that’s growing in the USA that Trump is his gimp.

    The only way Netenyahu stops is if the USA threatens to withhold military aid .

    Perhaps the Epstein-Mossad thing has a grain of truth. I’ve said before that Trump doesn’t give a toss about possible peeing Moscow prostitutes but he and his cabal really do seem to be running scared of the Epstein files.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 28,081

    Big Rupe is agin the social media ban.

    Banning teenagers from social media with ludicrous conditions is unworkable, unrealistic and unwanted.

    Here’s a mad idea - let parents parent.

    Not the state, but mums, dads, grandparents or whoever else.

    Restore Britain will always trust the family over big government.

    https://x.com/RupertLowe10/status/2066160838465999106?s=20

    By the same 'reasoning' shouldn't you then give children access to fags, porn, alcohol and gambling, and then say it's up to the parents to manage it?
    That would create a load of rich investors who would seek to lobby/bribe politicians to ensure they can keep selling their addictions freely. Sounds like a good deal for the politicians.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 72,546

    Big Rupe is agin the social media ban.

    Banning teenagers from social media with ludicrous conditions is unworkable, unrealistic and unwanted.

    Here’s a mad idea - let parents parent.

    Not the state, but mums, dads, grandparents or whoever else.

    Restore Britain will always trust the family over big government.

    https://x.com/RupertLowe10/status/2066160838465999106?s=20

    Hmmm.

    Strong smell of not wanting to upset the sugar daddy there.
    Not that I'm sure he's even wrong. I don't really know where I stand on it. I think it's the hardware I'm opposed to, not just the software.
    His argument rests on family pressure being enough to counteract the addiction algorithms.

    I'd like to think that is true but I need to be convinced.

    There's a multi-billion $ payday vs Mom and Pop.

  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 72,546

    5-1!

    Get used to it. All the groups (or most of them anyway – I've not checked) contain minnows.
    The Group stage is basically a warm up for the main teams.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 72,546
    6 now
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 72,546

    (((Dan Hodges)))
    @DPJHodges
    ·
    5m
    OK, I’m a little concerned for Curaçao now…
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 72,546
    Obama would win a third term on a landslide.

    If it was allowed.

    Go on Supreme Court - make my day.


    Obama: "It's a reminder that on a lot of different foreign policy problems
    https://x.com/atrupar/status/2066152796429115847
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 59,934

    6 now

    7!
  • TresTres Posts: 3,684

    Andy_JS said:

    Just found out that Sean_T's father was a Russian translator, amongst many other things.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D._M._Thomas

    PB nepo babies – Leon and rcs.
    jesus christ
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 22,990

    Big Rupe is agin the social media ban.

    Banning teenagers from social media with ludicrous conditions is unworkable, unrealistic and unwanted.

    Here’s a mad idea - let parents parent.

    Not the state, but mums, dads, grandparents or whoever else.

    Restore Britain will always trust the family over big government.

    https://x.com/RupertLowe10/status/2066160838465999106?s=20

    Hmmm.

    Strong smell of not wanting to upset the sugar daddy there.
    Not that I'm sure he's even wrong. I don't really know where I stand on it. I think it's the hardware I'm opposed to, not just the software.
    His argument rests on family pressure being enough to counteract the addiction algorithms.

    I'd like to think that is true but I need to be convinced.

    There's a multi-billion $ payday vs Mom and Pop.

    Not even that- there are some children who have the misfortune to be born to terrible parents. And those children are very liable to be very expensive for society to deal with for decades to come.

    A lot of "parents should be trusted to do X/Y/Z" comes down to a reluctance for the state to have to pay to do anything about X/Y/Z right now. After all the costs will land on the next generation.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 22,990

    6 now

    7!
    5040 goals? Blimey, that's a one-sided match.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 9,322
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 25,561

    Big Rupe is agin the social media ban.

    Banning teenagers from social media with ludicrous conditions is unworkable, unrealistic and unwanted.

    Here’s a mad idea - let parents parent.

    Not the state, but mums, dads, grandparents or whoever else.

    Restore Britain will always trust the family over big government.

    https://x.com/RupertLowe10/status/2066160838465999106?s=20

    Hmmm.

    Strong smell of not wanting to upset the sugar daddy there.
    Not that I'm sure he's even wrong. I don't really know where I stand on it. I think it's the hardware I'm opposed to, not just the software.
    His argument rests on family pressure being enough to counteract the addiction algorithms.

    I'd like to think that is true but I need to be convinced.

    There's a multi-billion $ payday vs Mom and Pop.

    Not even that- there are some children who have the misfortune to be born to terrible parents. And those children are very liable to be very expensive for society to deal with for decades to come.

    A lot of "parents should be trusted to do X/Y/Z" comes down to a reluctance for the state to have to pay to do anything about X/Y/Z right now. After all the costs will land on the next generation.
    A lot of people are scum. And if we leave them to it, we end up with another generation of scum.

    So we either need intervention or sterilisation to try and prevent this.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 13,504
    Group B’s scorecard seems very appropriate for a group containing both Canada and Switzerland
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 13,504

    Thanks to viewcode for that clarification of the map I posted. A little more on the map: The red mass on that map, starting with Texas, and going all the way to Florida and Virginia was long known as the "Solid South", which meant simply that those states voted Democratic in presidential elections. That lasted (with a few interesting exceptions) from after the disputed 1876 election to the 1952 election of Eisenhower, who carried Texas, Tennessee, Florida, Virginia, and Maryland. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1952_United_States_presidential_election

    The Dixiecrats were a charming bunch
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 63,717
    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    Malmesbury, sorry, that was a Leon joke from you there, wasn't it. V good.

    You win the

    Attlee wasn't a centrist. He did the welly state.
    Stalin murdered most of Lenin’s close associates. On the grounds that they were… Centrists.
  • TresTres Posts: 3,684

    Tres said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Just found out that Sean_T's father was a Russian translator, amongst many other things.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D._M._Thomas

    PB nepo babies – Leon and rcs.
    jesus christ
    The ultimate nepo baby?
    that was the joke yes
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 13,504

    Thanks to viewcode for that clarification of the map I posted. A little more on the map: The red mass on that map, starting with Texas, and going all the way to Florida and Virginia was long known as the "Solid South", which meant simply that those states voted Democratic in presidential elections. That lasted (with a few interesting exceptions) from after the disputed 1876 election to the 1952 election of Eisenhower, who carried Texas, Tennessee, Florida, Virginia, and Maryland. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1952_United_States_presidential_election

    It seems to me that Trump has united the Know Nothings and the Southern Democrats, which basically gives him the edge in politics.

    You seem a student of American politics - thoughts?
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 50,916

    Thanks to viewcode for that clarification of the map I posted. A little more on the map: The red mass on that map, starting with Texas, and going all the way to Florida and Virginia was long known as the "Solid South", which meant simply that those states voted Democratic in presidential elections. That lasted (with a few interesting exceptions) from after the disputed 1876 election to the 1952 election of Eisenhower, who carried Texas, Tennessee, Florida, Virginia, and Maryland. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1952_United_States_presidential_election

    The Dixiecrats were a charming bunch
    They've found a new home now. The other lot.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 36,510

    5-1!

    Get used to it. All the groups (or most of them anyway – I've not checked) contain minnows.
    The Group stage is basically a warm up for the main teams.
    Even more so this year with 48 countries (up from 32 four years ago).
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 36,510

    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    Malmesbury, sorry, that was a Leon joke from you there, wasn't it. V good.

    You win the

    Attlee wasn't a centrist. He did the welly state.
    Stalin murdered most of Lenin’s close associates. On the grounds that they were… Centrists.
    Knowing Stalin, I'm sure he'd have found some other reason if they were not.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 37,094
    edited 7:15PM

    kinabalu said:

    DavidL said:

    It seems a bit weird to argue about whether the bias on PB.com is more to the left or the right, when obviously the site is way more biased towards being male, educated and numerate.

    PB.com is by far the most right-wing environment I have ever spent time in, save for those limited periods when I obstructed National Front or EDL marches, but that is because I'm pretty left-wing and generally move in pretty left-wing social circles.

    It's not surprising that our right-wing posters experience PB.com as biased to the left, for similar reasons.

    Male, educated and numerate pretty much sums PB up (with important honourable exceptions like @Cyclefree, @fitalass and probably a few more that I am not sure of ( @kimbalu)). Whilst I would be delighted to have more female perspectives educated and numerate is a definite improvement on most public debate I have found anywhere else.
    I am numerate, David. Can confirm.
    I'm not.
    I've long suspected as much, given you think Truss's mini-budget was good.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 13,504
    kinabalu said:

    Thanks to viewcode for that clarification of the map I posted. A little more on the map: The red mass on that map, starting with Texas, and going all the way to Florida and Virginia was long known as the "Solid South", which meant simply that those states voted Democratic in presidential elections. That lasted (with a few interesting exceptions) from after the disputed 1876 election to the 1952 election of Eisenhower, who carried Texas, Tennessee, Florida, Virginia, and Maryland. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1952_United_States_presidential_election

    The Dixiecrats were a charming bunch
    They've found a new home now. The other lot.
    Yes
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 37,094

    Foxy said:

    I missed this earlier but Burnham has apparently said the Triple Lock will stay.

    Yet another non-serious politician.

    When will it end?

    I would interpret that as meaning for the duration of this Parliament, honouring the manifesto.

    I do not think anyone has commited to it for their next manifesto. Perhaps the Tories have.
    The Russians can make 1000s of drones a week and we are giving more £ to pensioners with a £50K+ private annual pension.

    Madness on stilts.

    The simple answer, or at least a step in the right direction, is to tax that pension income at the same levels as earned income, i.e. Income Tax and NI.
  • Andy_JS said:

    Just found out that Sean_T's father was a Russian translator, amongst many other things.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D._M._Thomas

    It begins with a T
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 60,010
    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    Malmesbury, sorry, that was a Leon joke from you there, wasn't it. V good.

    You win the

    Attlee wasn't a centrist. He did the welly state.
    Not to mention Arny Chess.

  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 72,276
    nico67 said:

    So Netenyahu is out of control and this just feeds into the narrative that’s growing in the USA that Trump is his gimp.

    The only way Netenyahu stops is if the USA threatens to withhold military aid .

    I was talking to our son about this today and in fact Israel provides miltary expertise to the US so it is not a one way street

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel–United_States_military_relations
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 4,881
    carnforth said:
    One of those links where the actual story does not quite match up with the mental image conjured up from the URL link.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 50,916

    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    Malmesbury, sorry, that was a Leon joke from you there, wasn't it. V good.

    You win the

    Attlee wasn't a centrist. He did the welly state.
    Not to mention Arny Chess.
    Yep. Also thanks to the left. And many of our civvy libs of course.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 50,916

    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    Malmesbury, sorry, that was a Leon joke from you there, wasn't it. V good.

    You win the

    Attlee wasn't a centrist. He did the welly state.
    Stalin murdered most of Lenin’s close associates. On the grounds that they were… Centrists.
    It's a cute trick giving moderation an 'ist'. Who did it first? Was it Genghis Khan?
  • boulayboulay Posts: 8,983
    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    Malmesbury, sorry, that was a Leon joke from you there, wasn't it. V good.

    You win the

    Attlee wasn't a centrist. He did the welly state.
    Stalin murdered most of Lenin’s close associates. On the grounds that they were… Centrists.
    It's a cute trick giving moderation an 'ist'. Who did it first? Was it Genghis Khan?
    Don’t you mean “Genghist”?
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 26,304
    edited 7:47PM
    DavidL said:

    It seems a bit weird to argue about whether the bias on PB.com is more to the left or the right, when obviously the site is way more biased towards being male, educated and numerate.

    PB.com is by far the most right-wing environment I have ever spent time in, save for those limited periods when I obstructed National Front or EDL marches, but that is because I'm pretty left-wing and generally move in pretty left-wing social circles.

    It's not surprising that our right-wing posters experience PB.com as biased to the left, for similar reasons.

    Male, educated and numerate pretty much sums PB up (with important honourable exceptions like @Cyclefree, @fitalass and probably a few more that I am not sure of ( @kimbalu)). Whilst I would be delighted to have more female perspectives educated and numerate is a definite improvement on most public debate I have found anywhere else.
    Are you suggesting, @DavidL, that I and @fitalass are not educated or numerate?

    Brave, very brave ...... 😁

    Also @kinabalu is male. An accountant. Worked at Lehmans. I will say no more.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 56,959
    DavidL said:

    Foxy said:

    I missed this earlier but Burnham has apparently said the Triple Lock will stay.

    Yet another non-serious politician.

    When will it end?

    I would interpret that as meaning for the duration of this Parliament, honouring the manifesto.

    I do not think anyone has commited to it for their next manifesto. Perhaps the Tories have.
    It really should be a disqualification for office that you are willing to make such commitments. It shows you that they are not serious.
    Unfortunately that disqualifies the entirety of Parliament!
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 50,916
    Cyclefree said:

    DavidL said:

    It seems a bit weird to argue about whether the bias on PB.com is more to the left or the right, when obviously the site is way more biased towards being male, educated and numerate.

    PB.com is by far the most right-wing environment I have ever spent time in, save for those limited periods when I obstructed National Front or EDL marches, but that is because I'm pretty left-wing and generally move in pretty left-wing social circles.

    It's not surprising that our right-wing posters experience PB.com as biased to the left, for similar reasons.

    Male, educated and numerate pretty much sums PB up (with important honourable exceptions like @Cyclefree, @fitalass and probably a few more that I am not sure of ( @kimbalu)). Whilst I would be delighted to have more female perspectives educated and numerate is a definite improvement on most public debate I have found anywhere else.
    Are you suggesting, @DavidL, that I and @fitalass are not educated or numerate?

    Brave, very brave ...... 😁

    Also @kinabalu is male. An accountant. Worked at Lehmans. I will say no more.
    But it wasn't my fault. I told them to rein it in. Wouldn't listen.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 29,553

    Foxy said:

    I missed this earlier but Burnham has apparently said the Triple Lock will stay.

    Yet another non-serious politician.

    When will it end?

    I would interpret that as meaning for the duration of this Parliament, honouring the manifesto.

    I do not think anyone has commited to it for their next manifesto. Perhaps the Tories have.
    The Russians can make 1000s of drones a week and we are giving more £ to pensioners with a £50K+ private annual pension.

    Madness on stilts.

    The simple answer, or at least a step in the right direction, is to tax that pension income at the same levels as earned income, i.e. Income Tax and NI.
    Pension contributions are made from income which has already had national insurance deducted.

    Unless that is they are made via salary sacrifice - which is soon to be heavily resticted.

    If you want to have the equivalent of national insurance to be charged on non-employment income the way to do so is to get rid of national insurance entirely and at the same time increase the rate of income tax.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,770
    British lawyers are always on holiday or asleep, claim US rivals

    Lawyers at American firms have vented their spleen online at London’s legal culture, amid accusations of a ‘pay war’ for the best British junior solicitors


    Americans may be late to footballing prowess, but for years their lawyers have been battling English counterparts for dominance of the international legal market.

    Now an episode of football-style handbags has broken out online between the two legal cultures as lawyers at leading US firms reportedly have been venting their spleen at City rivals whom they brand as “stuffy” and “always sleeping or on vacation”.

    A “big law” online forum has been humming with the views of anonymous lawyers at large US practices that make tough reading for their rivals in the City of London.

    One American lawyer described their counterpart at large London firms as “academic rather than practical”, “overly cautious” and unable to “take a view on anything.”

    Another reserved specific criticism of City lawyer Oxbridge graduates, who were described as being “socially coded to want to appear articulate and intelligent rather than efficient and direct”.

    More seriously, one US lawyer highlighted a spate of sexual harassment cases over recent years at City law firms by commenting that London lawyers “have sex with other people in the office at a much higher rate than Americans”.

    One American did have a positive comment, conceding that London rivals were stronger with the mutual language. City lawyers were seen to be better drafters, with UK documents being “much clearer than US drafting”.


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/law/article/lawyers-holiday-us-uk-hhbtq5lhf
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 56,959

    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    Malmesbury, sorry, that was a Leon joke from you there, wasn't it. V good.

    You win the

    Attlee wasn't a centrist. He did the welly state.
    Not to mention Arny Chess.

    And NATO and the British nuclear deterrent.

    An amazingly busy parliament considering the economic state of the post war period, and in the midst of decolonisation.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 56,959

    British lawyers are always on holiday or asleep, claim US rivals

    Lawyers at American firms have vented their spleen online at London’s legal culture, amid accusations of a ‘pay war’ for the best British junior solicitors


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/law/article/lawyers-holiday-us-uk-hhbtq5lhf

    Thats bollocks, not asleep, but rather on PB...
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 22,990

    British lawyers are always on holiday or asleep, claim US rivals

    Lawyers at American firms have vented their spleen online at London’s legal culture, amid accusations of a ‘pay war’ for the best British junior solicitors


    Americans may be late to footballing prowess, but for years their lawyers have been battling English counterparts for dominance of the international legal market.

    Now an episode of football-style handbags has broken out online between the two legal cultures as lawyers at leading US firms reportedly have been venting their spleen at City rivals whom they brand as “stuffy” and “always sleeping or on vacation”.

    A “big law” online forum has been humming with the views of anonymous lawyers at large US practices that make tough reading for their rivals in the City of London.

    One American lawyer described their counterpart at large London firms as “academic rather than practical”, “overly cautious” and unable to “take a view on anything.”

    Another reserved specific criticism of City lawyer Oxbridge graduates, who were described as being “socially coded to want to appear articulate and intelligent rather than efficient and direct”.

    More seriously, one US lawyer highlighted a spate of sexual harassment cases over recent years at City law firms by commenting that London lawyers “have sex with other people in the office at a much higher rate than Americans”.

    One American did have a positive comment, conceding that London rivals were stronger with the mutual language. City lawyers were seen to be better drafters, with UK documents being “much clearer than US drafting”.


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/law/article/lawyers-holiday-us-uk-hhbtq5lhf

    So who are the American lawyers having sex with?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 89,936
    Your reminder to stay the eff away from bungee or rope jumping.

    Woman dies after safety cord left off in Brazil rope jump

    https://www.channelnewsasia.com/world/brazil-rope-jump-safety-cord-woman-dies-6182501
    ..In videos of the Saturday accident circulating online, two men hoist the 21-year-old above their heads and launch her off Skeleton Bridge, in the interior of Sao Paulo state, while onlookers realise there is no safety mechanism attached and shout "Guys, the cord!"

    "The safety equipment was not properly secured at the time of the jump. The victim did not survive the fall," police said in a statement to AFP.

    Three men were arrested for "homicide with dolus eventualis" - meaning they were aware of the risk of death but went ahead anyway...
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 9,322

    British lawyers are always on holiday or asleep, claim US rivals

    Lawyers at American firms have vented their spleen online at London’s legal culture, amid accusations of a ‘pay war’ for the best British junior solicitors


    Americans may be late to footballing prowess, but for years their lawyers have been battling English counterparts for dominance of the international legal market.

    Now an episode of football-style handbags has broken out online between the two legal cultures as lawyers at leading US firms reportedly have been venting their spleen at City rivals whom they brand as “stuffy” and “always sleeping or on vacation”.

    A “big law” online forum has been humming with the views of anonymous lawyers at large US practices that make tough reading for their rivals in the City of London.

    One American lawyer described their counterpart at large London firms as “academic rather than practical”, “overly cautious” and unable to “take a view on anything.”

    Another reserved specific criticism of City lawyer Oxbridge graduates, who were described as being “socially coded to want to appear articulate and intelligent rather than efficient and direct”.

    More seriously, one US lawyer highlighted a spate of sexual harassment cases over recent years at City law firms by commenting that London lawyers “have sex with other people in the office at a much higher rate than Americans”.

    One American did have a positive comment, conceding that London rivals were stronger with the mutual language. City lawyers were seen to be better drafters, with UK documents being “much clearer than US drafting”.


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/law/article/lawyers-holiday-us-uk-hhbtq5lhf

    So who are the American lawyers having sex with?
    Each other's wives.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 56,959
    Nigelb said:

    Your reminder to stay the eff away from bungee or rope jumping.

    Woman dies after safety cord left off in Brazil rope jump

    https://www.channelnewsasia.com/world/brazil-rope-jump-safety-cord-woman-dies-6182501
    ..In videos of the Saturday accident circulating online, two men hoist the 21-year-old above their heads and launch her off Skeleton Bridge, in the interior of Sao Paulo state, while onlookers realise there is no safety mechanism attached and shout "Guys, the cord!"

    "The safety equipment was not properly secured at the time of the jump. The victim did not survive the fall," police said in a statement to AFP.

    Three men were arrested for "homicide with dolus eventualis" - meaning they were aware of the risk of death but went ahead anyway...

    A few years ago I acidentally did the Giant Tarzan Swing at Monteverde in Costa Rica:

    https://share.google/sP8xTpfPB5iW6bAGq

    It was only afterwards when I read the reviews that I found out that they had miscalculated a few months previously and broken someones legs.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,770
    I am still chuckling at the idea that Oxbridge educated lawyers lack directness.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 56,959

    I am still chuckling at the idea that Oxbridge educated lawyers lack directness.

    Yes, they are famous for their modesty and subtleness.
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 28,852
    Great to see the Commons are bringing back an identical Assisted Dying law to that which was passed last term. Good!

    Hopefully the Commons passes it, and the Lords can stop dicking around and act like adults and either choose reasonable amendments that the Commons accepts to improve the bill, or the Parliament Act sees it go through unamended since the elected chamber has passed it twice by that point.
  • eekeek Posts: 33,983

    Great to see the Commons are bringing back an identical Assisted Dying law to that which was passed last term. Good!

    Hopefully the Commons passes it, and the Lords can stop dicking around and act like adults and either choose reasonable amendments that the Commons accepts to improve the bill, or the Parliament Act sees it go through unamended since the elected chamber has passed it twice by that point.

    It's a Private Mermbers Bill and not part of the Government's Manifesto - the Parliament Act doesn't apply...
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 89,936
    Foxy said:

    Nigelb said:

    Your reminder to stay the eff away from bungee or rope jumping.

    Woman dies after safety cord left off in Brazil rope jump

    https://www.channelnewsasia.com/world/brazil-rope-jump-safety-cord-woman-dies-6182501
    ..In videos of the Saturday accident circulating online, two men hoist the 21-year-old above their heads and launch her off Skeleton Bridge, in the interior of Sao Paulo state, while onlookers realise there is no safety mechanism attached and shout "Guys, the cord!"

    "The safety equipment was not properly secured at the time of the jump. The victim did not survive the fall," police said in a statement to AFP.

    Three men were arrested for "homicide with dolus eventualis" - meaning they were aware of the risk of death but went ahead anyway...

    A few years ago I acidentally did the Giant Tarzan Swing at Monteverde in Costa Rica:

    https://share.google/sP8xTpfPB5iW6bAGq

    It was only afterwards when I read the reviews that I found out that they had miscalculated a few months previously and broken someones legs.
    Accidentally ?
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 72,276
    eek said:

    Great to see the Commons are bringing back an identical Assisted Dying law to that which was passed last term. Good!

    Hopefully the Commons passes it, and the Lords can stop dicking around and act like adults and either choose reasonable amendments that the Commons accepts to improve the bill, or the Parliament Act sees it go through unamended since the elected chamber has passed it twice by that point.

    It's a Private Mermbers Bill and not part of the Government's Manifesto - the Parliament Act doesn't apply...
    It should be remembered it only passed the Commons with a majority of 23 and due to the controversial nature of the bill it cannot be certain to pass again
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