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  • GaussianGaussian Posts: 916

    Gaussian said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Surely the games up this time?

    Does deputy Lammy become interim PM if Starmer resigns in disgrace?
    The guy who was Foreign Secretary when all this shit was happening?

    The perfect clean skin.
    Hah, good point.

    Looked it up, and apparently it would be up to the Cabinet "in consultation with the NEC", whatever that means. Probably someone who doesn't want the job permanently (anymore), like one Keir Starmer.
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 7,937

    GIN1138 said:

    Keep Calmer, Ditch Starmer :D

    @Sunil_Prasannan

    KEEP CALMER
    and
    OUST STARMER
    Keep Starmer; oust karma
    Starmer, Korma, something something
    HE WAS FOLLOWING THE RULES
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 60,418
    stodge said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Surely the games up this time?

    To use a cliched phrase, we still need the smoking gun.

    I confess I'm finding all the "explanations" giving credibility a decent turn on the rack but as yet I've yet to see that one detail which points directly to Starmer deliberately misleading Parliament as distinct from accidentally misleading by being given incorrect information.

    Nonetheless, it looks bad and clearly the vetting process revealed issues wirh Mandelson which were then overruled which looked risky then and now look disastrous.

    As is so often the case with these matters, it's back to who knew what and when.
    The smoking gun may be discovered next to the empty glass of whisky...
  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 9,628
    edited April 16
    News at 10 is for connoisseurs just now
    edit: Radio 4, that is
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 43,523
    Who leaked it, and why now?
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 41,579
    As unlikely as it seems I think Trump's blockade is working. From the jaws of defeat he might just snatch victory. My understanding is that Iran will run out of foreign currency within a few weeks which may end up with societal collapse because Iran imports a lot of its essential products.
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 7,937
    It’s most likely that Starmer is incompetent and dishonest; but he must be at least one of those
  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 9,628
    If there's going to be a scapegoat it looks like Ollie Robbins will be it
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 23,704

    It’s most likely that Starmer is incompetent and dishonest; but he must be at least one of those

    Both.

    Can give Boris a run for his money on the lying front.
  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 9,628
    Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive!
  • Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 15,649
    Pulpstar said:

    This is Boris levels of lieing quite honestly

    Yes, but who is doing the lying, and more important, why?

    We are still some way from knowing the answers to these questions.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 23,257

    It’s most likely that Starmer is incompetent and dishonest; but he must be at least one of those

    Both.

    Can give Boris a run for his money on the lying front.
    Big John was right all the way along! :open_mouth:
  • MelonBMelonB Posts: 17,363
    stodge said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Surely the games up this time?

    To use a cliched phrase, we still need the smoking gun.

    I confess I'm finding all the "explanations" giving credibility a decent turn on the rack but as yet I've yet to see that one detail which points directly to Starmer deliberately misleading Parliament as distinct from accidentally misleading by being given incorrect information.

    Nonetheless, it looks bad and clearly the vetting process revealed issues wirh Mandelson which were then overruled which looked risky then and now look disastrous.

    As is so often the case with these matters, it's back to who knew what and when.
    It’s ten times worse because the man stood up week after week and delivered pious orations about partygate. Very effectively too. Did he not realise he would then need to be absolutely squeaky clean in office?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,593
    edited April 16
    Disappointed none of you are fans of The Big Bang Theory.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 22,876
    Scott_xP said:

    Who leaked it, and why now?

    Whisper it. But Wes Streeting is doing a good job as Health Secretary, and Labour MPs are starting to notice. Was a narrative that his proximity to Mandelson had killed his leadership chances. I'm not so sure.


    https://x.com/DPJHodges/status/2044695958546448793

    After all, who else has career plans that need Starmer to go nowNowNOW?

    Whilst Rayner and Burnham are off the pitch and the next generation are still too green?
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 7,937
    edited April 16
    MelonB said:

    stodge said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Surely the games up this time?

    To use a cliched phrase, we still need the smoking gun.

    I confess I'm finding all the "explanations" giving credibility a decent turn on the rack but as yet I've yet to see that one detail which points directly to Starmer deliberately misleading Parliament as distinct from accidentally misleading by being given incorrect information.

    Nonetheless, it looks bad and clearly the vetting process revealed issues wirh Mandelson which were then overruled which looked risky then and now look disastrous.

    As is so often the case with these matters, it's back to who knew what and when.
    It’s ten times worse because the man stood up week after week and delivered pious orations about partygate. Very effectively too. Did he not realise he would then need to be absolutely squeaky clean in office?
    And partygate wasn’t a matter of state

    Ambassador to the USA is a huge job

    The Foreign Office had a successor ready to appoint, whom they then scuppered to anoint a man put forward by the PM

    And they never bothered to tell the PM about the security vetting?

    Heads must roll

  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 81,143
    On Olly Robbins, he wasn't in post when the decision was made; wasn't it Barton ?
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 28,790
    RFKjnr cut the penis off a raccoon

    https://x.com/TMZ/status/2044570256610357669#m
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 23,704
    GIN1138 said:

    It’s most likely that Starmer is incompetent and dishonest; but he must be at least one of those

    Both.

    Can give Boris a run for his money on the lying front.
    Big John was right all the way along! :open_mouth:
    On Mandleson being a mate of Epstein and Starmer being a useless liar I would claim. The former nearly got me a ban.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 103,814
    viewcode said:

    RFKjnr cut the penis off a raccoon

    https://x.com/TMZ/status/2044570256610357669#m

    Today?

    Wouldn't surprise.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 60,418
    I'm having to watch Newsnight, it's that big...
  • DoctorGDoctorG Posts: 766
    So what's the bets Starmer is out this year now?

    Is someone inside the party trying to deliberately undermine the Labour election campaign? And is there enough time to oust him before summer recess if he manages to hang on until the May election results
  • isamisam Posts: 44,230

    They should do a retrospective documentary on Mandelson where everybody tries to pretend they didn't know him:

    Tony Blair: "He kept himself to himself in the office. I just assumed he was a friend of Gordon's."

    .…
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 7,937
    I just had a vision of PMQs next week

    “That was was the vetting procedure that her party put in place”
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 56,870
    viewcode said:

    RFKjnr cut the penis off a raccoon

    https://x.com/TMZ/status/2044570256610357669#m

    Still looking for a cure for autism?
  • DoctorGDoctorG Posts: 766
    Some current betfair prices for next PM:

    Nandy 85
    Phillipson 60
    Powell 50
    Lammy 50

    Surely better odds that Polanski (26)
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 72,388
    Ok...deep breath...

    +++betting post +++

    ... taking on the persona of @Leon and SAYING For What Is Is Worth, clearing throat deeply, and saying: I HAD DRINKS TONIGHT with someone who is absolutely steeped and totally in the Labour party and worked at top level for the biggest labour unions and their view is now:

    Burnham.

  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 60,418

    Ok...deep breath...

    +++betting post +++

    ... taking on the persona of @Leon and SAYING For What Is Is Worth, clearing throat deeply, and saying: I HAD DRINKS TONIGHT with someone who is absolutely steeped and totally in the Labour party and worked at top level for the biggest labour unions and their view is now:

    Burnham.

    Did they explain "How?"
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 103,814

    Ok...deep breath...

    +++betting post +++

    ... taking on the persona of @Leon and SAYING For What Is Is Worth, clearing throat deeply, and saying: I HAD DRINKS TONIGHT with someone who is absolutely steeped and totally in the Labour party and worked at top level for the biggest labour unions and their view is now:

    Burnham.

    Did they explain "How?"
    Has to be another MP looking to take early retirement, and dare the NEC to stand in his way again.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 25,472

    Ok...deep breath...

    +++betting post +++

    ... taking on the persona of @Leon and SAYING For What Is Is Worth, clearing throat deeply, and saying: I HAD DRINKS TONIGHT with someone who is absolutely steeped and totally in the Labour party and worked at top level for the biggest labour unions and their view is now:

    Burnham.

    You must have started on the drink early if that's what they came out with.
  • It’s Burnham eventually but probably not for a good few years yet.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 23,257

    GIN1138 said:

    It’s most likely that Starmer is incompetent and dishonest; but he must be at least one of those

    Both.

    Can give Boris a run for his money on the lying front.
    Big John was right all the way along! :open_mouth:
    On Mandleson being a mate of Epstein and Starmer being a useless liar I would claim. The former nearly got me a ban.
    Bring back Jezza!
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 103,814
    GIN1138 said:

    GIN1138 said:

    It’s most likely that Starmer is incompetent and dishonest; but he must be at least one of those

    Both.

    Can give Boris a run for his money on the lying front.
    Big John was right all the way along! :open_mouth:
    On Mandleson being a mate of Epstein and Starmer being a useless liar I would claim. The former nearly got me a ban.
    Bring back Jezza!
    He's too busy making Your Party a succes....
  • Still, glad to see the media have decided they care about following the rules in public office as long as it’s not Johnson.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 23,257

    Ok...deep breath...

    +++betting post +++

    ... taking on the persona of @Leon and SAYING For What Is Is Worth, clearing throat deeply, and saying: I HAD DRINKS TONIGHT with someone who is absolutely steeped and totally in the Labour party and worked at top level for the biggest labour unions and their view is now:

    Burnham.

    Our very own Deep Throat has spoken... 👀
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 72,191

    Still, glad to see the media have decided they care about following the rules in public office as long as it’s not Johnson.

    This is exactly what took down Johnson
  • Wifey is up in London, seeing a screening of the first assembly of the movie "The Housekeeper" she has produced. Oscar-nominated and BAFTA-winning editor Tariq Anwar in charge.

    She's just come out and texted me:

    "It is absolutely fucking magnificent."

    Good luck! Must be exciting and unnerving in equal measure
  • Ok...deep breath...

    +++betting post +++

    ... taking on the persona of @Leon and SAYING For What Is Is Worth, clearing throat deeply, and saying: I HAD DRINKS TONIGHT with someone who is absolutely steeped and totally in the Labour party and worked at top level for the biggest labour unions and their view is now:

    Burnham.

    Did they explain "How?"
    Where there's a will, there's a way.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 23,257

    Still, glad to see the media have decided they care about following the rules in public office as long as it’s not Johnson.

    Boris was ousted though? Starmer is still on office?
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 7,937
    I can’t wait to hear from Brixy why this proves Starmer’s uniquely exceptional qualities for the role
  • Disappointed none of you are fans of The Big Bang Theory.

    Because it’s mediocre and shit and aimed at midwit nerds? My hot Camden policewoman girlfriend loved it and her IQ was about 107
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 72,388

    Ok...deep breath...

    +++betting post +++

    ... taking on the persona of @Leon and SAYING For What Is Is Worth, clearing throat deeply, and saying: I HAD DRINKS TONIGHT with someone who is absolutely steeped and totally in the Labour party and worked at top level for the biggest labour unions and their view is now:

    Burnham.

    You must have started on the drink early if that's what they came out with.
    As I say betting post.

    I have upped my Burnham pot. This person is utterly and to their finger tips involved in day-to-day Labour and its ups and downs and candidates and election planning.

    DYOR
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 103,814
    Leon said:

    Disappointed none of you are fans of The Big Bang Theory.

    Because it’s mediocre and shit and aimed at midwit nerds? My hot Camden policewoman girlfriend loved it and her IQ was about 107
    I thought real nerds didn't like TBBT because they could tell it was non nerds writing fake nerds?
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 7,937

    Still, glad to see the media have decided they care about following the rules in public office as long as it’s not Johnson.

    Boris following the rules would be news

    Sir Forensic Integrity following them wouldn’t
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 3,146

    Still, glad to see the media have decided they care about following the rules in public office as long as it’s not Johnson.

    This is exactly what took down Johnson
    Johnson was taken down by his cabinet not the media
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 56,870
    DoctorG said:

    Some current betfair prices for next PM:

    Nandy 85
    Phillipson 60
    Powell 50
    Lammy 50

    Surely better odds that Polanski (26)

    Powell is Deputy Leader, and that must count for something.

  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 40,186
    The front pages are not looking good for Starmer, from the Guardian to the Times.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 23,257
    At least we know why Starmer has been in such a state of general fury for weeks, lol...
  • isamisam Posts: 44,230
    Tell Morgan McSweeney, Sue Gray and the other cabinets bods

    “I never turn on my staff”

    “When they make mistakes, I carry the can”

    Really? 🤔


    https://x.com/kevinhollinrake/status/2044834901678010515?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 103,814
    Dopermean said:

    Still, glad to see the media have decided they care about following the rules in public office as long as it’s not Johnson.

    This is exactly what took down Johnson
    Johnson was taken down by his cabinet not the media
    If no one reported on all his problems none of them would ever have cared.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 23,257
    Dopermean said:

    Still, glad to see the media have decided they care about following the rules in public office as long as it’s not Johnson.

    This is exactly what took down Johnson
    Johnson was taken down by his cabinet not the media
    The media storm caused the Conservatove party and ultimately his cabinet to take him down?
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 24,239

    Ok...deep breath...

    +++betting post +++

    ... taking on the persona of @Leon and SAYING For What Is Is Worth, clearing throat deeply, and saying: I HAD DRINKS TONIGHT with someone who is absolutely steeped and totally in the Labour party and worked at top level for the biggest labour unions and their view is now:

    Burnham.

    That unfortunately does not say much for the person you had drinks with. Burnham is not an MP. Burnham has no route to becoming an MP.

    If your drinking partner is correct then it implies that Starmer remains in post indefinitely, as people wait impotently for Burnham to become an MP.
  • glwglw Posts: 10,923

    https://x.com/afneil/status/2044892924362584435

    And let us not forget that at one stage Starmer was implicitly blaming the vetting process for letting Mandelson through — ‘both due diligence and security vetting need to be looked at again,’ he said.
    Turns out the vetting process did its job. And was overruled.

    Oops. I expect Starmer will regret saying that.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 72,191
    Dopermean said:

    Still, glad to see the media have decided they care about following the rules in public office as long as it’s not Johnson.

    This is exactly what took down Johnson
    Johnson was taken down by his cabinet not the media
    Only because the media and Starmer demanded he go

    The real danger for Starmer is his cabinet does the same
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 72,388
    GIN1138 said:

    Ok...deep breath...

    +++betting post +++

    ... taking on the persona of @Leon and SAYING For What Is Is Worth, clearing throat deeply, and saying: I HAD DRINKS TONIGHT with someone who is absolutely steeped and totally in the Labour party and worked at top level for the biggest labour unions and their view is now:

    Burnham.

    Our very own Deep Throat has spoken... 👀
    As I say bet accordingly.

    This is DYOR time.

  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,593
    GIN1138 said:

    Dopermean said:

    Still, glad to see the media have decided they care about following the rules in public office as long as it’s not Johnson.

    This is exactly what took down Johnson
    Johnson was taken down by his cabinet not the media
    The media storm caused the Conservatove party and ultimately his cabinet to take him down?
    Nah, the cabinet hated they had lied to the public because Boris Johnson lied to them about putting a known sexual predator in a position of authority.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 60,418
    Leon said:

    Wifey is up in London, seeing a screening of the first assembly of the movie "The Housekeeper" she has produced. Oscar-nominated and BAFTA-winning editor Tariq Anwar in charge.

    She's just come out and texted me:

    "It is absolutely fucking magnificent."

    Good luck! Must be exciting and unnerving in equal measure
    She is off to Cannes to sell it. Hoping the big screeners might end up in a bidding war...

    The unnerving bit was getting the finance together. And especially finding the money to pay for Sir Anthony Hopkin's not-insignificant fee.

    Probably the sort of movie the BAFTA voters are going to love. Here's hoping!
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,593

    GIN1138 said:

    Ok...deep breath...

    +++betting post +++

    ... taking on the persona of @Leon and SAYING For What Is Is Worth, clearing throat deeply, and saying: I HAD DRINKS TONIGHT with someone who is absolutely steeped and totally in the Labour party and worked at top level for the biggest labour unions and their view is now:

    Burnham.

    Our very own Deep Throat has spoken... 👀
    As I say bet accordingly.

    This is DYOR time.

    It's been a while since we've had a Prime Minister from the Lords.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 32,601
    Andy Burnham will be 58 by the time his Mayoralty ends.
    That's pretty old by UK standards to be running for PM.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 72,191
    edited April 16
    GIN1138 said:

    At least we know why Starmer has been in such a state of general fury for weeks, lol...

    It does explain his furious exchange with the Speaker as he left PMQs yesterday

    He had known on Tuesday
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 72,388

    Ok...deep breath...

    +++betting post +++

    ... taking on the persona of @Leon and SAYING For What Is Is Worth, clearing throat deeply, and saying: I HAD DRINKS TONIGHT with someone who is absolutely steeped and totally in the Labour party and worked at top level for the biggest labour unions and their view is now:

    Burnham.

    You must have started on the drink early if that's what they came out with.
    We did indeed start on drink earlier.

    Doesn't mean this is all madness.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 59,886
    Olly Robbins resigns.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 60,418
    edited April 16
    Ollie Robbins has left the Foreign Office. Newsnight breaking news.

    Had lost the confidence of the PM and the Foreign Secretary.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 136,923
    New More in Common shock Holyrood poll has the SNP collapsing to just 32% of the vote on the constituency vote, 27% on the list and just 48 seats. There would be a Unionist majority for the first time since 2007 with Labour second on 21 seats, Reform third on 20, the Tories on 16 and LDs on 13, giving 70 Unionist MSPs

    https://x.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/2044793769204105560?s=20
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 103,814
    dixiedean said:

    Andy Burnham will be 58 by the time his Mayoralty ends.
    That's pretty old by UK standards to be running for PM.

    Perhaps times are changing - Keir was our oldest PM (at start) in 50 years.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,593
    Anyhoo, because of this thread I've received a very abusive message.

    A long term lurker says they are going to have nightmares thanks to me, they just know they are going to have dreams in 4K about Sir Keir Starmer having an 'accident' with a vacuum cleaner.
  • GarethoftheVale2GarethoftheVale2 Posts: 2,536
    HYUFD said:

    New More in Common shock Holyrood poll has the SNP collapsing to just 32% of the vote on the constituency vote, 27% on the list and just 48 seats. There would be a Unionist majority for the first time since 2007 with Labour second on 21 seats, Reform third on 20, the Tories on 16 and LDs on 13, giving 70 Unionist MSPs

    https://x.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/2044793769204105560?s=20

    interesting as that contradicts some of the recent MRPs
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 136,923

    Ollie Robbins has left the Foreign Office. Newsnight breaking news.

    SKS ensures another fall guy
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 103,814
    HYUFD said:

    New More in Common shock Holyrood poll has the SNP collapsing to just 32% of the vote on the constituency vote, 27% on the list and just 48 seats. There would be a Unionist majority for the first time since 2007 with Labour second on 21 seats, Reform third on 20, the Tories on 16 and LDs on 13, giving 70 Unionist MSPs

    https://x.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/2044793769204105560?s=20

    Bit out of keeping with every other bit of polling to date?

    Not that that would mean it was wrong automatically, but I'm wary of good news.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,593
    🚨Olly Robbins is leaving his post, I understand, after losing the confidence of PM and Foreign Secretary

    https://x.com/PronouncedAlva/status/2044897623685869692
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 60,418
    HYUFD said:

    Ollie Robbins has left the Foreign Office. Newsnight breaking news.

    SKS ensures another fall guy
    That Starmer bus must be a bumpy ride as it drives over all the careers thrown under it...
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 23,257

    Leon said:

    Wifey is up in London, seeing a screening of the first assembly of the movie "The Housekeeper" she has produced. Oscar-nominated and BAFTA-winning editor Tariq Anwar in charge.

    She's just come out and texted me:

    "It is absolutely fucking magnificent."

    Good luck! Must be exciting and unnerving in equal measure
    She is off to Cannes to sell it. Hoping the big screeners might end up in a bidding war...

    The unnerving bit was getting the finance together. And especially finding the money to pay for Sir Anthony Hopkin's not-insignificant fee.

    Probably the sort of movie the BAFTA voters are going to love. Here's hoping!
    Hope it all goes OK for her (and your good self)
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 3,146

    I'm having to watch Newsnight, it's that big...

    Thoughts and prayers
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 23,204
    GIN1138 said:

    Still, glad to see the media have decided they care about following the rules in public office as long as it’s not Johnson.

    Boris was ousted though? Starmer is still on office?
    kle4 said:

    Leon said:

    Disappointed none of you are fans of The Big Bang Theory.

    Because it’s mediocre and shit and aimed at midwit nerds? My hot Camden policewoman girlfriend loved it and her IQ was about 107
    I thought real nerds didn't like TBBT because they could tell it was non nerds writing fake nerds?
    I liked it because the nerds ended up with the hot women. The depiction of uni life was rather odd though.
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 9,134

    🚨Olly Robbins is leaving his post, I understand, after losing the confidence of PM and Foreign Secretary

    https://x.com/PronouncedAlva/status/2044897623685869692

    Something something, friends for his life….
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 60,418
    Dopermean said:

    I'm having to watch Newsnight, it's that big...

    Thoughts and prayers
    Somebody had to go there...
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,593

    🚨Olly Robbins is leaving his post, I understand, after losing the confidence of PM and Foreign Secretary

    https://x.com/PronouncedAlva/status/2044897623685869692

    Something something, friends for his life….
    "Greater love hath no man than this, that he lay down his friends for his life"
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 60,418
    GIN1138 said:

    Leon said:

    Wifey is up in London, seeing a screening of the first assembly of the movie "The Housekeeper" she has produced. Oscar-nominated and BAFTA-winning editor Tariq Anwar in charge.

    She's just come out and texted me:

    "It is absolutely fucking magnificent."

    Good luck! Must be exciting and unnerving in equal measure
    She is off to Cannes to sell it. Hoping the big screeners might end up in a bidding war...

    The unnerving bit was getting the finance together. And especially finding the money to pay for Sir Anthony Hopkin's not-insignificant fee.

    Probably the sort of movie the BAFTA voters are going to love. Here's hoping!
    Hope it all goes OK for her (and your good self)
    Thanks - I just have to hold the fort at home whilst she has the horrors of the Cannes Croisette, the yachts, the glamorous parties...
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 23,257

    GIN1138 said:

    Leon said:

    Wifey is up in London, seeing a screening of the first assembly of the movie "The Housekeeper" she has produced. Oscar-nominated and BAFTA-winning editor Tariq Anwar in charge.

    She's just come out and texted me:

    "It is absolutely fucking magnificent."

    Good luck! Must be exciting and unnerving in equal measure
    She is off to Cannes to sell it. Hoping the big screeners might end up in a bidding war...

    The unnerving bit was getting the finance together. And especially finding the money to pay for Sir Anthony Hopkin's not-insignificant fee.

    Probably the sort of movie the BAFTA voters are going to love. Here's hoping!
    Hope it all goes OK for her (and your good self)
    Thanks - I just have to hold the fort at home whilst she has the horrors of the Cannes Croisette, the yachts, the glamorous parties...
    It's a hard life but somebody has to go to all those parties...
  • DoctorGDoctorG Posts: 766

    HYUFD said:

    New More in Common shock Holyrood poll has the SNP collapsing to just 32% of the vote on the constituency vote, 27% on the list and just 48 seats. There would be a Unionist majority for the first time since 2007 with Labour second on 21 seats, Reform third on 20, the Tories on 16 and LDs on 13, giving 70 Unionist MSPs

    https://x.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/2044793769204105560?s=20

    interesting as that contradicts some of the recent MRPs
    Yep, the thing we dont know is what happens to the Green constituency vote in polls where they are getting 6/7% (they are only standing in 6 constituencies)

    Turnout will be lower that's for certain.

    Interestingly Ladbrokes have an SNP constituency vote %, the bands are over 39.5% (4/5) and under 39.5% (evens) ... for me the buy is on the under band
  • isamisam Posts: 44,230

    Olly Robbins resigns.

    ”I never turn on my staff”

    “When they make mistakes, I carry the can”
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 60,418

    Ok...deep breath...

    +++betting post +++

    ... taking on the persona of @Leon and SAYING For What Is Is Worth, clearing throat deeply, and saying: I HAD DRINKS TONIGHT with someone who is absolutely steeped and totally in the Labour party and worked at top level for the biggest labour unions and their view is now:

    Burnham.

    You must have started on the drink early if that's what they came out with.
    We did indeed start on drink earlier.

    Doesn't mean this is all madness.
    Depends if you were on the absinthe...
  • FishingFishing Posts: 6,356
    isam said:

    Olly Robbins resigns.

    ”I never turn on my staff”

    “When they make mistakes, I carry the can”
    In terms of firing subordinates for his mistakes, there really is nothing between Starmer and Trump.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 136,923
    edited April 16
    kle4 said:

    HYUFD said:

    New More in Common shock Holyrood poll has the SNP collapsing to just 32% of the vote on the constituency vote, 27% on the list and just 48 seats. There would be a Unionist majority for the first time since 2007 with Labour second on 21 seats, Reform third on 20, the Tories on 16 and LDs on 13, giving 70 Unionist MSPs

    https://x.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/2044793769204105560?s=20

    Bit out of keeping with every other bit of polling to date?

    Not that that would mean it was wrong automatically, but I'm wary of good news.
    We said the same in the 2017 general election campaign about the Survation poll giving a hung parliament when most polls still predicted a clear May majority but Survation was right
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 136,923
    DoctorG said:

    HYUFD said:

    New More in Common shock Holyrood poll has the SNP collapsing to just 32% of the vote on the constituency vote, 27% on the list and just 48 seats. There would be a Unionist majority for the first time since 2007 with Labour second on 21 seats, Reform third on 20, the Tories on 16 and LDs on 13, giving 70 Unionist MSPs

    https://x.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/2044793769204105560?s=20

    interesting as that contradicts some of the recent MRPs
    Yep, the thing we dont know is what happens to the Green constituency vote in polls where they are getting 6/7% (they are only standing in 6 constituencies)

    Turnout will be lower that's for certain.

    Interestingly Ladbrokes have an SNP constituency vote %, the bands are over 39.5% (4/5) and under 39.5% (evens) ... for me the buy is on the under band
    MiC has only included Green candidates confirmed as standing
  • Wulfrun_PhilWulfrun_Phil Posts: 5,220
    Foxy said:

    DoctorG said:

    Some current betfair prices for next PM:

    Nandy 85
    Phillipson 60
    Powell 50
    Lammy 50

    Surely better odds that Polanski (26)

    Powell is Deputy Leader, and that must count for something.

    It's an interesting question as to who would step up to be interim PM in the event that Starmer resigns in the near future over the Mandelson vetting scandal. That's because Lammy the Deputy PM was the Foreign Secretary at the time, that is Ollie Robbins boss, and it's stretching credibility too far to think that he wasn't in the know if Starmer was.

    We would then be in uncharted waters. There must be a path for Powell the Deputy Leader of the governing party to be next in line to assume the office of PM, on an interim basis pending an election. And there would be nothing to stop her putting her hat in the ring to carry on as PM, and with a bit of added credibility thanks to doing the job on an interim basis already, to end up being elected.

    I'm sceptical as to whether any of that could really happen. But odds of 50/1 on Powell are enough to cover the chance that it just might. And they are certainly much better value odds than the 50/1 on Lammy!
  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 10,061
    HYUFD said:

    DoctorG said:

    HYUFD said:

    New More in Common shock Holyrood poll has the SNP collapsing to just 32% of the vote on the constituency vote, 27% on the list and just 48 seats. There would be a Unionist majority for the first time since 2007 with Labour second on 21 seats, Reform third on 20, the Tories on 16 and LDs on 13, giving 70 Unionist MSPs

    https://x.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/2044793769204105560?s=20

    interesting as that contradicts some of the recent MRPs
    Yep, the thing we dont know is what happens to the Green constituency vote in polls where they are getting 6/7% (they are only standing in 6 constituencies)

    Turnout will be lower that's for certain.

    Interestingly Ladbrokes have an SNP constituency vote %, the bands are over 39.5% (4/5) and under 39.5% (evens) ... for me the buy is on the under band
    MiC has only included Green candidates confirmed as standing
    In Barnes the three Green Party candidates forgot to include the party name on their nomination papers so they are standing as Independents (though the party logo will appear).
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 23,257
    edited April 16
    @MarqueeMark Will your wife be meeting up with @Roger at his mansion while she's on the Cote D'Azur?
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 9,246

    Disappointed none of you are fans of The Big Bang Theory.

    It's team-written crap with a laugh track.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 23,257

    First of tonights two Reform by election defences is in.
    Con Gain Cramlington SW on Northumberland UA from Reform

    Gotta start somewhere, right? :D
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 24,239

    Foxy said:

    DoctorG said:

    Some current betfair prices for next PM:

    Nandy 85
    Phillipson 60
    Powell 50
    Lammy 50

    Surely better odds that Polanski (26)

    Powell is Deputy Leader, and that must count for something.

    It's an interesting question as to who would step up to be interim PM in the event that Starmer resigns in the near future over the Mandelson vetting scandal. That's because Lammy the Deputy PM was the Foreign Secretary at the time, that is Ollie Robbins boss, and it's stretching credibility too far to think that he wasn't in the know if Starmer was.

    We would then be in uncharted waters. There must be a path for Powell the Deputy Leader of the governing party to be next in line to assume the office of PM, on an interim basis pending an election. And there would be nothing to stop her putting her hat in the ring to carry on as PM, and with a bit of added credibility thanks to doing the job on an interim basis already, to end up being elected.

    I'm sceptical as to whether any of that could really happen. But odds of 50/1 on Powell are enough to cover the chance that it just might. And they are certainly much better value odds than the 50/1 on Lammy!
    This question often comes up and then the resigning PM always stays on after announcing their intention to resign while a permanent replacement is selected. If there's pressure for this to be done quickly it normally results in the process being curtailed by not having a contest.

    Why do people expect it to be different, every time, and for there to be an interim PM?
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