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  • glwglw Posts: 10,821

    https://x.com/visegrad24/status/2032502614709899599

    REPORTER:

    “Are the Ukrainians helping us with drone defense?”

    TRUMP:

    “We don’t need their help in drone defense. We know more about drones than anybody. We have the best drones in the world, actually”

    Americans are going to wake up in world where their military has been eclipsed by China's, and it will happen a lot sooner than most of them anticipate.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 61,523

    kinabalu said:

    Turns out Donald Trump does fancy nuking Iran and a year later there is little left of the world's economy or population.

    The internet survives though and on PB the debate goes on. There's anger about Trump destroying everything, it's the majority position, but there is pushback from certain posters.

    "Hiroshima. It's ok when a Dem president does it then?"

    "Well perhaps if the Dems had had a proper primary instead of choosing Kamala."

    "Woke simply had to be defeated. It's a shame it came to this but it's all on the Dems."

    "Imagine if Hillary had won in 2016. God help us."

    "Hunter Biden's laptop."

    NEW THREAD

    Go old school.

    "At least we missed the chaos of Ed Miliband"
    Farmy Farm
  • ozymandiasozymandias Posts: 1,831
    edited 7:48PM

    DavidL said:

    kinabalu said:

    Turns out Donald Trump does fancy nuking Iran and a year later there is little left of the world's economy or population.

    The internet survives though and on PB the debate goes on. There's anger about Trump destroying everything, it's the majority position, but there is still pushback from certain posters.

    "Hiroshima. It's ok when a Dem president does it then?"

    "Well perhaps if the Dems had had a proper primary instead of choosing Kamala."

    "Woke simply had to be defeated. It's a shame it came to this but it's all on the Dems."

    "Imagine if Hillary had won in 2016. God help us."

    "Hunter Biden's laptop."

    NEW THREAD

    You're missing the important stuff. Pineapple on pizza, is Die Hard a Christmas Movie, these debates will never end.
    What if Kamala had ordered deep pan pizza with pineapple wrapped in bacon, while watch Die Hard the Christmas Movie? Using Hunter Bidens laptop to place the order, obviously…
    Even they had ordered beef jerky?
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 57,870
    AnneJGP said:

    kinabalu said:

    "Iran Supreme Leader likely disfigured" ... Hegseth

    I've had enough of this, I think.

    As he is filmed walking down a street shaking hands with the public

    Only question - when?
    That was the President on the streets, not the person in charge.

    My mum likes Hesketh.

    The whole conflict has changed now, from what it was last weekend. UK didn’t have much of a stake in it last weekend, but now it’s about the straits of hormooz and keeping the oil flowing, US are committing ground troops up to five thousand of them. The UK is now going to have to put Warships in the gulf to play active role keeping the oil flowing, and grounds troops alongside the Americans in order to go after where the threats to tankers are coming from. Arn’t we?
    Naval assistance possibly but even that may not be possible

    The French have more naval ships in the area

    However, it only takes a couple of tankers to be sunk in the narrow navigable channel to close the straits indefinitely
    UK is now in this situation up to its eyebrows, whether it likes how things got here or not. The UK has to send a small armada to the gulf to keep the straits of Hormuz open in our national interest, as well as ground troops, boots on the ground alongside our coalition of allies, as the only way to go after and silence the threat to the tankers.

    When you look at the bigger picture here, where this is naturally progressing - there’s no ceasefire nor regime change, just ongoing conflict from this point, with action by allies to secure passage of oil.

    What are people seeing as the bigger picture and direction of travel and natural progression of the national interest if you are not seeing it like this?

    You were the first one posted it yesterday, BigG and it’s on the front of the papers today, what I described here is exactly what you told us is the thinking of the UK Minister for Defence. 🤷‍♀️
    I haven't changed my mind - the UK should stay out of it. If there are other countries keen enough to get & keep the Straits open then we'll benefit from that & be grateful to them. The UK isn't capable of being the world's policeman any longer and Mr Trump is not a UK ally. Neither is he a messiah figure to follow into any old mess just because.
    He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 27,971
    DavidL said:

    viewcode said:

    dixiedean said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @paleofuture.bsky.social‬

    Hegseth: "We will keep pushing, keep advancing. No quarter, no mercy for our enemies."

    No quarter is the refusal to take prisoners and instead just execute everyone. It's been considered a war crime for over a century.

    Difficult to take prisoners when you don't have the balls to commit anyone on the ground to actually do it.
    So in that sense he's correct.
    A unit of marines is on its way to the Middle East apparently.
    The problem is...US marines repositioned themselves a few years ago to be a force that takes ground via marine landings, not a force that holds ground via protracted land warfare. This is why they got rid of their Abrams tanks (we should have bought them, btw). What do the Marines legitimately hope to achieve in the area that the Army is not better suited for?
    Its what I said yesterday. They need to seize the land opposite the straits and that strikes me as a job for marines. Not an easy job either.
    Good point, thank you
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 27,971

    kinabalu said:

    Turns out Donald Trump does fancy nuking Iran and a year later there is little left of the world's economy or population.

    The internet survives though and on PB the debate goes on. There's anger about Trump destroying everything, it's the majority position, but there is pushback from certain posters.

    "Hiroshima. It's ok when a Dem president does it then?"

    "Well perhaps if the Dems had had a proper primary instead of choosing Kamala."

    "Woke simply had to be defeated. It's a shame it came to this but it's all on the Dems."

    "Imagine if Hillary had won in 2016. God help us."

    "Hunter Biden's laptop."

    NEW THREAD

    Go old school.

    "At least we missed the chaos of Ed Miliband"
    EICIPM
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 49,421
    DavidL said:

    kinabalu said:

    Turns out Donald Trump does fancy nuking Iran and a year later there is little left of the world's economy or population.

    The internet survives though and on PB the debate goes on. There's anger about Trump destroying everything, it's the majority position, but there is still pushback from certain posters.

    "Hiroshima. It's ok when a Dem president does it then?"

    "Well perhaps if the Dems had had a proper primary instead of choosing Kamala."

    "Woke simply had to be defeated. It's a shame it came to this but it's all on the Dems."

    "Imagine if Hillary had won in 2016. God help us."

    "Hunter Biden's laptop."

    NEW THREAD

    You're missing the important stuff. Pineapple on pizza, is Die Hard a Christmas Movie, these debates will never end.
    Well let's not hope not. Comforting.
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 28,067
    viewcode said:

    kinabalu said:

    Turns out Donald Trump does fancy nuking Iran and a year later there is little left of the world's economy or population.

    The internet survives though and on PB the debate goes on. There's anger about Trump destroying everything, it's the majority position, but there is pushback from certain posters.

    "Hiroshima. It's ok when a Dem president does it then?"

    "Well perhaps if the Dems had had a proper primary instead of choosing Kamala."

    "Woke simply had to be defeated. It's a shame it came to this but it's all on the Dems."

    "Imagine if Hillary had won in 2016. God help us."

    "Hunter Biden's laptop."

    NEW THREAD

    Go old school.

    "At least we missed the chaos of Ed Miliband"
    EICIPM
    Scottish subsamples say that the SNP are best placed to manage the nuclear wasteland.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 78,046
    DavidL said:

    AnneJGP said:

    kinabalu said:

    "Iran Supreme Leader likely disfigured" ... Hegseth

    I've had enough of this, I think.

    As he is filmed walking down a street shaking hands with the public

    Only question - when?
    That was the President on the streets, not the person in charge.

    My mum likes Hesketh.

    The whole conflict has changed now, from what it was last weekend. UK didn’t have much of a stake in it last weekend, but now it’s about the straits of hormooz and keeping the oil flowing, US are committing ground troops up to five thousand of them. The UK is now going to have to put Warships in the gulf to play active role keeping the oil flowing, and grounds troops alongside the Americans in order to go after where the threats to tankers are coming from. Arn’t we?
    Naval assistance possibly but even that may not be possible

    The French have more naval ships in the area

    However, it only takes a couple of tankers to be sunk in the narrow navigable channel to close the straits indefinitely
    UK is now in this situation up to its eyebrows, whether it likes how things got here or not. The UK has to send a small armada to the gulf to keep the straits of Hormuz open in our national interest, as well as ground troops, boots on the ground alongside our coalition of allies, as the only way to go after and silence the threat to the tankers.

    When you look at the bigger picture here, where this is naturally progressing - there’s no ceasefire nor regime change, just ongoing conflict from this point, with action by allies to secure passage of oil.

    What are people seeing as the bigger picture and direction of travel and natural progression of the national interest if you are not seeing it like this?

    You were the first one posted it yesterday, BigG and it’s on the front of the papers today, what I described here is exactly what you told us is the thinking of the UK Minister for Defence. 🤷‍♀️
    I haven't changed my mind - the UK should stay out of it. If there are other countries keen enough to get & keep the Straits open then we'll benefit from that & be grateful to them. The UK isn't capable of being the world's policeman any longer and Mr Trump is not a UK ally. Neither is he a messiah figure to follow into any old mess just because.
    He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy.
    There’s no Messiah here. There’s a mess all right, but no Messiah.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 31,666
    Those mutated kids born with no genitalia at all...
    Which toilet should they use?
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 70,644
    AnneJGP said:

    A visit to the dentist today and two observations:

    1) I spent longer filling in the multiple forms beforehand than I did in the dentist's chair.

    2) I paid for it, just as I have to pay for my eye test, my flu jab and any prescriptions I get - is the 'free' NHS only for oldies and those on benefits ?

    1) My dentist encourages patients to fill in the paperwork online before the appointment.

    2) I pay for dentist, but I am extremely fortunate to have a dentist that has some NHS patients so the fees are very much less than private.
    On the dentist my wife and I pay nearly £1,000 pa as there are no NHS dentists taking more patients

    We have been in Denplan for over 20 years
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 31,666

    AnneJGP said:

    A visit to the dentist today and two observations:

    1) I spent longer filling in the multiple forms beforehand than I did in the dentist's chair.

    2) I paid for it, just as I have to pay for my eye test, my flu jab and any prescriptions I get - is the 'free' NHS only for oldies and those on benefits ?

    1) My dentist encourages patients to fill in the paperwork online before the appointment.

    2) I pay for dentist, but I am extremely fortunate to have a dentist that has some NHS patients so the fees are very much less than private.
    On the dentist my wife and I pay nearly £1,000 pa as there are no NHS dentists taking more patients

    We have been in Denplan for over 20 years
    I travel down to Lancashire every three months for mine.
    Been on a waiting list for one up here for years.
  • TazTaz Posts: 25,922
    ydoethur said:

    DavidL said:

    AnneJGP said:

    kinabalu said:

    "Iran Supreme Leader likely disfigured" ... Hegseth

    I've had enough of this, I think.

    As he is filmed walking down a street shaking hands with the public

    Only question - when?
    That was the President on the streets, not the person in charge.

    My mum likes Hesketh.

    The whole conflict has changed now, from what it was last weekend. UK didn’t have much of a stake in it last weekend, but now it’s about the straits of hormooz and keeping the oil flowing, US are committing ground troops up to five thousand of them. The UK is now going to have to put Warships in the gulf to play active role keeping the oil flowing, and grounds troops alongside the Americans in order to go after where the threats to tankers are coming from. Arn’t we?
    Naval assistance possibly but even that may not be possible

    The French have more naval ships in the area

    However, it only takes a couple of tankers to be sunk in the narrow navigable channel to close the straits indefinitely
    UK is now in this situation up to its eyebrows, whether it likes how things got here or not. The UK has to send a small armada to the gulf to keep the straits of Hormuz open in our national interest, as well as ground troops, boots on the ground alongside our coalition of allies, as the only way to go after and silence the threat to the tankers.

    When you look at the bigger picture here, where this is naturally progressing - there’s no ceasefire nor regime change, just ongoing conflict from this point, with action by allies to secure passage of oil.

    What are people seeing as the bigger picture and direction of travel and natural progression of the national interest if you are not seeing it like this?

    You were the first one posted it yesterday, BigG and it’s on the front of the papers today, what I described here is exactly what you told us is the thinking of the UK Minister for Defence. 🤷‍♀️
    I haven't changed my mind - the UK should stay out of it. If there are other countries keen enough to get & keep the Straits open then we'll benefit from that & be grateful to them. The UK isn't capable of being the world's policeman any longer and Mr Trump is not a UK ally. Neither is he a messiah figure to follow into any old mess just because.
    He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy.
    There’s no Messiah here. There’s a mess all right, but no Messiah.
    If there are no messiahs are there any naughty boys ?
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 58,209
    https://x.com/skynews/status/2032547167785689386

    The independent adviser on ministerial standards has rejected calls from the Conservatives for an investigation into Sir Keir Starmer over the appointment of Peter Mandelson as ambassador to the U.S.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 70,644
    dixiedean said:

    AnneJGP said:

    A visit to the dentist today and two observations:

    1) I spent longer filling in the multiple forms beforehand than I did in the dentist's chair.

    2) I paid for it, just as I have to pay for my eye test, my flu jab and any prescriptions I get - is the 'free' NHS only for oldies and those on benefits ?

    1) My dentist encourages patients to fill in the paperwork online before the appointment.

    2) I pay for dentist, but I am extremely fortunate to have a dentist that has some NHS patients so the fees are very much less than private.
    On the dentist my wife and I pay nearly £1,000 pa as there are no NHS dentists taking more patients

    We have been in Denplan for over 20 years
    I travel down to Lancashire every three months for mine.
    Been on a waiting list for one up here for years.
    Whilst our £1,000 is for the two of us, it is far more than most can afford or should have to
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 36,894
    viewcode said:

    DavidL said:

    viewcode said:

    dixiedean said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @paleofuture.bsky.social‬

    Hegseth: "We will keep pushing, keep advancing. No quarter, no mercy for our enemies."

    No quarter is the refusal to take prisoners and instead just execute everyone. It's been considered a war crime for over a century.

    Difficult to take prisoners when you don't have the balls to commit anyone on the ground to actually do it.
    So in that sense he's correct.
    A unit of marines is on its way to the Middle East apparently.
    The problem is...US marines repositioned themselves a few years ago to be a force that takes ground via marine landings, not a force that holds ground via protracted land warfare. This is why they got rid of their Abrams tanks (we should have bought them, btw). What do the Marines legitimately hope to achieve in the area that the Army is not better suited for?
    Its what I said yesterday. They need to seize the land opposite the straits and that strikes me as a job for marines. Not an easy job either.
    Good point, thank you
    There’s quite a lot of ‘land’ there, and a big hinterland. Seizing and, importantly, holding it isn’t going to be easy. The Iranian forces are better trained, I suspect, than the Vietnamese were. And the US lost that war.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 70,644

    https://x.com/skynews/status/2032547167785689386

    The independent adviser on ministerial standards has rejected calls from the Conservatives for an investigation into Sir Keir Starmer over the appointment of Peter Mandelson as ambassador to the U.S.

    Just adds to the impression of no accountability
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 47,062

    kinabalu said:

    "Iran Supreme Leader likely disfigured" ... Hegseth

    I've had enough of this, I think.

    As he is filmed walking down a street shaking hands with the public

    Only question - when?
    That was the President on the streets, not the person in charge.

    My mum likes Hesketh.

    The whole conflict has changed now, from what it was last weekend. UK didn’t have much of a stake in it last weekend, but now it’s about the straits of hormooz and keeping the oil flowing, US are committing ground troops up to five thousand of them. The UK is now going to have to put Warships in the gulf to play active role keeping the oil flowing, and grounds troops alongside the Americans in order to go after where the threats to tankers are coming from. Arn’t we?
    Did an interesting if ultimately shite motorbike, so fair enough.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hesketh_Motorcycles
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 38,038

    https://x.com/skynews/status/2032547167785689386

    The independent adviser on ministerial standards has rejected calls from the Conservatives for an investigation into Sir Keir Starmer over the appointment of Peter Mandelson as ambassador to the U.S.

    Just adds to the impression of no accountability
    At least Starmer has an Independent Adviser on Ministerial Standards. Brave Sir Boris went through two before deciding, nah.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 36,894
    edited 8:27PM

    AnneJGP said:

    A visit to the dentist today and two observations:

    1) I spent longer filling in the multiple forms beforehand than I did in the dentist's chair.

    2) I paid for it, just as I have to pay for my eye test, my flu jab and any prescriptions I get - is the 'free' NHS only for oldies and those on benefits ?

    1) My dentist encourages patients to fill in the paperwork online before the appointment.

    2) I pay for dentist, but I am extremely fortunate to have a dentist that has some NHS patients so the fees are very much less than private.
    On the dentist my wife and I pay nearly £1,000 pa as there are no NHS dentists taking more patients

    We have been in Denplan for over 20 years

    AnneJGP said:

    A visit to the dentist today and two observations:

    1) I spent longer filling in the multiple forms beforehand than I did in the dentist's chair.

    2) I paid for it, just as I have to pay for my eye test, my flu jab and any prescriptions I get - is the 'free' NHS only for oldies and those on benefits ?

    1) My dentist encourages patients to fill in the paperwork online before the appointment.

    2) I pay for dentist, but I am extremely fortunate to have a dentist that has some NHS patients so the fees are very much less than private.
    On the dentist my wife and I pay nearly £1,000 pa as there are no NHS dentists taking more patients

    We have been in Denplan for over 20 years
    My wife and I pay £55 each every six months for a check-up. Mrs C had some work done last year; cost £400.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 12,838
    Brixian59 said:

    Number 10 has claimed there was “no requirement” for Keir Starmer to formally interview Peter Mandelson before appointing him as ambassador to the US. The Times revealed last night that Starmer delegated the job entirely to Morgan McSweeney and Matthew Doyle.

    Amazing how nothing ever hits his desk.

    The obvious question is, how many of the last 10 US Ambassadors been interviewed by the sitting PM??

    If the answer is 10 he has serious questions to answer

    If the answer is more than 5, he should explain why not

    If its less than 5, their is nothing to see here.

    Choosing not to interview someone doesn’t absolve you of responsibility if you appoint them to the role
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 70,644

    AnneJGP said:

    A visit to the dentist today and two observations:

    1) I spent longer filling in the multiple forms beforehand than I did in the dentist's chair.

    2) I paid for it, just as I have to pay for my eye test, my flu jab and any prescriptions I get - is the 'free' NHS only for oldies and those on benefits ?

    1) My dentist encourages patients to fill in the paperwork online before the appointment.

    2) I pay for dentist, but I am extremely fortunate to have a dentist that has some NHS patients so the fees are very much less than private.
    On the dentist my wife and I pay nearly £1,000 pa as there are no NHS dentists taking more patients

    We have been in Denplan for over 20 years

    AnneJGP said:

    A visit to the dentist today and two observations:

    1) I spent longer filling in the multiple forms beforehand than I did in the dentist's chair.

    2) I paid for it, just as I have to pay for my eye test, my flu jab and any prescriptions I get - is the 'free' NHS only for oldies and those on benefits ?

    1) My dentist encourages patients to fill in the paperwork online before the appointment.

    2) I pay for dentist, but I am extremely fortunate to have a dentist that has some NHS patients so the fees are very much less than private.
    On the dentist my wife and I pay nearly £1,000 pa as there are no NHS dentists taking more patients

    We have been in Denplan for over 20 years
    My wife and I pay £55 each every six months for a check-up. Mrs C had some work done last year; cost £400.
    To be fair we have had excellent service including dental treatment in New Zealand when I lost a crown whilst visiting our son there
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 70,644

    Brixian59 said:

    Number 10 has claimed there was “no requirement” for Keir Starmer to formally interview Peter Mandelson before appointing him as ambassador to the US. The Times revealed last night that Starmer delegated the job entirely to Morgan McSweeney and Matthew Doyle.

    Amazing how nothing ever hits his desk.

    The obvious question is, how many of the last 10 US Ambassadors been interviewed by the sitting PM??

    If the answer is 10 he has serious questions to answer

    If the answer is more than 5, he should explain why not

    If its less than 5, their is nothing to see here.

    Choosing not to interview someone doesn’t absolve you of responsibility if you appoint them to the role
    Just imagine if Johnson had done this !!!!!
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 4,921
    I was sorry to read about the deaths of horses at Cheltenham. Not a thing I'd associated with horse racing.
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 4,921

    Brixian59 said:

    Number 10 has claimed there was “no requirement” for Keir Starmer to formally interview Peter Mandelson before appointing him as ambassador to the US. The Times revealed last night that Starmer delegated the job entirely to Morgan McSweeney and Matthew Doyle.

    Amazing how nothing ever hits his desk.

    The obvious question is, how many of the last 10 US Ambassadors been interviewed by the sitting PM??

    If the answer is 10 he has serious questions to answer

    If the answer is more than 5, he should explain why not

    If its less than 5, their is nothing to see here.

    Choosing not to interview someone doesn’t absolve you of responsibility if you appoint them to the role
    The most obvious answer to Why not? is that he knew the man so well he didn't need to interview him. But given what came out, did SKS know PM that well? But even if he had interviewed him, all that would probably not have surfaced.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 57,870

    viewcode said:

    DavidL said:

    viewcode said:

    dixiedean said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @paleofuture.bsky.social‬

    Hegseth: "We will keep pushing, keep advancing. No quarter, no mercy for our enemies."

    No quarter is the refusal to take prisoners and instead just execute everyone. It's been considered a war crime for over a century.

    Difficult to take prisoners when you don't have the balls to commit anyone on the ground to actually do it.
    So in that sense he's correct.
    A unit of marines is on its way to the Middle East apparently.
    The problem is...US marines repositioned themselves a few years ago to be a force that takes ground via marine landings, not a force that holds ground via protracted land warfare. This is why they got rid of their Abrams tanks (we should have bought them, btw). What do the Marines legitimately hope to achieve in the area that the Army is not better suited for?
    Its what I said yesterday. They need to seize the land opposite the straits and that strikes me as a job for marines. Not an easy job either.
    Good point, thank you
    There’s quite a lot of ‘land’ there, and a big hinterland. Seizing and, importantly, holding it isn’t going to be easy. The Iranian forces are better trained, I suspect, than the Vietnamese were. And the US lost that war.
    The Americans have overwhelming airpower and there is no jungle to hide in. Iranians would find it incredibly difficult to move any opposing forces of any size against a Marine expeditionary force. They would be wiped out before they got close. Drones etc might be more of an issue.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 42,832
    @jawillick

    First a THAAD system pulled from South Korea, now Marines pulled from Japan — both to Middle East.

    I have seen arguments that Trump is going to war in Iran to deter China. Concretely, the East Asia power balance is shifting in China's favor every day.

    https://x.com/jawillick/status/2032504029582917825?s=20
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 38,038
    edited 8:37PM
    Brixian59 said:

    Brixian59 said:

    Brixian59 said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Photo shows Andrew, Jeffrey Epstein and Peter Mandelson together for first time

    https://www.thetimes.com/article/andrew-jeffrey-epstein-peter-mandelson-picture-photograph-first-rxxs7sxp8

    it's like one of those photos where you see Picasso, Joyce and Beckett having a coffee in the same Paris cafe, or maybe David Bowie, Mick Jagger and Bob Dylan sharing a joint in Soho in 1969

    Except it's the anti-version of that. The negative fame
    The interesting question is: who is the hidden fourth person, behind Mandy?
    Is there a fourth person?! Looks like a barbecue, to me

    As for the photographer, I bet its Ghislaine Maxwell. Her job was to take lots and lots of kompromat, sorry, photographs
    Leon Brittain
    You should retract that now

    I did not flag it but it is simply outrageous
    Rod
    Line
    Sinker

    Who then

    Marc François
    Chris Pincher
    Are you trying to get banned for libelling random political opponents?

    If so, you are really, really dim.
    Oh no not another ban
    @Shecorns88 😱🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
    Adios
    Well blow me down with a feather. I always thought @Shecorns88 was a @Leon parody account.

    I think that @Brixian59 is a far more robust version of your previous incarnation. You are annoying all the right people as our right wing friends would say.
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 31,794
    A long dark tea-time of the political soul. Had a very productive day working with my business partners / friends on our new business. Next week is a BIG week in our ambitions.

    Spent lunchtime walking round the lake with my friend of 16 years who has clearly drifted right in his perspective. And it's entertaining how my own perspective continues to slide to the right once someone who knows how I think challenges me.

    Last time I thought about the Tories positively was in the early days of Boris, and look how badly that turned out...

    Oh God No! lol
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 5,895
    Omnium said:

    Someone mentioned selling old hard drives. If you do so, think about this

    Don't delete your data first. Encrypt the drive first. So when you format the drive, this destroys the encryption key. So even if someone managed to run a recovery utility on your drive, they would get encrypted data. Which would be very hard to distinguish from noise.

    So -

    1) Encrypt
    2) Wipe
    3) Run a secure wipe tool (for the extra paranoid).

    I think you could safely throw away a hard drive with the UK's nuclear codes (And even if it had the US over-rides too) without the slightest risk that anyone would read that data.

    Throwing a hard drive in a bin is nearly 100% data safe I'd suggest. (Obviously it does depend a little on the bin)
    The neodymium magnets within are sort-of useful. They don't fall off the fridge, at any rate.

    The disks themselves make a posher bird scarer than AOL CDs.

    Surely 10 year old 2Tb disks aren't worth anything?
  • Penddu2Penddu2 Posts: 881
    I needed some crowns & stuff done a few years ago - went to KL for two weeks and had it all done there. The overall cost including flights and hotels was way cheaper than a UK dentist.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 58,581
    AnneJGP said:

    I was sorry to read about the deaths of horses at Cheltenham. Not a thing I'd associated with horse racing.

    I won't bet on jump races. For three years in a row I bet on the Grand National and each year my horse fell and had to be destroyed. Literally the kiss of death.
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 4,921

    AnneJGP said:

    I was sorry to read about the deaths of horses at Cheltenham. Not a thing I'd associated with horse racing.

    I won't bet on jump races. For three years in a row I bet on the Grand National and each year my horse fell and had to be destroyed. Literally the kiss of death.
    That's horrible. Normally I Like replies but not that one.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 61,523

    Brixian59 said:

    Number 10 has claimed there was “no requirement” for Keir Starmer to formally interview Peter Mandelson before appointing him as ambassador to the US. The Times revealed last night that Starmer delegated the job entirely to Morgan McSweeney and Matthew Doyle.

    Amazing how nothing ever hits his desk.

    The obvious question is, how many of the last 10 US Ambassadors been interviewed by the sitting PM??

    If the answer is 10 he has serious questions to answer

    If the answer is more than 5, he should explain why not

    If its less than 5, their is nothing to see here.

    Choosing not to interview someone doesn’t absolve you of responsibility if you appoint them to the role
    Further, if you decide to appoint a specific person to a role, rather than going with whoever passes the last round of the interview process, you’ve made yourself responsible.
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 4,921
    Penddu2 said:

    I needed some crowns & stuff done a few years ago - went to KL for two weeks and had it all done there. The overall cost including flights and hotels was way cheaper than a UK dentist.

    I wonder whether the combination of poverty plus dental pain will qualify for Medically Assisted Dying?
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 58,581
    DavidL said:

    viewcode said:

    DavidL said:

    viewcode said:

    dixiedean said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @paleofuture.bsky.social‬

    Hegseth: "We will keep pushing, keep advancing. No quarter, no mercy for our enemies."

    No quarter is the refusal to take prisoners and instead just execute everyone. It's been considered a war crime for over a century.

    Difficult to take prisoners when you don't have the balls to commit anyone on the ground to actually do it.
    So in that sense he's correct.
    A unit of marines is on its way to the Middle East apparently.
    The problem is...US marines repositioned themselves a few years ago to be a force that takes ground via marine landings, not a force that holds ground via protracted land warfare. This is why they got rid of their Abrams tanks (we should have bought them, btw). What do the Marines legitimately hope to achieve in the area that the Army is not better suited for?
    Its what I said yesterday. They need to seize the land opposite the straits and that strikes me as a job for marines. Not an easy job either.
    Good point, thank you
    There’s quite a lot of ‘land’ there, and a big hinterland. Seizing and, importantly, holding it isn’t going to be easy. The Iranian forces are better trained, I suspect, than the Vietnamese were. And the US lost that war.
    The Americans have overwhelming airpower and there is no jungle to hide in. Iranians would find it incredibly difficult to move any opposing forces of any size against a Marine expeditionary force. They would be wiped out before they got close. Drones etc might be more of an issue.
    The Americans would have massive coverage from Reaper and other drones and behind that AWACS, with fighter support and then B52s ready to obliterate any ground force that tried to mass. Iranian missiles are getting scarcer by the day. Certinly the US would not operating with impunity - but the Road of Death would be waving hello.

    The Iranians would use mosques and schools and hopsitals to operate from, but Trump and Hegseth aren't going to worry about those niceties. They have already told us as much. They would just press on regardless. Press on where to is the question though. Whether the regime fails in the areas they pass through would an interesting question. There might not be many people left to "liberate".
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 61,523

    Omnium said:

    Someone mentioned selling old hard drives. If you do so, think about this

    Don't delete your data first. Encrypt the drive first. So when you format the drive, this destroys the encryption key. So even if someone managed to run a recovery utility on your drive, they would get encrypted data. Which would be very hard to distinguish from noise.

    So -

    1) Encrypt
    2) Wipe
    3) Run a secure wipe tool (for the extra paranoid).

    I think you could safely throw away a hard drive with the UK's nuclear codes (And even if it had the US over-rides too) without the slightest risk that anyone would read that data.

    Throwing a hard drive in a bin is nearly 100% data safe I'd suggest. (Obviously it does depend a little on the bin)
    The neodymium magnets within are sort-of useful. They don't fall off the fridge, at any rate.

    The disks themselves make a posher bird scarer than AOL CDs.

    Surely 10 year old 2Tb disks aren't worth anything?
    I’m seeing £30+ for 2TB drives
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 58,209
    https://x.com/spectatorindex/status/2032544081205932463

    There is a 'complex tug-of-war inside the White House' as Trump's aides debate 'when and how to declare victory' against Iran, according to Reuters report.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 22,257

    A long dark tea-time of the political soul. Had a very productive day working with my business partners / friends on our new business. Next week is a BIG week in our ambitions.

    Spent lunchtime walking round the lake with my friend of 16 years who has clearly drifted right in his perspective. And it's entertaining how my own perspective continues to slide to the right once someone who knows how I think challenges me.

    Last time I thought about the Tories positively was in the early days of Boris, and look how badly that turned out...

    Oh God No! lol

    Do you realise your account has been hacked?
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 38,038

    https://x.com/spectatorindex/status/2032544081205932463

    There is a 'complex tug-of-war inside the White House' as Trump's aides debate 'when and how to declare victory' against Iran, according to Reuters report.

    I think it would be wise for all of us to concede the win now. I am quite content to do so. The World would be far safer for Trump to take the win and any awards that brings. I doubt Bibi is done just yet though.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 58,581
    glw said:

    https://x.com/visegrad24/status/2032502614709899599

    REPORTER:

    “Are the Ukrainians helping us with drone defense?”

    TRUMP:

    “We don’t need their help in drone defense. We know more about drones than anybody. We have the best drones in the world, actually”

    Americans are going to wake up in world where their military has been eclipsed by China's, and it will happen a lot sooner than most of them anticipate.
    They are going to wake up in a world where their military has been eclipsed by Ukraine's. Bang for buck, their Military Industrial Complex is going to be priced out of the market.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 58,581

    https://x.com/spectatorindex/status/2032544081205932463

    There is a 'complex tug-of-war inside the White House' as Trump's aides debate 'when and how to declare victory' against Iran, according to Reuters report.

    If the Straits of Hormuz aren't open, then it is patently NOT a "victory" of any hue that even Trump and Hegseth can spin.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 58,413
    AnneJGP said:

    I was sorry to read about the deaths of horses at Cheltenham. Not a thing I'd associated with horse racing.

    Summarily executed for failure?
  • MelonBMelonB Posts: 16,877
    Scott_xP said:

    @jawillick

    First a THAAD system pulled from South Korea, now Marines pulled from Japan — both to Middle East.

    I have seen arguments that Trump is going to war in Iran to deter China. Concretely, the East Asia power balance is shifting in China's favor every day.

    https://x.com/jawillick/status/2032504029582917825?s=20

    I kind of wonder if things getting much more contested between the US and China might not be a bad thing. The whole geopolitical crucible would shift to the far East, and Europe might be left quiet and unharassed for a while.

    Might disrupt semiconductor production but if it’s that vs oil and LNG…
  • MelonBMelonB Posts: 16,877

    https://x.com/spectatorindex/status/2032544081205932463

    There is a 'complex tug-of-war inside the White House' as Trump's aides debate 'when and how to declare victory' against Iran, according to Reuters report.

    If the Straits of Hormuz aren't open, then it is patently NOT a "victory" of any hue that even Trump and Hegseth can spin.
    But they are open, subject to Iran not bombing boats. Hegseth told us so.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 42,832

    https://x.com/spectatorindex/status/2032544081205932463

    There is a 'complex tug-of-war inside the White House' as Trump's aides debate 'when and how to declare victory' against Iran, according to Reuters report.

    If the Straits of Hormuz aren't open, then it is patently NOT a "victory" of any hue that even Trump and Hegseth can spin.
    Hegseth said today they are open (as long as Iran doesn't sink any ships)
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 58,581

    Penddu2 said:

    I needed some crowns & stuff done a few years ago - went to KL for two weeks and had it all done there. The overall cost including flights and hotels was way cheaper than a UK dentist.

    King's Lynn?
    Rather more rustic dentistry there - extraction by a string connected to a slammed door!
  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 8,019
    edited 9:04PM
    MelonB said:

    https://x.com/spectatorindex/status/2032544081205932463

    There is a 'complex tug-of-war inside the White House' as Trump's aides debate 'when and how to declare victory' against Iran, according to Reuters report.

    If the Straits of Hormuz aren't open, then it is patently NOT a "victory" of any hue that even Trump and Hegseth can spin.
    But they are open, subject to Iran not bombing boats. Hegseth told us so.
    Well, that has always been the case I suppose. The Straits of Dover are open, subject to France not bombing boats.
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 5,895

    Omnium said:

    Someone mentioned selling old hard drives. If you do so, think about this

    Don't delete your data first. Encrypt the drive first. So when you format the drive, this destroys the encryption key. So even if someone managed to run a recovery utility on your drive, they would get encrypted data. Which would be very hard to distinguish from noise.

    So -

    1) Encrypt
    2) Wipe
    3) Run a secure wipe tool (for the extra paranoid).

    I think you could safely throw away a hard drive with the UK's nuclear codes (And even if it had the US over-rides too) without the slightest risk that anyone would read that data.

    Throwing a hard drive in a bin is nearly 100% data safe I'd suggest. (Obviously it does depend a little on the bin)
    The neodymium magnets within are sort-of useful. They don't fall off the fridge, at any rate.

    The disks themselves make a posher bird scarer than AOL CDs.

    Surely 10 year old 2Tb disks aren't worth anything?
    I’m seeing £30+ for 2TB drives
    That's nuts. This bubble has to end soon.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 24,701
    MelonB said:

    https://x.com/spectatorindex/status/2032544081205932463

    There is a 'complex tug-of-war inside the White House' as Trump's aides debate 'when and how to declare victory' against Iran, according to Reuters report.

    If the Straits of Hormuz aren't open, then it is patently NOT a "victory" of any hue that even Trump and Hegseth can spin.
    But they are open, subject to Iran not bombing boats. Hegseth told us so.
    I've just heard a clip of Hegseth saying that Iran is acting out of shear desperation.

    Or is it Shia desperation?
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 27,971

    A long dark tea-time of the political soul. Had a very productive day working with my business partners / friends on our new business. Next week is a BIG week in our ambitions.

    Spent lunchtime walking round the lake with my friend of 16 years who has clearly drifted right in his perspective. And it's entertaining how my own perspective continues to slide to the right once someone who knows how I think challenges me.

    Last time I thought about the Tories positively was in the early days of Boris, and look how badly that turned out...

    Oh God No! lol

    Hmm. I can only repeat my previous question: what Lib Dem policies do you now no longer believe, and what Conservative policies do you now believe which you did not believe before? Politics isn't ties.
  • glwglw Posts: 10,821
    Scott_xP said:

    @jawillick

    First a THAAD system pulled from South Korea, now Marines pulled from Japan — both to Middle East.

    I have seen arguments that Trump is going to war in Iran to deter China. Concretely, the East Asia power balance is shifting in China's favor every day.

    https://x.com/jawillick/status/2032504029582917825?s=20

    I would guess that China's top foreign policy priority is making sure they don't accidentally do anything that sees Donald Trump replaced or weakened. "Keep him in post at all costs."
  • No_Offence_AlanNo_Offence_Alan Posts: 5,382
    stodge said:

    In F1 NEWS

    Bahrain & Saudi Arabia Grands Prix to be cancelled according to BBC

    Yet there was horse racing in Dubai today and no one has mentioned postponing the World Cup meeting in a fortnight.
    Events watched by locals versus spectators flying in?
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 70,664

    https://x.com/spectatorindex/status/2032544081205932463

    There is a 'complex tug-of-war inside the White House' as Trump's aides debate 'when and how to declare victory' against Iran, according to Reuters report.

    If the Straits of Hormuz aren't open, then it is patently NOT a "victory" of any hue that even Trump and Hegseth can spin.
    As the military analysts say: the enemy also has a vote on this.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 58,581

    https://x.com/spectatorindex/status/2032544081205932463

    There is a 'complex tug-of-war inside the White House' as Trump's aides debate 'when and how to declare victory' against Iran, according to Reuters report.

    A circular tug of war.

    All pointless. There is no debate. They will do as Trump tells them.
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 31,794
    viewcode said:

    A long dark tea-time of the political soul. Had a very productive day working with my business partners / friends on our new business. Next week is a BIG week in our ambitions.

    Spent lunchtime walking round the lake with my friend of 16 years who has clearly drifted right in his perspective. And it's entertaining how my own perspective continues to slide to the right once someone who knows how I think challenges me.

    Last time I thought about the Tories positively was in the early days of Boris, and look how badly that turned out...

    Oh God No! lol

    Hmm. I can only repeat my previous question: what Lib Dem policies do you now no longer believe, and what Conservative policies do you now believe which you did not believe before? Politics isn't ties.
    I only see politics as that partisan when forced to do it. There’s good and bad in all parties. With the exception of of those racist fucks in Restore Britain.

    I was a liberal inside the Labour Party for a while. And now I find myself on the Orange Book end of the LibDems as opposed to the SDP end.

    It’s not about specific policies or even people. It’s about feel. And what has my feel been for a while? I really liked Rishi Sunak and told him that when I met him as Chancellor. even if he ended up utterly ineffective as PM. I keep saying “Liz Truss was right” to provoke the need to think the unthinkable. Even if she was bonkers. Etc
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 27,971

    viewcode said:

    A long dark tea-time of the political soul. Had a very productive day working with my business partners / friends on our new business. Next week is a BIG week in our ambitions.

    Spent lunchtime walking round the lake with my friend of 16 years who has clearly drifted right in his perspective. And it's entertaining how my own perspective continues to slide to the right once someone who knows how I think challenges me.

    Last time I thought about the Tories positively was in the early days of Boris, and look how badly that turned out...

    Oh God No! lol

    Hmm. I can only repeat my previous question: what Lib Dem policies do you now no longer believe, and what Conservative policies do you now believe which you did not believe before? Politics isn't ties.
    I only see politics as that partisan when forced to do it. There’s good and bad in all parties. With the exception of of those racist fucks in Restore Britain.

    I was a liberal inside the Labour Party for a while. And now I find myself on the Orange Book end of the LibDems as opposed to the SDP end.

    It’s not about specific policies or even people. It’s about feel. And what has my feel been for a while? I really liked Rishi Sunak and told him that when I met him as Chancellor. even if he ended up utterly ineffective as PM. I keep saying “Liz Truss was right” to provoke the need to think the unthinkable. Even if she was bonkers. Etc
    Ah, thank you. I don't share your conception of parties but I do understand your explanation.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 70,664
    Darren Johnson
    @DarrenJohnson66

    This has been a pattern in local by-elections for a while now. Greens are making gains in some areas but losing seats in others. I suspect pattern will continue into the local elections as the party's prime mission changes from an ecologically-based party to a left populist one.

    https://x.com/DarrenJohnson66/status/2032370773495586909
  • sarissasarissa Posts: 2,301
    Leon said:

    algarkirk said:

    Leon said:

    Photo shows Andrew, Jeffrey Epstein and Peter Mandelson together for first time

    https://www.thetimes.com/article/andrew-jeffrey-epstein-peter-mandelson-picture-photograph-first-rxxs7sxp8

    it's like one of those photos where you see Picasso, Joyce and Beckett having a coffee in the same Paris cafe, or maybe David Bowie, Mick Jagger and Bob Dylan sharing a joint in Soho in 1969

    Except it's the anti-version of that. The negative fame
    The Immortal Dinner - Wordsworth, Keats and Lamb, 28th December 1817, London.

    Nice one

    Or Byron Shelley and Mary Shelley in the Villa Diodati

    Surprised you forgot Polidori the vampire author.
    Interesting to think that the main reason for all that summer’s bad weather was a mega eruption half a world away.
  • stodgestodge Posts: 16,269

    stodge said:

    In F1 NEWS

    Bahrain & Saudi Arabia Grands Prix to be cancelled according to BBC

    Yet there was horse racing in Dubai today and no one has mentioned postponing the World Cup meeting in a fortnight.
    Events watched by locals versus spectators flying in?
    The World Cup is a serious race card with horses from Japan, America and Europe as well as the locals.

    I believe some of the Japanese have already said they aren't coming but at the moment the actual meeting is going ahead.
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