I've come to LA for the weekend and man the smog is fucking terrible. I know the pollution is bad here but holy shit this is ridiculous, you could literally seethe smog dome over the city from the plane.
In better news with this flight I've secured my silver status, doubt I'll make gold this year now though. Might be able to do it next year as I'll have to fly here for work every couple of months.
Sadiq Khan's ultra-low emissions zone looking a bit better?
Detail from a 20 years' old obituary I was reading earlier.
Yes it is probably the most exclusive and elite club in London. Past members include the Duke of Wellington, Beau Brammell, Prince Philip and David Cameron. The King held his stag night there.
Membership is £85 000 a year (more than annual Eton fees) and the waiting list is currently closed. It is all male so Truss couldn’t get in even in the unlikely event she ever made the waiting list
That does bring out a well hidden socialist streak in me.
Not so much that for me as to wonder why people would be so desperate to leer at such Veblenian excess. Also poshness when they themselves wouldn't be allowed in (except through the service door to wash the dishes).
Unless of course they are researchers studying social pathologies.
The fact that they rank Annabels as more exclusive than White’s suggests that, how do I put this politely, they don’t have a fucking clue
My grandfather was a member of Annabels and the Savile club but White’s membership requires you to be aristocracy of good standing essentially
My Dad was a member of White’s. He wasn’t an aristocrat of good standing or otherwise.
I could find out what the fees at White’s are. But I am almost certain that they will be around £2,000-2,500. The fees cover the operating costs and a small surplus for redecoration every so often. They will under no circumstances be anywhere near £85,000.
The problem is @HYUFD is that you found an article on line which referenced rumours about the fee. You are now digging and defending it. Why? Haven’t you anything more constructive to do?
Good for your father but a large percentage of White’s will be aristocracy or at the very least old money and given White’s don’t disclose their fees you cannot say what they are exactly or disprove they go up to £85k.
FFS. You have no idea what they are. You are relying on a line in a magazine which references a rumour and digging in.
You have made the contention. I have said that doesn’t sound right based on my experience (I chose to join an alternative club).
It’s up to you to provide the evidence for your assertion.
Detail from a 20 years' old obituary I was reading earlier.
Yes it is probably the most exclusive and elite club in London. Past members include the Duke of Wellington, Beau Brammell, Prince Philip and David Cameron. The King held his stag night there.
Membership is £85 000 a year (more than annual Eton fees) and the waiting list is currently closed. It is all male so Truss couldn’t get in even in the unlikely event she ever made the waiting list
That does bring out a well hidden socialist streak in me.
Not so much that for me as to wonder why people would be so desperate to leer at such Veblenian excess. Also poshness when they themselves wouldn't be allowed in (except through the service door to wash the dishes).
Unless of course they are researchers studying social pathologies.
The fact that they rank Annabels as more exclusive than White’s suggests that, how do I put this politely, they don’t have a fucking clue
My grandfather was a member of Annabels and the Savile club but White’s membership requires you to be aristocracy of good standing essentially
My Dad was a member of White’s. He wasn’t an aristocrat of good standing or otherwise.
I could find out what the fees at White’s are. But I am almost certain that they will be around £2,000-2,500. The fees cover the operating costs and a small surplus for redecoration every so often. They will under no circumstances be anywhere near £85,000.
The problem is @HYUFD is that you found an article on line which referenced rumours about the fee. You are now digging and defending it. Why? Haven’t you anything more constructive to do?
Good for your father but a large percentage of White’s will be aristocracy or at the very least old money and given White’s don’t disclose their fees you cannot say what they are exactly or disprove they go up to £85k.
Telegraph said it was £850 in 2013 so it seems unlikely it is £85k now. I suspect you are quoting AI which is picking up a duff reference.
Up to £85k and no it was not AI it was the website I linked to earlier. God we need Leon back on this site, if Friday nights on PB are going to be as pedantically tedious as this!
This is the “about us” section of that website. I can smell the journalist values and dedication to accurate reporting from here
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Detail from a 20 years' old obituary I was reading earlier.
Yes it is probably the most exclusive and elite club in London. Past members include the Duke of Wellington, Beau Brammell, Prince Philip and David Cameron. The King held his stag night there.
Membership is £85 000 a year (more than annual Eton fees) and the waiting list is currently closed. It is all male so Truss couldn’t get in even in the unlikely event she ever made the waiting list
That does bring out a well hidden socialist streak in me.
Not so much that for me as to wonder why people would be so desperate to leer at such Veblenian excess. Also poshness when they themselves wouldn't be allowed in (except through the service door to wash the dishes).
Unless of course they are researchers studying social pathologies.
The fact that they rank Annabels as more exclusive than White’s suggests that, how do I put this politely, they don’t have a fucking clue
My grandfather was a member of Annabels and the Savile club but White’s membership requires you to be aristocracy of good standing essentially
My Dad was a member of White’s. He wasn’t an aristocrat of good standing or otherwise.
I could find out what the fees at White’s are. But I am almost certain that they will be around £2,000-2,500. The fees cover the operating costs and a small surplus for redecoration every so often. They will under no circumstances be anywhere near £85,000.
The problem is @HYUFD is that you found an article on line which referenced rumours about the fee. You are now digging and defending it. Why? Haven’t you anything more constructive to do?
Good for your father but a large percentage of White’s will be aristocracy or at the very least old money and given White’s don’t disclose their fees you cannot say what they are exactly or disprove they go up to £85k.
FFS. You have no idea what they are. You are relying on a line in a magazine which references a rumour and digging in.
You have made the contention. I have said that doesn’t sound right based on my experience (I chose to join an alternative club).
It’s up to you to provide the evidence for your assertion.
Which is the problem with a sloppy internet. Once you have made-up non-facts online, it's too easy for them to get recycled into sources that sound more respectable, and so on...
Yes, a rather greedy, avaricious and nasty thing admittedly.
I had to spend some time with him and Vivian Imermann back in the day.
The best way to describe them would be “the sort of men who did well out of the war” (although it’s a rather dated reference now). Imermann got his start buying South African businesses from western companies who were divesting due to apartheid.
Eng: My daughter milked a cow. Scots: Mine dochter milkit ane coo. [ch as in loch, obvs] Frisian (fide Google Translate): Myn dochter molk in ko. Danish (ditto): Min datter malkede en ko. Dutch: Mijn dochter heeft een koe gemolken. German: Meine Tochter hat eine Kuh gemolken.
Norwegian 'joke'. "Once you hear Finnish you realise that German, Swedish and English are just dialects of Norwegian,"
Some linguists believe that (middle) English derived at core from Old Norse rather than Old English. Some of the evidence is there in Carnyx’s examples - English adopts the Scandinavian word order rather than sticking the verb at the end, like Germanic languages including Old English do. So maybe English is just a dialect of Norwegian?
There are certainly quite intimate borrowing from Norse, such as parts of the verb to be (are, rather than sind) some pronouns, etc. The argument is that OE and ON were actually to some extent mutually intelligible and what resulted was a sort of creole, with the grammatical endings worn down because they were different in both languages. But the underlying language is West Germanic rather than North Germanic.
This podcast is absolutely fantastic about the English Language - really goes into the roots. On the face of it a boring subject for a million hours of a podcast but it really is fascinating.
Here’s an article setting out the thesis that Middle English derived from the dialect spoken in the East Midlands, within the Danelaw, not Wessex-ian Old English and hence has core syntax derived heavily from Old Norse:
In the immediate aftermath of the Norman Conquest and the social upheaval that it caused, Middle English was created by a remarkably large importation of Old English vocabulary into both the open-class and grammatical lexicons on the syntactic model of Norse.
Middle English speakers of the East Midlands and the North did not “borrow” Norse words; children simply brought them into their native language from the late 11th to the early 13th century by appropriating from their parents’ and peers’ Norse and Old English vocabularies on a nearly equal basis. As a grammatical system, they used the Norse model. While the parents may often have been speaking mutually comprehensible amalgams of their different native Germanic languages, their children were already creating from these vocabularies a new North Germanic tongue—the language which we today call Middle English.
Laughable to think those 'English patriots' sticking flags on lampposts in protest against multiculturalism are the product of medieval multiculturalism.
Wait until they hear how small boat arrivals converted the land to their new religion...
Eng: My daughter milked a cow. Scots: Mine dochter milkit ane coo. [ch as in loch, obvs] Frisian (fide Google Translate): Myn dochter molk in ko. Danish (ditto): Min datter malkede en ko. Dutch: Mijn dochter heeft een koe gemolken. German: Meine Tochter hat eine Kuh gemolken.
Norwegian 'joke'. "Once you hear Finnish you realise that German, Swedish and English are just dialects of Norwegian,"
Some linguists believe that (middle) English derived at core from Old Norse rather than Old English. Some of the evidence is there in Carnyx’s examples - English adopts the Scandinavian word order rather than sticking the verb at the end, like Germanic languages including Old English do. So maybe English is just a dialect of Norwegian?
There are certainly quite intimate borrowing from Norse, such as parts of the verb to be (are, rather than sind) some pronouns, etc. The argument is that OE and ON were actually to some extent mutually intelligible and what resulted was a sort of creole, with the grammatical endings worn down because they were different in both languages. But the underlying language is West Germanic rather than North Germanic.
This podcast is absolutely fantastic about the English Language - really goes into the roots. On the face of it a boring subject for a million hours of a podcast but it really is fascinating.
Here’s an article setting out the thesis that Middle English derived from the dialect spoken in the East Midlands, within the Danelaw, not Wessex-ian Old English and hence has core syntax derived heavily from Old Norse:
In the immediate aftermath of the Norman Conquest and the social upheaval that it caused, Middle English was created by a remarkably large importation of Old English vocabulary into both the open-class and grammatical lexicons on the syntactic model of Norse.
Middle English speakers of the East Midlands and the North did not “borrow” Norse words; children simply brought them into their native language from the late 11th to the early 13th century by appropriating from their parents’ and peers’ Norse and Old English vocabularies on a nearly equal basis. As a grammatical system, they used the Norse model. While the parents may often have been speaking mutually comprehensible amalgams of their different native Germanic languages, their children were already creating from these vocabularies a new North Germanic tongue—the language which we today call Middle English.
Laughable to think those 'English patriots' sticking flags on lampposts in protest against multiculturalism are the product of medieval multiculturalism.
Wait until they hear how small boat arrivals converted the land to their new religion...
Talking of which, and recognising that
a) it's largely the weather (as was the bad run in the first part of the year) and b) this probably jinxes it,
Since November 14 no migrants have been recorded arriving in the country by boat
Not even Whites or Soho House charge £500k for membership, so whatever Truss is offering better be good
I don't really think White's and Soho House are comparable.
I would be interested to find if anybody has ever been a member of both? Maybe Prince Harry?
The former elite old money, the latter exclusive new money mainly
Soho House may have been exclusive in the past, but these days it's a commercial enterprise run for profit who will (literally) take anyone if they're willing to pony up.
Personally, I quite like the slightly quirkier London Clubs: I think my favourite is Buck's.
You're right about Soho House. There's a branch in Brighton. They'll take absolutely anybody; I was invited to join. I went once, as a guest. The food was shite. It was full of young posers who were full of themselves. Never again.
IEvening P.B.
I personally think there's something fairly odd about private members's clubs. It's all very needy and psychologically curious, I would think there.
Having worked in St James's for the best part of 15 years, I think I've been a guest at pretty much every private member's club except Boodle's.
If I still worked there, I think I'd join the RAC or the Royal Overseas League, because they both have fabulous swimming pools, right in the centre of London. And my old swimming pool (at the YMCA off Tottenham Court Road) has shut, which means the Oasis is basically unusable.
My colleagues were Buck's members, and that was a lot of fun - they did a great job of inviting interesting speakers, with a particularly strong focus on historians. I remember seeing Andrew Robert's there, and he was very entertaining. The late Christopher Lee was also member, and even into his 90s would hang out at the bar. They were constantly pestering me to join, but the way I looked at it, I was always going with them, so it wasn't worth the bother.
I was proposed for the Groucho Club, but they turned me down.
Isn't it a principle of the Groucho club to not allow membership to any one who wants to join?
I don't think it truly a club, but the Royal Society of Medicine is just a few hundred quid a year, and the food and accommodation are both good and good value.
Detail from a 20 years' old obituary I was reading earlier.
Yes it is probably the most exclusive and elite club in London. Past members include the Duke of Wellington, Beau Brammell, Prince Philip and David Cameron. The King held his stag night there.
Membership is £85 000 a year (more than annual Eton fees) and the waiting list is currently closed. It is all male so Truss couldn’t get in even in the unlikely event she ever made the waiting list
That does bring out a well hidden socialist streak in me.
Not so much that for me as to wonder why people would be so desperate to leer at such Veblenian excess. Also poshness when they themselves wouldn't be allowed in (except through the service door to wash the dishes).
Unless of course they are researchers studying social pathologies.
The fact that they rank Annabels as more exclusive than White’s suggests that, how do I put this politely, they don’t have a fucking clue
My grandfather was a member of Annabels and the Savile club but White’s membership requires you to be aristocracy of good standing essentially
My Dad was a member of White’s. He wasn’t an aristocrat of good standing or otherwise.
I could find out what the fees at White’s are. But I am almost certain that they will be around £2,000-2,500. The fees cover the operating costs and a small surplus for redecoration every so often. They will under no circumstances be anywhere near £85,000.
The problem is @HYUFD is that you found an article on line which referenced rumours about the fee. You are now digging and defending it. Why? Haven’t you anything more constructive to do?
Good for your father but a large percentage of White’s will be aristocracy or at the very least old money and given White’s don’t disclose their fees you cannot say what they are exactly or disprove they go up to £85k.
FFS. You have no idea what they are. You are relying on a line in a magazine which references a rumour and digging in.
You have made the contention. I have said that doesn’t sound right based on my experience (I chose to join an alternative club).
It’s up to you to provide the evidence for your assertion.
"Up to" could be doing a lot of work here. If it is £2k for a standard annual membership might £85k be a lifetime membership? Corporate membership? Membership including some exclusive private hire? It seems unlikely to be completely made up even if it is very misleading.
@haleaziz.bsky.social with a new scoop: ICE now gets a running list of every person who is going to be taking a domestic flight inside the United States from the TSA and runs it through their database looking for targets. This explains the Babson College student's arrest.
Wow, government departments that actually speak to each other and exchange information.
I don't have any particular issue with this, so long as they make sure that they're picking up the right Jose Hernandez. It becomes an issue when it's a common name, and a US citizen with a Hispanic name gets dragged off into custody.
Of course, at least have a date of birth or ID card copy to go with the name.
IIRC after 9/11 it took a while for people with similar names to those on the watch list to get properly identified as allowed travellers. It must suck to have the same name as someone wanted.
How do you feel about compulsory UK ID cards? Happy for HMG to have access to everyone's bank account data and card transactions? Should we have everyone's DNA on the UK National DNA Database? How about CCTV on every lamppost? Automatic tracking of every vehicle?
(All these will be standard in 50 years imo.)
You think the UK will be in charge of such things rather than tomorrows Google or Facebook? Bless.
Not even Whites or Soho House charge £500k for membership, so whatever Truss is offering better be good
I don't really think White's and Soho House are comparable.
I would be interested to find if anybody has ever been a member of both? Maybe Prince Harry?
The former elite old money, the latter exclusive new money mainly
Soho House may have been exclusive in the past, but these days it's a commercial enterprise run for profit who will (literally) take anyone if they're willing to pony up.
Personally, I quite like the slightly quirkier London Clubs: I think my favourite is Buck's.
You're right about Soho House. There's a branch in Brighton. They'll take absolutely anybody; I was invited to join. I went once, as a guest. The food was shite. It was full of young posers who were full of themselves. Never again.
IEvening P.B.
I personally think there's something fairly odd about private members's clubs. It's all very needy and psychologically curious, I would think there.
I’m a member of a club.
It’s great when I am in town and need somewhere to have a pee, read a paper or take a call in privacy.
Occasionally I’ll have lunch at the club table when I am on my own. A certain type of European client likes to have dinner there.
And they put on interesting dinner/speeches. Most recently Malcolm Rifkind sharing his thoughts on the current foreign policy landscape.
Is it worth £2k per year - pretty marginal, but it’s the optionally of always being able to get a table for dinner at short notice that I am paying for.
Not even Whites or Soho House charge £500k for membership, so whatever Truss is offering better be good
I don't really think White's and Soho House are comparable.
I would be interested to find if anybody has ever been a member of both? Maybe Prince Harry?
The former elite old money, the latter exclusive new money mainly
Soho House may have been exclusive in the past, but these days it's a commercial enterprise run for profit who will (literally) take anyone if they're willing to pony up.
Personally, I quite like the slightly quirkier London Clubs: I think my favourite is Buck's.
You're right about Soho House. There's a branch in Brighton. They'll take absolutely anybody; I was invited to join. I went once, as a guest. The food was shite. It was full of young posers who were full of themselves. Never again.
IEvening P.B.
I personally think there's something fairly odd about private members's clubs. It's all very needy and psychologically curious, I would think there.
Having worked in St James's for the best part of 15 years, I think I've been a guest at pretty much every private member's club except Boodle's.
If I still worked there, I think I'd join the RAC or the Royal Overseas League, because they both have fabulous swimming pools, right in the centre of London. And my old swimming pool (at the YMCA off Tottenham Court Road) has shut, which means the Oasis is basically unusable.
My colleagues were Buck's members, and that was a lot of fun - they did a great job of inviting interesting speakers, with a particularly strong focus on historians. I remember seeing Andrew Robert's there, and he was very entertaining. The late Christopher Lee was also member, and even into his 90s would hang out at the bar. They were constantly pestering me to join, but the way I looked at it, I was always going with them, so it wasn't worth the bother.
I was proposed for the Groucho Club, but they turned me down.
I maintain my membership of the Oxford & Cambridge Club largely, in fact exclusively, for the snooker table. Which is an unjustifiable extravagance. They were desperate for members when I joined and literally the only club I could get into.
Not even Whites or Soho House charge £500k for membership, so whatever Truss is offering better be good
I don't really think White's and Soho House are comparable.
I would be interested to find if anybody has ever been a member of both? Maybe Prince Harry?
The former elite old money, the latter exclusive new money mainly
Soho House may have been exclusive in the past, but these days it's a commercial enterprise run for profit who will (literally) take anyone if they're willing to pony up.
Personally, I quite like the slightly quirkier London Clubs: I think my favourite is Buck's.
You're right about Soho House. There's a branch in Brighton. They'll take absolutely anybody; I was invited to join. I went once, as a guest. The food was shite. It was full of young posers who were full of themselves. Never again.
IEvening P.B.
I personally think there's something fairly odd about private members's clubs. It's all very needy and psychologically curious, I would think there.
Having worked in St James's for the best part of 15 years, I think I've been a guest at pretty much every private member's club except Boodle's.
If I still worked there, I think I'd join the RAC or the Royal Overseas League, because they both have fabulous swimming pools, right in the centre of London. And my old swimming pool (at the YMCA off Tottenham Court Road) has shut, which means the Oasis is basically unusable.
My colleagues were Buck's members, and that was a lot of fun - they did a great job of inviting interesting speakers, with a particularly strong focus on historians. I remember seeing Andrew Robert's there, and he was very entertaining. The late Christopher Lee was also member, and even into his 90s would hang out at the bar. They were constantly pestering me to join, but the way I looked at it, I was always going with them, so it wasn't worth the bother.
I was proposed for the Groucho Club, but they turned me down.
Isn't it a principle of the Groucho club to not allow membership to any one who wants to join?
I don't think it truly a club, but the Royal Society of Medicine is just a few hundred quid a year, and the food and accommodation are both good and good value.
I note that it’s the lefties on blue sky who are getting exercised about a new generation accessing Orwell.
Its more how Orwell gets distorted by Righties that haven't read any Orwell apart from Animal Farm at school, and a few out of context quotes on Twitter.
If Orwell was alive today he would probably be in Your Party, or if he could get over his homophobia*, the Greens.
I've come to LA for the weekend and man the smog is fucking terrible. I know the pollution is bad here but holy shit this is ridiculous, you could literally seethe smog dome over the city from the plane.
In better news with this flight I've secured my silver status, doubt I'll make gold this year now though. Might be able to do it next year as I'll have to fly here for work every couple of months.
Silver means you get lounge access when flying economy; that's a decent perk if you fly a lot. Gold gives you slightly nicer lounges, but that's only a meaningful benefit at Heathrow.
Detail from a 20 years' old obituary I was reading earlier.
Yes it is probably the most exclusive and elite club in London. Past members include the Duke of Wellington, Beau Brammell, Prince Philip and David Cameron. The King held his stag night there.
Membership is £85 000 a year (more than annual Eton fees) and the waiting list is currently closed. It is all male so Truss couldn’t get in even in the unlikely event she ever made the waiting list
That does bring out a well hidden socialist streak in me.
Not so much that for me as to wonder why people would be so desperate to leer at such Veblenian excess. Also poshness when they themselves wouldn't be allowed in (except through the service door to wash the dishes).
Unless of course they are researchers studying social pathologies.
The fact that they rank Annabels as more exclusive than White’s suggests that, how do I put this politely, they don’t have a fucking clue
My grandfather was a member of Annabels and the Savile club but White’s membership requires you to be aristocracy of good standing essentially
My Dad was a member of White’s. He wasn’t an aristocrat of good standing or otherwise.
I could find out what the fees at White’s are. But I am almost certain that they will be around £2,000-2,500. The fees cover the operating costs and a small surplus for redecoration every so often. They will under no circumstances be anywhere near £85,000.
The problem is @HYUFD is that you found an article on line which referenced rumours about the fee. You are now digging and defending it. Why? Haven’t you anything more constructive to do?
Good for your father but a large percentage of White’s will be aristocracy or at the very least old money and given White’s don’t disclose their fees you cannot say what they are exactly or disprove they go up to £85k.
FFS. You have no idea what they are. You are relying on a line in a magazine which references a rumour and digging in.
You have made the contention. I have said that doesn’t sound right based on my experience (I chose to join an alternative club).
It’s up to you to provide the evidence for your assertion.
"Up to" could be doing a lot of work here. If it is £2k for a standard annual membership might £85k be a lifetime membership? Corporate membership? Membership including some exclusive private hire? It seems unlikely to be completely made up even if it is very misleading.
Whites doesn’t do any of that as far as I aware. Some of the clubs use to have lifetime membership as a gift after 50 years of subscriptions but that would be stretching the use of the agreement.
Private hire is available to all members. And yeh, corporate membership, that’s a hard no.
I note that it’s the lefties on blue sky who are getting exercised about a new generation accessing Orwell.
Its more how Orwell gets distorted by Righties that haven't read any Orwell apart from Animal Farm at school, and a few out of context quotes on Twitter.
If Orwell was alive today he would probably be in Your Party, or if he could get over his homophobia*, the Greens.
*fairly typical for his generation of course.
What you mean the CIA funded anti-Communist propaganda-laced cartoon wasn’t an accurate telling of the story?
Not even Whites or Soho House charge £500k for membership, so whatever Truss is offering better be good
I don't really think White's and Soho House are comparable.
I would be interested to find if anybody has ever been a member of both? Maybe Prince Harry?
The former elite old money, the latter exclusive new money mainly
Soho House may have been exclusive in the past, but these days it's a commercial enterprise run for profit who will (literally) take anyone if they're willing to pony up.
Personally, I quite like the slightly quirkier London Clubs: I think my favourite is Buck's.
You're right about Soho House. There's a branch in Brighton. They'll take absolutely anybody; I was invited to join. I went once, as a guest. The food was shite. It was full of young posers who were full of themselves. Never again.
IEvening P.B.
I personally think there's something fairly odd about private members's clubs. It's all very needy and psychologically curious, I would think there.
Having worked in St James's for the best part of 15 years, I think I've been a guest at pretty much every private member's club except Boodle's.
If I still worked there, I think I'd join the RAC or the Royal Overseas League, because they both have fabulous swimming pools, right in the centre of London. And my old swimming pool (at the YMCA off Tottenham Court Road) has shut, which means the Oasis is basically unusable.
My colleagues were Buck's members, and that was a lot of fun - they did a great job of inviting interesting speakers, with a particularly strong focus on historians. I remember seeing Andrew Robert's there, and he was very entertaining. The late Christopher Lee was also member, and even into his 90s would hang out at the bar. They were constantly pestering me to join, but the way I looked at it, I was always going with them, so it wasn't worth the bother.
I was proposed for the Groucho Club, but they turned me down.
I maintain my membership of the Oxford & Cambridge Club largely, in fact exclusively, for the snooker table. Which is an unjustifiable extravagance. They were desperate for members when I joined and literally the only club I could get into.
Samuel Johnson's neologism 'unclubbable' is a most useful word in splitting up the human race into the set of those who would join a club and the club those who would not.
Sherlock Holmes's brother Mycroft, utterly unclubbable, belongs to their club, The Diogenes, but some of us are so far gone we would even resign from that.
I note that it’s the lefties on blue sky who are getting exercised about a new generation accessing Orwell.
Its more how Orwell gets distorted by Righties that haven't read any Orwell apart from Animal Farm at school, and a few out of context quotes on Twitter.
If Orwell was alive today he would probably be in Your Party, or if he could get over his homophobia*, the Greens.
*fairly typical for his generation of course.
What you mean the CIA funded anti-Communist propaganda-laced cartoon wasn’t an accurate telling of the story?
I was thinking the PB discussion about London private members clubs was the replacement for the chatter we used to have about frequent flyer programmes. Turns out not.
I am not a member of a London club or FF programme but I am proud holder of Lidl Plus, which allows me occasional discounts on affordable stollen.
I've come to LA for the weekend and man the smog is fucking terrible. I know the pollution is bad here but holy shit this is ridiculous, you could literally seethe smog dome over the city from the plane.
In better news with this flight I've secured my silver status, doubt I'll make gold this year now though. Might be able to do it next year as I'll have to fly here for work every couple of months.
To be fair, it's not normally this bad. This is pretty unusual.
Widespread disgust on facebook this evening on the news that the State Pension will go up in line with the Triple Lock. People think it should be at least the value of the minimum wage (£25k per year).
The minimum wage is an hourly rate, so there's no read across
I shall remind the commenters of that, I'm sure they'll take it well.
Maybe remind them that the government expects an adult to live on the UC standard allowance which is £93 a week.
you forgot the other shedload they would get , free rent , council tax, heating help and on and on
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You have made the contention. I have said that doesn’t sound right based on my experience (I chose to join an alternative club).
It’s up to you to provide the evidence for your assertion.
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The best way to describe them would be “the sort of men who did well out of the war” (although it’s a rather dated reference now). Imermann got his start buying South African businesses from western companies who were divesting due to apartheid.
a) it's largely the weather (as was the bad run in the first part of the year) and
b) this probably jinxes it,
Since November 14 no migrants have been recorded arriving in the country by boat
https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/days-without-migrant-boat-crossings-nears-longest-stretch-5HjdPKp_2/
I note that it’s the lefties on blue sky who are getting exercised about a new generation accessing Orwell.
I don't think it truly a club, but the Royal Society of Medicine is just a few hundred quid a year, and the food and accommodation are both good and good value.
It’s great when I am in town and need somewhere to have a pee, read a paper or take a call in privacy.
Occasionally I’ll have lunch at the club table when I am on my own. A certain type of European client likes to have dinner there.
And they put on interesting dinner/speeches. Most recently Malcolm Rifkind sharing his thoughts on the current foreign policy landscape.
Is it worth £2k per year - pretty marginal, but it’s the optionally of always being able to get a table for dinner at short notice that I am paying for.
If Orwell was alive today he would probably be in Your Party, or if he could get over his homophobia*, the Greens.
*fairly typical for his generation of course.
Private hire is available to all members. And yeh, corporate membership, that’s a hard no.
Sherlock Holmes's brother Mycroft, utterly unclubbable, belongs to their club, The Diogenes, but some of us are so far gone we would even resign from that.
I am not a member of a London club or FF programme but I am proud holder of Lidl Plus, which allows me occasional discounts on affordable stollen.
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