@DPJHodges Government sources insisting Ministers did not lie over nature of Collins evidence because they didn’t see it until yesterday. Which basically comes down to your interpretation of what a lie is. My view is the Starmer and Jarvis statements were. Others may be more charitable.
It sounds like they're admitting that the Tories aren't to blame. But, what made them think the Tories were to blame in the first place? Did they not ask what had happened? All very odd.
Hodges whilst not in reverse seems to be back pedalling from his earlier statement.
Hodges was once a really good columnist from my side of the fence. He does seem to have gone native since he took the Ted Verity shilling.
One of Trump's election pledges was to stop sending US money abroad - to Ukraine, to China (via trade), in Aid to poor countries.
I know that this is more a bailout of an American hedge fund friend of Trump's than of Argentina, but is this potentially a lot more damaging to Trump than most of the things that have upset people who were already anti-Trump?
What is America First about bailing out Argentina to the tune of $40bn and counting?
At the same time as Argentina is taking almost the entirety of the US soy bean export market, thank to China's retaliatory tariffs that Trump's tariffs have provoked.
The only MAGA argument for this is that it's making Argentina great again ?
@DPJHodges Just to be crystal clear. Keir Starmer said in the House yesterday:
“What was on issue in the trial is not the position of the current Government, but the position of the last Government”.
That statement was a clear, provable lie. Collins literally cut and pasted from the Labour manifesto because the position of the current government was key to the trial.
He may eventually take the win, but Hodges seems a little ahead of himself here.
SKS told a lie?
Never.
Wouldn't it be more difficult to find when he disnt lie?
Aren't both you and Hodges walking a fine line with what is undoubtedly unParliamentary language?
Except neither Hodges or a random on PB are in Parliament...
@DPJHodges Just to be crystal clear. Keir Starmer said in the House yesterday:
“What was on issue in the trial is not the position of the current Government, but the position of the last Government”.
That statement was a clear, provable lie. Collins literally cut and pasted from the Labour manifesto because the position of the current government was key to the trial.
He may eventually take the win, but Hodges seems a little ahead of himself here.
SKS told a lie?
Never.
Wouldn't it be more difficult to find when he disnt lie?
Aren't both you and Hodges walking a fine line with what is undoubtedly unParliamentary language?
Except neither Hodges or a random on PB are in Parliament...
If they were they would be protected by Parliamentary Privilege, and merely censured, rather than sued for suggesting someone "lied".
@DPJHodges Just to be crystal clear. Keir Starmer said in the House yesterday:
“What was on issue in the trial is not the position of the current Government, but the position of the last Government”.
That statement was a clear, provable lie. Collins literally cut and pasted from the Labour manifesto because the position of the current government was key to the trial.
He may eventually take the win, but Hodges seems a little ahead of himself here.
SKS told a lie?
Never.
Wouldn't it be more difficult to find when he disnt lie?
Aren't both you and Hodges walking a fine line with what is undoubtedly unParliamentary language?
Except neither Hodges or a random on PB are in Parliament...
Out of interest was it @scampi25 who "liked" that post?
One of Trump's election pledges was to stop sending US money abroad - to Ukraine, to China (via trade), in Aid to poor countries.
I know that this is more a bailout of an American hedge fund friend of Trump's than of Argentina, but is this potentially a lot more damaging to Trump than most of the things that have upset people who were already anti-Trump?
What is America First about bailing out Argentina to the tune of $40bn and counting?
At the same time as Argentina is taking almost the entirety of the US soy bean export market, thank to China's retaliatory tariffs that Trump's tariffs have provoked.
The only MAGA argument for this is that it's making Argentina great again ?
I guess it's a test of the extent to which MAGA is a Trump personality cult - so whatever Trump does defines what MAGA is and what his supporters think - or that Trump tapped into a growing political current with some degree of internal consistency that exists independent of Trump, of American Isolationism/Exceptionalism.
If this doesn't hurt him much at all then the personality cult aspect is much the stronger, but if he's hurt by it significantly then that America First ideology stands as its own thing, independent of Trump.
So, if you were hoping that MAGA was going to fade into irrelevance following Trump's future peaceful demise in his sleep, you'd actually be hoping that this didn't hurt him much at all.
Chasing Reform voters has now seen Labour drop to 15% . At what point will the penny drop in no 10 or will they wait to they’re barely breaking double digits .
Shabana Mahmood's comments paraphrasing (And only just) regarding the lack of celebration over Trump's Gaza deal will have won the left back I think though.
The silence of the “Palestine” mob this week has been astonishing.
Either they’re paid protesters, as with many in the US, or “Peace” was never their actual objective.
Perhaps they don’t want to see Trump take the credit, or perhaps they just hate the Jews.
You do realise "paid protestors" is an anti-Semitic trope?
No it isn’t.
Saying that George Soros and the Open Society Foundation are funding a bunch of crazies in the US, is an absolute fact.
Critisism of Soros isn’t antisemitism, in the same way that critisism of Netanyahu isn’t antisemitism.
Chasing Reform voters has now seen Labour drop to 15% . At what point will the penny drop in no 10 or will they wait to they’re barely breaking double digits .
Shabana Mahmood's comments paraphrasing (And only just) regarding the lack of celebration over Trump's Gaza deal will have won the left back I think though.
The silence of the “Palestine” mob this week has been astonishing.
Either they’re paid protesters, as with many in the US, or “Peace” was never their actual objective.
Perhaps they don’t want to see Trump take the credit, or perhaps they just hate the Jews.
You do realise "paid protestors" is an anti-Semitic trope?
No it isn’t.
Saying that George Soros and the Open Society Foundation are funding a bunch of crazies in the US, is an absolute fact.
Critisism of Soros isn’t antisemitism, in the same way that critisism of Netanyahu isn’t antisemitism.
So moving to visit the ‘Speak Their Name’ exhibition in Parliament. The beautiful quilts are created by families & friends in loving memory of someone they’ve lost to suicide. A powerful reminder of the need for continued work on suicide prevention: speaktheirname.org/home/
Chasing Reform voters has now seen Labour drop to 15% . At what point will the penny drop in no 10 or will they wait to they’re barely breaking double digits .
Shabana Mahmood's comments paraphrasing (And only just) regarding the lack of celebration over Trump's Gaza deal will have won the left back I think though.
The silence of the “Palestine” mob this week has been astonishing.
Either they’re paid protesters, as with many in the US, or “Peace” was never their actual objective.
Perhaps they don’t want to see Trump take the credit, or perhaps they just hate the Jews.
You do realise "paid protestors" is an anti-Semitic trope?
No it isn’t.
Saying that George Soros and the Open Society Foundation are funding a bunch of crazies in the US, is an absolute fact.
Critisism of Soros isn’t antisemitism, in the same way that critisism of Netanyahu isn’t antisemitism.
Definitions of "bunch of crazies" and "absolute fact" may differ.
On the middle east peace plan, I'd suspect that all are glad the senseless killing has mostly stopped but that it's very precarious. If it holds and results in a long-term solution then credit to Trump.
Chasing Reform voters has now seen Labour drop to 15% . At what point will the penny drop in no 10 or will they wait to they’re barely breaking double digits .
Shabana Mahmood's comments paraphrasing (And only just) regarding the lack of celebration over Trump's Gaza deal will have won the left back I think though.
The silence of the “Palestine” mob this week has been astonishing.
Either they’re paid protesters, as with many in the US, or “Peace” was never their actual objective.
Perhaps they don’t want to see Trump take the credit, or perhaps they just hate the Jews.
You do realise "paid protestors" is an anti-Semitic trope?
No it isn’t.
Saying that George Soros and the Open Society Foundation are funding a bunch of crazies in the US, is an absolute fact.
Critisism of Soros isn’t antisemitism, in the same way that critisism of Netanyahu isn’t antisemitism.
Bringing in legislation for RICO investigations of political funding (as Ted Cruz is doing in the Senate) is authoritarian bullshit.
Justifying that by calling political opponents "crazies" is also bullshit.
And given the GOP approach to political funding by billionaires, over the last decade at least, it's also towering hypocrisy. Citizens United was not a decision advocated for on the liberal side of politics.
Apols if posted earlier (couldn't see it) Labour in fourth on their lowest ever share in a poll (they are behind Greens before rounding) Find Out Now voting intention: 🟦 Reform UK: 32% (-) 🔵 Conservatives: 17% (-) 🟢 Greens: 15% (-) 🔴 Labour: 15% (-2) 🟠 Lib Dems: 12% (-)
Changes from 8th October [Find Out Now, 15th October, N=2,705]
With polling that evenly spread, MRPs will be the only way of making sense of it.
I am going to go out on a limb here and guess that he hasn't cleared out yes-men to replace them with people who will challenge him, thus improving the quality of decision-making.
Apols if posted earlier (couldn't see it) Labour in fourth on their lowest ever share in a poll (they are behind Greens before rounding) Find Out Now voting intention: 🟦 Reform UK: 32% (-) 🔵 Conservatives: 17% (-) 🟢 Greens: 15% (-) 🔴 Labour: 15% (-2) 🟠 Lib Dems: 12% (-)
Changes from 8th October [Find Out Now, 15th October, N=2,705]
15%, is that a record poll for a sitting government?
It might be. I thought it was 19% for Theresa in 2019. They didn't have polls in 1931 IIUC
@DPJHodges Just to be crystal clear. Keir Starmer said in the House yesterday:
“What was on issue in the trial is not the position of the current Government, but the position of the last Government”.
That statement was a clear, provable lie. Collins literally cut and pasted from the Labour manifesto because the position of the current government was key to the trial.
He may eventually take the win, but Hodges seems a little ahead of himself here.
SKS told a lie?
Never.
Wouldn't it be more difficult to find when he disnt lie?
Aren't both you and Hodges walking a fine line with what is undoubtedly unParliamentary language?
Except neither Hodges or a random on PB are in Parliament...
If they were they would be protected by Parliamentary Privilege, and merely censured, rather than sued for suggesting someone "lied".
Chasing Reform voters has now seen Labour drop to 15% . At what point will the penny drop in no 10 or will they wait to they’re barely breaking double digits .
Shabana Mahmood's comments paraphrasing (And only just) regarding the lack of celebration over Trump's Gaza deal will have won the left back I think though.
The silence of the “Palestine” mob this week has been astonishing.
Either they’re paid protesters, as with many in the US, or “Peace” was never their actual objective.
Perhaps they don’t want to see Trump take the credit, or perhaps they just hate the Jews.
You do realise "paid protestors" is an anti-Semitic trope?
No it isn’t.
Saying that George Soros and the Open Society Foundation are funding a bunch of crazies in the US, is an absolute fact.
Critisism of Soros isn’t antisemitism, in the same way that critisism of Netanyahu isn’t antisemitism.
Definitions of "bunch of crazies" and "absolute fact" may differ.
On the middle east peace plan, I'd suspect that all are glad the senseless killing has mostly stopped but that it's very precarious. If it holds and results in a long-term solution then credit to Trump.
Agree. If we are here in a year then he'll fully deserve the prize. Can't see who or how Hamas will be disarmed though. There doesn't seem to be a plan for that.
@DPJHodges Just to be crystal clear. Keir Starmer said in the House yesterday:
“What was on issue in the trial is not the position of the current Government, but the position of the last Government”.
That statement was a clear, provable lie. Collins literally cut and pasted from the Labour manifesto because the position of the current government was key to the trial.
He may eventually take the win, but Hodges seems a little ahead of himself here.
SKS told a lie?
Never.
Wouldn't it be more difficult to find when he disnt lie?
Aren't both you and Hodges walking a fine line with what is undoubtedly unParliamentary language?
Except neither Hodges or a random on PB are in Parliament...
Out of interest was it @scampi25 who "liked" that post?
@DPJHodges Just to be crystal clear. Keir Starmer said in the House yesterday:
“What was on issue in the trial is not the position of the current Government, but the position of the last Government”.
That statement was a clear, provable lie. Collins literally cut and pasted from the Labour manifesto because the position of the current government was key to the trial.
He may eventually take the win, but Hodges seems a little ahead of himself here.
SKS told a lie?
Never.
Wouldn't it be more difficult to find when he disnt lie?
Aren't both you and Hodges walking a fine line with what is undoubtedly unParliamentary language?
Except neither Hodges or a random on PB are in Parliament...
Out of interest was it @scampi25 who "liked" that post?
Apols if posted earlier (couldn't see it) Labour in fourth on their lowest ever share in a poll (they are behind Greens before rounding) Find Out Now voting intention: 🟦 Reform UK: 32% (-) 🔵 Conservatives: 17% (-) 🟢 Greens: 15% (-) 🔴 Labour: 15% (-2) 🟠 Lib Dems: 12% (-)
Changes from 8th October [Find Out Now, 15th October, N=2,705]
Bullshit generated by AI is finding itself everywhere. Anyone trying to do their job properly - such as the judge in the below story - finds themselves wading through it, generally making their life more difficult, rather than easier.
This will stop now. US govt seem determined to break Russia economically.
Hang on a minute. Trump and Putin are on a call later before Z turns up at the Oval Office tomorrow. By teatime tomorrow Zelensky could be sharing a cell with Jack Smith.
Chasing Reform voters has now seen Labour drop to 15% . At what point will the penny drop in no 10 or will they wait to they’re barely breaking double digits .
Shabana Mahmood's comments paraphrasing (And only just) regarding the lack of celebration over Trump's Gaza deal will have won the left back I think though.
The silence of the “Palestine” mob this week has been astonishing.
Either they’re paid protesters, as with many in the US, or “Peace” was never their actual objective.
Perhaps they don’t want to see Trump take the credit, or perhaps they just hate the Jews.
You do realise "paid protestors" is an anti-Semitic trope?
No it isn’t.
Saying that George Soros and the Open Society Foundation are funding a bunch of crazies in the US, is an absolute fact.
Critisism of Soros isn’t antisemitism, in the same way that critisism of Netanyahu isn’t antisemitism.
Definitions of "bunch of crazies" and "absolute fact" may differ.
On the middle east peace plan, I'd suspect that all are glad the senseless killing has mostly stopped but that it's very precarious. If it holds and results in a long-term solution then credit to Trump.
Agree. If we are here in a year then he'll fully deserve the prize. Can't see who or how Hamas will be disarmed though. There doesn't seem to be a plan for that.
Wait a minute, i'm sure I read on here that Hamas had unconditionally surrendered and as part of their Untergang would be giving up their weapons. It was about 3 minutes after Trump had announced the most beautiful, historical peace deal ever though.
Apols if posted earlier (couldn't see it) Labour in fourth on their lowest ever share in a poll (they are behind Greens before rounding) Find Out Now voting intention: 🟦 Reform UK: 32% (-) 🔵 Conservatives: 17% (-) 🟢 Greens: 15% (-) 🔴 Labour: 15% (-2) 🟠 Lib Dems: 12% (-)
Changes from 8th October [Find Out Now, 15th October, N=2,705]
15%, is that a record poll for a sitting government?
It might be. I thought it was 19% for Theresa in 2019. They didn't have polls in 1931 IIUC
Ive posted it a couple of times up thread but to clarify..... 14 % Truss Oct 22 15% Sunak x3 during the election last year and 16% same 17 % May twice in Jun 19 18% Brown Jun 09 and Sunak x 2 around locals 2024 and at least once during election
As is known, I listen to YouTube whilst working. Recently there has been a spate of AI-produced deepfake comic shorts, but it became horribly clear that some of them are out-and-out racist. Not middle-class racist ("I'm just asking questions!") but your full on black-people-eat-watermelon-and-chicken-and-are-called-the-n-word-out-loud. Facebook, YouTube etc have relaxed their speech restrictions, with inevitable results.
@DPJHodges Just to be crystal clear. Keir Starmer said in the House yesterday:
“What was on issue in the trial is not the position of the current Government, but the position of the last Government”.
That statement was a clear, provable lie. Collins literally cut and pasted from the Labour manifesto because the position of the current government was key to the trial.
He may eventually take the win, but Hodges seems a little ahead of himself here.
SKS told a lie?
Never.
Wouldn't it be more difficult to find when he disnt lie?
Aren't both you and Hodges walking a fine line with what is undoubtedly unParliamentary language?
Except neither Hodges or a random on PB are in Parliament...
Out of interest was it @scampi25 who "liked" that post?
Kemi going in high off her feet with a two footed challenge..
Badenoch has spoken to broadcasters on the football fan ban:
“This is a national disgrace. This is something that the police should be able to deal with. We cannot be a country where we tell Jewish people that they can’t come to watch football because their security is not going to be looked after. What I want to see is the police finding ways to make sure they can be secure and sending the message to the Islamists and those who are pushing anti-Jewish hatred that this does not happen in the UK. Britain has always been a sanctuary for Jews and it always should be.”
Badenoch was asked if the police should reverse the decision:
“Yes, they should. And if not, the Home Secretary should get involved. Last week, she was telling us uh all the things that she wanted to do for Jewish people. I didn’t believe her then. I remember when she was lying down in front of a Sainsbury’s because it was selling Israeli goods. They need to give confidence to Jewish people in our country. And if the Home Secretary can’t do it, then the Prime Minister should. He needs to show that he’s got a backbone and isn’t so weak that he will just allow Jewish people to be terrorised here
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Hodges was once a really good columnist from my side of the fence. He does seem to have gone native since he took the Ted Verity shilling.
The only MAGA argument for this is that it's making Argentina great again ?
Note: I’ve known these people. And yes, it actually is this bad.
https://www.richardhanania.com/p/the-based-ritual
Long read on the mores of the US new right.
Asking for a friend.
If this doesn't hurt him much at all then the personality cult aspect is much the stronger, but if he's hurt by it significantly then that America First ideology stands as its own thing, independent of Trump.
So, if you were hoping that MAGA was going to fade into irrelevance following Trump's future peaceful demise in his sleep, you'd actually be hoping that this didn't hurt him much at all.
https://x.com/bohuslavskakate/status/1978829721245770218
This will stop now. US govt seem determined to break Russia economically.
Saying that George Soros and the Open Society Foundation are funding a bunch of crazies in the US, is an absolute fact.
Critisism of Soros isn’t antisemitism, in the same way that critisism of Netanyahu isn’t antisemitism.
https://x.com/datarepublican/status/1977747923619488058
Forget Havaianas, this is the ultimate flip-flop
So moving to visit the ‘Speak Their Name’ exhibition in Parliament. The beautiful quilts are created by families & friends in loving memory of someone they’ve lost to suicide. A powerful reminder of the need for continued work on suicide prevention: speaktheirname.org/home/
https://x.com/kimleadbeater/status/1978564050603716839?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q
Who has Xi purged from the CCP Central Committee?
Attendance at next week's Fourth Plenum will reveal the extent of his recent "purge surge"
If all rumors are true, only 168/205 members (82%) and 159/171 alternates (93%) will be there
And only 17/44 of PLA members (39%)!
https://x.com/neilthomas123/status/1978499540836552864
Justifying that by calling political opponents "crazies" is also bullshit.
And given the GOP approach to political funding by billionaires, over the last decade at least, it's also towering hypocrisy.
Citizens United was not a decision advocated for on the liberal side of politics.
Can't see who or how Hamas will be disarmed though.
There doesn't seem to be a plan for that.
Kemi says Starmer misled the House at PMQs. She is going in with her boots on. She wants "resignations"!
And she doesn't give a shiny one about Parliamentary Privilege.
Now on or before 10th December 2025 from 21st October 2025
https://news.sky.com/story/politics-latest-starmer-india-labour-gaza-protests-tax-12593360?postid=10360282#liveblog-body
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Hanania
Poacher turned gamekeeper perhaps.
Huzzah from Seattle!
NEW THREAD
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/oct/16/barrister-found-to-have-used-ai-to-prepare-for-hearing-after-citing-fictitious-cases
14 % Truss Oct 22
15% Sunak x3 during the election last year and 16% same
17 % May twice in Jun 19
18% Brown Jun 09 and Sunak x 2 around locals 2024 and at least once during election
As is known, I listen to YouTube whilst working. Recently there has been a spate of AI-produced deepfake comic shorts, but it became horribly clear that some of them are out-and-out racist. Not middle-class racist ("I'm just asking questions!") but your full on black-people-eat-watermelon-and-chicken-and-are-called-the-n-word-out-loud. Facebook, YouTube etc have relaxed their speech restrictions, with inevitable results.
Erm; how much is that going to cost?
Badenoch has spoken to broadcasters on the football fan ban:
“This is a national disgrace. This is something that the police should be able to deal with. We cannot be a country where we tell Jewish people that they can’t come to watch football because their security is not going to be looked after. What I want to see is the police finding ways to make sure they can be secure and sending the message to the Islamists and those who are pushing anti-Jewish hatred that this does not happen in the UK. Britain has always been a sanctuary for Jews and it always should be.”
Badenoch was asked if the police should reverse the decision:
“Yes, they should. And if not, the Home Secretary should get involved. Last week, she was telling us uh all the things that she wanted to do for Jewish people. I didn’t believe her then. I remember when she was lying down in front of a Sainsbury’s because it was selling Israeli goods. They need to give confidence to Jewish people in our country. And if the Home Secretary can’t do it, then the Prime Minister should. He needs to show that he’s got a backbone and isn’t so weak that he will just allow Jewish people to be terrorised here