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  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 14,679

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Evening P.B.

    Interpreting that David Icke, liked by some American conspiracists, is turning against Maga.

    https://x.com/davidicke/status/1975919762619367658

    The first comment I'm seeing under there accuses David Icke of just being the voice of the liberal globalist BBC.

    Well...nI guess the BBC did broadcast his claim to be the son of God...
    He never claimed to be the son of God (in the Jesus Christ sense)
    Have you watched the interview:

    https://youtu.be/NapHiWsoFXI?si=SC5GOPN2DH-lcV0w
    Yes, and the one several years later with Wogan where the audience is far less ready fo laugh at him and Wogan is made to look a bit of a heel.
    He claimed fo be a son of the Godhead in the initial interview. Theres a further interview with Gay Byrne ln the Late Late Show in Ireland a few weeks later where he expands on what he means by it.
    He states nobody is special and that its not a 'messiah' type thing he is claiming
    But he also repeatedly compares himself to Jesus Christ - like when he says how it was slowly revealed to Jesus that he was the son of God.
    He does, yeah. My point I suppose was that he clarifies a lot in subsequent interviews, but its this Wogan Interview that is usually referenced.
    His general description of the relationship of the individual to the Creator and of Jesus Christ to the Creator is quite similar to the gnostic tradition, which is why I probably have a soft spot for him without necessarily following his worldview, or parts thereof.
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 14,523
    I’ve gone and done it. I’ve bought one of the cute book reading ghosts that light up. 👻
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 6,775

    Scott_xP said:

    Troubled ONS reveals £2bn borrowing blunder
    HMRC error will boost Rachel Reeves’s hopes of boosting headroom in November Budget [sic]
    ...
    The Office for National Statistics (ONS) said it had been informed by the taxman of an error in data supplied by HMRC that meant cash receipts raised from the sales tax between April and August this year were £2.4bn higher than previously thought.

    The ONS also reduced its estimate for borrowing in the previous financial year by a further £1bn.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/10/08/troubled-ons-reveals-2bn-borrowing-blunder/ (£££)

    Opps, missed £2.4bn. Soz.

    Not very good at math are they.
    MATHS.

    Using math is worthy of exile to ConHome.
    Is it worse than 'coronated' ?
    Coronated is a fine addition to the English language, math is a declaration of war.
    Coronated is fine for shells (conchology) and some architecture

    It's not a good word for having had a crown put on someone
    It works, the language of Shakespeare is strong enough to cope with this evolution.
    Coronated is four syllables. It works much harder than crowned
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 40,436

    Scott_xP said:

    Troubled ONS reveals £2bn borrowing blunder
    HMRC error will boost Rachel Reeves’s hopes of boosting headroom in November Budget [sic]
    ...
    The Office for National Statistics (ONS) said it had been informed by the taxman of an error in data supplied by HMRC that meant cash receipts raised from the sales tax between April and August this year were £2.4bn higher than previously thought.

    The ONS also reduced its estimate for borrowing in the previous financial year by a further £1bn.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/10/08/troubled-ons-reveals-2bn-borrowing-blunder/ (£££)

    Opps, missed £2.4bn. Soz.

    Not very good at math are they.
    MATHS.

    Using math is worthy of exile to ConHome.
    Is it worse than 'coronated' ?
    Coronated is a fine addition to the English language, math is a declaration of war.
    Wrong and wronger
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 6,775
    Longer words aren't always cleverer than shorter ones

    Myself instead of I or me being an obvious example
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 14,523
    Scott_xP said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Troubled ONS reveals £2bn borrowing blunder
    HMRC error will boost Rachel Reeves’s hopes of boosting headroom in November Budget [sic]
    ...
    The Office for National Statistics (ONS) said it had been informed by the taxman of an error in data supplied by HMRC that meant cash receipts raised from the sales tax between April and August this year were £2.4bn higher than previously thought.

    The ONS also reduced its estimate for borrowing in the previous financial year by a further £1bn.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/10/08/troubled-ons-reveals-2bn-borrowing-blunder/ (£££)

    Opps, missed £2.4bn. Soz.

    Not very good at math are they.
    MATHS.

    Using math is worthy of exile to ConHome.
    Is it worse than 'coronated' ?
    Coronated is a fine addition to the English language, math is a declaration of war.
    Wrong and wronger
    This is the moment I get up to use the loo, and don’t come back. 😌
  • StereodogStereodog Posts: 1,181
    Roger said:

    Sean_F said:

    Taz said:

    HYUFD said:

    Sir Lenny Henry wants the British government to pay £18 trillion of reparations to Caribbean nations and Black British people

    "Lenny Henry’s reparations demands won’t end racism. They’ll fuel it like never before" https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/10/08/reparations-wont-end-racism-lenny-henry/

    I love Lenny, used to see him in Nostalgia and Comics in the early eighties reading the DC comics.

    He used to be fab before reinventing himself as a race grifter

    Tell him to GFH
    I enjoyed him in Not the Nine O’Clock News.
    Three of a kind? He wasn't in NTNON
    Tiswas! Back before political correctness stopped Lenny Henry playing White characters like David Bellamy.

    He was also a very good actor later on.
    He does a loads of ads now particularly for Premier Inn so he doesn't really need any other work.

    I had an uncomfortable moment with him a few years ago. I was with three clients having lunch at Grouchos and Henry was having lunch with Dawn French at another table. The female client wanted his autograph for her son so when the waiter came to our order she asked if he would mind asking him for an autograph?

    The waiter said he was sorry but it was strictly forbidden for anyone to ask for autographs in the club.

    She decided she would just go and chance it and ask him herself. She walked over and he said in an ever rising voice. "No you can't. NO NO NO NO. Just Go away......"

    I can't think I've had a more embarrassing lunch anywhere. Ever! I thought I was going to be blackballed! (Though he was right and their privacy rules are well known)

    I had a similarly uncomfortable evening there where somone insisted on telling me how the COVID vaccine was an international mind control conspiracy. Thankfully I managed to palm her off to George Osborne who also happened to be there.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 124,183
    Scott_xP said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Troubled ONS reveals £2bn borrowing blunder
    HMRC error will boost Rachel Reeves’s hopes of boosting headroom in November Budget [sic]
    ...
    The Office for National Statistics (ONS) said it had been informed by the taxman of an error in data supplied by HMRC that meant cash receipts raised from the sales tax between April and August this year were £2.4bn higher than previously thought.

    The ONS also reduced its estimate for borrowing in the previous financial year by a further £1bn.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/10/08/troubled-ons-reveals-2bn-borrowing-blunder/ (£££)

    Opps, missed £2.4bn. Soz.

    Not very good at math are they.
    MATHS.

    Using math is worthy of exile to ConHome.
    Is it worse than 'coronated' ?
    Coronated is a fine addition to the English language, math is a declaration of war.
    Wrong and wronger
    I am either allowed to use coronated or I use that Farage photo on a regular basis.

    I will leave it up to you.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 124,183
    Stereodog said:

    Roger said:

    Sean_F said:

    Taz said:

    HYUFD said:

    Sir Lenny Henry wants the British government to pay £18 trillion of reparations to Caribbean nations and Black British people

    "Lenny Henry’s reparations demands won’t end racism. They’ll fuel it like never before" https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/10/08/reparations-wont-end-racism-lenny-henry/

    I love Lenny, used to see him in Nostalgia and Comics in the early eighties reading the DC comics.

    He used to be fab before reinventing himself as a race grifter

    Tell him to GFH
    I enjoyed him in Not the Nine O’Clock News.
    Three of a kind? He wasn't in NTNON
    Tiswas! Back before political correctness stopped Lenny Henry playing White characters like David Bellamy.

    He was also a very good actor later on.
    He does a loads of ads now particularly for Premier Inn so he doesn't really need any other work.

    I had an uncomfortable moment with him a few years ago. I was with three clients having lunch at Grouchos and Henry was having lunch with Dawn French at another table. The female client wanted his autograph for her son so when the waiter came to our order she asked if he would mind asking him for an autograph?

    The waiter said he was sorry but it was strictly forbidden for anyone to ask for autographs in the club.

    She decided she would just go and chance it and ask him herself. She walked over and he said in an ever rising voice. "No you can't. NO NO NO NO. Just Go away......"

    I can't think I've had a more embarrassing lunch anywhere. Ever! I thought I was going to be blackballed! (Though he was right and their privacy rules are well known)

    I had a similarly uncomfortable evening there where somone insisted on telling me how the COVID vaccine was an international mind control conspiracy. Thankfully I managed to palm her off to George Osborne who also happened to be there.
    OMG were we at the same Robey Warshaw dinner party?
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 4,084

    Scott_xP said:

    Troubled ONS reveals £2bn borrowing blunder
    HMRC error will boost Rachel Reeves’s hopes of boosting headroom in November Budget [sic]
    ...
    The Office for National Statistics (ONS) said it had been informed by the taxman of an error in data supplied by HMRC that meant cash receipts raised from the sales tax between April and August this year were £2.4bn higher than previously thought.

    The ONS also reduced its estimate for borrowing in the previous financial year by a further £1bn.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/10/08/troubled-ons-reveals-2bn-borrowing-blunder/ (£££)

    Opps, missed £2.4bn. Soz.

    Not very good at math are they.
    MATHS.

    Using math is worthy of exile to ConHome.
    Is it worse than 'coronated' ?
    Coronated is a fine addition to the English language, math is a declaration of war.
    Coronated is fine for shells (conchology) and some architecture

    It's not a good word for having had a crown put on someone
    It works, the language of Shakespeare is strong enough to cope with this evolution.
    Coronated is four syllables. It works much harder than crowned
    We do use coronation rather than crowning.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 7,377

    Longer words aren't always cleverer than shorter ones

    Myself instead of I or me being an obvious example

    In one episode of Poirot, a character saying "fictitional" instead of "fictional" is how we find out he's a bounder.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 14,679
    edited 6:40PM
    AnneJGP said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Troubled ONS reveals £2bn borrowing blunder
    HMRC error will boost Rachel Reeves’s hopes of boosting headroom in November Budget [sic]
    ...
    The Office for National Statistics (ONS) said it had been informed by the taxman of an error in data supplied by HMRC that meant cash receipts raised from the sales tax between April and August this year were £2.4bn higher than previously thought.

    The ONS also reduced its estimate for borrowing in the previous financial year by a further £1bn.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/10/08/troubled-ons-reveals-2bn-borrowing-blunder/ (£££)

    Opps, missed £2.4bn. Soz.

    Not very good at math are they.
    MATHS.

    Using math is worthy of exile to ConHome.
    Is it worse than 'coronated' ?
    Coronated is a fine addition to the English language, math is a declaration of war.
    Coronated is fine for shells (conchology) and some architecture

    It's not a good word for having had a crown put on someone
    It works, the language of Shakespeare is strong enough to cope with this evolution.
    Coronated is four syllables. It works much harder than crowned
    We do use coronation rather than crowning.
    Coronation is the entire procedure and celebration, crowning is the act of putting it on the noggin
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 56,167

    rcs1000 said:

    Stephen Fry? Really?

    Thank God: I thought you were telling us he was dead.
    Isn’t that the point of a game of werewolf? The whole point of this show and its ratings is a plot to kill Stephen Fry?

    I for one hope they succeed. I’m rooting for Lucy.

    They are bound to make Niko a traitor.
    In V for Vendetta, Stephen Fry was executed for possessing an antique copy of the Koran.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 33,229
    bobbob said:

    I had a quick read through kemis speech

    “ I can’t remember how to do parallel integration”

    Does anyone know what “parallel integration” is? From context I assume it’s a term from their “Computer Systems Engineering” degree started 2003

    I can’t find anything relevant on google and my tech knowledge from that era is pretty good

    Google parareal. It's a computer numerical methods thing.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 14,679

    Scott_xP said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Troubled ONS reveals £2bn borrowing blunder
    HMRC error will boost Rachel Reeves’s hopes of boosting headroom in November Budget [sic]
    ...
    The Office for National Statistics (ONS) said it had been informed by the taxman of an error in data supplied by HMRC that meant cash receipts raised from the sales tax between April and August this year were £2.4bn higher than previously thought.

    The ONS also reduced its estimate for borrowing in the previous financial year by a further £1bn.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/10/08/troubled-ons-reveals-2bn-borrowing-blunder/ (£££)

    Opps, missed £2.4bn. Soz.

    Not very good at math are they.
    MATHS.

    Using math is worthy of exile to ConHome.
    Is it worse than 'coronated' ?
    Coronated is a fine addition to the English language, math is a declaration of war.
    Wrong and wronger
    I am either allowed to use coronated or I use that Farage photo on a regular basis.

    I will leave it up to you.
    You should be in Crowning Street as sn extra
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 26,134

    AnneJGP said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Troubled ONS reveals £2bn borrowing blunder
    HMRC error will boost Rachel Reeves’s hopes of boosting headroom in November Budget [sic]
    ...
    The Office for National Statistics (ONS) said it had been informed by the taxman of an error in data supplied by HMRC that meant cash receipts raised from the sales tax between April and August this year were £2.4bn higher than previously thought.

    The ONS also reduced its estimate for borrowing in the previous financial year by a further £1bn.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/10/08/troubled-ons-reveals-2bn-borrowing-blunder/ (£££)

    Opps, missed £2.4bn. Soz.

    Not very good at math are they.
    MATHS.

    Using math is worthy of exile to ConHome.
    Is it worse than 'coronated' ?
    Coronated is a fine addition to the English language, math is a declaration of war.
    Coronated is fine for shells (conchology) and some architecture

    It's not a good word for having had a crown put on someone
    It works, the language of Shakespeare is strong enough to cope with this evolution.
    Coronated is four syllables. It works much harder than crowned
    We do use coronation rather than crowning.
    Coronation is the entire procedure and celebration, crowning is the act of putting it on the noggin
    Coronation is the chicken.
  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 7,340
    bobbob said:

    I had a quick read through kemis speech

    “ I can’t remember how to do parallel integration”

    Does anyone know what “parallel integration” is? From context I assume it’s a term from their “Computer Systems Engineering” degree started 2003

    I can’t find anything relevant on google and my tech knowledge from that era is pretty good

    Is it what we used to call simultaneous integration? You had two integration problems with two unknowns you could only resolve by doing both integrations in parallel.

    Or something like that. It was over 40 years ago ffs
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 14,679

    AnneJGP said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Troubled ONS reveals £2bn borrowing blunder
    HMRC error will boost Rachel Reeves’s hopes of boosting headroom in November Budget [sic]
    ...
    The Office for National Statistics (ONS) said it had been informed by the taxman of an error in data supplied by HMRC that meant cash receipts raised from the sales tax between April and August this year were £2.4bn higher than previously thought.

    The ONS also reduced its estimate for borrowing in the previous financial year by a further £1bn.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/10/08/troubled-ons-reveals-2bn-borrowing-blunder/ (£££)

    Opps, missed £2.4bn. Soz.

    Not very good at math are they.
    MATHS.

    Using math is worthy of exile to ConHome.
    Is it worse than 'coronated' ?
    Coronated is a fine addition to the English language, math is a declaration of war.
    Coronated is fine for shells (conchology) and some architecture

    It's not a good word for having had a crown put on someone
    It works, the language of Shakespeare is strong enough to cope with this evolution.
    Coronated is four syllables. It works much harder than crowned
    We do use coronation rather than crowning.
    Coronation is the entire procedure and celebration, crowning is the act of putting it on the noggin
    Coronation is the chicken.
    Its a generation back now so its Coronation GreatChicken
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 20,139

    I’ve gone and done it. I’ve bought one of the cute book reading ghosts that light up. 👻

    Steady on. Kemi's massive tax cut hasn't happened yet.

    (Even if it is a good policy, which I suspect it isn't, why announce it now? Osborne's IHT announcement made sense, because it stopped the Brownites planning an early election. Not even Starmer is out-of-touch enough to be doing the same. Still, I'm sure Mel Stride is totally fine with the announcement. Totally fine.)
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 14,679

    rcs1000 said:

    Stephen Fry? Really?

    Thank God: I thought you were telling us he was dead.
    Isn’t that the point of a game of werewolf? The whole point of this show and its ratings is a plot to kill Stephen Fry?

    I for one hope they succeed. I’m rooting for Lucy.

    They are bound to make Niko a traitor.
    In V for Vendetta, Stephen Fry was executed for possessing an antique copy of the Koran.
    Natalie Portman is also bald. Its a silly film.
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 8,217
    Over the channel, it sounds like the roundabout of PMs is going to continue.

    Lecornu now suggesting there’s no majority in the assembly for fresh elections so Macron could nominate a new PM.

    Problem is there’s not a majority for anything else either….
  • LeonLeon Posts: 65,848

    Leon said:

    Anyway. Good morning from Monterey Bay

    On the shadowy table that’s the £50 bottle of Monterey Pinot and the £100 pair of Nocs binoculars that was waiting in my goodie bag. Not that I’m vulgarly exulting or anything. Did I mention I love my job?

    Also a can of water for sociological interest

    Sea otter for scale (there actually is one in the picture but he’s about half a mile away)





    I presume you will be giving them a 5* review.
    I may veer towards the positive, yes
  • FossFoss Posts: 1,832

    Over the channel, it sounds like the roundabout of PMs is going to continue.

    Lecornu now suggesting there’s no majority in the assembly for fresh elections so Macron could nominate a new PM.

    Problem is there’s not a majority for anything else either….

    It's starting to sound a little like the late May years statemate. Could they really just tread water until the 2027 election?
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 20,139
    edited 6:50PM
    bobbob said:

    I had a quick read through kemis speech

    “ I can’t remember how to do parallel integration”

    Does anyone know what “parallel integration” is? From context I assume it’s a term from their “Computer Systems Engineering” degree started 2003

    I can’t find anything relevant on google and my tech knowledge from that era is pretty good

    That's the point. It's part of Kemi's "Univerzzzity sux" meme. I didn't/don't understand it, so it's obviously stupid/unnecessary.

    (It's probably less true than she realises. I'm suddenly teaching a whole pile of stuff that I haven't really thought about since I did materials science options in my degree thirty years ago. Yes, I'm having to check details and updates, but it's like an overgrown pathway- you have to clear away the rubbish, but the learning is still there. Quite fun, actually.

    Of course, the other possibility is that Kemi was rubbish at learning.)
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 124,183
    FYI - I have a new favourite PB header picture.

    https://www1.politicalbetting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/image-2.png
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 56,535

    rcs1000 said:

    Stephen Fry? Really?

    Thank God: I thought you were telling us he was dead.
    Isn’t that the point of a game of werewolf? The whole point of this show and its ratings is a plot to kill Stephen Fry?

    I for one hope they succeed. I’m rooting for Lucy.

    They are bound to make Niko a traitor.
    In V for Vendetta, Stephen Fry was executed for possessing an antique copy of the Koran.
    Natalie Portman is also bald. Its a silly film.
    Oh any film where Stephen Fry gets executed is ok with me.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 14,679
    DavidL said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Stephen Fry? Really?

    Thank God: I thought you were telling us he was dead.
    Isn’t that the point of a game of werewolf? The whole point of this show and its ratings is a plot to kill Stephen Fry?

    I for one hope they succeed. I’m rooting for Lucy.

    They are bound to make Niko a traitor.
    In V for Vendetta, Stephen Fry was executed for possessing an antique copy of the Koran.
    Natalie Portman is also bald. Its a silly film.
    Oh any film where Stephen Fry gets executed is ok with me.
    Peters Friends - the 1793 guillotine edit
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 20,139
    Remember those MC Escher-style perspective-defying photos designed to hide how tiny Rishi Sunak was? (Who was his gigantic Chief Sec?)

    CCHQ seem to have failed to renew the contract with the designer responsible.
  • bobbobbobbob Posts: 125

    bobbob said:

    I had a quick read through kemis speech

    “ I can’t remember how to do parallel integration”

    Does anyone know what “parallel integration” is? From context I assume it’s a term from their “Computer Systems Engineering” degree started 2003

    I can’t find anything relevant on google and my tech knowledge from that era is pretty good

    Is it what we used to call simultaneous integration? You had two integration problems with two unknowns you could only resolve by doing both integrations in parallel.

    Or something like that. It was over 40 years ago ffs
    Maybe, haven’t heard of that either tbh

    Always trying to learn something new if I see a term I haven’t heard before it esp around computing or maths

  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 124,183
    DavidL said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Stephen Fry? Really?

    Thank God: I thought you were telling us he was dead.
    Isn’t that the point of a game of werewolf? The whole point of this show and its ratings is a plot to kill Stephen Fry?

    I for one hope they succeed. I’m rooting for Lucy.

    They are bound to make Niko a traitor.
    In V for Vendetta, Stephen Fry was executed for possessing an antique copy of the Koran.
    Natalie Portman is also bald. Its a silly film.
    Oh any film where Stephen Fry gets executed is ok with me.
    Why do you hate the national treasure that is Stephen Fry?

    He loves his cricket for starters.
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 5,370

    bobbob said:

    I had a quick read through kemis speech

    “ I can’t remember how to do parallel integration”

    Does anyone know what “parallel integration” is? From context I assume it’s a term from their “Computer Systems Engineering” degree started 2003

    I can’t find anything relevant on google and my tech knowledge from that era is pretty good

    Is it what we used to call simultaneous integration? You had two integration problems with two unknowns you could only resolve by doing both integrations in parallel.

    Or something like that. It was over 40 years ago ffs
    ∫∫B.dA = 0 kind of thing?

    No, I think she was referring to a numerical method in computing.
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 4,084

    AnneJGP said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Troubled ONS reveals £2bn borrowing blunder
    HMRC error will boost Rachel Reeves’s hopes of boosting headroom in November Budget [sic]
    ...
    The Office for National Statistics (ONS) said it had been informed by the taxman of an error in data supplied by HMRC that meant cash receipts raised from the sales tax between April and August this year were £2.4bn higher than previously thought.

    The ONS also reduced its estimate for borrowing in the previous financial year by a further £1bn.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/10/08/troubled-ons-reveals-2bn-borrowing-blunder/ (£££)

    Opps, missed £2.4bn. Soz.

    Not very good at math are they.
    MATHS.

    Using math is worthy of exile to ConHome.
    Is it worse than 'coronated' ?
    Coronated is a fine addition to the English language, math is a declaration of war.
    Coronated is fine for shells (conchology) and some architecture

    It's not a good word for having had a crown put on someone
    It works, the language of Shakespeare is strong enough to cope with this evolution.
    Coronated is four syllables. It works much harder than crowned
    We do use coronation rather than crowning.
    Coronation is the entire procedure and celebration, crowning is the act of putting it on the noggin
    Then coronating means putting on or staging the entire procedure, surely? The contexts I've seen it used seem to mean crowning.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 124,183

    Remember those MC Escher-style perspective-defying photos designed to hide how tiny Rishi Sunak was? (Who was his gigantic Chief Sec?)

    CCHQ seem to have failed to renew the contract with the designer responsible.
    In their defence the chap in this picture is 7ft 2.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-14491689/james-mcalpine-racing-day-event.html

    I still think Boris for the LOLs made Simon Clarke Chief Sec for that very reason.
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 8,217

    I’ve gone and done it. I’ve bought one of the cute book reading ghosts that light up. 👻

    Steady on. Kemi's massive tax cut hasn't happened yet.

    (Even if it is a good policy, which I suspect it isn't, why announce it now? Osborne's IHT announcement made sense, because it stopped the Brownites planning an early election. Not even Starmer is out-of-touch enough to be doing the same. Still, I'm sure Mel Stride is totally fine with the announcement. Totally fine.)
    She needs to shift the dial.

    If she’s able to demonstrate some moderate improvement in the polls in time for May, she might, if she’s a bit lucky, be able to buy herself some more time.

    Personally I’m starting to think they’re better off giving her at least another year. I’m far from convinced anyone else would be doing any better right now.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 47,702
    Considering how split we think the USA is, here's some polling that shows remarkable cross-party support for Ukraine:

    72% of Dems and 73% of Reps support arming Ukraine and sanctioning Russia;
    71% of Dems and 86% of Reps support additional economic sanctions against Russia;

    https://x.com/OstapYarysh/status/1975958147266126289
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 57,310

    DavidL said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Stephen Fry? Really?

    Thank God: I thought you were telling us he was dead.
    Isn’t that the point of a game of werewolf? The whole point of this show and its ratings is a plot to kill Stephen Fry?

    I for one hope they succeed. I’m rooting for Lucy.

    They are bound to make Niko a traitor.
    In V for Vendetta, Stephen Fry was executed for possessing an antique copy of the Koran.
    Natalie Portman is also bald. Its a silly film.
    Oh any film where Stephen Fry gets executed is ok with me.
    Why do you hate the national treasure that is Stephen Fry?

    He loves his cricket for starters.
    You’re just jealous that you don’t have an egg and bacon tie.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 14,679
    edited 7:04PM
    Kemi gets her first post speech defector - Scott Lee an indy in Northumberland since 2021 for Cramlington East has joined the Tory group running Northumberland CC

    5% of yesterday's losses reversed lol
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 6,775

    DavidL said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Stephen Fry? Really?

    Thank God: I thought you were telling us he was dead.
    Isn’t that the point of a game of werewolf? The whole point of this show and its ratings is a plot to kill Stephen Fry?

    I for one hope they succeed. I’m rooting for Lucy.

    They are bound to make Niko a traitor.
    In V for Vendetta, Stephen Fry was executed for possessing an antique copy of the Koran.
    Natalie Portman is also bald. Its a silly film.
    Oh any film where Stephen Fry gets executed is ok with me.
    Why do you hate the national treasure that is Stephen Fry?

    He loves his cricket for starters.
    He's written some really good novels too
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 14,679
    edited 7:06PM
    AnneJGP said:

    AnneJGP said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Troubled ONS reveals £2bn borrowing blunder
    HMRC error will boost Rachel Reeves’s hopes of boosting headroom in November Budget [sic]
    ...
    The Office for National Statistics (ONS) said it had been informed by the taxman of an error in data supplied by HMRC that meant cash receipts raised from the sales tax between April and August this year were £2.4bn higher than previously thought.

    The ONS also reduced its estimate for borrowing in the previous financial year by a further £1bn.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/10/08/troubled-ons-reveals-2bn-borrowing-blunder/ (£££)

    Opps, missed £2.4bn. Soz.

    Not very good at math are they.
    MATHS.

    Using math is worthy of exile to ConHome.
    Is it worse than 'coronated' ?
    Coronated is a fine addition to the English language, math is a declaration of war.
    Coronated is fine for shells (conchology) and some architecture

    It's not a good word for having had a crown put on someone
    It works, the language of Shakespeare is strong enough to cope with this evolution.
    Coronated is four syllables. It works much harder than crowned
    We do use coronation rather than crowning.
    Coronation is the entire procedure and celebration, crowning is the act of putting it on the noggin
    Then coronating means putting on or staging the entire procedure, surely? The contexts I've seen it used seem to mean crowning.
    Coronation is a noun, not a verb

    Wedding/marrying
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 20,139

    I’ve gone and done it. I’ve bought one of the cute book reading ghosts that light up. 👻

    Steady on. Kemi's massive tax cut hasn't happened yet.

    (Even if it is a good policy, which I suspect it isn't, why announce it now? Osborne's IHT announcement made sense, because it stopped the Brownites planning an early election. Not even Starmer is out-of-touch enough to be doing the same. Still, I'm sure Mel Stride is totally fine with the announcement. Totally fine.)
    She needs to shift the dial.

    If she’s able to demonstrate some moderate improvement in the polls in time for May, she might, if she’s a bit lucky, be able to buy herself some more time.

    Personally I’m starting to think they’re better off giving her at least another year. I’m far from convinced anyone else would be doing any better right now.
    That might be the headline conclusion from the conference season. Neither Starmer nor Badenoch are that good (opinions vary on who is worse), but the touted replacements (Burnham and Jenirck) have shown how much worse they would be.

    And so we roll on.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 11,191

    Longer words aren't always cleverer than shorter ones

    Myself instead of I or me being an obvious example

    How about “me, myself, and I?”
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 6,775

    Longer words aren't always cleverer than shorter ones

    Myself instead of I or me being an obvious example

    How about “me, myself, and I?”
    That's three feet high and rising

    And much better than "myself, myself and myself"
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 7,377

    I’ve gone and done it. I’ve bought one of the cute book reading ghosts that light up. 👻

    Steady on. Kemi's massive tax cut hasn't happened yet.

    (Even if it is a good policy, which I suspect it isn't, why announce it now? Osborne's IHT announcement made sense, because it stopped the Brownites planning an early election. Not even Starmer is out-of-touch enough to be doing the same. Still, I'm sure Mel Stride is totally fine with the announcement. Totally fine.)
    She needs to shift the dial.

    If she’s able to demonstrate some moderate improvement in the polls in time for May, she might, if she’s a bit lucky, be able to buy herself some more time.

    Personally I’m starting to think they’re better off giving her at least another year. I’m far from convinced anyone else would be doing any better right now.
    That might be the headline conclusion from the conference season. Neither Starmer nor Badenoch are that good (opinions vary on who is worse), but the touted replacements (Burnham and Jenirck) have shown how much worse they would be.

    And so we roll on.
    I think it's best to have Kemi, then someone who could do ok in the election. The Tories have had too many leaders recently, and don't need three in one parliament in opposition.

    Anyone taking over now would have to worry they'd be gone before 2029.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 124,183
    Sandpit said:

    DavidL said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Stephen Fry? Really?

    Thank God: I thought you were telling us he was dead.
    Isn’t that the point of a game of werewolf? The whole point of this show and its ratings is a plot to kill Stephen Fry?

    I for one hope they succeed. I’m rooting for Lucy.

    They are bound to make Niko a traitor.
    In V for Vendetta, Stephen Fry was executed for possessing an antique copy of the Koran.
    Natalie Portman is also bald. Its a silly film.
    Oh any film where Stephen Fry gets executed is ok with me.
    Why do you hate the national treasure that is Stephen Fry?

    He loves his cricket for starters.
    You’re just jealous that you don’t have an egg and bacon tie.
    I want the egg and bacon jacket and trousers.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 56,167

    Longer words aren't always cleverer than shorter ones

    Myself instead of I or me being an obvious example

    How about “me, myself, and I?”
    "Me, Myself, und Irene", surely :lol:
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 40,436
    We have a wannabe dictator, making up stuff and threatening people if he doesn't get his own way.

    And Trump is doing some dodgy shit as well
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 124,183
    Scott_xP said:

    We have a wannabe dictator, making up stuff and threatening people if he doesn't get his own way.

    And Trump is doing some dodgy shit as well

    Not the first time I have been compared to Donald Trump in recent weeks.

    A colleague said I have Donald Trump like subtlety.
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 8,217
    carnforth said:

    I’ve gone and done it. I’ve bought one of the cute book reading ghosts that light up. 👻

    Steady on. Kemi's massive tax cut hasn't happened yet.

    (Even if it is a good policy, which I suspect it isn't, why announce it now? Osborne's IHT announcement made sense, because it stopped the Brownites planning an early election. Not even Starmer is out-of-touch enough to be doing the same. Still, I'm sure Mel Stride is totally fine with the announcement. Totally fine.)
    She needs to shift the dial.

    If she’s able to demonstrate some moderate improvement in the polls in time for May, she might, if she’s a bit lucky, be able to buy herself some more time.

    Personally I’m starting to think they’re better off giving her at least another year. I’m far from convinced anyone else would be doing any better right now.
    That might be the headline conclusion from the conference season. Neither Starmer nor Badenoch are that good (opinions vary on who is worse), but the touted replacements (Burnham and Jenirck) have shown how much worse they would be.

    And so we roll on.
    I think it's best to have Kemi, then someone who could do ok in the election. The Tories have had too many leaders recently, and don't need three in one parliament in opposition.

    Anyone taking over now would have to worry they'd be gone before 2029.
    Switching a leader once isn’t even without risk. It could make them look faintly ridiculous again - be a pretty good attack line for other parties at a GE that you’re never sure who you’re going to get as PM.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 26,070
    bobbob said:

    I had a quick read through kemis speech

    “ I can’t remember how to do parallel integration”

    Does anyone know what “parallel integration” is? From context I assume it’s a term from their “Computer Systems Engineering” degree started 2003

    I can’t find anything relevant on google and my tech knowledge from that era is pretty good

    (thinks about answering this question, realises I can't remember how to do it either and gives up. Or she may have meant "partial integration", where you integrate it one variable at a time. I think. Or she may have meant "parallel programming", in which case yes I could do it a quarter of a century ago but not now)
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 6,775

    Longer words aren't always cleverer than shorter ones

    Myself instead of I or me being an obvious example

    How about “me, myself, and I?”
    That's three feet high and rising

    And much better than "myself, myself and myself"
    Mirror, mirror on the wall..

    https://youtu.be/jdtKT5q-CW8

    I love De La Soul
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 26,070
    As you may know, AI slop and YouTube algorithms are killing YouTube channels, to the extent it's become it's own genre. Here is Kurzgesagt pointing this out

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zfN9wnPvU0 "AI Slop Is Killing Our Channel" 13 mins
  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 7,340

    AnneJGP said:

    AnneJGP said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Troubled ONS reveals £2bn borrowing blunder
    HMRC error will boost Rachel Reeves’s hopes of boosting headroom in November Budget [sic]
    ...
    The Office for National Statistics (ONS) said it had been informed by the taxman of an error in data supplied by HMRC that meant cash receipts raised from the sales tax between April and August this year were £2.4bn higher than previously thought.

    The ONS also reduced its estimate for borrowing in the previous financial year by a further £1bn.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/10/08/troubled-ons-reveals-2bn-borrowing-blunder/ (£££)

    Opps, missed £2.4bn. Soz.

    Not very good at math are they.
    MATHS.

    Using math is worthy of exile to ConHome.
    Is it worse than 'coronated' ?
    Coronated is a fine addition to the English language, math is a declaration of war.
    Coronated is fine for shells (conchology) and some architecture

    It's not a good word for having had a crown put on someone
    It works, the language of Shakespeare is strong enough to cope with this evolution.
    Coronated is four syllables. It works much harder than crowned
    We do use coronation rather than crowning.
    Coronation is the entire procedure and celebration, crowning is the act of putting it on the noggin
    Then coronating means putting on or staging the entire procedure, surely? The contexts I've seen it used seem to mean crowning.
    Coronation is a noun, not a verb

    Wedding/marrying
    To wed is the verb
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 40,436
    @SkyYaldaHakim

    🚨BREAKING🚨

    Sources in the region are telling me they are ‘cautiously optimistic’ that a Gaza ceasefire deal is on its way and an initial statement may even come at some point this evening.

    https://x.com/SkyYaldaHakim/status/1976006050823405796
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 68,362
    viewcode said:

    bobbob said:

    I had a quick read through kemis speech

    “ I can’t remember how to do parallel integration”

    Does anyone know what “parallel integration” is? From context I assume it’s a term from their “Computer Systems Engineering” degree started 2003

    I can’t find anything relevant on google and my tech knowledge from that era is pretty good

    (thinks about answering this question, realises I can't remember how to do it either and gives up. Or she may have meant "partial integration", where you integrate it one variable at a time. I think. Or she may have meant "parallel programming", in which case yes I could do it a quarter of a century ago but not now)
    I think she meant parallel numerical integration as in:


    "Like Monte Carlo simulation, numerical integration is pleasingly parallel."

    https://homepages.math.uic.edu/~jan/mcs572f16/mcs572notes/lec13.html
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 14,679

    AnneJGP said:

    AnneJGP said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Troubled ONS reveals £2bn borrowing blunder
    HMRC error will boost Rachel Reeves’s hopes of boosting headroom in November Budget [sic]
    ...
    The Office for National Statistics (ONS) said it had been informed by the taxman of an error in data supplied by HMRC that meant cash receipts raised from the sales tax between April and August this year were £2.4bn higher than previously thought.

    The ONS also reduced its estimate for borrowing in the previous financial year by a further £1bn.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/10/08/troubled-ons-reveals-2bn-borrowing-blunder/ (£££)

    Opps, missed £2.4bn. Soz.

    Not very good at math are they.
    MATHS.

    Using math is worthy of exile to ConHome.
    Is it worse than 'coronated' ?
    Coronated is a fine addition to the English language, math is a declaration of war.
    Coronated is fine for shells (conchology) and some architecture

    It's not a good word for having had a crown put on someone
    It works, the language of Shakespeare is strong enough to cope with this evolution.
    Coronated is four syllables. It works much harder than crowned
    We do use coronation rather than crowning.
    Coronation is the entire procedure and celebration, crowning is the act of putting it on the noggin
    Then coronating means putting on or staging the entire procedure, surely? The contexts I've seen it used seem to mean crowning.
    Coronation is a noun, not a verb

    Wedding/marrying
    To wed is the verb
    True.
    Nuptials/Marrying
    Or people can just not use a shithouse nonsense like 'coronate'
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 68,362
    viewcode said:

    bobbob said:

    I had a quick read through kemis speech

    “ I can’t remember how to do parallel integration”

    Does anyone know what “parallel integration” is? From context I assume it’s a term from their “Computer Systems Engineering” degree started 2003

    I can’t find anything relevant on google and my tech knowledge from that era is pretty good

    (thinks about answering this question, realises I can't remember how to do it either and gives up. Or she may have meant "partial integration", where you integrate it one variable at a time. I think. Or she may have meant "parallel programming", in which case yes I could do it a quarter of a century ago but not now)
    An oddity of the speech at that point was she used this as an illustration of how good apprenticeships are saying she can still remember how to fix a computer after her apprenticeship but has forgotten the engineering degree stuff like "parallel integration".

    Begs the question why she went on to a degree if apprenticeships are so great.

    Also, first i had heard about her doing an apprenticeship.

  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 68,362
    Scott_xP said:
    Harsh.

    But they have to take the medecine.

    How long before the public look at them again seriously? Two years? Four years? A decade? Never?

    No one knows to be honest.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 7,377

    Scott_xP said:
    Harsh.

    But they have to take the medecine.

    How long before the public look at them again seriously? Two years? Four years? A decade? Never?

    No one knows to be honest.
    Starmer proves mere unpopularity of the other party is no good; time must pass.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 14,679
    edited 7:40PM

    Scott_xP said:
    Harsh.

    But they have to take the medecine.

    How long before the public look at them again seriously? Two years? Four years? A decade? Never?

    No one knows to be honest.
    The public looking at them again will be a process not an event. Does the process begin with this conference is the Q
  • StereodogStereodog Posts: 1,181

    Stereodog said:

    Roger said:

    Sean_F said:

    Taz said:

    HYUFD said:

    Sir Lenny Henry wants the British government to pay £18 trillion of reparations to Caribbean nations and Black British people

    "Lenny Henry’s reparations demands won’t end racism. They’ll fuel it like never before" https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/10/08/reparations-wont-end-racism-lenny-henry/

    I love Lenny, used to see him in Nostalgia and Comics in the early eighties reading the DC comics.

    He used to be fab before reinventing himself as a race grifter

    Tell him to GFH
    I enjoyed him in Not the Nine O’Clock News.
    Three of a kind? He wasn't in NTNON
    Tiswas! Back before political correctness stopped Lenny Henry playing White characters like David Bellamy.

    He was also a very good actor later on.
    He does a loads of ads now particularly for Premier Inn so he doesn't really need any other work.

    I had an uncomfortable moment with him a few years ago. I was with three clients having lunch at Grouchos and Henry was having lunch with Dawn French at another table. The female client wanted his autograph for her son so when the waiter came to our order she asked if he would mind asking him for an autograph?

    The waiter said he was sorry but it was strictly forbidden for anyone to ask for autographs in the club.

    She decided she would just go and chance it and ask him herself. She walked over and he said in an ever rising voice. "No you can't. NO NO NO NO. Just Go away......"

    I can't think I've had a more embarrassing lunch anywhere. Ever! I thought I was going to be blackballed! (Though he was right and their privacy rules are well known)

    I had a similarly uncomfortable evening there where somone insisted on telling me how the COVID vaccine was an international mind control conspiracy. Thankfully I managed to palm her off to George Osborne who also happened to be there.
    OMG were we at the same Robey Warshaw dinner party?
    I think it was a member's drinks but it's entirely possible that I crashed the wrong party.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 11,191

    Longer words aren't always cleverer than shorter ones

    Myself instead of I or me being an obvious example

    How about “me, myself, and I?”
    That's three feet high and rising

    And much better than "myself, myself and myself"
    Only 60% cash though
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 5,455
    viewcode said:

    As you may know, AI slop and YouTube algorithms are killing YouTube channels, to the extent it's become it's own genre. Here is Kurzgesagt pointing this out

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zfN9wnPvU0 "AI Slop Is Killing Our Channel" 13 mins

    I was saying to someone earlier today that I'm now seeing more "AI Slop is killing $platform" than I see actual AI slop.

    Then realised how easy it was to script and automate 'AI Slop is killing $platform' content and felt sad.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 5,455
    viewcode said:

    bobbob said:

    I had a quick read through kemis speech

    “ I can’t remember how to do parallel integration”

    Does anyone know what “parallel integration” is? From context I assume it’s a term from their “Computer Systems Engineering” degree started 2003

    I can’t find anything relevant on google and my tech knowledge from that era is pretty good

    (thinks about answering this question, realises I can't remember how to do it either and gives up. Or she may have meant "partial integration", where you integrate it one variable at a time. I think. Or she may have meant "parallel programming", in which case yes I could do it a quarter of a century ago but not now)
    Isn't parallel integration still common? It's very much a thing in my sci/eng neck of the woods.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 32,859
    Kemi's speech - bloody brilliant.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 5,455

    DavidL said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Stephen Fry? Really?

    Thank God: I thought you were telling us he was dead.
    Isn’t that the point of a game of werewolf? The whole point of this show and its ratings is a plot to kill Stephen Fry?

    I for one hope they succeed. I’m rooting for Lucy.

    They are bound to make Niko a traitor.
    In V for Vendetta, Stephen Fry was executed for possessing an antique copy of the Koran.
    Natalie Portman is also bald. Its a silly film.
    Oh any film where Stephen Fry gets executed is ok with me.
    Why do you hate the national treasure that is Stephen Fry?

    He loves his cricket for starters.
    I was listening to his old R4 show "Delve Special" recently. Still very good. The TV version wasn't so good as I remember - but the radio show still works.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 40,436
    @JenniferJJacobs

    TRUMP says he might head to Middle East this weekend. Final negotiation with Hamas "seems to be going well" on Gaza.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 47,702

    viewcode said:

    bobbob said:

    I had a quick read through kemis speech

    “ I can’t remember how to do parallel integration”

    Does anyone know what “parallel integration” is? From context I assume it’s a term from their “Computer Systems Engineering” degree started 2003

    I can’t find anything relevant on google and my tech knowledge from that era is pretty good

    (thinks about answering this question, realises I can't remember how to do it either and gives up. Or she may have meant "partial integration", where you integrate it one variable at a time. I think. Or she may have meant "parallel programming", in which case yes I could do it a quarter of a century ago but not now)
    An oddity of the speech at that point was she used this as an illustration of how good apprenticeships are saying she can still remember how to fix a computer after her apprenticeship but has forgotten the engineering degree stuff like "parallel integration".

    Begs the question why she went on to a degree if apprenticeships are so great.

    Also, first i had heard about her doing an apprenticeship.
    An apprenticeship can be the first step on the ladder; in ye olden days some large companies would encourage bright young lads who had no degree to do one (*). Alternatively, an apprenticeship might encourage a bright young kid that university might be for them.

    Or it could have been a degree apprenticeship, where the apprenticeship directly leads to a degree.

    https://educationhub.blog.gov.uk/2024/02/degree-apprenticeships-how-you-could-get-a-degree-for-free/

    I've no idea which, if any, of these apply to Badenoch.

    (*) There's an anecdote that during WW2, Rolls Royce in Derby got Oxford to grant a young lad they wanted to keep a degree to stop him getting drafted. The lad had never even been to Oxford. No idea about the veracity of the story but it was the way RR apparently did things back in the day.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 5,455
    carnforth said:

    Longer words aren't always cleverer than shorter ones

    Myself instead of I or me being an obvious example

    In one episode of Poirot, a character saying "fictitional" instead of "fictional" is how we find out he's a bounder.
    My favourite Agatha Christie "this is how you know he's a wrong'un" line was "It was his affectation to wear loosely cut country tweeds in his city office."
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 4,187
    So, in the cabinet on the left, who is PM and who is Chancellor? I reckon Fry is Foreign Secretary.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 57,310
    An Australian paper on tax efficiency.

    https://treasury.gov.au/sites/default/files/2019-03/TWP2015-01.pdf

    TL:DR transaction taxes on property sales are really bad, but regular property taxes are really good.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 68,362
    Well, it made me laugh...


    Mervyn Carter
    @Mervyn_Carter

    Let's look on the bright side for #Handsworth.

    I don't know the area well, but I'd guess, if you could choose the time and the route carefully, you could stroll around for ninety minutes, and never see a single Tory.

    https://x.com/Mervyn_Carter/status/1976011371625185440
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 56,167

    Scott_xP said:

    We have a wannabe dictator, making up stuff and threatening people if he doesn't get his own way.

    And Trump is doing some dodgy shit as well

    Not the first time I have been compared to Donald Trump in recent weeks.

    A colleague said I have Donald Trump like subtlety.
    "FAKE NEWS FROM THE CRUMMY CAMBRIDGE LAWYER (A.K.A THE SCHEMING OGLES)!!!"
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 53,504

    Kemi's speech - bloody brilliant.

    As good as Liz Truss?
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 37,932

    Well, it made me laugh...


    Mervyn Carter
    @Mervyn_Carter

    Let's look on the bright side for #Handsworth.

    I don't know the area well, but I'd guess, if you could choose the time and the route carefully, you could stroll around for ninety minutes, and never see a single Tory.

    https://x.com/Mervyn_Carter/status/1976011371625185440

    I won't allow any criticism of the great city of Birmingham on this website.
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 4,187
    Andy_JS said:

    Well, it made me laugh...


    Mervyn Carter
    @Mervyn_Carter

    Let's look on the bright side for #Handsworth.

    I don't know the area well, but I'd guess, if you could choose the time and the route carefully, you could stroll around for ninety minutes, and never see a single Tory.

    https://x.com/Mervyn_Carter/status/1976011371625185440

    I won't allow any criticism of the great city of Birmingham on this website.
    Are you Telly Savalas?
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 23,557
    Just cast my ballot for Bridget.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 56,167
    edited 8:18PM

    Just cast my ballot for Bridget.

    You have good taste!
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 45,773

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Sir Lenny Henry wants the British government to pay £18 trillion of reparations to Caribbean nations and Black British people

    "Lenny Henry’s reparations demands won’t end racism. They’ll fuel it like never before" https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/10/08/reparations-wont-end-racism-lenny-henry/

    I will need a similar amount for how the British Empire treated my antecedents in British India.
    Introduced railways, common law, Westminster style democracy and stopped widows being thrown on funeral pyres?
    Also the Bengal famine and the Jallianwala Bagh massacre which were two crimes against humanity.
    If Wolmar's Railways of the Raj is anything to go by, the investors weren't doing their building and operating with a view solely to the benefit of the Indian population.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 68,362
    Trump now saying that left wing violence is "an epidemic".
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 20,139

    Trump now saying that left wing violence is "an epidemic".

    Isn't the MAGA wisdom therefore that the government should ignore it, because people should be free to choose and it will only take out the weaker members of the herd anyway?
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 68,362

    Kemi's speech - bloody brilliant.

    I just watched it. Was certainly well-delivered and she seemed entirely at ease: a good sign as temperament is incredibly important in a role like that.

    I keep going backwards and forwards with Kemi. She has become leader too early, perhaps fatally so, like Hague. And yet, the talent is there, and maybe a sprinkling of stardust. But the ogre of May 2026 lies in wait. I wish her luck as she could well be a good thing.
    Given that it seems the alternative is Rob Jenrick and his toytown Stephen Miller act then perhaps we should all be rooting for Kemi?
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 7,377
    edited 8:34PM
    Andy_JS said:

    Well, it made me laugh...


    Mervyn Carter
    @Mervyn_Carter

    Let's look on the bright side for #Handsworth.

    I don't know the area well, but I'd guess, if you could choose the time and the route carefully, you could stroll around for ninety minutes, and never see a single Tory.

    https://x.com/Mervyn_Carter/status/1976011371625185440

    I won't allow any criticism of the great city of Birmingham on this website.
    A quick check of Handsworth on Wikipedia tells us Joan Armatrading was born there.

    I went for school concerts as a child, because I had relatives at the Grammar schools there. They didn't let sixth formers out at lunchtime, as they did at the grammar schools in leafier parts of the city. But there was no security required for bus stops. I think there are plenty worse parts of Birmingham, crime-wise.
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 4,187

    Trump now saying that left wing violence is "an epidemic".

    Isn't the MAGA wisdom therefore that the government should ignore it, because people should be free to choose and it will only take out the weaker members of the herd anyway?
    Well, they're certainly not gonna vaccinate their way out of it.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 61,813
    Sandpit said:

    An Australian paper on tax efficiency.

    https://treasury.gov.au/sites/default/files/2019-03/TWP2015-01.pdf

    TL:DR transaction taxes on property sales are really bad, but regular property taxes are really good.

    I haven't read it, but that's exactly what I've been saying for several years 🤣
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 81,870

    Considering how split we think the USA is, here's some polling that shows remarkable cross-party support for Ukraine:

    72% of Dems and 73% of Reps support arming Ukraine and sanctioning Russia;
    71% of Dems and 86% of Reps support additional economic sanctions against Russia;

    https://x.com/OstapYarysh/status/1975958147266126289

    That's good.

    Why did Trump get the GOP to halt all aid for six months, though ? And why did they just play along ?
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 67,798
    Conference season ends and I believe the unexpected happened

    Kemi Badenoch delivered the best speech, rolled out an array of policies, and stamp duty the 'rabbit out of the hat'

    She energised her supporters and have given them something to sell on the doorstep

    And she did what I prayed she would, sent out a positive [conservative] message and barely mentioned Starmer or Farage

    Labour and Farage fell into the trap of hurling insults at each other to the detriment of both

    The added bonus is Jenrick is the biggest loser

    I do not know how the polls will react, but today was a start on the long road to relevance
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 81,870

    Scott_xP said:

    We have a wannabe dictator, making up stuff and threatening people if he doesn't get his own way.

    And Trump is doing some dodgy shit as well

    Not the first time I have been compared to Donald Trump in recent weeks.

    A colleague said I have Donald Trump like subtlety.
    Did they also say taste ?
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 68,362
    Aaron Rupar
    @atrupar
    ·
    18m
    Trump: "They're, like, insurrectionists, they're terrible people. But you really wonder why. Why are they doing it? What are they gaining? Other than they're obviously paid. They're paid a lot of money."

    https://x.com/atrupar/status/1976020480831168791

  • FF43FF43 Posts: 18,293
    edited 8:44PM
    AnneJGP said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Troubled ONS reveals £2bn borrowing blunder
    HMRC error will boost Rachel Reeves’s hopes of boosting headroom in November Budget [sic]
    ...
    The Office for National Statistics (ONS) said it had been informed by the taxman of an error in data supplied by HMRC that meant cash receipts raised from the sales tax between April and August this year were £2.4bn higher than previously thought.

    The ONS also reduced its estimate for borrowing in the previous financial year by a further £1bn.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/10/08/troubled-ons-reveals-2bn-borrowing-blunder/ (£££)

    Opps, missed £2.4bn. Soz.

    Not very good at math are they.
    MATHS.

    Using math is worthy of exile to ConHome.
    Is it worse than 'coronated' ?
    Coronated is a fine addition to the English language, math is a declaration of war.
    Coronated is fine for shells (conchology) and some architecture

    It's not a good word for having had a crown put on someone
    It works, the language of Shakespeare is strong enough to cope with this evolution.
    Coronated is four syllables. It works much harder than crowned
    We do use coronation rather than crowning.
    I would argue crowned and coronated have slightly different meanings. Crowned means someone who has been made king usually with an emphasis on the role and eligibility; coronated means someone who has gone through the ceremony and process of coronation. Of course a coronation is what makes you a king so it comes to the same thing.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 81,870
    This is their big growth idea ?

    Pffft.

    Pubs to stay open until early hours in move to boost UK growth
    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/oct/08/pub-opening-hours-in-england-and-wales-could-be-extended
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 81,870
    Trump called this morning for the jailing of Chicago's mayor Johnson and Gov. Pritzker. Comes hours after he federalized Texas national guard to go into Illinois against Johnson and Pritzker's will.
    https://x.com/samstein/status/1975899881806905429

    This is .... not normal, even for the shithead.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 45,773
    Nigelb said:

    This is their big growth idea ?

    Pffft.

    Pubs to stay open until early hours in move to boost UK growth
    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/oct/08/pub-opening-hours-in-england-and-wales-could-be-extended

    "the plan, which has been drawn up by leaders of the alcohol and hospitality industries"
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 45,773
    FF43 said:

    AnneJGP said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Troubled ONS reveals £2bn borrowing blunder
    HMRC error will boost Rachel Reeves’s hopes of boosting headroom in November Budget [sic]
    ...
    The Office for National Statistics (ONS) said it had been informed by the taxman of an error in data supplied by HMRC that meant cash receipts raised from the sales tax between April and August this year were £2.4bn higher than previously thought.

    The ONS also reduced its estimate for borrowing in the previous financial year by a further £1bn.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/10/08/troubled-ons-reveals-2bn-borrowing-blunder/ (£££)

    Opps, missed £2.4bn. Soz.

    Not very good at math are they.
    MATHS.

    Using math is worthy of exile to ConHome.
    Is it worse than 'coronated' ?
    Coronated is a fine addition to the English language, math is a declaration of war.
    Coronated is fine for shells (conchology) and some architecture

    It's not a good word for having had a crown put on someone
    It works, the language of Shakespeare is strong enough to cope with this evolution.
    Coronated is four syllables. It works much harder than crowned
    We do use coronation rather than crowning.
    I would argue crowned and coronated have slightly different meanings. Crowned means someone who has been made king usually with an emphasis on the role and eligibility; coronated means someone who has gone through the ceremony and process of coronation. Of course a coronation is what makes you a king so it comes to the same thing.
    Don't think so, surely. KCIII became king instantly by a sort of divine right osmosis, apparently, but didn't become coronate till his coronation.
  • Stark_DawningStark_Dawning Posts: 10,502
    Nigelb said:

    This is their big growth idea ?

    Pffft.

    Pubs to stay open until early hours in move to boost UK growth
    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/oct/08/pub-opening-hours-in-england-and-wales-could-be-extended

    Didn't Tone usher in twenty-four hour drinking all those years ago?
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 12,132
    Nigelb said:

    This is their big growth idea ?

    Pffft.

    Pubs to stay open until early hours in move to boost UK growth
    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/oct/08/pub-opening-hours-in-england-and-wales-could-be-extended

    I just found out my favourite Indian restaurant is currently battling a noise complaint from someone who has just bought the flat above. An unlicensed family place with no music. This is not the first time one of my fave spots has had to deal with something like this.

    If I work out who it is there will certainly be some noise. Anyway, my point is that getting our pubs and restaurants buzzing is something we should welcome, particularly as it's part of the economy not under threat from AI. Ditching NIMBY regulation and welcoming such a buzz is really important for this sector.
  • FossFoss Posts: 1,832
    Nigelb said:

    This is their big growth idea ?

    Pffft.

    Pubs to stay open until early hours in move to boost UK growth
    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/oct/08/pub-opening-hours-in-england-and-wales-could-be-extended

    Didn’t we already do this? And isn’t part of the problem is we’re increasing a nation of lightweights who empty out for the 9.30 train home?
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 5,370
    Sandpit said:

    An Australian paper on tax efficiency.

    https://treasury.gov.au/sites/default/files/2019-03/TWP2015-01.pdf

    TL:DR transaction taxes on property sales are really bad, but regular property taxes are really good.

    Thanks for finding that - that answers my question from this morning.

    Skip to pages 53/54 for the pretty graphs. The suggestion is that it really isn't close.


    Reflects quite well on Kemi for picking the right tax to dump first even if it isn't an immediately obvious one.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 23,557

    Sandpit said:

    An Australian paper on tax efficiency.

    https://treasury.gov.au/sites/default/files/2019-03/TWP2015-01.pdf

    TL:DR transaction taxes on property sales are really bad, but regular property taxes are really good.

    Thanks for finding that - that answers my question from this morning.

    Skip to pages 53/54 for the pretty graphs. The suggestion is that it really isn't close.


    Reflects quite well on Kemi for picking the right tax to dump first even if it isn't an immediately obvious one.
    Of course it’s obvious. It primarily benefits wealthy folk in the south east.

    Meanwhile redwallers are targeted for benefit cuts. Workshy, scroungers, layabouts.
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