Can't get LBC in Mid Wales so have 5Live on. The utter drongo on now very, very critical of Davey. He is particularly annoyed that Davey mentioned Farage 30 times and Starmer not once, and that the BBC have given Farage a free ride for the last decade. A young guy, very angry with Davey, who is he?
Drongo is a word I have not heard for a few years.
Common in my youth in Birmingham.
Is it a Brummie word?
Quite possibly bab. Also commonly used in Aussie but I heard it in a time before Neighbours.
"Nasa has said it hopes to send astronauts on a trip around the Moon as soon as February to prepare for landing there as early as 2027.... The Artemis II mission is the second launch of the Artemis programme, whose aim is to land astronauts and eventually establish a long-term presence on the lunar surface."
Cool! I hope it'll be a safe mission.
Well, it's first time out for the life support system. It's never flown in space before.
It's the first time out for this version of the heat shield. The spacecraft will be flying an adjusted trajectory to see if that mitigates the high and uneven erosion of the heat shield on the previous test flight.
There's a whole bunch of other firsts as well.
It'll still be safer than Starship will be for many years...
We shall see
Firstly, there are lots and lots of piccies of SH/SS with damage and exploding.
Secondly, be careful not to give the impression you want a crewed SLS mission to fail, just because you're on Team SS.
Thirdly, I really don't see SS being man-rated for earth landings in the near future. Do you?
It’s nothing to do with teams.
As Charles Carmada said (ex-astronaut, and engineer who specialised in hypersonic heat shielding at NASA) - “Bill Nelson, Pam Melroy and the entire leadership team at NASA should be ashamed”
See also the comments from Ed Pope, whose being doing this kind of stuff for 30 years.
Just twiddling the re-entry a bit and trying again, *with people on board*, is barking.
It’s reminds me of Ares I and the bullshit about SRB safety.
Meanwhile, research from Eurostat and the ONS in the Guardian:
I'm not sure that a UK population of 86m should be considered desirable.
I've seen The Economist in the past argue for 100m and suggest any cultural problems it causes could be solved by English lessons.
...and everybody breathing in and standing on tippy-toe
We're going to be at 72 million by 2032 (if current projections are accurate).
There's room for 100 million - there are 42,680 per sq mile in Tower Hamlets and in my neck of the woods (Newham) it's 25,660 per square mile in Newham while West Devon has 130. The area of West Devon is 448 square miles so to have the same density as Newham it would have a population of 12 million while it has 58,000 so accommodating 100 million wouldn't in theory be a problem.
I'm NOT advocating it - simply there's room.
Bangladesh has 170 million people in a country whose area is not much larger than England.
Though, of couse, Bangladesh is another nation that's likely to be in population decline by 2100.
Meanwhile, research from Eurostat and the ONS in the Guardian:
I'm not sure that a UK population of 86m should be considered desirable.
I've seen The Economist in the past argue for 100m and suggest any cultural problems it causes could be solved by English lessons.
...and everybody breathing in and standing on tippy-toe
We're going to be at 72 million by 2032 (if current projections are accurate).
There's room for 100 million - there are 42,680 per sq mile in Tower Hamlets and in my neck of the woods (Newham) it's 25,660 per square mile in Newham while West Devon has 130. The area of West Devon is 448 square miles so to have the same density as Newham it would have a population of 12 million while it has 58,000 so accommodating 100 million wouldn't in theory be a problem.
I'm NOT advocating it - simply there's room.
Bangladesh has 170 million people in a country whose area is not much larger than England.
Though, of couse, Bangladesh is another nation that's likely to be in population decline by 2100.
Not a chance Labour have added a point. Have they been furiously fiddling with their methodology again?
I dunno. When Goodwin posts a FON poll which has Labour on circa 15% with RefCon on 50% it has to be gold standard, and on every one of the two dozen times it gets posted. Labour or the LDs grab an MoE point and for you right wingers the methodology must be faulty.
Can't get LBC in Mid Wales so have 5Live on. The utter drongo on now very, very critical of Davey. He is particularly annoyed that Davey mentioned Farage 30 times and Starmer not once, and that the BBC have given Farage a free ride for the last decade. A young guy, very angry with Davey, who is he?
Drongo is a word I have not heard for a few years.
Common in my youth in Birmingham.
Is it a Brummie word?
It is originally a glossy black bird, like a small crow. Plenty in the Indian sub-continent - so maybe that's the source of it coming into English useage?
Not a chance Labour have added a point. Have they been furiously fiddling with their methodology again?
I dunno. When Goodwin posts a FON poll which has Labour on circa 15% with RefCon on 50% it has to be gold standard, and on every one of the two dozen times it gets posted. Labour or the LDs grab an MoE point and for you right wingers the methodology must be faulty.
Sems there's a fortune to be made as an administrator for senior Labour figures. None of them can administer their way out a paper bag without "errors".
Ironically Kemi is the best leader they've had since John Major imo. Hopefully she can do something to turn the situation around.
Everything is very flat atm, most likely boost if she gets one this year will come via the Budget and response. Or a currently unseen Reform collapse of any magnitude would benefit them, as would crossover with Labour in a series of polls filtering into the narrative
The question of whether a Tory leader is any good has to be contextual. In the olden days a Tory opposition could hang around being modestly competent and combative, waiting for Labour to screw up so that they could retake their natural position in the universe.
Not now. The test of whether Kemi is any good is whether under her leadership the voter can answer with crisp clarity these important questions:
Are you and your party competent What are your distinctive and unique political beliefs How will you resolve the big political and economic questions
As a Tory voter for 50 years my answers are: No; No idea; No idea.
OT - TBF Trump probably does have a better chance of becoming PM than the apparently permanently befuddled Jacob Rees-Mogg.
You might like to think that but can you see Mr Trump standing as a candidate to be elected MP for Little Puddlesby or somewhere, which is the essential first step?
"Nasa has said it hopes to send astronauts on a trip around the Moon as soon as February to prepare for landing there as early as 2027.... The Artemis II mission is the second launch of the Artemis programme, whose aim is to land astronauts and eventually establish a long-term presence on the lunar surface."
Cool! I hope it'll be a safe mission.
Well, it's first time out for the life support system. It's never flown in space before.
It's the first time out for this version of the heat shield. The spacecraft will be flying an adjusted trajectory to see if that mitigates the high and uneven erosion of the heat shield on the previous test flight.
There's a whole bunch of other firsts as well.
It'll still be safer than Starship will be for many years...
We shall see
Firstly, there are lots and lots of piccies of SH/SS with damage and exploding.
Secondly, be careful not to give the impression you want a crewed SLS mission to fail, just because you're on Team SS.
Thirdly, I really don't see SS being man-rated for earth landings in the near future. Do you?
A way to go yet, but ay least Musk is getting on with it. One of the good things about his other rocket - Falcon is it's done so many missions the crash odds are a statistical reality rather than a computer model extrapolation
Musk is a bit of a hero in terms of his space efforts. He's advancing knowledge at a similar rate to that which NASA did in the 1960s. I think its about the finest commitment to the future of humanity ever made by an individual. In which light I can forgive him for quite a lot.
I wholeheartedly agree. The prior poster further up has an irritatingly childish attitude to Musk and the achievement of his companies.
I admire what SpaceX has done, but SH/SS is nowhere near where Musk promised in terms of time and capability. Tesla has not delivered what it promised wrt self-driving - nowhere near.
And as for Musk himself: there is little positive to be said about him personally. You just need to look at what he said to Tommy's march to see some evidence of that.
I do not have a 'childish' attitude towards Musk. I have an realistic attitude.
To be fair "entrepreneur being optimistic about timelines" is not exactly front page news.
The thing I would be most critical about is just how thin Musk has allowed himself to be spread, and that is impacting all his business decisions. He's got Tesla, SpaceX, Twitter/xAI, politics, the Boring Company, and probably half a dozen other things. His inattention to Tesla has led him to being behind Chinese vendors, while getting far too excited about the Cybertruck (which is now selling less than -not very successful- Ford Lightning).
Of his various ventures, the only one I'm genuinely excited by right now is SpaceX.
Guardian have fact-checked his UN speech, why bother? But then as my client hasn't been awarded any projects recently, I've also just readily agreed to do some entirely futile report.
He's FINALLY seeing that backing Ukraine is his way to land a Nobel Peace Prize...
He's already resolved seven wars since January. Does he really need another to get his Nobel prize?
It's been a busy day today too. He found a cure for autism ( don't consume paracetamol) and London is no longer subject to the Sharia legal system it was this morning.
On more pressing matters, Liverpool Southampton is so far so dreary.
"Nasa has said it hopes to send astronauts on a trip around the Moon as soon as February to prepare for landing there as early as 2027.... The Artemis II mission is the second launch of the Artemis programme, whose aim is to land astronauts and eventually establish a long-term presence on the lunar surface."
Cool! I hope it'll be a safe mission.
Well, it's first time out for the life support system. It's never flown in space before.
It's the first time out for this version of the heat shield. The spacecraft will be flying an adjusted trajectory to see if that mitigates the high and uneven erosion of the heat shield on the previous test flight.
There's a whole bunch of other firsts as well.
It'll still be safer than Starship will be for many years...
We shall see
Firstly, there are lots and lots of piccies of SH/SS with damage and exploding.
Secondly, be careful not to give the impression you want a crewed SLS mission to fail, just because you're on Team SS.
Thirdly, I really don't see SS being man-rated for earth landings in the near future. Do you?
A way to go yet, but ay least Musk is getting on with it. One of the good things about his other rocket - Falcon is it's done so many missions the crash odds are a statistical reality rather than a computer model extrapolation
Musk is a bit of a hero in terms of his space efforts. He's advancing knowledge at a similar rate to that which NASA did in the 1960s. I think its about the finest commitment to the future of humanity ever made by an individual. In which light I can forgive him for quite a lot.
I wholeheartedly agree. The prior poster further up has an irritatingly childish attitude to Musk and the achievement of his companies.
I admire what SpaceX has done, but SH/SS is nowhere near where Musk promised in terms of time and capability. Tesla has not delivered what it promised wrt self-driving - nowhere near.
And as for Musk himself: there is little positive to be said about him personally. You just need to look at what he said to Tommy's march to see some evidence of that.
I do not have a 'childish' attitude towards Musk. I have an realistic attitude.
To be fair "entrepreneur being optimistic about timelines" is not exactly front page news.
The thing I would be most critical about is just how thin Musk has allowed himself to be spread, and that is impacting all his business decisions. He's got Tesla, SpaceX, Twitter/xAI, politics, the Boring Company, and probably half a dozen other things. His inattention to Tesla has led him to being behind Chinese vendors, while getting far too excited about the Cybertruck (which is now selling less than -not very successful- Ford Lightning).
Of his various ventures, the only one I'm genuinely excited by right now is SpaceX.
I remain extremely doubtful about the possibility of a human mission to Mars which both arrives on Mars and successfully returns to Earth. As I understand it the intention is to do this by 2030s. I don't think so.
He's FINALLY seeing that backing Ukraine is his way to land a Nobel Peace Prize...
Or alternatively, he's doing what he's always done and saying whatever he thinks the audience he's trying to pitch to wants to hear.
Are you sure he is that sophisticated? Just seemed like 56 minutes of rambling old bollocks to me.
Interestingly on R4 PM the 56 minute speech was condensed down to a few incredibly impressive minutes. The edit was so good Trump sounded very credible. Evan and his guests then earnestly discussed the contents of the edit.
Attorney General Pam Bondi’s chief of staff, Chad Mizelle, is leaving the Justice Department, the attorney general and her deputy confirmed in statements provided to CNN.
"Nasa has said it hopes to send astronauts on a trip around the Moon as soon as February to prepare for landing there as early as 2027.... The Artemis II mission is the second launch of the Artemis programme, whose aim is to land astronauts and eventually establish a long-term presence on the lunar surface."
Cool! I hope it'll be a safe mission.
Well, it's first time out for the life support system. It's never flown in space before.
It's the first time out for this version of the heat shield. The spacecraft will be flying an adjusted trajectory to see if that mitigates the high and uneven erosion of the heat shield on the previous test flight.
There's a whole bunch of other firsts as well.
It'll still be safer than Starship will be for many years...
We shall see
Firstly, there are lots and lots of piccies of SH/SS with damage and exploding.
Secondly, be careful not to give the impression you want a crewed SLS mission to fail, just because you're on Team SS.
Thirdly, I really don't see SS being man-rated for earth landings in the near future. Do you?
A way to go yet, but ay least Musk is getting on with it. One of the good things about his other rocket - Falcon is it's done so many missions the crash odds are a statistical reality rather than a computer model extrapolation
Musk is a bit of a hero in terms of his space efforts. He's advancing knowledge at a similar rate to that which NASA did in the 1960s. I think its about the finest commitment to the future of humanity ever made by an individual. In which light I can forgive him for quite a lot.
I wholeheartedly agree. The prior poster further up has an irritatingly childish attitude to Musk and the achievement of his companies.
I admire what SpaceX has done, but SH/SS is nowhere near where Musk promised in terms of time and capability. Tesla has not delivered what it promised wrt self-driving - nowhere near.
And as for Musk himself: there is little positive to be said about him personally. You just need to look at what he said to Tommy's march to see some evidence of that.
I do not have a 'childish' attitude towards Musk. I have an realistic attitude.
To be fair "entrepreneur being optimistic about timelines" is not exactly front page news.
The thing I would be most critical about is just how thin Musk has allowed himself to be spread, and that is impacting all his business decisions. He's got Tesla, SpaceX, Twitter/xAI, politics, the Boring Company, and probably half a dozen other things. His inattention to Tesla has led him to being behind Chinese vendors, while getting far too excited about the Cybertruck (which is now selling less than -not very successful- Ford Lightning).
Of his various ventures, the only one I'm genuinely excited by right now is SpaceX.
Indeed, that's fair from a business POV.
I've always been *exceptionally* bearish about The Boring Company, and I feel like my scepticism has been well-rewarded.
But I would quibble about optimistic timelines. The world has changed over the last two or three decades. Tesla has a massive technical debt with FSD that it has not yet filled, and which people have paid vast amounts of money for. Then there's the Roadster 2. Announced 14 years ago, with deposits being taken in 2017, when it was due for release in 2020. Five years later, and it is nowhere to be seen. They have taken many thousands of $50,000 deposits for something that is now many years late.
There comes a time when that is no longer an entrepreneur being optimistic, and it becomes fraud.
He's FINALLY seeing that backing Ukraine is his way to land a Nobel Peace Prize...
Or alternatively, he's doing what he's always done and saying whatever he thinks the audience he's trying to pitch to wants to hear.
Are you sure he is that sophisticated? Just seemed like 56 minutes of rambling old bollocks to me.
Interestingly on R4 PM the 56 minute speech was condensed down to a few incredibly impressive minutes. The edit was so good Trump sounded very credible. Evan and his guests then earnestly discussed the contents of the edit.
The BBC have really jumped the Trump/Reform shark. I can’t figure out whether they have a hidden agenda or a death wish.
Ive been entertaining myself with the shortest first class steps from Jimmy Anderson to WG Grace in first class cricket so im going to bore you with it
Jimmy played with Alec Stewart Who played with and against Ian Botham who played with Brian Close (Somerset 1976) who played against Bob Wyatt (MCC vs Yorkshire 1949) who played with Wilfred Rhodes (Gower xi vs touring Australians 1930) who's first test was WG Graces last test
I think that's the shortest route between the Goats
Ive been entertaining myself with the shortest first class steps from Jimmy Anderson to WG Grace in first class cricket so im going to bore you with it
Jimmy played with Alec Stewart Who played with and against Ian Botham who played with Brian Close (Somerset 1976) who played against Bob Wyatt (MCC vs Yorkshire 1949) who played with Wilfred Rhodes (Gower xi vs touring Australians 1930) who's first test was WG Graces last test
I think that's the shortest route between the Goats
Ive been entertaining myself with the shortest first class steps from Jimmy Anderson to WG Grace in first class cricket so im going to bore you with it
Jimmy played with Alec Stewart Who played with and against Ian Botham who played with Brian Close (Somerset 1976) who played against Bob Wyatt (MCC vs Yorkshire 1949) who played with Wilfred Rhodes (Gower xi vs touring Australians 1930) who's first test was WG Graces last test
I think that's the shortest route between the Goats
"Nasa has said it hopes to send astronauts on a trip around the Moon as soon as February to prepare for landing there as early as 2027.... The Artemis II mission is the second launch of the Artemis programme, whose aim is to land astronauts and eventually establish a long-term presence on the lunar surface."
Cool! I hope it'll be a safe mission.
Well, it's first time out for the life support system. It's never flown in space before.
It's the first time out for this version of the heat shield. The spacecraft will be flying an adjusted trajectory to see if that mitigates the high and uneven erosion of the heat shield on the previous test flight.
There's a whole bunch of other firsts as well.
It'll still be safer than Starship will be for many years...
We shall see
Firstly, there are lots and lots of piccies of SH/SS with damage and exploding.
Secondly, be careful not to give the impression you want a crewed SLS mission to fail, just because you're on Team SS.
Thirdly, I really don't see SS being man-rated for earth landings in the near future. Do you?
A way to go yet, but ay least Musk is getting on with it. One of the good things about his other rocket - Falcon is it's done so many missions the crash odds are a statistical reality rather than a computer model extrapolation
Musk is a bit of a hero in terms of his space efforts. He's advancing knowledge at a similar rate to that which NASA did in the 1960s. I think its about the finest commitment to the future of humanity ever made by an individual. In which light I can forgive him for quite a lot.
I wholeheartedly agree. The prior poster further up has an irritatingly childish attitude to Musk and the achievement of his companies.
I admire what SpaceX has done, but SH/SS is nowhere near where Musk promised in terms of time and capability. Tesla has not delivered what it promised wrt self-driving - nowhere near.
And as for Musk himself: there is little positive to be said about him personally. You just need to look at what he said to Tommy's march to see some evidence of that.
I do not have a 'childish' attitude towards Musk. I have an realistic attitude.
To be fair "entrepreneur being optimistic about timelines" is not exactly front page news.
The thing I would be most critical about is just how thin Musk has allowed himself to be spread, and that is impacting all his business decisions. He's got Tesla, SpaceX, Twitter/xAI, politics, the Boring Company, and probably half a dozen other things. His inattention to Tesla has led him to being behind Chinese vendors, while getting far too excited about the Cybertruck (which is now selling less than -not very successful- Ford Lightning).
Of his various ventures, the only one I'm genuinely excited by right now is SpaceX.
I remain extremely doubtful about the possibility of a human mission to Mars which both arrives on Mars and successfully returns to Earth. As I understand it the intention is to do this by 2030s. I don't think so.
Perhaps if the AI project turbo-charges the SpaceX development soon, it might be feasible. I'd be quite disappointed if the venture wasn't the result of human ingenuity, though.
Ive been entertaining myself with the shortest first class steps from Jimmy Anderson to WG Grace in first class cricket so im going to bore you with it
Jimmy played with Alec Stewart Who played with and against Ian Botham who played with Brian Close (Somerset 1976) who played against Bob Wyatt (MCC vs Yorkshire 1949) who played with Wilfred Rhodes (Gower xi vs touring Australians 1930) who's first test was WG Graces last test
I think that's the shortest route between the Goats
Ive been entertaining myself with the shortest first class steps from Jimmy Anderson to WG Grace in first class cricket so im going to bore you with it
Jimmy played with Alec Stewart Who played with and against Ian Botham who played with Brian Close (Somerset 1976) who played against Bob Wyatt (MCC vs Yorkshire 1949) who played with Wilfred Rhodes (Gower xi vs touring Australians 1930) who's first test was WG Graces last test
I think that's the shortest route between the Goats
Thanks for this, I've been thinking about doing something similar myself for a while. Lucky that Anderson and Stewart just managed to overlap with each other.
Another interesting cricket fact imo is that the only England player who played in the 80s, 90s and noughties is Mike Atherton.
"Nasa has said it hopes to send astronauts on a trip around the Moon as soon as February to prepare for landing there as early as 2027.... The Artemis II mission is the second launch of the Artemis programme, whose aim is to land astronauts and eventually establish a long-term presence on the lunar surface."
Cool! I hope it'll be a safe mission.
Well, it's first time out for the life support system. It's never flown in space before.
It's the first time out for this version of the heat shield. The spacecraft will be flying an adjusted trajectory to see if that mitigates the high and uneven erosion of the heat shield on the previous test flight.
There's a whole bunch of other firsts as well.
It'll still be safer than Starship will be for many years...
We shall see
Firstly, there are lots and lots of piccies of SH/SS with damage and exploding.
Secondly, be careful not to give the impression you want a crewed SLS mission to fail, just because you're on Team SS.
Thirdly, I really don't see SS being man-rated for earth landings in the near future. Do you?
A way to go yet, but ay least Musk is getting on with it. One of the good things about his other rocket - Falcon is it's done so many missions the crash odds are a statistical reality rather than a computer model extrapolation
Musk is a bit of a hero in terms of his space efforts. He's advancing knowledge at a similar rate to that which NASA did in the 1960s. I think its about the finest commitment to the future of humanity ever made by an individual. In which light I can forgive him for quite a lot.
I wholeheartedly agree. The prior poster further up has an irritatingly childish attitude to Musk and the achievement of his companies.
I admire what SpaceX has done, but SH/SS is nowhere near where Musk promised in terms of time and capability. Tesla has not delivered what it promised wrt self-driving - nowhere near.
And as for Musk himself: there is little positive to be said about him personally. You just need to look at what he said to Tommy's march to see some evidence of that.
I do not have a 'childish' attitude towards Musk. I have an realistic attitude.
To be fair "entrepreneur being optimistic about timelines" is not exactly front page news.
The thing I would be most critical about is just how thin Musk has allowed himself to be spread, and that is impacting all his business decisions. He's got Tesla, SpaceX, Twitter/xAI, politics, the Boring Company, and probably half a dozen other things. His inattention to Tesla has led him to being behind Chinese vendors, while getting far too excited about the Cybertruck (which is now selling less than -not very successful- Ford Lightning).
Of his various ventures, the only one I'm genuinely excited by right now is SpaceX.
I remain extremely doubtful about the possibility of a human mission to Mars which both arrives on Mars and successfully returns to Earth. As I understand it the intention is to do this by 2030s. I don't think so.
Mars to stay is more feasible with any return infrastructure having to be built by the colonists so the first return journey might be 5 years to a decade after settlement
Ive been entertaining myself with the shortest first class steps from Jimmy Anderson to WG Grace in first class cricket so im going to bore you with it
Jimmy played with Alec Stewart Who played with and against Ian Botham who played with Brian Close (Somerset 1976) who played against Bob Wyatt (MCC vs Yorkshire 1949) who played with Wilfred Rhodes (Gower xi vs touring Australians 1930) who's first test was WG Graces last test
I think that's the shortest route between the Goats
It might be possible to shorten it to five if you can bring in Geoffrey Boycott, simply because he played for such a long time.
Ive been entertaining myself with the shortest first class steps from Jimmy Anderson to WG Grace in first class cricket so im going to bore you with it
Jimmy played with Alec Stewart Who played with and against Ian Botham who played with Brian Close (Somerset 1976) who played against Bob Wyatt (MCC vs Yorkshire 1949) who played with Wilfred Rhodes (Gower xi vs touring Australians 1930) who's first test was WG Graces last test
I think that's the shortest route between the Goats
Ive been entertaining myself with the shortest first class steps from Jimmy Anderson to WG Grace in first class cricket so im going to bore you with it
Jimmy played with Alec Stewart Who played with and against Ian Botham who played with Brian Close (Somerset 1976) who played against Bob Wyatt (MCC vs Yorkshire 1949) who played with Wilfred Rhodes (Gower xi vs touring Australians 1930) who's first test was WG Graces last test
I think that's the shortest route between the Goats
When posters get double figure likes for posts like "Starmer is a w@nker" or "my dog got run over by a Ferrari this morning" your post deserves to go down in PB folklore history for its research and ingenuity.
Ive been entertaining myself with the shortest first class steps from Jimmy Anderson to WG Grace in first class cricket so im going to bore you with it
Jimmy played with Alec Stewart Who played with and against Ian Botham who played with Brian Close (Somerset 1976) who played against Bob Wyatt (MCC vs Yorkshire 1949) who played with Wilfred Rhodes (Gower xi vs touring Australians 1930) who's first test was WG Graces last test
I think that's the shortest route between the Goats
Impressive. Much easier but still thought provoking is the simple overlap of lives, just because people live long. Those in their late 90s now were alive when Thomas Hardy was alive. When Thomas Hardy was young, Wordsworth was still alive. And so on.
Ive been entertaining myself with the shortest first class steps from Jimmy Anderson to WG Grace in first class cricket so im going to bore you with it
Jimmy played with Alec Stewart Who played with and against Ian Botham who played with Brian Close (Somerset 1976) who played against Bob Wyatt (MCC vs Yorkshire 1949) who played with Wilfred Rhodes (Gower xi vs touring Australians 1930) who's first test was WG Graces last test
I think that's the shortest route between the Goats
Thanks for this, I've been thinking about doing something similar myself for a while. Lucky that Anderson and Stewart just managed to overlap with each other.
Another interesting cricket fact imo is that the only England player who played in the 80s, 90s and noughties is Mike Atherton.
Yes Stewart and Hussein both debuted in Feb 1990 just missing the 80s Brian Close is a massive bridge and lucky that Wyatt went on post war. Gubby Allen also did but missed the Yorkshire game in 1949 so never played Close. Grace and Rhodes coinciding in retirement and debut is a lovely cricket wrinkle
"Nasa has said it hopes to send astronauts on a trip around the Moon as soon as February to prepare for landing there as early as 2027.... The Artemis II mission is the second launch of the Artemis programme, whose aim is to land astronauts and eventually establish a long-term presence on the lunar surface."
Cool! I hope it'll be a safe mission.
Well, it's first time out for the life support system. It's never flown in space before.
It's the first time out for this version of the heat shield. The spacecraft will be flying an adjusted trajectory to see if that mitigates the high and uneven erosion of the heat shield on the previous test flight.
There's a whole bunch of other firsts as well.
It'll still be safer than Starship will be for many years...
We shall see
Firstly, there are lots and lots of piccies of SH/SS with damage and exploding.
Secondly, be careful not to give the impression you want a crewed SLS mission to fail, just because you're on Team SS.
Thirdly, I really don't see SS being man-rated for earth landings in the near future. Do you?
A way to go yet, but ay least Musk is getting on with it. One of the good things about his other rocket - Falcon is it's done so many missions the crash odds are a statistical reality rather than a computer model extrapolation
Musk is a bit of a hero in terms of his space efforts. He's advancing knowledge at a similar rate to that which NASA did in the 1960s. I think its about the finest commitment to the future of humanity ever made by an individual. In which light I can forgive him for quite a lot.
I wholeheartedly agree. The prior poster further up has an irritatingly childish attitude to Musk and the achievement of his companies.
I admire what SpaceX has done, but SH/SS is nowhere near where Musk promised in terms of time and capability. Tesla has not delivered what it promised wrt self-driving - nowhere near.
And as for Musk himself: there is little positive to be said about him personally. You just need to look at what he said to Tommy's march to see some evidence of that.
I do not have a 'childish' attitude towards Musk. I have an realistic attitude.
To be fair "entrepreneur being optimistic about timelines" is not exactly front page news.
The thing I would be most critical about is just how thin Musk has allowed himself to be spread, and that is impacting all his business decisions. He's got Tesla, SpaceX, Twitter/xAI, politics, the Boring Company, and probably half a dozen other things. His inattention to Tesla has led him to being behind Chinese vendors, while getting far too excited about the Cybertruck (which is now selling less than -not very successful- Ford Lightning).
Of his various ventures, the only one I'm genuinely excited by right now is SpaceX.
I remain extremely doubtful about the possibility of a human mission to Mars which both arrives on Mars and successfully returns to Earth. As I understand it the intention is to do this by 2030s. I don't think so.
Mars to stay is more feasible with any return infrastructure having to be built by the colonists so the first return journey might be 5 years to a decade after settlement
Ive been entertaining myself with the shortest first class steps from Jimmy Anderson to WG Grace in first class cricket so im going to bore you with it
Jimmy played with Alec Stewart Who played with and against Ian Botham who played with Brian Close (Somerset 1976) who played against Bob Wyatt (MCC vs Yorkshire 1949) who played with Wilfred Rhodes (Gower xi vs touring Australians 1930) who's first test was WG Graces last test
I think that's the shortest route between the Goats
When posters get double figure likes for posts like "Starmer is a w@nker" or "my dog got run over by a Ferrari this morning" your post deserves to go down in PB folklore history for its research and ingenuity.
Ive been entertaining myself with the shortest first class steps from Jimmy Anderson to WG Grace in first class cricket so im going to bore you with it
Jimmy played with Alec Stewart Who played with and against Ian Botham who played with Brian Close (Somerset 1976) who played against Bob Wyatt (MCC vs Yorkshire 1949) who played with Wilfred Rhodes (Gower xi vs touring Australians 1930) who's first test was WG Graces last test
I think that's the shortest route between the Goats
Impressive. Much easier but still thought provoking is the simple overlap of lives, just because people live long. Those in their late 90s now were alive when Thomas Hardy was alive. When Thomas Hardy was young, Wordsworth was still alive. And so on.
On a similar startling note, from today back to my birthday is a longer time frame than my birthday to Queen Victoria's reign- just!
Ive been entertaining myself with the shortest first class steps from Jimmy Anderson to WG Grace in first class cricket so im going to bore you with it
Jimmy played with Alec Stewart Who played with and against Ian Botham who played with Brian Close (Somerset 1976) who played against Bob Wyatt (MCC vs Yorkshire 1949) who played with Wilfred Rhodes (Gower xi vs touring Australians 1930) who's first test was WG Graces last test
I think that's the shortest route between the Goats
Impressive. Much easier but still thought provoking is the simple overlap of lives, just because people live long. Those in their late 90s now were alive when Thomas Hardy was alive. When Thomas Hardy was young, Wordsworth was still alive. And so on.
I've been a bit staggered this year to think that it's 200 years since the first 'proper' railway (*) opened, and I have been alive for over a quarter of that time.
(*) Depending on the definition of what a 'railway' is. Please let's not go there...
Been busy for a few hours and miss a Trump as PM post. Appreciate @TSE rightly associating the fascist with the shire - better than that other golf course elsewhere.
Time to fight the slide towards Trump-style fascism. Well said Ed Davey.
Ive been entertaining myself with the shortest first class steps from Jimmy Anderson to WG Grace in first class cricket so im going to bore you with it
Jimmy played with Alec Stewart Who played with and against Ian Botham who played with Brian Close (Somerset 1976) who played against Bob Wyatt (MCC vs Yorkshire 1949) who played with Wilfred Rhodes (Gower xi vs touring Australians 1930) who's first test was WG Graces last test
I think that's the shortest route between the Goats
Impressive. Much easier but still thought provoking is the simple overlap of lives, just because people live long. Those in their late 90s now were alive when Thomas Hardy was alive. When Thomas Hardy was young, Wordsworth was still alive. And so on.
I love these sorts of things. Like the 1950 US game show with the civil war veteran taking part
"Nasa has said it hopes to send astronauts on a trip around the Moon as soon as February to prepare for landing there as early as 2027.... The Artemis II mission is the second launch of the Artemis programme, whose aim is to land astronauts and eventually establish a long-term presence on the lunar surface."
Cool! I hope it'll be a safe mission.
Well, it's first time out for the life support system. It's never flown in space before.
It's the first time out for this version of the heat shield. The spacecraft will be flying an adjusted trajectory to see if that mitigates the high and uneven erosion of the heat shield on the previous test flight.
There's a whole bunch of other firsts as well.
It'll still be safer than Starship will be for many years...
We shall see
Firstly, there are lots and lots of piccies of SH/SS with damage and exploding.
Secondly, be careful not to give the impression you want a crewed SLS mission to fail, just because you're on Team SS.
Thirdly, I really don't see SS being man-rated for earth landings in the near future. Do you?
A way to go yet, but ay least Musk is getting on with it. One of the good things about his other rocket - Falcon is it's done so many missions the crash odds are a statistical reality rather than a computer model extrapolation
Musk is a bit of a hero in terms of his space efforts. He's advancing knowledge at a similar rate to that which NASA did in the 1960s. I think its about the finest commitment to the future of humanity ever made by an individual. In which light I can forgive him for quite a lot.
I wholeheartedly agree. The prior poster further up has an irritatingly childish attitude to Musk and the achievement of his companies.
I admire what SpaceX has done, but SH/SS is nowhere near where Musk promised in terms of time and capability. Tesla has not delivered what it promised wrt self-driving - nowhere near.
And as for Musk himself: there is little positive to be said about him personally. You just need to look at what he said to Tommy's march to see some evidence of that.
I do not have a 'childish' attitude towards Musk. I have an realistic attitude.
To be fair "entrepreneur being optimistic about timelines" is not exactly front page news.
The thing I would be most critical about is just how thin Musk has allowed himself to be spread, and that is impacting all his business decisions. He's got Tesla, SpaceX, Twitter/xAI, politics, the Boring Company, and probably half a dozen other things. His inattention to Tesla has led him to being behind Chinese vendors, while getting far too excited about the Cybertruck (which is now selling less than -not very successful- Ford Lightning).
Of his various ventures, the only one I'm genuinely excited by right now is SpaceX.
I remain extremely doubtful about the possibility of a human mission to Mars which both arrives on Mars and successfully returns to Earth. As I understand it the intention is to do this by 2030s. I don't think so.
Mars to stay is more feasible with any return infrastructure having to be built by the colonists so the first return journey might be 5 years to a decade after settlement
Meanwhile, research from Eurostat and the ONS in the Guardian:
I'm not sure that a UK population of 86m should be considered desirable.
I've seen The Economist in the past argue for 100m and suggest any cultural problems it causes could be solved by English lessons.
...and everybody breathing in and standing on tippy-toe
We're going to be at 72 million by 2032 (if current projections are accurate).
There's room for 100 million - there are 42,680 per sq mile in Tower Hamlets and in my neck of the woods (Newham) it's 25,660 per square mile in Newham while West Devon has 130. The area of West Devon is 448 square miles so to have the same density as Newham it would have a population of 12 million while it has 58,000 so accommodating 100 million wouldn't in theory be a problem.
I'm NOT advocating it - simply there's room.
Bangladesh has 170 million people in a country whose area is not much larger than England.
He's FINALLY seeing that backing Ukraine is his way to land a Nobel Peace Prize...
Or alternatively, he's doing what he's always done and saying whatever he thinks the audience he's trying to pitch to wants to hear.
Are you sure he is that sophisticated? Just seemed like 56 minutes of rambling old bollocks to me.
Interestingly on R4 PM the 56 minute speech was condensed down to a few incredibly impressive minutes. The edit was so good Trump sounded very credible. Evan and his guests then earnestly discussed the contents of the edit.
The BBC have really jumped the Trump/Reform shark. I can’t figure out whether they have a hidden agenda or a death wish.
It's the latter.
Desperate to be "relevant" they are front loading and promoting the very people who will end them.
"Nasa has said it hopes to send astronauts on a trip around the Moon as soon as February to prepare for landing there as early as 2027.... The Artemis II mission is the second launch of the Artemis programme, whose aim is to land astronauts and eventually establish a long-term presence on the lunar surface."
Cool! I hope it'll be a safe mission.
Well, it's first time out for the life support system. It's never flown in space before.
It's the first time out for this version of the heat shield. The spacecraft will be flying an adjusted trajectory to see if that mitigates the high and uneven erosion of the heat shield on the previous test flight.
There's a whole bunch of other firsts as well.
It'll still be safer than Starship will be for many years...
We shall see
Firstly, there are lots and lots of piccies of SH/SS with damage and exploding.
Secondly, be careful not to give the impression you want a crewed SLS mission to fail, just because you're on Team SS.
Thirdly, I really don't see SS being man-rated for earth landings in the near future. Do you?
A way to go yet, but ay least Musk is getting on with it. One of the good things about his other rocket - Falcon is it's done so many missions the crash odds are a statistical reality rather than a computer model extrapolation
Musk is a bit of a hero in terms of his space efforts. He's advancing knowledge at a similar rate to that which NASA did in the 1960s. I think its about the finest commitment to the future of humanity ever made by an individual. In which light I can forgive him for quite a lot.
I wholeheartedly agree. The prior poster further up has an irritatingly childish attitude to Musk and the achievement of his companies.
I admire what SpaceX has done, but SH/SS is nowhere near where Musk promised in terms of time and capability. Tesla has not delivered what it promised wrt self-driving - nowhere near.
And as for Musk himself: there is little positive to be said about him personally. You just need to look at what he said to Tommy's march to see some evidence of that.
I do not have a 'childish' attitude towards Musk. I have an realistic attitude.
To be fair "entrepreneur being optimistic about timelines" is not exactly front page news.
The thing I would be most critical about is just how thin Musk has allowed himself to be spread, and that is impacting all his business decisions. He's got Tesla, SpaceX, Twitter/xAI, politics, the Boring Company, and probably half a dozen other things. His inattention to Tesla has led him to being behind Chinese vendors, while getting far too excited about the Cybertruck (which is now selling less than -not very successful- Ford Lightning).
Of his various ventures, the only one I'm genuinely excited by right now is SpaceX.
I remain extremely doubtful about the possibility of a human mission to Mars which both arrives on Mars and successfully returns to Earth. As I understand it the intention is to do this by 2030s. I don't think so.
Perhaps if the AI project turbo-charges the SpaceX development soon, it might be feasible. I'd be quite disappointed if the venture wasn't the result of human ingenuity, though.
If it's human ingenuity that created the rockets, the metals, fuel, the maths, the computers, and then the AI to get us there - I think - overall - it's a net win for human ingenuity.
Been busy for a few hours and miss a Trump as PM post. Appreciate @TSE rightly associating the fascist with the shire - better than that other golf course elsewhere.
Time to fight the slide towards Trump-style fascism. Well said Ed Davey.
Davey, who am undecided as to whether he is the greatest statesman alive or a bit of a plonker, absolutely nailed Farage to the Trump-Putin axis of evil for all to see. Hats off for that at least.
"Nasa has said it hopes to send astronauts on a trip around the Moon as soon as February to prepare for landing there as early as 2027.... The Artemis II mission is the second launch of the Artemis programme, whose aim is to land astronauts and eventually establish a long-term presence on the lunar surface."
Cool! I hope it'll be a safe mission.
Well, it's first time out for the life support system. It's never flown in space before.
It's the first time out for this version of the heat shield. The spacecraft will be flying an adjusted trajectory to see if that mitigates the high and uneven erosion of the heat shield on the previous test flight.
There's a whole bunch of other firsts as well.
It'll still be safer than Starship will be for many years...
We shall see
Firstly, there are lots and lots of piccies of SH/SS with damage and exploding.
Secondly, be careful not to give the impression you want a crewed SLS mission to fail, just because you're on Team SS.
Thirdly, I really don't see SS being man-rated for earth landings in the near future. Do you?
A way to go yet, but ay least Musk is getting on with it. One of the good things about his other rocket - Falcon is it's done so many missions the crash odds are a statistical reality rather than a computer model extrapolation
Musk is a bit of a hero in terms of his space efforts. He's advancing knowledge at a similar rate to that which NASA did in the 1960s. I think its about the finest commitment to the future of humanity ever made by an individual. In which light I can forgive him for quite a lot.
I wholeheartedly agree. The prior poster further up has an irritatingly childish attitude to Musk and the achievement of his companies.
I admire what SpaceX has done, but SH/SS is nowhere near where Musk promised in terms of time and capability. Tesla has not delivered what it promised wrt self-driving - nowhere near.
And as for Musk himself: there is little positive to be said about him personally. You just need to look at what he said to Tommy's march to see some evidence of that.
I do not have a 'childish' attitude towards Musk. I have an realistic attitude.
To be fair "entrepreneur being optimistic about timelines" is not exactly front page news.
The thing I would be most critical about is just how thin Musk has allowed himself to be spread, and that is impacting all his business decisions. He's got Tesla, SpaceX, Twitter/xAI, politics, the Boring Company, and probably half a dozen other things. His inattention to Tesla has led him to being behind Chinese vendors, while getting far too excited about the Cybertruck (which is now selling less than -not very successful- Ford Lightning).
Of his various ventures, the only one I'm genuinely excited by right now is SpaceX.
I remain extremely doubtful about the possibility of a human mission to Mars which both arrives on Mars and successfully returns to Earth. As I understand it the intention is to do this by 2030s. I don't think so.
Mars to stay is more feasible with any return infrastructure having to be built by the colonists so the first return journey might be 5 years to a decade after settlement
So... 5 years to a decade after they die?
No reason they should die, the habitats and provisions would have been sent in previous launch windows
He's FINALLY seeing that backing Ukraine is his way to land a Nobel Peace Prize...
He's already resolved seven wars since January. Does he really need another to get his Nobel prize?
It's been a busy day today too. He found a cure for autism ( don't consume paracetamol) and London is no longer subject to the Sharia legal system it was this morning.
On more pressing matters, Liverpool Southampton is so far so dreary.
I'm more into the BBC fact check noting a prior social media rumour (which I missed at the time) that London was going going to introduce Shakira law. Now, that I could support.
In fact, Shakira's hips for president - they don't lie.
BREAKING: former Tennessee house speaker Glen Casada has been sentenced to three years in federal prison, one year of probation and a $30,000 fine for his role in a kickback scheme.
"Nasa has said it hopes to send astronauts on a trip around the Moon as soon as February to prepare for landing there as early as 2027.... The Artemis II mission is the second launch of the Artemis programme, whose aim is to land astronauts and eventually establish a long-term presence on the lunar surface."
Cool! I hope it'll be a safe mission.
Well, it's first time out for the life support system. It's never flown in space before.
It's the first time out for this version of the heat shield. The spacecraft will be flying an adjusted trajectory to see if that mitigates the high and uneven erosion of the heat shield on the previous test flight.
There's a whole bunch of other firsts as well.
It'll still be safer than Starship will be for many years...
We shall see
Firstly, there are lots and lots of piccies of SH/SS with damage and exploding.
Secondly, be careful not to give the impression you want a crewed SLS mission to fail, just because you're on Team SS.
Thirdly, I really don't see SS being man-rated for earth landings in the near future. Do you?
A way to go yet, but ay least Musk is getting on with it. One of the good things about his other rocket - Falcon is it's done so many missions the crash odds are a statistical reality rather than a computer model extrapolation
Musk is a bit of a hero in terms of his space efforts. He's advancing knowledge at a similar rate to that which NASA did in the 1960s. I think its about the finest commitment to the future of humanity ever made by an individual. In which light I can forgive him for quite a lot.
I wholeheartedly agree. The prior poster further up has an irritatingly childish attitude to Musk and the achievement of his companies.
I admire what SpaceX has done, but SH/SS is nowhere near where Musk promised in terms of time and capability. Tesla has not delivered what it promised wrt self-driving - nowhere near.
And as for Musk himself: there is little positive to be said about him personally. You just need to look at what he said to Tommy's march to see some evidence of that.
I do not have a 'childish' attitude towards Musk. I have an realistic attitude.
To be fair "entrepreneur being optimistic about timelines" is not exactly front page news.
The thing I would be most critical about is just how thin Musk has allowed himself to be spread, and that is impacting all his business decisions. He's got Tesla, SpaceX, Twitter/xAI, politics, the Boring Company, and probably half a dozen other things. His inattention to Tesla has led him to being behind Chinese vendors, while getting far too excited about the Cybertruck (which is now selling less than -not very successful- Ford Lightning).
Of his various ventures, the only one I'm genuinely excited by right now is SpaceX.
Tesla robotics is pretty far advanced - probably the best in America, but behind the Chinese
"Nasa has said it hopes to send astronauts on a trip around the Moon as soon as February to prepare for landing there as early as 2027.... The Artemis II mission is the second launch of the Artemis programme, whose aim is to land astronauts and eventually establish a long-term presence on the lunar surface."
Cool! I hope it'll be a safe mission.
Well, it's first time out for the life support system. It's never flown in space before.
It's the first time out for this version of the heat shield. The spacecraft will be flying an adjusted trajectory to see if that mitigates the high and uneven erosion of the heat shield on the previous test flight.
There's a whole bunch of other firsts as well.
It'll still be safer than Starship will be for many years...
We shall see
Firstly, there are lots and lots of piccies of SH/SS with damage and exploding.
Secondly, be careful not to give the impression you want a crewed SLS mission to fail, just because you're on Team SS.
Thirdly, I really don't see SS being man-rated for earth landings in the near future. Do you?
A way to go yet, but ay least Musk is getting on with it. One of the good things about his other rocket - Falcon is it's done so many missions the crash odds are a statistical reality rather than a computer model extrapolation
Musk is a bit of a hero in terms of his space efforts. He's advancing knowledge at a similar rate to that which NASA did in the 1960s. I think its about the finest commitment to the future of humanity ever made by an individual. In which light I can forgive him for quite a lot.
I wholeheartedly agree. The prior poster further up has an irritatingly childish attitude to Musk and the achievement of his companies.
I admire what SpaceX has done, but SH/SS is nowhere near where Musk promised in terms of time and capability. Tesla has not delivered what it promised wrt self-driving - nowhere near.
And as for Musk himself: there is little positive to be said about him personally. You just need to look at what he said to Tommy's march to see some evidence of that.
I do not have a 'childish' attitude towards Musk. I have an realistic attitude.
To be fair "entrepreneur being optimistic about timelines" is not exactly front page news.
The thing I would be most critical about is just how thin Musk has allowed himself to be spread, and that is impacting all his business decisions. He's got Tesla, SpaceX, Twitter/xAI, politics, the Boring Company, and probably half a dozen other things. His inattention to Tesla has led him to being behind Chinese vendors, while getting far too excited about the Cybertruck (which is now selling less than -not very successful- Ford Lightning).
Of his various ventures, the only one I'm genuinely excited by right now is SpaceX.
I was a bit surprised by his Tommy pop-up. I thought Elon had been pretty well slapped down by shareholders/backers about the politics stuff. Maybe it's fine if it's 'in foreign lands'.
He's FINALLY seeing that backing Ukraine is his way to land a Nobel Peace Prize...
He's already resolved seven wars since January. Does he really need another to get his Nobel prize?
It's been a busy day today too. He found a cure for autism ( don't consume paracetamol) and London is no longer subject to the Sharia legal system it was this morning.
On more pressing matters, Liverpool Southampton is so far so dreary.
I'm more into the BBC fact check noting a prior social media rumour (which I missed at the time) that London was going going to introduce Shakira law. Now, that I could support.
In fact, Shakira's hips for president - they don't lie.
Ive been entertaining myself with the shortest first class steps from Jimmy Anderson to WG Grace in first class cricket so im going to bore you with it
Jimmy played with Alec Stewart Who played with and against Ian Botham who played with Brian Close (Somerset 1976) who played against Bob Wyatt (MCC vs Yorkshire 1949) who played with Wilfred Rhodes (Gower xi vs touring Australians 1930) who's first test was WG Graces last test
I think that's the shortest route between the Goats
Impressive. Much easier but still thought provoking is the simple overlap of lives, just because people live long. Those in their late 90s now were alive when Thomas Hardy was alive. When Thomas Hardy was young, Wordsworth was still alive. And so on.
On a similar startling note, from today back to my birthday is a longer time frame than my birthday to Queen Victoria's reign- just!
Ive been entertaining myself with the shortest first class steps from Jimmy Anderson to WG Grace in first class cricket so im going to bore you with it
Jimmy played with Alec Stewart Who played with and against Ian Botham who played with Brian Close (Somerset 1976) who played against Bob Wyatt (MCC vs Yorkshire 1949) who played with Wilfred Rhodes (Gower xi vs touring Australians 1930) who's first test was WG Graces last test
I think that's the shortest route between the Goats
Very good!
It would be interesting to do a political Kevin Bacon on this
"X was in a Cabinet with X who was in a Cabinet with Gladstone/Disraeli/Pitt/Wellington"
Ive been entertaining myself with the shortest first class steps from Jimmy Anderson to WG Grace in first class cricket so im going to bore you with it
Jimmy played with Alec Stewart Who played with and against Ian Botham who played with Brian Close (Somerset 1976) who played against Bob Wyatt (MCC vs Yorkshire 1949) who played with Wilfred Rhodes (Gower xi vs touring Australians 1930) who's first test was WG Graces last test
I think that's the shortest route between the Goats
Impressive. Much easier but still thought provoking is the simple overlap of lives, just because people live long. Those in their late 90s now were alive when Thomas Hardy was alive. When Thomas Hardy was young, Wordsworth was still alive. And so on.
I've been a bit staggered this year to think that it's 200 years since the first 'proper' railway (*) opened, and I have been alive for over a quarter of that time.
(*) Depending on the definition of what a 'railway' is. Please let's not go there...
"Last Surviving Grandson of President John Tyler, Who Took Office in 1841, Dies at 96 When Harrison Ruffin Tyler’s grandfather was born 235 years ago in 1790, George Washington had just become the nation’s first president
Harrison Ruffin Tyler, grandson of the tenth American president John Tyler, died on May 25"
Hmmm. The current File on 4 Investigates is somewhat incendiary...
Definitely thrown the Home Office under the bus.
NHS appointments at the opposite ends of the country for asylum hotel residents (taxi, £300 each way) because they were registered elsewhere and then moved.
Ive been entertaining myself with the shortest first class steps from Jimmy Anderson to WG Grace in first class cricket so im going to bore you with it
Jimmy played with Alec Stewart Who played with and against Ian Botham who played with Brian Close (Somerset 1976) who played against Bob Wyatt (MCC vs Yorkshire 1949) who played with Wilfred Rhodes (Gower xi vs touring Australians 1930) who's first test was WG Graces last test
I think that's the shortest route between the Goats
Very good!
It would be interesting to do a political Kevin Bacon on this
"X was in a Cabinet with X who was in a Cabinet with Gladstone/Disraeli/Pitt/Wellington"
Churchill takes one, rather amazingly, in one x->y leap from the Liberal cabinet of around 1910 to the mid 1950s!!!
Slightly disappointing that the Rapture appears to have gone AWOL again.
Oh, was it [supposed to be] today?
I thought so on the basis of previous posts here. Though would be funny if I'd got it wrong and it did subsequently turn up tomorrow.
Yes, it was due today. Not sure about time but I'd imagine they'd schedule it for the tea time news in America.
Perhaps it happened and we - and everyone we know - just weren't good enough people?
My theology is a little rusty, but ISTR when the rapture comes, 40,000 will be called. I think we'd barely notice if the 40,000 Christianest people were to suddenly disappear.
"Nasa has said it hopes to send astronauts on a trip around the Moon as soon as February to prepare for landing there as early as 2027.... The Artemis II mission is the second launch of the Artemis programme, whose aim is to land astronauts and eventually establish a long-term presence on the lunar surface."
Cool! I hope it'll be a safe mission.
Well, it's first time out for the life support system. It's never flown in space before.
It's the first time out for this version of the heat shield. The spacecraft will be flying an adjusted trajectory to see if that mitigates the high and uneven erosion of the heat shield on the previous test flight.
There's a whole bunch of other firsts as well.
It'll still be safer than Starship will be for many years...
We shall see
Firstly, there are lots and lots of piccies of SH/SS with damage and exploding.
Secondly, be careful not to give the impression you want a crewed SLS mission to fail, just because you're on Team SS.
Thirdly, I really don't see SS being man-rated for earth landings in the near future. Do you?
A way to go yet, but ay least Musk is getting on with it. One of the good things about his other rocket - Falcon is it's done so many missions the crash odds are a statistical reality rather than a computer model extrapolation
Musk is a bit of a hero in terms of his space efforts. He's advancing knowledge at a similar rate to that which NASA did in the 1960s. I think its about the finest commitment to the future of humanity ever made by an individual. In which light I can forgive him for quite a lot.
I wholeheartedly agree. The prior poster further up has an irritatingly childish attitude to Musk and the achievement of his companies.
I admire what SpaceX has done, but SH/SS is nowhere near where Musk promised in terms of time and capability. Tesla has not delivered what it promised wrt self-driving - nowhere near.
And as for Musk himself: there is little positive to be said about him personally. You just need to look at what he said to Tommy's march to see some evidence of that.
I do not have a 'childish' attitude towards Musk. I have an realistic attitude.
To be fair "entrepreneur being optimistic about timelines" is not exactly front page news.
The thing I would be most critical about is just how thin Musk has allowed himself to be spread, and that is impacting all his business decisions. He's got Tesla, SpaceX, Twitter/xAI, politics, the Boring Company, and probably half a dozen other things. His inattention to Tesla has led him to being behind Chinese vendors, while getting far too excited about the Cybertruck (which is now selling less than -not very successful- Ford Lightning).
Of his various ventures, the only one I'm genuinely excited by right now is SpaceX.
Tesla robotics is pretty far advanced - probably the best in America, but behind the Chinese
Grok is good
The top guy at Tesla robotics left last week for Meta. I presume he got one of those comedy sized cheques from Zuckerberg.
xAI speed of going from zero to catching up with the rest is very impressive. Meta haven't managed that.
"Nasa has said it hopes to send astronauts on a trip around the Moon as soon as February to prepare for landing there as early as 2027.... The Artemis II mission is the second launch of the Artemis programme, whose aim is to land astronauts and eventually establish a long-term presence on the lunar surface."
Cool! I hope it'll be a safe mission.
Well, it's first time out for the life support system. It's never flown in space before.
It's the first time out for this version of the heat shield. The spacecraft will be flying an adjusted trajectory to see if that mitigates the high and uneven erosion of the heat shield on the previous test flight.
There's a whole bunch of other firsts as well.
It'll still be safer than Starship will be for many years...
We shall see
Firstly, there are lots and lots of piccies of SH/SS with damage and exploding.
Secondly, be careful not to give the impression you want a crewed SLS mission to fail, just because you're on Team SS.
Thirdly, I really don't see SS being man-rated for earth landings in the near future. Do you?
A way to go yet, but ay least Musk is getting on with it. One of the good things about his other rocket - Falcon is it's done so many missions the crash odds are a statistical reality rather than a computer model extrapolation
Musk is a bit of a hero in terms of his space efforts. He's advancing knowledge at a similar rate to that which NASA did in the 1960s. I think its about the finest commitment to the future of humanity ever made by an individual. In which light I can forgive him for quite a lot.
I wholeheartedly agree. The prior poster further up has an irritatingly childish attitude to Musk and the achievement of his companies.
I admire what SpaceX has done, but SH/SS is nowhere near where Musk promised in terms of time and capability. Tesla has not delivered what it promised wrt self-driving - nowhere near.
And as for Musk himself: there is little positive to be said about him personally. You just need to look at what he said to Tommy's march to see some evidence of that.
I do not have a 'childish' attitude towards Musk. I have an realistic attitude.
To be fair "entrepreneur being optimistic about timelines" is not exactly front page news.
The thing I would be most critical about is just how thin Musk has allowed himself to be spread, and that is impacting all his business decisions. He's got Tesla, SpaceX, Twitter/xAI, politics, the Boring Company, and probably half a dozen other things. His inattention to Tesla has led him to being behind Chinese vendors, while getting far too excited about the Cybertruck (which is now selling less than -not very successful- Ford Lightning).
Of his various ventures, the only one I'm genuinely excited by right now is SpaceX.
Tesla robotics is pretty far advanced - probably the best in America, but behind the Chinese
Grok is good
No love for Neuralink? By the way I am heavily bet against rcs on tsla. We have rehearsed the argument many times. I have listened. And I am still financially very long my view.
Spacex criticism I can’t take seriously. “Oh you liar you still haven’t founded a city on Mars!”.
Ive been entertaining myself with the shortest first class steps from Jimmy Anderson to WG Grace in first class cricket so im going to bore you with it
Jimmy played with Alec Stewart Who played with and against Ian Botham who played with Brian Close (Somerset 1976) who played against Bob Wyatt (MCC vs Yorkshire 1949) who played with Wilfred Rhodes (Gower xi vs touring Australians 1930) who's first test was WG Graces last test
I think that's the shortest route between the Goats
Very good!
It would be interesting to do a political Kevin Bacon on this
"X was in a Cabinet with X who was in a Cabinet with Gladastone/Disraeli/Pitt/Wellington"
Identifying big leaps is key to that. Obviously Churchill will be a key leap he gets you to Asquith and then Gladstone, the route back to Churchill goes through Ken Clarke I guess and somene In The 1980s cabinet that gets us to the pre 1966 cabinet?
Home secretary suffers humiliating defeat — refused permission even to appeal against the blocking of an Eritrean migrant’s deportation to France under the one in, one out scheme. Labour in opposition cheered on the courts when a Tory government was similarly thwarted by the courts. Labour-inclined lawyers and judges have championed judicial activism and growing lawfare. It is being hoist by its own petard.
Ive been entertaining myself with the shortest first class steps from Jimmy Anderson to WG Grace in first class cricket so im going to bore you with it
Jimmy played with Alec Stewart Who played with and against Ian Botham who played with Brian Close (Somerset 1976) who played against Bob Wyatt (MCC vs Yorkshire 1949) who played with Wilfred Rhodes (Gower xi vs touring Australians 1930) who's first test was WG Graces last test
I think that's the shortest route between the Goats
Very good!
It would be interesting to do a political Kevin Bacon on this
"X was in a Cabinet with X who was in a Cabinet with Gladstone/Disraeli/Pitt/Wellington"
Churchill takes one, rather amazingly, in one x->y leap from the Liberal cabinet of around 1910 to the mid 1950s!!!
It's a shame that Quintin Hogg/Lord Hailsham didn't join the Cabinet a bit earlier, because then you could have got to 1987 in another single leap.
Home secretary suffers humiliating defeat — refused permission even to appeal against the blocking of an Eritrean migrant’s deportation to France under the one in, one out scheme. Labour in opposition cheered on the courts when a Tory government was similarly thwarted by the courts. Labour-inclined lawyers and judges have championed judicial activism and growing lawfare. It is being hoist by its own petard.
A U.N. official said the UN understands that someone from the president’s party who ran ahead of him inadvertently triggered the stop mechanism on the escalator. The official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the White House was operating the teleprompter for Trump.
Ive been entertaining myself with the shortest first class steps from Jimmy Anderson to WG Grace in first class cricket so im going to bore you with it
Jimmy played with Alec Stewart Who played with and against Ian Botham who played with Brian Close (Somerset 1976) who played against Bob Wyatt (MCC vs Yorkshire 1949) who played with Wilfred Rhodes (Gower xi vs touring Australians 1930) who's first test was WG Graces last test
I think that's the shortest route between the Goats
Very good!
It would be interesting to do a political Kevin Bacon on this
"X was in a Cabinet with X who was in a Cabinet with Gladastone/Disraeli/Pitt/Wellington"
Identifying big leaps is key to that. Obviously Churchill will be a key leap he gets you to Asquith and then Gladstone, the route back to Churchill goes through Ken Clarke I guess and somene In The 1980s cabinet that gets us to the pre 1966 cabinet?
Ive been entertaining myself with the shortest first class steps from Jimmy Anderson to WG Grace in first class cricket so im going to bore you with it
Jimmy played with Alec Stewart Who played with and against Ian Botham who played with Brian Close (Somerset 1976) who played against Bob Wyatt (MCC vs Yorkshire 1949) who played with Wilfred Rhodes (Gower xi vs touring Australians 1930) who's first test was WG Graces last test
I think that's the shortest route between the Goats
Very good!
It would be interesting to do a political Kevin Bacon on this
"X was in a Cabinet with X who was in a Cabinet with Gladastone/Disraeli/Pitt/Wellington"
Identifying big leaps is key to that. Obviously Churchill will be a key leap he gets you to Asquith and then Gladstone, the route back to Churchill goes through Ken Clarke I guess and somene In The 1980s cabinet that gets us to the pre 1966 cabinet?
Hailsham might be a player in this.
Yes just looked at that! Clarke Hailsham Eden Churchill Asquith Gladstone
Ive been entertaining myself with the shortest first class steps from Jimmy Anderson to WG Grace in first class cricket so im going to bore you with it
Jimmy played with Alec Stewart Who played with and against Ian Botham who played with Brian Close (Somerset 1976) who played against Bob Wyatt (MCC vs Yorkshire 1949) who played with Wilfred Rhodes (Gower xi vs touring Australians 1930) who's first test was WG Graces last test
I think that's the shortest route between the Goats
Very good!
It would be interesting to do a political Kevin Bacon on this
"X was in a Cabinet with X who was in a Cabinet with Gladastone/Disraeli/Pitt/Wellington"
Identifying big leaps is key to that. Obviously Churchill will be a key leap he gets you to Asquith and then Gladstone, the route back to Churchill goes through Ken Clarke I guess and somene In The 1980s cabinet that gets us to the pre 1966 cabinet?
1. Quintin Hogg, Baron Hailsham of St Marylebone (Conservative) Span: 59 years (1928–1987) First: Attorney General (1928–1929) Last: Lord Chancellor (1979–1987) He held multiple senior roles, including Lord Chancellor three times, across governments from Baldwin to Thatcher. 2. William Ewart Gladstone (Liberal) Span: 53 years (1841–1894) First: Vice-President of the Board of Trade (1841–1843) Last: Prime Minister (1892–1894) Gladstone served in four Liberal governments as PM and in key economic and foreign roles, shaping Victorian reforms. 3. Winston Churchill (Conservative/Liberal) Span: 47 years (1908–1955) First: President of the Board of Trade (1908–1910) Last: Prime Minister (1951–1955) Churchill’s career spanned trade, home affairs, war leadership, and premierships during both world wars. 4. Arthur James Balfour (Conservative) Span: 42 years (1887–1929) First: Chief Secretary for Ireland (1887–1891) Last: Lord President of the Council (1925–1929) Balfour was PM (1902–1905), Foreign Secretary during WWI, and key in early 20th-century diplomacy. 5. Spencer Compton Cavendish, 8th Duke of Devonshire (Liberal Unionist) Span: 35 years (1868–1903) First: Postmaster General (1868–1871) Last: Lord President of the Council (1895–1903) He led Liberal Unionists, served in war and colonial offices, and was a major figure in late Victorian politics.
Ive been entertaining myself with the shortest first class steps from Jimmy Anderson to WG Grace in first class cricket so im going to bore you with it
Jimmy played with Alec Stewart Who played with and against Ian Botham who played with Brian Close (Somerset 1976) who played against Bob Wyatt (MCC vs Yorkshire 1949) who played with Wilfred Rhodes (Gower xi vs touring Australians 1930) who's first test was WG Graces last test
I think that's the shortest route between the Goats
Very good!
It would be interesting to do a political Kevin Bacon on this
"X was in a Cabinet with X who was in a Cabinet with Gladastone/Disraeli/Pitt/Wellington"
Identifying big leaps is key to that. Obviously Churchill will be a key leap he gets you to Asquith and then Gladstone, the route back to Churchill goes through Ken Clarke I guess and somene In The 1980s cabinet that gets us to the pre 1966 cabinet?
Gladstone also had an enormously long political career, a minister in 1841, still prime minister in 1894!
So you could probably get back to the 18th century fairly quickly
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As Charles Carmada said (ex-astronaut, and engineer who specialised in hypersonic heat shielding at NASA) - “Bill Nelson, Pam Melroy and the entire leadership team at NASA should be ashamed”
See also the comments from Ed Pope, whose being doing this kind of stuff for 30 years.
Just twiddling the re-entry a bit and trying again, *with people on board*, is barking.
It’s reminds me of Ares I and the bullshit about SRB safety.
POTUS: “I think Ukraine, with the support of the European Union, is in a position to fight and WIN all of Ukraine back in its original form.”
https://x.com/annmarie/status/1970563985113260524
Starmer's chief of staff and £700k 'admin error' https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15126587/Starmer-Chief-Staff-700k-admin-error-Bombshell-leaked-email-Labour-lawyer-Morgan-McSweeney-700-000-donations.html?ito=native_share_article-nativemenubutton
If it results in the useless McSweeney falling on his sword, post away.
Not now. The test of whether Kemi is any good is whether under her leadership the voter can answer with crisp clarity these important questions:
Are you and your party competent
What are your distinctive and unique political beliefs
How will you resolve the big political and economic questions
As a Tory voter for 50 years my answers are:
No; No idea; No idea.
The thing I would be most critical about is just how thin Musk has allowed himself to be spread, and that is impacting all his business decisions. He's got Tesla, SpaceX, Twitter/xAI, politics, the Boring Company, and probably half a dozen other things. His inattention to Tesla has led him to being behind Chinese vendors, while getting far too excited about the Cybertruck (which is now selling less than -not very successful- Ford Lightning).
Of his various ventures, the only one I'm genuinely excited by right now is SpaceX.
But then as my client hasn't been awarded any projects recently, I've also just readily agreed to do some entirely futile report.
It's been a busy day today too. He found a cure for autism ( don't consume paracetamol) and London is no longer subject to the Sharia legal system it was this morning.
On more pressing matters, Liverpool Southampton is so far so dreary.
It shows how authorities may have been misled over hundreds of thousands of pounds of donations used to install Starmer as Labour leader.
https://x.com/conservatives/status/1970544603611746390?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q
Trump: "Putin and Russia are in BIG Economic trouble, and this is the time for Ukraine to act."
Interestingly on R4 PM the 56 minute speech was condensed down to a few incredibly impressive minutes. The edit was so good Trump sounded very credible. Evan and his guests then earnestly discussed the contents of the edit.
Attorney General Pam Bondi’s chief of staff, Chad Mizelle, is leaving the Justice Department, the attorney general and her deputy confirmed in statements provided to CNN.
I've always been *exceptionally* bearish about The Boring Company, and I feel like my scepticism has been well-rewarded.
But I would quibble about optimistic timelines. The world has changed over the last two or three decades. Tesla has a massive technical debt with FSD that it has not yet filled, and which people have paid vast amounts of money for. Then there's the Roadster 2. Announced 14 years ago, with deposits being taken in 2017, when it was due for release in 2020. Five years later, and it is nowhere to be seen. They have taken many thousands of $50,000 deposits for something that is now many years late.
There comes a time when that is no longer an entrepreneur being optimistic, and it becomes fraud.
Jimmy played with
Alec Stewart Who played with and against
Ian Botham who played with
Brian Close (Somerset 1976) who played against
Bob Wyatt (MCC vs Yorkshire 1949) who played with
Wilfred Rhodes (Gower xi vs touring Australians 1930) who's first test was
WG Graces last test
I think that's the shortest route between the Goats
Another interesting cricket fact imo is that the only England player who played in the 80s, 90s and noughties is Mike Atherton.
https://static.espncricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/1980S/1986/NZ_IN_ENG/NZ_DB-CLOSE-XI_31AUG-02SEP1986.html
Is there anyone who he played with in the 1980s who might have played against Jimmy Anderson ?
Brian Close is a massive bridge and lucky that Wyatt went on post war. Gubby Allen also did but missed the Yorkshire game in 1949 so never played Close.
Grace and Rhodes coinciding in retirement and debut is a lovely cricket wrinkle
(*) Depending on the definition of what a 'railway' is. Please let's not go there...
Time to fight the slide towards Trump-style fascism. Well said Ed Davey.
Desperate to be "relevant" they are front loading and promoting the very people who will end them.
In fact, Shakira's hips for president - they don't lie.
Politicians largely give me the pip.. Maybe its my age...
BREAKING: former Tennessee house speaker Glen Casada has been sentenced to three years in federal prison, one year of probation and a $30,000 fine for his role in a kickback scheme.
@thetnholler.bsky.social
UPDATE — Former speaker Casada gets 3 years for corruption after Cothren got 2.5
(Next Q: Will Trump pardon them?)
Grok is good
it's not as if it's the end of the world.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cp8j9em75n8t
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1cMpKjoNaI
It would be interesting to do a political Kevin Bacon on this
"X was in a Cabinet with X who was in a Cabinet with Gladstone/Disraeli/Pitt/Wellington"
When Harrison Ruffin Tyler’s grandfather was born 235 years ago in 1790, George Washington had just become the nation’s first president
Harrison Ruffin Tyler, grandson of the tenth American president John Tyler, died on May 25"
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/last-surviving-grandson-of-president-john-tyler-who-took-office-in-1841-dies-at-96-180986724/
NHS appointments at the opposite ends of the country for asylum hotel residents (taxi, £300 each way) because they were registered elsewhere and then moved.
WTF?
https://x.com/kemibadenoch/status/1970492106973286450?s=46
In the past year, the Lib Dems have backed Keir Starmer in Parliament over 120 times.
They are not a serious opposition party.
xAI speed of going from zero to catching up with the rest is very impressive. Meta haven't managed that.
Spacex criticism I can’t take seriously. “Oh you liar you still haven’t founded a city on Mars!”.
Labour in opposition cheered on the courts when a Tory government was similarly thwarted by the courts. Labour-inclined lawyers and judges have championed judicial activism and growing lawfare.
It is being hoist by its own petard.
https://x.com/afneil/status/1970565397821747263?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q
Oops. No change then...
Big Jet TV's Jerry Dyer talks to SKS about Gatwick's second runway:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HHYzVyNhtM
@FarnoushAmiri
A U.N. official said the UN understands that someone from the president’s party who ran ahead of him inadvertently triggered the stop mechanism on the escalator. The official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the White House was operating the teleprompter for Trump.
Clarke Hailsham Eden Churchill Asquith Gladstone
2. William Ewart Gladstone (Liberal) Span: 53 years (1841–1894) First: Vice-President of the Board of Trade (1841–1843) Last: Prime Minister (1892–1894) Gladstone served in four Liberal governments as PM and in key economic and foreign roles, shaping Victorian reforms.
3. Winston Churchill (Conservative/Liberal) Span: 47 years (1908–1955) First: President of the Board of Trade (1908–1910) Last: Prime Minister (1951–1955) Churchill’s career spanned trade, home affairs, war leadership, and premierships during both world wars.
4. Arthur James Balfour (Conservative) Span: 42 years (1887–1929) First: Chief Secretary for Ireland (1887–1891) Last: Lord President of the Council (1925–1929) Balfour was PM (1902–1905), Foreign Secretary during WWI, and key in early 20th-century diplomacy.
5. Spencer Compton Cavendish, 8th Duke of Devonshire (Liberal Unionist) Span: 35 years (1868–1903) First: Postmaster General (1868–1871) Last: Lord President of the Council (1895–1903) He led Liberal Unionists, served in war and colonial offices, and was a major figure in late Victorian politics.
So you could probably get back to the 18th century fairly quickly