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  • LeonLeon Posts: 61,832
    Scott_xP said:

    Hey @Leon

    I was chatting with these folks today

    https://www.kalebcoopercontracting.co.uk/meat

    Their next big idea in "farm to fork" is to add What3Words to each pack, so you can see which field your pork chops grew up in

    Interesting. I do wonder if it is now - belatedly - gaining traction. The idea remains genius

    Today I was SCREAMING for the Faroese tourist board to use what3words

    They closed the main path to that massive slave cliff and all they could offer as an alternative was a 12 digit deeply obscure GPS reference which I got wrong and led me nowhere

    what3words would have led me to the precise spot in seconds
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 35,630
    Scott_xP said:

    Hey @Leon

    I was chatting with these folks today

    https://www.kalebcoopercontracting.co.uk/meat

    Their next big idea in "farm to fork" is to add What3Words to each pack, so you can see which field your pork chops grew up in

    Not necessary for me, I see the field where they live all the time.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 30,163
    Scott_xP said:

    Hey @Leon

    I was chatting with these folks today

    https://www.kalebcoopercontracting.co.uk/meat

    Their next big idea in "farm to fork" is to add What3Words to each pack, so you can see which field your pork chops grew up in

    I take it Meat is Murder won't be the three words?
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,645

    Scott_xP said:

    Hey @Leon

    I was chatting with these folks today

    https://www.kalebcoopercontracting.co.uk/meat

    Their next big idea in "farm to fork" is to add What3Words to each pack, so you can see which field your pork chops grew up in

    What3Words could aim to replace AOC for wine.
    On the same theme, Donald Trump could aim to replace Pete Hesgeth for pure Bourbon as Defen(s)e Secretary.
  • RattersRatters Posts: 1,358

    Evening all.
    Iran appears to be struggling to get as many missiles away today. If theyre running short on launchers or the takedowns are giving them command and control logistics issues they'll need a different strategy.

    I'm not sure there is anything, militarily, that they can do.

    Israel has complete aerial dominance and can pick and choose its targets at will. Which will only increase the imbalance between the two sides over time as more Iranian offensive and defensive kit are destroyed.

    Israel has wiped out most Iranian regional proxies in the region that could attack from closer range.

    Israel clearly has better intelligence and can take out senior leadership on the Iranian side.

    At this point I'm not sure there's much more they can do than taking a kicking for two weeks and keep trying to sue for peace.
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 24,675
    edited June 15
    Ratters said:

    Evening all.
    Iran appears to be struggling to get as many missiles away today. If theyre running short on launchers or the takedowns are giving them command and control logistics issues they'll need a different strategy.

    I'm not sure there is anything, militarily, that they can do.

    Israel has complete aerial dominance and can pick and choose its targets at will. Which will only increase the imbalance between the two sides over time as more Iranian offensive and defensive kit are destroyed.

    Israel has wiped out most Iranian regional proxies in the region that could attack from closer range.

    Israel clearly has better intelligence and can take out senior leadership on the Iranian side.

    At this point I'm not sure there's much more they can do than taking a kicking for two weeks and keep trying to sue for peace.
    Peace should require as a minimum the complete dismantlement of all nuclear activities and IAEA supervised transfer of all nuclear materials out of the country. No return to "civilian" use.

    As a maximum that and regime change.
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 24,675
    dixiedean said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Hey @Leon

    I was chatting with these folks today

    https://www.kalebcoopercontracting.co.uk/meat

    Their next big idea in "farm to fork" is to add What3Words to each pack, so you can see which field your pork chops grew up in

    I take it Meat is Murder won't be the three words?
    I found Leon's location.

    Bigmouth.Strikes.Again
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 35,630
    "Nick Gibb
    It’s time for a national ban on smartphones in schools
    This is not about rolling back progress. It is about restoring the conditions in which children can flourish" (£)

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/06/15/national-ban-smartphones-schools/
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 11,453
    Ratters said:

    Evening all.
    Iran appears to be struggling to get as many missiles away today. If theyre running short on launchers or the takedowns are giving them command and control logistics issues they'll need a different strategy.

    I'm not sure there is anything, militarily, that they can do.

    Israel has complete aerial dominance and can pick and choose its targets at will. Which will only increase the imbalance between the two sides over time as more Iranian offensive and defensive kit are destroyed.

    Israel has wiped out most Iranian regional proxies in the region that could attack from closer range.

    Israel clearly has better intelligence and can take out senior leadership on the Iranian side.

    At this point I'm not sure there's much more they can do than taking a kicking for two weeks and keep trying to sue for peace.
    Closing the Hormuz strait is probably a last gasp effort they fall back on, try and drag in others into a wider war
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 43,950
    dixiedean said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Hey @Leon

    I was chatting with these folks today

    https://www.kalebcoopercontracting.co.uk/meat

    Their next big idea in "farm to fork" is to add What3Words to each pack, so you can see which field your pork chops grew up in

    I take it Meat is Murder won't be the three words?
    It would be a nice touch if they included the name of the individual animals involved.

    Babe.died.well
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 31,723

    It's British jobs for British workers time.

    https://x.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1934250894767391067

    If a company wants to build Britain’s roads, railways, hospitals or schools — then our new rules make sure they also create local jobs and growth for British workers.

    Our Plan for Change will get Britain building.

    A problem being that 'British worker' would be defined to include any migrant who had arrived the previous month.
    Cynical and deluded.

    Perhaps you'd like to show me how 'any migrant' can become British within one month.

    No doubt you can point out to the relevant route?:

    https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/uk-visas-and-immigration
    It doesn't mean anything - as someone above pointed out, it was just some fool playing with ChatGPT.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 55,709
    Starmer is apparently multitasking by bringing some mail with him.

    https://x.com/keir_starmer/status/1934337211904000274

    Great to see you, @MarkJCarney.

    I’m here in Canada to deliver for Brits back home.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 128,089

    Morning PB.

    It's looking clear that the Israelis have got over-confident.

    Evening PB.

    It's looking clear that the Israelis have got total air superiority over Iran.

    Another Iranian leader dead. Israeli jets flying unimpeded in Iranian air space. Iran impotently lobbing a few missiles at civilian buildings while Israel degrades their military.

    Israel have the upper hand and will never have a better opportunity than this to push on, and push hard, and push fast.
    The son of the late Shah of Iran has been meeting Netanyahu and looks like being lined up to take over as head of state if the regime falls. Though Trump has vetoed an assassination attempt on the Ayatollah which could turn the situation into a conflagration
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 11,453

    Starmer is apparently multitasking by bringing some mail with him.

    https://x.com/keir_starmer/status/1934337211904000274

    Great to see you, @MarkJCarney.

    I’m here in Canada to deliver for Brits back home.

    Two absolute Z tier world leaders. Maybe we will get a trade deal for exciting low cost maple syrup and curling stones
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 30,163
    HYUFD said:

    Morning PB.

    It's looking clear that the Israelis have got over-confident.

    Evening PB.

    It's looking clear that the Israelis have got total air superiority over Iran.

    Another Iranian leader dead. Israeli jets flying unimpeded in Iranian air space. Iran impotently lobbing a few missiles at civilian buildings while Israel degrades their military.

    Israel have the upper hand and will never have a better opportunity than this to push on, and push hard, and push fast.
    The son of the late Shah of Iran has been meeting Netanyahu and looks like being lined up to take over as head of state if the regime falls. Though Trump has vetoed an assassination attempt on the Ayatollah which could turn the situation into a conflagration
    A restored monarchy imposed by Israel sounds conflagration-y enough thanks.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 11,453
    Iran launching again in tandem with Yemenis
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 24,675
    dixiedean said:

    HYUFD said:

    Morning PB.

    It's looking clear that the Israelis have got over-confident.

    Evening PB.

    It's looking clear that the Israelis have got total air superiority over Iran.

    Another Iranian leader dead. Israeli jets flying unimpeded in Iranian air space. Iran impotently lobbing a few missiles at civilian buildings while Israel degrades their military.

    Israel have the upper hand and will never have a better opportunity than this to push on, and push hard, and push fast.
    The son of the late Shah of Iran has been meeting Netanyahu and looks like being lined up to take over as head of state if the regime falls. Though Trump has vetoed an assassination attempt on the Ayatollah which could turn the situation into a conflagration
    A restored monarchy imposed by Israel sounds conflagration-y enough thanks.
    Why?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 54,572

    Iran launching again in tandem with Yemenis

    I'm sick and tired of popcorn!
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 128,089

    dixiedean said:

    HYUFD said:

    Morning PB.

    It's looking clear that the Israelis have got over-confident.

    Evening PB.

    It's looking clear that the Israelis have got total air superiority over Iran.

    Another Iranian leader dead. Israeli jets flying unimpeded in Iranian air space. Iran impotently lobbing a few missiles at civilian buildings while Israel degrades their military.

    Israel have the upper hand and will never have a better opportunity than this to push on, and push hard, and push fast.
    The son of the late Shah of Iran has been meeting Netanyahu and looks like being lined up to take over as head of state if the regime falls. Though Trump has vetoed an assassination attempt on the Ayatollah which could turn the situation into a conflagration
    A restored monarchy imposed by Israel sounds conflagration-y enough thanks.
    Why?
    Iran was a relatively wealthy and free nation compared to now when the last Shah was removed by the Iranian Revolution yes
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 30,163
    edited June 15

    dixiedean said:

    HYUFD said:

    Morning PB.

    It's looking clear that the Israelis have got over-confident.

    Evening PB.

    It's looking clear that the Israelis have got total air superiority over Iran.

    Another Iranian leader dead. Israeli jets flying unimpeded in Iranian air space. Iran impotently lobbing a few missiles at civilian buildings while Israel degrades their military.

    Israel have the upper hand and will never have a better opportunity than this to push on, and push hard, and push fast.
    The son of the late Shah of Iran has been meeting Netanyahu and looks like being lined up to take over as head of state if the regime falls. Though Trump has vetoed an assassination attempt on the Ayatollah which could turn the situation into a conflagration
    A restored monarchy imposed by Israel sounds conflagration-y enough thanks.
    Why?
    Do I have to be a SEN Primary School teacher on here as well?
    Do you think that would be kind?
    How do you think some Iranian people might feel?
    Might they not like it and do something unkind?
  • Jim_MillerJim_Miller Posts: 3,350
    edited June 15
    On parades: At the end of the WW II North African campaign, the allies held a victory parade in Tunis. Some American officers were not happy with the American soldiers in it: 'Patton complained that "our men do not put up a good show in reviews. I think that we still lack pride in being soldiers, and we must develop it."'

    An American colonel thought that '"the British made much the better show."'
    source: Atkinson, An Army at Dawn, pp. 531-532.

    (For the record: In actual WW II combat, American soldiers often had to be reminded to spread out, for obvious reasons.)
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,287

    I've been thinking about my attitude towards Trump, and it's interesting how it has changed.

    I'm disgusted by him and how he acts, that's a constant and a given, of course. And I'm still scared of what he might choose to do, or allow to be done in his name.

    The thing that has changed is that my dominant feeling is one of contempt for his weakness. His slogan is to "Make America Great Again" but in everything that he does he actually is making America weak. We see this today with him bigging up Putin as a mediator in the Israel/Iran war - way to go to make an adversary of America stronger and diplomatically more important! His social media message about Putin wishing him a happy birthday on the phone was just cringe. It's like Trump thinks people should be impressed that a world leader spoke to him on the phone. Hello! You're the President of the United States. Of course other world leaders will speak to you on the phone. Stop fawning over them when they do so.

    It's so deeply lame and pathetic.

    He doesn't think Putin is an adversary of the United States.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 19,335

    I've been thinking about my attitude towards Trump, and it's interesting how it has changed.

    I'm disgusted by him and how he acts, that's a constant and a given, of course. And I'm still scared of what he might choose to do, or allow to be done in his name.

    The thing that has changed is that my dominant feeling is one of contempt for his weakness. His slogan is to "Make America Great Again" but in everything that he does he actually is making America weak. We see this today with him bigging up Putin as a mediator in the Israel/Iran war - way to go to make an adversary of America stronger and diplomatically more important! His social media message about Putin wishing him a happy birthday on the phone was just cringe. It's like Trump thinks people should be impressed that a world leader spoke to him on the phone. Hello! You're the President of the United States. Of course other world leaders will speak to you on the phone. Stop fawning over them when they do so.

    It's so deeply lame and pathetic.

    He doesn't think Putin is an adversary of the United States.
    Even so - why would he not want to take up the role of mediator himself? Why is he so deferential towards Putin? It makes him look so weak.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 15,574

    I've been thinking about my attitude towards Trump, and it's interesting how it has changed.

    I'm disgusted by him and how he acts, that's a constant and a given, of course. And I'm still scared of what he might choose to do, or allow to be done in his name.

    The thing that has changed is that my dominant feeling is one of contempt for his weakness. His slogan is to "Make America Great Again" but in everything that he does he actually is making America weak. We see this today with him bigging up Putin as a mediator in the Israel/Iran war - way to go to make an adversary of America stronger and diplomatically more important! His social media message about Putin wishing him a happy birthday on the phone was just cringe. It's like Trump thinks people should be impressed that a world leader spoke to him on the phone. Hello! You're the President of the United States. Of course other world leaders will speak to you on the phone. Stop fawning over them when they do so.

    It's so deeply lame and pathetic.

    He doesn't think Putin is an adversary of the United States.
    Even so - why would he not want to take up the role of mediator himself? Why is he so deferential towards Putin? It makes him look so weak.
    It goes back decades.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 55,709

    I've been thinking about my attitude towards Trump, and it's interesting how it has changed.

    I'm disgusted by him and how he acts, that's a constant and a given, of course. And I'm still scared of what he might choose to do, or allow to be done in his name.

    The thing that has changed is that my dominant feeling is one of contempt for his weakness. His slogan is to "Make America Great Again" but in everything that he does he actually is making America weak. We see this today with him bigging up Putin as a mediator in the Israel/Iran war - way to go to make an adversary of America stronger and diplomatically more important! His social media message about Putin wishing him a happy birthday on the phone was just cringe. It's like Trump thinks people should be impressed that a world leader spoke to him on the phone. Hello! You're the President of the United States. Of course other world leaders will speak to you on the phone. Stop fawning over them when they do so.

    It's so deeply lame and pathetic.

    He doesn't think Putin is an adversary of the United States.
    Even so - why would he not want to take up the role of mediator himself? Why is he so deferential towards Putin? It makes him look so weak.
    How is that an example of defernce? Mediating between Iran and Israel would put Russia in an impossible position.
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 24,675
    dixiedean said:

    dixiedean said:

    HYUFD said:

    Morning PB.

    It's looking clear that the Israelis have got over-confident.

    Evening PB.

    It's looking clear that the Israelis have got total air superiority over Iran.

    Another Iranian leader dead. Israeli jets flying unimpeded in Iranian air space. Iran impotently lobbing a few missiles at civilian buildings while Israel degrades their military.

    Israel have the upper hand and will never have a better opportunity than this to push on, and push hard, and push fast.
    The son of the late Shah of Iran has been meeting Netanyahu and looks like being lined up to take over as head of state if the regime falls. Though Trump has vetoed an assassination attempt on the Ayatollah which could turn the situation into a conflagration
    A restored monarchy imposed by Israel sounds conflagration-y enough thanks.
    Why?
    Do I have to be a SEN Primary School teacher on here as well?
    Do you think that would be kind?
    How do you think some Iranian people might feel?
    Might they not like it and do something unkind?
    Some people dislike anything anyone does, doesn't mean its either wrong to do or conflagration-y.

    A restored monarchy would be a humongous improvement on what we have today for Iran.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 15,574

    Starmer is apparently multitasking by bringing some mail with him.

    https://x.com/keir_starmer/status/1934337211904000274

    Great to see you, @MarkJCarney.

    I’m here in Canada to deliver for Brits back home.

    Two absolute Z tier world leaders. Maybe we will get a trade deal for exciting low cost maple syrup and curling stones
    Z list Canada, a member of the G7 and with a life expectancy 4 years higher than its obese southern neighbour, has been somewhat more effective at standing up to and humiliating big baby Trump than most states. What’s your beef with Canada?
  • TimSTimS Posts: 15,574

    I've been thinking about my attitude towards Trump, and it's interesting how it has changed.

    I'm disgusted by him and how he acts, that's a constant and a given, of course. And I'm still scared of what he might choose to do, or allow to be done in his name.

    The thing that has changed is that my dominant feeling is one of contempt for his weakness. His slogan is to "Make America Great Again" but in everything that he does he actually is making America weak. We see this today with him bigging up Putin as a mediator in the Israel/Iran war - way to go to make an adversary of America stronger and diplomatically more important! His social media message about Putin wishing him a happy birthday on the phone was just cringe. It's like Trump thinks people should be impressed that a world leader spoke to him on the phone. Hello! You're the President of the United States. Of course other world leaders will speak to you on the phone. Stop fawning over them when they do so.

    It's so deeply lame and pathetic.

    He doesn't think Putin is an adversary of the United States.
    Even so - why would he not want to take up the role of mediator himself? Why is he so deferential towards Putin? It makes him look so weak.
    How is that an example of defernce? Mediating between Iran and Israel would put Russia in an impossible position.
    William, I’m sorry to say your friend Donald isn’t the 4D chess player you wish he was (but secretly know he isn’t). He’s out of his depth.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 61,832
    edited June 15
    Fascinating how the narrative is changing on migration. This is Mr Working Class Lefty, Terry Christian


    “My Socialist solution to immigration problems
    1. Nobody who has come into UK is allowed to buy a property or business until they have worked/proven to pay tax here for 5/10 years. Take all dirty money out of system. Why don't @reformparty_uk
    Do this if they care so much about working classes ( money laundering tax dodging toffs
    2. Immediate deportation to country of origin if imprisoned for any offence even if have family here - and no amnesty if disappearing abroad for 6/7 years to escape money laundering charges etc . Any properties associated confiscated/forced sale to pay costs .”

    https://x.com/terrychristian/status/1934217275835384029?s=46&t=bulOICNH15U6kB0MwE6Lfw

    It’s nonsense, but what’s interesting is that he’s talking about Remigration and Deportation, not just “restricting immigration”

    This is the new normal. I predict it will become normalised across the West
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 11,453
    TimS said:

    Starmer is apparently multitasking by bringing some mail with him.

    https://x.com/keir_starmer/status/1934337211904000274

    Great to see you, @MarkJCarney.

    I’m here in Canada to deliver for Brits back home.

    Two absolute Z tier world leaders. Maybe we will get a trade deal for exciting low cost maple syrup and curling stones
    Z list Canada, a member of the G7 and with a life expectancy 4 years higher than its obese southern neighbour, has been somewhat more effective at standing up to and humiliating big baby Trump than most states. What’s your beef with Canada?
    Carney is my beef with Canada. Useless turd.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 15,574

    dixiedean said:

    dixiedean said:

    HYUFD said:

    Morning PB.

    It's looking clear that the Israelis have got over-confident.

    Evening PB.

    It's looking clear that the Israelis have got total air superiority over Iran.

    Another Iranian leader dead. Israeli jets flying unimpeded in Iranian air space. Iran impotently lobbing a few missiles at civilian buildings while Israel degrades their military.

    Israel have the upper hand and will never have a better opportunity than this to push on, and push hard, and push fast.
    The son of the late Shah of Iran has been meeting Netanyahu and looks like being lined up to take over as head of state if the regime falls. Though Trump has vetoed an assassination attempt on the Ayatollah which could turn the situation into a conflagration
    A restored monarchy imposed by Israel sounds conflagration-y enough thanks.
    Why?
    Do I have to be a SEN Primary School teacher on here as well?
    Do you think that would be kind?
    How do you think some Iranian people might feel?
    Might they not like it and do something unkind?
    Some people dislike anything anyone does, doesn't mean its either wrong to do or conflagration-y.

    A restored monarchy would be a humongous improvement on what we have today for Iran.
    You’re channeling some of the imperial energy the neocons developed in the noughties when they thought they could bring back the Afghan King or their favoured Iraqi dissidents and the conquered people would say thank you. They didn’t say thank you. They got grumpy. Remaking the world is more complicated than that.

    Let the Iranians decide who they want in charge.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 19,335

    I've been thinking about my attitude towards Trump, and it's interesting how it has changed.

    I'm disgusted by him and how he acts, that's a constant and a given, of course. And I'm still scared of what he might choose to do, or allow to be done in his name.

    The thing that has changed is that my dominant feeling is one of contempt for his weakness. His slogan is to "Make America Great Again" but in everything that he does he actually is making America weak. We see this today with him bigging up Putin as a mediator in the Israel/Iran war - way to go to make an adversary of America stronger and diplomatically more important! His social media message about Putin wishing him a happy birthday on the phone was just cringe. It's like Trump thinks people should be impressed that a world leader spoke to him on the phone. Hello! You're the President of the United States. Of course other world leaders will speak to you on the phone. Stop fawning over them when they do so.

    It's so deeply lame and pathetic.

    He doesn't think Putin is an adversary of the United States.
    Even so - why would he not want to take up the role of mediator himself? Why is he so deferential towards Putin? It makes him look so weak.
    How is that an example of defernce? Mediating between Iran and Israel would put Russia in an impossible position.
    You need a new shtick. Pretending that Trump is some sort of political genius demeans you.
  • isamisam Posts: 42,007
    Leon said:

    Fascinating how the narrative is changing on migration. This is Mr Working Class Lefty, Terry Christian


    “My Socialist solution to immigration problems
    1. Nobody who has come into UK is allowed to buy a property or business until they have worked/proven to pay tax here for 5/10 years. Take all dirty money out of system. Why don't @reformparty_uk
    Do this if they care so much about working classes ( money laundering tax dodging toffs
    2. Immediate deportation to country of origin if imprisoned for any offence even if have family here - and no amnesty if disappearing abroad for 6/7 years to escape money laundering charges etc . Any properties associated confiscated/forced sale to pay costs .”

    https://x.com/terrychristian/status/1934217275835384029?s=46&t=bulOICNH15U6kB0MwE6Lfw

    It’s nonsense, but what’s interesting is that he’s talking about Remigration and Deportation, not just “restricting immigration”

    This is the new normal. I predict it will become normalised across the West

    Unfortunately “Prevention is better than a cure” was never so apt
  • TimSTimS Posts: 15,574

    TimS said:

    Starmer is apparently multitasking by bringing some mail with him.

    https://x.com/keir_starmer/status/1934337211904000274

    Great to see you, @MarkJCarney.

    I’m here in Canada to deliver for Brits back home.

    Two absolute Z tier world leaders. Maybe we will get a trade deal for exciting low cost maple syrup and curling stones
    Z list Canada, a member of the G7 and with a life expectancy 4 years higher than its obese southern neighbour, has been somewhat more effective at standing up to and humiliating big baby Trump than most states. What’s your beef with Canada?
    Carney is my beef with Canada. Useless turd.
    Canadians disagree.

    https://davidcoletto.substack.com/p/three-weeks-in-how-canadians-are
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 19,184
    Did we do Darren Jones and his blatant lies on QT?

    I’m really annoyed by this. Genuinely liked him since I first saw him. And genuinely hoped that Labour would be different. How labour attacked Johnson for lies! And yet here we are.

    No wonder people are turning their backs. They ARE all the same.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 55,709
    edited June 15
    Israel continues to gain the initiative.

    https://x.com/osinttechnical/status/1934374088988033130

    Increasing likelihood that, for the first time, Israel just disrupted an imminent Iranian ballistic missile attack.

    https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1934373273967480847

    The Israeli Air Force is preventing ballistic missile launches against Israel by Iran in real-time, according to i24News.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 11,453
    TimS said:

    TimS said:

    Starmer is apparently multitasking by bringing some mail with him.

    https://x.com/keir_starmer/status/1934337211904000274

    Great to see you, @MarkJCarney.

    I’m here in Canada to deliver for Brits back home.

    Two absolute Z tier world leaders. Maybe we will get a trade deal for exciting low cost maple syrup and curling stones
    Z list Canada, a member of the G7 and with a life expectancy 4 years higher than its obese southern neighbour, has been somewhat more effective at standing up to and humiliating big baby Trump than most states. What’s your beef with Canada?
    Carney is my beef with Canada. Useless turd.
    Canadians disagree.

    https://davidcoletto.substack.com/p/three-weeks-in-how-canadians-are
    Im not in the habit of changing my opinions based on what other people think. Thats their look out.
  • TresTres Posts: 2,874
    Leon said:

    Fascinating how the narrative is changing on migration. This is Mr Working Class Lefty, Terry Christian


    “My Socialist solution to immigration problems
    1. Nobody who has come into UK is allowed to buy a property or business until they have worked/proven to pay tax here for 5/10 years. Take all dirty money out of system. Why don't @reformparty_uk
    Do this if they care so much about working classes ( money laundering tax dodging toffs
    2. Immediate deportation to country of origin if imprisoned for any offence even if have family here - and no amnesty if disappearing abroad for 6/7 years to escape money laundering charges etc . Any properties associated confiscated/forced sale to pay costs .”

    https://x.com/terrychristian/status/1934217275835384029?s=46&t=bulOICNH15U6kB0MwE6Lfw

    It’s nonsense, but what’s interesting is that he’s talking about Remigration and Deportation, not just “restricting immigration”

    This is the new normal. I predict it will become normalised across the West

    what about tufty and dani behr?
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 38,911
    @Leon Vikings and Spartans are two of history’s most overrated groups.

    Even when slavery was thought normal, they were known to be especially vicious towards their slaves.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 55,709
    Leon said:

    Fascinating how the narrative is changing on migration. This is Mr Working Class Lefty, Terry Christian


    “My Socialist solution to immigration problems
    1. Nobody who has come into UK is allowed to buy a property or business until they have worked/proven to pay tax here for 5/10 years. Take all dirty money out of system. Why don't @reformparty_uk
    Do this if they care so much about working classes ( money laundering tax dodging toffs
    2. Immediate deportation to country of origin if imprisoned for any offence even if have family here - and no amnesty if disappearing abroad for 6/7 years to escape money laundering charges etc . Any properties associated confiscated/forced sale to pay costs .”

    https://x.com/terrychristian/status/1934217275835384029?s=46&t=bulOICNH15U6kB0MwE6Lfw

    It’s nonsense, but what’s interesting is that he’s talking about Remigration and Deportation, not just “restricting immigration”

    This is the new normal. I predict it will become normalised across the West

    The "Boriswave" moniker has been devastating for the traditional left-right framing of the issue.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 24,841
    Tres said:

    Leon said:

    Fascinating how the narrative is changing on migration. This is Mr Working Class Lefty, Terry Christian


    “My Socialist solution to immigration problems
    1. Nobody who has come into UK is allowed to buy a property or business until they have worked/proven to pay tax here for 5/10 years. Take all dirty money out of system. Why don't @reformparty_uk
    Do this if they care so much about working classes ( money laundering tax dodging toffs
    2. Immediate deportation to country of origin if imprisoned for any offence even if have family here - and no amnesty if disappearing abroad for 6/7 years to escape money laundering charges etc . Any properties associated confiscated/forced sale to pay costs .”

    https://x.com/terrychristian/status/1934217275835384029?s=46&t=bulOICNH15U6kB0MwE6Lfw

    It’s nonsense, but what’s interesting is that he’s talking about Remigration and Deportation, not just “restricting immigration”

    This is the new normal. I predict it will become normalised across the West

    what about tufty and dani behr?
    Hufty. Tufty was a squirrel
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,287

    OSINTtechnical
    @Osinttechnical
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    4m
    President Trump on Israel-Iran: “Sometimes you have to fight it out.”
  • LeonLeon Posts: 61,832


    OSINTtechnical
    @Osinttechnical
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    4m
    President Trump on Israel-Iran: “Sometimes you have to fight it out.”

    It would be awful if this war led to the leadership of both countries being eliminated. Just awful. Don’t know how I’d get over it. Probably need to have a cup of tea, before I felt better again
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 35,630
    Leon said:

    Fascinating how the narrative is changing on migration. This is Mr Working Class Lefty, Terry Christian


    “My Socialist solution to immigration problems
    1. Nobody who has come into UK is allowed to buy a property or business until they have worked/proven to pay tax here for 5/10 years. Take all dirty money out of system. Why don't @reformparty_uk
    Do this if they care so much about working classes ( money laundering tax dodging toffs
    2. Immediate deportation to country of origin if imprisoned for any offence even if have family here - and no amnesty if disappearing abroad for 6/7 years to escape money laundering charges etc . Any properties associated confiscated/forced sale to pay costs .”

    https://x.com/terrychristian/status/1934217275835384029?s=46&t=bulOICNH15U6kB0MwE6Lfw

    It’s nonsense, but what’s interesting is that he’s talking about Remigration and Deportation, not just “restricting immigration”

    This is the new normal. I predict it will become normalised across the West

    An amazing change of attitude from Terry. Wonder what brought it on.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 6,329
    Andy_JS said:

    Leon said:

    Fascinating how the narrative is changing on migration. This is Mr Working Class Lefty, Terry Christian


    “My Socialist solution to immigration problems
    1. Nobody who has come into UK is allowed to buy a property or business until they have worked/proven to pay tax here for 5/10 years. Take all dirty money out of system. Why don't @reformparty_uk
    Do this if they care so much about working classes ( money laundering tax dodging toffs
    2. Immediate deportation to country of origin if imprisoned for any offence even if have family here - and no amnesty if disappearing abroad for 6/7 years to escape money laundering charges etc . Any properties associated confiscated/forced sale to pay costs .”

    https://x.com/terrychristian/status/1934217275835384029?s=46&t=bulOICNH15U6kB0MwE6Lfw

    It’s nonsense, but what’s interesting is that he’s talking about Remigration and Deportation, not just “restricting immigration”

    This is the new normal. I predict it will become normalised across the West

    An amazing change of attitude from Terry. Wonder what brought it on.
    It's now possible to be anti-immigration without being seen as pro-Tory. And the latter is Terry's greatest fear.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,287
    Politics UK
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    🚨 NEW: Keir Starmer has appointed the first ever female MI6 chief, Blaise Metreweli CMG
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 14,536
    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    In rather more pleasant news, Hiromu Inada from Japan has just completed the Ironman 70.3 (*) Cairns in Australia.

    He's 92.

    (*) Half Ironman

    Yawn.

    Come back when he can finish a full one. He's had plenty of time to practice, so really there's no excuse.
    I've just told Mrs J that I've got forty years to practice before I attempt one... :)

    (I believe he's done full Ironman distances in the past, and holds the world record for oldest finisher. There's a fairly well-known photo of him failing one yeat at Kona: https://www.triathlete.com/culture/behind-the-photo-heartbreak-in-hawaii/ )
    Have you done any kind of triathalon? I'm tempted by a sprint one.
    I did my first one last year. I've done seven in total, with three so far this year (two sprints, one standard). However, I'm *slow*.

    But i love doing them. More accurately, I love the training. Do it - it's great fun. A sprint isn't too difficult at all, and even if you finish Dead Forking Last, you still beat all those who couldn't be bothered to get up and race.

    The people tend to be awesome and friendly as well.

    Oh, and it's a good excuse to get a new bike ... ;)
    My bike is currently bust for the stupidest reason. I was cycling along and then the bolt holding the seatpost in place sheared off, and the seat and seatpost dropped into the frame (with by 90kgs on it). The frame is now cracked.

    The bolt was over torqued, never more than 7Nm for a seat post bolt. Before your adventures in bike mechanics go any further get the proper tools, otherwise you're just pissing around.

    The Park torque wrench, in contrast with most of their other products, is garbage.

    This is the driver you need. It's good because it has presets and you're going to be doing lots of 5,6,7,8Nm fasteners on a bike.

    https://shop.snapon.com/product/TechAngle-Electronic-Torque-Screwdriver/1-4"-Hex-Electronic-Screwdriver-(Tool-Only)/ATECHMS80F

    This is the torque wrench you need.

    https://shop.snapon.com/product/TechAngle-Models-(2%-Accuracy)/1-4"-Drive-Flex-Head-TechAngle-Micro-Torque-Wrench-(15–300-in-lb)-(Red)/ATECH1FS300

    If you're doign a full bike build, then you'll need a vacuum bleeder to get the high and hard feel on the brakes. The Shimano bleed kit is rubbish. Any automotive bleeder will be way better and quicker. 3d print nipple adaptors as necessary.

    You'll also need a headset press and BB tool.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,579
    5 sec penalty for Norris (For Austria)

    Still lots of juicy decisions for the FIA to make about Canada.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 6,329
    Nicola Sturgeon set to move to England:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0r1de24pdgo
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 31,122
    Air India crash.

    ICYMI Captain Steeeve has changed his mind after seeing a better quality video and hearing the survivor's evidence. He now thinks there was a dual engine failure and not pilot error.

    Why the RAT Changes Everything – Air India 171 Update
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XYO-mj1ugg
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 35,630
    edited 1:11AM
    "A loss of engine power is emerging as the most likely cause of the crash of the Air India Boeing that killed at least 279 people at Ahmedabad on Thursday. The Boeing 787-8 series appeared to have suffered from lower than normal thrust from its General Electric GEnx engines as it took off and failed to climb more than 450ft before crashing, video and reports from the Indian authorities have indicated.The new information has eclipsed an early focus on the unusual configuration of the aircraft’s wing flaps and landing gear." (£)

    https://www.thetimes.com/world/asia/article/new-clues-point-to-engine-failure-for-cause-of-air-india-plane-crash-vhqw6b7v3
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 51,711
    Andy_JS said:

    "A loss of engine power is emerging as the most likely cause of the crash of the Air India Boeing that killed at least 279 people at Ahmedabad on Thursday. The Boeing 787-8 series appeared to have suffered from lower than normal thrust from its General Electric GEnx engines as it took off and failed to climb more than 450ft before crashing, video and reports from the Indian authorities have indicated.The new information has eclipsed an early focus on the unusual configuration of the aircraft’s wing flaps and landing gear." (£)

    https://www.thetimes.com/world/asia/article/new-clues-point-to-engine-failure-for-cause-of-air-india-plane-crash-vhqw6b7v3

    Starting to look a tad worrying for Boeing.

    As I remember from my pilot training, the engine test is one of the final procedures before take off. That will be in the black box, too.

    There is some worrying stuff circulating on the net about how the 787s have to be ‘reset’ every few months or they don’t operate properly; this sounds unlikely and is likely just internet nonsense.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,527
    IanB2 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "A loss of engine power is emerging as the most likely cause of the crash of the Air India Boeing that killed at least 279 people at Ahmedabad on Thursday. The Boeing 787-8 series appeared to have suffered from lower than normal thrust from its General Electric GEnx engines as it took off and failed to climb more than 450ft before crashing, video and reports from the Indian authorities have indicated.The new information has eclipsed an early focus on the unusual configuration of the aircraft’s wing flaps and landing gear." (£)

    https://www.thetimes.com/world/asia/article/new-clues-point-to-engine-failure-for-cause-of-air-india-plane-crash-vhqw6b7v3

    Starting to look a tad worrying for Boeing.

    As I remember from my pilot training, the engine test is one of the final procedures before take off. That will be in the black box, too.

    There is some worrying stuff circulating on the net about how the 787s have to be ‘reset’ every few months or they don’t operate properly; this sounds unlikely and is likely just internet nonsense.
    No, that one is true:

    https://www.theregister.com/2020/04/02/boeing_787_power_cycle_51_days_stale_data/

  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 78,275
    edited 5:01AM
    IanB2 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "A loss of engine power is emerging as the most likely cause of the crash of the Air India Boeing that killed at least 279 people at Ahmedabad on Thursday. The Boeing 787-8 series appeared to have suffered from lower than normal thrust from its General Electric GEnx engines as it took off and failed to climb more than 450ft before crashing, video and reports from the Indian authorities have indicated.The new information has eclipsed an early focus on the unusual configuration of the aircraft’s wing flaps and landing gear." (£)

    https://www.thetimes.com/world/asia/article/new-clues-point-to-engine-failure-for-cause-of-air-india-plane-crash-vhqw6b7v3

    Starting to look a tad worrying for Boeing.

    As I remember from my pilot training, the engine test is one of the final procedures before take off. That will be in the black box, too.

    There is some worrying stuff circulating on the net about how the 787s have to be ‘reset’ every few months or they don’t operate properly; this sounds unlikely and is likely just internet nonsense.
    Apparently not.

    FAA orders Boeing 787 safety fix: Reboot power once in a while

    https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/faa-orders-787-safety-fix-reboot-power-once-in-a-while/
    ...In an airworthiness directive to be published Friday, the FAA said it is reacting to indications that “all three flight control modules on the 787 might simultaneously reset if continuously powered on for 22 days.”

    It said such a simultaneous reset in flight “could result in flight control surfaces not moving in response to flight crew inputs for a short time and consequent temporary loss of controllability.”

    A person with knowledge of airline practices, speaking on condition of anonymity, said it is “extremely rare” for any operator to leave the jet powered on for longer than a week.

    In a statement, Boeing said the new rule mandates actions the jet maker has already recommended to 787 operators during the past two months.

    “Boeing recommended that operators cycle power to flight control modules periodically to ensure overlapping resets do not occur,” Boeing stated. “A permanent software fix is anticipated in the second quarter of 2017.”..


    I'm not clear whether a full fix was ever implemented.
    The limit is currently said to be 51 days.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 78,275
    Nigelb said:

    IanB2 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "A loss of engine power is emerging as the most likely cause of the crash of the Air India Boeing that killed at least 279 people at Ahmedabad on Thursday. The Boeing 787-8 series appeared to have suffered from lower than normal thrust from its General Electric GEnx engines as it took off and failed to climb more than 450ft before crashing, video and reports from the Indian authorities have indicated.The new information has eclipsed an early focus on the unusual configuration of the aircraft’s wing flaps and landing gear." (£)

    https://www.thetimes.com/world/asia/article/new-clues-point-to-engine-failure-for-cause-of-air-india-plane-crash-vhqw6b7v3

    Starting to look a tad worrying for Boeing.

    As I remember from my pilot training, the engine test is one of the final procedures before take off. That will be in the black box, too.

    There is some worrying stuff circulating on the net about how the 787s have to be ‘reset’ every few months or they don’t operate properly; this sounds unlikely and is likely just internet nonsense.
    Apparently not.

    FAA orders Boeing 787 safety fix: Reboot power once in a while

    https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/faa-orders-787-safety-fix-reboot-power-once-in-a-while/
    ...In an airworthiness directive to be published Friday, the FAA said it is reacting to indications that “all three flight control modules on the 787 might simultaneously reset if continuously powered on for 22 days.”

    It said such a simultaneous reset in flight “could result in flight control surfaces not moving in response to flight crew inputs for a short time and consequent temporary loss of controllability.”

    A person with knowledge of airline practices, speaking on condition of anonymity, said it is “extremely rare” for any operator to leave the jet powered on for longer than a week.

    In a statement, Boeing said the new rule mandates actions the jet maker has already recommended to 787 operators during the past two months.

    “Boeing recommended that operators cycle power to flight control modules periodically to ensure overlapping resets do not occur,” Boeing stated. “A permanent software fix is anticipated in the second quarter of 2017.”..


    I'm not clear whether a full fix was ever implemented.
    The limit is currently said to be 51 days.
    There's this from 2020.

    A Reverse Engineer’s Perspective on the Boeing 787 ‘51 days’ Airworthiness Directive
    https://ioactive.com/reverse-engineers-perspective-on-the-boeing-787-51-days-airworthiness-directive/
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 51,711
    RobD said:

    IanB2 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "A loss of engine power is emerging as the most likely cause of the crash of the Air India Boeing that killed at least 279 people at Ahmedabad on Thursday. The Boeing 787-8 series appeared to have suffered from lower than normal thrust from its General Electric GEnx engines as it took off and failed to climb more than 450ft before crashing, video and reports from the Indian authorities have indicated.The new information has eclipsed an early focus on the unusual configuration of the aircraft’s wing flaps and landing gear." (£)

    https://www.thetimes.com/world/asia/article/new-clues-point-to-engine-failure-for-cause-of-air-india-plane-crash-vhqw6b7v3

    Starting to look a tad worrying for Boeing.

    As I remember from my pilot training, the engine test is one of the final procedures before take off. That will be in the black box, too.

    There is some worrying stuff circulating on the net about how the 787s have to be ‘reset’ every few months or they don’t operate properly; this sounds unlikely and is likely just internet nonsense.
    No, that one is true:

    https://www.theregister.com/2020/04/02/boeing_787_power_cycle_51_days_stale_data/

    I think I will be looking for airlines with Airbuses in future!
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 78,275
    IanB2 said:

    RobD said:

    IanB2 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "A loss of engine power is emerging as the most likely cause of the crash of the Air India Boeing that killed at least 279 people at Ahmedabad on Thursday. The Boeing 787-8 series appeared to have suffered from lower than normal thrust from its General Electric GEnx engines as it took off and failed to climb more than 450ft before crashing, video and reports from the Indian authorities have indicated.The new information has eclipsed an early focus on the unusual configuration of the aircraft’s wing flaps and landing gear." (£)

    https://www.thetimes.com/world/asia/article/new-clues-point-to-engine-failure-for-cause-of-air-india-plane-crash-vhqw6b7v3

    Starting to look a tad worrying for Boeing.

    As I remember from my pilot training, the engine test is one of the final procedures before take off. That will be in the black box, too.

    There is some worrying stuff circulating on the net about how the 787s have to be ‘reset’ every few months or they don’t operate properly; this sounds unlikely and is likely just internet nonsense.
    No, that one is true:

    https://www.theregister.com/2020/04/02/boeing_787_power_cycle_51_days_stale_data/

    I think I will be looking for airlines with Airbuses in future!
    If this is something to do with the cause, then they might be subject to the same issue, as this is reported for at least one model
    https://www.theregister.com/AMP/2019/07/25/a350_power_cycle_software_bug_149_hours/

    Similarly to Boeing, they have a number of separate computers controlling separate systems, working together to control the aircraft.
    It's a synchronisation problem.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 31,122
    UK ‘woefully’ unprepared for Chinese and Russian undersea cable sabotage, says report
    CSRI finds China and Russia may be coordinating ‘grey zone’ tactics against vulnerable western infrastructure

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/jun/15/uk-woefully-ill-protected-against-chinese-and-russian-undersea-cable-sabotage
  • boulayboulay Posts: 6,274
    Leon said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Hey @Leon

    I was chatting with these folks today

    https://www.kalebcoopercontracting.co.uk/meat

    Their next big idea in "farm to fork" is to add What3Words to each pack, so you can see which field your pork chops grew up in

    Interesting. I do wonder if it is now - belatedly - gaining traction. The idea remains genius

    Today I was SCREAMING for the Faroese tourist board to use what3words

    They closed the main path to that massive slave cliff and all they could offer as an alternative was a 12 digit deeply obscure GPS reference which I got wrong and led me nowhere

    what3words would have led me to the precise spot in seconds
    There was a rescue here last week where some student had fallen down from a coastal cliff path and the Fire and Rescue person in the media said they found him quickly and easily because he gave them his W3W location.

    Otherwise they would have been searching in what was described as “challenging terrain” for ages as in thick undergrowth and wouldn’t be seen from land or sea.
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,867
    Im still laughing at the idea that somehow our public services will improve under Labour.

    Buckets of money thrown at them yes. Improvement ?. No.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,860
    The Minnesota assassin has been arrested
  • TazTaz Posts: 18,989

    Did we do Darren Jones and his blatant lies on QT?

    I’m really annoyed by this. Genuinely liked him since I first saw him. And genuinely hoped that Labour would be different. How labour attacked Johnson for lies! And yet here we are.

    No wonder people are turning their backs. They ARE all the same.

    Not only that the BBC (where’s verify when you need it) reported that he claimed he had said ‘that he had seen’ when he clearly didn’t. Poor journalism here.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yq1g0x404o

    https://x.com/archrose90/status/1933493589507518777?s=61
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,560
    Scott_xP said:

    The Minnesota assassin has been arrested

    Has he been pardoned yet?
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,873
    Nigelb said:

    IanB2 said:

    RobD said:

    IanB2 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "A loss of engine power is emerging as the most likely cause of the crash of the Air India Boeing that killed at least 279 people at Ahmedabad on Thursday. The Boeing 787-8 series appeared to have suffered from lower than normal thrust from its General Electric GEnx engines as it took off and failed to climb more than 450ft before crashing, video and reports from the Indian authorities have indicated.The new information has eclipsed an early focus on the unusual configuration of the aircraft’s wing flaps and landing gear." (£)

    https://www.thetimes.com/world/asia/article/new-clues-point-to-engine-failure-for-cause-of-air-india-plane-crash-vhqw6b7v3

    Starting to look a tad worrying for Boeing.

    As I remember from my pilot training, the engine test is one of the final procedures before take off. That will be in the black box, too.

    There is some worrying stuff circulating on the net about how the 787s have to be ‘reset’ every few months or they don’t operate properly; this sounds unlikely and is likely just internet nonsense.
    No, that one is true:

    https://www.theregister.com/2020/04/02/boeing_787_power_cycle_51_days_stale_data/

    I think I will be looking for airlines with Airbuses in future!
    If this is something to do with the cause, then they might be subject to the same issue, as this is reported for at least one model
    https://www.theregister.com/AMP/2019/07/25/a350_power_cycle_software_bug_149_hours/

    Similarly to Boeing, they have a number of separate computers controlling separate systems, working together to control the aircraft.
    It's a synchronisation problem.
    It sounds as though that was fixed in 2019, at the time it was reported:

    "The bug can be remedied with a software update that Airbus includes on newer A350-941s, and which can be applied to older versions of the aircraft as well. But it does require the plane to be taken out of service for maintenance and quality assurance testing, which would take longer to perform than a simple power cycle does."

    https://gizmodo.com/turn-it-off-and-on-again-every-149-hours-is-a-concernin-1836818094

    Boeing's issues have *not* been fixed.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,579
    IanB2 said:

    RobD said:

    IanB2 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "A loss of engine power is emerging as the most likely cause of the crash of the Air India Boeing that killed at least 279 people at Ahmedabad on Thursday. The Boeing 787-8 series appeared to have suffered from lower than normal thrust from its General Electric GEnx engines as it took off and failed to climb more than 450ft before crashing, video and reports from the Indian authorities have indicated.The new information has eclipsed an early focus on the unusual configuration of the aircraft’s wing flaps and landing gear." (£)

    https://www.thetimes.com/world/asia/article/new-clues-point-to-engine-failure-for-cause-of-air-india-plane-crash-vhqw6b7v3

    Starting to look a tad worrying for Boeing.

    As I remember from my pilot training, the engine test is one of the final procedures before take off. That will be in the black box, too.

    There is some worrying stuff circulating on the net about how the 787s have to be ‘reset’ every few months or they don’t operate properly; this sounds unlikely and is likely just internet nonsense.
    No, that one is true:

    https://www.theregister.com/2020/04/02/boeing_787_power_cycle_51_days_stale_data/

    I think I will be looking for airlines with Airbuses in future!
    "If it's Boring, I ain't going !"
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,560
    carnforth said:

    Nicola Sturgeon set to move to England:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0r1de24pdgo

    LOL. But exporting landfill to England because we have banned the disposal of it in Scotland is so ecologically demented that only the Scottish government could have come up with policies that make it necessary.
  • MonksfieldMonksfield Posts: 2,900
    isam said:

    Jesus, could Sir Keir be any more blatantly apeing Farage???

    Fantastic to find a British pint in Ottawa.

    Meeting Brits abroad, while delivering for people back home.


    https://x.com/keir_starmer/status/1934159828005585345?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    Saint Nigel of Olde Albion doesn’t have a monopoly on love of beer. To be honest I’ve always found his beer thing a bit fake. He looks more like a champers drinker.
  • isam said:

    Jesus, could Sir Keir be any more blatantly apeing Farage???

    Fantastic to find a British pint in Ottawa.

    Meeting Brits abroad, while delivering for people back home.


    https://x.com/keir_starmer/status/1934159828005585345?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    Saint Nigel of Olde Albion doesn’t have a monopoly on love of beer. To be honest I’ve always found his beer thing a bit fake. He looks more like a champers drinker.
    Exactly: aping his faked love of beer.
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 1,143

    Im still laughing at the idea that somehow our public services will improve under Labour.

    Buckets of money thrown at them yes. Improvement ?. No.

    Waiting lists falling is an improvement.
    More interesting is that although Reform is polling 30%, only 17% think they'll improve public services. Which means 40% of Reform voters are connected to reality. Presumably those are the Conservative switchers voting for a party that'll make public services worse.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 14,734
    HYUFD said:

    dixiedean said:

    HYUFD said:

    Morning PB.

    It's looking clear that the Israelis have got over-confident.

    Evening PB.

    It's looking clear that the Israelis have got total air superiority over Iran.

    Another Iranian leader dead. Israeli jets flying unimpeded in Iranian air space. Iran impotently lobbing a few missiles at civilian buildings while Israel degrades their military.

    Israel have the upper hand and will never have a better opportunity than this to push on, and push hard, and push fast.
    The son of the late Shah of Iran has been meeting Netanyahu and looks like being lined up to take over as head of state if the regime falls. Though Trump has vetoed an assassination attempt on the Ayatollah which could turn the situation into a conflagration
    A restored monarchy imposed by Israel sounds conflagration-y enough thanks.
    Why?
    Iran was a relatively wealthy and free nation compared to now when the last Shah was removed by the Iranian Revolution yes
    Well, the Shah and his relatives became very wealthy…
  • TazTaz Posts: 18,989
    We take the bus, Starmer takes a helicopter.

    Peston really is a dick here. Our PM, visiting a foreign nation, of course he’s not going to get a bus and security will be paramount.

    https://x.com/peston/status/1934361541744169002?s=61
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 24,675

    HYUFD said:

    dixiedean said:

    HYUFD said:

    Morning PB.

    It's looking clear that the Israelis have got over-confident.

    Evening PB.

    It's looking clear that the Israelis have got total air superiority over Iran.

    Another Iranian leader dead. Israeli jets flying unimpeded in Iranian air space. Iran impotently lobbing a few missiles at civilian buildings while Israel degrades their military.

    Israel have the upper hand and will never have a better opportunity than this to push on, and push hard, and push fast.
    The son of the late Shah of Iran has been meeting Netanyahu and looks like being lined up to take over as head of state if the regime falls. Though Trump has vetoed an assassination attempt on the Ayatollah which could turn the situation into a conflagration
    A restored monarchy imposed by Israel sounds conflagration-y enough thanks.
    Why?
    Iran was a relatively wealthy and free nation compared to now when the last Shah was removed by the Iranian Revolution yes
    Well, the Shah and his relatives became very wealthy…
    LOL why am I not surprised to see this, from you.

    Were ordinary Iranians, especially women, better off and more free under the Shah or under the Mullahs?

    Especially relative to global development standards at the time.
  • TazTaz Posts: 18,989

    isam said:

    Jesus, could Sir Keir be any more blatantly apeing Farage???

    Fantastic to find a British pint in Ottawa.

    Meeting Brits abroad, while delivering for people back home.


    https://x.com/keir_starmer/status/1934159828005585345?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    Saint Nigel of Olde Albion doesn’t have a monopoly on love of beer. To be honest I’ve always found his beer thing a bit fake. He looks more like a champers drinker.
    Exactly: aping his faked love of beer.
    Oh I disagree, I think he does genuinely like beer. That doesn’t mean it is not exaggerated or used for political advantage.

    But why not. He wouldn’t be the first to do that nor the last.

    Same with Starmer and soccer. He clearly is a genuine Arsenal fan, another trophyless season for the losers, but sometimes comes off a little contrived with it.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,341

    NEW THREAD

  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,873
    Taz said:

    We take the bus, Starmer takes a helicopter.

    Peston really is a dick here. Our PM, visiting a foreign nation, of course he’s not going to get a bus and security will be paramount.

    https://x.com/peston/status/1934361541744169002?s=61

    Whilst I agree, lots of people complained about Sunak's use of helicopters in the UK. I didn't; it might just be the best way for a busy PM to get around.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 14,734

    HYUFD said:

    dixiedean said:

    HYUFD said:

    Morning PB.

    It's looking clear that the Israelis have got over-confident.

    Evening PB.

    It's looking clear that the Israelis have got total air superiority over Iran.

    Another Iranian leader dead. Israeli jets flying unimpeded in Iranian air space. Iran impotently lobbing a few missiles at civilian buildings while Israel degrades their military.

    Israel have the upper hand and will never have a better opportunity than this to push on, and push hard, and push fast.
    The son of the late Shah of Iran has been meeting Netanyahu and looks like being lined up to take over as head of state if the regime falls. Though Trump has vetoed an assassination attempt on the Ayatollah which could turn the situation into a conflagration
    A restored monarchy imposed by Israel sounds conflagration-y enough thanks.
    Why?
    Iran was a relatively wealthy and free nation compared to now when the last Shah was removed by the Iranian Revolution yes
    Well, the Shah and his relatives became very wealthy…
    LOL why am I not surprised to see this, from you.

    Were ordinary Iranians, especially women, better off and more free under the Shah or under the Mullahs?

    Especially relative to global development standards at the time.
    There was a revolution in Iran because the Shah was corrupt and the SAVAK, the secret police, so brutal. But the revolution made things worse, as revolutions often do, contrary to your chaos theory.
  • TazTaz Posts: 18,989

    Taz said:

    We take the bus, Starmer takes a helicopter.

    Peston really is a dick here. Our PM, visiting a foreign nation, of course he’s not going to get a bus and security will be paramount.

    https://x.com/peston/status/1934361541744169002?s=61

    Whilst I agree, lots of people complained about Sunak's use of helicopters in the UK. I didn't; it might just be the best way for a busy PM to get around.
    Yes, I wasn’t one of them.

    Many in Labour too as he was a rich guy, seen to be poncing off the poor.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,873
    I just looked at Terry Christian's twix page. I know some people get triggered by people putting their pronouns on their page headers; more ridiculous is people putting their football team allegiance on it... :)
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 51,711
    Nigelb said:

    IanB2 said:

    RobD said:

    IanB2 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "A loss of engine power is emerging as the most likely cause of the crash of the Air India Boeing that killed at least 279 people at Ahmedabad on Thursday. The Boeing 787-8 series appeared to have suffered from lower than normal thrust from its General Electric GEnx engines as it took off and failed to climb more than 450ft before crashing, video and reports from the Indian authorities have indicated.The new information has eclipsed an early focus on the unusual configuration of the aircraft’s wing flaps and landing gear." (£)

    https://www.thetimes.com/world/asia/article/new-clues-point-to-engine-failure-for-cause-of-air-india-plane-crash-vhqw6b7v3

    Starting to look a tad worrying for Boeing.

    As I remember from my pilot training, the engine test is one of the final procedures before take off. That will be in the black box, too.

    There is some worrying stuff circulating on the net about how the 787s have to be ‘reset’ every few months or they don’t operate properly; this sounds unlikely and is likely just internet nonsense.
    No, that one is true:

    https://www.theregister.com/2020/04/02/boeing_787_power_cycle_51_days_stale_data/

    I think I will be looking for airlines with Airbuses in future!
    If this is something to do with the cause, then they might be subject to the same issue, as this is reported for at least one model
    https://www.theregister.com/AMP/2019/07/25/a350_power_cycle_software_bug_149_hours/

    Similarly to Boeing, they have a number of separate computers controlling separate systems, working together to control the aircraft.
    It's a synchronisation problem.
    There is something distinctly unsettling about plans where the computers only continue working properly if someone remembers to turn them off and on again every month or two.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 51,711

    Taz said:

    We take the bus, Starmer takes a helicopter.

    Peston really is a dick here. Our PM, visiting a foreign nation, of course he’s not going to get a bus and security will be paramount.

    https://x.com/peston/status/1934361541744169002?s=61

    Whilst I agree, lots of people complained about Sunak's use of helicopters in the UK. I didn't; it might just be the best way for a busy PM to get around.
    If you've ever been driving and held in traffic so that some government minister can speed by, accompanied by a string of officials in black cars and a posse of police motorcycles, we're probably better off with them up in the air.
  • CiceroCicero Posts: 3,544
    RobD said:

    IanB2 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "A loss of engine power is emerging as the most likely cause of the crash of the Air India Boeing that killed at least 279 people at Ahmedabad on Thursday. The Boeing 787-8 series appeared to have suffered from lower than normal thrust from its General Electric GEnx engines as it took off and failed to climb more than 450ft before crashing, video and reports from the Indian authorities have indicated.The new information has eclipsed an early focus on the unusual configuration of the aircraft’s wing flaps and landing gear." (£)

    https://www.thetimes.com/world/asia/article/new-clues-point-to-engine-failure-for-cause-of-air-india-plane-crash-vhqw6b7v3

    Starting to look a tad worrying for Boeing.

    As I remember from my pilot training, the engine test is one of the final procedures before take off. That will be in the black box, too.

    There is some worrying stuff circulating on the net about how the 787s have to be ‘reset’ every few months or they don’t operate properly; this sounds unlikely and is likely just internet nonsense.
    No, that one is true:

    https://www.theregister.com/2020/04/02/boeing_787_power_cycle_51_days_stale_data/

    Well, switching off and then switching on again is the best way to deal with many faults... tricky to do at 600 feet, however.

    Boeing´s "closeness" to the FAA seems to have led to another plane emerging with significant design flaws. The B787 has had consistent problems with its electrical systems, including control systems, since launch in 2011, as the B737Max also did some years ago with its cockpit control systems.

    The implications for both Boeing and the FAA could end up being crippling. Regulatory capture has been talked of for some time now, and clearly this needs to be brought into the open if trust in Boeing is to be restored. Much was done after the B737Max fiasco, seems like more work is needed.

    God rest the souls of the departed.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 19,335
    edited 6:34AM
    IanB2 said:

    Nigelb said:

    IanB2 said:

    RobD said:

    IanB2 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "A loss of engine power is emerging as the most likely cause of the crash of the Air India Boeing that killed at least 279 people at Ahmedabad on Thursday. The Boeing 787-8 series appeared to have suffered from lower than normal thrust from its General Electric GEnx engines as it took off and failed to climb more than 450ft before crashing, video and reports from the Indian authorities have indicated.The new information has eclipsed an early focus on the unusual configuration of the aircraft’s wing flaps and landing gear." (£)

    https://www.thetimes.com/world/asia/article/new-clues-point-to-engine-failure-for-cause-of-air-india-plane-crash-vhqw6b7v3

    Starting to look a tad worrying for Boeing.

    As I remember from my pilot training, the engine test is one of the final procedures before take off. That will be in the black box, too.

    There is some worrying stuff circulating on the net about how the 787s have to be ‘reset’ every few months or they don’t operate properly; this sounds unlikely and is likely just internet nonsense.
    No, that one is true:

    https://www.theregister.com/2020/04/02/boeing_787_power_cycle_51_days_stale_data/

    I think I will be looking for airlines with Airbuses in future!
    If this is something to do with the cause, then they might be subject to the same issue, as this is reported for at least one model
    https://www.theregister.com/AMP/2019/07/25/a350_power_cycle_software_bug_149_hours/

    Similarly to Boeing, they have a number of separate computers controlling separate systems, working together to control the aircraft.
    It's a synchronisation problem.
    There is something distinctly unsettling about plan[e]s where the computers only continue working properly if someone remembers to turn them off and on again every month or two.
    I don't know. As someone who works professionally with computers, I'm a little bit horrified that the computers on planes aren't turned off and on again daily.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,873
    IanB2 said:

    Taz said:

    We take the bus, Starmer takes a helicopter.

    Peston really is a dick here. Our PM, visiting a foreign nation, of course he’s not going to get a bus and security will be paramount.

    https://x.com/peston/status/1934361541744169002?s=61

    Whilst I agree, lots of people complained about Sunak's use of helicopters in the UK. I didn't; it might just be the best way for a busy PM to get around.
    If you've ever been driving and held in traffic so that some government minister can speed by, accompanied by a string of officials in black cars and a posse of police motorcycles, we're probably better off with them up in the air.
    Apparently having senior politicians travel by rail is a real headache for the railways, who have to try to liaise with their security whilst the politician pretends to be with the hoi polloi. Whereas railwaymen quite like the Royal Train, as their is a great deal of kudos attached to it.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,873

    IanB2 said:

    Nigelb said:

    IanB2 said:

    RobD said:

    IanB2 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "A loss of engine power is emerging as the most likely cause of the crash of the Air India Boeing that killed at least 279 people at Ahmedabad on Thursday. The Boeing 787-8 series appeared to have suffered from lower than normal thrust from its General Electric GEnx engines as it took off and failed to climb more than 450ft before crashing, video and reports from the Indian authorities have indicated.The new information has eclipsed an early focus on the unusual configuration of the aircraft’s wing flaps and landing gear." (£)

    https://www.thetimes.com/world/asia/article/new-clues-point-to-engine-failure-for-cause-of-air-india-plane-crash-vhqw6b7v3

    Starting to look a tad worrying for Boeing.

    As I remember from my pilot training, the engine test is one of the final procedures before take off. That will be in the black box, too.

    There is some worrying stuff circulating on the net about how the 787s have to be ‘reset’ every few months or they don’t operate properly; this sounds unlikely and is likely just internet nonsense.
    No, that one is true:

    https://www.theregister.com/2020/04/02/boeing_787_power_cycle_51_days_stale_data/

    I think I will be looking for airlines with Airbuses in future!
    If this is something to do with the cause, then they might be subject to the same issue, as this is reported for at least one model
    https://www.theregister.com/AMP/2019/07/25/a350_power_cycle_software_bug_149_hours/

    Similarly to Boeing, they have a number of separate computers controlling separate systems, working together to control the aircraft.
    It's a synchronisation problem.
    There is something distinctly unsettling about plan[e]s where the computers only continue working properly if someone remembers to turn them off and on again every month or two.
    I don't know. As someone who works professionally with computers, I'm a little bit horrified that the computers on planes aren't turned off and on again daily.
    Then there'd just be a power-cycling bug, where some vital bit of NVRAM gets corrupted if it is powered on and off too often, or with too short a gap between the power being off and on.

    (And yes, I've seen, and fixed, exactly that sort of bug...)
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,583
    edited 8:53AM

    IanB2 said:

    Nigelb said:

    IanB2 said:

    RobD said:

    IanB2 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "A loss of engine power is emerging as the most likely cause of the crash of the Air India Boeing that killed at least 279 people at Ahmedabad on Thursday. The Boeing 787-8 series appeared to have suffered from lower than normal thrust from its General Electric GEnx engines as it took off and failed to climb more than 450ft before crashing, video and reports from the Indian authorities have indicated.The new information has eclipsed an early focus on the unusual configuration of the aircraft’s wing flaps and landing gear." (£)

    https://www.thetimes.com/world/asia/article/new-clues-point-to-engine-failure-for-cause-of-air-india-plane-crash-vhqw6b7v3

    Starting to look a tad worrying for Boeing.

    As I remember from my pilot training, the engine test is one of the final procedures before take off. That will be in the black box, too.

    There is some worrying stuff circulating on the net about how the 787s have to be ‘reset’ every few months or they don’t operate properly; this sounds unlikely and is likely just internet nonsense.
    No, that one is true:

    https://www.theregister.com/2020/04/02/boeing_787_power_cycle_51_days_stale_data/

    I think I will be looking for airlines with Airbuses in future!
    If this is something to do with the cause, then they might be subject to the same issue, as this is reported for at least one model
    https://www.theregister.com/AMP/2019/07/25/a350_power_cycle_software_bug_149_hours/

    Similarly to Boeing, they have a number of separate computers controlling separate systems, working together to control the aircraft.
    It's a synchronisation problem.
    There is something distinctly unsettling about plan[e]s where the computers only continue working properly if someone remembers to turn them off and on again every month or two.
    I don't know. As someone who works professionally with computers, I'm a little bit horrified that the computers on planes aren't turned off and on again daily.
    Then there'd just be a power-cycling bug, where some vital bit of NVRAM gets corrupted if it is powered on and off too often, or with too short a gap between the power being off and on.

    (And yes, I've seen, and fixed, exactly that sort of bug...)
    Still, all planes will be flown by AI soon. Nothing to worry about, nothing at all...
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