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  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,861
    rcs1000 said:

    MaxPB said:

    Iran has enough enriched uranium to make 50 nuclear bombs, and there is intelligence to show it was planning to weaponise it, Israel said.

    Don't Panic Mr Mainwaring, Don't Panic.....

    The IAEA say enough for 9.
    9 or 50 doesn't matter, one is one too many. We cannot allow a Iran to have nukes. It's a one way ticket to Israel's total destruction.
    While I agree with the sentiment, I don't think that's realistically possible. We can slow them down, sure. But short of either (a) a full scale invasion, or (b) regime change, then they will continue to walk down the path.

    A nuclear bomb is ultimately nothing more than a suitably large amount of enriched uranium, and a shaped charge. The charge used to be precision engineering. Now it is childs play.

    It is the enrichment that is the difficult bit - hence Stuxnet hitting the Iranian centrifuges. But while the pace of Iran obtaining fissionable material has been slow, every year they've managed to get a little more. And I don't see how (short of a or b above) we are going to be able to remove existing enriched uranium from them. It will be somewhere extremely secure, under a mountain or equivalent.

    I suspect it will be easier to limit Iran's ability to produce a delivery device. Because a bomb on its own is not that useful without a way of getting it to one's target.
    Doesn't weapons-grade fissile material have a limited shelflife, and require reprocessing every couple of decades or so? (Separate from the tritium issue.) So if you stop the reprocessing and the initial enrichment, the amount of usable stockpiled material would go down?
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 4,912

    ohnotnow said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Cookie said:

    Pulpstar said:

    The ban on discussions about the grooming story is still in place. People have been told enough times, given how past discussions have turned into a mess that potentially puts PB at risk.

    That is a risk we are not prepared to take now particularly when the Online Safety Act is now in place.

    The alternative is closing PB down as OGH made clear.

    The spam trap automatically bans people when certain words are used.

    Online safety act is probably the worst bit of legislation ever made here
    To be fair, the issue is a couple of posters who turned discussions of such matters into the Turner Diaries.

    Actual sane people discussing the legal and moral issues - a @Cyclefree header, for example - weren’t the problem.
    I also think this is going to become a position that is more and more difficult to hold as the rest of the media is filled with news of the Enquiry. Fully understand the current concerns by TSE and OGH but I think something will eventually have to give.
    I am hopeful that we can discuss it again in the future but enjoin some posters from commenting upon the story.

    But that day isn't today.
    If this really is the case - that the OSB has made it effectively illegal to discuss certain topics online - this seems remarkable. This needs rather more attention than it has been given
    What was the name of the previous bill which had a similar outcome, early-ish internet days? I remember a fair few forums closing down as they couldn't take the risk back in the early/mid 2000s.

    ChatGPT tells me it was the existing plaintiff-friendly laws and the Defamation Act 1996.

    ---

    UK Libel Law (Pre-2013)

    UK defamation law was notoriously plaintiff-friendly before 2013.
    Forum owners and ISPs could be held liable for defamatory content posted by users, even if they didn’t create it.
    There was no strong "safe harbour" like in the US’s Section 230 — so if someone posted something defamatory on your forum, you could be sued for it as a publisher, unless you acted quickly to remove it.

    Key Pressures on Forums:

    Many small UK-based forums and online communities began shutting down in the early-to-mid 2000s out of fear of being sued for user comments.
    Moderation wasn't always practical or effective at scale, especially without resources or legal know-how.
    Legal threats (and actual lawsuits) were sometimes made by individuals or companies against forums for posts by users.

    Timeline Context:

    This was during the rise of early user-generated content: forums, blogs, early social media, etc.
    The Godfrey v Demon Internet (2001) case reinforced that ISPs could be liable if they didn’t remove defamatory content after being notified — and this logic applied to forum operators too.
    Things didn't start to shift until the Defamation Act 2013, which introduced some protections for website operators.
    Just an FYI,

    Because the Vanilla spam trap is a bit of a blunt tool, posting lots of AI generated chat can also lead to issues.
    Lordy.
    It shouldn't be a problem with a one off.

    Amusingly the Vanilla AI tries to work out if a poster is an AI spambot.
    I have an 'AI' bot that tries to spot if job applicants used 'AI'. Someone is making an awful lot of cash on all this...
  • MattWMattW Posts: 27,775
    Taz said:

    carnforth said:

    "Israel did not inform the UK Government before striking Iran, as they consider the Labour Government 'unreliable'"- The Times

    Translation: "We don't like people criticizing our genocide!"
    But they’ll be happy for us to use our air force to help defend them.

    We are such mugs.
    Do we have anything supporting the idea that we may assist them, rather than be simply protecting our own interests in the region?

    It's hardly a surprise that Netanyahu's Govt should not communicate with us; are we not supporting (or at least, not opposing an investigation into his criminality by the ICC? From his assaults on the ICC, these are the ones President Chump is cross about.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 19,323

    carnforth said:

    In CASH news I had someone in our shop try to pay for an 80p purchase on a card.

    Erm, no.

    A few of us village businesses now asking punters to please use cash where they can, and I'm back carrying a wallet and actual fiat tokens after a few years of not bothering.

    EDIT - sorry, banhammer fears

    C*SH

    I went to a bank to close a mortgage-registered savings account last week and asked for a cheque for the closing balance. The member of bank staff said something along the lines of, "if the balance is only €1,000 and a bit it's not worth the trouble of making a cheque for it. Sure we'll just give it to you in cash." And so I walked around with €1,500 in cash for the rest of the day.

    Ireland. It's a foreign country.
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ahern-defends-having-no-bank-account-1.993441

    "Mr O'Neill asked Mr Ahern if it was not an "unusual approach to one's finances".

    "I didn't consider it unusual, quite frankly, then or now," Mr Ahern said. "Ordinary people, Mr O'Neill, go into pubs and cash their wages cheques . . . it's not extraordinary."

    "But . . . you were the minister for finance at the time," Mr O'Neill said."
    Not enough data to market to and control and observe.... does not compute
    The mortgage broker did tell us at one point that we were saving too much money, and it would look suspicious to the bank. They'd wonder what money we were living off, and what we were hiding from them.

    I wouldn't be surprised if some cash buyers of houses in Ireland are literally cash buyers still.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 54,561
    rcs1000 said:

    Yokes said:

    The most significant pieces of news so far today on the Israel vs Iran front.

    1. The reported airstrikes on Iranian gas and oil facilities. Israel communicated to Iran to not target civilian population centres or see their energy infrastructure be attacked in return. The assumption is after the hits on Israeli residential locations, Israel was sending the signal.

    2. Israeli boasts that their aircraft will be seen over Tehran soon. That will look ugly if they do it. Everything from the air so far has been reportedly stand off using Syrian and iraqi airspace with minimal activity in Iranian airspace.

    3. Very little info on material damage from Iran. The IAEA info is probably the most useful on damage to nuclear related facilities but that is not all Israelis are hitting. The Internet has been shut off for damage control, limiting target location info tracking and to try to hide signs of reply.

    In fact, Israel hasn't exactly released tons of images either.

    4. Few signs of Iranian ground or air based defence. It does exist but hasn't merely missed, it hasn't fired a lot of shots.

    Iranian has promised a sizeable response tonight, let's see if they do.

    I don't think Iran has the ability to precision target anything smaller than "in the general viscinity of Israel".
    Israel 20,700 sq.km.
    Arab League nations combined area 13,000,000 sq. km. (approx).
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 14,658
    carnforth said:

    In CASH news I had someone in our shop try to pay for an 80p purchase on a card.

    Erm, no.

    A few of us village businesses now asking punters to please use cash where they can, and I'm back carrying a wallet and actual fiat tokens after a few years of not bothering.

    EDIT - sorry, banhammer fears

    C*SH

    I went to a bank to close a mortgage-registered savings account last week and asked for a cheque for the closing balance. The member of bank staff said something along the lines of, "if the balance is only €1,000 and a bit it's not worth the trouble of making a cheque for it. Sure we'll just give it to you in cash." And so I walked around with €1,500 in cash for the rest of the day.

    Ireland. It's a foreign country.
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ahern-defends-having-no-bank-account-1.993441

    "Mr O'Neill asked Mr Ahern if it was not an "unusual approach to one's finances".

    "I didn't consider it unusual, quite frankly, then or now," Mr Ahern said. "Ordinary people, Mr O'Neill, go into pubs and cash their wages cheques . . . it's not extraordinary."

    "But . . . you were the minister for finance at the time," Mr O'Neill said."
    On 15th June 1661 Pepys walked home from a banker taking £300 with him because of a particular transaction he was responsible for; the value of that in todays money is nearly £50,000.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 11,376

    carnforth said:

    In CASH news I had someone in our shop try to pay for an 80p purchase on a card.

    Erm, no.

    A few of us village businesses now asking punters to please use cash where they can, and I'm back carrying a wallet and actual fiat tokens after a few years of not bothering.

    EDIT - sorry, banhammer fears

    C*SH

    I went to a bank to close a mortgage-registered savings account last week and asked for a cheque for the closing balance. The member of bank staff said something along the lines of, "if the balance is only €1,000 and a bit it's not worth the trouble of making a cheque for it. Sure we'll just give it to you in cash." And so I walked around with €1,500 in cash for the rest of the day.

    Ireland. It's a foreign country.
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ahern-defends-having-no-bank-account-1.993441

    "Mr O'Neill asked Mr Ahern if it was not an "unusual approach to one's finances".

    "I didn't consider it unusual, quite frankly, then or now," Mr Ahern said. "Ordinary people, Mr O'Neill, go into pubs and cash their wages cheques . . . it's not extraordinary."

    "But . . . you were the minister for finance at the time," Mr O'Neill said."
    Not enough data to market to and control and observe.... does not compute
    The mortgage broker did tell us at one point that we were saving too much money, and it would look suspicious to the bank. They'd wonder what money we were living off, and what we were hiding from them.

    I wouldn't be surprised if some cash buyers of houses in Ireland are literally cash buyers still.
    They need to go back to being banks and not coppers narks
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 55,057
    Cookie said:

    Pulpstar said:

    The ban on discussions about the grooming story is still in place. People have been told enough times, given how past discussions have turned into a mess that potentially puts PB at risk.

    That is a risk we are not prepared to take now particularly when the Online Safety Act is now in place.

    The alternative is closing PB down as OGH made clear.

    The spam trap automatically bans people when certain words are used.

    Online safety act is probably the worst bit of legislation ever made here
    To be fair, the issue is a couple of posters who turned discussions of such matters into the Turner Diaries.

    Actual sane people discussing the legal and moral issues - a @Cyclefree header, for example - weren’t the problem.
    I also think this is going to become a position that is more and more difficult to hold as the rest of the media is filled with news of the Enquiry. Fully understand the current concerns by TSE and OGH but I think something will eventually have to give.
    I am hopeful that we can discuss it again in the future but enjoin some posters from commenting upon the story.

    But that day isn't today.
    If this really is the case - that the OSB has made it effectively illegal to discuss certain topics online - this seems remarkable. This needs rather more attention than it has been given
    Attention! Citizen!

    You have been fined one credit under the Verbal Morality Statute.

    Signed - The San Angles Police Department.

    We Will ProtectServe You!

    https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0106697/
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,550

    If @Cyclefree reads here, just to say I don't really believe in any cancer being incurable. I have no doubt that people in your position have been fully and completely cured and their health restored, and I suspect their stories and protocols are online if one goes searching.

    Doctors aren't there to restore your health, they are there to recommend whatever the conventional drugs or surgeries are for your condition, and allocate it according to a formula. Your health is in your hands.

    I applaud your approach to life though - that's what we should all be doing.

    I 100% disagree with this post. It’s unscientific nonsense and a slur on the medical profession. Sadly some cancers are incurable with what we have now. Anyone promoting non medical approaches is generally a charlatan, and there will be zero evidence to back up the claims.
    As Tim Minchin explains in Storm

    "Alternative medicine is either something that has not been proven to work or proven not to work.
    Do you know what they call alternative medicine which has been proven to work?
    Medicine."
  • Jim_MillerJim_Miller Posts: 3,348
    Thanks to Cyclefree for that update, and I hope the treatment works enough to control the cancer.

    Recently, I was reminded of her, thinking about an old saying: The perfect situation for a man was an English education, an American salary -- and a Japanese wife. We men don't think as often as we should about the Japanese wife's perspective.

    (If you happen to know who said that first, please let us know.)
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 11,376
    Haifa appears to be getting peppered by this barrage of missiles
  • kjhkjh Posts: 12,717
    edited June 14

    kjh said:

    I have just noticed that @Big_G_NorthWales has been banned. How the hell did that happen? I can't imagine Big G doing anything to get banned.

    How do you "notice" that someone has been banned?
    @SquareRoot their avatar is changed to a banned avatar. So for instance I can see you are not.

    Anyway he seems to be back so I assume it was a glitch.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 27,775
    rcs1000 said:

    MaxPB said:

    Iran has enough enriched uranium to make 50 nuclear bombs, and there is intelligence to show it was planning to weaponise it, Israel said.

    Don't Panic Mr Mainwaring, Don't Panic.....

    The IAEA say enough for 9.
    9 or 50 doesn't matter, one is one too many. We cannot allow a Iran to have nukes. It's a one way ticket to Israel's total destruction.
    While I agree with the sentiment, I don't think that's realistically possible. We can slow them down, sure. But short of either (a) a full scale invasion, or (b) regime change, then they will continue to walk down the path.

    A nuclear bomb is ultimately nothing more than a suitably large amount of enriched uranium, and a shaped charge. The charge used to be precision engineering. Now it is childs play.

    It is the enrichment that is the difficult bit - hence Stuxnet hitting the Iranian centrifuges. But while the pace of Iran obtaining fissionable material has been slow, every year they've managed to get a little more. And I don't see how (short of a or b above) we are going to be able to remove existing enriched uranium from them. It will be somewhere extremely secure, under a mountain or equivalent.

    I suspect it will be easier to limit Iran's ability to produce a delivery device. Because a bomb on its own is not that useful without a way of getting it to one's target.
    I don't see why regime change would cause Iran to lose interest in nuclear weapons; the world is still as uncertain for them as it was before. IIRC it was President Trump that tore up the last agreement, and is now perhaps the only self-declared universal peacemaker specialising in launching military attacks and destroying prospects for ceasefires.

    I also thought they already had hypersonic missiles designed for 'nuclear missions'. I'm sure a 250kg dirty bomb arriving in downtown Tel Aviv at Mach 7 would have some effect.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 60,196

    rcs1000 said:

    MaxPB said:

    Iran has enough enriched uranium to make 50 nuclear bombs, and there is intelligence to show it was planning to weaponise it, Israel said.

    Don't Panic Mr Mainwaring, Don't Panic.....

    The IAEA say enough for 9.
    9 or 50 doesn't matter, one is one too many. We cannot allow a Iran to have nukes. It's a one way ticket to Israel's total destruction.
    While I agree with the sentiment, I don't think that's realistically possible. We can slow them down, sure. But short of either (a) a full scale invasion, or (b) regime change, then they will continue to walk down the path.

    A nuclear bomb is ultimately nothing more than a suitably large amount of enriched uranium, and a shaped charge. The charge used to be precision engineering. Now it is childs play.

    It is the enrichment that is the difficult bit - hence Stuxnet hitting the Iranian centrifuges. But while the pace of Iran obtaining fissionable material has been slow, every year they've managed to get a little more. And I don't see how (short of a or b above) we are going to be able to remove existing enriched uranium from them. It will be somewhere extremely secure, under a mountain or equivalent.

    I suspect it will be easier to limit Iran's ability to produce a delivery device. Because a bomb on its own is not that useful without a way of getting it to one's target.
    Doesn't weapons-grade fissile material have a limited shelflife, and require reprocessing every couple of decades or so? (Separate from the tritium issue.) So if you stop the reprocessing and the initial enrichment, the amount of usable stockpiled material would go down?
    U-235 has a half life of 704 million years. So... no.

    However uranium (improperly stored) can corrode or oxidise. I suspect, however, that this is not the case here.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 31,705
    edited June 14

    If @Cyclefree reads here, just to say I don't really believe in any cancer being incurable. I have no doubt that people in your position have been fully and completely cured and their health restored, and I suspect their stories and protocols are online if one goes searching.

    Doctors aren't there to restore your health, they are there to recommend whatever the conventional drugs or surgeries are for your condition, and allocate it according to a formula. Your health is in your hands.

    I applaud your approach to life though - that's what we should all be doing.

    I 100% disagree with this post. It’s unscientific nonsense and a slur on the medical profession. Sadly some cancers are incurable with what we have now. Anyone promoting non medical approaches is generally a charlatan, and there will be zero evidence to back up the claims.
    Thanks. Actually it isn't at all unscientific. We intervene medically on our bodies every single day. We eat three square meals, we drink, we are exposed to mental stresses of various types, we take or lack sleep, we take or lack exercise. All these are things that happen with far higher frequency than any medical protocol and are just as potent. It would be utterly unscientific - it would be quasi-religious even - to assume that only medically diagnosed therapies have a profound impact on the body.

    Nor have I advised Cyclefree to ignore her doctors or shun medical treatment - merely that she should inform herself widely about a whole body approach to regaining her health.

    As I said, I would be extremely surprised if some people with Cyclefree's exact condition had not been fully restored, and I think the lady herself is quite savvy enough to know when someone is genuine and when someone is selling snake oil, without your pathetic, and under the circumstances rather revolting intervention.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,842
    @leahfeiger.bsky.social‬

    NEW: The suspect in the Minnesota shooting of Democratic state legislators is linked to a security company and evangelical ministry.

    According to his ministry's website, he “sought out militant Islamists in order to share the gospel and tell them that violence wasn't the answer.”

    A Facebook profile under the suspected shooter’s name was briefly viewed by WIRED before it was taken down. His profile had shown him “liking” a conservative legal advocacy organization known for its hardline stances against abortion and LGBTQ rights.

    https://bsky.app/profile/wired.com/post/3lrlqbyqv6s2j
  • MattWMattW Posts: 27,775

    .

    RobD said:

    Nigelb said:

    Roger said:

    Nigelb said:

    Fox News, so who knows ?

    https://x.com/TreyYingst/status/1933493841392177570
    On the strikes against IRGC Air Force leadership: Israel tricked the top command of Iran’s air force into a meeting and then kept them there, I’m told by an Israeli security official.

    “We did specific activities to help us understand things about them and then used that information to make them act in a specific way,” the official said. “We knew this would make them meet, but more importantly we knew how to keep them there.

    All these stories we hear about the Israelis don't make them sound very nice do they? I wonder how the Western world would react if the Iranians had out of the blue sent war planes over and killed several Israeli scientists and their families? The US and UK would go bananas and rightly so
    There has been something of a longstanding taboo against taking out national leaders.

    For better, or for worse, it looks as though that is being extinguished.

    That will have global implications.
    What taboo?

    The IRA targeted Thatcher.

    Many leaders have over time been killed, and many executed following wars or revolutions too. Its been difficult to get at leaders typically.
    It's one thing if a terrorist group does it, another if a state does it.
    If a state is doing it as a part of war, then its a just target.


    Don't go to war if you don't want to fight. Leadership are legitimate, just targets.
    A thousand years of western ethics says otherwise.

    But you’ve already said that you don’t accept the logical basis for their analysis.

    @BartholomewRoberts vs @ThomasAquinas. I know who I’m going with.
    Where does Aquinas stand on planning policy?
    He liked it, and took the position that more altars and tabernacles should be built. It's quite trad RC in that respect, but his logic reads like a planning enquiry - with a huge emphasis on legal precedent:

    Objection 3: Further, the Divine Law, more than any other indeed, should lead man to the worship of God. But an increase of divine worship requires multiplication of altars and temples; as is evident in regard to the New Law. Therefore it seems that also under the Old Law there should have been not only one tabernacle or temple, but many.

    https://www.ccel.org/ccel/aquinas/summa.FS_Q102_A4.html
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 60,196
    Scott_xP said:

    @leahfeiger.bsky.social‬

    NEW: The suspect in the Minnesota shooting of Democratic state legislators is linked to a security company and evangelical ministry.

    According to his ministry's website, he “sought out militant Islamists in order to share the gospel and tell them that violence wasn't the answer.”

    A Facebook profile under the suspected shooter’s name was briefly viewed by WIRED before it was taken down. His profile had shown him “liking” a conservative legal advocacy organization known for its hardline stances against abortion and LGBTQ rights.

    https://bsky.app/profile/wired.com/post/3lrlqbyqv6s2j

    So, we're saying the shooter was a Militant Islamist MAGA fan?
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,861
    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    MaxPB said:

    Iran has enough enriched uranium to make 50 nuclear bombs, and there is intelligence to show it was planning to weaponise it, Israel said.

    Don't Panic Mr Mainwaring, Don't Panic.....

    The IAEA say enough for 9.
    9 or 50 doesn't matter, one is one too many. We cannot allow a Iran to have nukes. It's a one way ticket to Israel's total destruction.
    While I agree with the sentiment, I don't think that's realistically possible. We can slow them down, sure. But short of either (a) a full scale invasion, or (b) regime change, then they will continue to walk down the path.

    A nuclear bomb is ultimately nothing more than a suitably large amount of enriched uranium, and a shaped charge. The charge used to be precision engineering. Now it is childs play.

    It is the enrichment that is the difficult bit - hence Stuxnet hitting the Iranian centrifuges. But while the pace of Iran obtaining fissionable material has been slow, every year they've managed to get a little more. And I don't see how (short of a or b above) we are going to be able to remove existing enriched uranium from them. It will be somewhere extremely secure, under a mountain or equivalent.

    I suspect it will be easier to limit Iran's ability to produce a delivery device. Because a bomb on its own is not that useful without a way of getting it to one's target.
    Doesn't weapons-grade fissile material have a limited shelflife, and require reprocessing every couple of decades or so? (Separate from the tritium issue.) So if you stop the reprocessing and the initial enrichment, the amount of usable stockpiled material would go down?
    U-235 has a half life of 704 million years. So... no.

    However uranium (improperly stored) can corrode or oxidise. I suspect, however, that this is not the case here.
    IANAE, but from memory, I think you're wrong. It's not to do with the half-life per se, but degradation of the U-235 or U-238 into other isotopes that 'pollute' the weapon, and structural damage caused by emitted alpha particles and neutrons.

    Or am I confusled with Pu?
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 6,322
    rcs1000 said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @leahfeiger.bsky.social‬

    NEW: The suspect in the Minnesota shooting of Democratic state legislators is linked to a security company and evangelical ministry.

    According to his ministry's website, he “sought out militant Islamists in order to share the gospel and tell them that violence wasn't the answer.”

    A Facebook profile under the suspected shooter’s name was briefly viewed by WIRED before it was taken down. His profile had shown him “liking” a conservative legal advocacy organization known for its hardline stances against abortion and LGBTQ rights.

    https://bsky.app/profile/wired.com/post/3lrlqbyqv6s2j

    So, we're saying the shooter was a Militant Islamist MAGA fan?
    Maybe he tried to convert an Islamist and they converted him.
  • YokesYokes Posts: 1,383
    MattW said:

    rcs1000 said:

    MaxPB said:

    Iran has enough enriched uranium to make 50 nuclear bombs, and there is intelligence to show it was planning to weaponise it, Israel said.

    Don't Panic Mr Mainwaring, Don't Panic.....

    The IAEA say enough for 9.
    9 or 50 doesn't matter, one is one too many. We cannot allow a Iran to have nukes. It's a one way ticket to Israel's total destruction.
    While I agree with the sentiment, I don't think that's realistically possible. We can slow them down, sure. But short of either (a) a full scale invasion, or (b) regime change, then they will continue to walk down the path.

    A nuclear bomb is ultimately nothing more than a suitably large amount of enriched uranium, and a shaped charge. The charge used to be precision engineering. Now it is childs play.

    It is the enrichment that is the difficult bit - hence Stuxnet hitting the Iranian centrifuges. But while the pace of Iran obtaining fissionable material has been slow, every year they've managed to get a little more. And I don't see how (short of a or b above) we are going to be able to remove existing enriched uranium from them. It will be somewhere extremely secure, under a mountain or equivalent.

    I suspect it will be easier to limit Iran's ability to produce a delivery device. Because a bomb on its own is not that useful without a way of getting it to one's target.
    I don't see why regime change would cause Iran to lose interest in nuclear weapons; the world is still as uncertain for them as it was before. IIRC it was President Trump that tore up the last agreement, and is now perhaps the only self-declared universal peacemaker specialising in launching military attacks and destroying prospects for ceasefires.

    I also thought they already had hypersonic missiles designed for 'nuclear missions'. I'm sure a 250kg dirty bomb arriving in downtown Tel Aviv at Mach 7 would have some effect.
    Do they have hypersonic missiles? I wouldn't be sure of that.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,842
    rcs1000 said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @leahfeiger.bsky.social‬

    NEW: The suspect in the Minnesota shooting of Democratic state legislators is linked to a security company and evangelical ministry.

    According to his ministry's website, he “sought out militant Islamists in order to share the gospel and tell them that violence wasn't the answer.”

    A Facebook profile under the suspected shooter’s name was briefly viewed by WIRED before it was taken down. His profile had shown him “liking” a conservative legal advocacy organization known for its hardline stances against abortion and LGBTQ rights.

    https://bsky.app/profile/wired.com/post/3lrlqbyqv6s2j

    So, we're saying the shooter was a Militant Islamist MAGA fan?
    No. Evangelical Christian (white guy)

    @timmarchman.bsky.social‬

    NEW: Suspect in Minnesota assassination preached the gospel to "militant Islamists" in Gaza and the West Bank during the Second Intifada per his ministry's website; webmaster says he had "lots of ideas to make the world a better place."
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,842
    The 57-year-old, who has been identified as the suspected shooter according to numerous reports, runs an armed security service with his wife...

    ... and has been affiliated with at least one evangelical organization, a ministry he has also run with his wife, according to a tax filing reviewed by WIRED.

    According to public records and archived websites reviewed by WIRED, the suspect served for a time as the president of Revoformation Ministries. A version of the ministry’s website captured in 2011 carries a biography in which he is said to have been ordained in 1993.

    https://bsky.app/profile/jakelahut.writes.news/post/3lrlq6kymmc26
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 19,173

    If @Cyclefree reads here, just to say I don't really believe in any cancer being incurable. I have no doubt that people in your position have been fully and completely cured and their health restored, and I suspect their stories and protocols are online if one goes searching.

    Doctors aren't there to restore your health, they are there to recommend whatever the conventional drugs or surgeries are for your condition, and allocate it according to a formula. Your health is in your hands.

    I applaud your approach to life though - that's what we should all be doing.

    I 100% disagree with this post. It’s unscientific nonsense and a slur on the medical profession. Sadly some cancers are incurable with what we have now. Anyone promoting non medical approaches is generally a charlatan, and there will be zero evidence to back up the claims.
    Thanks. Actually it isn't at all unscientific. We intervene medically on our bodies every single day. We eat three square meals, we drink, we are exposed to mental stresses of various types, we take or lack sleep, we take or lack exercise. All these are things that happen with far higher frequency than any medical protocol and are just as potent. It would be utterly unscientific - it would be quasi-religious even - to assume that only medically diagnosed therapies have a profound impact on the body.

    Nor have I advised Cyclefree to ignore her doctors or shun medical treatment - merely that she should inform herself widely about a whole body approach to regaining her health.

    As I said, I would be extremely surprised if some people with Cyclefree's exact condition had not been fully restored, and I think the lady herself is quite savvy enough to know when someone is genuine and when someone is selling snake oil, without your pathetic, and under the circumstances rather revolting intervention.
    I suspect @Cyclefree is rather less gullible than you. Of course the impacts of eating well, exercise etc have an impact on your health and I would never claim otherwise. But perhaps you will give me the mechanisms by which metastatic cancer can be reversed by eating the right food. Because if you can, the next Nobel is coming your way. Without going all expert on you I do lecture on Oncology. You?
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,842
    @atrupar.com‬

    Officials ask for help finding Vance Boelter

    https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lrlr6ntwvc23
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 55,057
    edited June 14

    rcs1000 said:

    MaxPB said:

    Iran has enough enriched uranium to make 50 nuclear bombs, and there is intelligence to show it was planning to weaponise it, Israel said.

    Don't Panic Mr Mainwaring, Don't Panic.....

    The IAEA say enough for 9.
    9 or 50 doesn't matter, one is one too many. We cannot allow a Iran to have nukes. It's a one way ticket to Israel's total destruction.
    While I agree with the sentiment, I don't think that's realistically possible. We can slow them down, sure. But short of either (a) a full scale invasion, or (b) regime change, then they will continue to walk down the path.

    A nuclear bomb is ultimately nothing more than a suitably large amount of enriched uranium, and a shaped charge. The charge used to be precision engineering. Now it is childs play.

    It is the enrichment that is the difficult bit - hence Stuxnet hitting the Iranian centrifuges. But while the pace of Iran obtaining fissionable material has been slow, every year they've managed to get a little more. And I don't see how (short of a or b above) we are going to be able to remove existing enriched uranium from them. It will be somewhere extremely secure, under a mountain or equivalent.

    I suspect it will be easier to limit Iran's ability to produce a delivery device. Because a bomb on its own is not that useful without a way of getting it to one's target.
    Doesn't weapons-grade fissile material have a limited shelflife, and require reprocessing every couple of decades or so? (Separate from the tritium issue.) So if you stop the reprocessing and the initial enrichment, the amount of usable stockpiled material would go down?
    It varies

    1) nuclear decay

    The Iranians are going the route of enriching Uranium. So 80% plus of U235. Which doesn’t decay, really, on human timescales. In addition, the enrichment process tends to remove any other fun trace isotopes. So no for that.

    Plutonium is more fun. Because of the issue of 240, which is hot and decays. There is not much open literature on this, but it depends on the amount of Pu-240 vs Pu239 and the age. In high burn up (high 240) plutonium, the daughter decay products might affect the yield. But since the daughter products are not plutonium, they can be removed by chemistry (much, much simpler than enrichment). It could be done on lab scale.

    Plutonium has a further, fun feature. It has phase states, and can transition between them fairly easily. So a block of plutonium could suddenly transition between the alpha state and the delta state. And contract by about 20%. Which could mean going critical.

    Oh yeah!

    2) mechanical issues.

    Both Plutonium and Uranium are active metals - they corroded. The traditional cure was to nickel coat the cores of nuclear weapons. The Americans managed to create plutonium pits that were stable for decades - one pit was 48 years old when finally disposed of. And assessed as “Excellent”. The Russians never got their chemistry right, and their pits corroded all the time.

    Uranium also oxidises in air, but doesn’t crack and fissure like plutonium.

    Radioactive decay in plutonium high burn up pits would cause mechanical issues - bubbling and cracking from the creation of daughter isotopes with different mechanical properties to plutonium.

    3) answer to your question

    Any Iranian weapons will use U235 - which is stable and relatively easy to coat against corrosion.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 11,376
    Haifa oil refinery appears to have taken a hit either direct or very proximate
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,842
    edited June 14
    I am not certain the picture matches the headline

    @thetimes

    Trump military parade live




    https://x.com/thetimes/status/1933988296369090722
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,643

    Haifa appears to be getting peppered by this barrage of missiles

    The twitter feeds claiming a strike on the oil refinery.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 27,775
    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    MaxPB said:

    Iran has enough enriched uranium to make 50 nuclear bombs, and there is intelligence to show it was planning to weaponise it, Israel said.

    Don't Panic Mr Mainwaring, Don't Panic.....

    The IAEA say enough for 9.
    9 or 50 doesn't matter, one is one too many. We cannot allow a Iran to have nukes. It's a one way ticket to Israel's total destruction.
    While I agree with the sentiment, I don't think that's realistically possible. We can slow them down, sure. But short of either (a) a full scale invasion, or (b) regime change, then they will continue to walk down the path.

    A nuclear bomb is ultimately nothing more than a suitably large amount of enriched uranium, and a shaped charge. The charge used to be precision engineering. Now it is childs play.

    It is the enrichment that is the difficult bit - hence Stuxnet hitting the Iranian centrifuges. But while the pace of Iran obtaining fissionable material has been slow, every year they've managed to get a little more. And I don't see how (short of a or b above) we are going to be able to remove existing enriched uranium from them. It will be somewhere extremely secure, under a mountain or equivalent.

    I suspect it will be easier to limit Iran's ability to produce a delivery device. Because a bomb on its own is not that useful without a way of getting it to one's target.
    Doesn't weapons-grade fissile material have a limited shelflife, and require reprocessing every couple of decades or so? (Separate from the tritium issue.) So if you stop the reprocessing and the initial enrichment, the amount of usable stockpiled material would go down?
    U-235 has a half life of 704 million years. So... no.

    However uranium (improperly stored) can corrode or oxidise. I suspect, however, that this is not the case here.
    (Pedant)
    If it goes down by half in 704 million years, surely the answer is "Yes"?
    (/Pedant)

    :smile:

    (I may now have been banned for impudence.)
  • RattersRatters Posts: 1,357

    In CASH news I had someone in our shop try to pay for an 80p purchase on a card.

    Erm, no.

    A few of us village businesses now asking punters to please use cash where they can, and I'm back carrying a wallet and actual fiat tokens after a few years of not bothering.

    EDIT - sorry, banhammer fears

    C*SH

    Did you consider just increasing the cost to make sure it covered your card processing fees?

    I don't carry cash with me. I don't even carry a card with me, nor do I know where my physical card is in my house. Somewhere deep in some drawer.

    So if I want to buy something that costs 80p I'll use my phone as always. I'd much rather be offered the option of it costing £1.30 by card than being turned down entirely.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 54,561
    rcs1000 said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @leahfeiger.bsky.social‬

    NEW: The suspect in the Minnesota shooting of Democratic state legislators is linked to a security company and evangelical ministry.

    According to his ministry's website, he “sought out militant Islamists in order to share the gospel and tell them that violence wasn't the answer.”

    A Facebook profile under the suspected shooter’s name was briefly viewed by WIRED before it was taken down. His profile had shown him “liking” a conservative legal advocacy organization known for its hardline stances against abortion and LGBTQ rights.

    https://bsky.app/profile/wired.com/post/3lrlqbyqv6s2j

    So, we're saying the shooter was a Militant Islamist MAGA fan?
    MAKE ALLAH GREAT AGAIN!
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 55,057
    Yokes said:

    MattW said:

    rcs1000 said:

    MaxPB said:

    Iran has enough enriched uranium to make 50 nuclear bombs, and there is intelligence to show it was planning to weaponise it, Israel said.

    Don't Panic Mr Mainwaring, Don't Panic.....

    The IAEA say enough for 9.
    9 or 50 doesn't matter, one is one too many. We cannot allow a Iran to have nukes. It's a one way ticket to Israel's total destruction.
    While I agree with the sentiment, I don't think that's realistically possible. We can slow them down, sure. But short of either (a) a full scale invasion, or (b) regime change, then they will continue to walk down the path.

    A nuclear bomb is ultimately nothing more than a suitably large amount of enriched uranium, and a shaped charge. The charge used to be precision engineering. Now it is childs play.

    It is the enrichment that is the difficult bit - hence Stuxnet hitting the Iranian centrifuges. But while the pace of Iran obtaining fissionable material has been slow, every year they've managed to get a little more. And I don't see how (short of a or b above) we are going to be able to remove existing enriched uranium from them. It will be somewhere extremely secure, under a mountain or equivalent.

    I suspect it will be easier to limit Iran's ability to produce a delivery device. Because a bomb on its own is not that useful without a way of getting it to one's target.
    I don't see why regime change would cause Iran to lose interest in nuclear weapons; the world is still as uncertain for them as it was before. IIRC it was President Trump that tore up the last agreement, and is now perhaps the only self-declared universal peacemaker specialising in launching military attacks and destroying prospects for ceasefires.

    I also thought they already had hypersonic missiles designed for 'nuclear missions'. I'm sure a 250kg dirty bomb arriving in downtown Tel Aviv at Mach 7 would have some effect.
    Do they have hypersonic missiles? I wouldn't be sure of that.
    They have ballistic missiles. That travel at high Mach numbers. All ballistic missiles do. A full ICBM reaches Mach 20.

    The Hypersonic Weapons hype is about air breathing vehicles that can reach Mach 6+. And manoeuvre. The number of demonstrations of actual positive thrust at those velocities is basically a handful - for a few seconds.

    Meanwhile, ballistic missiles with manoeuvring warheads are being hyped as Hypersonic Weapons. See MARV
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,842
    3:09 p.m. - BCA Superintendent Drew Evans said Boelter is 6 feet one 1 inch tall and 220 lbs with brown hair and eyes. He was spotted on surveillance footage from a Minneapolis business wearing a light colored cowboy hat with a long sleeve dark jacket, light pants and carrying a dark bag.

    Residents should consider him armed and dangerous; do not approach him and call 911. Tips as to his whereabouts can be called in at 877.996.6222 or email bca.tips@state.mn.us.

    “We still don’t know if additional people are involved, but this individual is the one that we’re looking at as a person of interest right now, but there may be other people with him and we’d like to speak to anybody that may have had contact with him at any point in time,” Evans said.

    https://www.startribune.com/brooklyn-park-police-searching-for-suspect-in-multiple-targeted-shootings/601372993
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 55,684
    rcs1000 said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @leahfeiger.bsky.social‬

    NEW: The suspect in the Minnesota shooting of Democratic state legislators is linked to a security company and evangelical ministry.

    According to his ministry's website, he “sought out militant Islamists in order to share the gospel and tell them that violence wasn't the answer.”

    A Facebook profile under the suspected shooter’s name was briefly viewed by WIRED before it was taken down. His profile had shown him “liking” a conservative legal advocacy organization known for its hardline stances against abortion and LGBTQ rights.

    https://bsky.app/profile/wired.com/post/3lrlqbyqv6s2j

    So, we're saying the shooter was a Militant Islamist MAGA fan?
    He has a very odd CV. Was involved in private security and worked in Gaza.
  • vikvik Posts: 491
    rcs1000 said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @leahfeiger.bsky.social‬

    NEW: The suspect in the Minnesota shooting of Democratic state legislators is linked to a security company and evangelical ministry.

    According to his ministry's website, he “sought out militant Islamists in order to share the gospel and tell them that violence wasn't the answer.”

    A Facebook profile under the suspected shooter’s name was briefly viewed by WIRED before it was taken down. His profile had shown him “liking” a conservative legal advocacy organization known for its hardline stances against abortion and LGBTQ rights.

    https://bsky.app/profile/wired.com/post/3lrlqbyqv6s2j

    So, we're saying the shooter was a Militant Islamist MAGA fan?
    "Gospel" is "the teaching or revelation of Christ".

    He was trying to convert Militant Islamists to Christians.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 60,196

    If @Cyclefree reads here, just to say I don't really believe in any cancer being incurable. I have no doubt that people in your position have been fully and completely cured and their health restored, and I suspect their stories and protocols are online if one goes searching.

    Doctors aren't there to restore your health, they are there to recommend whatever the conventional drugs or surgeries are for your condition, and allocate it according to a formula. Your health is in your hands.

    I applaud your approach to life though - that's what we should all be doing.

    I 100% disagree with this post. It’s unscientific nonsense and a slur on the medical profession. Sadly some cancers are incurable with what we have now. Anyone promoting non medical approaches is generally a charlatan, and there will be zero evidence to back up the claims.
    Thanks. Actually it isn't at all unscientific. We intervene medically on our bodies every single day. We eat three square meals, we drink, we are exposed to mental stresses of various types, we take or lack sleep, we take or lack exercise. All these are things that happen with far higher frequency than any medical protocol and are just as potent. It would be utterly unscientific - it would be quasi-religious even - to assume that only medically diagnosed therapies have a profound impact on the body.

    Nor have I advised Cyclefree to ignore her doctors or shun medical treatment - merely that she should inform herself widely about a whole body approach to regaining her health.

    As I said, I would be extremely surprised if some people with Cyclefree's exact condition had not been fully restored, and I think the lady herself is quite savvy enough to know when someone is genuine and when someone is selling snake oil, without your pathetic, and under the circumstances rather revolting intervention.
    I suspect @Cyclefree is rather less gullible than you. Of course the impacts of eating well, exercise etc have an impact on your health and I would never claim otherwise. But perhaps you will give me the mechanisms by which metastatic cancer can be reversed by eating the right food. Because if you can, the next Nobel is coming your way. Without going all expert on you I do lecture on Oncology. You?
    You're part of the system. You've probably been bought and paid for by the drug companies. Glaxo probably pays you to post their propaganda on here.
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 33,362
    Ratters said:

    In CASH news I had someone in our shop try to pay for an 80p purchase on a card.

    Erm, no.

    A few of us village businesses now asking punters to please use cash where they can, and I'm back carrying a wallet and actual fiat tokens after a few years of not bothering.

    EDIT - sorry, banhammer fears

    C*SH

    Did you consider just increasing the cost to make sure it covered your card processing fees?

    I don't carry cash with me. I don't even carry a card with me, nor do I know where my physical card is in my house. Somewhere deep in some drawer.

    So if I want to buy something that costs 80p I'll use my phone as always. I'd much rather be offered the option of it costing £1.30 by card than being turned down entirely.
    That would be illegal.

    As of 2018 it is illegal to put a surcharge on for card payments. Basically you have to charge the same anmount for card payment as you do for cash. By law. If the transaction is going to lose you money then the only legal option you have is to refuse the sale.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 19,173
    rcs1000 said:

    If @Cyclefree reads here, just to say I don't really believe in any cancer being incurable. I have no doubt that people in your position have been fully and completely cured and their health restored, and I suspect their stories and protocols are online if one goes searching.

    Doctors aren't there to restore your health, they are there to recommend whatever the conventional drugs or surgeries are for your condition, and allocate it according to a formula. Your health is in your hands.

    I applaud your approach to life though - that's what we should all be doing.

    I 100% disagree with this post. It’s unscientific nonsense and a slur on the medical profession. Sadly some cancers are incurable with what we have now. Anyone promoting non medical approaches is generally a charlatan, and there will be zero evidence to back up the claims.
    Thanks. Actually it isn't at all unscientific. We intervene medically on our bodies every single day. We eat three square meals, we drink, we are exposed to mental stresses of various types, we take or lack sleep, we take or lack exercise. All these are things that happen with far higher frequency than any medical protocol and are just as potent. It would be utterly unscientific - it would be quasi-religious even - to assume that only medically diagnosed therapies have a profound impact on the body.

    Nor have I advised Cyclefree to ignore her doctors or shun medical treatment - merely that she should inform herself widely about a whole body approach to regaining her health.

    As I said, I would be extremely surprised if some people with Cyclefree's exact condition had not been fully restored, and I think the lady herself is quite savvy enough to know when someone is genuine and when someone is selling snake oil, without your pathetic, and under the circumstances rather revolting intervention.
    I suspect @Cyclefree is rather less gullible than you. Of course the impacts of eating well, exercise etc have an impact on your health and I would never claim otherwise. But perhaps you will give me the mechanisms by which metastatic cancer can be reversed by eating the right food. Because if you can, the next Nobel is coming your way. Without going all expert on you I do lecture on Oncology. You?
    You're part of the system. You've probably been bought and paid for by the drug companies. Glaxo probably pays you to post their propaganda on here.
    I was bought a beer by a guy who used to work for Glaxo just yesterday. Guilty as charged your honour.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 60,196

    Ratters said:

    In CASH news I had someone in our shop try to pay for an 80p purchase on a card.

    Erm, no.

    A few of us village businesses now asking punters to please use cash where they can, and I'm back carrying a wallet and actual fiat tokens after a few years of not bothering.

    EDIT - sorry, banhammer fears

    C*SH

    Did you consider just increasing the cost to make sure it covered your card processing fees?

    I don't carry cash with me. I don't even carry a card with me, nor do I know where my physical card is in my house. Somewhere deep in some drawer.

    So if I want to buy something that costs 80p I'll use my phone as always. I'd much rather be offered the option of it costing £1.30 by card than being turned down entirely.
    That would be illegal.

    As of 2018 it is illegal to put a surcharge on for card payments. Basically you have to charge the same anmount for card payment as you do for cash. By law. If the transaction is going to lose you money then the only legal option you have is to refuse the sale.
    Which boneheaded government passed that legislation?
  • xyzxyzxyzxyzxyzxyz Posts: 112

    If @Cyclefree reads here, just to say I don't really believe in any cancer being incurable. I have no doubt that people in your position have been fully and completely cured and their health restored, and I suspect their stories and protocols are online if one goes searching.

    Doctors aren't there to restore your health, they are there to recommend whatever the conventional drugs or surgeries are for your condition, and allocate it according to a formula. Your health is in your hands.

    I applaud your approach to life though - that's what we should all be doing.

    I 100% disagree with this post. It’s unscientific nonsense and a slur on the medical profession. Sadly some cancers are incurable with what we have now. Anyone promoting non medical approaches is generally a charlatan, and there will be zero evidence to back up the claims.
    Thanks. Actually it isn't at all unscientific. We intervene medically on our bodies every single day. We eat three square meals, we drink, we are exposed to mental stresses of various types, we take or lack sleep, we take or lack exercise. All these are things that happen with far higher frequency than any medical protocol and are just as potent. It would be utterly unscientific - it would be quasi-religious even - to assume that only medically diagnosed therapies have a profound impact on the body.

    Nor have I advised Cyclefree to ignore her doctors or shun medical treatment - merely that she should inform herself widely about a whole body approach to regaining her health.

    As I said, I would be extremely surprised if some people with Cyclefree's exact condition had not been fully restored, and I think the lady herself is quite savvy enough to know when someone is genuine and when someone is selling snake oil, without your pathetic, and under the circumstances rather revolting intervention.
    I suspect @Cyclefree is rather less gullible than you. Of course the impacts of eating well, exercise etc have an impact on your health and I would never claim otherwise. But perhaps you will give me the mechanisms by which metastatic cancer can be reversed by eating the right food. Because if you can, the next Nobel is coming your way. Without going all expert on you I do lecture on Oncology. You?

    If @Cyclefree reads here, just to say I don't really believe in any cancer being incurable. I have no doubt that people in your position have been fully and completely cured and their health restored, and I suspect their stories and protocols are online if one goes searching.

    Doctors aren't there to restore your health, they are there to recommend whatever the conventional drugs or surgeries are for your condition, and allocate it according to a formula. Your health is in your hands.

    I applaud your approach to life though - that's what we should all be doing.

    I 100% disagree with this post. It’s unscientific nonsense and a slur on the medical profession. Sadly some cancers are incurable with what we have now. Anyone promoting non medical approaches is generally a charlatan, and there will be zero evidence to back up the claims.
    Thanks. Actually it isn't at all unscientific. We intervene medically on our bodies every single day. We eat three square meals, we drink, we are exposed to mental stresses of various types, we take or lack sleep, we take or lack exercise. All these are things that happen with far higher frequency than any medical protocol and are just as potent. It would be utterly unscientific - it would be quasi-religious even - to assume that only medically diagnosed therapies have a profound impact on the body.

    Nor have I advised Cyclefree to ignore her doctors or shun medical treatment - merely that she should inform herself widely about a whole body approach to regaining her health.

    As I said, I would be extremely surprised if some people with Cyclefree's exact condition had not been fully restored, and I think the lady herself is quite savvy enough to know when someone is genuine and when someone is selling snake oil, without your pathetic, and under the circumstances rather revolting intervention.
    I suspect @Cyclefree is rather less gullible than you. Of course the impacts of eating well, exercise etc have an impact on your health and I would never claim otherwise. But perhaps you will give me the mechanisms by which metastatic cancer can be reversed by eating the right food. Because if you can, the next Nobel is coming your way. Without going all expert on you I do lecture on Oncology. You?
    X algo is promoting @makismd who posts success stories everyday of tumour shrinkage and metastatic reversal using ivermectin and fenbendazole.

  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 33,362
    rcs1000 said:

    Ratters said:

    In CASH news I had someone in our shop try to pay for an 80p purchase on a card.

    Erm, no.

    A few of us village businesses now asking punters to please use cash where they can, and I'm back carrying a wallet and actual fiat tokens after a few years of not bothering.

    EDIT - sorry, banhammer fears

    C*SH

    Did you consider just increasing the cost to make sure it covered your card processing fees?

    I don't carry cash with me. I don't even carry a card with me, nor do I know where my physical card is in my house. Somewhere deep in some drawer.

    So if I want to buy something that costs 80p I'll use my phone as always. I'd much rather be offered the option of it costing £1.30 by card than being turned down entirely.
    That would be illegal.

    As of 2018 it is illegal to put a surcharge on for card payments. Basically you have to charge the same anmount for card payment as you do for cash. By law. If the transaction is going to lose you money then the only legal option you have is to refuse the sale.
    Which boneheaded government passed that legislation?
    That would be a certain Mrs May.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 6,322
    edited June 14
    rcs1000 said:

    Ratters said:

    In CASH news I had someone in our shop try to pay for an 80p purchase on a card.

    Erm, no.

    A few of us village businesses now asking punters to please use cash where they can, and I'm back carrying a wallet and actual fiat tokens after a few years of not bothering.

    EDIT - sorry, banhammer fears

    C*SH

    Did you consider just increasing the cost to make sure it covered your card processing fees?

    I don't carry cash with me. I don't even carry a card with me, nor do I know where my physical card is in my house. Somewhere deep in some drawer.

    So if I want to buy something that costs 80p I'll use my phone as always. I'd much rather be offered the option of it costing £1.30 by card than being turned down entirely.
    That would be illegal.

    As of 2018 it is illegal to put a surcharge on for card payments. Basically you have to charge the same anmount for card payment as you do for cash. By law. If the transaction is going to lose you money then the only legal option you have is to refuse the sale.
    Which boneheaded government passed that legislation?
    Our friends in Brussels.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/card-surcharge-ban-means-no-more-nasty-surprises-for-shoppers
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 55,684
    https://x.com/osinttechnical/status/1933990316995940363

    Minutes after Israel's Haifa refinery was hit by an Iranian ballistic missile, Israeli Air Force jets bombed Iranian oil facilities in Tehran.

    Multiple major fires have broken out.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,270
    DOGEed staff from Voice of America's Farsi language service have been urgently told to come back into work apparently.

  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,842
    4:20 p.m. - The FBI is offering a $50,000 reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of Boelter. The FBI’s accompanying image showed Boelter appearing to wear a mask.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 19,323
    The, er, Russian flag has found its way onto material for Trump's celebration today. Just a coincidence, I'm sure.
    Kinda sure.
    https://x.com/DeptofDefense/status/1933947548965781863
  • RattersRatters Posts: 1,357

    Ratters said:

    In CASH news I had someone in our shop try to pay for an 80p purchase on a card.

    Erm, no.

    A few of us village businesses now asking punters to please use cash where they can, and I'm back carrying a wallet and actual fiat tokens after a few years of not bothering.

    EDIT - sorry, banhammer fears

    C*SH

    Did you consider just increasing the cost to make sure it covered your card processing fees?

    I don't carry cash with me. I don't even carry a card with me, nor do I know where my physical card is in my house. Somewhere deep in some drawer.

    So if I want to buy something that costs 80p I'll use my phone as always. I'd much rather be offered the option of it costing £1.30 by card than being turned down entirely.
    That would be illegal.

    As of 2018 it is illegal to put a surcharge on for card payments. Basically you have to charge the same anmount for card payment as you do for cash. By law. If the transaction is going to lose you money then the only legal option you have is to refuse the sale.
    Fair enough, but terrible legislation. Businesses should be able to pass on additional costs if mutually agreed and clearly labelled.

    Personally I'd allow more flexibility. American Express? That'll be 2% more onto the purchase price please. Etc.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 6,322
    Scott_xP said:

    4:20 p.m. - The FBI is offering a $50,000 reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of Boelter. The FBI’s accompanying image showed Boelter appearing to wear a mask.



    Signs for today's anti-Trump rally found in the shooter's car. Damascene conversion or mere disguise or false flag?
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 10,991
    carnforth said:

    Scott_xP said:

    4:20 p.m. - The FBI is offering a $50,000 reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of Boelter. The FBI’s accompanying image showed Boelter appearing to wear a mask.



    Signs for today's anti-Trump rally found in the shooter's car. Damascene conversion or mere disguise or false flag?
    Or a way to gain access or trust from someone in the protest. There's a reason why they've cancelled them.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,842
    Eabhal said:

    carnforth said:

    Scott_xP said:

    4:20 p.m. - The FBI is offering a $50,000 reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of Boelter. The FBI’s accompanying image showed Boelter appearing to wear a mask.



    Signs for today's anti-Trump rally found in the shooter's car. Damascene conversion or mere disguise or false flag?
    Or a way to gain access or trust from someone in the protest. There's a reason why they've cancelled them.
    They went ahead anyway

    https://bsky.app/profile/luckytran.com/post/3lrlqak4jdc2s
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 40,150
    This political assassination seems really odd at first glance. Very sad that America is fracturing so badly and yet it looks like it was friendly fire? At least judging by the independent sources rather than mainstream ones who are out there pushing a clear agenda.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 19,323
    carnforth said:

    Scott_xP said:

    4:20 p.m. - The FBI is offering a $50,000 reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of Boelter. The FBI’s accompanying image showed Boelter appearing to wear a mask.



    Signs for today's anti-Trump rally found in the shooter's car. Damascene conversion or mere disguise or false flag?
    He might have been planning to attend the march and shoot people there. Hard to know. Those don't really look much like signs, though. Just bits of paper?
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 6,322

    carnforth said:

    Scott_xP said:

    4:20 p.m. - The FBI is offering a $50,000 reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of Boelter. The FBI’s accompanying image showed Boelter appearing to wear a mask.



    Signs for today's anti-Trump rally found in the shooter's car. Damascene conversion or mere disguise or false flag?
    He might have been planning to attend the march and shoot people there. Hard to know. Those don't really look much like signs, though. Just bits of paper?
    I misspoke; the place I got it from called them "flyers".
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 19,323
    carnforth said:

    carnforth said:

    Scott_xP said:

    4:20 p.m. - The FBI is offering a $50,000 reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of Boelter. The FBI’s accompanying image showed Boelter appearing to wear a mask.



    Signs for today's anti-Trump rally found in the shooter's car. Damascene conversion or mere disguise or false flag?
    He might have been planning to attend the march and shoot people there. Hard to know. Those don't really look much like signs, though. Just bits of paper?
    I misspoke; the place I got it from called them "flyers".
    Ah. Maybe he just saw it as another place to evangelise. Lots of people in one place.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 55,057
    rcs1000 said:

    If @Cyclefree reads here, just to say I don't really believe in any cancer being incurable. I have no doubt that people in your position have been fully and completely cured and their health restored, and I suspect their stories and protocols are online if one goes searching.

    Doctors aren't there to restore your health, they are there to recommend whatever the conventional drugs or surgeries are for your condition, and allocate it according to a formula. Your health is in your hands.

    I applaud your approach to life though - that's what we should all be doing.

    I 100% disagree with this post. It’s unscientific nonsense and a slur on the medical profession. Sadly some cancers are incurable with what we have now. Anyone promoting non medical approaches is generally a charlatan, and there will be zero evidence to back up the claims.
    Thanks. Actually it isn't at all unscientific. We intervene medically on our bodies every single day. We eat three square meals, we drink, we are exposed to mental stresses of various types, we take or lack sleep, we take or lack exercise. All these are things that happen with far higher frequency than any medical protocol and are just as potent. It would be utterly unscientific - it would be quasi-religious even - to assume that only medically diagnosed therapies have a profound impact on the body.

    Nor have I advised Cyclefree to ignore her doctors or shun medical treatment - merely that she should inform herself widely about a whole body approach to regaining her health.

    As I said, I would be extremely surprised if some people with Cyclefree's exact condition had not been fully restored, and I think the lady herself is quite savvy enough to know when someone is genuine and when someone is selling snake oil, without your pathetic, and under the circumstances rather revolting intervention.
    I suspect @Cyclefree is rather less gullible than you. Of course the impacts of eating well, exercise etc have an impact on your health and I would never claim otherwise. But perhaps you will give me the mechanisms by which metastatic cancer can be reversed by eating the right food. Because if you can, the next Nobel is coming your way. Without going all expert on you I do lecture on Oncology. You?
    You're part of the system. You've probably been bought and paid for by the drug companies. Glaxo probably pays you to post their propaganda on here.
    Well actually, the Grand Council tells the Illuminati who tell the Grey Aliens who tells the Lizard Men to pay Glaxo to post the propoganda.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,842
    MaxPB said:

    This political assassination seems really odd at first glance. Very sad that America is fracturing so badly and yet it looks like it was friendly fire? At least judging by the independent sources rather than mainstream ones who are out there pushing a clear agenda.

    No

    This guy was not a friend of Democratic politicians
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 10,991
    MaxPB said:

    This political assassination seems really odd at first glance. Very sad that America is fracturing so badly and yet it looks like it was friendly fire? At least judging by the independent sources rather than mainstream ones who are out there pushing a clear agenda.

    What's your independent source?
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 40,150

    carnforth said:

    Scott_xP said:

    4:20 p.m. - The FBI is offering a $50,000 reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of Boelter. The FBI’s accompanying image showed Boelter appearing to wear a mask.



    Signs for today's anti-Trump rally found in the shooter's car. Damascene conversion or mere disguise or false flag?
    He might have been planning to attend the march and shoot people there. Hard to know. Those don't really look much like signs, though. Just bits of paper?
    He was previously appointed to the Governor’s Workforce Development Board in 2019 by Governor Tim Walz. He previously served on the Governor’s Workforce Development Council, appointed in 2016 by then-Governor Mark Dayton.

    The current leading theory is that he targeted these specific democrats because they voted to rescind illegal immigrant rights in Minnesota.

    This is looking like a case of friendly fire, or the left eating itself alive.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,842
    MaxPB said:

    This is looking like a case of friendly fire, or the left eating itself alive.

    Nope
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 40,150
    Scott_xP said:

    MaxPB said:

    This political assassination seems really odd at first glance. Very sad that America is fracturing so badly and yet it looks like it was friendly fire? At least judging by the independent sources rather than mainstream ones who are out there pushing a clear agenda.

    No

    This guy was not a friend of Democratic politicians
    He wasn't the friend of these specific ones who voted to rescind illegal immigrant rights. He's targeted the "traitors" who voted with the republicans. In a few days once the fog has cleared we'll know for sure though. I don't trust any mainstream source on this though, they're all so desperate to push their pet agendas.
  • TresTres Posts: 2,872
    Eabhal said:

    MaxPB said:

    This political assassination seems really odd at first glance. Very sad that America is fracturing so badly and yet it looks like it was friendly fire? At least judging by the independent sources rather than mainstream ones who are out there pushing a clear agenda.

    What's your independent source?
    he's probably just over interpreting the gaza connection
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,842
    This guy is not a Democrat

    In a 2023 sermon reviewed by WIRED and delivered in the DRC, the alleged shooter preached against abortion --

    “They don't know abortion is wrong, many churches”

    ”God is going to raise up apostles and prophets in America to correct His church.”

    https://bsky.app/profile/leahfeiger.bsky.social/post/3lrlve2bdyc2c
  • TheValiantTheValiant Posts: 1,978
    Nigelb said:

    Roger said:

    Nigelb said:

    Fox News, so who knows ?

    https://x.com/TreyYingst/status/1933493841392177570
    On the strikes against IRGC Air Force leadership: Israel tricked the top command of Iran’s air force into a meeting and then kept them there, I’m told by an Israeli security official.

    “We did specific activities to help us understand things about them and then used that information to make them act in a specific way,” the official said. “We knew this would make them meet, but more importantly we knew how to keep them there.

    All these stories we hear about the Israelis don't make them sound very nice do they? I wonder how the Western world would react if the Iranians had out of the blue sent war planes over and killed several Israeli scientists and their families? The US and UK would go bananas and rightly so
    There has been something of a longstanding taboo against taking out national leaders.

    For better, or for worse, it looks as though that is being extinguished.

    That will have global implications.
    Honestly, and I know others have got into the 'terrorist' or 'state actor' rubbish, but there really isn't a taboo at all.

    States and other non state actors have tried to kill leaders all the time. We just don't often hear about the unsuccessful ones.

    The United States spent an extraordinary amount of time and resources trying to kill the leader of a small island state off their coast from about 1960 to.... well, when he died. Exploding cigars and all that.

    I'm pretty sure a nasty Euro-Asian country has spent a lot of time recently trying to kill a comedian, again we hear little about it, but they're trying.

    There is no taboo. It's usually said by leaders who hope by saying it that no one will try and kill them.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 40,150
    Scott_xP said:

    This guy is not a Democrat

    In a 2023 sermon reviewed by WIRED and delivered in the DRC, the alleged shooter preached against abortion --

    “They don't know abortion is wrong, many churches”

    ”God is going to raise up apostles and prophets in America to correct His church.”

    https://bsky.app/profile/leahfeiger.bsky.social/post/3lrlve2bdyc2c

    There's many, many millions of democrats who are against abortion.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 55,684
    Scott_xP said:

    MaxPB said:

    This is looking like a case of friendly fire, or the left eating itself alive.

    Nope
    https://officialdocuments.sos.mn.gov/Files/GetDocument/121696
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 10,991
    MaxPB said:

    Scott_xP said:

    MaxPB said:

    This political assassination seems really odd at first glance. Very sad that America is fracturing so badly and yet it looks like it was friendly fire? At least judging by the independent sources rather than mainstream ones who are out there pushing a clear agenda.

    No

    This guy was not a friend of Democratic politicians
    He wasn't the friend of these specific ones who voted to rescind illegal immigrant rights. He's targeted the "traitors" who voted with the republicans. In a few days once the fog has cleared we'll know for sure though. I don't trust any mainstream source on this though, they're all so desperate to push their pet agendas.
    And you aren't?! "the left eating itself alive"
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,842
    @brbarrett.bsky.social‬

    We've updated our story on the alleged Minnesota shooter to include details from anti-abortion and anti-trans sermons he gave in 2023.

    https://bsky.app/profile/brbarrett.bsky.social/post/3lrlvywibvc2c
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,842
    Vance Luther Boelter is a far-right Christian nationalist whose assassination list contained the names of many major Minnesota Democrats — including Rep. Melissa Hortman, Sen. John Hoffman, Gov. Tim Walz, Rep. Ilhan Omar, Sen. Tina Smith...

    ... Attorney General Keith Ellison, as well as numerous abortion providers and pro-choice advocates. Many of the Democrats on Boelter's 'kill list' have been personally attacked by Trump.

    https://bsky.app/profile/maddenifico.bsky.social/post/3lrltzhtpxk2z
  • TheValiantTheValiant Posts: 1,978
    Started reading the thread, got half way down page 1 and started seeing the icon for a ban for long standing posters.

    By page 3, I think everyone has been banned, so it looks like I'm on my own................
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 30,157
    Scott_xP said:

    Vance Luther Boelter is a far-right Christian nationalist whose assassination list contained the names of many major Minnesota Democrats — including Rep. Melissa Hortman, Sen. John Hoffman, Gov. Tim Walz, Rep. Ilhan Omar, Sen. Tina Smith...

    ... Attorney General Keith Ellison, as well as numerous abortion providers and pro-choice advocates. Many of the Democrats on Boelter's 'kill list' have been personally attacked by Trump.

    https://bsky.app/profile/maddenifico.bsky.social/post/3lrltzhtpxk2z

    He's a Leftist far-right Christian nationalist according to independent sources.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 40,150
    Eabhal said:

    MaxPB said:

    Scott_xP said:

    MaxPB said:

    This political assassination seems really odd at first glance. Very sad that America is fracturing so badly and yet it looks like it was friendly fire? At least judging by the independent sources rather than mainstream ones who are out there pushing a clear agenda.

    No

    This guy was not a friend of Democratic politicians
    He wasn't the friend of these specific ones who voted to rescind illegal immigrant rights. He's targeted the "traitors" who voted with the republicans. In a few days once the fog has cleared we'll know for sure though. I don't trust any mainstream source on this though, they're all so desperate to push their pet agendas.
    And you aren't?! "the left eating itself alive"
    Political appointee of Democratic governors, why would they appoint a MAGA person?
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 60,196
    carnforth said:

    Scott_xP said:

    4:20 p.m. - The FBI is offering a $50,000 reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of Boelter. The FBI’s accompanying image showed Boelter appearing to wear a mask.



    Signs for today's anti-Trump rally found in the shooter's car. Damascene conversion or mere disguise or false flag?
    Yes.

  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 30,157

    Started reading the thread, got half way down page 1 and started seeing the icon for a ban for long standing posters.

    By page 3, I think everyone has been banned, so it looks like I'm on my own................

    You'll be used to that watching Port Vale.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 10,991
    edited June 14
    MaxPB said:

    Eabhal said:

    MaxPB said:

    Scott_xP said:

    MaxPB said:

    This political assassination seems really odd at first glance. Very sad that America is fracturing so badly and yet it looks like it was friendly fire? At least judging by the independent sources rather than mainstream ones who are out there pushing a clear agenda.

    No

    This guy was not a friend of Democratic politicians
    He wasn't the friend of these specific ones who voted to rescind illegal immigrant rights. He's targeted the "traitors" who voted with the republicans. In a few days once the fog has cleared we'll know for sure though. I don't trust any mainstream source on this though, they're all so desperate to push their pet agendas.
    And you aren't?! "the left eating itself alive"
    Political appointee of Democratic governors, why would they appoint a MAGA person?
    Not a clue. Maybe back in 2019 the guy hadn't been radicalised? Perhaps Walz just appointed the best person for the job, or continued with the same guy for the incredibly important role Business Member of the
    Governor's Workforce Development Board
    ?

    Don't come on here pontificating about about pet agendas while pushing your own. Or at least do a better job of disguising it.
  • TheValiantTheValiant Posts: 1,978
    dixiedean said:

    Started reading the thread, got half way down page 1 and started seeing the icon for a ban for long standing posters.

    By page 3, I think everyone has been banned, so it looks like I'm on my own................

    You'll be used to that watching Port Vale.
    I could've picked a local team growing up in the 1980s, but they're all rubbish round Merseyside [1] so I was a glory hunter and picked Port Vale.

    [1] Just realised that may earn me a ban (or not) from TSE.
  • TresTres Posts: 2,872
    Eabhal said:

    MaxPB said:

    Eabhal said:

    MaxPB said:

    Scott_xP said:

    MaxPB said:

    This political assassination seems really odd at first glance. Very sad that America is fracturing so badly and yet it looks like it was friendly fire? At least judging by the independent sources rather than mainstream ones who are out there pushing a clear agenda.

    No

    This guy was not a friend of Democratic politicians
    He wasn't the friend of these specific ones who voted to rescind illegal immigrant rights. He's targeted the "traitors" who voted with the republicans. In a few days once the fog has cleared we'll know for sure though. I don't trust any mainstream source on this though, they're all so desperate to push their pet agendas.
    And you aren't?! "the left eating itself alive"
    Political appointee of Democratic governors, why would they appoint a MAGA person?
    Not a clue. Maybe back in 2019 the guy hadn't been radicalised? Perhaps Walz just appointed the best person for the job, or continued with the same guy for the incredibly important role Business Member of the
    Governor's Workforce Development Board
    ?

    Don't come on here pontificating about about pet agendas while pushing your own. Or at least do a better job of disguising it.
    pretty thin gruel max
  • MattWMattW Posts: 27,775
    edited June 14
    A report on the No King protests. TBF it is a Trumo-skeptical source.

    It's fascinating just how frightened the big MAGA Men are with their guns, their police dressed up like Robocop, and their performative threats.

    In several places they explicitly warn than vehicles surrounded by in crowds are cleared to behave like our Liverpool killer. They are absolutely terrified - just like Trump.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5pxOGxHpkg
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,842
    This is just sad. And hilarious

    @SegravesNBC4

    The #Army250 parade starting 30 minutes early due to incoming weather. Crowd nowhere near the 200,000 expected.
    @nbcwashington

    https://x.com/SegravesNBC4/status/1934003950811824591
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 32,345
    MaxPB said:

    Eabhal said:

    MaxPB said:

    Scott_xP said:

    MaxPB said:

    This political assassination seems really odd at first glance. Very sad that America is fracturing so badly and yet it looks like it was friendly fire? At least judging by the independent sources rather than mainstream ones who are out there pushing a clear agenda.

    No

    This guy was not a friend of Democratic politicians
    He wasn't the friend of these specific ones who voted to rescind illegal immigrant rights. He's targeted the "traitors" who voted with the republicans. In a few days once the fog has cleared we'll know for sure though. I don't trust any mainstream source on this though, they're all so desperate to push their pet agendas.
    And you aren't?! "the left eating itself alive"
    Political appointee of Democratic governors, why would they appoint a MAGA person?
    Oh Max. You are ignoring all the evidence and going full on New York Post. Surely you are smarter than this.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,842

    MaxPB said:

    Eabhal said:

    MaxPB said:

    Scott_xP said:

    MaxPB said:

    This political assassination seems really odd at first glance. Very sad that America is fracturing so badly and yet it looks like it was friendly fire? At least judging by the independent sources rather than mainstream ones who are out there pushing a clear agenda.

    No

    This guy was not a friend of Democratic politicians
    He wasn't the friend of these specific ones who voted to rescind illegal immigrant rights. He's targeted the "traitors" who voted with the republicans. In a few days once the fog has cleared we'll know for sure though. I don't trust any mainstream source on this though, they're all so desperate to push their pet agendas.
    And you aren't?! "the left eating itself alive"
    Political appointee of Democratic governors, why would they appoint a MAGA person?
    Oh Max. You are ignoring all the evidence and going full on New York Post. Surely you are smarter than this.
    Independent source suggest otherwise
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,270
    Scott_xP said:

    This is just sad. And hilarious

    @SegravesNBC4

    The #Army250 parade starting 30 minutes early due to incoming weather. Crowd nowhere near the 200,000 expected.
    @nbcwashington

    https://x.com/SegravesNBC4/status/1934003950811824591

    Looks more like 2,000

  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 30,425
    edited June 14
    Catching up with the World Cup. Wales smashed aside a Philippines team who were great in the group stage. Scotland demolished by the Dutch. And team MBE smashed by Germany.

    Great tournament! Edit - and great to see Paul Lim still playing for Singapore. Aged 71
  • Jim_MillerJim_Miller Posts: 3,348
    The suspect in the Minnesota political killings reminds me -- in some ways -- of Charles J. Guiteau, who assassinated President Garfield. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_J._Guiteau
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 30,157

    The suspect in the Minnesota political killings reminds me -- in some ways -- of Charles J. Guiteau, who assassinated President Garfield. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_J._Guiteau

    That's a quality PB analogy. Respect.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 24,836
    Horribly, horribly accurate satire on the recent Dr Who finale

    Doctor Who - "It Died of Cringe" - BBC Dead Ringers Sketch 2025 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0beJsOvRZX0
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 78,244
    Pharma companies aren't well enough organised to run conspiracies, as some here seem to believe.

    Someone at Novo Nordisk failed to pay a $450 maintenance fee, which would have kept its patent on Ozempic in force for another two years...

    A very expensive mistake!

    https://x.com/calebwatney/status/1933916171868225559
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 32,345
    ...
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 84,479
    Nigelb said:

    Pharma companies aren't well enough organised to run conspiracies, as some here seem to believe.

    Someone at Novo Nordisk failed to pay a $450 maintenance fee, which would have kept its patent on Ozempic in force for another two years...

    A very expensive mistake!

    https://x.com/calebwatney/status/1933916171868225559

    Former employee at Novo Nordisk...
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 78,244
    This doesn't suggest the current Sec Def gives a damn about Europe.

    Our Secretary of Defense does not know about the Suwalki Gap.
    SecDef Hegseth also doesn't know Kaliningrad.

    https://x.com/igorsushko/status/1933972818070536691
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 35,604
    dixiedean said:

    Can I just say, with all the miserable c**p in the world, it has been fantastic on here tonight.
    Even the disagreements have been friendly.
    We've had. The Cyclefree sickness and a tsunami of love.
    Big G banned than returning unannounced like a WWE wrestler wielding a chair.
    Moon as surreal as ever with the PB toilets. If anyone snores it has to be isam (sorry)
    Amongst others.
    No one's mentioned a putative race war either.
    Love you guys. You're funny.

    Am I allowed to ask why Big G was banned?
  • theProletheProle Posts: 1,379
    Andy_JS said:

    dixiedean said:

    Can I just say, with all the miserable c**p in the world, it has been fantastic on here tonight.
    Even the disagreements have been friendly.
    We've had. The Cyclefree sickness and a tsunami of love.
    Big G banned than returning unannounced like a WWE wrestler wielding a chair.
    Moon as surreal as ever with the PB toilets. If anyone snores it has to be isam (sorry)
    Amongst others.
    No one's mentioned a putative race war either.
    Love you guys. You're funny.

    Am I allowed to ask why Big G was banned?
    Discussion of screaming u-turn of the day from our PM.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 19,323
    Andy_JS said:

    dixiedean said:

    Can I just say, with all the miserable c**p in the world, it has been fantastic on here tonight.
    Even the disagreements have been friendly.
    We've had. The Cyclefree sickness and a tsunami of love.
    Big G banned than returning unannounced like a WWE wrestler wielding a chair.
    Moon as surreal as ever with the PB toilets. If anyone snores it has to be isam (sorry)
    Amongst others.
    No one's mentioned a putative race war either.
    Love you guys. You're funny.

    Am I allowed to ask why Big G was banned?
    Quoted the Prime Minister who mentioned a verboten subject.
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 14,533

    Omnium said:

    Why has the Big G got the ban hammer?

    I realised he was nothing but trouble from the start. A complete wrong un 😇
    Too Big, Too Welsh, Too G!
    All we need is Sunil banned too, and we will know Dura Ace is holding the ban hammer tonight, for the long needed weeding out of those not made of the right stuff.
    I have always liked Big G and have no fucking idea who Sunil is. Are they the graphs arsehole?

    There are plenty I would ban, were it within my gift, just for being boring and repetitious.
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